From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Tuesday, 18 Feb 1997 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 02:37:43 EST Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Tuesday, 18 Feb 1997 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: sg Re: in disguise as no one knows... Re: Flower pic and CC solo BHS The site is down charles peterson - chitown sommsters only Addendum to the site is down Re: Soundgarden Digest, Sunday, 16 Feb 1997 Re: Soundgarden Digest, Sunday, 16 Feb 1997 Ty Cobb Promo... Re: Soundgarden Digest, Sunday, 16 Feb 1997 Re: the collectors fair... temple of the dogs Re: Soundgarden Digest, Sunday, 16 Feb 1997 King of the SOMMS RE: in disguise as no one knows... ...and jumping right into #25 Re: in disguise as no one knows... out of the darkness and into the light J Files - SG Help!!!!! SCREW BRAD PITT! BEN SHEPHERD IS THE SEXIEST MAN ALIVE!!!!! Website is somewhat back to normal (was Re: Help!!!!!) newbie damage nigh-loyal Silver Re: FOR GEORGIA Black hole solo ------------------------------------------------------------ From: sky2girl@tomco.net Subject: sg Thanx for putting me on the list.Diggin' the exchange. Have a great week. File your taxes and get money for sg gear. I want spring! Luv, El ------------------------------ From: sky2girl@tomco.net Subject: Re: in disguise as no one knows... GRRL NIKI FREER wrote: > > hey sommsters- > > quick attempt at a small thread start... a chainsaw these past couple of days...> > for those of you who can still listen to BHS, which version > do you like better; the original long CD version, or the new solo > version cc did during the past tour? > personally, i totally favor the CC solo. even though we all know he > would have chose to not sing that song one more time if he really > wanted to, this version instills such a deep feeling inside me. it > seems so passionately hurt and sad and filled with deep sincerity of > feeling... i dunno, the way the words were slowed down and the notes > he hit were lower nearly the whole time, and then how right near the > end of the 2nd chorus he hit the higher, louder notes... to me, its > one of the most amazing versions of a song i've ever heard. > i hope someone else cares to comment on this, or i'll be just > talking to myself... > > mind riot > I like the cd vers. better. I luv the live performance by cc, but it's so much better with the full-on electric /fx music supporting it. I really enjoyed seeing sg twice in 96 but want to see them more. They sounded so great and creative and definitely psychedelic. I hope the new cd is more like this space that I heard live. Don't get me wrong- I'm so into the metal, I would like to hear them create a mutant space/metal/psyche even heavier than ever. Luv, sky ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Flower pic and CC solo BHS From: kalyssa@juno.com (Katie E Williams) On Sat, 15 Feb 1997 14:29:03 -0500 (EST) SJordet@aol.com writes: >Now, pardon my ignorance, but where can I find Chris' solo version of >BHS? > The person who posted about the solo version of BHS is talking about his live performances of the song this past year... instead of the whole band doing the song Chris went up on stage by himself and sang it ... I don't know if you can find it on any bootleg or not unless there's a cd out of one of his recent concerts... As for me.. I prefer the solo version.. it's probably because the other one's been overplayed and his solo was a nice change ~Katie ------------------------------ Subject: The site is down From: seth If any of you have tried to access the website lately, I guess you've discovered that it's down. It seems that all of a sudden sgi.net is upgrading to their new servers; each time they had attempted it in the past, something went wrong so they canceled the operation. This time it looks like they decided to do it without advance knowledge (everything on www.sgi.net is inaccessible). I have no idea how long it will be down... seth ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: charles peterson - chitown sommsters only as many of you know, charles peterson is a legendary seattle photog, he was in 'hype!' and he is probably best known in this neighborhood for his photo on the cover of 'screaming life'. he's doing a show in chicago (wish to hell he'd do one HERE) and i'd highly recommend going. his work is probably pricey but it's the kind of thing that's like buying art... and i'm sure he'd give you his card so you could contact him about sg photos ;-) - --caryn >> "Nirvana+PearlJam >> through the lens" > >> photographs by >> Charles Peterson > >> Febuary 21-March 30 1997 >> artist's reception >> Friday Feb.21, 7-11pm > >> AT > >> Reverb Gallery >> 2137 W. Belmont >> Chicago, IL. 60618 >> (773)525-0456 >> Open Sat-Sun. 11-6 >> 0r by appointment > > > > ------------------------------ Subject: Addendum to the site is down From: seth You actually might be able to connect to the site, but the last updated date should be February 13, not February 4. They're working off an old version of the page... seth ------------------------------ From: Cornell32@aol.com Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Sunday, 16 Feb 1997 << I absolutely *adore* the cover of the Flower single - y'know, the one where the guys are all standing on a roof someplace. >> Yeah, I definitely know this one! In fact, I've had a postcard of that pic sitting on the dash of my car for years! I like to think of it like the carrots they used to dangle in front of a horse's face to keep them moving....it keeps me drivin on!!! << Does anyone know where I might be able to get a poster of this, or a copy of it or something, anything??? >> I personally have never seen a poster of it, but the 12" single provides a lovely picture for display! << It's the only picture of Chris with long hair that *really* does something for me >> Okay, now to me, this is completely insane!!! I don't know any guy who doesn't look better w/ long hair (except maybe the Thug..or so he says), but Chris w/ long hair is as beautiful as a human being can possibly be! But, of course, his short little curls are definitely *amazing*. To each his own! << people don't find it as weird if you stare at a poster as they do if you satre at the cover of a CD, I have found out >> Who cares?! I stare at a keychain all day! But I'll be glad to keep an eye out for a poster for ya, girlie! Chris looks sooooo golden in that pic...and those boxer-lookin shorts...Anyone know where that pic was taken? Thug? Shroomy? I want to stand in that very spot!!! Hope to see some of my fellow SOMMSters in March in Seattle!!! Yayay! The peachiest SOMMSter, Leslie =) ------------------------------ From: Cornell32@aol.com Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Sunday, 16 Feb 1997 << Tool sounds good but for me there is no meaning, no imagery that means very much to me - sure it is angry and intense, but does it actually mean anything in the big picture? >> What??? No meaning or imagery to Tool?? I just recently got into Tool, and frankly, every song on Aenima disturbs me as much as 4th of July or Room a 1000 Years Wide...or Megalomania by Black Sabbath. And imagery?? You ever seen 'Eraserhead'? That's what Tool does to me. Definitely some David Lynch visuals goin on there. Maybe you aren't listening closely enough to the lyrics! They are very depressing, but have entered my life at a time which makes them very meaningful. Give 'em another listen when you're really stressed out and bummed! Sorry....I know this isn't very SG related, but neither is U2, so I thought I'd put my 2 cents worth in! Les (damn, I never post, then I do 2 in one day! Must be the caffeine...) P.S. "I hope someone in your family dies soon..." ------------------------------ Subject: Ty Cobb Promo... From: Brydon Cheyney CS95 'Hard Headed, Fuck You All' I think I can remember someone telling the list about this before, but there seemed to be a bit of confusion about it... I was at a record fair this morning, and while rooting through the usual copies of the BIMH, PN and BOTOW singles, I found a Limited Edition Numbered (436, I think) promo copy of 'Ty Cobb' ... And like whoever first mentioned this said, 'Hard Headed, Fuck You All' is proundly emblazoned on the front cover, black writing on a green background, in *MASSIVE* text!!!! It seems this ain't the censored version... Just in case anyone else is interested I also saw a 4 track promo for DOTU, which had a yellow cover, can't remember the design, sorry... and an 'On Tour' promo with Flower, JCP and Hands All Over... I think... I don't pay too much attention to promo's if they have tracks I've already got... Later, Brydon ------------------------------ From: eliza Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Sunday, 16 Feb 1997 At 03:31 PM 2/16/97 -0500, Cornell32@aol.com wrote: >What??? No meaning or imagery to Tool?? I just recently got into Tool, and >frankly, every song on Aenima disturbs me as much as 4th of July or Room a >1000 Years Wide...or Megalomania by Black Sabbath, etc.etc.etc. I have received a few emails like this, so I want to respond ( i will tie in SG somehow)....Yes, Tool has intense meaning and imagery, *however*, i was talking about lyrics which have "big picture" meaning...I know all about how Maynard was molested at age 11 by his dad after his mom died, etc. etc. and I, thank god, cannot relate to that...I am not saying they are not intense, but they do not have much real meaning to me (though I totally and respect his need to use his music to heal himself)..but 30 songs about being molested has no impact on my life (i know there are a couple of exceptions to their song content, i am speaking in generalities...) Chris Cornell (and Bono), and a few others, however, have written some lyrics which say something profound and significant about the state of the world and relate to *all* of us, not just those who have been through a similar tragic event...If you live in this world, on this planet, you can relate and derive meaning from them...Yeah, some of Maynard's words are actually more *disturbing* than 4th of July, but 4th of July, RTYW, etc. say so much more that i can relate to and actually have value...Whereas Maynard's words are totally personal, Cornell and Bono's words are (generally) more global, and thus more meaningful to me (again, this is all my opinion...) - --eliza wondering if i am becoming australian ;-) *********************************** We are built upon false foundations We are built upon misplaced expectations and blown away... --Handsome ------------------------------ From: Rita Bonofiglio Subject: Re: the collectors fair... Lissa wrote: >SG content...not much, but I was watching the SNL performance last >night, >and y'know what?? Mattster's pretty studly there!! hmmm...nice arms... glad to see someone else has noticed that matt cameron is more than just "the nice one"...come on matt cameron hootchies, i know you are out there!! yes yes, the music is all that should matter, not their looks, but hey..i am HUMAN and matt is pretty d*a*m*n* pretty! LUCKS LAST MATCH: those general hospital quotes are TOO funny..keep em coming!! EXUSE ME CARYN!! when did *this* somms disc come out..how come i didn't hear about?? why am I the last to know everything?--->please note the serious sarcasm in this people!! ;-) - -----rita b. ------------------------------ From: KRAKHEAD54@aol.com Subject: temple of the dogs I got a Simple and stupid question for you guys. I've been looking for the Temple of the Dog CD and can't seem to find it anywhere. Does anyone have any suggestions of where a good place to look is? peace\love\SG *~PAM~* ------------------------------ From: William J Murphy Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Sunday, 16 Feb 1997 i need to get the somms cd anyone who has a version of it and are willing to sell let me know, try and be reasonable i know that it is very very hard to find. ------------------------------ From: gene Subject: King of the SOMMS Hey fellow SOMMSizens, I was just relaxing and watching "King of the Hill", the cartoon on FOX-TV. The characters were all in a buffet restaurant. As they stood in line, the silverware were all twisted forks!! I busted out laughing! Does anyone know if Mike Judge is a SG fan? - -- ^ ----- \___/ ----- ; > gene ------------------------------ From: Carolyn Hanel Subject: RE: in disguise as no one knows... Mind Riot asked: >> for those of you who can still listen to BHS, which version=20 do you like better; the original long CD version, or the new solo=20 version cc did during the past tour?=20 >> personally, i totally favor the CC solo.......... to me, its=20 one of the most amazing versions of a song i've ever heard.=20 >> i hope someone else cares to comment on this, or i'll be just=20 talking to myself... [waving madly while jumping up and down] I'll talk to you, Mind Riot! :-) I agree with you. That solo version = is beautiful. I STILL haven't written up my review of the Big Day Out = (and I have a big Ben tantrum from that concert to discuss, to add to = his list of recent ones), and I STILL have about 100 or more Somms posts = to read, but I DO have a few seconds to respond here! ;-) It's the way CC pauses before singing most of the lines that makes this = solo version seem to have more soul than the album version. It's like = he's really thinking about what he's saying, the emotion he's trying to = get across to the listeners. And the way, at both concerts I saw him = sing this, that the crowd came to a halt and listened to this song in = silence (i.e. crowd surfing actually stopped for a few minutes, praise = the lord) is a sign of the song's power. Cheers, all! =20 Carolyn the Muddy Frankfurter I'm the root of all that's evil, but you can call me Cookie.....The = Bloodhound Gang ------------------------------ From: Seth Subject: ...and jumping right into #25 Hey As along as this whole contest thing seems to be on a roll, I have something of my own to offer to the masses...a Burden In My Hand CD single (Australian), courtesy of the stupid f**ks at On Cue that wouldn't know a UK import if it jumped up and bit them, well you get it. It is in a cardboard sleeve with all the stickers and stuff still on it. The track list is: Burden in My Hand, Karaoke, Bleed together, and the Birth Ritual demo. Even though it isn't what I ordered, it's still a cool collection of tunes, so I figured somebody should have it. You know the drill. E-mail by Friday, Feb. 21 to participate. Type something relevant for a subject, please. Winner picked at random by my pet newt, who just happens to be psychic. I'll announce the lucky winner around Monday or so. Good Luck, Kiddies! Later Seth W. ------------------------------ From: Vince Varkey Subject: Re: in disguise as no one knows... On Fri, 14 Feb 1997, GRRL NIKI FREER wrote: > hey sommsters- > for those of you who can still listen to BHS, which version > do you like better; the original long CD version, or the new solo > version cc did during the past tour? I would have to say that the original long CD version of BHS is cooler. Think about it for a sec. Pretend that BHS was just released yesterday. We would all be praising it and saying how it is this great SG song..but the fact that it has been overplayed to death changes that for some people. The fact is that it is a very very good song with great lyrics, in my opinion. The solo version is great but the original still affects me more for some reason. I know I am probably in the minority here. - -vince ------------------------------ From: Vince Varkey Subject: out of the darkness and into the light What's up sommsters. Here is a semi-new thread for you. I have always wondered what it would be like if Chris Cornell and Trent Reznor collaborated on a project. Intriguing ain't it? Anyway, what collaborations would you all like to see happen with Chris and the boys? Also, does anyone know anything about a potential new single from SG? It was rumored that Ty Cobb was going to be it but who knows. Hey I just came up with yet another thread (am I talented or what?). What b-sides would you all like to see on future sg singles? I would love to see SG place all three of the Moby remixes of Dusty on one. That would be very cool. Anyway, what do you all think? - -vince ------------------------------ From: Mandy Crook Subject: J Files - SG Hi guys, I know this is a big ask and pretty late in the piece but did any of you Australian SOMMSters tape the SG J files? if anyone did, is there anyway I could get a copy? I didnt hear it. Cheers Mandy getting ready for Tool. ------------------------------ From: "The Coleman Family" Subject: Help!!!!! Hey Everyone! I'm having a little trouble getting into Seth's Unofficial SG Website,..... it keeps saying FORBIDDEN or something. Please help as I am lost without it. Thanx jcoleman@headwaters.com ------------------------------ From: SJordet@aol.com Subject: SCREW BRAD PITT! BEN SHEPHERD IS THE SEXIEST MAN ALIVE!!!!! Hi. =) I went to an underground-used record, disc, tape store the other day, in hopes of finding something both rare and Soundgarden. Well, I asked the guy behind the cash register - this guy must have been in the back room tending to his bong, or something, there was NOTHING behind his eyes except the urge for a Slim Jim - if the store happened to carry any used Soundgarden material (they're doing consrtuction so everything over there is a haphazrd mess). I was specifically looking for Fresh Deadly Rarities or Stolen Prayers. Well, the guy disapeared into the back room for about ten minutes (and I'm not so sure he was looking for any CD's) and the kid next to me leans over and says "White Zombie kicks Soundgarden's ass." This from a pimply-faced 19-year-old wearing a Bush t-shirt. Then he smiled at me. Ugh, it gave me the shivers. ANYWAY, the stoney cash register dude popped out of the back room and told me all they had was a Badmotorfinger album. When I got home I called every used CD store in my phone book and none of them had either disc. I should probably get to the point, shouldn't I? POINT OF THIS POST >>>>>> Will anyone out there who has one or both of these recordings be so kind as to send a copy my way? I would be eternally greatful, and I have access to other rare SG recordings around here that I could hook you up with. Also, for some reason I have not been able to find any of the BUTOW singles anywhere. If anyone could help me find them I would also be greatful. Thanks much to anyone who can help, Benlover =) ------------------------------ Subject: Website is somewhat back to normal (was Re: Help!!!!!) From: seth > I'm having a little trouble getting into Seth's Unofficial SG Website,..... > it keeps saying FORBIDDEN or something. Please help as I am lost without > it. It should be up now, though the CGI stuff (counter, random link, random quote) may not work for a while. At least what you will see now is the most current version of the site. seth ------------------------------ From: CL Miller Subject: newbie damage This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --------------16F32FCF7CE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit a new bmf/somms. . .what? huh? what? huh? hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. . . that's the best one i've heard in a while. . . <> don't mean to poke fun at other's ignorance. . .if you find any in me, let me know! anyway, this weekend, my sweetheart (ugh) bought me the butow singles AND the tablature book for bmf. so excited i was (if i remember correctly, i peed my pants). i love the moby mix of "dusty". . .if you have it, crank your stereo up at the very beginning and get a truly blessed taste of Cornell. . .wet and sticky was I! p.s.-seth, i'm going to attempt sending you the weird al thing. . .hope it works! as for u2, sg, i only really started getting into u2 when "zooropa" and into sg when "superunknown" were released. HOWEVER! this doesn't mean that i was a trendy little supersucker who parasitically moved from one pop fad to the next. . .i love stuff from "applebite" and "pretty noose" all back to "beyond the wheel" and "smokestack lightning" (and all in between). i think that u2 is a fantastic band, but as to comparing them to soundgarden, all i'll say is. . .(i don't hear u2 commenting on THEIR e-mail list???) love and fresh deadly roses to all the pretties, chris - --------------16F32FCF7CE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="mail_ender.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="mail_ender.txt" Check out my store's site!! http://www.MovieStop.com/ My personal video favorites of the week: Welcome To The Dollhouse Trainspotting Maybe...Maybe Not - --------------16F32FCF7CE-- ------------------------------ From: Booji Boy Subject: nigh-loyal Silver I was lookin' at the inside cover of the AIC unplugged album and noticed that the management was managed by SILVER. I was under the impression that she was a SG exclusive. Is she moonlightin' or what? Does she manage anybody else of note? - -Booji Boy- ------------------------------ From: KAISERVRBL@aol.com Subject: Re: FOR GEORGIA Georgia, Please E-mail me privately. I need to talk to you. Lance ------------------------------ From: Peter Taylor Subject: Black hole solo Reply to eliza: Where did you here the solo version of BHS? I heard it at the Melbourne BDO and there concert the next night. I must say that the heavy version of BHS still moves me, and makes me fell just so out of this wworld that there are only a few other songs to which I fell the same, but I've heard the solo version twice now and there's definatly something sacred about it, it's kinda like it's a naked version or something. It was excellant!Do you know if it's on a cd single anywhere or anything? Lowd Love>> I won't swear to this, but I'm preety sure a saw a copy of it in my local Blockbuster music store in melbourne.. I didn't think much of it at the time, I hadn't heard of sooms then so I just (stupidly) assumed that it was just another one of many soundgarden cd's. I suggest you try one of your local blockbuster stores if they have them where ever your from! Good luck trying to find it. I'm on a serch for it myself at the moment. Nicola. ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 3 Issue 42] ***************************************