From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Wednesday, 19 Feb 1997 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 02:48:36 EST Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Wednesday, 19 Feb 1997 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: nigh-loyal Silver tattoos Susan Silver Sounds like false advertising to me! kim new single Re: kim Kim (Kimberly???) Re: kim Mars - Spring - Machine Guns Re: Matt/collaborations Happy vinyl huntress... Re: Happy vinyl huntress... Push Cd Re: kim Re: Soundgarden Digest, Tuesday, 18 Feb 1997 KTS mailorder mystery Re: Happy vinyl huntress... With total respect to Susan Re: Kim (Kimberly???) Tool for 20 odd lines, then a new Soundgarden thread! FoBD revisited Re: KTS mailorder mystery Re: Happy vinyl huntress... and carrying his groceries... Re: kim #somms hottub ------------------------------------------------------------ From: Deborah Baker Subject: nigh-loyal Silver Boojiboy wrote: >I was lookin' at the inside cover of the AIC unplugged album and noticed >that the management was managed by SILVER. I was under the impression >that she was a SG exclusive. Is she moonlightin' or what? Does she >manage anybody else of note? >- -Booji Boy- Sponge, Inflatable Soule (who will be of note one day!)...and one of her staff manages Sweet Water. And she used to manage Screaming Trees and U Men (seminal Seattle band). She has her very own page on Seth's site -worth checking out! UKDeb ------------------------------ From: Mercyhurst Prep Library Subject: tattoos Just thought I'd add my 2 cents on the CC tattooo thing. Does anyone know what it looks like? Last time we were in Seattle--last March--Suzy and Katy Cornell (yes, CC's siters who are in a band called Inflatable Soule w/ bro Peter) were working on designs for a tattoo that everyone in the family was going to get. At that point, according to the girls, CC was saying he'd do it if everyone else was. I'll let you know what I find out. Talk of the tattoo brought that little tidbit back to mind b/c at the time we didn't think it was really, truly going to happen! later....deb ------------------------------ From: Rebekah Henderson Subject: Susan Silver Not only does she manage SG and AIC, she also manages Sponge, Inflatable Soul (contains 3 Cornell siblings) and a band called Sweet Water (I think that's their name.) She's a busy woman! :) May Soundgarden be with you. Rebekah ------------------------------ From: tonerkin Subject: Sounds like false advertising to me! >Lorraine wrote: >A What about what that >Chicago station was doing? Giving away free tickets & stuff? >Isn't that sorta like false advertising? >I don't know... maybe it's not true. What does everybody else >think? Is there still some forlorn hope of a tour? I called the radio station here in Chicago that gave away the "trip to see Soundgarden anywhere in the US on their 97 tour" several times and after many tries and lots of different people I talked to a guy in promotions. I asked, "Did the guy who won the trip to see Soundgarden go to Hawaii to see them?" He said, "I don't know where he chose to go" I said, "well considering there are no other dates for a US tour and their fan club which is run out of their manager's office says they are not touring how can you give away a trip to a show if there is no tour?" He seemed to get nervous and said, "who are you?" I told him I was on the mailing list and we were curious about it and I bet that Silver Management might be interested in knowing why you are using the band for false adverstising?" Than he said, "can you hold on?" and was gone a long time. When he came back he said, "I just talked to my boss and he said the record company gave us the trip so you are going to have to talk to them we just gave way what they gave us" So in other words he passed the buck to A&M. Now what I don't understand why the promotional department doesn't know what they gave away and if the guy did go to Hawaii why not advertise it. That sounds like a great prize to me!! And the poor guy who won is he still waiting around to go "somewhere" to see SG?? Or did he get 4 days notice to go to Hawaii?? I am inclined to believe KOTS and accept the fact that there is no tour. UNLESS............ we can convince them to come to Las Vegas for a wild weekend with their greatest fans!!!! Sorry for building up any false hopes!! I was pretty excited myself! toni ------------------------------ From: "seth" <14804@carthage.k12.mo.us> Subject: kim how come noone ever writes about kim? he's like one of the best guitarists in the world. he also used to be a girl, isn't that wierd? maybe that's why you don't write about him, because he's a transsexual, and you're racist against transsexuals. ------------------------------ From: Stephen Butler Ford Subject: new single Hey gang, I've been hearing Rhinosaur on the radio every day for about 2 weeks now, so my guess is this is the new single. Later! ------------------------------ From: Mercyhurst Prep Library Subject: Re: kim Anyone care to comment on this piece of false info??? At 11:23 AM 2/18/97 -0600, you wrote: >how come noone ever writes about kim? he's like one of the best >guitarists in the world. he also used to be a girl, isn't that wierd? >maybe that's why you don't write about him, because he's a >transsexual, and you're racist against transsexuals. > ------------------------------ From: Stephen Butler Ford Subject: Kim (Kimberly???) Hey, I heard rumors years ago abot Kim having a sex change to become a guy, and was reminded of it by a post. is trhis true? I remember some quote about the thing he liked most about becoming a guy was choosing the size of his penis, or something to that effect. sorry for such a half baked post, but maybe i can get some closure to this afer all this time. Steve ------------------------------ From: Caryn Rose Subject: Re: kim On Tue, 18 Feb 1997, seth (not the *real* one) wrote: > how come noone ever writes about kim? he's like one of the best > guitarists in the world. he also used to be a girl, isn't that wierd? > maybe that's why you don't write about him, because he's a > transsexual, and you're racist against transsexuals. no, that's *chris*. *chris* used to be a girl. he and dave navarro were married when he was christine (and you all thought it was christopher. heh.), that's why they 'get along' so well now. and we're not racist against transsexuals -- it's *transvestites* we have a problem with. - --caryn [HEAVY on the sarcasm] ------------------------------ From: "Steven Russell Jr." Subject: Mars - Spring - Machine Guns "can you feel it now that spring has sprung can you feel it in the scattered sun..." 1. Kim isn't a woman. He's a fucking Martian for christ's sake's!!!!! Havent you seen him wearing that Marvin the Martian tshirt? huh? That's his family clan. Yes it is. For proof didnt you hear something in the news about life being found on Mars? They found it in the Red Rocks...and they showed it on Hard Copy and the X-files so you know it has to be true. I bet some of you didnt get the message from the president advising everyone to leave Earth before the giant asteroid hits. We were told to board the giant space ark? Don't you remember? The government told everyone but the stupid people...ahhhhhh :-) nevermind :-) 2. For those of you on the East Coast of the U S of A...spring is here! Allright...favourite soundgarden song that reminds you of Spring ...somewhere in CC's lyrics and SG's music there has to be a song that reminds you of Spring. The obvious one is "Seasons"...and today's favourite song from the home office in Amherst, NY..."Searching with my Good Eye Closed". I'm sure all 6 of you that havent filtered the buffalo.edu address from your email program are just thrilled to know that :-) I love the way the song builds into a surreal landscape of hope and optimism...just like Spring :-) steve - - Heavy Rotation: Cure - "Open" and "Fascination Street (extended mix)" < - - nothing says spring like the image of 'black in a sea of red', Sonic Youth - "100%", Stone Roses - "Fool's Gold", Failure - _Fantastic Planet_ and Band of Gypsy's - "Machine Gun" ------------------------------ From: taylor@stratos.net (Taylor) Subject: Re: Matt/collaborations Hello all! >SG content...not much, but I was watching the SNL performance last >night, and y'know what?? Mattster's pretty studly there!! hmmm...nice >arms... Well, I have to say that Matt was in nice form on SNL! I didn't realize how muscular he is until I saw that performance with lots of close ups. Pleasant surprise! ;) As far as collaborations go, I think SG+anyone would be interesting, but I would like to see them team up with someone very unlikely, maybe try their hands at blues/jazz. Definitely a compelling combination, for me at least. :) Taylor K. - -- "First it steals your mind and then it steals your soul..." ------------------------------ From: Slave4cc@aol.com Subject: Happy vinyl huntress... Thanks to all who helped me find colored vinyl. I really appreciate it. I dont have any yet, but if everything goes okay, I should end up with a few. At the risk of being shot down in flames, I just have to comment on a couple things: U2: A good example of how soundgarden has not let fame go to their heads like that. Trent Reznor. Trent Reznor? arrrg! dead rotting dog. talk about depressing. Do any of you guys listen to older RUSH? I think they have alot of the same good qualities as Soundgarden does. If you like postive music, try Rush Caress of Steel, its pretty good really. I havent been listening to Soundgarden lately. And then Chris came to me in a dream last night and just talked to me to remind me he was still there. I havent forgotten. Someone asked about Susan managing other bands. Sorry but I found that really hilarious. (hahahahahahahah). Sorry someone. Carol (getting flooded by the thaw) ------------------------------ From: Caryn Rose Subject: Re: Happy vinyl huntress... On Tue, 18 Feb 1997 Slave4cc@aol.com wrote: > At the risk of being shot down in flames, I just have to comment on a couple > things: > > U2: A good example of how soundgarden has not let fame go to their heads > like that. u2 wanted to be rock stars. soundgarden did not. so what? they are both honest in their goals. > Someone asked about Susan managing other bands. Sorry but I found that > really hilarious. (hahahahahahahah). > Sorry someone. she *does* manage other bands. why is this so funny? the music business has extremely high regard as an excellent businesswoman and manager. she's handled AiC unbelievably well, not to mention what she's done for sg and her other acts. - --caryn ------------------------------ From: KENNY BECKWITH <"beckwith@gte.net"@gte.net> Subject: Push Cd Hello everyone... I have a question for all the Sommsters out there that have the Push Cd. When Spoonman is on and on the part that goes All my friends are skeletons, beat the rythem with their bones. But instead of beat the rythem with their bones someone shouts Fuck Her In The Head! Does anyone know who says this? I know that Ben sings back up vocals on Spoonman, but I have also heard the Matt sings back up vocals when they play live. Or did this come from the frontman himself? I don't think Chris says it though. Is this one of Bens fits that he has ever so often(but we still adore him). I know this is useless info but I want to know anyways. So if anyone does know let me know. Today I discovered a SG song that I have been overlooking for awhile. I was sitting in class listening to my CD player. And Overfloater came on. This is a song that I haven't really paid much attention to along with the last portion of DOTU. But today for some reason it totally caught my attention. Why am I telling you all this I don't no. Maybe it is the fact that I am bored out of my mind. I wish I could contribute to the thread about which I think is better Black Hole Sun/original or Black Hole Sun/Chris solo, but I have never had the privilege to hear the solo version :( Even though the original was over played I still listen to it and think it is great. lissa- I am so bored that I went ahead and taped those things for you. When you get back to from the fair e-mail me and let me know if you want them or not. love ya... Is it just me or is this week already going by sooo slow. Lisa B I must obey the rules. I must be tame and cool. No staring at the clouds. Must stay on the ground.-CC Who ever is doing the contest/drawing for the BIMH single-could some one give me his e-mail address. I forgot to write it down and erased all my messages without thinking first. ------------------------------ From: wxs129@psu.edu (Kesa) Subject: Re: kim Hello everyone. I was a member of the list for a couple of months last spring semester, but left because I had not internet access over the summer. But I've been back for two weeks or so now, just reading the posts and getting back into the swing of things. I guess it's obvious why Shroom hasn't been posting too often, but another character I miss is Nothingman. I've heard mention of him in a couple of posts--is he still here? Under a different name (God forbid!)? I think he's at least partially responsible for my addiction to Iced Tea. ;) >how come noone ever writes about kim? he's like one of the best >guitarists in the world. he also used to be a girl, isn't that wierd? >maybe that's why you don't write about him, because he's a >transsexual, and you're racist against transsexuals. Now it's a shame that this is the first thing I chose to comment on since returning to the list. But I just have to know if this guy is serious. Well, are you? "Racist against transsexuals"? I didn't know transsexuals constituted a race. Anyway, Soundgarden is the reason I'm here. I reserved comment on this earlier because I wanted to see how the list worked after being away for almost a year. I guess it's pretty much the same, except we've got some new characters around and old ones missing for the time being. Anyway, my feelings on BHS--I really like the song because apparently I didn't hear it as much as everyone else did. Sure, I heard it and saw the video more often than any other Soundgarden song, but not enough to make me sick of it. And as for it being a mainstream song, I don't feel that that detracts from it significantly. What I see it as is a lot of people being able to appreciate Soundgarden. And if they like that song, they may be tempted to buy the album and hear more Soundgarden. Eventually, it may develop into something that may even approach what many of you feel about Soundgarden. I think we should look on these "mainstream songs" as connections for people to get addicted to something that they really should be hearing. I've always felt that the more music you can appreciate, the better off you are. If you're in a situation where you have no control over the music that's playing, you'll be most comfortable if you can appreciate whatever is playing, and the broader your interests, the more likely you can have that comfort. Now if I could only appreciate country and rap. ;) Another thing I wanted to say was that I really enjoy reading the posts of Lorraine (aka merlin.dwc I think). Lorraine, I agree with much of what you say and you seem to have the ability to communicate very well. Keep it up--that's what this list is all about. Or we could just complain about racism against "races" like transsexuals. ;) Sorry, "seth" <14804@carthage.k12.mo.us>, but I found that comment really funny. Kesa ,,,, (-_-) /_o_\ ------------------------------ From: Brian34295@aol.com Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Tuesday, 18 Feb 1997 In a message dated 97-02-18 02:48:17 EST, you write: << I got a Simple and stupid question for you guys. I've been looking for the Temple of the Dog CD and can't seem to find it anywhere. Does anyone have any suggestions of where a good place to look is? >> Sure.....just go to your local cd store, usually the places that sell more indie cds are the best for me.....and ask the dude at the counter to order you a copy. It usually takes most stores about a week to two weeks to get a cd in and they do not charge extra...at least around here....for special orders. Or, you can go to the CDNow web site......i think that it's www.cdnow.com and try to order it from them. They have about everything that is on a major label and i know people that have ordered from them before with no problem. Hope that i helped you out! Later... Brian34295@aol.com---------------->dead to the world ------------------------------ From: Georgia Kennedy Subject: KTS mailorder mystery This might be a little late, but here it is anyway. I was reading back over some mail over the last month or so, looking for a post I got from KTS regarding a bootleg I ordered, Blow up the Outside. I noticed that there were several posts from people asking if anyone had actually received anything from these people after ordering! My heart sunk, I broke out into a sweat, you know the general feeling you get. Anyway, I mailed them about it, they said they are out of stock, and have this disc on back order, and to please be patient. Does this make any other KTS orderers feel any better? georgia ------------------------------ From: KAISERVRBL@aol.com Subject: Re: Happy vinyl huntress... (Caryn Rose) writes: << u2 wanted to be rock stars. >> Well if that's true (and we all know damn well in the beginning it WASN'T) they sure as hell sold them sold as something entirely different and more pure. Thank God Soundgarden has the integrity to honestly portray themselves and stick to making art instead of compliling a pile of shit, forcing it on a public that respected what they used to do, and charging $51.00 a ticket to come to a fucking football stadium to see their CLOWN ACT that they laughingly have the balls to pass off as actual music. U2 has turned into a joke. And any comparison to Soundgarden is a fucking travesty. Soundgarden are *artists*, U2 are sold out, used-to-bes, greedy, pompous, money mongers. Lance "When it all adds up, you don't mean that much to me......" ------------------------------ From: Slave4cc@aol.com Subject: With total respect to Susan I better just say right now since one person took it wrong already, I wasnt mocking Susan in any way. I was nicely mocking the person who didnt know this basic knowledge that yes, Susan manages more bands than just Soundgarden. And she's DAMN good at it too! ;) I would never degrade Susan!! God bless Susan Silver!! Amen Carol ------------------------------ From: mshaw@lib.occ.cccd.edu (RoseeMisst) Subject: Re: Kim (Kimberly???) >Hey, > I heard rumors years ago abot Kim having a sex change to become a >guy, and was reminded of it by a post. is trhis true? I remember some >quote about the thing he liked most about becoming a guy was choosing the >size of his penis, or something to that effect. sorry for such a half >baked post, but maybe i can get some closure to this afer all this time. > Steve It would be amusing if this actually became a rumor outside the mailing list. Check out the headline for a fanzine like TeenBeat(is it still around?): "THE ROCKY HORROR OF SOUNDGARDEN" - --sg guitarist 'blows up the outside world' about his femininity! hehehehehe...just having fun here. now CHRIS is the one who looked more feminine in his earlier days sans facial hair... RoseeMisst ------------------------------ From: Greg Dunbar Subject: Tool for 20 odd lines, then a new Soundgarden thread! >...I know all about how Maynard was molested at age 11 by his dad after his mom >died, etc. etc. and I, thank god, cannot relate to that... You do not have to relate to the exact meaning or reason a song was written to relate to the song. >I am not saying they are not intense, but they do not have much real meaning to >me (though I totally and respect his need to use his music to heal himself) Well at least he heals himself instead of hurting himself, like Jonathan Davis from Korn >..but 30 songs about being molested has no impact on my life What a totally insane suggestion! If Intolerance, Sober, Bottom, Swamp Song, Undertow, Disgustipated, Stinkfist, Hush, Hooker With A Penis, Aenema, Pushit, Third Eye etc. etc. etc. etc. have anything to do with being molested then please send me to a mental hospital because I mustn't be getting the point. > (i know there are a couple of exceptions to their song content, i am speaking >in generalities...) Even still that's crazy! Sorry to go on with the Tool thing, but Tool rule and I can't see Maynard getting ridiculed here. - ------------------------------------------------ OK, Soundgarden content so I don't get unsubbed (which no-one might read anyhow!) Maybe I'll start a new thread, Yay! Lets see how many people want to respond to this one. I was thinking about other bands might go doing Soundgarden covers. For example I could picture Bernard Fanning from Powderfinger singing all kinds of Soundgarden songs. The end of Slaves & Bulldozers, I could picture Bernard singing the bit that when Chris goes, 'every word I said, is what I mean..etc' in a deeper voice. I think he'd do Blow Up The Outside world really well also. I can picture Eddie Vedder and PJ doing Fresh Tendrils for some reason. Primus would be able to do Half pretty well! Plant & Page doing Limo Wreck would sound cool! Sting could do Bootcamp. The Ramones could do Ty Cobb.....I wonder if Soundgarden will ever get a tribute album when they get old and decrepit (ha ha what a thought!) like Sabbath, Kiss, Zeppelin, Hendrix etc. Maybe if they ever get to the stage that they're the biggest rock band in the world (well maybe not, Metallica seem to have that title). So there ya go, see what bands/covers you can come up with! Bye! - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - "My mind is open to new ideas. The divine mind is inexhaustible. The spirit is ever active in me. There is no weary or monotonous action in spirit. It is forever new and vibrant with new ideas. I know that I am continually receiving new impressions from life. New, better and fuller ways of living. I let the newness, freshness and originality of spirit permeate my entire consciousness" - Ernest Holmes - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Visit "The Seas Of Cheezcake" http://www.cbl.com.au/~greg/index.html - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ------------------------------ From: Caryn Rose Subject: FoBD revisited i just bought this cool cd in an auction... it's tracks from PJ's "Self Pollution Radio"... mostly pj of course, mudhoney, mad season and one sg track... i had it playing in the background just now.... i'm working in about three different windows... anyway, it went from mad season to this version of FoBD which i had COMPLETELY forgotten about... and it sounds kinda mad-season-ish (if that makes sense) so it didn't register... it is playing at a low volume out of my computer speakers (which are pretty good, but not like full volume at home, there i'd have had no excuse). anyway, i didn't recognize the damn song until the chorus and all i can think is, 'WHY ISN'T THIS THE VERSION ON THE ALBUM????!' my complaint with FoBD is *not* that it was overplayed. radio could overplay this version to their hearts' content and i would LOVE it. my problem with FoBD is that i think the album version is, well, insipid. *this* version (of which i will be making a .wav for seth's page later) has *balls*. this version is worthy of sg, imo. anyway... i'd forgotten all about this, or maybe i never realized it even... been so long since i've listened to all of SPR all the way through... now if i had 'no attention' from SPR (also the better version imo) i'd be WAY happy... - --caryn ------------------------------ From: Ross Filipek Subject: Re: KTS mailorder mystery Wow. I wonder why the hell they didn't e-mail me and tell me they were out of stock. Will they go ahead and send it when they get it back in stock or will I have to re-order it? By the way, where did you get their e-mail address? Ross - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Wed, 19 Feb 1997, Georgia Kennedy wrote: > This might be a little late, but here it is anyway. I was reading back over > some mail over the last month or so, looking for a post I got from KTS > regarding a bootleg I ordered, Blow up the Outside. I noticed that there > were several posts from people asking if anyone had actually received > anything from these people after ordering! My heart sunk, I broke out into > a sweat, you know the general feeling you get. Anyway, I mailed them about > it, they said they are out of stock, and have this disc on back order, and > to please be patient. Does this make any other KTS orderers feel any better? - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ From: SJordet@aol.com Subject: Re: Happy vinyl huntress... On 18-02-97, Carol (Slave4cc) wrote: >Do any of you guys listen to older RUSH? I think they have a lot of the same good >qualities Soundgarden does. Obviously, someone who shops at my local Target thinks the same thing. One day, I was making my way over to the CD department. I stopped first at the "S" (aka Soundgarden) section, just to look and see what they had, to laugh at their ignorance in stock. =) Upon looking under the black marker made of flimsy plastic that said "Soundgarden," I saw NOT our beloved masters' art, but that of Rush. It must have been a mistake, I thought. I wanted to check the division marked "Rush," just to confirm my thoughts. Sure enough, Soundgarden was taking Rush's place on the rack! Not amused with this, I changed them back to where they should rightfully be - you should have seen the looks on the faces of the Target staff. =) Also, I had a dream the other night (I've had the song in my head all day, I'm *going* to play with it's lyrics =) about Matt. It was kind of strange. Matt was in an interview somewhere - first I was reading it out of a magazine, then I was watching it on the idiot box, then I was there actually interviewing him. I remember he was wearing a black Henley-collared shirt and *tight* (a devilishly sexual grin follows this statement) blue jeans. In my dream, he was not only a powerhouse drummer (as he is in real life) but also an "amateur coreographer." I have absolutely NO idea what that is supposed to mean, but that's what I dreamt. I guess it meant that had coreographed SG concerts along with ballets and musicals. The interview showed clips of people performing his dances (the interview on the idiot box) and he WAS JUST ABOUT TO DANCE HIMSELF when my alarm went off. 6:00 had NEVER come so early in my life! I was a bit urked to NOT be able to see the second sexiest man on earth actually dance. I can now only imagine his lean body moving gracefully across the floor like... WELL, I'm getting a little ahead of myself aren't I?? <> I guess that should do for now. If anyone has the last half of that dream PLEASE LET ME KNOW. =) Sweet dreams of Matt dancing (naked =), Benlover (who occasionally whores her principles in favor of other gorgeous musicians =) ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: and carrying his groceries... On Thu, 13 Feb 1997, seth wrote: > That would be Sonic Youth's 'Death Valley 69' if I remember > correctly. SY wrote the music, and Lydia Lunch and SY co-wrote the > lyrics. Originally recorded in 1984 in New York and released on 7" > with SY's 'Brave Men Run (In My Family)' [My So Called Records #17]. > well, now that we all know our esteemed list admin for the smart alec he is (please don't unsub me. I'll be good), does anyone know whether the snippet of 'death valley' used on ultramega is different to the version contained on the original record? I feel like doing work on the faq, but the virtual legwork can be left to someone else :) first to answer gets you-know-whatted... ----------------------------------- it's come to this can't bear to go to the straight life I seldom know can't undo this enebrio words - tad dameron ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Pamilyn1@aol.com Subject: Re: kim In a message dated 97-02-18 21:30:40 EST, you write: << Anyone care to comment on this piece of false info??? At 11:23 AM 2/18/97 -0600, you wrote: >how come noone ever writes about kim? he's like one of the best >guitarists in the world. he also used to be a girl, isn't that wierd? >maybe that's why you don't write about him, because he's a >transsexual, and you're racist against transsexuals. >> This is to increadibly ridiculous to comment on really, maybe it is a joke. ~Pamilyn ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: #somms hottub ...now open for business. tonight's topic: do soundgarden play pool better than pearl jam? or would jerry cantrell kick their butt too???? discuss. ;-) - --caryn ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 3 Issue 43] ***************************************