From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Friday, 14 Mar 1997 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 02:02:54 EST Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Friday, 14 Mar 1997 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: #25...Molted Milk Live & Loud. Re: Goldmine Catalog Re: x-philes out there? Sg in the movies Re: vehicles Re: A Final Word on the Grammy's You and Brad & Soundgarden delayed reaction Here's Something To Think About!! :) chris vs anybody Say Anything... Re: Soundgarden Digest, Wednesday, 12 Mar 1997 Maestro! This just in. . . Re: chris vs anybody chris, eddie and rolling stone Re: chris, eddie and rolling stone Re: chris, eddie and rolling stone Re: chris, eddie and rolling stone kim and egyptian fans Lolla '97 Re: chris, eddie and rolling stone Re: chris vs anybody Re: CHRIS'S # inflatable soule Vehicles Re: chris, eddie and rolling stone concerts ------------------------------------------------------------ From: Eric Gardner Subject: #25...Molted Milk The video goes to Paul Synhavsky. Eric ------------------------------ From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_And=E9r?= Subject: Live & Loud. Does anyone know *exactly* when MTVeurope aired the SG Live & Loud? thanks, /martin. (please reply via private email...) ------------------------------ From: Mercyhurst Prep Library Subject: Re: Goldmine Catalog I've mentioned Goldmine quite often. It's a newspaper that runs classified ads as well as ads from people who sell stuff--you have to see it tio understand it, but it's called a collector's newspaper. I subscribe to it and will bring in my latest one to post an address or whatever. I don't recall if the have a web page or not! You don't order catalogs from Goldmine--it's aplace where people who collect advertize or where little businesses can advertize! At 01:59 PM 3/12/97 -0500, you wrote: >Could someone please tell me if Goldmine (?) has a website, or an address >where I could order a catalog? I think it was Caryn who was talking about >this... I ordered some SG stuff from Rockabilia, and they take six frigging >months to send your stuff... >:( So if anyone can help me out, thanks! :) > It would be *greatly* appreciated. > >~ Wednesday ~ > >Shower in the dark day >Clean sparks diving down >Cool in the waterway >Where the baptized drown... > ~ Chris Cornell > > > > > ------------------------------ From: Mercyhurst Prep Library Subject: Re: x-philes out there? Sg in the movies I've been an XFiles fan since the beginning! Yeah, the atmosphere would lend itself well to Sg doing something. I've noticed a few episodes that I'm sure were filmed near Seattle, and of course were labelled as other cities. How 'bout the one w/ Jim Rose in it? Lolla tie-in! ciao....deb > >At 04:02 PM 3/12/97 -0800, you wrote: >>hey. . . . >> >> >>i was wondering - are there any x-philes out there besides me? and if >>there are - wouldn't it be great if Sg contributed to the next X-Files >>soundtrack? (if there is another one, which there probably will be) >>i think the atmosphere on the X-Files and the atmosphere Sg create >>in their music would go perfectly together. i also think the themes in >>certain Sg songs and certain x-files would sorta go together. >> >>i wonder if any of them watch it. >> >> >>for a long time i've thought to myself if i make it in the movie >>business, i want to try and get Chris to do the score for one of my >>movies - i even know which one. >> >>so i was also wondering - if Chris, Ben, Matt or Kim was going to do >>the score for a film, or if Sg was going to contribute another song to >>a soundtrack, what sort of film do you think it would be, or should >>be? what song would you want it to be, if it wasn't a new song? >> >> >>that's all for now... >> >> >>~Lorraine >> >> >>"so I drink in the shadows of an evening sky. . . . ." >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > ------------------------------ From: Mercyhurst Prep Library Subject: Re: vehicles Naw, the drive a car like on Knight Rider or else Batman! At 06:02 PM 3/12/97 -0800, you wrote: >scooby doo? the weiner mobile? clown cars? i thought they drove the A-team van...... > >al > ------------------------------ From: Mercyhurst Prep Library Subject: Re: A Final Word on the Grammy's At 09:37 PM 3/12/97 +0000, you wrote: >This is directed to everyone who seems to think it's so strange that >Chris attended the Grammy's with his wife. What is strange about >either one of them being there ? Agreed! Why is everyone jumping on that? They were nominated, and I'd expect someone, if not the whole band, to have been there, wouldn't you guys? ------------------------------ From: Slave4cc@aol.com Subject: You and Brad & Soundgarden Ben transcribes an interview for SOMMS March 13: >It's always sort of a strange moment < >when someone rocks out. What is the etiquette here? Fill in on air drums? < >Pick up something and examine it?..."< If your in a room with Brad Pitt, and hes jamming to Soundgarden, (you are one lucky dude/dudette) then obviously what you should do is...jam along to any part cuz you have all the parts memorized, vocals, drums, bass, lead or rhythm guitar, etc. Dont be a dork and examine the ash tray or something or Brad will know your not cool... You CAN daydream about a threesome between yourself, Brad, & Chris, but dont stare at Brad or he will know!! (If I offend thee, email mee privatlee) Carol (hee hee) I'd like to thank SOMMS, the academy, and Soundgarden for where Im at today. ------------------------------ From: Andrea Pinto Subject: delayed reaction >I know she is a long time, respected SOMMS member but.......does Caryn have >to post 5 times a day? Does she really need get so upset by other peoples >opinions? Caryn should try to be understanding and dare I say *friendly* to >others before being defensive and mean. >We cant all agree on everything because its human nature. If you were my >child (bad example I know cuz my kids are little), I would hug you and tell >you not to let other people bother you so much cuz life is too short. LIGHTEN >UP would ya 1. What the F*** does this have to do with SG? 2. If you have a problem with Caryn, why don't you email her privately. I'm sure she'd love to chat with you. 3. To keep my post SG-related: why did only Kim sign up on the letter to H. Mubarak & not the rest of SG? 4. Where can I apply for the job of deputy to the List Thug? He might need some help if he's inebriated. ------------------------------ From: Aferdity@aol.com Subject: Here's Something To Think About!! :) I have no idea what Chris is driving now but a little bird told me that way back when he was really big in saving the planet (just look at the song Hands All Over) so he didn't drive anything but rode around on a bike. Well, someone thought Chris's bike was so cool they let it star (along side Pee Wee) in a movie. No lie, if you look at the end of the credits, in really fine print, it tells who the bike belongs to. But the bike is no more because when Chris found out where Pee Wee's hands had been, he had it recycled into tuna cans. Also, Chris and SG were becoming more and more known so he couldn't be seen crusing around on his bike anymore. That just wouldn't live up to how people see him, you know what I mean?!?! Anyway, if you don't believe me ask the little birdie who told me, okay!!! Take care and be sweet!! Stay Cool, Kelly :) ------------------------------ From: frbpollock@schoollink.com (Billy Pollock) Subject: chris vs anybody there is no one who can compare to the man in question. Corgan has nothing on him because he is competely different. worse thing Corgan could do was lose his drummer. anyone heard the song off of the lost highway cd,it's got a techno beat to it(kind of). Chris vs corgan- chris multidemensional country(call me a dog)thrash(slaves and buldozers)pop(black hole sun)rock(burden). Corgan 2 demensional hard(jelly belly) soft(tonight tonight) Chris vs Staley- no contest, maybe if layne wrote a quarter of the songs that chris does than maybe but layne doesn't. Chris vs Weiland-ha ha scott just started writing songs ha ha ha Chris vs Cantrell-now here's a battle. both are geniuses, jerry has got to get on his own but he will never amount to much because Chain's is identified by staley's personality. they should seriously work together. Chris vs Thayil-any takers on this war. ------------------------------ Subject: Say Anything... From: Brydon Cheyney CS95 Did any UK SOMMSters catch a film on ITV, Wednesday night called 'Say Anything'? Some Cameron Crowe film from 1989 with John Cusak... Anyway... Film wasn't the best but the soundtrack was interesting... Soundgarden were on with 'Flower' and 'Toybox', Mother Love Bone had 'Cloe Dancer/Crown Of Thorns', Living Colour were on there, Fishbone, the Replacements, the Chilli Peppers... I mean - 1989??? Not the greatest time for decent music with all the pop crap that dominated at the time... Around the inception of 'grunge' ;) I don't know if the SG songs were on the soundtrack (if one was released), but I didn't see it mentioned in the Releases section of Seths page. Anyone have any idea? Brydon - -- Loneliness - An interesting place to visit, just don't take any friends ------------------------------ From: Fiona Thiessen Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Wednesday, 12 Mar 1997 No, definetly would not call if i got Chris' or Ed's etc phone number unless they themselves gave it to me or wanted me to have it. B/c their home is probably one of the few places they get privacy, and after all that musicians (that I like) give to me, I could not (imo) abuse their right to not talk to me, just b/c i'm a big fan. Although I must say I'd be tempted to ring and ask for another person, hoping m y Australian accent would sucker them in to have a bit of a chat with me!! Please check out the interview I transcribed, it's the RRR one in misc (radio interview) section, it's really interesting. Excuse the spelling mistakes, it was sent late at night!! ------------------------------ From: Rebekah Henderson Subject: Maestro! (To the theme of "The Flintstones.") Soundgarden Meet the Soundgarden They're the modern rock-age family From the town of Seattle They're an act out of the grunge-rock scene Someday maybe Shroom will win the fight And she'll have Chris Cornell for just one night Soundgarden Meet the Soundgarden You'll have a Chris & Kim time, a Matt & Ben time You'll have a gay ol' time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just a little something to put a smile on everyone's face. :) May Soundgarden be with you. Rebekah ------------------------------ From: CL Miller Subject: This just in. . . Hello there kiddies! I think that it would be a VERY good idea (since we may be in a SG "downtime"), that we direct our collective energies to a more worthwhile activity other than flaming Caryn or smashing The Pumpkins. How about this? Although I am not an expert in Egyptian culture and society, I feel that the heavy metal fans' BASIC HUMAN RIGHTS have been violated. I am trying carefully not to be ethnocentric and think that just because we are Americans, and this would not be allowed in America (at least to a certain degree), that Egypt should change it's policy and ascribe to our way of thinking. I think that we, as intelligent (mostly) members of music-appreciation should ban together and help others convince the Egyptian government that what they are doing is fundamentally wrong! We should all make a post and have it e-mailed to the Egyptian government. How this could be accomplished, I am not sure. If someone who deals with politics or any government agencies has access to an appropriate E-mail address, it could be very helpful. Perhaps a common petition that we could all "sign" by E-Mail. What do you think Seth and Sommsters? IT IS OUR CIVIC DUTY AS MUSIC LOVERS AND HUMAN BEINGS! Love you all! Chris - -- Thank you for allowing me to babble incessantly! Check out my store's homepage! http://www.MovieStop.com My favorite quote of the week: "You ate my ear. . .you killed your wife. . . . . .you framed me. . .and you're mad at me for LYING?" ~~ keanu reeves feeling minnesota ------------------------------ From: Orko Subject: Re: chris vs anybody WhaT about chris vs Vedder? close race... anyone like to comment on that? > Chris vs corgan- chris multidemensional country(call me a dog)thrash(slaves > and buldozers)pop(black hole sun)rock(burden). Corgan 2 demensional > hard(jelly belly) soft(tonight tonight) > > Chris vs Staley- no contest, maybe if layne wrote a quarter of the songs > that chris does than maybe but layne doesn't. > > Chris vs Weiland-ha ha scott just started writing songs ha ha ha > > Chris vs Cantrell-now here's a battle. both are geniuses, jerry has got to > get on his own but he will never amount to much because Chain's is > identified by staley's personality. they should seriously work together. > > Chris vs Thayil-any takers on this war. > > ------------------------------ From: "Nikki Meyer" Subject: Chris vs. Kim? hmmmm now that's interesting, I'm not too sure about that one. I agree with you about Cornell vs. Cantrell Here's a joke: Cornell vs. Cobain (I HATE NIRVANA!) What about Cornell vs. Vedder? - --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Trung Tran Subject: chris, eddie and rolling stone Rereading the Eddie Vedder article from Rolling Stone that caused an uproar, doesn't Chris Cornell's hate for the magazine seem incredibly shortsighted? I can understand Chris wanting to defending his friend but seeing as how RS only presented the facts, why is Chris so pissed? Is he afraid deep inside that RS may have been right about his best friend? Come on Chris..relax. - -Trung ------------------------------ From: Geoff Subject: Re: chris, eddie and rolling stone Excuse my tone for a second, but how the fuck do you know RS presented only "facts"? Oh, yeah lemme guess...you and vedder are pals right? Did you stop to think for a moment that Chris read some stuff that he *knew* was not fact? I'm willing to bet that Chris Cornell knows Eddie Vedder much better than you. Or are you just hoping it's all true because you dislike EV? Geoff On Thu, 13 Mar 1997, Trung Tran wrote: > > Rereading the Eddie Vedder article from Rolling Stone that caused an > uproar, doesn't Chris Cornell's hate for the magazine seem incredibly > shortsighted? I can understand Chris wanting to defending his friend > but seeing as how RS only presented the facts, why is Chris so pissed? Is > he afraid deep inside that RS may have been right about his best friend? > > Come on Chris..relax. > > -Trung > ------------------------------ From: Orko Subject: Re: chris, eddie and rolling stone alright... that article in RS about edved was completely one sided and extremely biased saying that PJ had lost their touch. Chris as well as me disagree with this and therefore take a stance against RS. Orko ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: Re: chris, eddie and rolling stone On Thu, 13 Mar 1997, Trung Tran wrote: > > Rereading the Eddie Vedder article from Rolling Stone that caused an > uproar, doesn't Chris Cornell's hate for the magazine seem incredibly > shortsighted? I can understand Chris wanting to defending his friend > but seeing as how RS only presented the facts, why is Chris so pissed? Is > he afraid deep inside that RS may have been right about his best friend? facts??? what facts? talk to someone i knew in high school. the person they will describe to you will in no way resemble who i am at age 33. of course, if i became rich and famous, people who wouldn't even eat lunch with me would be clamoring to claim they were my friend. there was not ONE source in that rolling stone article who was attributed by name who did not clearly have their own personal agenda. i have never seen so many 'an unidenfitied source' attributions in one article in my life. i think chris is pissed because if it can happen to eddie, it can happen to him. if rolling stone takes it into their head to do a slash story about him, they most certainly could. there are plenty of jealous, spiteful people in the seattle music scene who would happily speak off the record (and especially where money is involved) and give you all sorts of "dirt" about chris cornell. i for one am always suspicious of people who claim to be close to famous people who are so willing to tell you negative stories. if someone asked you about a good friend of yours, would you only tell them bad stuff? i don't think so. chris, and michael stipe, and courtney, and others were angry because it was such irresponsible journalism. write me the same article about eddie vedder and give me sources, and we'll talk. - --caryn ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: kim and egyptian fans On Thu, 13 Mar 1997, Andrea Pinto wrote: > 3. To keep my post SG-related: why did only Kim sign up on the letter to > H. Mubarak & not the rest of SG? perhaps because of kim's ethnic background? i don't know, i'm just suggesting. maybe he represented the band? maybe he was the only one around that day? maybe he was the only one who had an opinion? i mean, you know kim ;-> i think it's all a tempest in a teapot, because right now the islamic fundamentalists are supressing EVERYONE in egypt who isn't one of them: women, people who are too 'western', academics, people who speak out against the fundamentalists, christians. hell, they even target tourists - -- it's unbelievably dangerous for a tourist in egypt these past few years (speaking as someone who has been there a few times). i would imagine that amnesty international's web site has more information about the egyptian situation, www.amnesty.org -- and it might be a good idea for any potential letter-writers to educate themselves more thorougly on the issues before writing. i also find this VERY interesting, considering the amount of repression and discrimination given heavy metal fans in the former eastern bloc during the iron curtain years. heavy metal was *the* underground music, and the government did all they could to supress it. i didn't see soundgarden, or anyone else, getting involved then..... - --caryn ------------------------------ From: eliza Subject: Lolla '97 sorry if anyone has posted info about this (i'm not currently on the list)...saw this blurb about Lolla '97 in a local paper in case you are interested: "Lollapalooza '97 is coming together, with Tricky, Snoop Doggy Dog, and Korn nearly done deals as Main Stage Players and negotiations with Tool are ongoing. The Foo Fighters reportedly turned down the Lolla invite to concentrate on recording a new album (minus William :-() Double Lolla veterans Soundgarden will reportedly not be involved in the '97 event in order to also work on a new album. Metal gods Metallica are rumored to have not been invited." eliza *********************************** We are built upon false foundations We are built upon misplaced expectations and blown away... --Handsome ------------------------------ From: Rita Bonofiglio Subject: Re: chris, eddie and rolling stone On Thu, 13 Mar 1997, Trung Tran wrote: > Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 15:18:54 -0600 (CST) > From: Trung Tran > To: somms@MIT.EDU > Subject: chris, eddie and rolling stone > > > Rereading the Eddie Vedder article from Rolling Stone that caused an > uproar, doesn't Chris Cornell's hate for the magazine seem incredibly > shortsighted? I can understand Chris wanting to defending his friend > but seeing as how RS only presented the facts, why is Chris so pissed? Is > he afraid deep inside that RS may have been right about his best friend? > > Come on Chris..relax. > > -Trung > sorry folks, this may not be totally soundgarden releated but i feel the duty and obligation to reply...rs DID NOT present the "facts" in that piece of trash, um, i mean article...not only that, what was the point of that article? they seemed bent on getting back at pearl jam because they would not do an interview the rolling stone way, very childish tactics if you ask me...that may not be the only reason chris is pissed off at them, did you happen to glimpse the feature on alice in chains? this magazine has NO SHAME. why shouldn't chris be weary of rolling stone, they are capable of brutal press rape (courtney love's words) and if they could do it to fellow bands like pj and aic, soundgarden could be next... - -----rita b. ------------------------------ From: Rita Bonofiglio Subject: Re: chris vs anybody On Thu, 13 Mar 1997, Orko wrote: > Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 14:32:22 -0600 (CST) > From: Orko > To: Billy Pollock > Cc: somms@MIT.EDU > Subject: Re: chris vs anybody > > WhaT about > > chris vs Vedder? close race... anyone like to comment on that? > hmmmm, i don't know, i still think cantrell vs. cornell is the only real close race... ******warning: this just MY opinion, no need to get pissed***** - -----rita b. ------------------------------ From: ThNrthFace@aol.com Subject: Re: CHRIS'S # In a message dated 97-03-13 02:26:19 EST, clr@nwlink.com (caryn rose) writes: << > I *will* find out if ANYONE calls Chris, and you will pay with you life. I > can promise you that I will hunt you down and butcher you like a pig. I am > the Innebriated Thug, more dangerous than ever. > to perhaps phrase the thug's point a bit more rationally, it will make ALL >of us on this list look bad were anyone to harass chris or any of the band >members in this fashion. >then again, i don't believe the story for a minute, but the point is: NO >ONE on this list has any right to call any of the members of soundgarden >at home unless THEY PERSONALLY give you that number and tell you to call. >they have been so open with us, and so helpful, and so generous -- why >would you want to ruin that?! >> Um, I was serious. I really will find out and hunt that person down like a dog and feed their entrails to my neighbor, the deranged psychopath. Aaron "It's amazing what you see when you turn your back"-Whatsever by our beloved Hater ------------------------------ From: JAMES COLES <808state@pixi.com> Subject: inflatable soule Does anyone know where or how, I can get the inflatable soule cd? I've tried emailing peter cornell,but no response.:( I'm dying to hear it......please help!!! Aloha, Nancy ------------------------------ From: Werewolf from Soundallot Subject: Vehicles What I heard was that all four of the quy's chipped in and bought Lone Star's flying Winnebago, and then took over the local quiki-mart in Springfeild so that the could squeeze the ju-u-uice with Link and Stoney. This may or may not be true because I was cleaning my ears with really neato cotton swabs while gargling Lucky Charms and singing the bossanova versin of a recreated classic by a person whose name elude's me at the moment. (well, now that I think about it, It was probably my room-mate telling me to shut-up -- like a lot of you are diong right now -- or babbleing some incoherent noncence just for his own edification. OR it could have been in a dress eating chips and salsa while floating on a giant peice of spam. I would not eat them on a boat, I would not eat them with a goat. I do not like speened leggs and spam.) Uh oh, I think I've gone way beyond the rhelm of good taste (but you can't taste e-mail) SHUT-UP you stay out of this!! (Well I suppose you can if you lick the screen) It's an abstract concept you stupid git! (But..) NO! Shaddup!!(But..) **insert scene of uncomprehencable violence** There, It's over (no it isn't.) See you guys when I'm in a more normal mood with myself --yeah, I think that makes sence?-- Ryan I am searching for the reality where the day after today is the day before tomorrow... if anybody has found it, please email me. ------------------------------ From: Taylor Holmes Subject: Re: chris, eddie and rolling stone Don't read. Point1: The mainstream pop media controls most of the music that is listened to in this country. If anyone thinks that they have *not* been strongly influenced by pop media, then I suggest a second moment to ponder that thought... Ahem.. Buzz Clip's Point2: Arriving clinged to the back of what is termed 'popular art' in America, was an unwritten clause... or claws... Think about it... Popular art in America can produce many fortunes within the span of 5 - 8 years ( while it's still considered popular )... When the popular media "discovers" or decides on the next popular trend, then it is their job to promote it... Point3: An inherent misconception, yet realism in Popular Music is the need to always promote what is considered 'on the edge' music. The path of music promoters is to searching vigourously for the next 'trend'. As *soon* as the current trend shows the tiniest slowdown in sales, then Popular music media will begin to *sell* you the next trend of music you will listen to... i.e. they will strongly promote the new, "hip" bands, and they will destroy the bands that, 2 years ago, were the major deals. Point4: What we are watching is the climax of the popular music hurricane that struck Seatlle... PJ, SG and others, were just fucking around and doing their thing, when the hurricane hit. Now it's moving onto the next wave of music that it will promote... while trashing everything it previously cherished... Point5: All media is biased... Some more than others... Always look for the angle of any article or publication. Point6: Pop Music is based on nothing but cash $. 1994 Soundgarden/Superunkown = top seller, big bucks for everyone. 1996 Soundgarden/DOTU = "Even Soundgarden's self-produced 'Down on the Upside' has been somewhat slighted by listeners who are tired of the slimy, bland taste of Grunge"... - taken from a local article (M. Apple editor? ;-) The Eddie Vedder article is just a final sign that "it's over" for the Seattle scene in terms of mainstream popularity... The band, Vedder and all, who the media glorified as the "spokesband of a Generation" in 1992 is now the whipping boy of a new movement... The media has been really waiting for the day to strike back at a whole scene that had rebelled against them in the first place... We're actually lucky to still have our bands... It's a pop scene that likes to crucify and immortalize it's hero's... Elvis Presley, John Lennon, Jim Morrisson, Jimi Hendrix, Kurt Cobain, Shannon Hoon, Andrew Wood, James Dean, River Phoenix, Marilyn Monroe, the list goes on... and it *will* go on... Give Soundgarden and Pearl Jam a little time and pop will once again embrace them, this time as 'legends'. They'll be the classic rock of the 2000's... It's all a game of survival... {:-) Later, Taylor - -"Anyone know where I can get some good Soundgarden Pictures?" ------------------------------ From: "David E. White" <"dewhite@telenet.net"@telenet.net> Subject: concerts I was wondering where I could get some pictures of Soundgarden. I also would like to know if there will be any type of tours or concerts coming up. Jordan ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 3 Issue 66] ***************************************