From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Tuesday, 18 Mar 1997 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 01:03:59 EST Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Tuesday, 18 Mar 1997 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: festival hall concert Re: The Soundgarden Bootleg Trading Post Re: festival hall concert SG fans in Northeast OH propisition soundgarden rules Zildjian Ad -- With Mattster! Hype! vinyl/Deep 6/SG tree Live concerts re: chris, eddie, and rolling stone RE: soundgarden rules Re: live 4th of July Re: soundgarden rules stole a thousand beggar's chains.. Re: The Soundgarden Bootleg Trading Post Re: The Soundgarden Bootleg Trading Post Re: soundgarden rules Re: 90 SU tour or DOTU tour Re: The Soundgarden Bootleg Trading Post Re: soundgarden rules Sorry y'all, THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE!!!!!!!!!! Re: The Soundgarden Bootleg Trading Post Re: soundgarden rules just nod if you can "read" me Re: live 4th of July say hello 2 heaven/andy wood Re: The Kaytrang Bootleg Trading Post comin' up on your right... Rhinosaur like feathers in sand... Recovery on webpage ------------------------------------------------------------ From: Rosario Fusca Subject: festival hall concert mitty-i loved those bands too, my only complaint is that you am i played a short set at the BDO, less than they were listed as. stephen-i totally agree they were both awesome. i love both of them. did you go to gaslight the day before the BDO i think it was, you am i were there, i missed it. nicky-i mostly hung around the middle of the crowd with my friend. it was way too squashy to go near the front cause of the air temp in there, they must have no air vents. i wish i was kim, you could see his fan on the side of the stage lucky thing! i wanted them to play 4th of july too but it was a thrill to hear them play boot camp though, i really love that song. im embarrassed to say though that until the chorus in helter skelter i didnt have a clue what they were playing. i didnt know who the first band was, ive heard one of their songs on JJJ but i didnt know who they were cause they werent listed on my ticket. could you hear them practising while waiting for the doors to open, i could, you could hear the guitars and chris warming up his voice. i had to go just before they came out too, my dad was like yours. ruth ------------------------------ From: "Steven Russell Jr." Subject: Re: The Soundgarden Bootleg Trading Post Hey List! Happy St. Patricks Day! To help jumpstart Jason's Trading Post, which is a totally cool idea :-) I can donate any of my video's or audio's to start a Tree. Any volunteers to help this new page (concept) out? I will dub a copy of something (the group decides)...but after that...It's up to the existing traders to organize everything :-) This offer is good (on my end) until this Saturday...then I go back to my studies. Is there anyone with any initiative on this mailing list? We will find out... The most important thing to remember when trading boots is to have patience. Remember the person on the other end of the trade prolly has a million other things to do more important than dubbing a cassette or video tape. If you have patience you will eventually be rewarded...if you don't...may you rot in fucking hell you worthless pieces of shit...you know who you are. Have a nice day...please drive thru :-) At 04:19 PM 03/16/97 -0800, you wrote: >The Soundgarden Bootleg Trading Post is now up and running. Please swing >by and have a look. There is a link on the page if you want to be added to >the page as a trader. The URL is: > >http://members.tripod.com/~Sgrdn/index.html steve - - Heavy Rotation: An amazing collection of Swervedriver b-sides tree'd from the Swerve mailing list, Tricky, U2 - "Mofo", Chemical Brothers, Pavement, the new Helmet is released tomorrow...BUY IT! :-) If you find the vinyl...email me ;-) ------------------------------ From: KSingh2349@aol.com Subject: Re: festival hall concert In a message dated 97-03-17 01:57:42 EST, you write: << i wanted them to play 4th of july too >> to all of those (who like me are completely extatic about 4th of july)...here's the reason why they cant really play it.....see..if you listen carefully to the song on the su cd....you'll hear that cornell's voice has been double recorded....so if they sing it live...it just doesn sound the same....cuz obviouly cornell cant sing both parts of the song at the same time xo ------------------------------ From: DunWei@aol.com Subject: SG fans in Northeast OH Deb, Taylor: I'm a SG fan from Cleveland! I think that makes, what, 3 or 4 of us in the NE OH/NW PA region? I don't get it...oh well, like Taylor said, that just makes us more dedicated. SG forever! Dun-Wei ------------------------------ From: KENNY BECKWITH <"beckwith@gte.net"@gte.net> Subject: propisition Would any generous person be willing to tape Hello We Are Soundgarden for me in exchange for a copy of the Push cd? Please take pity on me. I don't have the $15 or $30 bucks that I have seen it offered for, so I offer the only thing I can. A recording of Push. It is a concert in Oslo, Norway from 94. Kick ass if I may say so myself. Please I beg you guys. And if anyone else out there in Soundgarden land would like to trade some boots or videos for Push and Fortissimo, Let me know. beckwith@gte.net Lisa B Lisa B ------------------------------ From: frbpollock@schoollink.com (Billy Pollock) Subject: soundgarden rules HELLO PEOPLE VEDDER HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH HUNGER STRIKE. CHRIS IS TEMPLE OF THE DOGG WITH EXCEPTION OF TWO SONGS. WHICH HE WROTE THE LYRICS FOR. SO LEAVE VEDDER OUT OF TEMPLE HE DID NOTHING ON IT. ------------------------------ From: Wednesdayj@aol.com Subject: Zildjian Ad -- With Mattster! Hey... Just thought some of you might be interested in this. In the new issue of Hit Parader, there's an ad for Zildjian, and who is on it, but our very own Matt Cameron! Here's what it says: White Zombie's John Tempesta on Matt Cameron: "Matt's one of my favorite players. What I love about him is his capacity to play with such force and feeling, he's such a loose player, with the ability to come at you from nowhere with incredible odd-time stuff. He's like the Steve Gadd of heavy rock." Matt Cameron on Zildjian: "I want cymbals that have dynamics and volume that will be heard over screaming guitars and pounding bass. Z Custom Crashes really project, they have awesome tone, and sustain just enough... they're so clean sounding, so crisp." "My A Medium Ride is my favorite. It has a very distinct ping, and it washes nicely with my crashes. My Hats are awesome too, a K top and an A New Beat bottom." And there's a really great pic of Matt doin' his thing. :) And in this issue, there's also a SG poster, of the band posing behind a sleeping (?) dog. Ok, I'll stop my rambling now. ~ Wednesday ~ Shadow face Blowing smoke and talking wind I lost my grip Fell to far to start again... ~ Chris Cornell ------------------------------ From: endless_nameless@prodigy.com (GRRL NIKI FREER) Subject: Hype! vinyl/Deep 6/SG tree hello somms, since i've been quite for a while, i figured i'd speak up and let you guys know to go out and buy the Kype! vinyl 7" set. it's so nifty! there's 4 vinyls...purple, seafoam green, silver, and light blue, all of which are swirly with white color. very pretty to look at. SG's nothing to say is on the first one as the b- side of them and the u-men's "dig it a hole." and the entire hype! soundtrack is amazing except, i don't care much for Pigeonhead...sorry guys! and i wonder why Skin Yard isn't on the soundtrack...? oh, and in the box with the vinyls is the coolest b-n- w poster, which folds out pretty nice sized. it's got these photos of each band on the vinyl set and their names and track name, ect. and for the SG one, it's got this adorable shot of chris and kimmy hugging, kim's holding chris up in the air it looks like. (but maybe that's cause chris is a little taller...) so cute! = ) oh- another question- on the Deep SIx comp...is matt with SY or SG? i should probably just read all the credit things, but you guys are much more helpful most of the time. and to the guy who was getting me the Loud Love 7"--- do you have it yet? when do you want me to pay you? (sorry sommsters, i lost his addy) as for the SG trading tree Steven suggested, that's a great idea. now- what does everyone want him to copy? i'd personally kill for a copy of the Lingiere Club gig video..... but i can't trade vid boots, only audio... hmmm, well, that about does it for me today... mind riot ____ we see you cry turn your head then we slap your face we see you try see you fail some things never change... ------------------------------ From: e9328995@student.uq.edu.au (John Grieves) Subject: Live concerts At 09:39 17/03/97 -0500, KSingh2349@aol.com wrote: >to all of those (who like me are completely extatic about 4th of >july)...here's the reason why they cant really play it.....see..if you listen >carefully to the song on the su cd....you'll hear that cornell's voice has >been double recorded....so if they sing it live...it just doesn sound the >same....cuz obviouly cornell cant sing both parts of the song at the same >time >xo > Yeah, good point. However, if this was the case, Smashing Pumpkins, who have been known to use 50+ guitar tracks on a single song (I can't remember which one off Mellon Collie & The Infinite Sadness), would be in dire straights for live gigs. Even Alice In Chains - Jerry Cantrell typically records three guitar tracks for each song, lead panned to the centre and two rhythm tracks panned to either of the left and right channels... That's the whole point of live gigs - to see how they can pull of songs live, as well as to see the people their in person, just metres away. The impracticality of swapping from mandolin/mandola to guitar on stage didn't stop Soundgarden playing Ty Cobb at both the Big Day Out and Festival Hall gigs here in Brisbane - it was just arranged for guitar or omitted. Different sound? Absolutely! Sounds brilliant? You betcha... At any rate, songs are usually sung differently live. Many vocalists record to CD at their "best", hitting high in their vocal range, but couldn't sustain such strain on the voice for an entire show, and so take lower notes into the singing. Some even tune down guitars just to help the vocalist along (at least, that was the explanation the singer of the band I was in a few years back gave for our guitar tunings...) Not a flame, just a different perspective... Jackhammer. PS: Nice to be back from the cold. Many, many thanks to Carolyn for keeping me sane over my Christmas in the coalfields. PSS: Blind Dog - I am envious of your effort at the Soundgarden gig here at Festival Hall! And how on earth did you make your way to the very front? The pressure was intense down there, and as hard as I was resisting (I was at stage right, right on security barrier, right in front of Kim Thayil - good place to be) I was still forced two feet to my left through the show... ------------------------------ From: Trung Tran Subject: re: chris, eddie, and rolling stone Geoff Kleemola wrote: > Excuse my tone for a second, but how the fuck do you know RS presented > only "facts"? Oh, yeah lemme guess...you and vedder are pals right? Why don't you fucking chill your ass out for a sec. All I know is that after I read the article, it made me think about the implications *if* it were true. So is it? Geoff, you don't know if it is true or not. None of us do. Don't sit here and just assume its not. You don't know him. Don't put him on an imaginary pedestal where he can do no wrong. You actually make a good point in saying that Chris probably did shake his head in disgust, knowing that some of the stuff was untrue. But I severely doubt that the entire article was written out of some imagined spite for Vedder. There is some truth there I believe. Don't summarily dismiss it. > Or are you just hoping it's all true because you dislike EV? Quite the contrary Geoff. I respect him greatly. But I am also wise enough to know that sometimes our heroes aren't humanitarians outside of the spotlight (including Chris) . Reread the article. I fail to understand why you got so bent out of shape about this? Does the *possible* validity of the article disturb you that much? It shouldn't. I respect him no matter what RS says. - -Trung ------------------------------ From: "Lane, Karen" Subject: RE: soundgarden rules Then who was that guy who looked and sounded exactly like Eddie Vedder singing backup on Hunger Strike. Must be one of those early clones. - ---------- From: frbpollock@schoollink.com[SMTP:frbpollock@schoollink.com] Sent: Monday, March 17, 1997 2:34 PM To: somms@MIT.EDU Subject: soundgarden rules HELLO PEOPLE VEDDER HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH HUNGER STRIKE. CHRIS IS TEMPLE OF THE DOGG WITH EXCEPTION OF TWO SONGS. WHICH HE WROTE THE LYRICS FOR. SO LEAVE VEDDER OUT OF TEMPLE HE DID NOTHING ON IT. ------------------------------ From: me Subject: Re: live 4th of July KSingh2349@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 97-03-17 01:57:42 EST, you write: > > << i wanted them to play 4th of july too >> > > to all of those (who like me are completely extatic about 4th of > july)...here's the reason why they cant really play it.....see..if you listen > carefully to the song on the su cd....you'll hear that cornell's voice has > been double recorded....so if they sing it live...it just doesn sound the > same....cuz obviouly cornell cant sing both parts of the song at the same > time > xo If you listen closely to slave's n' bulldozers there's some double tracking going on in that song also. But they manage to play that live too. I'm sure that they have played 4th of July live somewhere, why would they have writtent that song if they were to never play it live? Didnt they play it at the Showbox gig, or at Lolla 96? I see no reason that they cant play it live? U2 plays all of there songs live, and they use so much guitar layering its insane. i see no reasonwhy they cant play it live. Dave ------------------------------ From: Betty Anne Redson Subject: Re: soundgarden rules Billy Pollock wrote: > > HELLO PEOPLE VEDDER HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH HUNGER STRIKE. CHRIS IS TEMPLE OF > THE DOGG WITH EXCEPTION OF TWO SONGS. WHICH HE WROTE THE LYRICS FOR. SO > LEAVE VEDDER OUT OF TEMPLE HE DID NOTHING ON IT. You're right about Chris writing the lyrics, but that doesn't mean Eddie had nothing to do with it. He sang on the album, what are you talking about leaving Vedder out of it? He had something to do with it, maybe not much, but something - - Marie ------------------------------ From: Vince Varkey Subject: stole a thousand beggar's chains.. I got this cool SG video boot the other day. It was from their Superunknown tour of 1994. It was really neat to see them play songs that they don't play now, like Mailman, Head Down, and Like Suicide. It was also cool to see Chris be able to hit every note, like it was nothing, which was so unlike many of the DOTU shows. I envy anyone who went to see them in 1994. So my question is this: Do you all think that SG played better on their Superunknown tour or their Down on the Upside 1996 tour? Not an easy question but I would love to see what you all think. How *do* they compare to tours they have had in the past? - -vince ------------------------------ From: Trung Tran Subject: Re: The Soundgarden Bootleg Trading Post > Bootlegs are not a substitute for authorized releases, and should > never be considered as such. If you've got Fresh Deadly Rarities or > something like that, you should be prepared to buy an authorized > release that includes each of the songs as soon as you can find it. > > seth Let's see here. I bought Fresh Deadly Rarities for the sole reason that it had many songs that I simply didn't have. So now you are telling me that the next time I go into the record store, and if I see authorized SG singles with the same b-sides that are on FDR (for example) that I should be prepared to buy them? Uh no. This is hard to explain, seeing as the whole bootleg issue is pretty complicated, with a side to every story. When I got FDR I didn't feel guilty. I am a fan of the band and I needed those songs and it was much cheaper to just get the whole CD than getting a bunch of meaningless singles. I just fail to see the logic in getting all the authorized releases when you all ready have FDR, unless you felt somehow gulity about it..about the band not getting a dime off of a boot. But only a fan would get a bootleg, and they are virtually guaranteed of getting my 15 bucks for their future albums so I feel the trade-off is fair. - -Trung ------------------------------ From: Geoff Subject: Re: The Soundgarden Bootleg Trading Post Trung Tran wrote: > Let's see here. I bought Fresh Deadly Rarities for the sole reason that > it had many songs that I simply didn't have. So now you are telling me > that the next time I go into the record store, and if I see authorized SG > singles with the same b-sides that are on FDR (for example) that I should > be prepared to buy them? Uh no. This is hard to explain, seeing as the > whole bootleg issue is pretty complicated, with a side to every story. > When I got FDR I didn't feel guilty. I am a fan of the band and I needed > those songs and it was much cheaper to just get the whole CD than getting > a bunch of meaningless singles. I just fail to see the logic in getting > all the authorized releases when you all ready have FDR, unless you felt Yes you do appear to fail to see the logic. The point is that you are ripping off the band, and Seth was pointing out that he does not condone it. > somehow gulity about it..about the band not getting a dime off of a boot. > But only a fan would get a bootleg, and they are virtually guaranteed of Wrong! The true fans do *not* rip off the band, but spend what they can on authorized releases. This does not mean that if you can't afford to spend loads of cash on singles that you are not a true fan, but that true fans do not buy boots ahead of authorized releases, just to save a few bucks. > getting my 15 bucks for their future albums so I feel the trade-off is fair. > > -Trung You can rationalize it any way you want. Tell yourself the fucking moon-men are making you buy bootlegs. That doesn't change the fact that you are short-changing soundgarden. Geoff ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: Re: soundgarden rules On Mon, 17 Mar 1997, Billy Pollock wrote: > HELLO PEOPLE VEDDER HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH HUNGER STRIKE. CHRIS IS TEMPLE OF > THE DOGG WITH EXCEPTION OF TWO SONGS. WHICH HE WROTE THE LYRICS FOR. SO > LEAVE VEDDER OUT OF TEMPLE HE DID NOTHING ON IT. oh really? do you actually own this album? you must have never heard it, because if you HAD, you wouldn't make such a blatantly ignorant statement. and i suppose "times of trouble" had nothing to do with eddie, either? go spend some time on seth's page and educate yourself... - --caryn ...wondering if snoop doggy dogg's next album will be called "temple of the dogg" <---claiming no authorship to that one, either ;-> ------------------------------ From: gwendoubt@juno.com (Kathy L Roller) DOes anyonew know how to get backstage passes to any concert (mainly Sound Garden) around Maryland? I really want to know. Thanks Email me at Gwendoubt@juno.com ------------------------------ From: Sndgdnfan@aol.com Subject: Re: 90 Does anyone know how I can get this clothing? My friends and I have been looking for a '90' shirt for years, every since we saw Motorvision. My friend also saw someone at Lollapalooza in NYC that was wearing a 90 shirt. ------------------------------ From: Ali@Worldnet.att.net Subject: SU tour or DOTU tour Vince Varkey wrote: > > I got this cool SG video boot the other day. It was from their Superunknown > tour of 1994. It was really neat to see them play songs that they don't > play now, like Mailman, Head Down, and Like Suicide. It was also cool to see > Chris be able to hit every note, like it was nothing, which was so unlike many > of the DOTU shows. I envy anyone who went to see them in 1994. So my > question is this: > > Do you all think that SG played better on their Superunknown tour or their > Down on the Upside 1996 tour? > > Not an easy question but I would love to see what you all think. How *do* > they compare to tours they have had in the past? > > -vinceI saw them on both of those tours and to be quite honest with you, you cant compare the two. Both of the tours were outstanding. I tried to see them when they came to Wash, DC last fall but couldnt(no money)But did get to see them when they came to WV for Lolla96. The only problem I had with the Lolla tour was that they didnt play long enough for me. They were the main reason that I went to see L96. The other bands were just as outstanding but mostly it was for SG. I only wish that I could have seen them in their earlier shows. Dont be envious of anyone, just to see them at all on any tour is all you need. The cool thing is I was right in the very front (I'm not sure but I think I may have met Susan? Anyone have any ideas as to whether or not she may have been there, L96 in West Virginia), when Ben started telling someone off in the crowd. I must say the crowd was pretty rude at the concert, but what the hell I was there to SG. Has anyone seen any of their earlier shows (i.e. the 80's), and if so what was it like. ali? ------------------------------ From: Trung Tran Subject: Re: The Soundgarden Bootleg Trading Post On Mon, 17 Mar 1997, Geoff wrote: > Wrong! The true fans do *not* rip off the band, but spend what they can > on authorized releases. This does not mean that if you can't afford to > spend loads of cash on singles that you are not a true fan, but that > true fans do not buy boots ahead of authorized releases, just to save a > few bucks. Look I do see the logic. SG will never see the money that I spent on FDR. But I simply don't have the time or money to go searching around the city, getting singles after meaningless singles, just to feel "good" about myself Geoff. How dare you say that I am not a true fan. You have got a lot of nerve to make that kind of statement. Half this fucking list bought FDR. Why? Because they are SG fans and they wanted the fucking songs. Simple as that. This doesn't make me any less of a fan than you. Yeah I do realize that what I am doing is not technically right. But do you really think that Chris, when counting his millions or speeding in his Porshe, really cares whether or not I buy FDR? Give me a fucking break. I am the one buying his albums, etc. The only reason you adhere to this principle of not getting boots Geoff is so you can walk into the kitchen and tell Mommy that you did something good today. over and out. - -Trung ------------------------------ From: mshaw@lib.occ.cccd.edu (RoseeMisst) Subject: Re: soundgarden rules >On Mon, 17 Mar 1997, Billy Pollock wrote: > >> HELLO PEOPLE VEDDER HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH HUNGER STRIKE. CHRIS IS TEMPLE OF >> THE DOGG WITH EXCEPTION OF TWO SONGS. WHICH HE WROTE THE LYRICS FOR. SO >> LEAVE VEDDER OUT OF TEMPLE HE DID NOTHING ON IT. > >oh really? >do you actually own this album? you must have never heard it, because if >you HAD, you wouldn't make such a blatantly ignorant statement. > >and i suppose "times of trouble" had nothing to do with eddie, either? > > > >go spend some time on seth's page and educate yourself... > >--caryn >...wondering if snoop doggy dogg's next album will be called "temple of >the dogg" <---claiming no authorship to that one, either ;-> I see that Caryn noticed the "dogg" typo too ... but I was wondering about this statement today...does anyone know if Vedder even 'knew' Andrew Wood? I read that some members of SG and PJ did... @~^ RoseeMisst ^~@ ------------------------------ From: LoudLoveCC@aol.com Subject: Sorry y'all, THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE!!!!!!!!!! And now I chop off your head, and experience the quickening! Muah ah ah ahhhh!!! Now I have your power, and am even stronger than before!!!!!!! My name is Lissa Soundgarden Worshipper from the clan SOMMS. I am immortal, and have YET to see Soundgarden live... which I will never stop complaining about until it happens... and to stop all this nonsense... what I mean by there can be only one, is that only one of you can have this lovely copy of FORTISSIMO, and I've picked one from a hat.... and I HAVE A WINNER!!!!!!!!!!!! VELVTONGUE! COME ON DOWN! AND CLAIM YOUR PRIZE ON THE FORTISSIMO IS RIGHT! CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!!!! Velv... you know what to do.... write you me or whatever..... talk to you then! To everyone else! I'm sorry (honestly), but if I ever get anything else.... I'll offer it the same way! love, lissa =) ------------------------------ Subject: Re: The Soundgarden Bootleg Trading Post From: seth Sorry this is so long, folks. > Look I do see the logic. SG will never see the money that I spent on > FDR. That's not the whole truth. SG will never see any money from sales of FDR, but other people *will* see money from sales of FDR. So it's not that Mr. Cornell will not personally receive a check for your purchase, it's that someone else who did not write the songs, record them, or tour to support them *will*. If I wrote Toy Box and it was released as a b-side to a little-known single named Flower, and later discovered people were trading copies of it, I might think, "Wow, people dig what I'm doing, and even if they can't afford or find the single, at least my work is getting out there." But if I found out that someone was *selling* copies of Toy Box, I would be very upset, to say the least. I'll say it again: bootlegs are NOT a substitute for authorized releases. You owe it to yourself and to Soundgarden to purchase authorized releases when possible. The band works hard to bring you great music, and if pockets should be getting full as a result of that, they're the bands'. > Half this fucking list bought FDR. Why? > Because they are SG fans and they wanted the fucking songs. Simple as that. And I sincerely hope that given the chance, they will buy the original recordings of the songs. Another thing to consider is the setting in which these songs were intended to exist: b-sides are not just random selections from the band's collection. They are chosen for specific singles and if you don't listen to them in the right place, I don't think you're getting the full experience. The order of songs on an album is a key to the album's overall feel, and listening to songs out of context gives them totally different impact on the listener. Don't believe me? If you've listened to Badmotorfinger 700 times from beginning to end, go ahead and set the CD player to shuffle mode and try that. The same thing applies to singles. Toy Box the first track on a CD? I think not. Listen to any 2 singles that have the same song as a b-side, and you'll see that the b-side feels different. You lose the feel of it when you listen to 17 b-sides in a row without context. > But do you really think that > Chris, when counting his millions or speeding in his Porshe, really cares > whether or not I buy FDR? Give me a fucking break. I am the one buying > his albums, etc. I kind of addressed this above, but this is the same justification people use for not voting. "It's only one vote, it doesn't matter." There's been a document circulating the Net for as long as I've been on it that lists a tono of elections that were decided by one vote (and no, don't send it to the list, that's not the point). If you pass up something that Soundgarden worked their collective ass off to produce for you, the "fan," in favor of giving your money to a bootlegger, you've decided not cast your vote for Soundgarden. Whatever the hell that means. :) seth ------------------------------ From: Rita Bonofiglio Subject: Re: soundgarden rules On Mon, 17 Mar 1997, RoseeMisst wrote: > but I was wondering about this statement today...does anyone know if Vedder > even 'knew' Andrew Wood? I read that some members of SG and PJ did... > > > @~^ RoseeMisst ^~@ > > i read in some article eddie talking about some song that he never sung in public but it was just for andy wood and he would sing it one day... - -----rita b. ------------------------------ From: CL Miller Subject: just nod if you can "read" me hello out there in SG land. just wanted to see if everyone is still alive and kicking! i am having a hell of a time locating a somms disc for myself. i haven't checked Goldmine yet (as soon as i get to the local wannabe-mall, i'll pick it up). point is, does anyone on the list have an extra that they would like to sell? please lemme know! - -- Thank you for allowing me to babble incessantly! Check out my store's homepage! http://www.MovieStop.com Rolling Stone pictures of the week Dedicated to hootchies and "family" members everywhere! RS757 front cover "just do me" page 2 & 3 "can't be real" page 21 "surf's up!" page 34 "honey, i'm home!" page 55 "uhhhhhh........" God, I wish I was a photographer... Now if I only had more pictures of Chris Cornell... whaddya say Shroomy??? ------------------------------ From: endless_nameless@prodigy.com (GRRL NIKI FREER) Subject: Re: live 4th of July me wrote: >> I'm sure that they have played 4th of July live somewhere, >> the only show i'm aware of that this song was played at was the Showbox gig, according to caryn but i believe it was played at this show in seattle, but i'm not real sure how many other places were graced with this amazing song. mind riot ____ we see you cry turn your head then we slap your face we see you try see you fail some things never change... ------------------------------ From: endless_nameless@prodigy.com (GRRL NIKI FREER) Subject: say hello 2 heaven/andy wood okay, i forgot about this earlier, so i'll ask now. for those of you who own the mother love bone album 'thing' with both _shine_ and _apple_ on it, you'll note that there's a song andy wrote called "stargazer." well, as i was listening to "say hello 2 heaven" for the 800th time the other night, i read the lyrics sheet along with it and the line "poor stargazer/she's got no tears in her eyes" hit me. the song by andy is about a she, and this line from SH2H is also a 'she' line. <"is there a point here?" wonders SOMMSters galore.> yeah, i'm thinking, 'is this kind of a mention of andy himself in a song chris blatantly wrote about him, or is this just some kind of accident (lack of better word here) that coincidentally had a lot to do with andy's writings?' um...anyone who can make sense of that share yr opinion... = ) okay, no more mind riot posts today. mind riot ____ we see you cry turn your head then we slap your face we see you try see you fail some things never change... ------------------------------ From: KAISERVRBL@aol.com Subject: Re: The Kaytrang Bootleg Trading Post In a message dated 97-03-17 18:54:24 EST, kaytrang@utdallas.edu (Trung Tran) writes: << But do you really think that Chris, when counting his millions or speeding in his Porshe, really cares whether or not I buy FDR? Give me a fucking break. I am the one buying his albums, etc. The only reason you adhere to this principle of not getting boots Geoff is so you can walk into the kitchen and tell Mommy that you did something good today. >> Seth, You kicked him off once. Why do you keep letting him back? Geoff, ignore him he's an ass. Lance ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: comin' up on your right... On Tue, 18 Mar 1997, John Grieves wrote: > That's the whole point of live gigs - to see how they can pull of songs > live, as well as to see the people their in person, just metres away. The just out of interest, are there many soundgarden songs (other than b-sides) that *haven't* been performed live at some time? I realise that roughly half of dotu hasn't made it onto a set list, but I would argue that just about every song preceding that record has been played at one time or another . any thoughts? > PSS: Blind Dog - I am envious of your effort at the Soundgarden gig here at > Festival Hall! And how on earth did you make your way to the very front? The through sheer will, jackhammer :) ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide words by kim thayil ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Foxx Watkins Subject: Rhinosaur hey guys I'm new on the list but so far i'm am enjoying it a lot. I wanted of comment on soundgarden's release of Rhinosaur. My radio station that i listen to has been playing it a month now. It's a great song (warning what I'm about to say may be considered blasphhemy by some sommsters) but i believe that tighter and tighter could have did for DOTU what my wave did for superunknown. Now don't get me wrong but if you remember how the hoopla built up around black hole sun and then kinda died down after fell on black days but all off a sudden when my wave hit the airways it just totally put superunknown over the top. Even chris was quoted in saying in some magazinne that he would have like my wave to be the first single other than spoonman. Rhinosaur is a good song annd more commercial but i think tighter and tighter is as awesome and as an aspiring guitarist my self imagine the thrill i recieved when i finally learned to play tighter and tighter (okay i can't play all of the solo-yet). were as burden in my hand was the commercial spoonmanlike tighter and tighter would be along the same lines as the mystic Black Hole Sun intriging mailman/holy water. now i know that chris likes to reinvent himself and not conform to the controling media but i;m just offering my opinion and casting a vote for a kick ass song. if you have an opinion than respond. also for you guys that have not seen the soundgarden Launch cd-rom i'm hear to tell you it is awesome. It doesn't go into to much depth on SG but it does have like a six topic interview with actual video recordings with chhris and kim respondinng in real time to the questions. it also has a video (not the one on MTV) of pretty noose and it has the song Karaoke, a song that didn't make the final cut of DOTU. its about siix minutes long and maybe somewhat along the lines of she likes surprises. i bought the cd=rom for ten dollars in Blockbuster Music and got a bonus cd with 18 tracks on never before heard of bbands but these bands sound awesome. Possibly the next wave of alternative that can keep the shitty "ska" bands like no doubt from killinng us with no charm. I'm sure everything i just said has been made aware to you sommsters but i just wanted to make sure. If any one wants to order the back issue of the CD-rom of launch than just let me know and i will hook you up. Ta Ta Foxx ..."i never wanted to write these words down for you" denounce me or praise me but my three favorite songs of all time not just SG are (in no particluar order because i can't decide and haven't been able for almost a year) are Seasons, All Night Thing, and Like Suicide ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: like feathers in sand... On Tue, 18 Mar 1997, Foxx Watkins wrote: > hey guys I'm new on the list but so far i'm am enjoying it a lot. > I wanted of comment on soundgarden's release of Rhinosaur. My radio station > that i listen to has been playing it a month now. It's a great song > (warning what I'm about to say may be considered blasphhemy by some > sommsters) but i believe that tighter and tighter could have did for DOTU as much as I'd like to agree with you foxx ('t&t' is *way* cooler than 'rhinosaur'), I have my doubts that 'rhinosaur' is going to be the next single released from _dotu_. in fact, I don't think there will be any more singles taken from _dotu_ at all. we've had reports of radio stations saying "this is the hot new song from soundgarden!" in the past, but that doesn't mean that the song in question will actually be packaged and released in the stores. for example, jjj here in australia have been playing 'ty cobb' for a couple of months now, and I'm fairly certain that that little ditty isn't going to be the next single. more likely that it is a promo sent to various radio stations just to be played (or sell more albums), much like 'stinkfist' in tool's case. of course I could be wrong, but I think that the band are now just happy to be home and away from the record, hopefully thinking about the next one, due late this year... ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide words by kim thayil ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Wyn Subject: Recovery on webpage I was just having a look on seths page and their i see in the new damage section my name (very good feeling that is, I'm all a quiver{I'm not being sarcastic}). So for all you Aussies out there if your kicking your self for missing Recovery and didn't tape it (or the rest of the world who just had no chance of seeing it) a copy of the interview is up there. Although it is a poor substituted for having Matt Cameron's Face plastered across your TV and seeing bits of them at BDO. Bronwyn "Killing with Charm"~Rhinosaur. ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 3 Issue 69] ***************************************