From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Thursday, 6 Mar 1997 (READ BELOW) Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 01:25:42 EST Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Thursday, 6 Mar 1997 *** The digest that I just sent out moments ago is also labeled March *** 6, but that one was actually for yesterday. Sorry for the *** mix-up. Just think of today as a special, two-digest day. -seth listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: drowned in shark fins... Re: In Concert Re: firing a loaded mental cannon to the page firing a loaded mental cannon to the page Re: SG bootleg dilemma bootlegs SG Re: bootlegs on the subject of lyrics.... thoughts, questions, and other things that clutter your brain Re: thoughts firing a loaded mental cannon to the page (cont'd) Re: bootlegs music and lyrics Cameron Crowe's diary Step into my superunknown the music not just the lyrics Re: bootlegs Re: bootlegs Re: SG Rocktoon! Re: thoughts, questions, and other things that clutter your brain so sorry, everyone! Keep your pants on... unless your name is Chris... ;-) Chris MuhAhHaHAhaHaHaHaHAHahaHa!!! SOUNDGARDELICIOUS ROCKTOONS!!! RE: the downside of the digest......no, the downside of the whole list New Member ------------------------------------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: drowned in shark fins... On Tue, 4 Mar 1997, caryn rose wrote: > but... having said that, i made a conscious decision last year to *stop* > buying cd bootlegs, and instead to focus on tape trading. tape trading of > live shows is different in my mind because there is no money changing hands. > it's not paying $30 and up to someone *else*. well, despite the lack of traders here on somms, perhaps some wonderful lister has a copy of the boot entitled _push_ and would be willing to tape it for me? I recently went into the record exchange here in brisbane and saw said bootleg under the glass. I took a look at it and asked the guy behind the counter how much it was. he said "$45", which I thought was reasonable for a double cd, but then he turns to some other guy after noting that it is in fact a double cd and asks him for backup. the guy goes "no, that's *$90*"! so if anyone wants to send me $90 worth of soundgarden music, I'd be glad to either trade or send tapes. once it's here (and I'm hoping it does), I'll circulate it around to any australian listers who want it. ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide words by kim thayil ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Rajan V Vohra Subject: Re: In Concert Pamilyn is right thta stuff messes with your body. Tobacco took a good friend of mine. It is a killer. TOBACCA SUCKS! On Tue, 4 Mar 1997 Pamilyn1@aol.com wrote: > Geesh, I almost hate to say this, i never wanted my working life to seep into > this part of my life, but.................. I am a Tobacco Educator, this > will be the ONLY time I ever post this, Chewing Tobacco kills faster, and it > causes horrible face deformities, and mouth and throat cancer. Please don't > anyone think it is a safe alternative to smoking, it's worse, and if any of > you do talk to Chris, tell him, although I am sure it is the last thing he > would want to hear( or listen too). We wouldn't want to see Chris with no > jaw and tounge, would we??? Sorry to preach, please forgive me. > > ~Pamilyn > ------------------------------ From: Tiffany Saint Subject: Re: firing a loaded mental cannon to the page On Wed, 5 Mar 1997, merlin/Lorraine wrote: > Instead of criticizing someone for saying that they think CC, or > whoever, is the "greatest", how bout we ask them *why* they think > so, and then offer our opinions on the matter, if we should have > them. I think this is an excellent suggestion. How can you judge someone's evaluation if you don't know what the criteria behind their evaluation is? For example, when I am trying to determine the esthetic impact of a song, I try to determine the extent to which the song stirs my emotions. If the song succeeds in evoking strong emotions in me, then I may say it is an esthetically pleasing song. Even if the emotions are negative emotions, I enjoy having them stirred up. The lyrics and sound of Mind Riot always remind me of painful events from my past. Thus, I think that Mind Riot is an esthetically pleasing song. My criteria for poetry is something like this: deliberate and precise use of language to convey a message and/or evoke an emotion. Poetry is distinguishable from prose in that the language of prose is not as precisely controlled as the language of poetry. I believe that many song lyrics qualifiy as poetry, given this definition. Other people may have other definitions of poetry that would preclude rock lyrics from being called poetry. Some definitions of poetry require meter and rhyme, for example. I don't happen to define poetry that way. I think that most of the Soundgarden lyrics I have heard qualify as poetry, but I doubt the band gives a shit what I call it. Thanks for listening, Tiffany - ----- Experimental Media Research Laboratory, Northern California For more Information, http://emrl.com or email INFO@EMRL.COM. ------------------------------ From: merlin Subject: firing a loaded mental cannon to the page >>CC is *the* greatest & most poetic writer to have ever graced the >>music or literary scene in this century or any other >i think your statement about him being *the* greatest ever is just as >misinformed as the "corgan" statement was stupid..... >is CC one of the best? time will tell >is he the greatest ever? please, learn to be objective. If Lance thinks CC is the greatest ever, that's his prerogative, his right, his *opinion*. It has nothing to do w/ being "misinformed." I remember something that happened last year in school which *really* pissed me off, and ended up starting a big debate. We were in the middle of... I think it was "Hamlet" (I forget now) in english. But anyway, we were discussing "great works of literature", and I remember some kid saying he considered Stephen King one of the greatest writers of all time. The teacher acted like he was some kind of a moron. What! What absolute rubbish! How could any intelligent person *possibly* think that?! Stephen King hasn't stood the test of time! And he probably won't! He's not in textbooks! This, of course, got me out of sorts, and I made it very clear that I disagreed. That was the onset of a debate which lasted days. My point is, "greatest" works of literature, poetry, anything, are all a matter of personal opinion. Time and textbooks have nothing to do w/ it. Instead of criticizing someone for saying that they think CC, or whoever, is the "greatest", how bout we ask them *why* they think so, and then offer our opinions on the matter, if we should have them. >people look for too much validation from others to prove that their >views on songs are 'correct.' a lot of us are secure in our >interpretation of the song not to question any further. Another thing that pisses me off. I love discussing songs and their meaning w/ people... it's something I can sit & talk about for hours & hours. But I remember a few years ago, when BHS came out, and I was watching the video, and my mom comes in and asks, "I hear that song on the radio all the time... what are they talking about?" And I was like "mom, if you're really interested, why don't you just listen to the words and figure it out for yourself." "Well it must mean something. But it doesn't make sense. They just keep saying 'black hole sun, won't you come' over and over... is it about sex?" Now, this incident was one of the many things that prompted me to later ask if I was adopted, and hope that the answer was "yes." It wasn't. But stranger things have happened. >for a lot of SG's songs it's the music which gets me rockin and >keeps me buying records Of course the first thing you think about when you hear a song for the first time is the music. That's what initially grabs you. It's not likely that if you don't like the music, the lyrics are going to change your mind about the song... It's *really* late. I'm falling asleep. To be continued... ~Lorraine Nothing seems to break me no matter how far I fall nothing can break me at all. . . ------------------------------ From: Mercyhurst Prep Library Subject: Re: SG bootleg dilemma Hey, here's my 2 cents worth on bootlegs. I love live video and used to trade heavily for PJ and Sg and YES stuff. Well, the Sg stuff is actually the bastion of my friend Lin, but I can say she traded for most of what she has and has only bought a few things. She also traded alot for live audio. I do not mean bootleg CDs--those things are a pure rip off! You can get the same qulaity when you trade on cassettes. I've said it in the past so I'll say it again... Go to a big bookstore and see if they carry a traders newspaper called Goldmine. Goldmine carries classified ads full of people who want to do trades of live shows. And by live shows I mean stuff people have taped themselves, not the crappy quality CDboots people pay huge prices for. If it's on CD it was on a tape first! So what if nearly every show or alot of shows are on CDboots....you're paying too much for them, people!!!! No way is a live show worth $50 simply b/c it's on CD!!! Now when it comes to rare stuff, like let's say unreleased, studio demos and stuff...well, I have a dilemma there b/c I know from Sg and PJ and other bands that sometimes stuff that was never meant to reach the public has gotten into the wrong hands and those wrong hands in turn sold it to some rip-off artist who makes it into CDs and sells it for a massive profit. That's something I have a problem with! What...it costs like $2 to make a CD and they get sold for $40-$60??? Where's the justice in that? So I find Cd bootlegs a huge rip-off and still am of the opinion that if you get into the trading circuit you'll find the same shows, maybe even better quality, and most likely even more shows than are on CD!!!! I don't own any CD boots and I've been trading stuff (for various bands) since 1985! I'd be interested in hearing everyone else's take on this stuff! ciao....deb At 05:40 PM 3/4/97 -0600, you wrote: > >How do you guys feel about getting SG bootlegs? I have been presented >the opportunity to buy one but I don't know if it would be right or not. >On one hand, SG gets no profits from them yet it is their music being >sold. On the other hand, when Chris drives around in one his Porsches >does he really give a fuck if some guy in Texas buys Fresh Deadly >Rarities or not? What do you all think. > >-Trung > ------------------------------ From: "Matt Cameron" Subject: bootlegs hi alll i have a question i`m planning to buy a cd of soundgarden live so i want to ask what are the best soundgarden`s live shows from superunknown and DOTUS? - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ------------ BEWARE: You have just been e-mail from Matt Cameron You may Replay this mail to:stimpy1@netvision.net.il - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ------------ ------------------------------ From: KENNY BECKWITH <"beckwith@gte.net"@gte.net> Subject: SG Hello everyone... Well I haven't posted i a while, alot of things have been happening which seems all bad. Yall are all probley dyeing to hear why my life at this moment sucks, so I will tell you. First problem. I am 16 years old and over the last two weeks I have aquired a boy friend. My dad thinks I am to young but with the help of my step mom he was warming to the idea. I am thinking everything is going ok and with a little time he will be completly ok with it. I was wrong. My boy friend(Jeremy) being the dumb ass that he is came to my house at 2:30am knocking on my window. My dad caught him and now my dad says I can't ever see him again. I think that my dad is totally over reacting. I am not saying don't punish us, but cutting us off from each other is wrong. If my dad doesn't want me to see him there is no way I can get around it since we don't go to the same school and the only time I got to see him in the first place is when he comes to visit his mom on the weekends. To all you dads out there. Would you do the same thing if you were in my dads position? And how should I handle it? Not say anything or confront my father? I am at a lose. HELP... Second problem. Today my dad was admitted into the hospital because he has been having heart trouble. They ran some test including a cardio cath. and found two of his arteries are midly blocked. This really sucks. All of you adults are probly saying you wish your troubles were so trivial. But dammit to me these are big problems. Now I know that the Corgan/Cornell comparison has been ran into the ground but I have to say my *opinion*. The following statement is a opinion and should be treated as such...In my *opinion* Chris is the superior writer. But since I am a person with no musical talent what so ever I greatly respect any one with any. Maybe not any one. I don't think you have to have talent to talk fast and use ebonics.(rap)Once again this is my humble *opinion*. And I am not a SP fan so immediatly I will take SG side. ------------------------------ From: Orko Subject: Re: bootlegs Here is what I think about the bootleg issue.... sure soundgarden doesnt make any money, but they also didnt have to take the time to record or anything like that. They were going to play that show regardless, so the guy who took the time to record it is the only guy who spent any time on it. Orko ------------------------------ From: "Lori S. Bingel" Subject: on the subject of lyrics.... I wanted also to respond to a few things I have been reading over the past few days: 1. "personal" as describing a song is exactly that - PERSONAL. What I consider personal to me is infinitely more different than what another person would consider. Seal once said something about why he didn't print lyris in the sleeve of his 2nd CD - because his lyrics mean one thing to him and that they will mean something else to every individual who listens to his music. He'd rather leave it for people to decide what they can relate in their realm of experience. I think the degree of that is going to be different for everybody and so you can't really make a true statement about what is truly personal and what is not. It all depends on the individual. 2. I am also more drawn to the music itself initially, and not the lyrics. I think a lot of this has to do with the fact that I am an instrumentalist and not a vocalist, and that I study classical and jazz music - I'm a lot more prone to listen to cool sounding melodic fragments or a killer groove or drum fill. This may appear as sacrilige but there are not many Soundgarden songs that I have the lyrics committed to memory. I think also that combinations of music and lyrics can mean different things to different people. How many times have you thought that one of Chris' lyrics was one thing and then checked out the lyrics section of seth's page and thought, "ohhhh! so that's how it goes" My $.02. lori ------------------------------ From: Aferdity@aol.com Subject: thoughts, questions, and other things that clutter your brain Okay, well I guess I'll start with my question: on The Garden Grows, what in the hell is Chris saying on Spoonman when he's supposed to be saying "come on, we like it all". It sounds like to me, that he's saying "come on and suck me all". I feel that I'm way off here (plus it's probably that hootchie part of me that heard it anyway). Please, let me know if you have a clue!! Next, my thought: Well, on the stretch of road (I-10) that I drive to and from school everyday, I usually see a lot of limos coming to and from the casinos (I guess that is where they're coming from). Well, the day before yesterday I thought to myself, "Where are all the limos?" And then I thought, "Wouldn't it be so weird to come up on a two or three limo pile up in a ditch somewhere." Then the song Limo Wreck came on and I almost ran off the road. Imagine trying to explain to your parents how you wrecked your car with that excuse. Anyway, I remember reading somewhere (I think) that this is sort of what Chris had in mind when he wrote the song. Am I wrong? I just thought that was a really weird coinsedence. Last but not least, the things that clutter your brain: I was listening to the interview on the Pretty Noose single (thanks Scott) and I heard them saying something about the title for the album and then something about Matt wanting to call it Mr. Bunchy Pants. Okay, I wanted to know if ya'll would have thought them crazy for calling their album this (HAHA). So unlike them!!! Also I wanted to know if ya'll have ever thought of any other titles that they should have called any one of their albums. Do ya understand what I'm asking??? Probably not!! Last thing (I promise): Happy Birthday to Shroom!!!! ~<|:) (put your party hats on)!!! Sorry to carry on the way I did!! Take care and be sweet!! Stay Cool, Kelly :) ------------------------------ From: Vince Varkey Subject: Re: thoughts On Wed, 5 Mar 1997 Aferdity@aol.com wrote: > Okay, well I guess I'll start with my question: on The Garden Grows, what in > the hell is Chris saying on Spoonman when he's supposed to be saying "come > on, we like it all". It sounds like to me, that he's saying "come on and > suck me all". I feel that I'm way off here (plus it's probably that hootchie > part of me that heard it anyway). Please, let me know if you have a clue!! He's saying "Come on, like it all"..and since we are talking about Spoonman, let me just say that to anyone who hasn't checked out Seth's site in a few days, the new Song of the Month is up and it is Spoonman, to celebrate the release of Soundgarden's best album ever, Superunknown. It was released 3 years ago this month. Three years. Unreal. Speaking of Spoonman, what do you all think of the Steve Fisk remix of the song? > Next, my thought: Well, on the stretch of road (I-10) that I drive to and > from school everyday, I usually see a lot of limos coming to and from the > casinos (I guess that is where they're coming from). Well, the day before > yesterday I thought to myself, "Where are all the limos?" And then I > thought, "Wouldn't it be so weird to come up on a two or three limo pile up > in a ditch somewhere." Anyway, I remember reading somewhere (I think) > that this is sort of what Chris had in mind when he wrote the song. Am > I wrong? Yeah I think I remember reading about how he got the idea when he was on one of the highways in Los Angeles. > I was listening to the interview on the Pretty Noose single (thanks > Scott) and I heard them saying something about the title for the album > and then something about Matt wanting to call it Mr. Bunchy Pants. Okay, > I wanted to know if ya'll would have thought them crazy for calling their > album this. So unlike them!!! Hell, why not Mr. Bunchypants? I mean, some people think Down On the Upside is so unlike them so why not : ) - -vince ------------------------------ From: merlin Subject: firing a loaded mental cannon to the page (cont'd) I was saying before that of course the music is just as important as the lyrics. Music can convey just as much emotion as words can, sometimes more. Some of my all-time favorite works are musical compositions w/out any words. Zoltan Kodaly, Aaron Copland, and esp Glenn Miller are some of the most brilliant artists ever, imo. I guess it's b/c I've always used words more than anything else to get rid of anger, pain, etc, that the words of others strike such a chord w/ me and I feel such an affinity to their writers. It could just be coincidence that w/ most of my favorite songs, the lyrics and music mean equally as much to me. Or it could be that the writers are so talented they were able to pair lyrics and music that are both incredibly amazing and fit perfectly together. >i think that most SG lyrics i have heard qualify as poetry..... So do I. And Shakespeare & Marlowe have got nothing on Chris Cornell. ;-) ~Lorraine Nothing seems to break me no matter how far I fall nothing can break me at all. . . ------------------------------ From: Orko Subject: Re: bootlegs On Wed, 5 Mar 1997, Taylor Holmes wrote: > Orko wrote: > > > > sure soundgarden doesnt make any money, but they also didnt have to > > take the time to record or anything like that. > > Yeah, they only took the time to write, create, arrange, tour, and play > their music... but that probably doesn't count for anything, huh? THey wrote the music to put onto albums that they make a lot of money off of... they tour to sell more albums and tshirts and crap like that... I am not saying that that isnt a lot of work and im not even saying they dont deserve royalties for publishing rights. But bootlegs are a way to get different music out to your fans and generate perhaps more of a fan following. Orko ------------------------------ From: Anders Nergaard Subject: music and lyrics >Subject: Re: safely held beneath the waves... >From: seth > >Mr. Dunn wrote: > >> For a lot of >> Soundgarden's songs it's the music (the acutal music, which we really >> haven't talked about yet) which gets me rockin' and keeps me buying >> records. And I'm very picky... even though the music will rock me without >> the emotion of the lyrics I'm just not totally 'there'. > >These are my sentiments exactly (except for the part about not being >'there'). When I listen to Soundgarden's songs, I almost never pay any >attention to the lyrics. It's the overall feel of the music that hits >me. Take a song like Flower, for example. The lyrics are so buried >beneath the music that while I'm aware there's a vocal line, and even >though several years after first hearing them I now know what the >words are, they just blend with everything else. Yet I can listen to >that song over and over and love it every time. > >My roommate and I listen to Badmotorfinger all the time and we just >shake our heads and say "I can't believe how fucking good this is." >But we never once talk about the lyrics. We always talk about the >music and the overall effect of the song. The end of Rusty Cage. The >opening crunch of Outshined and Room A Thousand Years Wide. The riff >and scream in New Damage. Slaves & Bulldozers and Jesus Christ Pose in >their overwhelming entirety. > >I do not agree that Chris is unconditionally a poet or even a great >lyricist (um, "eat the fruit and kiss the snake goodnight"?), but what >he *is* good at is choosing words that fit the music and singing them >in the right way (or at least he was good at it in the past; no, I >don't like DOTU). I know that a favorite line among list members is >"I'm luck's last match struck/In the pouring down wind." The only part >of this line I ever hear is "pouring down wind," because the way he >sings the words fits the music perfectly. Separated from the music, >the words don't affect me at all. > Seth: I'll leave it up to you, if you want to include this one in the Digest... Of course, I agree with Seth, but more with Mr. Dunn. The way SG's music and lyrics are knitted together so tightly, (sometimes) almost indistinguishable from one-another, is sort of one of their trademarks. But for me it doesn't really matter that much how good the music is; if the lyric suck, the 'feeling' just isn't there. I find that it's the lyrics that distinguish SG from the mainstreem rock'n roll bands (well, I admit, it's not just that). And as for the phrase: "eat the fruit and kiss this snake goodnight", it's obviously a reference to the primal sin. For further information regarding this topic, you should check out the article written by Neil Strauss at: www.tri-cityherald.com/music/rock2.htm The site may be 'down' (quite some time since I read the article), but if you want, I can mail it to you. Andy "Fill Your Head With Crazy Sounds" ------------------------------ From: me Subject: Cameron Crowe's diary I was just wondering how come they never show the bass players face in the scene were soundgarden are playing birth ritual? That aside I also found an october 1st 1992 issue of rolling stone that has Cameron Crowe's singles diary. Here is a Soundgarden related entry: 1-1-92, Soundgardens Chris Cornell sends in a rich collection of music. This movie takes music like a sponge. For me, Cornell is the very soul of seattle music and itrs endearing darkness. I remeber him the night Andy Wood died. He put his hand on Jeff Aments shoulder. "I'm going to call you tomorrow," Cornell said angry at the world. "Were gonna ride bikes and fucking smoke cigarettes." Its an odd moment to remember so clearly. Something about it just nailed this city. Just thought I would share this with you guys. One more thing the first song that Chris ever sent to Cameron Crowe was Jesus Christ Pose. Okay thats all, gooday ------------------------------ From: Moonsta693@aol.com Subject: Step into my superunknown Ok, let's move into the facts. 1. in my opinion, Chris is a deep songwriter(hell, I should know), and so is Billy. How can anyone really say who is deeper? How can you really measure how deep a guy's soul is? the thing is not how deep YOU think it is, but how YOU relate to it. 2. Ben. Ben. Ben. What can I say about Ben. The inside joke of me getting married to Ben(Very long story), but Ben is Ben, so stop criticizing him! 3. The fork. I know about the thing with Shannon(god rest his soul), but why is there such a bubble about the fork? Was there somehting I missed? Chris did stop wearing it after Shannon died, and the one with the stone in the middle is of (I think..If I remember clearly)a goddess....I forget exaclty what it is called though. 4. Shroomy, welcome back, I kept your seat warm for you. I also have a picture of Chris I know you'll love, even though it isn't Chris in his birthday suit....too bad I don't have a scanner though. I have it right over the top of my bedhead. Did anyone tape the grammy pre-show on MTV? Does anyone know where to pick up the Inflatable Soule CD? Get back to me on this one, there's something really important on that Cd. "Walk and you'll find the garden full of singing, happy souls" the original pretty noose (the outkast) ------------------------------ From: "BRONWYN J. KELLY" Subject: the music not just the lyrics I have to say that I agree with Seth, I rarely even hear the lyrics in most songs it's the way it's sung that gets me also the music. A fine example of this is Rusty Cage it took Johnny Cash for most people to hear the lyrics I think mainly because with soundgarden your to busy listing to the whole to deconstruct it to find the lyrics. Oh could someone please give me a physical discription of this fork because I've never seen it and I'd like to know what it's importance is. Bronwyn ------------------------------ From: Taylor Holmes Subject: Re: bootlegs Orko wrote: > > sure soundgarden doesnt make any money, but they also didnt have to > take the time to record or anything like that. Yeah, they only took the time to write, create, arrange, tour, and play their music... but that probably doesn't count for anything, huh? Anyway, the bootlegging issue as it relates to SG is another issue that provokes many different points of view. The most idealistic and pure views are those held by Steve Russell, Caryn, and the like. It takes a lot of fortitude to take stands such as these. Although I agree with a lot of the idealistic view, I'm not prepared to say that I will never buy bootlegs. If I have the opportunity to get a few new songs or a quality show, then I will take it. In my view, there is a clear difference between rip off's and reasonable deals. I happen to believe that MOSH's deal is reasonable in that for a relatively small price, I will receive a quality product within the same week that I ordered it. I will always pay more to receive quality goods and services in a timely manner, rather than wait to possibly get it free... after all time = money... that's just the way I see it... and that's the essence of a free market. Anyway, It's great to see people with strong ideals and beliefs on these confusing issues, as long as their ideals are not forced on others. Just because we believe something is right does'nt make it *objectively* right. Later, Taylor - -"maybe someone should create a member directory and put it on the web page so newbies could get to know people before they post" - me as a newbie, not knowing it already existed, looking like an ass... ;) - -- D. Taylor Holmes Senior Quality Assurance Analyst, Automated Test Coordinator Datastream Systems Software, Inc. home: holmest@netdepot.com work: holmest@dstm.com ------------------------------ From: Caryn Rose Subject: Re: bootlegs On Wed, 5 Mar 1997, Orko wrote: > On Wed, 5 Mar 1997, Taylor Holmes wrote: > > > Orko wrote: > > > > > > sure soundgarden doesnt make any money, but they also didnt have to > > > take the time to record or anything like that. > > > > Yeah, they only took the time to write, create, arrange, tour, and play > > their music... but that probably doesn't count for anything, huh? > > THey wrote the music to put onto albums that they make a lot of money off > of... they tour to sell more albums and tshirts and crap like that... I am > not saying that that isnt a lot of work and im not even saying they dont > deserve royalties for publishing rights. But bootlegs are a way to get > different music out to your fans and generate perhaps more of a fan > following. live tapes do EXACTLY the same thing, as well as help create a community amongst fans, while not PROFITING a piece of low-life scum like a bootlegger. no one else is entitled to make any money off of soundgarden's music besides soundgarden. period. and they are entitled to make as much money as they fucking want to -- it's THEIR MUSIC. - --caryn ------------------------------ From: Dean Brandt Subject: Re: SG Rocktoon! At 21:08 4/03/97 -0800, java4u@sos.net wrote: >There's a rocktoon website! There are tons of different rocktoons, one is >even for SG! And...ummm...the URL is? :) Thanks, Dean +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ Dean Brandt ph: +61-8-82673114 IGM fax: +61-8-82673143 internet services manager integration - design - www mob: 0414-254-988 Adelaide, South Australia. +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ From: Taylor Holmes Subject: Re: thoughts, questions, and other things that clutter your brain Aferdity@aol.com wrote: > Also I wanted to know if ya'll have ever thought of any other > titles that they should have called any one of their albums. I was always partial to 'Louder than Fuck'. ;-) Later, Taylor - -- D. Taylor Holmes Senior Quality Assurance Analyst, Automated Test Coordinator Datastream Systems Software, Inc. home: holmest@netdepot.com work: holmest@dstm.com ------------------------------ From: LoudLoveCC@aol.com Subject: so sorry, everyone! Keep your pants on... unless your name is Chris... ;-) To everyone who wants Fortissimo.... I'm working on it! No, it isn't free... I live on min. wage!! But, I'm not trying to get a profit out of this... I bought it, 'cause I knew somebody would want it.... I'll be taking care of it in the days to come... Don't worry.... I'm working on it!! love, lissa aka lazy bum w/ too much stuff to do! =) ------------------------------ From: spierce@mpls.k12.mn.us (Sandy Pierce) Subject: Chris i just finished a multi genre research paper i did on chris cornell (i titled it- Entering a Screaming Life) and i just wanted to share a sonnet i wrote becuase i think it's cute. Chris Cornell has a wonderful voice He uses it every night on stage He smokes, and it's gross, but it's his choice He looks so much younger than his age His lyrics express some deep, dark feelings The music he writes means so much to me I see many different colors in things When i see him play guitar and sing on t.v. He makes up a fourth of a really cool band The other three members are kim, matt and ben Just one terrific song of his is Burden in my Hand I saw them in concert and would love to again Chris Cornell is an absolutely beautiful man One day I'll meet him, that's a good plan ta-da! how do you like it? i also wrote some haikus (even though haikus are supposed to be about nature) and one i thought was exceptionally clever was: Down on the Upside, Ultramega O.K. in the Superunknown i had fun doing this project, if you ever need to do a project on a person go the soundgarden route, they provide great subjects! in all i wrote four haikus, the sonnet, a letter from chris to susan, a story from chris's point of view, a letter from me to chris, a non-fiction story about when i saw SG in concert, a poem, and a eulogy for chris (it was hard to imagine him dying, but i needed another genre), oh, and i made a concert poster and a portrait of chris. i think it ended up a good looking project. that's all, amanda ------------------------------ From: ShRooMGrLz@aol.com Subject: MuhAhHaHAhaHaHaHaHAHahaHa!!! Well, I've finally finished my "Eddie Vedder is a Vampire" web page. It sucks (pun intended)... but I've got one hell of a cold. I've dedicated = this page to Caryn because she's such a groovy person, and I really appreciate what a great friend she's been to me. Here's the URL... I haven't linked= it to my SiCA page yet: http://members.aol.com/shroomgrlz/edvamp.html And YES, this *is* Soundgarden related. You'll have to check out the pag= e to find out why, though. Anyway... I haven't read the list mail yet today, = so I'll be back later. Have I mentioned that COLDS SUCK?!? Shroomus "You think I've got my eyes closed, but I'm looking at you the whole fuck= ing time." ~ Eddie Vedder (That's vampire-speak if I've ever heard it.) "Caryn, I've been having a hell of a time trying to videotape myself in t= he shower... I keep getting the cameras wet and ruining them. I don't suppo= se you could give me a... hand with this?" ~ Eddie Vedder (Words not necessarily said in that order...) <~~~ my disclaimer Shroom Girl, Inc. =99 '96 ------------------------------ From: CL Miller Subject: SOUNDGARDELICIOUS Hi there kiddies! Superfantastic news! I got my "Burden In My Hand" 45 single on white vinyl and my "Blow Up the Outside World" 45 single on green vinyl today. I was giddy as a schoolboy at summer vacation! BTW, does anyone have tab for Fluttergirl? Love you all! Chris - -- Check out my store's site!! http://www.MovieStop.com/ CD favorite Live: Secret Samahdi ------------------------------ From: java4u@sos.net Subject: ROCKTOONS!!! To everyone wondering about the rocktoons!!! Sorry, I didn't write the URL on my post when I sent it in. Silly me! You can find the rocktoons website at: www.crl.com:80/"tyman/rocktoons. The only picture I found of them so far was the one with the standing in a garden. You'll get a kick out of it! Write me, and tell me what you think! Later, Rachel Peace, Love, & Empathy ------------------------------ From: Carolyn Hanel Subject: RE: the downside of the digest......no, the downside of the whole list Slave4cc wrote: >>Susan---woe to anyone who calls her a bitch. She is revered and = respected heavily on this list..although me personally would sleep with Chris in a heartbeat, married or not (now that will piss some people off). Damn right it will! :-[ I would say having to read trash like that is = the downside of this mailing list (oh - sorry, what I should say is = having to read what *I believe* is trash.....mustn't attack people, must = we - only their argument). Susan is obviously NOT revered and respected = by you, or you would never dream of hurting her in such a way. You know = what? I hope that one day when you are married (if not already), some = girl chases after YOUR husband and "sleeps with him in a heartbeat". = Only then could you know the devastation and heartache that is caused by = people wanting someone who is already married......... Yes, it's me. Someone who simply loves Soundgarden for being a band = that produces good music, Carolyn the Mean Frump I've a suggestion to keep you all occupied......Tool ------------------------------ From: sanity@box.satech.net.au Subject: New Member Hi Sommesters, I've been on this list for about 2 weeks,I think its fucking excellent its got stuff on it that I never wouldn't of known [i.e. Chris and Susan at the Grammys] about the fork I've got a poster with Chris wearing it [I wish I had one :)] I heard something on here that he doesn't wear it or something this poster is from 95 and its got the outside spikes bent out and the middle spike has a black ball on it.On the Smashing Pumpkins, in Guitar Magazine there was an article on how SP were getting sick of using Guitars and wanted to try something different.I haven't heard the new song yet and If this guitar rumour is true I don't think I will like it much because all my Musical tastes are to do with Guitars.I play guitar myself and thats one of the main reasons why I like Soundgarden.The drumming on 1979 at the grammys sounded like crap,and this is because it was the same all the way through not even a little fill added. I am not the biggest SP fan I have seen them live on TV and I thought it was excellent but now I am becoming less interested in them.Oh well sorry to blab on about SP anyway my Fav bands are Soundgarden [duh! :)] , Pearl Jam ,The Tea Party,Green River , Mother Love Bone,RHCP,TOTD and the legendary Jimi Hendrix.I'm sorry this was so long and if anyone wants to flame me about this post please send E-mail to: sanity@satech.net.au I don't want to flood the list with arguments. Anyway thank you seth for creating such an excellent list. bye http://www.satech.net.au/~sanity/tabs.htm http://www.satech.net.au/~sanity/pearljam.htm - ---------------------------------------------- Everyone is against me!!! Maybe caus i'm an idividual!!! ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 3 Issue 58] ***************************************