From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Thursday, 27 Feb 1997 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 01:25:32 EST Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Thursday, 27 Feb 1997 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: Matt sampled for Prodigy LP soundgarden techno...god no... shows Concert ticket $$$$ Fresh Deadly Odors Re: Matt sampled for Prodigy LP The Official Word on the Breakup Smokestack lightning Re: Matt sampled for Prodigy LP mtv`s greatest hits! Re: Fresh Deadly Odors The Upside Fw: SOUNDGARDELICIOUS!!!!!! =) HIT PARADER! march 15, 1996 digest I'm Not Stoned, But I Watned To Tell Ya.... SG's sound clips. SG=GRAMMY nothing much... RE:RE:a fight Grammy's and Chris' light shines through They'll get um next year.... Chris's Clothes (that 90) Take a deep breath... Bill Nye!!!! Turn off the computer Re: Turn off the computer The skinny on the Man-Cow. silverchair CD Down under on the upside everybody in general Re: anarchy; another note to vince tonight's the night! (and one final note to vince) grrrrrrrrammy's... note to aleko & jeff SG didn't win SG didn't win :( will i ever learn... Oh Chris Re: grrrrrrrrammy's...+ Aleko's Apology Re: Decorating tips SG didn't win. RE: A fight, a fight.....[bam!].....take THAT, you blasphemer!! Re: Want help Decorating tips ------------------------------------------------------------ From: Deborah Baker Subject: Matt sampled for Prodigy LP From Kerrang, March 1st 1997 "Soundgarden Drummer 'Nicked' By Prodigy "Soundgarden drummer Matt Cameron could be a surprise guest on the long-awaited new album from The Prodigy. "When the two bands shared the bill on the recent mega Australian festival tour Big Day Out, Prodge whizzkid computer/keyboard bloke Liam Howlett was so impressed with Cameron's tub thumping that he arranged to sample him one night, with the Soundgarden skinbasher's full approval." Also in Kerrang this week is Morat's interview with Chris where he asks him questions Kerrang readers really want to know. It's a very upbeat and funny interview (you're right Carolyn, Oz seems to agree with them) No news on the tattoo, but the famous fork, immortalised on Dena's tee shirts, was given to him by Shannon Hoon - and he stopped wearing it when Shannon died. I'll be getting the full article over to Seth etc etc UKDeb ------------------------------ From: Rita Bonofiglio Subject: soundgarden techno...god no... >...techno and that funky > sound are definitely huge right now, and they have gone down that road, > even if just a little bit..... yes, i love soundgarden's diversity too...and i know (though i don't know why) techno is the new thing...but i pray to god that soundgarden DOES NOT GO THERE...they've never really been trendy, and i hope they don't start now... the thought of soundgarden going tech...i can't even write it damn it! does this thought scare the shit outta of anyone else or am i just nuts??? oh and the song that gets stuck in my head.."my wave" over and over "keep it off my wave keep it off my wave " AHHHH! drives me a little loopey.. - -----rita b. ------------------------------ From: kjm@mtool.com (Karen Monoker) Subject: shows I just have to put in my 2 cents. Granted when SG played the Patriot Center here in DC, it wasn't as large as the Arena or the Capital Center etc... But personally I think the Patriot Center is huge. I know it will never ever be possible but I want to see SG play somewhere much smaller and more intimate, like Black Cat in DC or the new 9:30, or the "new" 9:30 in Baltimore, Bohager's. I really don't understand why SG can't play smaller shows and just have more of them. I think they might not make enough money off it. But don't you guys think that SG would have more fun playing to a crowd in a more club type setting than these huge arenas? To be totally honest, I almost didn't go see SG in concert because I cannot stand the crowds at these big shows. For me it pretty much ruins the entire experience. Okay, okay, SG was fantastic, but the only reason the crowds didn't annoy me at the last show was because not that many people were there, it wasn't really packed. ------------------------------ From: Georgia Kennedy Subject: Concert ticket $$$$ To Lissa B & everyone else griping about paying big bucks for shows: In Australia, a ticket to a big concert (at a venue that might hold 8 000 people - that's a pretty big concert here in Perth!!!) you can expect to pay up to $70 for a ticket. I just paid $63 for KISS tickets, and the small SG show (about 4 500 people) was $40 a ticket. We also pay loads more for cds ($30 Aust), the same for videos, etc, etc. Spare a thought next time... georgia ------------------------------ From: tonerkin Subject: Fresh Deadly Odors At 12:37 PM 2/26/97 PST, you wrote: > >SG content...... I'll share a little home decorating tip, have ever wished >you had a Soundgarden fridge magnet? Yes, I wish I had a Soundgarden magnet BUTT alas I have never seen one. I did get a Soundgarden car air freshener in patcohli scent and my friend got in my car last night and said...."what is that nasty sort of organic smell in this car?" Now the big question is.........is it my Soundgarden air freshener? Or a dead petrified chicken mcnugget under the seat?? toni ------------------------------ From: sknauf@HK.Super.NET Subject: Re: Matt sampled for Prodigy LP At 08:06 AM 2/26/97 +0000, Deb Baker wrote: >tattoo, but the famous fork, immortalised on Dena's tee shirts, was given to >him by Shannon Hoon - and he stopped wearing it when Shannon died. I'm no expert in rock history here, but if I remember correctly, Shannon died sometime in 1995 (Fall... October I think), yet Chris still continued to wear it after that. Yes, in fact our very own Eliza touched this fork during the Chicago Sommsfest ;-) sabrina ------------------------------ From: dumo13@erols.com Subject: The Official Word on the Breakup Okay, okay, THIS is the official word on the Soundgarden Breakup: It was recently leaked from Silver Management that Ben Shepherd has left the band to join Liz Taylor's brain tumor on an intergalactic trip to another planet. It was also released that in fact HE is the killer of Jonbenet and will reveal the burial site of Jimmy Hoffa after he has departed the planet. Following this were confirmations that Ben is actually the head of the New World Order and that he was the mastermind in the government plan to genetically engineer the AIDS virus. As if this weren't enough, Mr. Shepherd admitted to being the UNABOMBER and that his father was the man hanging in the tinman scene in the wizard of Oz! That's some phenominal shit, huh? I think I read it in Rollingstone in an unauthorized story somewhere. Or maybe I heard it on MTV. Chris HEAD OF THE BEN SHEPHERD COALITION AGAINST POLITICAL CORRECTNESS ------------------------------ From: dumo13@erols.com Subject: Smokestack lightning BTW, I know I asked this over Christmas, but I never got a coherent response. I was listening to Ultramega Ok and was surprised to hear Sonic Youth's "Death Valley 69" at the end. What the hell is this? Does anyone know for sure? I've gotten plenty of speculation considering they were recording with SST, and SST is mentioned in plenty of Sonic Youth material, BUT I've never heard any specific Sonic Youth references from Soundgarden. Thanks, Chris ------------------------------ From: eliza Subject: Re: Matt sampled for Prodigy LP At 06:55 PM 2/26/97 +0800, sabrina wrote: >I'm no expert in rock history here, but if I remember correctly, Shannon >died sometime in 1995 (Fall... October I think), October 21, 1995..i am not an expert either, but I remember that day all too well...totally devestating....one of the most amazing vocalists and lyricists of the '90s (to me)... >Yes, in fact our very own Eliza touched this fork >during the Chicago Sommsfest ;-) thank you sabrina for that awesome reminder! how quickly we forget! ahhh yes, the fork...that memory will now help me get thru this day ;-) I actually have not noticed Chris wearing it very often in the past year or so, but i definitely have seen it ;-) - -eliza "Never had a problem till I stood face to face with me And I wish there was a way for me to go inside so I could see All the faces of the people who have torn a piece from me As I grew from a seed to a tree" -Shannon Hoon *********************************** We are built upon false foundations We are built upon misplaced expectations and blown away... --Handsome ------------------------------ From: "Matt Cameron" Subject: mtv`s greatest hits! Hi all for the somms`sters from europe:if snyone of you saw mtv`s greatest it was a great mtv tribute for soundgarden they sad it that it`s a great tribute for a great seattle band. somthing like that any way they had emm... flower and outshined and BHS and the 1st 3 minutes of JCP co`z they other 3 you know... and rusty cage and spoonman and they had guess what??? MIND RIOT LIVE!!!!!!!!!! i didnt watch from the biginig but the presentor kept saying like how great they are and stuff and 1 more thing that maybe in the near future mtv-europe will have a SOUNGARDEN WEEKEND!!! well i hope it will hapend. byebye now - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - --- This Mail Was Send By Matt Cameron Email:stimpy1@netvision.net.il - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - --- ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Fresh Deadly Odors From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) >Toni Wrote: > Yes, I wish I had a Soundgarden magnet BUTT alas I have never seen one. I >did get a Soundgarden car air freshener in patcohli scent and my friend got >in my car last night and said...."what is that nasty sort of organic smell >in this car?" Now the big question is.........is it my Soundgarden air >freshener? Or a dead petrified chicken mcnugget under the seat?? toni No it's not the Soundgarden freshener or the petrified chicken mcnugget - it's the last of the smell of 8 hot, sweaty, crazed people in winter coats stuffed in your little car last November after the Soundgarden concert. Ahhh memory!!!! Jamie (Village Idiot/SOMMs Mom) ------------------------------ From: "Charles M. Croslin" Subject: The Upside Christopher wrote: From: Sharon Wallace > To: LoudLoveCC@aol.com > Subject: Re: SOUNDGARDELICIOUS!!!!!! =) > Date: Wednesday, February 26, 1997 10:13 AM > > Sorry you feel as though you'll never see SG live, I can't really explain > what you are missing. I've only seen them twice and I can't begin to > explain how wonderful it was. The last time I guess was in 1992 with > Monster Magnet in New york. I was so close to Chris Cornell I could touch > him. Before they came out on stage I could see him croached on the side of > the stage like a baseball catcher. He looked like he was trying to focus > himself, or prepare himself for the intensity that was about to be his > reality for the next hour and a half. He was beyond beautiful and the > color of his eyes was incredible. I remember watching him and thinking, > can he really know how powerful and gifted he really is? Mind you , I > speak mostly of him because I don't believe I can Fully Appreciate the > music of SG because I am Not a musician, all I can say is I like it, It > moves me. Chris's voice is like liquid silver. It gets inside of you and > makes your heart feel like it will explode, I hope You do one day see them. > As far as these rumors of breakup are concerned I hope not, but at the > same time I could understand if it did happen. They've been together for > some time, Think all the people in your life as you have grown who at one > time meant everything that you don't even talk to anymore. Also, they are > in the place where their dreams or hopes have become a reallity that is not > relative, so now what? It is much the same for mariges that fall to peices > after the children are gone because the intensity and commitment came from > the dedication and stress of the task. Perhaps it is time to try and > rediscover what they loved about working together, Why they chose one > another to undertake the task of achieving the dream. > Lastly (can you believe it?), That whole ebonics thing is nothing to > joke about. It is a horror and a tragedy that attempts to serve a far > greater purpose than many realize. Ebonics is a attack on everything I > was taught and believe to be true,you may not be a black american, I am and > I can assure you, it is no joke. > > ---------- > > From: LoudLoveCC@aol.com > > To: SOMMS@MIT.EDU > > Subject: SOUNDGARDELICIOUS!!!!!! =) > > Date: Sunday, February 23, 1997 4:48 AM > > > > ok guys, here's one for ya! > > > > If SG broke up, I'd personally kick all their asses in a fight. If SG > > members started fighting (physically), me and my homegirl (bear w/ me > guys, I > > have a pt.) Susan would whoop all of their pink asses. (Hey, I kinda > like > > this ebonics stuff...) And finally, here's a thread for ya SOMMSters... > how > > about SG and New Edition fighting... I bet everyone's money is all on > Bobbi > > Brown, right? Huh, I was kinda going for Johnnie Gill myself... ;-). > > > > Would anyone else pay to see that fight? Yeah, I know there's like 6 > guys in > > New Edition, but, I kinda think just Ben could take them all w/ one arm > > behind his back and his good eye closed! Anyone else agree...??? > > > > Thanks to every darling/sweet/honey bunches of oats one of you that > emailed > > me or posted to me in comfort. Believe me, it really did help. > Especially > > considering the other girl in the accident was taken off life support > last > > night. Damn, but this grieving stuff isn't my style. Life really sucks, > > y'know? And I *STILL* have yet to attend a SG concert. Of course you > all > > are chatting away about the possibilities and lack of possibilities of SG > > breaking up, while I waste away into nothingness, thinking I'll never see > the > > greatest band in the world live. I was driving home the other day, and > BUTOW > > came on the radio. So, I go flying by my turnoff onto the main road and > the > > more I pay attention to the lyrics, the more upset I get. It was like > Chris > > was singing my feelings about never seeing them live. "I'd give you > > everything I own (to attend the concert)... wanting though I never > would... > > wishing though I never could..." How does he know how I feel? > > > > GOD DAMMIT, I'M NEVER GONNA GO!!!!!!!! GOODBYE CRUEL WORLD!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > > Did I mention that this is upsetting to me? Except for Lollapalooza, the > > closest they came was Toronto. I was so excited when my mom told me I > could > > go to the concert, anywhere in NY, except the city. WRONG!! They > decided a > > different country would be better. Damn them... =). > > > > Well, enough babbling for now. What? Did you say, "finally!". Ok, I > can go > > on... > > J/K! BTW, have I ever mentioned Chris is semi-good looking...;-)?? Just > > thought I'd ask... heh, heh, heh... > > > > love, lissa =) > > > > "Collector's fair, here I come... Collector's fair here I come... give me > all > > your SG stuff... b/c if you don't the SOMMSters will beat me up..." > > > > put it to a tune, it's kind of catchy!! ------------------------------ From: java4u@sos.net Subject: HIT PARADER! Hello Sommsters, In this months, February issue of "Hit Parader", there is a picture of Soundgarden! However, there is no write up. I just thought I'd let you all know that. Drop a line anytime!!! Later, Rachel ------------------------------ From: mark filleman Subject: march 15, 1996 digest I'm new to the digest and would like any opinions concerning a topic that was discussed on the 3/15/96 issue. It was a conversation from some girl in the MTV arena claiming that Chris Cornell came on to her against her will at some party. I find this impossible to believe given all the positive things he has said about his wife Susan and their marriage. Not to mention his many past comments berating block head girls like that. One of the things I've always admired about Chris is that he seemed to steer clear of that sort of cheesy behavior and I'd hate to think this creepy girl was telling the truth. This whole incident seems completely out of character for him. What do you think? Any comments on this would be appreciated. ------------------------------ From: Aferdity@aol.com Subject: I'm Not Stoned, But I Watned To Tell Ya.... Well, I'm sort of bummed because I called this place that said they were supposed to be getting Fresh Deadly Rarities and Stolen Prayer in at the end of Feb. and found out that all they got was a big fat out-of-print notice. So much for that. Well, I was just wondering if anyone out there could help me locate these, whether it be wanting to get rid of them or if you happen to see these anywhere. I would like to have these, of course along with BMF/SOMMS but I've about given up on that one. I've called places around here but I've had no luck. So if you could help me, please let me know. Oh, on a lighter note, I was walking to class the other day, in the rain no less (I can't get any breaks around here), and I passed this one car with a lot of stickers on it's window. Well, I get to the other side of this car and TA-DA there is this BMF sticker. I thought it was so cool that in all the cars I could have passed, this one just happen to be there. Well, being the cool fan that I am( YEA RIGHT), I scribbled a note saying "Cool Soundgarden Sticker :)" and I left it on their windshield just to let them know that there are other fans out there. I wish I could find a sticker like that one to put on my car but I do have one of those static-cling decals displayed on my windshield. Well, I'll shut up for now. Oh tonight is Grammy night!! I wonder if the guys will put in an apperance?? Let's hope they do so when they do those camera shots into the audience, maybe they'll show them. Oh well, it's just a thought!! Take care and be sweet!! Stay Cool, Kelly :) ------------------------------ From: Rebekah Henderson Subject: SG's sound clips. Martin: Sorry, I can't seem to be able to email you. I want to hear SG's Live N Loud! May Soundgarden be with you. Rebekah ------------------------------ From: KENNY BECKWITH <"beckwith@gte.net"@gte.net> Subject: SG=GRAMMY I just saw Chris on the MTV Grammy Preview show. God damn that mans is fine. He was all dressed up in a tux looking all kinds of sophisticated. But anyways when I finally calmed down and what he said sinked in I got really excited all over again. John Norris asked him if SG was going to take a break or if they were planning on starting to record again. I was expecting Chris to say the first but he didn't. He said they planned on starting to record. Now I am confussed. And for a band that is supposed to be on the verge of breaking up(insert sarcasm here) this seems a bit odd don't you think. So we can watch the Grammy's and WHEN THEY WIN we can observe their behavior toward one another and this will give us a little hint on rather or not any of these rumors are true. Did I mention that Chris looked great? Well I go now... Lisa B ------------------------------ From: Kevin Subject: nothing much... >> ... and maybe SG could get Matt's drumset to lift up and spin while >> traversing over the crowd, and they could get big fireworks that shoot >> out of tubes on the sides of the stage, and maybe even Chris and Kim >> could practice playing their guitars in uniform rocking motions... >> > And they could put weird make up on and big Platform shoes and, Ben > could breathe fire and spit Blood, Kim could shoot rockets from his > guitar, and they could write simple catchy rock tunes with lyrics like: > "You're good looking and you're looking like you should be good" > They could get stage names Matt -> The cat, Kim -> Spaceman, Chris -> > Starchild and Ben -> God of Thunder. Yeah that could work :) since the guy that started this string was talking about the Metallica concert, it's too bad that some folks had to go ahead and start taking shots at what they thought was a cheese-metal Motley Crue show, since that's nothing what the show was like. I saw them (Met.) at the Rosemont in Chicago, and I thought they put on a better show than SG. anyway... I finally got the Blow Up... singles, and I must say that I do *NOT* understand all the hype people are giving Moby's remix of Dusty... I thought it pretty much sucked, especially since it was the only other track on the single... not worth $8-10 in my opinion... I'd highly recommend getting it taped off or hearing it somewhere else to see if you like it before peeling off ten bucks for a CD copy... Kevin (Outshined) ------------------------------ From: EDTK53B@prodigy.com (MR JEFFREY D LOCKHART) Subject: RE:RE:a fight Ok so my little message ticked off some off the list veterans. It was not serious it was just a joke, but apparently you didn't get it. Much like when Big dumb Sex was meant as a joke but nobody got that either. Maybe I souldn't try to joke with you guys if you can't get it or take it. And hey chill out I mean its not like its gonna happen. I mean I laughed as I typed it I thought you (caryn) would laugh as you read it not becaue you agreed but because you might say, "oh thats stupid". In closing: If you were offended I'm sorry, but lighten up and get a sense of humor. Make no mistakes I am what you make me! Jeff ------------------------------ From: Slave4cc@aol.com Subject: Grammy's and Chris' light shines through The Grammy's are tonite!! yaaye. I will sit through all the misc. crap in hopes of seeing our beloved Soundgarden maybe win a Grammy, maybe see them if they have a "thanks" video like nominees have when theyre not there. Was it the Details article where someone said they thought they saw an amber light around Chris? And someone else replied he has that effect on people. I think this is probably very true. Just most people never notice or are able to see it, or care, or believe it. But I think there is something really special about him and this whole band. I think we could all agree on that. Slave4CC "Soundgarden is an essence, a state of mind." (CC in the van on Motorvision) p.s. Ya wanna hear something sad? My husband threw away my SG calender. What a butthead huh? *sigh*. This was his payback to me for all his hustler mags I threw away. My calender is gone :(. It didnt have naked pictures in it!! ------------------------------ From: KENNY BECKWITH <"beckwith@gte.net"@gte.net> Subject: They'll get um next year.... Well looks like Chris got all prettied up for nothing. Where was the rest of the guys? All I saw was Chris and Susan. Of all people Smashing Pumpkins? I could have lived with AIC or Rage Against The Machine. But Smashing Pumpkins. Say it ain't so. I suffered through a whole hour and a half of crap to see the Smashing Pumpkins win yet another award. This has put a damper on my week for sure. I really wanted to see Chris all dolled up in his black tux thanking all of the sommsters who without their undying love, support, and admiration SG would never be possible. And inviting everyone of the SOMMS posse to come over anytime we wanted. OH WELL. I young girl can dream can't she. I would rather have a mind opened by wonder than one closed by belief. Even though I didn't get to see Chris on stage accepting the well deserved Grammy him and the boys should have gotten, atleast Chris said that they were going to be going into the studio and not taking a break.(this info came right from the horses mouth on MTV) I hope this is true only if the boys arn't fighting because if they are they need a break from each other rather than diving into another project. Lisa B ------------------------------ From: UnknownGrl@aol.com Subject: Chris's Clothes (that 90) Does anyone now if Chris is connected with a clothing brand. He always seems to be wearing something with a 90 on it. Peace or Anarchy, Rachel ------------------------------ From: Jentje Subject: Take a deep breath... I couldn't help noticing all the Ben-posts around here lately. I kind of find it funny to see how fickle some of the people on this list really are. Am I the only one who remembers a few months age or last year when the new album came out? You know, how everybody was making posts about how Ben was a big improvement to the band, how he contributed to the albums all that other praise. Now all of a sudden, just because of some bloody RUMOR (that is all it is folks!!!) , everybody is saying how they never really liked Ben anyway and that he should leave the band. None of us really knows what's going on with the band, and if they want it to stay their buisiness we should respect that instead of panicking and comming up with all sorts of conclusions. For all we know, the "big argument" that supposedly occured at the last show could've been about patch cords or something. They've only been on vacation for two weeks and rumors and stories are flying everywhere. It's going to be pretty funny to read some of the posts in mid-summer. Toodles!! ~>Jenn "Run away, Now it's Halloween..." ------------------------------ From: "Lori S. Bingel" Subject: Bill Nye!!!! Hey - Did any of you guys see the clip Wednesday on Bill Nye Science Guy where they were doing the thing on sound, and were in a recording studio with SG while they were recording "Kickstand"? It was pretty out. Lori ------------------------------ From: tonerkin Subject: Turn off the computer If you are seeing this turn off your computer and get to a TV. Chris is at the Grammy's!!! MTV just interviewed him(6:35CST)! Oh I hope they win just so I can tape him some more!!! toni ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Turn off the computer From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) > If you are seeing this turn off your computer and get to a TV. Chris is at > the Grammy's!!! MTV just interviewed him(6:35CST)! Oh I hope they win just > so I can tape him some more!!! toni Damn wasn't he looking "FINE".. I'm with you Toni I sure hope there is more of our Chris tonight!! Jamie (Village Idiot/SOMMs Mom) ------------------------------ From: ThNrthFace@aol.com Subject: The skinny on the Man-Cow. Here it is folks, <> Mancow is just blowing smoke up your ass, probably like the trip to the show in '97 that they gave away... Your source, The List Thug ------------------------------ From: Audio Visual Production Unit Subject: silverchair CD To Brian34295@aol.com.......Hapy to help out with the purchase of that silverchair CD, just email me if you'd like me to organize it for you, Jo ------------------------------ From: Audio Visual Production Unit Subject: Down under on the upside Okay, I know this may be a silly question, but does anyone know how I can get a copy of down under on the upside??? I'm in Australia, does that make it any easier??? I'd appreciate any suggestions where I can purchase it Jo ------------------------------ From: Werewolf from Soundallot Subject: everybody in general Well, I'm not sure how this "Ben" thing got started, but it is getting kind of old. no, not kind of, VERY old. Yes I'm sure everybody knows by now who the supporters of Ben are, and also who the foes of Ben are. and I could care less of either of these.(However it dosen't mean that the flames haven't provided me with some laughs from both sides of the coin.) Fact: I don't know SG personally Fact: I could care less if I were to meet them face to face or not(I'd like to, but I don't worship them. Being a musician, I chuckle at people who quote unquote "worship" me.) Ryan "It is better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt." --a proverb ------------------------------ From: "merlin.dwc@internetmci.com" Subject: Re: anarchy; another note to vince On Tue, 25 Feb 1997, merlin.dwc@internetmci.com wrote: > Someone asked what anarchy is, and then said that they think people > who listen to "alternative" music must be advocates of anarchy. Well, > anarchy is basically disorder, esp in a political sense. "Anarchist" is > a term often used to describe someone who basically just flagrantly > ignores or breaks rules/laws and goes around complaining about the > gov't but doesn't do a thing to try and improve it. Anarchy's been the >I'm sorry, I just can't let this pass. Anarchism is not "disorder", >Anarchism is a political theory. Anarchists typically belive that >all governments are inherently flawed, and that cooperation and >social conscience should replace laws and government opression. >Most >Anarchists recognize the human tendency to oganize themselves >into >groups and the need for transit systems, etc. One form of >Anarchy is >Liberal Socalism, which is what I have tried to describe above. >Other >forms of Anarchy are based less on cooperation and more on the >primacy >of individual freedom. >Soundgarden content: I have never heard that any of the >members of >Soundgarden are themselves Anarchists. The (Artists Against >Hate and >Intolerance? what was it again?) >sticker that came with the fan club package sounded >COMPATIBLE with >Anarchism, but it isn't necessarily an Anarchist organization. >The organization also sounded compatible with Representational >Democracy, so that doesn't prove anything. >Tiffany Sorry you misunderstood me. I didn't say that *anarchism* is disorder, I said that *anarchy* is, by one definition. I know that anarchism is a recognized political theory, one which I agree w/ to an extent. But I won't get into politics. Anyway, when I said that so-called "anarchists" go around complaining about the gov't but don't do a thing to improve it, I was talking about the ones that I know personally, I wasn't speaking for anarchists in general. I apologize if I unintentionally offended any anarchists out there, I certainly didn't mean to. And if anyone wants to talk politics, I'd be more than happy to. :) ~Lorraine ------------------------------ From: "merlin.dwc@internetmci.com" Subject: tonight's the night! (and one final note to vince) Hey... Tonight's the night - *the Grammys*!!! Well, I know that they really don't matter, they're no indication of talent - Celine Dion being nominated for record of the year is proof of that - but I can't be completely indifferent to them - when your favorite band is nominated for something you want them to win. And "Pretty Noose" has got to - there's no denying it's the best. I just hope they'll be there... do you think they will? I'd be uncomfortable going to something like that too, but I really do want to see them there, just so I can think to myself - "Hey, there's my favorite band, a thousand times better than all those others, on tv, in front of an audience of millions, the best." :) And oh yeah - I just wanted to say one last thing to Vince: It was amusing for a while, but now it's getting sort of boring. Let's cut it out and move on, okay? That's all for now. . . ~Lorraine "Diamond rope, silver chain pretty noose is pretty pain. . ." ------------------------------ From: endless_nameless@prodigy.com (GRRL NIKI FREER) Subject: grrrrrrrrammy's... hell, i think the boys should have gone right up on stage, and rushed right at SP. = ) wouldn't it have been funny to see kim take the award out of billy's hands and make him cry again? = ) hee hee, but really. where does bullet with butterfly wings even compare to the complexity and mood of PN? it doesn't even come close... but then again, since i'm not a high paid know-nothing judge, what say should i have anyway? mind riot (laughing at james iha's ridiculous hair...) ____ ------------------------------ From: "merlin.dwc@internetmci.com" Subject: note to aleko & jeff Aleko... what right have you got to say that about Ben? None.You didn't even attempt to justify your remark, not that you could. In the future I hope all Beavises, Buttheads, Jeffs and Alekos with vocabularies limited to such words as "dickhead" and "homo" keep their asinine comments to themselves. ~Lorraine ------------------------------ From: Geoff Subject: SG didn't win Yeah, in case you didn't see it, Sg didn't win for Best Hard Rock performance. Smashing Pumpkins won. As if that was a surprise. Just goes to show that SG needs go-go dancers at their shows. Geoff ------------------------------ From: Jentje Subject: SG didn't win :( Aww... I was watching the Grammy's. I didn't see Soundgarden in the audience. Oh yeah, and for their category , the Smashing Pumkins won the prize :( Toodles!! ~>Jenn ------------------------------ From: Rita Bonofiglio Subject: will i ever learn... so i am sitting in front of my tv, watching an incredibly boring grammy show...waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting for soundgarden's catergory to come up...FINALLY after 1 hour and 45 minutes of dumb speeches, celine dion and one very unusual smashing pumpkins performace comes the catergory!! now i knew that the boys were not going to win against the saintly smashing pumpkins<---thats what you call sarcasm...but at least i would get a little glimpse of them when they announced their nomination... NO!!!!!! i don't even get that!! i am *pissed* off, i saw chris and a very lovely susan silver for a *fraction* of a second when toni braxton won (they were sitting behind her) ...year after god damn year these f***ing grammys dissapoint me...why in hell did i think it would be different this year? thank god for this list...its has allowed me to vent my frustration... - -----rita b. (raging mad) BRIGHT SIDE--> i got a glimpse of alice in chains for a whole SECOND... ------------------------------ From: lecocke@txdirect.net Subject: Oh Chris Hey Sommmsters, I don't know if you all already know this, but I am so excited that I don't really care. Chris was at the Grammys! I saw him on the dumb MTV preshow thingee. He looked lovely, of course. I didn't see any of the other guys, nor Susan. I'm sure she was there, dammit. Anyway, I was just so superduper excited. I HAD to tell someone. Wow. Yes, the Grammys suck because people like Sheryl Crow win best rock album (gimme a fucking break), but at least we get to see the almighty Chris all dressed up. Oh wow. I have to go drool over that tape now. Luv a very-excited Margret ------------------------------ From: Aleko Subject: Re: grrrrrrrrammy's...+ Aleko's Apology This may seem weird coming from a big Soundgarden fan but i think that Bullet with Butterfly Wings is better then Pretty Noose. The fact that lately the singles released are usually not the best songs on the albums, especially the first singles, have cost them the award (I don't think they're stressing over that). Now if Burden in my Hand or Tighter & Tighter lost to BWBW then i would be upset. If you have read the incident with Kim that caused Billy to cry you would know that is isn't a big feat to achieve. PS I'm sorry for calling Ben a dickhead earlier on. It was correctly pointed out by fellow Sommsters that i do not know him and shouldn't pass judgement on him. I was still a bit pissed off at him for ruining Jesus Christ Pose live by not bothering to play it. It wont happen again On Wed, 26 Feb 1997, GRRL NIKI FREER wrote: > > hell, i think the boys should have gone right up on stage, > and rushed right at SP. = ) wouldn't it have been funny to see kim > take the award out of billy's hands and make him cry again? = ) hee > hee, but really. where does bullet with butterfly wings even compare > to the complexity and mood of PN? it doesn't even come close... but > then again, since i'm not a high paid know-nothing judge, what say > should i have anyway? > > mind riot (laughing at james iha's ridiculous hair...) > > > ____ > > "Rock n' roll doesn't have a soul, just a dick and a wallet" --- Kim Thayil ------------------------------ From: me Subject: Re: Decorating tips Mandy Crook wrote: > > >From: me > >Subject: sg decorating tips > > >If I was mandy I would have stuck the sticker on the fridge. > > Me, how could you stick your telephone bill on the fridge with a sticker? > and if it was stuck on the fridge, then your telephone bill would cover > it.... > > cheers > Mandy stick the phone bill in the freezer. ------------------------------ From: Rebekah Henderson Subject: SG didn't win. I'm sure everyone knows this by now, but SG didn't win the Grammy. :( I had my VCR set and everything and I did get to tape Chris! On MTV's pre-Grammy show John Norris got a short interview with Chris as he was entering the Grammy thing. I taped that and I saw Chris and Susan a couple of times during the show. I really wanted to see SG win though. Oh well! Better luck next time. May Soundgarden be with you. Rebekah ------------------------------ From: Carolyn Hanel Subject: RE: A fight, a fight.....[bam!].....take THAT, you blasphemer!! On Tue, 25 Feb 1997, MR JEFFREY D LOCKHART wrote: > SG should get in thier timemachine go back to the 80's and beat=20 > the living hell out of that bunch of homos that called themselves the=20 > Culture Club, and they also need to beat the crap out of The Violent=20 > Femms and Megadeth. Okay, THAT'S IT. :-[ The day any Sommster picks on MY favourite band = is the day I get a tad aggressive. If you don't like the Violent = Femmes, JERK, at least have the decency to spell their name right!!!! = >:-| I'm in a grumpy mood, it's early in the morning, and the first post I = happen to read is dear Jeffrey D Lockhart's pathetic = bashing...........wow, what a way to start the day. Caryn wrote: >>the violent femmes were one of the best bands that the american underground of the 80's produced. go listen to the first album, if you even have the intelligence to figure out where "V" is in the alphabet, which i doubt. And to go even further here, I would venture to say that VF's first = album is one of the best debut albums by any band, ever. Their music is = far more original (they sound like no other!), zany, funny, yet dark, = sombre and thought-provoking than probably 80% of the music going = around. Mr Lockhart, have you ever even LISTENED to any of their = music???????? Carolyn the Mighty Furious What do you get? Another day older and deeper in = debt............Violent Femmes ------------------------------ From: fpthi1@student.monash.edu.au Subject: Re: Want help To any of you out there that want any Australian releases of any band, (I trust most of your musical tastes!!) I am willing to get these for you for trades of excellent quality live recordiongs of PJ, SG, Nirvana, Tool and Foo F or American (rare) vinyl of these bands. Due to recent SOMMS posts i'm talking specifically about Down Under on the Upside and associated releases but also b/c a US friend loves silverchair I have become a bit of an expert about them and don't mind getting their stuff. Fiona ------------------------------ From: Mandy Crook Subject: Decorating tips >From: me >Subject: sg decorating tips >If I was mandy I would have stuck the sticker on the fridge. Me, how could you stick your telephone bill on the fridge with a sticker? and if it was stuck on the fridge, then your telephone bill would cover it.... cheers Mandy ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 3 Issue 51] ***************************************