From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Friday, 28 Feb 1997 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 02:46:18 EST Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Friday, 28 Feb 1997 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: Re: grrrrrrrrrrramy's Cornell Jr. blah blah blah Re: SG didn't win. Re: note to aleko & jeff grammys fork clarification Re: Down under on the upside New Reader fuck i missed it! Soundgarden in the past Re: SG didn't win. Re: grrrrrrrrrrramy's Back in the saddle again... Re: grrrrrrrrammy's... SOMMSstink Doofus!!! :) grammys on mtv Grammy Awards Grammy Nomination The Grammys Re: Grammy Awards also...... Re: Soundgarden Digest, Tuesday, 25 Feb 1997 no real surprises last night SG and the Grammys Yes, another Grammy post Anti-violence compilation Re: SG didn't win. HYPE and other stuff Re: HYPE and other stuff jesus people... Re: grrrrrrrrrrramy's new kozik sg poster HYPE Ben's butt and the Grammys Chris hitting on some girl Re: Ben's butt and the Grammys Re: HYPE and other stuff Re: HYPE and other stuff Re: New Reader re: Ben's butt ------------------------------------------------------------ From: "Andrew Dunn" Subject: Re: grrrrrrrrrrramy's > Subject: grrrrrrrrammy's... Look, I know this was probably written with a lot less seriousness than how I treated it, but... i couldn't resist, nothing personal: > hell, i think the boys should have gone right up on stage, > and rushed right at SP. = ) wouldn't it have been funny to see kim > take the award out of billy's hands and make him cry again? = ) hee Considering Billy has stated MANY MANY MANY times in the past that he is in fact a fan of Soundgarden's and respects them very much, it wouldn't be funny at all. It would be like if they did that to you if you won an award. What makes them different from you? If by some weird quirk Kim did that to anyone I would absolutely have no respect for anything he's ever done/said. Besides the award is pointless. SP won because Mellon Collie was popular this year (hell, half of you dislike Down on the Upside anyways). Just like Soundgarden won the awards vs. Disarm a few years ago because Superunknown was more popular than Siamese Dream. The grammy's mean nothing. It's thrilling to see people win who you admire but it's all pointless. > hee, but really. where does bullet with butterfly wings even compare > to the complexity and mood of PN? Ummmm... I love Soundgarden's music, but I have to tell you all this but in a lot of people's minds Chris Cornell is not the be all and end all in the art of writing great lyrics. It may be a flaw in my genetic code or something but Corgan's songs in my eyes are much much much more personal than anything Cornell could ever ever write. So it's kind of an unfair way to ask the question when nobody here cares about even delving into the subject of what "Bullet With Butterfly Wings" might actually be about (and we shouldn't cause it's way off topic). > it doesn't even come close... but > then again, since i'm not a high paid know-nothing judge, what say > should i have anyway? Who says all the judges are high paid know-nothing judges? They are judges, they all enjoy different types of music, yes some of them are just in it for the money but some of them not. And who are you to question their opinions or votes? Sounds like you are jealous and want to be one of the judges yourself. > mind riot (laughing at james iha's ridiculous hair...) I think James is too. Look, I know it's really cool to hate Smashing Pumpkins for some weird reason. But let's have a little respect for all aspects of music around. If someone likes Celine Dion and feels the power of her songs, that's great. It's hard coming to this group to share musical experiences about Soundgarden with people who criticize a bunch of other bands who are as near and dear to your heart as Soundgarden. - -Andrew (nd), back to lurking. ------------------------------ From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_And=E9r?= Subject: Cornell Jr. Is there anyone else out there waiting for Chris and Susan to bring us a little Cornell Jr? The thought just popped up in my head, imagine this 2 week baby wailing the Cornell wail at the top of his lounges... ;) /martin. ------------------------------ From: Iodine Subject: blah blah blah Well, after reading about the Grammys and all that I have only one thing to say: SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!! It sucks cuz Soundgarden didn't win an award, but I didnt even get to see Chris and Susan :( I had to work, to tell you the truth, I didn't even KNOW the Grammys were last night. Damnit..oh well. Heheh...ask yourselves, does it REALLY matter, anyway? I mean, we know Soundgarden rocks. They dont need a little brass statue thinger to prove that. Grammy or no Grammy, people who listen to Soundgarden will listen to Soundgarden cuz they rock and not cuz they won any awards..hell..I dunno..it would be nice if they got some recognition for DOTU though..but..ahh. This whole Ben Shepherd thing: Sure he picks fights and spits on people and kicks them, but think of Head Down, Somewhere, Face Pollution, Slaves & Bulldozers, Zero Chance, Dusty, Never Named, Switch Opens (HEY, I LIKE that song), An Unkind..the list goes on...(I'm kinda rusty in my Soundgardenisms, so if I got any of those wrong...uh..let me know) :) I know that if I was in a band with someone who had songwriting skills like that, I wouldn't be so quick to kick him out. ...I also as a fan don't want Ben to leave either. Sure I'm a bass player and I dream of playing with Soundgarden :), but..I dunno. I love Ben :) overfloater - -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GMU d- s+:+ a--- C+++ U P? L E W++ N o? K- O- M-- V? PS PE Y+ PGP- t- 5? X R- tv+++ b+ DI- D- G e h! r--- !z - ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ ------------------------------ From: Vince Varkey Subject: Re: SG didn't win. On Thu, 27 Feb 1997, Rebekah Henderson wrote: > On MTV's pre-Grammy show John Norris got a short interview with Chris > as he was entering the Grammy thing. I taped that and I saw Chris and > Susan a couple of times during the show. Is there anyway we could somehow put this pre-Grammy interview on Seth's site? That would be very cool..and it wasn't that long I don't think. What do you think about that Seth...or Geoff? - -vince ------------------------------ From: Taylor Holmes Subject: Re: note to aleko & jeff merlin.dwc@internetmci.com wrote: > > Aleko... what right have you got to say that about Ben? None.You > didn't even attempt to justify your remark, not that you could. In the > future I hope all Beavises, Buttheads, Jeffs and Alekos with > vocabularies limited to such words as "dickhead" and "homo" > keep their asinine comments to themselves. > > ~Lorraine All of these "Note to" messages should be limited to the private realm. Chastising people in public only embarrasses them and results in 3-4 more bickering messages being sent to everyone. Attacking people's *comments* and sparing the wise ass personal attacks is also of good practice. Later, Taylor - -"Kids... they go to concerts, they rock out, their into metal... they could go home and, effectively, kill their parents..." - Some complete Moron - -- D. Taylor Holmes Senior Quality Assurance Analyst, Automated Test Coordinator Datastream Systems Software, Inc. home: holmest@netdepot.com work: holmest@dstm.com ------------------------------ From: Katherine Revel Subject: grammys well, the grammy's kinda sucked. The only highlights were seeing Chris on MTV (looking absolutely delicious) saying that the band will be recording quite soon and catching a quick glimplse of Chris and Susan when Toni Braxton when her award. They were sitting right behind her and I kept hoping maybe she' d win again so I could see Chris!! Didn't even show a live shot during their category (that sucked)...didn't see the rest of the band either! But, Chris did look good and he promises more music so I guess the night wasn't a total loss. - no staring at the clouds i'm must stay on the ground in clusters of the mice the smoke is in our eyes katie :) ------------------------------ From: Andrea Pinto Subject: fork clarification - -No news on the - -tattoo, but the famous fork, immortalised on Dena's tee shirts, was given to - -him by Shannon Hoon - and he stopped wearing it when Shannon died. Shannon Hoon gave him the fork???? Interesting. But I thought one of the 1st batch of Chicago Sommsters who got to meet the band touched it? And that was after S.Hoon died. Whassup? ------------------------------ From: Taylor Holmes Subject: Re: Down under on the upside Audio Visual Production Unit wrote: > > Okay, I know this may be a silly question, but does anyone know how I can > get a copy of down under on the upside??? How's it going, Audio Visual Production Unit? ;) I just purchased DUOTU from CDNOW a couple of days ago. Go to http://cdnow.com and search on Soundgarden. Also, even though this has been mentioned before, you may find a small collection of SG goodies at: http://volcano.flashpoint.com/gemm/GEMM :-) Later, Taylor - -"Anyone know of a good SG website?" - -- D. Taylor Holmes Senior Quality Assurance Analyst, Automated Test Coordinator Datastream Systems Software, Inc. home: holmest@netdepot.com work: holmest@dstm.com ------------------------------ From: shaikh Subject: New Reader well, i must say that i just read my first issue of the Soundgarden Digest (Thursday, 27 Feb. 1997) and find the comments in there extremely repeatative. Please people. But i may as well follow the "format" i see in this digest: My first concert ever was a Soundgarden show. It was absolutly wonderful. I was completely in love with Chris Cornell and new that that night would be special. i had a great time. The mosh was wonderful (a wonderful as a mosh can be). But then the next week I found out that Chris Cornell was married to his manager (LUCKY BITCH!). That was a couple of years ago though, but i still I hold a dear interst and respect for them (and a complete adoration for Chris). So, If anyone has some INTERSTING new about Soundgarden, I would be happy to hear it...other than that...... Farrah Farrah Shaikh ------------------------------ From: "Brian A. Zeiger" Subject: Damnit, the pumpkins won with a song that is like 2 years old, highly overplayed and overrated. ***************************** http://pubweb.nwu.edu/~baz380 ***************************** ------------------------------ From: Slave4cc@aol.com Subject: fuck i missed it! I was so careful to remember to watch the goddam Grrrrammys and I fuckin missed Chris??!!!!! WTF? I didnt think to watch MTV. scuse me while I slit my wrists. Anyone get a picture of him and Susan? I gotta see it. This really pisses me off. I blew it. FUCK! Slave4CC ------------------------------ From: Moonsta693@aol.com Subject: Soundgarden in the past Hi guys and dolls! I've got a couple of questions. Does anyone have the grammy pre-show that was on MTV on tape? How about the 1994-95 grammy's? As for last night's grammy's.....the grammy's really don't show anything. I particularly don't like most of the "BIG" award show's anyway, because everyone goes in their with their favorites in mind, and couldn't give a shit about anyone else. In my mind I think that if Burden in my Hand was nominated, then there would have been a chance. Burden in my hand was more popular than Pretty Noose. A friend of mine told me that they won something in the Pre-award show. I'll have to watch the tape again to check that out. 'nother question. For all of you out there that knows....do you know where I can pick Kerrang up? I've been dyin' to read that mag. Also, how do you get into #somms? That's enough for now, the original pretty noose (the outkast) ------------------------------ From: Rita Bonofiglio Subject: Re: SG didn't win. On Thu, 27 Feb 1997, Vince Varkey wrote: > > > On Thu, 27 Feb 1997, Rebekah Henderson wrote: > > > On MTV's pre-Grammy show John Norris got a short interview with Chris > > as he was entering the Grammy thing. I taped that and I saw Chris and > > Susan a couple of times during the show. > > Is there anyway we could somehow put this pre-Grammy interview on Seth's > site? That would be very cool..and it wasn't that long I don't think. > > What do you think about that Seth...or Geoff? > > -vince > WHAT?!? chris was on what? damn damn damn damn and damn it again...yes someone please anyone get this interview up somewhere...next time any of you american sommsters complain about mtv i gonna fly you to toronto personally and make you watch 4 hours of muchmusic, how do you like that.....of course they showed ZERO soundgarden before and after the show..well shit, they never show soundgarden... *even more pissed off* rita b. ------------------------------ From: endless_nameless@prodigy.com (GRRL NIKI FREER) Subject: Re: grrrrrrrrrrramy's Andrew dunn wrote without listening to sarcasm: >it would be like if they did that to you if you won an award. GOD! hello, andrew? um, is yr brian working? cause i was totally joking in that entire note. i'm not an idiot, i'd never wish them to *really* go up on stage and do that, it was just a funny thought that crossed my mind. YES i know that SP won because of the populatiry of Mellon Collie, i'm not stupid. And i'm sure the grammy's mean more than nothing to those who win, or they wouldn't make the trip out to New York to sit through hours of what ends up being torture to some to pick it up. >Chris Cornell is not the be all and end all in the art of writing great lyrics. It may be a flaw in my genetic code or something but Corgan's songs in my eyes... [snip] hey, that's cool, that's fine. i happen to think CC is the best lyric writer around, you don't have to agree, i don't care. and you can compare the two songs and wonder what they're both about. musicians write songs to be heard and interpreted by whoever listens however they choose. PN is, imo, the better song. >Who says all the judges are high paid know-nothing judges? They are >judges, they all enjoy different types of music, yes some of them are just >in it for the money but some of them not. And who are you to question >their opinions or votes? Sounds like you are jealous and want to be one of >the judges yourself. yeah, sure. god, humor is sure a big waste on some of the people on this list sometimes... LIGHTEN UP EVERYONE!!! the jealous wannabe judge, mind riot ____ ------------------------------ From: ShRooMGrLz@aol.com Subject: Back in the saddle again... Greetings fellow Soundgarden freaks! I'm baaaaaaaaaaaack!! How the hell has everyone been while I was wallowing in my deep computer-deprived funk? Well, I got my computer back yesterday... for GOOD this time. I know I've missed a whole bunch of stuff... like last nights Grammy's, damn me. Nope, I didn't see Chris. Nope, I didn't see Susan. But (shoot me now) I *did* get to see Uncle Fester and his untalented go-go dancers perform (and I use that word lightly) one of their MTV-butt-kissing-favorite songs. I hate the Grammy's, I hate them, I hate them. Margret... PLEASE tell me that you taped the show last night. I'd really like to make some snaps of Chris & Susan from it. I'm sure you're all dying to hear what I've been doing with my downtime, hmmm? Well, last week Susan sent Soundgarden's private jet down here to pick me up and bring me to Seattle. (I had no idea that you could feasibly put a hot tub in a jet, either.) When I arrived, she whisked me off to a lovely dinner at her mother's house... damn, Jean can cook pasta like no one I've ever met. Later Susan brought me to her office, and showed me the super-ultramega-secret room where she keeps all the naked pictures of Chris and Matt and Ben. There wasn't any of Kim though, because he's still refusing to take off his pants for a camera. Something about his chicken legs... she didn't elaborate, and I didn't ask. Hey... were you people aware that Matt has a double jointed... oh wait, I promised I wouldn't mention that. Never mind. Anyway, after she showed me many pictures of Chris (ranging from his paper mache fetish to his Keebler Elf costume)... we went back to her and Chris' house for a tasty beverage before the limo came to take me back to the airport. Unfortunately Chris got home from riding his motorcycle about a half hour earlier than Susan had thought he would, and he walked in on Susan and I giggling over a certain picture that she had given me for a souvenir (it was of Chris and Dave Navarro... there was a lot of whipped cream, naked flesh, and liquid latex in the shot). Needless to say, he was mightily upset... and he threw a hissy fit right in their living room. You've never lived until you've witnessed Chris stomping his feet, throwing his hands in the air, and shrieking "You got that picture from the bottom of my underwear drawer, didn't you Susan?!? No one is allowed to see Dave naked, but me and Monet!! I feel so VIOLATED!" I was about to ask if he had any naked pictures of Stoney, when Susan broke in and said that maybe it would be best if I left then. Somehow I think she was really regretting showing me everything she did. Well, maybe not all of the pictures... but some of those videos WERE pretty raunchy. Who would've guessed that Chris was so flexible and liked to perform obsene acts with stuffed animals? Anyway, she was really really nice about the whole thing and very apologetic... but she told me that she was probably never going to be allowed to speak to me again, and that I should pretend that we'd never met if I see her in the future. Since she was such a wonderful woman, I agreed. I even returned the picture of Chris and Dave to her. What can I say? I'm nice like that. (Prozac... get this woman some Prozac!) Anyway, I know that I'm waaaaaaaay waaaaaaaaaay behind on my e-mail, but I'll catch up as soon as I can. Superhuge thanks to everyone for cheering me up and sharing pictures of Chris with me. (Luvs to UKDeb especially. ;-) Shroomy "Caryn, Seth is blowing bubbles in his milk again!! Make him stop!" ~ me in a few weeks "Shroom, I didn't want to announce this on SOMMS because it would cause mass pandemonium... but I have three exclusive pictures of Chris in the shower that I took at the Chicago SOMMSfest. He didn't want me in his bathroom at first, but once I showed him that I had an all-access laminate he was ok with it. I'll send the pictures to you, but you have to promise NOT to ask him to autograph them the next time you meet him." ~ Sethmeister ------------------------------ From: Redodin@aol.com Subject: Re: grrrrrrrrammy's... I was just wondering if anyone who knows about Kim making Billy cry would share it with me and those who haven't heard about it.Thanks. Blowing the pieces Belong to the wind When the whole thing blows away I won't pretend ------------------------------ From: tonerkin Subject: SOMMSstink > >Jamie wrote: >No it's not the Soundgarden freshener or the petrified chicken mcnugget - >it's the last of the smell of 8 hot, sweaty, crazed people in winter coats >stuffed in your little car last November after the Soundgarden concert. No Jamie, I don't think it is SOMMSstink. If it was ,the pheromones released that night by those crazed sweaty woman would still be lingering and I would have strange men following my car still!!! I dug out the packaging my air freshener came in and it had the four scents available listed: *Kim's Beer flatulence *Chris's Mousse with Whipped Cream(I can order a case for the Hootchies) *Ben's Sweet Springtime Spittle(See, I said Ben and Sweet in the same sentence) *Matt's Manly Musk(I'll order Dena a case of that) I suppose you can all guess which one I must of gotten!!!! toni ------------------------------ From: Aferdity@aol.com Subject: Doofus!!! :) Well, I caught the Grammy's last night and cheered SG on but I guess I didn't yell loud enough. Oh well!!! I did catch a glimpse of the guys (I just saw Chris but I assume the others were there) when they would put the camera on other people in the audience. Of course I started yelling and clapping until my brother told me to shut up but that didn't stop me, I kept right on going and finally my parents told me to be quite, but still that couldn't keep me quite. I think they know now not to bother me now when it deals with SG!! Oh, I got my CC Pic Of The Day (tattoos suck) and I finally saw Chris' tattoo. Okay, I know someone probably already said this, but what in the HELL does it mean again??? Does it mean Susan, or I love Susan, or my wife's name is Susan so don't come any closer because you're probably one of those Hootchie girls brain-washed by all those pics that Shroom sends you of me and you've come to do some wicked things to me with whip cream and to take advantage of my gorgoeus body and....uh, sorry, I don't think it means that but you never know!!! Seriously though what does it really mean? Sorry to be a doofus to ask this again but I forgot!! Take care and be sweet!! Stay Cool, Kelly :) P.S. So glad to have CC Pics coming to my mailbox again. Welcome back Shroomy!!! ------------------------------ From: UnknownGrl@aol.com Subject: grammys on mtv I was watching the pre-grammy show on MTV, and they interviewed Chris Cornell. It was one of the better interviews. They asked what Soundgarden was doing now and Chris said they just got back from Austrailia and that they might start recording now. Then the guy told Chris it looked like he was getting a tan and Chris scratched his stomac and said "Yeah... well you know those tanning booths in Austrailia (or something like that) I laughed all night. He even kind of smiled his half smile... Then during the Grammys some black lady was getting an award and sitting behind her was Chris with Susan... No sign of the other members of Soundgarden... But for anyone who has always wanted to see Susan just get a copy of the grammys from a friend and watch closely. Peace or Anarchy, Rachel ------------------------------ From: u1002740@host.MIT.EDU (Jeffrey Mlinscek) Subject: Grammy Awards I can believe that SOUNDGARDEN lost. I mean the Smashing Pumpkins have won like 20 awards for that album. The thing I don't get is that they won for Best ROCK Performance when they just got finished doing Techno. Yes, Bullets and Butterflywings is a rock song, but you can't tell me (after I heard there new song on the radio) that there not Techno. Cause I fell on black day's. I fell on black day's. ----Fell On Black Days---- Sean ------------------------------ From: "Kelly Lee" Subject: Grammy Nomination I was listening to the radio this morning. Washington/Baltimore WHFS 99.1 was talking about the Grammy nominees on the Morning Product. I don't recall the DJs name, but he said that he talked to Matt Cameron after the awards and asked how he felt about Soundgarden's award nomination. He said (correct me if I'm wrong) that he feels like the Susan Lucci of the Grammys. I thought that was cute. -Kelly Lee ------------------------------ From: SndGrdn45@aol.com Subject: The Grammys I was frieking out when I saw Chris and Susan in the audience at the Grammys. He was like sitting a few rows behind Toni Braxton or something. I cant believe he was just across the bridge! ------------------------------ From: Caryn Rose Subject: Re: Grammy Awards On Thu, 27 Feb 1997, Jeffrey Mlinscek wrote: > I can believe that SOUNDGARDEN lost. I mean the Smashing Pumpkins > have won like 20 awards for that album. The thing I don't get is that they > won for Best ROCK Performance when they just got finished doing Techno. > Yes, Bullets and Butterflywings is a rock song, but you can't tell me > (after I heard there new song on the radio) that there not Techno. they're not techno. jeez, gimme a break. the band that builds walls of guitars so big they are skyscrapers throws one synth in and now they're *techno*? i for one can completely believe that soundgarden lost. remember what i tried to explain about the grammy voting pattern? the voting members of the academy are for the large part boring old farts who haven't turned on the radio since 1972. they see a name that is familiar to them or from the trade rags, they vote for it. i mean, c'mon, beck for 'best male vocal'??! all due props to the man for being an innovator and doing something way differenet, but that song had NO VOCALS in it. again, beck is the flavor du jour, so they voted for it. when i was back in junior high my father forbid me to watch the grammys in the same room with him because i was so incensed at the results. i take it far less personally now... c'mon, look at how laid back chris and susan were. they were tan, they were relaxed, they looked maaaahvelous. obviously the band didn't take the ceremony that seriously because only the two of them went. what did chris say in the pre-show:"if they want to give me another one of these, i'll be happy to take it". to defend andy dunn, who i will admit is my friend, his point was this: it's okay to love sg and not love another band, but there's no need to trash the other band in order to raise sg up. it was unnecessary to brutually trash a band which is his favorite (and is a favorite of others on this list) to make your point. it was irrelevant. sense of humor had nothing to do with it. i didn't take it personally and i just found it ignorant. soundgarden didn't win, smashing pumpkins did, so what. - --caryn ------------------------------ From: SndGrdn45@aol.com Subject: also...... You also saw Chris when I think Eric Clapton got up for one of his many awards. It was near the evd of the show. DAMN!!! I MISSED CHRIS ON MTV! Being the genius that I am, I didn't watch the entire pre show thing. Also, Shroomy, YOU ARE A BLESSED WOMAN! Going on a jet to Susan's mom's house? Entering Chris' house????? I've got to find out how to do that! ------------------------------ From: ILUVSDGN@aol.com Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Tuesday, 25 Feb 1997 In a message dated 97-02-26 02:53:51 EST, you write: << ] >> I CANNOT BELEIVE THAT SOUNDGARDEN DID NOT WIN THE GRAMMY FOR BEST HARD ROCK PERFORMANCE. INSTEAD THEY GAVE IT TO THE SMASHING PUMPKINS. I MEAN THEY ARE A GOOD BAND AND EVERYTHING, BUT I DO NOT CONSIDER THEM AS HARD ROCK, I CONSIDER THEM AS ALTERNATIVE. SOUNDGARDEN IS MORE HARD ROCK THAN ALTERNATIVE! I THINK THAT THE PEOPLE WHO DECIDE WHO GIVES THE GRAMMYS TO WHO, WOULD NOT KHOW WHAT HARD ROCK WAS IF IT TURNED AROUND AND SLAPPED THEM IN THE FACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I AM SURE THAT OTHER SOUNDGARDEN FANS WOULD AGREE WITH ME ON THAT. ------------------------------ From: "merlin.dwc@internetmci.com" Subject: no real surprises last night Hey... Well, real big surprises last night. All in all I thought the whole thing was pretty boring, but there were a few good performances. I really liked Beck's - he's got a lot of presence. Who else? I can't really think of any right now. I had a feeling the smashing pumpkins might win, they seem to be the darlings of the music industry right now. But I was pretty certain that PN would get it. Yes, BWBW *is* a good song... but it doesn't hold a candle to PN - a song that's both musically and lyrically brilliant and proves that Chris isn't just a singer, songwriter & musician, but a true poet. But I'm not really upset that they didn't win - like I said before, winning a grammy doesn't prove anything - what I'm upset about is the fact that I sat through the whole thing, just to get a glimpse of them - and all for nothing! At least I saw AIC - for a split second. And I did see CC interviewed on mtv just before it started. Somebody said they saw him when Toni I-think-my-dress-is-about- to-fall-off Braxton went up to accept her award. Damn it! Now I wish I'd stayed and watched, but as soon as I heard her name I had to leave, the fear of throwing up was just too great. So anyway... to all the people who are really disappointed that they didn't win - remember, Celine Dion won record of the year, Toni won about a dozen awards - would SG really want to be in their company? That's all for now... ~Lorraine = "Nothing seems to break me = no matter how far I fall nothing can break me at all. . ." ------------------------------ From: me Subject: SG and the Grammys Alternative, hard rock, grunge, heavy metal, pop. How many labels are there, music is music. Any ways shouldnt Smashing pumpkins be exempt frm the Grammy's after all There last album came out in 1995. There is always the mtv awards so well have to wait till sep. ------------------------------ From: cornell Subject: Yes, another Grammy post Well, looks like the Hard Rock category was a load of shit. It is a huge shame that the Smashing Pumpkins won, but you can't really blame the judges. They are just a bunch of out of touch executives who base their decisions on what's popular, not necessarily what's good. The "suprise" nomination of Beck is not that suprising at all, seeing how Odelay got a shitload of media attention. Getting back to the category at hand, here is why it was a crock of shit: Not only did Soundgarden get denied, which I had a feeling would happen since PN has that "ugly" feel (refer back to May/June 96 digests), but still kicks ass. However, I thought it was high time that Rage got some industry recognition, and "Bulls on Parade" was just the track to do it. It is intense, rythmic, and, the thing that really matters, had immense popularity. THEY should have won, not the Shitty Sounding Pumpkins (if you saw their performance, you'll know what I mean) gregg ------------------------------ From: Slave4cc@aol.com Subject: Anti-violence compilation Hello all good Sommsters: First, sorry for 2 posts from me in 1 day. Second, while browsing through my Columbia House catalog, I came across a compilation cd called Home Alive: The Art of Self Defense it goes on to say "All-star anti-violence benefit album with Soundgarden, Nirvana, Pearl Jam, more. 2 cd set. put out by Epic records. Anyone heard of this? Any unique songs on it? I will soon find out myself =). Slave4CC (Chris I missed you in your tux wah wah) ------------------------------ From: Geoff Subject: Re: SG didn't win. I can make sure it gets on Seth's site if somebody mails me a videotape with the interview. I don't get MTV. Geoff ------------------------------ From: Audio Visual Production Unit Subject: HYPE and other stuff Okay, I found that site where you can order SG merchandise, but I want to know if anyone knows how to look at the t-shirt designs before you order them from CDBANZAI...any suggestions? Also, I missed HYPE at the cinemas, now it's been released on video to buy, and I just was wondering if anyone could tell me if the SG/AIC content is substantial enough, like how often do they actually appear in the video??? Thanks for any suggestions! Jo ------------------------------ From: Caryn Rose Subject: Re: HYPE and other stuff On Fri, 28 Feb 1997, Audio Visual Production Unit wrote: > Also, I missed HYPE at the cinemas, now it's been released on video to buy, > and I just was wondering if anyone could tell me if the SG/AIC content is > substantial enough, like how often do they actually appear in the video??? aic are not in the video at all, aside from a brief shot of layne staley walking by a camera, taken from when he played with mad season during pearl jam's self pollution radio broadcast. matt and kim have several interview segments. there's some wonderful footage of 'searching' live, and there's also some brief chats with susan silver. BUY IT. it's a wonderful video. - --caryn ------------------------------ From: endless_nameless@prodigy.com (GRRL NIKI FREER) Subject: jesus people... i didn't fucking trash the smashing pumpkins. alright? humor? nope, it doesn't work around here much. i'm not an ignorant asshole, i was just trying to make a joke. forget i even tried... >=( mind riot (so sorry to all she has pissed off) ____ ------------------------------ From: Dean Brandt Subject: Re: grrrrrrrrrrramy's At 23:51 26/02/97 -0800, you wrote: >Look, I know it's really cool to hate Smashing Pumpkins for some weird >reason. But let's have a little respect for all aspects of music around. >If someone likes Celine Dion and feels the power of her songs, that's >great. It's hard coming to this group to share musical experiences about >Soundgarden with people who criticize a bunch of other bands who are as >near and dear to your heart as Soundgarden. Hi there, Who says it is cool to hate the Smashing Pumpkins? I actually quite enjoy listening to them. They are quite popular here in Australia. Maybe another case of 'each to their own', and another case of 'where is your contribution to the music world' :) Seriously, we all have different tastes, this mailing list just shows that at least we have one thing in common. Bye for now, Dean +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ Dean Brandt ph: +61-8-82673143 IGM fax: +61-8-82673143 internet services manager integration - design - www mob: 0414-254-988 +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ From: Caryn Rose Subject: new kozik sg poster WOW! look at this one, gang: http://tiltpix.com/tilt/dist/kozik/sound.html this is a poster that was allegedly done for the mercer arena shows here in seattle, end of the tour in december. i NEVER saw one of these around town -- which means that if they were distributed, no one ever put them up. (i guess if someone came into my store and offered me a kozik poster, it'd go right home with me too). anyway, you can mail order the poster -- they don't have the unicorn poster, which is what i was looking for -- for $10, plus $6.50 shipping and handling. not bad for such a gorgeous piece of work. and we all know how much kozik's work appreciates. go buy one! the only problem i have is this web site that his stuff is being sold on sucks big time. difficult navigation, visually ugly, the works. it would be so nice if he had his own web page.... - --caryn ------------------------------ From: Audio Visual Production Unit Subject: HYPE Thanks guys! After all the lovely mail I received, I immediately rang and ordered my copy of HYPE, and guess what? Not only is it bargain priced at a mere $25 (AUS), but you also receive a free t-shirt..now is that good karma or what? To any other Australian(Perth) sommsters, Archie Martin Vox/Chandlers is the place to get it, but the t-shirts are only available while stocks last (of course)and I got the last one from the store I rang. Thanks again, JO ------------------------------ From: SJordet@aol.com Subject: Ben's butt and the Grammys Watched the Grammys last night. Very boring, anyone who didn't watch it did not miss much. I DID like Jewel's dress when she presented the Best Hard Rock Performance, until I noticed the fact that it was QUITE transparent. Woah, girlie! There is such a thing as a bra! I found the Metal Hammer magazine with Chris on the cover a while ago, but never until a few nights ago had the chance to look at it. WOAH BABY! One *mighty fine* picture of Ben's ass displayed on *one entire page*. The back of his shirt is lifting up and showing one large, tender chunk of pale flesh while the tight black leather pants perfectly display his round, hard ass as his legs are splayed in the akward manner that only Ben Shepherd can make seem graceful. Ha cha cha! I've been thinking about blowing it up and hanging it over my bed...=) What I'M REALLY looking for is a picture of Ben without his shirt on...I would KILL for one. I want one as bad as Shroom wants a pic of Chris in his birthday suit! It's driving me nuts, imaging the hair distribution, hoping he has THE FUZZ, mentally tracing my fingers over his pale chest and stomach - ooooooooh. This could get nasty... I should really stop talking about this now, shouldn't I...? =) I'm off to look at Ben's butt!!!!! Benlover =) ------------------------------ From: SJordet@aol.com Subject: Chris hitting on some girl Sorry, I can't remember who wrote the post about a girl saying that Chris Cornell hit on her - my computer kicked me off before I could save it. My reply: I SERIOUSLY doubt that any guy with three Pomeranians named Pancake, Howdy, and Bunky would hit on anyone other than his gorgeous wife. She's obviously lying. Plus, I have a Badmotorfinger cassette that I play in my car since I don't have a CD player in there, and I just noticed a few weeks ago that it has a typo on it. Side 2 (I think) says it was produced in 19912 instead of 1991. Does anyone else have this typo on their cassette? This has been puzzling me for quite some time now. NOW back Ben's butt, Benlover =) ------------------------------ From: me Subject: Re: Ben's butt and the Grammys SJordet@aol.com wrote: > > Watched the Grammys last night. Very boring, anyone who didn't watch it did > not miss much. > > I DID like Jewel's dress when she presented the Best Hard Rock Performance, > until I noticed the fact that it was QUITE transparent. Woah, girlie! There > is such a thing as a bra! > > I found the Metal Hammer magazine with Chris on the cover a while ago, but > never until a few nights ago had the chance to look at it. WOAH BABY! One > *mighty fine* picture of Ben's ass displayed on *one entire page*. The back > of his shirt is lifting up and showing one large, tender chunk of pale flesh > while the tight black leather pants perfectly display his round, hard ass as > his legs are splayed in the akward manner that only Ben Shepherd can make > seem graceful. Ha cha cha! I've been thinking about blowing it up and hanging > it over my bed...=) > > What I'M REALLY looking for is a picture of Ben without his shirt on...I > would KILL for one. I want one as bad as Shroom wants a pic of Chris in his > birthday suit! It's driving me nuts, imaging the hair distribution, hoping he > has THE FUZZ, mentally tracing my fingers over his pale chest and stomach - > ooooooooh. This could get nasty... > > I should really stop talking about this now, shouldn't I...? =) > > I'm off to look at Ben's butt!!!!! > Benlover =) Gross ach.. ------------------------------ From: KAISERVRBL@aol.com Subject: Re: HYPE and other stuff HYPE came out on video????? OK, where can we get it at? Lance ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: Re: HYPE and other stuff At 11:53 PM 2/27/97 -0500, KAISERVRBL@aol.com wrote: >HYPE came out on video????? >OK, where can we get it at? well, i just went to the hype! website -- it is still playing in the US, and video release is slated for "this spring or summer". i guess it went to video in australia because it was easier than trying to get distribution. anyway, in the us, it's playing a LOT of locations. they're also doing a release to colleges, and the full schedule is here: http://www.leonardo.net/hype!/indexblk.html and of course you can get to the rest of the site (very cool, i might add, except that they link the iMusic site instead of seth's page) from there too. - --caryn ------------------------------ From: Rita Bonofiglio Subject: Re: New Reader > But then the next week I found out that Chris Cornell was married > to his manager (LUCKY BITCH!). ok, ok, HOLD ON THERE, stop the presses, freeze, just STOP!! i am not one to flame, or get mad at other people on this list, considering i am pretty new to the list myself, i feel its just not my place...HOWEVER...when someone calls susan silver a bitch i feel the need to lash out...you may have meant "bitch" in a sarcastic/non-negative way(although bitch is always negative in my opinion),but i dont care... susan silver is an exceptional business woman who not only managed soundgarden to the top, but also alice in chains (and they seem like a pretty difficult bunch to manage, but i love them anyway)and many many more...susan silver is more than just "chris cornell's lucky wife", she is first and formost the brilliant master mind who managed to put soundgarden where they are today...in the music industry it sometimes takes more than just music to get a band to last like soundgarden has...she deserves nothing but respect from soundgarden fans...so give it to her... PARDON ME, but i needed to vent on this one...won't happen again (unless someone else says something mean about her!!) forever loving susan silver ; ) rita b. ------------------------------ From: sky2girl@tomco.net Subject: re: Ben's butt Sounds like this benlover needs it bad!!! benlover ,don't get us in a tither and primed for aol, please, would ben love you for that? He probably knows you think he's hella hot. ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 3 Issue 52] ***************************************