From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Sunday, 2 Mar 1997 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Sun, 02 Mar 1997 04:07:45 EST Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Sunday, 2 Mar 1997 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: Chris & Susan Re: SHIT!!!!!!!!!! Re: Grammy's/Inflatable Soule Re: Chris' Songs Hype! KERRANG! article Puberty Love New Soundgarden Video Re: New Soundgarden Video Re: Chris & Susan Re: Chris & Susan Re: Chris & Susan a soundgarden word play thing Re: Chris & Susan Re: Chris' Songs Re: Chris & Susan March of Crimes circus of fun... song of the month Circus stuff I THINK CHRIS CORNELL IS THE BEST SINGER/SONGWRITER/MUSIC WRITER ON EARTH Re: circus of fun... Ben's sudden and disturbing departure from this planet... Re:THE FORK NECKLACE... ------------------------------------------------------------ From: mark filleman Subject: Chris & Susan First off-thanks to Deborah Baker & Toni for responding to my queries on Chris hitting on some girl & Inflatable Soule. I tried e-mailing both directly but my computer is a piece of shit and would'nt work right. Anyways, I feel much better after receiving so many responses concerning that girl who said Chris hit on her at some party. It's obviously not true-there is no way he would behave that way & no way Susan would tolerate it if it were true. I saw them together at the Grammy's-there's been entries to this digests in the past stating that Susan is somewhat unattractive & even ugly. I don't think she is a person who photographs particularly well but she looked realy pretty at the Grammy's and of course Chris looked great as usual. I'm off to Vegas for a week-hopefully Seth will have added some cool stuff to the site when I get back. Take care. Kristen F. (Mark is my husband-this is his e-mail address) ------------------------------ From: KAISERVRBL@aol.com Subject: Re: SHIT!!!!!!!!!! In a message dated 97-02-28 16:37:47 EST, Aferdity@aol.com writes: << Well, I've read all the posts about how fucked up the Grammy's were and I couldn't agree more. >> I told you all the Grammys were fucked when they were first nominated and you guys torched me! Do you believe me now? Lance "Now they run to hunt you down" ------------------------------ From: KAISERVRBL@aol.com Subject: Re: Grammy's/Inflatable Soule In a message dated 97-02-28 19:26:41 EST, bmwmark@hti.net (mark filleman) writes: << Does anybody know where " So Sad " by Inflatable Soule is available ? Any band that contains 3 Cornell siblings & is managed by Susan Silver has to be incredible. >> Just be warned, this album does kick ass. In fact its one of the best albums I've ever bought, BUT IT SOUNDS NOTHING LIKE SOUNDGARDEN!!!!!!!! It's very acoustic and VERY folksy. Lance ------------------------------ From: KAISERVRBL@aol.com Subject: Re: Chris' Songs << >Corgan's songs are far more personal than anything Cornell could >ever write. >> WHO THE HELL IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS DUMB ASS STATEMENT???? Chris Cornell is *THE* greatest and most poetic writer to have ever graced the music or literary scene in this century or any other. Anyone who thinks Billy whiny-ass Corgan even compares to CC knows absolutely nothing about writing! Lance "When the forest burns along the road like God's eyes in my headlights" Oh yeah, Billy could definately come up with something like this. Billy Corgan is exactly what Chris was writing about when he wrote Jesus Christ Pose. (& yes I know the above lyrics are from 'Rusty Cage') ------------------------------ From: Luck's Last Match Subject: Hype! I just realized the other day that inside the hype! soundtrack it says "You're town could be next" and considering my town is chapel hill, i found that a little scary, b/c mainstream mags like spin and rolling stone used to tout chapel hill as the "next seattle". Of course, they never went beyond archers of loaf and superchunk, but i guess that's beside the point. Wait, this is sposed to have something to do w/ sg...maybe archers of loaf are the SG of chapel hill, supechunk is the alice in chains, and squirrel nut zippers are the pearl jam....polvo for nirvana? i don't know. mike garrigan is the mark lanegan of chapel hill, most definitely. Ok, too much babbling. adios. -j "echelon your dreams and they'll come true...type slowly" -Pavement. ------------------------------ From: Rebekah Henderson Subject: KERRANG! article In the March 1st KERRANG! magazine, Chris talks about how every member of the band has been sued. We all know about Kim allegedly assaulting a fan and Chris tells about how Matt threw his snare drum up in the air and it bounced off the drum riser, rolled offstage and landed on some guy's shoulder, who in turn sued. I was wondering what Chris and Ben have been sued for?? Does anybody know? May Soundgarden be with you. Rebekah ------------------------------ From: SJordet@aol.com Subject: Puberty Love Okay, for all of those who suggested I try watching Attack of the Killer Tomatoes and not taking it seriously - I'll try again!!!!!! I must admit, though, that there are some *very* funny parts in it, and seeing the name "Foo" Cameron roll across the screen during the credits is damn amusing... I was thinking - if Matt's the owner of a pair of chicken thighs now, how skinny he was when he was fifteen? =) Am I really the only female person out there who finds Ben attractive...? Benlover ------------------------------ From: MOSH Subject: New Soundgarden Video If anybody is interested in THESE 2 Soundgarden videos, let me know. SOUNDGARDEN - Live At The Patriot Center In Fairfax, VA 11/21/96 - ------------------------------------------------------------------- Spoonman Searching With My Good Eye Closed Let Me Drown Pretty Noose Burden In My Hand My Wave I Want To Know Fell On Black Days Rusty Cage Black Hole Sun Outshined Blow Up The Outside World Drawing Flies Down On The Upside Kickstand Slaves And Bulldozers Jesus Christ Pose Gun (Live at The Whisky 1990) Hands All Over (Music Video) Loud Love (Music Video) Audience Recorded / 1 Hand-held Camera Length - 1 hour & 55 min. Price - $15 SOUNDGARDEN - Hello, We Are Soundgarden - ----------------------------------------- Searching With My Good Eye Closed (Live) Hands All Over (Live) Face Pollution (Live) Jesus Christ Pose (Live) Superunknown Spoonman Fell On Black Days The Day I Tried To Live My Wave Black Hole Sun Pretty Noose Temple Of The Dog - Hunger Strike Outshined Burden In My Hand Pretty Noose (Live On Saturday Night Live) Burden In My Hand (Live On Saturday Night Live) Outshined (Live from the Foundations Forum in 1991) MTV Interview with Soundgarden - phone-in questions from viewers Blow Up The Outside World All live performances from Paris, France on the Badmotorfinger World Tour (Professionaly shot / multi-cameras) Length - 1 hour & 34 min. Price - $15 ------------------------------ From: "Steven Russell Jr." Subject: Re: New Soundgarden Video At 02:31 PM 03/01/97 -0600, someone wrote: > >If anybody is interested in THESE 2 Soundgarden videos, let me know. > > >SOUNDGARDEN - Live At The Patriot Center In Fairfax, VA 11/21/96 >I Want To Know >Down On The Upside Why can't assholes like MOSH be a semi-fan and know the correct names of the songs? Jeez I wonder if he's ever heard a Soundgarden song that wasn't on the radio? You would think that he would at least own an album by a band he's ripping off. I mean you have to deal with lots of scumbags charging money for a booted show on video, tape or DAT. Sometimes that's the only way to get a show. Especially with a band like Soundgarden that doesn't have many boot traders. (/me waves to the 10 of you on this list) Some may say that he's providing a beneficial service since that's the only way to get SG boots. Ya know..that's sorta correct...but this guy is obviously not a fan. He is totally motivated by the dollar. He's stealing from the Poor to feed the Poor. A Robin Hood he is Not. You could be a Pearl Jam or Phish or Grateful Dead (etc.) boot collector and get every show they've ever done on tape or video for the price of blank tapes and postage...which is totally cool. All you need is patience...and NOT a 'gimme, gimme, gimme' childish attitude. Need a copy of a PJ show from 1996? Goto alt.music.pearljam and ask nicely and offer to pay for everything and have a decent 'tude and you'll find someone who has the *time* to do it for you. There are tonz of cool traders, even here, who will tape a show and circulate it cuz they are FANS and they just want everyone to have a chance to hear their fave band OR maybe they'll do it just to trade for more shows? We've had 2 or 3 video/audio trees on this list. But we don't have the volume of traders to give everyone a chance to own what's been released...which sucks. There is a risk being taken to get a SG show booted and I do think if you take the risk you should be rewarded. Management has choosen an anti-taping stance and has sometimes put metal detectors at the gates to stop taping. (Showbox)...That's fine for whatever reason they choose...but that attitude just creates worse conditions for the trading fans. Shows will be taped irregardless of the security measures. While the greed and allure of easy money will appeal to some of these tapers...there are others that have adopted the PJ and GD philosophy of sharing their work or just trading their work for more shows...what is wrong with that? Absolutely nothing. Maybe I'll give away FREE copies of this video to people who know the correct names of the songs in the set list. Hmmmm....watch this space when spring break starts :-) bring the noize, steve ------------------------------ From: Rita Bonofiglio Subject: Re: Chris & Susan On Sat, 1 Mar 1997, mark filleman wrote: > Anyways, I feel much better after receiving so many responses > concerning that girl who said Chris hit on her at some party. It's > obviously not true-there is no way he would behave that way & no way > Susan would tolerate it if it were true. I saw them together at the > Grammy's-there's been entries to this digests in the past stating that > Susan is somewhat unattractive & even ugly. hmmm, calling susan ugly now...well thats called jealousy...hey kristen f. i know *you* didn't say that, i'm directing it to those who did ! :-) I knew it wasn't chris in that story...the clincher was when she said he was wearing make up...just can't see that! Benlover asked if she was the only female who found ben shepherd attractive...NO! even though i'm a matt cameron girl myself, i find ben irrestible in that mean, dangerous sort of way...damn, listen to me gush..and all this time i thought the music was all that mattered! MY DEEPEST APOLOGIES TO ALL THE MEN ON THIS LIST WHO JUST HAD TO READ THAT USELESS INFORMATION! ;-) - -----rita b. ------------------------------ From: me Subject: Re: Chris & Susan Rita Bonofiglio wrote: > > On Sat, 1 Mar 1997, mark filleman wrote: > > > Anyways, I feel much better after receiving so many responses > > concerning that girl who said Chris hit on her at some party. It's > > obviously not true-there is no way he would behave that way & no way > > Susan would tolerate it if it were true. I saw them together at the > > Grammy's-there's been entries to this digests in the past stating that > > Susan is somewhat unattractive & even ugly. > I dunno in the oct 94 issue of request Susan looked pretty hot. Though the picture was from 92. Chris had long hair. Anyways Chris married her there has to be something there. ------------------------------ From: BdMtrFngr Subject: Re: Chris & Susan On Sat, 1 Mar 1997, Rita Bonofiglio wrote: > On Sat, 1 Mar 1997, mark filleman wrote: > > > Anyways, I feel much better after receiving so many responses > > concerning that girl who said Chris hit on her at some party. It's > > obviously not true-there is no way he would behave that way & no way > > Susan would tolerate it if it were true. I saw them together at the > > Grammy's-there's been entries to this digests in the past stating that > > Susan is somewhat unattractive & even ugly. > > > I dont't know if chris did hit on the girl, and truthfully i could care less, i try to just listen to the music....But, when did chris and other rockstars who are idolized become exempt from the temptations that other humans have. How could there be no way that he would behave like that? Chris is a great songwriter, performer, singer, etc...but, he is not a god. Kim is a god on the other hand. ------------------------------ From: me Subject: a soundgarden word play thing Screaming life becuase its ultramega okay and its louder than love so start your badmotorfinger and journey to the super unkown and you can be down on the upside. thank you. Gracias. ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: Re: Chris & Susan At 03:41 PM 3/1/97 -0800, me wrote: >> On Sat, 1 Mar 1997, mark filleman wrote: >> >> > Anyways, I feel much better after receiving so many responses >> > concerning that girl who said Chris hit on her at some party. It's >> > obviously not true-there is no way he would behave that way & no way >> > Susan would tolerate it if it were true. I saw them together at the >> > Grammy's-there's been entries to this digests in the past stating that >> > Susan is somewhat unattractive & even ugly. >> I dunno in the oct 94 issue of request Susan looked pretty hot. Though >the picture was from 92. Chris had long hair. Anyways Chris married her >there has to be something there. like, BRAINS and intelligence and a sense of humor and a lot of things in common, maybe??! it's like the people who trash beth liebling (eddie vedder's wife) as being "ugly". i happen to think she's attractive, and more importantly, it's NONE OF MY BUSINESS. jesus. if rock stars don't marry a supermodel some people just don't get it.... - --caryn ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: Re: Chris' Songs At 09:17 AM 3/1/97 -0500, KAISERVRBL@aol.com wrote: > > ><< >Corgan's songs are far more personal than anything Cornell could > >ever write. >> > >WHO THE HELL IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS DUMB ASS STATEMENT???? > >Chris Cornell is *THE* greatest and most poetic writer to have ever graced >the music or literary scene in this century or any other. Anyone who thinks >Billy whiny-ass Corgan even compares to CC knows absolutely nothing about >writing! um, lance -- ever heard of an *opinion*????????????? you're flaming someone you don't even know, who happens to be incredibly intelligent and insightful. you're flaming someone i have had long, involved discussions on song meaning for various artists, from pearl jam to the who to r.e.m., who comes up with insights into my favorite band's lyrics that i have never even CONSIDERED. you don't agree with him -- your priviledge. but i think this was uncalled for. and i personally happen to disagree with you strongly. chris cornell is a great writer, but hardly a poet. (than again, i don't think jim morrison was a poet either, even though it was his most fervent wish). eddie vedder is not a poet. michael stipe is not a poet. they all write songs that move us and touch us, yes. you happen to think he's the greatest writer, more power to you. i would disagree. i love his words and his insights and his perspectives, but they don't touch me the way some other lyricists do. with that statement, you write off some of the greatest artists this planet will ever know, such as pete townshend or patti smith, for example. however, i'm not going to tell you that your statement is "dumb ass" or insult you personally. it's your opinion; i respect it. i don't agree with it, but so what? - --caryn ------------------------------ From: Rita Bonofiglio Subject: Re: Chris & Susan On Sat, 1 Mar 1997, caryn rose wrote: > like, BRAINS and intelligence and a sense of humor and a lot of things in > common, maybe??! > it's like the people who trash beth liebling (eddie vedder's wife) as being > "ugly". i happen to think she's attractive, and more importantly, it's NONE > OF MY BUSINESS. jesus. if rock stars don't marry a supermodel some people > just don't get it.... > > --caryn > I think the fact that chris (and even eddie vedder) DID NOT marry supermodels, even though he damn well could if he wanted too, proves what a down to earth, level-headed man he is...just one more reason to love him!!! sorry that i kept this susan/chris thing going...caryn's right, its none of our business... - -----rita b. ------------------------------ From: SJordet@aol.com Subject: March of Crimes I was thinking that since I love both Ben Shepherd and hardcore punk music that this might be the kind of thing I'd like. I haven't started looking for it yet, but I was considering searching soon. What I'm basically inquiring is if I will have any trouble finding it. Is it out of print, how many albums did they put out, will I have to go to a special place to find it? I looked through the page before I asked this but didn't find any real info on it - or am I just looking in the wrong place???? And somebody mentioned that Ben hated Kiss - does anyone know if this is true? Rita (y'know I had a hamster named Rita once) - it's a very cool thing you're doing by sticking up for Susan. I agree, Susan is a very wonderful woman. And how could anyone think she's UGLY??? I may have only seen three pictures of her, but they were all very flattering and she looked absolutely gorgeous in all of them. Hey Joe! I haven't heard from you in a while - are you still alive, man???? Don't you just hate it when people consider Seatlle as "the origins of Pearl Jam and Nirvana" and completely forget about Soundgarden...? Benlover ------------------------------ From: endless_nameless@prodigy.com (GRRL NIKI FREER) Subject: circus of fun... here's to show how much circus really knows...: SOUNDGARDEN Singer/lyricist Chris Cornell was born in Lancaster, Pennsylvania on July 17, 1971. Bassist Patrick Dalheimer was born on May 30, 1971 in York, Pennsylvania. Guitarist Kim Thayil was born in Seattle, Washington September 4, 1960. Drummer Chad Gracey was born in York, Pennsylvania on July 23, 1971. go and check it out for yrselves... = ) gotta love that chad and patrick...if they exsisted, that is. = ) mind riot ____ we see you cry turn your head then we slap your face we see you try see you fail some things never change... ------------------------------ From: me Subject: song of the month Hey its the first!! Time for a new song of the month. ------------------------------ From: wxs129@psu.edu (Kesa) Subject: Circus stuff >here's to show how much circus really knows...: > >SOUNDGARDEN >Singer/lyricist Chris Cornell was born in Lancaster, Pennsylvania on >July 17, 1971. Bassist Patrick Dalheimer was born on May 30, 1971 in York, >Pennsylvania. Guitarist Kim Thayil was born in Seattle, Washington >September 4, 1960. Drummer Chad Gracey was born in York, Pennsylvania on >July 23, 1971. > > go and check it out for yrselves... = ) gotta love that chad and >patrick...if they exsisted, that is. = ) Just a note: Patrick Dalheimer and Chad Gracey DO exist--they're just the bassist and drummer for Live (as you might have guessed if you knew that Live was from York, PA). By the way, I think Live's new album is excellent and deserves a listen if you get the chance. Particularly track #9, Heropsychodreamer. Also, can that possibly be Chris Cornell's birthday? I suppose I could go to the page and check it out for myself, but just looking at it here, it seems wrong. The date they have there would make him 25 right now, and I could have sworn he was over 30. Kesa Well I wish I could kill you, savor the sight Get into my car, drive into the night Then lie as I scream to the heavens above That I was the last one you ever loved ,,,, (-_-) /_o_\ ------------------------------ From: cornell@loon.norlink.net (paul smith) Subject: I THINK CHRIS CORNELL IS THE BEST SINGER/SONGWRITER/MUSIC WRITER ON EARTH HI ALL YOU CHRIS CORNELL FANS! This is my first entry so i better make it good eh? anyway i think that chris Cornell is the shit! (very good thing) The lyrics he writes are UNBELIEVIBLE i have listend to Screaming life/Fopp a million times, LTL, UMOK, BMF, Superunknow, and DOTUS, tonnes! I am 17 and reside in thunder bay ontario, i think that the song "seasons" on the singles soundtrack kicks all ass! chris cornell should do an unplugged show, that would rule! I play football in school and before each game i listen to bad motor finger and it gets me sooooooooo psyched! i want to try to find some really rare soundgarden but i cannot locate it yet, us canadians dont hear much about that kind of stuff. anyhoo i dont exactly know how this works yet but i guess i will learn! i just wanna say i love you all and soundgarden kicks all ass! c-ya later knights of the soundtable! peace! ChRiS CoRnElL Is GoD ------------------------------ From: Ross Filipek Subject: Re: circus of fun... Chad Gracey is the drummer for Live. Damn, Circus needs to get a clue. Ross - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Sat, 1 Mar 1997, GRRL NIKI FREER wrote: > here's to show how much circus really knows...: > > SOUNDGARDEN > September 4, 1960. Drummer Chad Gracey was born in York, > Pennsylvania on > July 23, 1971. > > go and check it out for yrselves... = ) gotta love that chad and > patrick...if they exsisted, that is. = ) - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I don't think I really Understand you And I can't see why I'd ever want to And even if it isn't mine to say I'll say it anyway It's ugly --C. Cornell - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ And be sure to check out http://www.indiana.edu/~drumline/home.html ------------------------------ From: LoudLoveCC@aol.com Subject: Ben's sudden and disturbing departure from this planet... Chris aka Head of the Ben Shepard Coalition Against Political Correctness, Excuse me while I wring out my wet pants... HA!! Great post. I didn't want to post about the Ben nonsense flying around, 'cause I didn't want to involve myself, but your post just topped it off!! Btw.... I also heard that Ben was the real identity of Tori Amos's rapist and he was the one who told Kurt that killing himself wouldn't be such a bad idea. Shucks... For all you Benlovers... hey, I admit, I'm a sucker for Mr. Sexy Body (aka God) (aka Chris, for all you non-hootchies), but Ben rocks pretty hard. That would really suck a nut if he left, which I don't think will happen anyway. And as for an acoustic/Unplugged SG thing. Um, actually if any one member, in my humble opinion, would look funny on stage during an Unplugged gig, would be the guitar guru/studmuffin. I can not see Kim sitting on a damned stool with candles all around him, blowing on the strings of an acoustic guitar!! Ha!! Matt and Chris would be fine... Ben isn't ALWAYS a kicking/screaming/swearing maniac. I can honestly see Ben chilling on a stool, cig hanging out of his mouth, grooving along w/ the band. But, eh... Kim, sorry pal, but it's *really* hard for me to picture you doing this.... huh... who knows why? =P ok, enuf babble for now.... except for one thing. hee hee, today I wore boxers that said CORNELL on them.... YEAH, I RULE!! " huh....uh huh-huh... yeah.... uh... uh... shut up, dumbass!" me interviewing Chris... ME: So Chris, tell me about your relationship w/ Dave Navarro? CC: "Don't worry everything's clean" ME: I don't believe you... Shroom has pictures.... what's really going on between you two? CC: "Loud Love" ME: Aha! So you admit it! I knew what was going on... what do you usually say to him when you see him? CC: "Don't you want to thrill me?" ME: Wanna ask me that question? Please..... love, lissa ;-) ------------------------------ From: Cornell32@aol.com Subject: Re:THE FORK NECKLACE... I have no idea about what happened in Chicago, but I do know that I have a fork encounter of my own to report. I am also a big Blind Melon fan (at my first SG concert, I also discovered Blind Melon at the same ), and I had no idea of the history behind the infamous fork...otherwise, this particular incident would have affected me much more deeply... I'm sure I've told many of you my Chris story...but for those i haven't, i'll tell ya if ya e-mail me =) anyway: the very abridged version:Chris hugged me after I said something obviously very touching and the ultramega cool fork necklace currently under discussion got hooked on my little vest! We giggled as we unhooked it from my shirt! I had a silly-giggly moment w/ Chris heee heee! OH sorry. Anyway, considering my deep affection for Chris (obviously) as well as the late Shannon Hoon, I felt the need to share with the group. I'm gonna go get all fuzzy now...=) Thanks for reading my tangent... Leslie "Forget all your problems that don't even exist, and I'll show you a way to get high..." ~ Black Sabbath ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 3 Issue 54] ***************************************