From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Friday, 14 Feb 1997 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 01:15:58 EST Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Friday, 14 Feb 1997 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: Fwd: Soundgarden takes the summer off Mosh video SHROOM Re: Painted blue across my eyes... Re: Soundgarden Re: Fortissimo For anyone interested... washington dc gathering on friday 2/14 Re: For anyone interested... Re: show review & photos Live pics blood and wine mosh's video Introduction and cool vinyl links Alive In The Superunknown, Goldmine, & BHS #1 Re: Alive In The Superunknown, Goldmine, & BHS #1 SOMMSfest Chicago '96 photos Re: Wake Up! used my inspiration for a guillotine... Re: SOMMSfest Chicago '96 photos it won't be lonely for long... Wake Up! Re: SOMMSfest Chicago '96 photos Re: SOMMSfest Chicago '96 photos Re: it won't be lonely for long... Re: used my inspiration for a guillotine... even MORE Chicago pics I need you building bridges in my way...(ha! get that one, perlman!) ------------------------------------------------------------ From: endless_nameless@prodigy.com (GRRL NIKI FREER) Subject: Fwd: Soundgarden takes the summer off well, it's official now. they're not coming back this summer... = ( wah, i really need to see them again. = ( oh well, we should have a new album soon, like next summer maybe. that's good. = ) but hearing about the hawaiian ben explosion, this may just be a great thing that the summer tour is cancelled. now, what about those tickets that the Chicago station was giving away for "any where on SG's 97 US tour" ??? ? mind riot << Start of Forwarded message via Prodigy Mail >> From: Soundgarden Subject: Soundgarden takes the summer off Date: 02/12 Time: 03:10 PM Return-Path: owner-soundgarden@speakeasy.org Received: from eve.speakeasy.org (daemon@eve.speakeasy.org [199.238. 226.1]) by pimaia3w.prodigy.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA179380; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 15:09:15 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by eve.speakeasy.org (8.8. 5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA14459 Received: by eve.speakeasy.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Wed, 12 Feb 1997 11:45:52 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by eve.speakeasy.org (8.8.5/8.7.3) id LAA09091; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 11:45:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from straw.sonarchy.org (hades@straw.sonarchy.org [199.238. 226.53]) by eve.speakeasy.org (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA09067; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 11:45:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from hades@localhost) by straw.sonarchy.org (8.8.5/8.7.3) id LAA09139; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 11:48:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from [199.238.226.148] (ppp24.speakeasy.org [199.238.226. 148]) by eve.speakeasy.org (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA08880 Message-Id: <199702121945.LAA08880@eve.speakeasy.org> To: "Soundgarden@speakeasy.org" Subject: Soundgarden takes the summer off Date: Wed, 12 Feb 97 11:35:33 -0500 From: Soundgarden X-Mailer: E-Mail Connection v2.5.03 CC: Pope Dubious Provenance II Sender: owner-soundgarden@speakeasy.org - -- [ From: Soundgarden * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] -- SOUNDGARDEN TAKES THE SUMMER OFF Hawaii shows last Soundgarden show of 1997 Soundgarden wraps up its touring cycle for Down On The Upside with two headlining shows in Hawaii. The band just finished headlining the Big Day Out tour in New Zealand and Australia. Soundgarden will return home to take their first summer off since 1988 and will resume writing in the Fall. << End of Forwarded message >> ____ and if i'm condemned let me rest on my pillow and dream of those moments so few and if i'm blessed i'll be chasing your shadow there i go...nowhere... nowhere but you... ------------------------------ From: Slave4cc@aol.com Subject: Mosh video Just so ya know, if anyone doesnt yet have "Hello, we are Soundgarden" the guy at Mosh video was real speedy at sending it once he got my $$. Its not bad. All the Superunknown vid's are off the cd rom in case you already have that. But the live stuff and the ToTD song is cool. Question for the day: What does the "90" shirt mean?? Question #2: Know where I can get any Soundgarden posters?? Laterz Carol ------------------------------ From: Natalie Subject: SHROOM Does anyone know if shrooms computer is back online?...ive been trying to access her home page, and it tells me it is not available at this time!...maybe i have the wrong address,...can someone gve it to me again?...privately! thanks, Natalie ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Painted blue across my eyes... From: Carolyn wrote: >No amount of playing Soundgarden's music in your stereo will *ever* live = >up to that feeling you get when you experience them live. You know, up until I saw your post I was firmly in the lots of new albums camp. But you're right, Carolyn, Soundgarden live is an awe inspiring thing. And I know when I go for a while without seeing them (like I did while I was busy having my kids) I start jonesing. But, knowing how they feel about touring, I guess I would rather have them continue recording and not tour if the choice was between that and nothing. I consider myself very lucky for having been able to see them as often as I have. I'm also glad I was able to see them several times before all the "hype" started, when they were still relatively unknown. I would hate to never be able to see them perform live again, but deep inside I know that's a real possibility. Thanks for a passionate endorsement for SG live:) Kathie ------------------------------ From: "David M. Harrison" Subject: Re: Soundgarden Tigger1025@aol.com wrote: > > Hi all. I'm new to this. I 've been on the bush mailing list and it was > awesome... > then all of a sudden, something happened and th ewhole mailing list got > cancelled i ws so mad...well, i hope this is cool like the bush mailing list > and i hope u people are a lot nicer.. > > A little about me: > i am 15 years old, female, from a suburb in illinois near chicago. > My fav bands are bush, soundgarden, everclear, sponge, and garbage! ------------------------------ From: Alessandro Arnaldo Subject: Re: Fortissimo At 14.20 12/02/97 +0100, you wrote: > >On Tue, 11 Feb 1997, KENNY BECKWITH wrote: >> Hello everyone... >> >> Last night I went out and bought Fortissimo. Why is it called >> Fortissimo? What does that mean? > >Well, "fortissimo" simply means playing VERY loud. > >/martin. > > "Fortissimo" means also very strong, or very fast, or very cool. Is there someone who wants some Italian lessons? ,,, Hi there (o o) - --------------oo0-(_)-0oo--------------------------------------------------- - ------ | /\ /\ | | /__\ /__\ | | / \LESSANDRO / \RNALDO e-mail> alex@oasi.asti.it | | irc nickname> PUNKROKER | | | |(I say don't drink and drive you may spill your drink,before to get behind the | | wheels just stop and think) | - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ------ ------------------------------ From: AJCorsi@aol.com Subject: For anyone interested... Hello everyone! For once I have something to say other than just gibberish! If anyone of you, or anyone you know lives close enough to Syracuse, NY, listen up. There, on February 23rd, a Sunday, is the NY cd & records collector's fair. According to the woman who owns the local used cd shop, and is also one of the main distributors from the fair, I NEED TO GO, if I'm a SG fan. So, eh, I'm going. Can you blame me? But, now I'm telling you guys, in case any of you live close enough to go. It's from 10:00 am to 5:00 pm and it costs $4 to get in. It's at the Ramada Inn (7th North and Buckley Rd.). If anyone has any more questions, email me. If anyone has anything they want me to look for, email me. If anyone wants me to perform sexual acts for money, email me. If anyone wants to me to die a slow and painful death, email me. Did I mention I like mail...? Remember, if you have something you want me to look for (Lisa B, they have vid eos, too) make sure you don't wait too long to email me. Thanks a bunch! Did that count for SG content??? I hope so. They're supposed to have everything there, from bootlegs to box sets to vinyls. I'm so psyched about going. I'm gonna have to withdraw cash from my measly bank account... all two dollars. Maybe if one of you go, I'll actually be able to meet someone face to face that likes SG as much as I do!! What a change from around here. Question: do you guys that buy vinyls, buy them purely for collector's purposes or is it something I should look into? B/c I don't want them just to look at them, I just want more, more, MORE SG music!!! If there's something else there, tell me please. Much appreciated. OK, that's it for now, I know you're all terribly disappointed that I finally decided to shut up. Heh, heh, heh (copyright Shroom, and when's she coming back, dammit? I'm gonna kill IBM!), I love to TORTURE!! Muaah, ah, aaaaaaaah!!! "Hello, don't you know me, I'm the dirt beneath your feet" -C.Cornell love and collector's fairs, lissa =) ------------------------------ From: UnknownFan@aol.com Subject: washington dc gathering on friday 2/14 hey sommsters-- this is laura peeping up to say that a bunch of my friends (some of whom are *also* sg fans, many of whom are afghan whigs fans (talk about songs of angry love!) are getting together at the big hunt in dupont circle on friday (valentine's day) night. contact me directly if you are interested. it would be cool to meet more of you since we were unable to hook up at the patriot show. :-) laura ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: Re: For anyone interested... At 10:22 PM 2/12/97 -0500, AJCorsi@aol.com wrote: >Question: do you guys that buy vinyls, buy them purely for collector's >purposes or is it something I should look into? B/c I don't want them just >to look at them, I just want more, more, MORE SG music!!! If there's >something else there, tell me please. Much appreciated. well.... i am just speaking for me, though i know there are others like me: i like vinyl. i *prefer* vinyl. i still have my vinyl collection, i never traded it over into cd. i still buy vinyl, if a new release is available on vinyl i usually buy it (unless there are bonus tracks on the cd, and it's usually the other way around). i like the smell, i like the feel, i like looking at a record cover. i just think that vinyl is the coolest and I MISS IT. i guess that wasn't your question. most of the vinyl that's been spoken of recently doesn't have different music on it, it's just another color or version. but me, i was DELIGHTED to buy BMF on vinyl. ;-) never mind that i have three copies of it (bmf on cd, bmf/somms on cd, and LP). either you have an affinity/liking for vinyl or you don't... and then there are people who collect vinyl just to have One Of Everything. that's cool too. - --caryn ------------------------------ From: gene Subject: Re: show review & photos Now this is at http://starbulletin.com/97/02/10/features/story2.html Jean G. Bruns wrote: > > http://starbulletin.com/today/features/story2.html > > from the 'Honolulu Star-Bulletin' ... > not nearly as interesting as Vikki's post, but a couple of decent photos. > > jean - -- ^ ----- \___/ ----- ; > gene http://www.pe.net/~sunishun/ ------------------------------ From: Lee Christensen Subject: Live pics Hey ya, just looking around I stumbled across this site with some live shots of SG from way back in 1992!!! Not the best shots ever but oh well, the site has heaps of other bands aswell, it's a pro-photographers site, put's up her photo's for ppl to view. Anyway go to: http://www.rust.net/~jenifoto seeya Lee ***** CD of the Week: 'George' single by Headless Chickens, VOW/VOW(Torn Apart) by Garbage "Turn it UP and Play it LOUD let the blood rush to your head!!" "I'm sorry I was cruel, I forgot to kiss you..... " "You know you don't love me but you still want to touch me, Feel my body while I make you feel ugly" ------------------------------ From: Vince Varkey Subject: blood and wine Is it just me or is the traffic on the list slower than usual? Lately, I have been only getting about 10 somms messages a day when it used to be around 30. Have we actually ran out of things to say about SG? - -vince ------------------------------ From: Katherine Revel Subject: mosh's video i've been reading this list everyday for a few months and I finally decided to open my mouth. I know alot of you have already commented on Mosh's video--Hello, we are soundgarden, but I got it the other day and decided to share with the group. Let me just say that I was sick all weekend in bed and the only highpoint was watching the video four times. MOSH IS MY HERO!!! Anyway, well I'm here let me just add that on the topic of Susan and Chris, (this may be naive) I think that they are absolutely faithful to each other. Anyway, now that I've opened my mouth for the first time I might chime in more often. Kt :) -And on the plus and minus zero chance of ever turning this around ------------------------------ From: TracyN0603@aol.com Subject: Introduction and cool vinyl links Hello everyone. I'm new to the list and thought I'd post and introduce myself as well as contribute some cool links. My name is Tracy and I live and work in Washington, DC. I have been reading the digests to get a feel for the group, and I've noticed many of you are vinyl fans. There are several stores in my area that carry vinyl and they have web pages. http://members.aol.com/yatrec/private/index.htm Yesterday and Today Records They have *lots* of vinyl, promo CD singles and picture discs. Not everything is listed on the web page so e-mail them with specific requests. http://vinylink.ari.net/ Vinyl Ink Records They carry vinyl and CDs. They are constantly receiving new stuff so consider getting on their mailing list. http://www.cdjoint.com/ The Sound Garden They carry new and used CDs, books, calendars, and some vinyl. Their catalog is confusing so it's probably best to call with specific questions. There's a blurb on the welcome page about the grievance filed against them "by the popular Seattle band, Soundgarden." Tracy ------------------------------ From: Rebekah Henderson Subject: Alive In The Superunknown, Goldmine, & BHS #1 I've known about the Alive In The Superunknown CD+ for a while, but I'd seen alot of different prices for it so I decided to wait until I could find the cheapest one. I think I found it so I ordered and I got it! I love it. I had to go on a bit of a scavenger hunt to find some things that were really right in front of me the whole time. :) I've been looking through the Goldmine magazine and I haven't found anything by Soundgarden in it. Am I just not looking in the right places? I've never seen any CDs, videos, or posters. This is really bothering me so I'm asking you guys and hoping you can tell me the answer. On the BHS #1 single, right before the live version of "Kickstand" Chris is talking to the crowd. He says "Thank you" and then right after that is he saying "This is a song about the weather" or "Sorry about the weather?" Now I know that "Kickstand" probably couldn't be about the weather :), but it sure does sound like he says "song." Then again he says "Last time we were here we couldn't even play. This is some make-up show." So people, I'm asking you, what's he saying? It's driving me crazy. May Soundgarden be with you. Rebekah ------------------------------ From: Caryn Rose Subject: Re: Alive In The Superunknown, Goldmine, & BHS #1 On Thu, 13 Feb 1997, Rebekah Henderson wrote: > I've been looking through the Goldmine magazine and I haven't found anything > by Soundgarden in it. Am I just not looking in the right places? I've > never seen any CDs, videos, or posters. you need to go through the individual ads. each one. one by one. tiny print. yes, it's a bitch. ;-) - --caryn ------------------------------ Subject: SOMMSfest Chicago '96 photos From: seth For those of you wishing to take yet another trip down memory lane, I just added 12 of Bonnie's photos from the Chicago meet n greet to the SOMMSfest Web page... (go to the private mailing list part of the site, follow the SOMMSfest link at the top) seth ------------------------------ From: eliza Subject: Re: Wake Up! it might be safe to say that there are about 700 people suffering from "cancelled tour" depression...(which always leads to "will they ever tour again?" thoughts :-( 'we sit , we wait, we wonder wishfully' - --eliza On Thu, 13 Feb 1997, Natalie De Rojas wrote: > > Hello everyone,...what's goin on?...is everybody asleep?....any new > threads!..somebody, anybody? > > Natalie > ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: used my inspiration for a guillotine... during the last week I've had a little time to myself, so I spent it wisely and listened to soundgarden. ah, that's not out of the ordinary, you might be saying, but this time there was more of a purpose. during an interview with _modern drummer_, matt mentions that he missed a drum while recording the song 'flower', and which was subsequently left on the record. I've always wondered where this might be, but I haven't been able to locate it. well, after a couple of close listens and gentle nudgings from seth, I think I may have it. at 1:19, there is this weird rimshot sort of thing, where matt hits the rim rather than the drum skin. I imagine that is the one he is talking about, because up until that point all the beats had been full snare rather than something fancy-shmancy... ...but in order to nail it down, I listened to the whole song quite a few times, and there was another section which may hold the elusive mis-hit. at roughly 3:06, there is a beat which may or may not be a miss. at the start of his roll, there is an extra 'donk' which doesn't sound like it should be there. this one is fairly dodgy, however, because who am I to say that a particular hit shouldn't be there? but then again, his exact words were "totally missed a drum", so it might be impossible to ever guess where it was supposed to be. that doesn't quite rule out the first one I mentioned, but I suppose I'll never know. any other listers know more than me? lastly, just for those matt geeks who haven't been reading their _modern drummer_ magazines of late, matt is currently using dw 5000ah delta accelerator bass-drum pedals. his current drumheads are remo in this order: snare - emperor coated/ambassador snare; bass - ambassador coated powerstroke 3 ebony w/hole; and toms - emperor coated/ ambassador clear. ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide - words by kim thayil ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: eliza Subject: Re: SOMMSfest Chicago '96 photos waaaaaaahhhhhh!!!!! what timing...just when i mention being depressed about no more tour.....Bonnie- great pics...they make me wanna go back to Chicago right now and do it all again!!! Dinner at Moody's, anyone??? (and we no longer have to secretly pass our pics of our beloved list admin around - he is there for all to see ;-) eliza On Thu, 13 Feb 1997, seth wrote: > For those of you wishing to take yet another trip down memory lane, I > just added 12 of Bonnie's photos from the Chicago meet n greet to the > SOMMSfest Web page... (go to the private mailing list part of the > site, follow the SOMMSfest link at the top) > > seth > ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: it won't be lonely for long... On Wed, 12 Feb 1997 Slave4cc@aol.com wrote: > Question for the day: What does the "90" shirt mean?? I think we worked out last year sometime that the 90 shirt (worn by members of the band since their temple of the dog days, no?) was some design label linked to snowboarding or skateboarding. I could be way off though. my question for today is: what did we figure was at the end of soundgarden's cover of 'smokestack lightning'? first to answer gets acked in the faq . ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide - words by kim thayil ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Natalie De Rojas Subject: Wake Up! Hello everyone,...what's goin on?...is everybody asleep?....any new threads!..somebody, anybody? Natalie ------------------------------ From: eliza Subject: Re: SOMMSfest Chicago '96 photos sorry for posting *again* (i know, i know, shut up eliza ;-) BUTT, i was just thinking something while looking at the Chicago pics.. it is interesting, tho not surprising, that almost all of the band pics are of Chris...Yeah, our group got about 1 minute with Kim and Ben just ignored us, but the other group had more time with all of them, yet there are mostly pics of Chris...i know Toni has a great pic of Kim, but that seems about it..yeah, i know, if i had remembered my camera i would've mostly taken chris and matt too..but it's just interesting to see pics that are not from a magazine shoot still focusing mostly on CC (not that i mind in *any* way)... enjoying talking to myself.. eliza ------------------------------ From: ThNrthFace@aol.com Subject: Re: SOMMSfest Chicago '96 photos Um, I took a pic of Ben that I am quite happy with. =) Just thought I'd share. Back to the rage.... The List Thug who is gonna see the Screaming Trees 3 times next month! Aaron ------------------------------ Subject: Re: it won't be lonely for long... From: seth the dog wrote: > my question for today is: what did we figure was at the end of > soundgarden's cover of 'smokestack lightning'? first to answer gets acked > in the faq their computers>. That would be Sonic Youth's 'Death Valley 69' if I remember correctly. SY wrote the music, and Lydia Lunch and SY co-wrote the lyrics. Originally recorded in 1984 in New York and released on 7" with SY's 'Brave Men Run (In My Family)' [My So Called Records #17]. seth ------------------------------ From: Ross Filipek Subject: Re: used my inspiration for a guillotine... The "miss" is indeed the rim click at 1:19. The thing at 3:06 is just part of the fill. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Fri, 14 Feb 1997, blind dog wrote: > well, after a couple of close listens and gentle nudgings from > seth, I think I may have it. at 1:19, there is this weird rimshot sort of > thing, where matt hits the rim rather than the drum skin. I imagine that - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ And not to second guess you, Blind Dog, but I think Matt is using the Delta Turbo model as opposed to the Delta Accelerator. The Accelerator is designed in such a way that the beater actually "speeds up" towards the head when you press the pedal, while the Turbo beater moves at a constant velocity. The Turbo model is much more powerful and accurate. :) - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Fri, 14 Feb 1997, blind dog wrote: > _modern drummer_ magazines of late, matt is currently using dw 5000ah > delta accelerator bass-drum pedals. his current drumheads are remo in this - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ross ------------------------------ Subject: even MORE Chicago pics From: seth By popular request (read: Eliza's nagging [*grin*]) I've added another 5 photos from Chicago, all taken by Toni. I also split the section into 3 separate pages: one page for what was there as of yesterday, one for Bonnie's photos, and one for Toni's photos (which include the best group shot I've seen so far). seth ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: I need you building bridges in my way...(ha! get that one, perlman!) I've just finished reading the kroq radio interview with chris and a couple of interesting things came up. I thought I might post them, since eliza has now started talking to herself and everyone else has fallen asleep . the first of these was that soundgarden signed a seven record deal with a&m (I didn't know this). I count four records so far, which means they still have another three records to go on their current contract. I know that's not earth-shattering news, but it made me smile. and if the tale that soundgarden is finished touring for the year is indeed true, we could see one of those new albums on our turntables by the end of this year. the other thing was that chris spoke of a b-side compilation which could be in u.s stores some time in the near future. he said that even though they were tired of being forced to find extra tracks for european releases, they want to put all the extras together and release them domestically (because "I think our fans here deserve to hear them more"). perhaps it will be akin to the smashing pumpkins' box set. much like the next album, if they are left at home doing nothing, this could come around that much sooner. lastly (and this may have already been said before), chris mackenzie has announced that the first full-length wellwater conspiracy record will be released on march 11. I noticed that joe greenwald said it would not be released in europe. that is all well and good, but what about down here in australia? any thoughts, chris? it would be a shame if I had to import it. ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide - words by kim thayil ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 3 Issue 39] ***************************************