From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Sunday, 23 Mar 1997 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 14:22:52 EST Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Sunday, 23 Mar 1997 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: Where's Mosh??? Trouble in Somms Stop The Bashing Mikey T. and the Whiners. . . arguements are a waste of time Re: this whole bootleg and trading argument thing Hmmmmm.... your ice cream's dirty matt drumming for Prodigy?? the DOTU vinyl singles random stuff ------------------------------------------------------------ From: JAMES COLES <808state@pixi.com> Subject: Where's Mosh??? Just wondering why I can't get to mosh's page. Do I have the wrong address? Mosh@fones.cals.lib.ar.us Every time I try It's busy.I really want the Hello were Soundgarden Video. Can anyone help me out on this? Thanks.....:] Nancy ------------------------------ From: mark filleman Subject: Trouble in Somms I've been reading the Somms list for close to a year & subscribed and began posting on it myself a few months ago. Up until recently, it has always been consistently informative, entertaining, & funny. But lately, it's been like a war zone. Obviously with such a varied group of individuals there will be many different opinions concerning each list's topics, but why this sudden nasty turn in people's responses ? We're all entitled to our own opinions and we all have the right to disagree with each other, but can't we be a little bit more civil about it ? After all, we all agree on at least one thing: a mutual love of Soundgarden, that's what brings people to this list in the first place. I don't know the average age of people who subscribe, (I'm 27 ), but I'm guessing the majority are adults. This is'nt meant as an insult, but I think it's time we all started acting like grown ups and get back to what really matters-intelligent conversations about Soundgarden. You can blast me privately at my e-mail address or publicly on the list. I'm fully expecting it. Later, Kristen. ------------------------------ From: "Paul Galis" Subject: Stop The Bashing Man, that last digest I got was pretty much worthless. If you have a bug up your ass about someone, how about trying private e-mail. I can't see the point in wasting band width for trivial debates on Steves' video. I have been taping concerts for almost ten years now and believe strongly in preserving a live concert event for everyone to hear. I choose not to sell, but if someone wants to, let em do so. I personally think it is not cool to profit from something like this, but that's my own view point on the issue. let's get back to some cool SG discussion!!!! "Life without music would be a mistake" - -NIETZCHE- ------------------------------ From: "Jamie C." Subject: Mikey T. and the Whiners. . . i'm sorry, i couldn't help but wonder if mike's real last name isn't really apple. . . i think this guy set a record for the amount of "fuck's" in one post. okay, i don't want to bash him anymore. here's th sg content. - -i think bootlegs suck, unless the band openly states that they support these types of recordings (ie:Pearl Jam). - -however, i do believe that most bootleggers charge inordinate amounts of money for low-quality pieces of junk (at least here in canada, that is), so i'll stick with what i have for now. - -please don't reply to me telling me about all the great people you know who can get great recordings, because i don't care. i'm not here to be awe-inspired by other list members' connections or their own talents. thank you. - -JAmiE C. - ------------------------------------------------------- ********* ----------------JAmiE C.--------------- * * ----------------------------------------- * O O O * "two of us, that's dangerous" * * (BC) * +++++++ * ----------------------------------------- * * acoustic sounds...... ********* ****** MoNaBoNe-J ****** jcare@callisto.uwinnipeg.ca - ------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: spierce@mpls.k12.mn.us (Sandy Pierce) Subject: arguements are a waste of time isn't this a bit hypocritical? >ass *anything*. keep your private battles private. if you weren't so damn >greedy (which is obvious from what you say and the tone of your posts), he >might have written you. personally, i can't be bothered trading with the >greedy types who email me constantly, because they are always trouble in the >end. case in point. and then... >then do it in private email to carol. why post private email to a mailing >list? this just proves what a dumbass you are. all of this could've easily been said off of the list, as you say it should be. these things don't concern everyone. i just found this quite interesting. amanda oh yeah, there's a matt cameron look-alike at my health club. i stare at him all the time because it is such a close resemblance. ------------------------------ From: Larry Grover Subject: Re: this whole bootleg and trading argument thing Children, children! Now let's all just take a deep breath, go sit in the sun for a few minutes and look at the daffodils or something. This is not the appropriate place to question the level of another subscriber's intelligence, substance abuse, or whatever (though I suggest that anyone who can't tell the difference between even a second and third generation videotape should see an eye doctor). Yes, the bootlegging issue is very complex, considering the moral and legal aspects, and needs to be discussed, but I think we've heard all the pros and cons by now. I'm surprised someone hasn't dragged in the topic of buying and selling promos. (Oh, God, I suppose I should have kept my mouth shut). Anyway, God gave us each free will and a conscience. Use them wisely. I'll tell you what happened recently in my town. We had a record store owner here who set up an entire (and quite flashy) aisle of bootleg cd's at $45 a pop. (No, he didn't have any SG, but he had lots of PJ). Well, someone got pissed off and called the cops. This guy (who apparently got into trouble over some other scam in another state) is now in a shitload of trouble. They raided his place and confiscated thousands of dollars worth of bootlegs. He's still in business for the time being, as he hasn't gone to trial yet, but he faces a possible grand jury. His store is clean as a whistle now, in that respect, and people who know what he's been up to (other nastiness I won't get into here besides the bootlegging) won't give him the time of day, let alone any business. Other stores now are wary of carrying anything of questionable origin. It has had an impact in this immediate area, at least. Jen Grover ------------------------------ From: CL Miller Subject: Hmmmmm.... An interesting and perplexing (maybe not) question... With all of the talk surrounding bootlegs and taping trees, what about images? What are the specifics on downloaded images? Is it illegal to save them to your drive? The reason I'm asking is that I wanted to download some images and print them out on T-shirt transfer paper to make a shirt. Whaddya say? Thanks Chris - -- Thank you for allowing me to babble incessantly! Check out my store's homepage! http://www.MovieStop.com My favorite quote of the week: "Everything has been thought of before: the challenge is to think of it again." ~~ J. W. Goeth ------------------------------ From: Vince Varkey Subject: your ice cream's dirty To anyone who hasn't seen this, there is a great and informative article on Devilhead on ATN. You can access this through Seth's site. Here is the url: http://www.addict.com/issues/2.08/html/hifi/Features/Devilhead/index.html - -vince ------------------------------ From: "ANDRI NADZRI" Subject: matt drumming for Prodigy?? Hi SOMMSters.. Did anyone catch MTV News recently??Kurt Loder mentioned that Matt Cameron from Soundgarden will be working on Prodigy's new album? any info on this?? to Niki and John... thanx for taking the pain of typing the tabs for BHS..i really appreciate what u did guys...thanx again..:))..tryin for months to play BHS in a solo mode...(since i cant afford to buy a electric guitar yet..workin on that:)) later..:)) Andri "Head down..before you drown" - --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: endless_nameless@prodigy.com (GRRL NIKI FREER) Subject: the DOTU vinyl singles hey sommsters, just thought i'd throw in some SG related talk for this days digest readers... = ) the singles issued on vinyl for DOTU (pn, bimh, butow) i now own two of them, could have owned all. but, to you who own the PN red vinyl... does yours look kinda funky too? cause i had the chance to buy both this and BIMH (which i did purchase) but the PN just looked all sorts of scratched and messed up. i made the guy play it, and he played side A fully and then only gave me the last, oh 40-60 seconds of Jerry Garcia, and it just made me wonder if it was really messed up. hold it up to the light and it's kinda marble-ly looking, but even when you slide you finger across you can't feel anything. i was so confused and angry cause it was #1053 or 5000 and i really wanted it, it was the only one. i was just wondering if any other SOMMSter had this problem??? = ) probably not, right? = ) oh, the BIMH has bimh and Karaoke on the B side. really pretty. i think the BIMH single far and away had the best artwork of any of their singles ever. it was just a very beautiful job done by them. it was (for those who don't know) white with silvery marbling. very nice. #1236 of 5000, if i remember right. mind riot (rambling endlessly, i know, sorry!) ____ we see you cry turn your head then we slap your face we see you try see you fail some things never change... ------------------------------ From: #1 Brat Subject: random stuff hey all. sorry, i know most of the stuff i'm responding to is about a week old. . i'm finally catching up on everything i missed. >i have no idea what chris is driving now but a little bird told me >that way back when he was really big on saving the planet he >didn't drive anything but rode around on a bike... i was just wondering why you said "way back when". don't you think he still cares and is involved in efforts to save the environment? i know that Sg contributed to that Surfrider foundation benefit/compilation album a while back... and you can tell by many of his lyrics that the state of this planet is still very = much a concern to him. i was wondering if anyone out there knows what environmental, etc. causes Sg is currently involved in... and if anyone out there thinks that entertainers, etc. who are at the very least fairly affluent have a responsibility to contribute to those sorts of causes? i think that if they're good people, they would just naturally want to. >although i am not an expert in egyptial culture and society i feel >that the heavy metal fans' basic human rights have been violated... of course their rights have been violated. and i thought your idea about writing to the egyptian gov't was very interesting (and noble)... and if anyone out there has given this any thought or plans to go through w/ it, mail me. but from what i know, egypt's gov't is a fairly progressive and tolerant one, at least compared many other arab countries. i've got distant relatives who live in syria, which is right now under extremely authoritarian rule. the situation in egypt pales in comparison to what syrians have to go through. all i can think of regarding what happened in egypt is that this formerly= relatively low-key fundamentalist group has got to the point where it = has a lot of influence over the gov't and police. like i said - if anyone= out there knows more about this, mail me. anyway, it's an absolute disgrace what happened to those poor people, and something should definately be done to help them. as far as the whole "pop media" issue goes - who cares? the media doesn't matter, the trendy bandwagon-ers don't matter. it's people like us - the true fans - who *do* matter... and the bands that we love know that, and respect us for it i'm sure. and a while back people were talking about how it's the music - not the band members' personal lives - that's most important. and i agree completely... but still, there's nothing wrong w/ being curious about the life of someone that you love and admire - it's just natural. there's a big difference between wanting to know & wondering, and invading someone's privacy or stalking. more later... ~Lorraine "Freedom is having the freedom to say, 'two plus two equals four.'" ~George Orwell "so i drink in the shadows of an evening sky....." ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 3 Issue 74] ***************************************