From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Wednesday, 12 Feb 1997 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 13:46:20 EST Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Wednesday, 12 Feb 1997 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: Chris' Tattoo Perfect 4/songs I dislike/Seth, baby Review from 'The Honolulu Advertiser' Stolen Prayers/Supermainstream "Holy Water" show review & photos Re: Monkey Circus Freak saved by sg? probably not, but... I dont hate BHS or Kickstand Soundgarden Real Video debut Singles, showers, fidelity... Re: Soundgarden Real Video debut (no subject) concerts vs new albums Faster Than A Fucking Flash OF Light.... RE: Old news i realize this night, realize what's mine.... 'Short & seeing SG live' tip aughhhhhhhhhh Breathing Life Like Fire Re: Soundgarden Real Video debut Re: I dont hate BHS or Kickstand Re: Fortissimo revolver RE: "Holy Water" RE: concerts vs new albums ------------------------------------------------------------ From: "V. Anselmo" Subject: Chris' Tattoo This is the best approximation of both the size and shape of Chris' tattoo I can make via e-mail. Hopefully I'll have a decent shot of it in all the pictures I took at the Maui show and I'll be able to scan it for the page. - -Vikki :) __________ / | | \ | || | /| || |\ / | | \ ------------------------------ From: JASNL@aol.com Subject: Perfect 4/songs I dislike/Seth, baby Hi all, Well, I just caught up (almost) on 2 months worth of unread posts. Do you remember me? It's 2:30 am here. I'm screwed as far as waking up for work tomorrow!! To Awesmeyes@aol.com...your voice class is probably over by now, but "Amazing Grace" starts with a perfect 4. I know that's not the answer you're hoping for, but it's the first thing that I thought of. Soundgarden ARE a perfect 4...(a perfect 10?) Hey, they're the only popular Seattle band who make videos AND tour (AiC's 4 dates with KISS don't count as a tour). Seth, thanks for not giving up the site. We need you, buddy. I hope this list stays, somehow. Lisa Beckwith...I saw your name and thought you were someone I knew, but then you said something about living in Florida. So, I got all worked up for nothing. Songs I dislike (hey, no band is perfect): Power Trip and I Awake. What were they thinking??? I'd like to add that this album is seriously underrated. Everyone hates it, but I like it better than Screaming Life/Fopp and Ultramega OK. (Wow, it's downright balmy in here...oh, it's just the flame war starting.) OK, I'm crawling back into my lurker position for another two months. (Newbies aren't the only ones who feel intimidated to post!) Sally ------------------------------ From: "V. Anselmo" Subject: Review from 'The Honolulu Advertiser' 'Tantrum Mars Soundgarden Show', Monday, February 10, 1997 What made the last show of Soundgarden's world tour at the Blaisdell Arena memorable was not the great-sounding music, unfortunately, but the surly behavior of Ben Shepherd. Shepherd, who plays his low-slung bass with an assertive, rumbling pulse, made his bad mood known both to his bandmates and the audience more than halfway through the concert last night. What triggered his tantrum could have been problems with his instrument, but in any event he spent the remainder of the concert kicking at a side stage light, making obscene gestures to the audience and occasionally spitting in the general direction of bandmates Matt Cameron and Kim Thayil. Lead singer and guitarist Chris Cornell had some words with Shepherd, but that apparently didn't appease him. At the end of 'Blow Up the Outside World,' he brought everything to an abrupt halt as he took off his bass, threw it up in the air, gave the audience the finger and stalked off stage. It had been a good concert before all of this came crashing down, and occasionally inspiring. The so-called Seattle 'grampas of grunge' showed they could still deliver the goods in an arena-sized venue. Two stints at Lollapaloza, in 1992 and this past summer playing alongside the likes of Metallica, make Soundgarden true survivors in the music biz. Their sound has matured from their early 'grunge' inspiration of '70s larger-than-life rock riffs with '80s hard-core punk energy, to a rolling powerhouse music with equal parts Black Sabbath, Led Zeppelin and Black Flag cut through with melodic hooks. Before Shepherd's distractions, all seemed well as the quartet started with the beckoning call of 'Spoonman.' It was a good example of the band's trademark of slipping in unusual meters that didn't detract from the band's visceral rock sound. The sparse stage setup was the perfect setting for Soundgarden's no-nonsense stage presence. The carefully synchronized lighting provided the needed dramatic punctuation. Cornell is the focus of the band, and while he is no longer the bare-chested, long-haired, sexy screamer of younger days, his self-admitted 'classic rock' vocal style is muscular, but not in a macho way. It cuts through with authority over the controlled tumult created around him by lead guitarist Thayil, Shepherd and especially drummer Cameron. The bulk of their set list came from the band's last three albums, 'Badmotorfinger,' 'Superunknown' and their latest, 'Down on the Upside.' 'Outshined' (with its memorable couplet, "I'm looking California/and feeling Minnesota") and 'Rusty Cage' (which Cornell dedicated to "the man in black," Johnny Cash, who covered the song himself on his recent album) were audience favorites. 'My Wave' got a more focused, angrier reading than the almost bright and jaunty album version. And the band's big radio crossover hit, 'Black Hole Sun,' became a solo personal number with just Cornell singing and his guitar, to red floodlights and beams illuminating the arena. The band especially clicked on the songs from 'Down on the Upside.' 'Pretty Noose,' 'Burden In My Hand' and the inspired hatred of 'Ty Cobb,' showed the band bearing down at full bore. Hopefully Shepherd's onstage behavior was the result of exhaustive touring, and not the manifestation of ill feelings that may threaten the band's existence. There's still a lot of music from this Soundgarden. - -------------------------- I had the privilege of watching the entire Honolulu show from the stage. The dialogue between Ben and Kim just before Ben ended the short set (85 minutes including an impromptu solo by Chris and 'Fell on Black Days' with only Chris and Matt) went like this: Ben: FUCK YOU!! Kim: NO, FUCK YOU!! (striding back to his guitar tech, shaking head) Ben: I'LL BREAK YOUR BIG FAT HEAD!! (stomping offstage, kicking) - -------------------------- Somebody please remind me...how old are these men? Thank the tour-gods that they'll be staying home in 1997. Sure does sound like they need a break from the road and each other. They all left in the same van...it seems they made up rather quickly. - -Vikki :( ------------------------------ From: Greg Dunbar Subject: Stolen Prayers/Supermainstream Anyone know where I can find these? If not keep an eye open to find one and we should be able to work something out. Thanks - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - "My mind is open to new ideas. The divine mind is inexhaustible. The spirit is ever active in me. There is no weary or monotonous action in spirit. It is forever new and vibrant with new ideas. I know that I am continually receiving new impressions from life. New, better and fuller ways of living. I let the newness, freshness and originality of spirit permeate my entire consciousness" - Ernest Holmes - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Visit "The Seas Of Cheezcake" http://www.cbl.com.au/~greg/index.html - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ------------------------------ From: "merlin.dwc@internetmci.com" Subject: "Holy Water" Hey... Regarding the questions about "Holy Water"... here's my thoughts. Like CC, I was raised Catholic. And at a certain point in my life I began to question Catholicism and religion in general. I guess that was the point when I was really beginning to become my own person, or "find myself" ya might say... and I found that many of the teachings of the church conflicted w/ what I truly believed in my heart and with the way that I wanted to live my life. I also began to see a lot of hypocrisies. This is what "Holy Water" means to me. I feel a real connection to the lyrics in this song because of my views on religion. I'm a heretic and a freethinker - and very proud to say so. Some of my favorite lines are "It's the big lies that are more likely to be believed" - which to me has to do w/ the fact that so many people buy into religion - and "Damn the water if it's life you want to drink" - which is basically saying forget religion if you want to live your own life and live it to the fullest and be your own person. "As I'm raped by another monkey circus freak trying to take my indignance away from me" is also one of my favorite lines. The monkey circus freaks are the proselytizers. To me, "Holy Water" isn't at all sexual. Lyrically, it's very similar to one of my other favorite songs - NIN's "Heresy" - only much more subtle and poetic. That's all for now. ;-) *Note* - this post was not meant to offend any religious folks out there. :) ~Lorraine "Nothing seems to break me no matter how far I fall nothing can break me at all..." ------------------------------ From: "Jean G. Bruns" Subject: show review & photos http://starbulletin.com/today/features/story2.html from the 'Honolulu Star-Bulletin' ... not nearly as interesting as Vikki's post, but a couple of decent photos. jean ------------------------------ From: Rita Bonofiglio Subject: Re: Monkey Circus Freak is it being suggested that chris cornell cheats on his wife......i don't think so!!!!! some of us may be very envious of susan silver, but to make that suggestion, come on! the tattoo news is enough proof that chirs loves his wife and his wife only, and why wouldn't he? from the little i know about susan silver, i think she bloody RULES...i mean you gotta love a woman who gets to tell big male rock stars what to do... especially in a dick consumed industry like the music one! - -----rita b. ------------------------------ From: Seth Subject: saved by sg? probably not, but... Hey Something really cool happened to me last weekend, and I thought I might share with the group. I was in the Cities (Minneapolis/St. Paul for those not in the Midwest U.S.) Saturday to see STOMP at the State Theater. Every time I am in Minneapolis at night, I get lost without fail. I try very hard to remember where I am supposed to go to get home but, almost ritually, I end up on my way to Iowa or Canada as opposed to Wisconsin. This particular trip I missed the one sign that indicates the on-ramp to I-94 East, and in an attemp to go back and find it again, I got all mixed up in some kind of scary neighborhoods. Now, understand that I am the kind of driver that gets irritable when things aren't going my way, and between that and the radio playing Bush and No Doubt, I had quite the case of the 'edgies.' Just when I figured we were never going to make it anywhere resembling Wisconsin before the sun came up, Outshined came on the radio. I don't think it was a sign from the rock and roll gods or anything like that, but it was something familiar and welcome and it really helped my concentration. I was on the Interstate before the second verse was over. Cool. Later A Different Seth P.S. No offense to MNDOT, but I-94 is a pretty important road, and putting a couple signs up to show us where would be a bonus. P.P.S. No offense to ME, but I-94 is a pretty important road, and paying attention to where the hell I am going might be a bonus. SW ------------------------------ From: Slave4cc@aol.com Subject: I dont hate BHS or Kickstand Hello, When I think of Black Hole Sun, I think of the wierd music, the cool way the lyrics on the chorus are, and of course, Christ standing there singing to the sky and wearing that cute skull shirt. He looks so innocent in that video. Well to me anyway. Kickstand just to me sounds alot like Aerosmith. "Oh Kickstand you got the juice to fill my cup" "My mother said that its alriiiiiiight, yea". Just kinda sounds like Aerosmith. I always thought if it as their "Aerosmith" song. I dont hate it. I just pass it up. I would have loved to have seen SG live this year, but Im glad that they're taking some time off. They deserve a rest and some relaxation time.....Chris needs to rest his voice. I wuz a little worried about them, silly me.=) YOu have a good day, good day.. Its not your fault. Carol ------------------------------ From: "Steven Russell Jr." Subject: Soundgarden Real Video debut Hey List While surfing thru Imusic's web site...I just noticed that they have debuted a new Real video technology and it contains some SG videos. I'm sure it sucks cuz I've yet to view a good streaming video. but hey...you never know :) I'm on a network puter here at school so I can't check out the 28.8k or ISDN version. BUT those of you that can download the real video player check out live clips from the bands euro tour. Included are streaming video's of BHS (CC solo), Ty Cobb (live), Butow (live) and Butow (video). http://imusic.com/soundgarden/video/ You also need ISDN or 28.8k access to see it...and remember you gots to download the plug in first. Happy Viewing, steve - - "a dream, too tired to come true..." ------------------------------ From: AJCorsi@aol.com Subject: Singles, showers, fidelity... Hey everybody. *warning un-SG content* Does anyone have the Silverchair cd, Freak Show? Do you like it? Email etc. Ok now, first of all SG and I had a date last Friday. Actually, I had to baby sit, and I finally got around to renting "Singles" so I could see our lovely and talented mighty men in action. Great, but VERY SHORT performance. Damn them! I guess Susan thought AiC needed it more than the guys. Um, what SG song do I sing in the shower? Well, considering I don't sing in the shower, I break glass... no really, I'll usually wail out "Fresh Tendrils", "Beyond the Wheel", and "BIMH". I sing others, but those are the ones that frequent my shower time. Actually, my voice isn't bad at all, I sang for chorus at a different high school, and we were so good, we were invited to sing with a large symphony orchestra, and had a performance recorded in a studio! Of course, I'm no soprano star, but I can carry a tune for the most part. Chris being unfaithful!!! Nooooooo!! Sure, some of us say we'd love to have Chris cheat on his wife, especially with us, but does any female deserve this? Any male for that matter? And if we had our little fling, would we really be satisfied with just one? I sure wouldn't. I'll just stick to dreaming about meeting them, and to my deep dark dreams of knowing Chris in all aspects, mmm...mmmm... good! I sure wouldn't want Susan to trust a man for over ten years, and find out it's all a lie. Two of my friends are a couple who have been dating since the beginning of eighth grade until now, our senior year. I was talking to the guy's mother one day, and y'know what she said to me? The reason those two are still together now, is b/c Meghan(the girl) knows when to go. If he is gonna be w/ his buddies, let him. Give him space and he'll come back to you, if he really loves you. My mom said the same thing, give your man space, and he'll appreciate it. I see a whole lot of that w/ Susan and Chris. They obviously love one another (um... Chris's tatoo as an example), but they also respect one another, which means they live together w/ out killing each other. Direct quote from Chris, "She's the best roommate I've ever had." (details, dec 96). 'Nuf said. Um, BTW, that still doesn't mean that I'm not insanely jealous of that lucky woman. Just happy for her. SG content: Can anyone tell me what singles, ep's, etc are out of date now, so I don't bother going loony searching for them? If it's on the website, I'm sorry, but my computer hasn't let me reach the web for a week and a half now. Thanks. "Won't you get the fuck out of my face? Noooooo!!" "All day I dream about sex..." J. Davis, Korn (right on Jonathan!) "Shame, shame throw yourself away..." C. Cornell (damn... come visit me soon) love and wet kisses (hey, I'm singing in the shower), lissa =) ------------------------------ From: Geoff Subject: Re: Soundgarden Real Video debut Whoa!! Cool! Thanks for the info Steve. I just dowloaded the RealVideo player last night, and checked out one of the sample clips on the REalVideo page and worked ok. The sound was decent, though the video was only .25 fps. I also got the encoder. The files are tiny. I even converted a clip of the Toronto show and posted it on my SG page and tried it out. This is the probably the best streaming technology I've seen, though the frame rate is extremely low. You don't need a high frame rate for, say, interviews. /me grins towards a hard drive in Boston. I can't wait to get home to check these clips out on the Official Page. Later, Geoff On Tue, 11 Feb 1997, Steven Russell Jr. wrote: > Hey List > > While surfing thru Imusic's web site...I just noticed that they have > debuted a new Real video technology and it contains some SG videos. I'm > sure it sucks cuz I've yet to view a good streaming video. but hey...you > never know :) > > I'm on a network puter here at school so I can't check out the 28.8k or > ISDN version. BUT those of you that can download the real video player > check out live clips from the bands euro tour. Included are streaming > video's of BHS (CC solo), Ty Cobb (live), Butow (live) and Butow (video). > > http://imusic.com/soundgarden/video/ > > You also need ISDN or 28.8k access to see it...and remember you gots to > download the plug in first. > > > > Happy Viewing, > > > steve > - "a dream, too tired to come true..." > > ------------------------------ From: KENNY BECKWITH <"beckwith@gte.net"@gte.net> Subject: (no subject) Hello everyone... Last night I went out and bought Fortissimo. Why is it called Fortissimo? What does that mean? Why didn't they call it Louder Than Live - The CD? Even though I don't understand the title the CD kicks ass. Earach My Eye and Big Bottom were pretty funny and if cover songs count they get my new vote for funniest SG song. I also just got from the mail the Spoonman single w/ Cold Bitch and Exit Stonehenge. They are all right. Maybe it will take some time for them to grow on me. What song I sing in the shower? Usually what ever SG song I just finished listening too or which ever I had stuck in my head at the time. Chris having a tattoo really suprised me because he said he hates pain. Thats why he doesn't have nipple rings. (Was he joking about the nipple rings?) I think that is so sweet. But anyways... Who really knows what Chris and Susans relationship is like except for Chris and Susan. Most of us female SG fans joke about Chris, but I would rather talk to him then have meaningless sex with a man(even though that man happens to be the sexiest man in the world) that wouldn't give you a second thought once the deed was done. Even though me having a conversation with CC would consist of me babbling on like a total idiot about nothing at all. Pretty much like I am right now. I wish all the happiness to Susan and Chris. And to the other 3 guys and their gals. God today has been really crappy. As soon as I get off this computer I am going to go drown my sorrows in Soundgarden. Lisa B ------------------------------ From: Deborah Baker Subject: concerts vs new albums Ten brilliant albums but no more touring or vice versa? I know this thread has been around a week or so, but I've been pondering on it a lot...this post promises to be long and rambling but I wondered if anyone else feels the same as me... I've seen Soundgarden twice - first time at the Reading Festival in 94 and last year at Brixton Acadamy and neither time did I feel that euphoric rush/orgasmic experience that other sommsters have posted about. At Reading I got the feeling they'd rather be anywhere but there; at Brixton it was a pretty exciting concert for me - the sound was great and Chris was bouncing around and telling awful jokes. But still, for me there was something missing. How I felt seeing them there and hearing them live just didn't match the heady heights I can reach listening to their records, or seeing them doing Searching With My Good Eye Closed on the Motorvision video. I feel like one of those women who write in to problem pages saying they've never had an orgasm!!!!:-))) I was hoping to see Soundgarden on their home turf this year (looks like it won't happen though) to see if it made any difference. I know they don't like Europe much (our beer is warm, our food is funny, everyone uses different money etc etc) so maybe how they feel about playing here affects me in some weird way. Has anyone else who's seen them outside America had the same sense of missing out somehow on the live Soundgarden experience? So in answer to the original question...I'd rather have five amazing albums and at least one orgasmic concert experience before they sell off their tour bus! UKDeb ------------------------------ From: Aferdity@aol.com Subject: Faster Than A Fucking Flash OF Light.... Well, the subject has nothing to do with the post, sorry, but I couldn't think of anything else and I like that line. On to buisiness....I ordered Real Wild Children and I have to say that I like it, (I liked the way Chris sings Big Dumb Sex...sounded like sort of a nice version, "I'm gonna do that dirty little thing to you...") but one thing that bothered me was the way Soundgarden really didn't talk to the crowd the way they do in the more recent bootlegs. Do you think they were nervous or just didn't want to? Well, I also have The Garden Grows and through out the entire thing Chris will joke and kid around with the crowd between songs. I think it gives it a more personal tone. Oh well!! Also, on Real Wild Children you can hear this girl between EVERY FUCKING song yelling, "TAKE YOUR SHIRT OFF!!!!!" Well, I have to admit that I am 100% hootchie and I do drool over Chris but I would never be so stupid and disrespectful to yell this the whole time they played. It REALLY got on my last nerve. Hell, maybe she wasn't even talking to Chris, I have no idea, but the point I'm trying to make is that it's rude. I mean, yes Chris is to die for, but to me the music is the heart of the matter. If it wasn't for the music Kim would probably be a philosophy teacher, Ben would probably be a...well, I'm not sure what kind of job Ben could get, Matt would probably be posing for CK, and Chris would probably be a cook(okay for Shroomy, he would have to work in a naked Red Lobster!!) Just kidding, I really don't have a clue as to what they would be doing if they weren't in a band, but you get my point, huh?!?!?!? I just feel that if you like them for their looks then you don't get the whole package!!! Well, I'll shut up for now so please, don't mind me!!! Take care and be sweet!! Stay Cool, Kelly :) P.S. The SG songs I sing in the shower: really sick sounding versions of Ty Cobb, Face Pollution, Kickstand, or Drawing Flies....(if I'm in a hurry); and Beyond the Wheel, Outshined....(if I have some extra time). Just to add...I passed by the bathroom the other day and caught my brother singing Little Joe in the shower except instead of the lyrics "Little Joe run for the border..." he was singing "Little Joe can I take your order."HAHAHAHAHAHA "Welcome to Taco Bell, can I help you?" I thought he knew the words!!!! Oh well!! ------------------------------ From: Carolyn Hanel Subject: RE: Old news Mandy wrote: >>I meant to write this in last week but work is pretty hectic. Anyway = a=20 friend of a friend was at KISS in Sydney last Wednesday and saw SG = enjoying=20 the show from the mixing desk. What, even Ben? He HATES KISS, doesn't he??? I know Kim loves 'em - he = mentioned them in an interview on Triple J's 'J Files' recently. Speaking of which, to Aussie KISS fans - the J Files this Thursday will = be on KISS - 10pm to 1am, on JJJ. >>PS Carolyn...... The Hanging Tree? yay! possibly my favourite Sydney = band.=20 Have you seen them live? they go right off. Haven't seen them live. It's all thanks to Aleko that I have any of = their music. {thanks, Alex!} I am totally blown away by their song = called "Bus Trip". It's just as good, if not better, than any Tool song = I've ever heard! The Hanging Tree reminds me a lot of Tool - I = recommend any non-Aussies to check them out if you ever get the chance! Bye, Carolyn the Multitudinal Fin Followed by millions of dumbfounded dipshits......some say the end is = near - Tool ------------------------------ From: eliza Subject: i realize this night, realize what's mine.... the winner of the Truly 10" is Al (FrkShow911)...congrats Al and email me... (and that is all the stuff i have for awhile...) i am outta the shipping biz for now ;-) - -eliza "we are built upon false foundations we are built upon misplaced expectations" --HANDSOME (folks, *go* buy this CD, it is pretty hard, but man, Terry Date strikes again...) ------------------------------ From: Emily Subject: 'Short & seeing SG live' tip On the 27th January I and many others saw a phenomanal show at the Sydney Showground. It was also the first I'd seen SG live, and I was blown away. But because i'm only 5"2, I had a few problems getting to the front and staying there, so after a few attempts (and fended off gropes) I came up with a scheme to be able to get a good view of the Chris and the band. While security wasn't watching i managed to get up on the barrier towards the side of the stage and stay there for about five songs! Only problem was that whenever a security guard came close, i'd hop down and get my leg caught in air. I didn't realise it at the time, but i guess that explains the bruise that goes all the way down the back of my thigh, which still hasn't gone after 2 weeks! It's quite a good trick because i saw the whole stage AND the entire crowd. (On average there were about 30 people crowd- surfing at any given time - even for BHS!) Anyone else got some 'short & seeing SG live' tips? ( Apart from sitting on your boyfriend's shoulders.) ~~~emily~~~ ------------------------------ From: CL Miller Subject: aughhhhhhhhhh aaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh what's wrong with the unofficial site? why are you doing this to me? please fix it soon before i give my 57 magnum a blowjob hurry please i beg of you. . . . . . . . ------------------------------ From: Redodin@aol.com Subject: Breathing Life Like Fire It has occured to me (if you will) just how much the cover of Superunknown fits the album. I mean CC in a mystical ,(screaming) distorted form, and black days below.It hit me like a phillips head while listening to 4th of July. This song is forever Independent. When the doubled vocals come in is when the cover image comes to life. The higher part of the two is so slightly slow in the beginning, but stays home. It still amazes me how unique this band is.With seemingly everything been done before and many, many vocalists peeking at us as great, CC is without a doubt the absolute best. The way one can hear him breathe and slur (especially on this album) is refreshing. Not to mention the individuality of each member. True arTists. I guess the fact that grabs me tighter is that listening to this album makes me think: This IS the best SG album there is. Yet I will think the same thing after listening to another one. When the whole thing blows away I won't pretend I'll be going down For the rest of the ride While the rest of you harvest the gold - -Cody ------------------------------ From: psyche Subject: Re: Soundgarden Real Video debut At 12:39 PM 2/11/97 -0600, Geoff wrote: >Whoa!! Cool! Thanks for the info Steve. I just dowloaded the RealVideo >player last night, and checked out one of the sample clips on the >REalVideo page and worked ok. The sound was decent, though the video was >only .25 fps. I also got the encoder. The files are tiny. I even >converted a clip of the Toronto show and posted it on my SG page and tried >it out. This is the probably the best streaming technology I've seen, >though the frame rate is extremely low. I must say I was pretty impressed with the video clips..... on the RealVideo page that is. You can forget about the SG live clips though. Not that I was expecting to see CD-Rom quality stuff, especially not for live stuff, but the sound wasn't too great, and the images are *very* blurry.... even if you pick the slides. I think if I just looked at the video without sound, I wouldn't even know that SG's playing in it. Ben and Matt fans will be very disappointed as well, 'cos they're not even in it (or if they are, they're not visible) The quality for the BUTOW video is, of course, much better, but you have to have ISDN to see that one, and it takes pretty long to download first (buffering), since they're showing the entire video. I've tried Real Video with other music videos and movie clips, mostly from record label sites, and they're pretty good.... sabrina ------------------------------ From: Taylor Holmes Subject: Re: I dont hate BHS or Kickstand Slave4cc@aol.com wrote: > and of course, Christ standing there singing to the sky and > wearing that cute skull shirt. Heh, heh... Freudian Slip? ;-)~ (SG Content at very bottom) BHS is cool... Who's Hiro? ------------------------------ From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_And=E9r?= Subject: Re: Fortissimo On Tue, 11 Feb 1997, KENNY BECKWITH wrote: > Hello everyone... > > Last night I went out and bought Fortissimo. Why is it called > Fortissimo? What does that mean? Well, "fortissimo" simply means playing VERY loud. /martin. ------------------------------ From: Vince Varkey Subject: revolver from the liner notes of moby's latest cd "animal rights" "thanks to scott litt, alan moulder...soundgarden, filter, and jesus christ" cool. - -vince - -does anyone have the moby mix of "until it sleeps" by metallica? if so, contact me.. ------------------------------ From: "Lane, Karen" Subject: RE: "Holy Water" Have to agree 100%. Total rage against the stupidity of organized religion which I think is often the result of being raised Catholic (as I was also). I see nothing sexual in this song. I think you find the same sentiment in Wooden Jesus on the Temple CD. Merlin.dwc wrote: - ---------- Hey... Regarding the questions about "Holy Water"... here's my thoughts. Like CC, I was raised Catholic. And at a certain point in my life I began to question Catholicism and religion in general. I guess that was the point when I was really beginning to become my own person, or "find myself" ya might say... and I found that many of the teachings of the church conflicted w/ what I truly believed in my heart and with the way that I wanted to live my life. I also began to see a lot of hypocrisies. This is what "Holy Water" means to me. I feel a real connection to the lyrics in this song because of my views on religion. I'm a heretic and a freethinker - and very proud to say so.... ------------------------------ From: Carolyn Hanel Subject: RE: concerts vs new albums Deb Baker wrote: >>..... But still, for me there was something missing. How I felt seeing them there and hearing them live = just didn't match the heady heights I can reach listening to their records, = or seeing them doing Searching With My Good Eye Closed on the Motorvision video. I feel like one of those women who write in to problem pages = saying they've never had an orgasm!!!!:-))) >>I was hoping to see Soundgarden on their home turf this year (looks = like it won't happen though) to see if it made any difference. I know they don't like Europe much (our beer is warm, our food is funny, everyone uses different money etc etc) so maybe how they feel about playing here = affects me in some weird way. Deb, I'm really sorry that you haven't had the same euphoric feeling I = did when seeing Soundgarden live recently here in Australia. :-( That = is a bummer. (but I tell you, warm beer would be enough to make me play = with less pizzazz!!) You might have a point about if SG like being in the country they're in, = they'll enjoy themselves in concert. You see, I think maybe SG like = being in Australia. The beer is the best in the world, for one :-P - = Kim's bound to like that!! :-) >>Has anyone else who's seen them outside America had the same sense of missing out somehow on the live Soundgarden experience? =20 I'll be interested to read any responses to this question. *I* have = seen them outside America - about as far from America as you could go - = and there was no sense of missing out with me!! [Brian - I got your email and I'll get back to you when I can!] [Lynne - can you please email me ASAP regarding the DUOTU CD?? I need = to know SOON!] Carolyn the Munching Fatso I'm sitting in a chair, wearing a smile.....Violent Femmes ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 3 Issue 38] ***************************************