From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Tuesday, 11 Mar 1997 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 01:10:18 EST Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Tuesday, 11 Mar 1997 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: rusty cage in the air Just Another Musically Introspective Expression. Re: 90 Re: Driving around with Chris. If the pants fit wear them!! How does your Soundgarden grow? New album Re: Driving around with Chris. Lounge-a-palooza Unofficial Homepage Re: 90 new metal crown Re: New album Re: New album Re:Who wears the pants? satanoscillatemymetallicsonatas instant@deltanet Re:Who wears the pants? you'll never sleep without me... Pump Up the Volume Re: Pump Up the Volume Re: concert revues bloody murder is the best I've heard her scream... Re: you'll never sleep without me... they say if you look hard... You got it all wrong... THANK GOD IT'S OVER Re: they say if you look hard... Chris & Billy lollapolooza 92 boot JCP, CCvsBC, Re: DOTU Savage Garden ------------------------------------------------------------ From: UnknownFan@aol.com Subject: rusty cage in the air hey guys-- i have a quick tidbit to share...i just got back from europe last night and on the pre-programmed aero-music channel called "contemporary scene" (or something queer like that) the first song was johnny cash's version of *rusty cage*. i was shocked, but psyched as i had been without sg (or even a sg facsimile!) for 10 days. props to usair! i also got some cool cd's in london at hmv--most excited about the german black hole sun single with live versions of jcp and beyond the wheel. anyway, unfortunately i had to unsub from the list, but if anyone wants to get in touch with me in the future, best to try "laurawein@aol.com"--especially if we ever have the somms get-together here in washington, dc (hint, hint jamie!) :-) take care all...laura ------------------------------ From: Stacy Meyrick Subject: Just Another Musically Introspective Expression. > my point? you don't like smashing pumpkins? good for you. you think taht soundgarden is the ultimate band of all time? good for you! but do NOT > fucking continue to trash every other band out there that does not speak to you personally. just because YOU do not like them does not mean that they > do not have worth, or longevity, or that someone doesn't think about them what you think about soundgarden. Yes, I've really missed this. It seems quite strange to me actually, it's been like two years and nothing's actually changed. In fact, I've had this very same argument, if not twice, and each time for some reason I've been wrong. In fact, Caryn, it's nice to know that someone, for just once, actually agrees. > you didn't even offer a constructive discussion, like justin did... so can we *really* end this pointless discussion before we continue to offend people on > here? Most people don't, it's a mailing list. It's usually an excuse to talk about Chris Cornell's car, his wife's car, probably his parents' car as well. If we run out of conversation then we can just talk about the awards; about how once again we can find a category for music and sell it with fancy packaging and cleavage. Never mind bootlegging, this is petty change in comparison. We might eventually manage a conversation but then that would probably be quite pointless as someone will swear excessively at you and tell you that your whole argument is not really constructive and nothing more than egotistical rubbish. That really would explain why I can't recognise most of the people on this list. > in the future i'd appreciate it if someone is going to criticize what i say, first please read it. don't just take one part, distort it, and then respond with a > sanctimonious discourse that makes no sense. I very much doubt it. As good as your work might be, if it doesn't say "fuck" or offends someone, nobody will actually read it. They take the gist of what you're saying and then reply with something completely irrelevant to what you actually said, though it will contain the word "fuck" and will more than likely offend you, just to make sure that you'll read it. > Chris seems like a total alien to the "celebrity scene". You really think so Kathie, he probably wouldn't be quite as marketable if he was. He didn't seem quite so alienated in "Detail" magazine, or any of the other magazine articles or interviews that I've seen or read. He's a celebrity, he has to be, it wouldn't be music otherwise. Your mother sounds like quite an interesting character by the way, she reminds me a little of mine. Stacy. ------------------------------ From: Mercyhurst Prep Library Subject: Re: 90 Sure don't want to start any controversy, and maybe this company has expanded......the 90 comes from a line of skateboarding clothing. My friend Lin used to trade with a girl in Arizona whose mom owned a hip little boutique and she said Chris would come in and spend like $1000 at a time on this clothing line that she said was tied in to skateboarding. At 05:15 PM 3/8/97 -0500, you wrote: > I was also wondering what the business with the 90 is. I have >combed through most of Seth's site but have not found anything on this >matter. All I know is that Kim is wearing a 90 shirt in the FOBD video. > Could it have something to do with Andy Wood's death in 1990? > > >Jesus > ------------------------------ From: Velvtongue@aol.com Subject: Re: Driving around with Chris. i am in the process of typing up this very SPIN article for Seth's page...it's nearly done. (i'm a little backlogged, otherwise it would've been available a few days ago....) actually, as Seth and i discussed, this article WAS posted on his site at one point, but mysteriously disappeared.... hm. it should be there again within the week. sore fingers and all, velvtongue ------------------------------ From: tonerkin Subject: If the pants fit wear them!! >Kathie wrote: >Perhaps this is >the case with Chris. Maybe he figures Susan must know what she's doing, >so I may as well go along with it. God knows I doubt SG would be where >they are today without Susan's management talents (I know, sacrilege, >but I bet its true). Chris seems like a total alien to the "celebrity >scene". I'm not saying this is a bad thing. And I'm not saying they >never disagree on anything. But I'll bet he welcomes her guidance and >doesnt' give a shit what anyone else thinks of it (except maybe the >other guys in the band). >Any comments? If anyone has a copy of the Pre-Grammy interview on MTV guess who is in the background when Chris is talking.....yep! Susan I had to pause the VCR to confirm it was her BUTT she is "minding the store" as we say. I think alot of times artistic people don't have "business sense" hence all the old rock and rollers who got ripped off by unscrupulous managers back in the 50's and 60's. I'm glad that Soundgarden has someone who looks after them and makes wise decisions. The only problem I can see is I would think Chris and Susan would get sick of "Soundgarden"(the job) it has to permeate a good part of their lives together also. Sometimes mixing work and home is bad....ask anyone that works in the same place as their mate! toni BTW: Angela, where are you?? e-mail me I need your address!!! ------------------------------ From: Slave4cc@aol.com Subject: How does your Soundgarden grow? Hello, I was reading that fascidnating account on Sundays list of that guys school project where he was subjecting seedlings to BHS and they DIDNT grow very big (this is really funny to me Im sorry=). I know you got an "A" and all. I think perhaps a better experiment would have been to put one container under a grow lamp with Soundgarden posters on the walls and play the entire BMF album over and over in one room, and put, like another container in sunlight listening to Superunknown over and over with no pictures for inspiration and just see what happens. I bet there would NOT be a difference, only the light source would be different, or maybe the vibrations would be different. Maybe you should try this with pot plants. (just kidding) I just had to comment on that one....he was so in depth with the whole thing (#2 lead pencil and all). I have found listening to Soundgarden does not appear to have any adverse affects on fish, at least none have committed jump-out-of-the-tank suicide while being forced to listen to it real loud. Although I think one has brain damage cuz he likes to swim round in circles and and smack his head on the lid really hard while NO MUSIC is playing at all. Its like dam, stop it or Im flushing you. Yea, and after some reporter goes and blabs to the world what kind of car Chris drives, he has to go and get a..a...Mustang?? Yea I bet on Mariah Carry's life its black too ;). Why the heck not go for the old mopar muscle cars, like a '79 Dodge Challenger RT or something really cool! (Warning: these opinions have been expressed at risk of being disagreed with ;) Looking Montana, feeling Montana Carol ------------------------------ From: frbpollock@schoollink.com (Billy Pollock) Subject: New album anybody hear any news on a new album being released within the next year.Also is there any plans to release a box set with all of their unreleased material on it. ------------------------------ From: me Subject: Re: Driving around with Chris. I typed up the spin july 96 article (Short story) actually finished it last night. Does any one wannt it?? Its reallllyyy loooonnngggggg. Dave ------------------------------ From: Andrea Subject: Lounge-a-palooza Yes, it's as scary as it sounds. I was reading the March issue of Replay mag (one of those record store rags, I think) and there was a little blurb about Steve & Eydie (sp?) doing an album called "Lounge-a-palooza" which, I'm assuming, will consist of lounge-style covers of *alternative* songs a la Pat Boone's new metal album. Included will be a cover of "Black Hole Sun". Actually, I believe this was called a "highlight". I'll keep my commentary to myself in case there are any diehard Steve & Eydie fans on the list. Just thought I'd share the info. BTW, does anyone have the lyrics to "Heartfist"? If so, could you send them to me--I'd greatly appreciate it! Andrea ------------------------------ From: mark filleman Subject: Unofficial Homepage This message is for everyone involved with this site. It is by far the most comprehensive source of Soundgarden on the Web. It totally blows away the Official Soundgarden page. I've learned things from fellow subscribers that I never would have known if not for this digest. Seth has done an amazing job. Deborah Baker & Caryn Rose are also a constant source of valuable Soundgarden info, and of course Shroom's constant Chris stories are always hilarious. I just wanted to express my appreciation for this awesome site. I'm sure I am not alone in my opinion. Kristen F. ------------------------------ From: endless_nameless@prodigy.com (GRRL NIKI FREER) Subject: Re: 90 Mercyhurst Prep Li wrote: >> My friend Lin used to trade with a girl in Arizona whose mom owned a hip little boutique and she said Chris would come in and spend like $1000 at a time on this clothing line that she said was tied in to skateboarding. >> um... that's kinda funny cause i never remeber SG or chris visiting Arizona all that much, seeing as it is it on the south end of the country and they live in Seattle... i wouldn't believe everything that someone tells you, cause that just doesn't sound right to me. mind riot ____ we see you cry turn your head then we slap your face we see you try see you fail some things never change... ------------------------------ From: Anders Nergaard Subject: new metal crown Since I'm a relatively new reader to the Digest, I don't know if this topic has been treated before, but anyways... I just finished reading "Soundgarden: New metal crown" (aka. the SG bible) by Chris Nickson, and I'm kinda surprised by the way he considers UMOK as a mistake; a record that caught SG in a transition between punk and metal, and therefor it basically sucked. I find this very hard to believe. Don't you out there think that songs like "Flower", "All your Lies", "Beyond the wheel", "Smokestack Lightning" (which he slaughtered), "Head Injury", "Incessant Mace" and last but not least, "Mood for trouble" (I personally rank this song among the 'top ten' from SG) KICK ASS??? Also, is there any other books written about SG? Andy (Hey, today the sun actually shined up here in Norway!!) "Fill Your Head With Crazy Sounds" ------------------------------ From: Betty Anne Redson Subject: Re: New album Billy Pollock wrote: > > anybody hear any news on a new album being released within the next > year.Also is there any plans to release a box set with all of their > unreleased material on it. Do you know when they are planning to release the box set? And where did you get this information? Yes, I heard they would have an album out within the year, but I don't know if it's true. - Marie ------------------------------ From: Geoff Subject: Re: New album Ok, Betty, if you go back and carefully read Billy's post, you'll notice that he does not claim that there WILL be a box set, but he is asking if there will be a box set. As far as a new album goes, in the interview preceding the Grammies, Chris said they may start working on a new album immediately. Nobody has officially announced any dates, but if you think about it, they are not going to release a new album next week. Hopefully we'll have a new album by the end of the year, but realistically I'd guess early next year. Does anybody recall the band's official stance on box-sets? It seems to me they have addressed the live-album issue, but I don't recall them mentioning box-sets. We know that they are not likely to release a live album for a few years at least. But what about a box-set? What the hell would they have to put on one? All the bsides I already have? That would kinda suck. Though it would be cool to have all of these songs on a few discs, instead of ten or so. Alright, I'm done blabbing. Geoff Betty Anne Redson wrote: > > Billy Pollock wrote: > > > > anybody hear any news on a new album being released within the next > > year.Also is there any plans to release a box set with all of their > > unreleased material on it. > > Do you know when they are planning to release the box set? And where > did you get this information? Yes, I heard they would have an album out > within the year, but I don't know if it's true. - Marie ------------------------------ From: Michael Rouse Subject: Re:Who wears the pants? First of all,I'd like to say hi and thanks to anyone who takes the time to read this. I've been on the list for a few months but this is my first time posting. As far as who "wears the pants" in Chris and Susan's relationship I would like to think that they are equal partners and make decisions together. I feel sure that Chris welcomes her advice and guidance when it comes to his career but I can't see him going along with something unless he agreed that it was the best thing to do. I don't think Susan would want to be thought of as domineering,I know I wouldn't find it flattering myself. As far as them going to the Grammy Awards together I tend to agree with the person who said(I'm sorry I don't remember the name) that he went with her because she needed or wanted to be there. Since I don't know Chris and Susan I feel very presumptuous even trying to guess about the nature of anything concerning their relation- ship but this is just my opinion based on what I've read,or heard, or seen of the two of them over the years. Teresa ------------------------------ From: Geoff Subject: satanoscillatemymetallicsonatas Hey list, It's been a hell of a long time since I updated all of you on the number of copies of somms accounted for by list-members. It's the somms registry so to speak. Currently we have 72 copies of somms owned by curent and past list-members. These list members also are aware of 21 other copies owned by non-listmembers. Now, even if you did email me before to join the registry, check to see that you are still on the list. There was a big fuck-up on my part a while ago. The names listed are in chronological order by time I received a notice that you own a copy. Later, Geoff P.S. If anybody else has a copy, email me preferably with the word SOMMS in the subject. I'll only count genuine copies. (i.e. not a dubbed copy - this ain't the pirate registry - ar-b-dar) A name followed by (+1) indicates that that person also knows people who own it. I know one person myself. A number in brackets without a '+' indicates that they own that number of copies. Clear? I hope so. (list of somms owners follows) The list of owners includes: Laughing Boy Kelly Christa Jones Seth (+3) (including 1 radio-only promo) Chris Mackenzie euphoric Aaron Jennifer L. York (+2) B. Kinser Cornell Vikki Lee James Ingram Little Joe Blind Dog Stephen Fox (2) (including somms-only copy given to radio stations) Myself (Geoff Kleemola)(+1) Dwayne Bryant Dallis Toybox (2) Caryn Rose Chris Farley John Freeman Eric Gardner HasNoName Audrey Hillyard Jizzwack Nate Crosswhite (+2) nancy e phend Eric Lanning OponFam Kerri Char Saracen Stuart Davies Alyssa Kent Alex (BrthRitual@aol.com) Darren L Kochersperger Kazam Ali Eliza J Polly (+3) PenCapChew (Rohin Bhalla) Niki Freer erin@planet.net Justine (+2) Gonzo (2) Jamesetta Simpson Ray (Unknman) (+1) Aleko Ben Timberlake (+2) Joseph E Candelaria Dan Hersch(?) Greg Fox (2) Angela Drum Bonnie Cochrane Christy Shroom Jenn Wilson Jezebel GeekGirl (Dena) Karen Monoker DeeDee Bradshaw-Autry (+1) The Guitarist-2001 Scott Helsley Candy (+1) Angela Eshuis Shawn Kennedy (+2) Jason Janik (+1) Michael Groark Lisa Slater Vikki Anselmo Greg Bensimon ------------------------------ From: SndGrdn45@aol.com Subject: instant@deltanet instant@deltanet.com wrote >Uh was this directed twards any one? by any chance? Yes it was. I knew she was being defensive. SORRY!! God, you people flip out over everything. Also, it's towards, not twards. ------------------------------ From: Caryn Rose Subject: Re:Who wears the pants? On Mon, 10 Mar 1997, Michael Rouse wrote: > As far as who "wears the pants" in Chris and Susan's relationship > I would like to think that they are equal partners and make decisions > together. I feel sure that Chris welcomes her advice and guidance when > it comes to his career but I can't see him going along with something > unless he agreed that it was the best thing to do. he "welcomes her advice and guidance"??? she is not just his frickin' girlfriend, she is his MANAGEr, the manager of Soundgarden, also the manager of Alice in Chains and other bands. As such, her PRIMARY responsibility is Chris Cornell's and Soundgarden's career! although i do agree that chris wouldn't do something that he personally didn't feel right about, nor should he. > I don't think Susan > would want to be thought of as domineering,I know I wouldn't find it > flattering myself. ya know, if t heir manager was 1) not married to the lead singer; and 2) a man, none of us would be having intense discussions about them, inferring anything about them, or otherwise making judgements when we know nothing about silver management's internal workings. susan silver is highly regarded in the music industry as a highly professional manager who does a lot for her acts. the fact that she's also married to chris is almost incidental at this point in her career. >As far as them going to the Grammy Awards together > I tend to agree with the person who said(I'm sorry I don't remember the > name) that he went with her because she needed or wanted to be there. maybe he wanted to go with her? maybe he thought it would be fun? i'm sure susan went because AiC were there, and maybe for once they'd actually WIN something. i mean, didn't we have the discussion already that they should go, and some thought they shouldn't go -- seems to me that no matter WHAT they do, go or don't go, it's going to engender all sorts of useless discussion because it is, after all, none of our BUSINESS. > Since I don't know Chris and Susan I feel very presumptuous even > trying to guess about the nature of anything concerning their relation- > ship but this is just my opinion based on what I've read,or heard, or > seen of the two of them over the years. and i maintain that chris' attending the grammies has nothing to do with his personal relationship with susan, as far as we know. - --caryn ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: you'll never sleep without me... On Mon, 10 Mar 1997, Geoff wrote: > album for a few years at least. But what about a box-set? What the > hell would they have to put on one? All the bsides I already have? > That would kinda suck. Though it would be cool to have all of these > songs on a few discs, instead of ten or so. Alright, I'm done blabbing. I'm fairly certain that during a recent radio interview chris lamented the fact that it was non-u.s. citizens who benefitted from the inclusion of b-sides on single releases, and that those fans at home who buy their records get none (few, if any, singles have ever been officially released in the u.s., I'm told). so he ended up commenting how it would be cool to release a box set of some description, which would probably include all of the b-sides from dotu-era singles. ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide words by kim thayil ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: SndGrdn45@aol.com Subject: Pump Up the Volume I saw the movie "Pump up the Volume" the other day. Soundgarden is on the soundtrack. I know this movie's a few years old, but does anyone know what song is on the soundtrack? Thanks. ------------------------------ From: Geoff Subject: Re: Pump Up the Volume Heretic is on the Pump up the Volume Soundtrack. It's a pretty cool tune, which can also be found on Loudest Love. Geoff ------------------------------ From: "CALUM HAMILTON" Subject: Re: concert revues re: concert revues Don't get me wrong Soundgarden are the best,and great in concert as I can attest,but my second favourite band is "Tool", has anyone seen them in concert cause i'm going to see them on April 13th at Festival Hall in Melbourne. Are they any good live?????? " The Aussie-American Connection" see ya!!! CAL.... ******************** INTERNAL SALES BBF COMPONENTS & PERIPHERALS ******************* ///OSOLOW\\\ ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: bloody murder is the best I've heard her scream... On Fri, 7 Mar 1997, tonerkin wrote: > OK...here is the deal. I went to my local record store today to look > around and what do I come across but a CD boot called Lollapolooza 92. Now > the picture alone of a sweaty bare-chested Chris was worth the 20 bucks well, even though my own motivation to buy the lolla '92 boot was different to your's toni , I ended up paying *$65*. it was back in those crazy days when I was first really getting into soundgarden's music, and I incorrectly thought that $65 was a fair price for something like a live bootleg cd. oh well, I've haven't bought anything from that shyster again. although there is a tool picture disc there I have my eye on... anyhow, for those who are interested, the boot in question (incorrect labelling and poor sound aside) is cool because it has a version of the band doing 'cop killer'. I thought it might be interesting to let other listers know what chris has to say about and during the performance of the song - before the song: "you guys might have noticed today a security problem. I have a little problem of my own. I guess they feel you don't have any rights even if you're paying $30 to see this show. in my opinion, we're here because of you guys, they're here because of you guys, everybody's here because you made this happen. the local news didn't make it happen. rolling stone magazine didn't make it happen and mtv didn't make it happen. it was you guys who made it happen and you gotta realise...you gotta realise you're a power. if anybody tells you that you can't buy something or you can't read something or you can't hear something or you can't say something you gotta fight and you gotta kick ass and make sure your fuckin' will is known. this is a song dedicated to that feeling. this is called cop killer by a band called bodycount... before the "fuck the police" bridge: " remember that you're not singing about wanting to kill somebody. you're just singing for your rights..." after the bridge: "...well, it's midnight and you're coming home from some late night refreshment and your hair is too long or your skin is too black, and so they make you in your beat up old car...and they pull you over and they start infringing on your rights as an american, the rights that you pay taxes for, the rights that you live for, the rights that you hopefully fuckin' vote for...those donut-eating, too much coffee drinkin', too quick on the trigger mother fuckers - fuck the police..." I hope that serves as a good intro to the cd, toni. I would dub it for you, but I have too much on my plate at the moment as it is. ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide words by kim thayil ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Caryn Rose Subject: Re: you'll never sleep without me... On Tue, 11 Mar 1997, blind dog wrote: > I'm fairly certain that during a recent radio interview chris > lamented the fact that it was non-u.s. citizens who benefitted from the > inclusion of b-sides on single releases, and that those fans at home who > buy their records get none (few, if any, singles have ever been officially > released in the u.s., I'm told). so he ended up commenting how it would > be cool to release a box set of some description, which would probably > include all of the b-sides from dotu-era singles. of course it would be "cool" for chris.... he won't have to pay through the nose for it. ;-( that's my primary argument about box sets. if i'm enough of a fan of a band, i have all the rare stuff, somehow, and i just end up feeling ripped off by the box set. if i'm not enough of a fan, i won't spend that kind of money on a box set. it's like the (sorry to mention their name yet AGAIN) pumpkins box set, which is way cool -- i like them, but not enough to spend $35 for it. (and i have to say that i think $35 was an unbelievably reasonable price for that particular box set). most box sets are imo a huge ripoff to the fans. ;-( and since A&M has been so bloody LAME with their non-lp bsides, i can't imagine they'd somehow be able to distinguish themselves and create a really super-cool soundgarden box set, fairly priced, that I would want... - --caryn ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: they say if you look hard... On Mon, 10 Mar 1997, Caryn Rose wrote: > most box sets are imo a huge ripoff to the fans. ;-( and since A&M has > been so bloody LAME with their non-lp bsides, i can't imagine they'd > somehow be able to distinguish themselves and create a really super-cool > soundgarden box set, fairly priced, that I would want... I'm not sure if you are talking about soundgarden specifically caryn, but I'm fairly certain that the choice of recent b-sides fell to the band, not a&m. the selection of dotu-era b-sides (repeats of *video* material, for pete's sake) seems to mirror the band's sentiment towards "unreleased material" - that their albums are so long that further tracks aren't necessary. call it stingy if you will (and I would add my voice to that chorus), but that is how the band feels. so I wouldn't expect much out of any box set or compilation that may be in the works. any tracks already published to be included would be ho hum ('jerry garcia's finger') and I don't imagine that any new material they've been squirreling away (like 'christi') will be on there. now if only a&m would pull their finger out and give us a *hater* box set... ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide words by kim thayil ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: iawake@ix.netcom.com (Chris (SGardnGrl)) Subject: You got it all wrong... I wonder where you may have heard this...but I believe that Chris & Susan DO NOT have matching Mustangs.... I think that you've got it alittle backwards... Susan & Chris own two Ford Explorers! :D And...Chris is the one who drives the Mustang. ------------------------------ From: CL Miller Subject: THANK GOD IT'S OVER Sometime on a cold March day, Caryn wrote: > i would NEVER, ever try > to compare these bands on a level of "who is the best"... because, frankly, > it's juvenile, pointless and doesn't prove anything. > Preach on Sister! This really struck a chord with me as I often get into arguments with my employees about this. I don't believe in forcing my opinion on others (only explaining it) but I don't like having other's opinions forced on me. This may appear contradictory at first, but look at it this way. If you can state your opinion and explain it in a way without degrading and/or disrespecting someone else's (whatever it may be) then your opinion is as valid as my driver's licence. Controversy = good stuff Anyway, got my pretty noose single in the mail today. Part 1 only, but nevertheless, there it was. I miss Soundgarden. Bye. Love you all Chris - -- Thank you for allowing me to babble incessantly! Check out my store's homepage! http://www.MovieStop.com My favorite quote of the week: "You ate my ear. . .you killed your wife. . . . . .you framed me. . .and you're mad at me for LYING?" ~~ keanu reeves feeling minnesota ------------------------------ From: Caryn Rose Subject: Re: they say if you look hard... On Tue, 11 Mar 1997, blind dog wrote: > I'm not sure if you are talking about soundgarden specifically > caryn, but I'm fairly certain that the choice of recent b-sides fell to > the band, not a&m. then i'm even more pissed about it. the selections i've seen have been what i'd expect some marketing drone at a major label would think that the "kids" would want to hear. > the selection of dotu-era b-sides (repeats of *video* > material, for pete's sake) seems to mirror the band's sentiment towards > "unreleased material" - that their albums are so long that further tracks > aren't necessary. justin, i'm not even looking for demos or tracks that didn't make it to the album, what i can't understand is the inclusion of live tracks from 1990 that are not that all rare. i refuse to believe that soundgarden haven't been recording live performances, if not systematically, at least sporadically enough to produce at least a HANDFUL of tracks that we all haven't heard already! > call it stingy if you will (and I would add my voice to > that chorus), but that is how the band feels. so I wouldn't expect much > out of any box set or compilation that may be in the works. any tracks > already published to be included would be ho hum ('jerry garcia's finger') > and I don't imagine that any new material they've been squirreling away > (like 'christi') will be on there. like i said above, i'm not even looking for that. but i refuse to believe they didn't record any of their lolla appearances... or the showbox... or any of the european dates. surely out of that would result a handful of tracks that would be new and different to hear.... > now if only a&m would pull their finger out and give us a *hater* > box set... dream on, justin ;-) - --caryn ------------------------------ From: clindz@wavenet.com (chris) Subject: Chris & Billy Hey, all you participants in this lame and pointless debate... Cornell is a good lyricist Corgan is a good lyricist But neither of them can hold a candle to Il Duce of the Mentors. I mean, come on - "The Four F Club"? "Sandwich of Love"? "Golden Showers"? - - like anyone has a chance against such raw mastery of English composition! Actually, this is a joke... all except the part about the debate being lame and pointless. It's only a matter of taste and opinion... you may as well debate the existence of God. Some people say one thing, some say the other, and there's no way to win one bunch over to the other viewpoint. But, in a fight, Cornell could kick Corgan's skinny little butt. Peace, Chris * * * * * * * * * * "Sittin' here like wet ashes with x's in my eyes and drawing flies" Soundgarden, "Drawing Flies" ------------------------------ From: Betty Anne Redson Subject: lollapolooza 92 boot blind dog wrote: > > sorry if this is a repeat, but I'm not sure that it got out > properly. > > On Fri, 7 Mar 1997, tonerkin wrote: > > > OK...here is the deal. I went to my local record store today to look > > around and what do I come across but a CD boot called Lollapolooza 92. Now > > the picture alone of a sweaty bare-chested Chris was worth the 20 bucks > > well, even though my own motivation to buy the lolla '92 boot was > different to your's toni , I ended up paying *$65*. it was back > in those crazy days when I was first really getting into soundgarden's > music, and I incorrectly thought that $65 was a fair price for something > like a live bootleg cd. oh well, I've haven't bought anything from that > shyster again. although there is a tool picture disc there I have my eye > on... > > anyhow, for those who are interested, the boot in question > (incorrect labelling and poor sound aside) is cool because it has a > version of the band doing 'cop killer'. I thought it might be interesting > to let other listers know what chris has to say about and during the > performance of the song - > > before the song: "you guys might have noticed today a security > problem. I have a little problem of my own. I guess they feel you don't > have any rights even if you're paying $30 to see this show. in my > opinion, we're here because of you guys, they're here because of you guys, > everybody's here because you made this happen. the local news didn't make > it happen. rolling stone magazine didn't make it happen and mtv didn't > make it happen. it was you guys who made it happen and you gotta > realise...you gotta realise you're a power. if anybody tells you that you > can't buy something or you can't read something or you can't hear > something or you can't say something you gotta fight and you gotta kick > ass and make sure your fuckin' will is known. this is a song dedicated to > that feeling. this is called cop killer by a band called bodycount... > > before the "fuck the police" bridge: " remember that you're not > singing about wanting to kill somebody. you're just singing for your > rights..." > > after the bridge: "...well, it's midnight and you're coming home > from some late night refreshment and your hair is too long or your skin is > too black, and so they make you in your beat up old car...and they pull > you over and they start infringing on your rights as an american, the > rights that you pay taxes for, the rights that you live for, the rights > that you hopefully fuckin' vote for...those donut-eating, too much coffee > drinkin', too quick on the trigger mother fuckers - fuck the police..." > > I hope that serves as a good intro to the cd, toni. I would dub > it for you, but I have too much on my plate at the moment as it is. I think that this is a good cd too. The sound isn't the bast, and it isn't really long, but it's good. Just to let you know, I bought mine for $14.00 used. - Marie ------------------------------ From: SJordet@aol.com Subject: JCP, CCvsBC, I'll get straight to the point today: I am DYING to see the Jesus Christ Pose video!!!! I've tried to get it off my computer, but I don't have something it requires, bla bla bla. I know basically *nothing* about computers, except that they're expensive and a pain in the ass. But it's all worth it, right??? ;) I would be *eternally* greatful to anyone who could somehow get me a copy of this masterpiece. Now I'll wander a bit: ;) About the Billy Corgan/Chris crap that's floating around - I'll have to say that the both of them have NOTHING on Ben!! I think that this thread is getting *very* dull and annoying. Let's face it guys - there're three sides you can be on: 1. Chris' (yeah!) 2. Billy's 3. Don't care. Everyone here is basically saying the same thing in different words. While I am *not* saying that everyone's opinions are not important, I *am* saying that we could put our opinions to a better use than beating the crap out of an old thread. *While* I am saying this - remember that it's also just *my* opinion. Now that I have probably miffed quite a few people, and confused a few more, I will go plug in Motorvision and fast forward, pause, and rewind to all of the spots where Ben's small, hard ass makes cameo apperances across my screen. =) Benlover ------------------------------ From: Fiona Thiessen Subject: Re: DOTU **someone was interested in the naming of DOTU??****** In a radio interview Chris C did whilst in Melbourne, (that I am in the process of sending to Seth) he talks a little about the naming of DOTU. I'll try to complete it soon b/c it gets real strange and interesting towards the end!! - Shroom, only been on this list a while, but I can guarantee you'll love it ;) Fiona ------------------------------ From: Wyn >From: me >Subject: Snakes, dogs, and band names. >I recently looked at the top 20 singles chart, and came upon a band that >goes by the name "Savage Garden" there single is at number 16. Does any >one know anything about this band. This is the second band I have noticed >that have, garden in there name, the other was "Mirror Garden". So much >for catchy band names these days. Anyways that isnt what I wanted to post >about. Dogs, river's, mother, jesus, snakes,and fire. what do all of >theese things have in common? They are things that often appear in >SoundGarden songs, mainly the songs that Chris writes. Hmmm.... Feel free >to elaborate on this subject. Till next time... > >------------------------------ > >From: Stella Rogers >Subject: Re: Snakes, dogs, and band names. >On Thu, 6 Mar 1997, me wrote: > >> I recently looked at the top 20 singles chart, and came upon a band that >> goes by the name "Savage Garden" there single is at number 16. Does any >> one know anything about this band. > >I've heard this band before. They have a song that gets constant radio >play where I live. They're nothing like Soundgarden. They're just another >Euro-pop dance band. When I saw this I just had to reply, Savage Garden, I too have made the mistake of thinking that they were really cool with a name which is associated with an Ann Rice novel, I thought they may have been a bit Goth perhaps or maybe a bit like Soundgarden. But alas neither is true they are a pop band in the most uncool way and they are not Euro-pop they are in fact an Australian band from the city I live in (shame) Brisbane. I actually came across them because a friend of mine was asked to find the single by this band Savage garden by her brother (I should have known since who really wants the single of a cool band when you could get the album). I'd just like to clarify that quite a few really cool bands do come from Brisbane including: The Saints, Regurgitator, Custard, Powderfinger, Pangaea & Melniks I just thought I'd clarify that so that others are not mistaken as I was. Bronwyn. ------------------------------ From: Mandy Crook Subject: Savage Garden On Thu, 6 Mar 1997, me wrote: > I recently looked at the top 20 singles chart, and came upon a band that > goes by the name "Savage Garden" there single is at number 16. Does any > one know anything about this band. Savage Garden are getting airplay in America??? My god! Savage Garden are an Australian band from Brisbane, very poppy and nothing like Soundgarden. Nice to see an Oz band getting some air play though. Cheers Mandy ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 3 Issue 63] ***************************************