From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Thursday, 6 Feb 1997 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Thu, 06 Feb 1997 02:58:45 EST Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Thursday, 6 Feb 1997 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: RE: 665/667 forward/reverse unfURLed Down Under On the Upside. "annoyingist" (it's a word now!)/funniest songs... Re: unfURLed hate Skip this post That band-link thing from hype! last aust date revisited.. Re: unfURLed Re: Pigeonhed (*long* -ish Kerrang review) new swedish anagram quicky.. Re: Cut the thread!!! Re: Songs We Hate Re: who do I kill? Where is the Hype? Be Nice To Kickstand! SG B-Sides SU Coloured Vinyl?? supermainwinner RE: quicky..Ferrivorus ..I may lay my crowded head... Re: SU Coloured Vinyl?? SG songs I can live without/ T.S creation/ SOMMS test/SG fan club Everybody join in!! A brief but fierce tongue lashing Re: I want out! And you can thank Caryn. Re: Be Nice To Kickstand! Re: Hi Everyone...go out and buy DOTU! jugding newbies grammy show Technically able.... Stupid question something Tone Deaf (#22) Shroomy sg collectibles & goldmine magazine Re: www.unfURLed.com Re: I want out, Hi Everyone, Judging Newbies shroom reruns more shroom reruns Proof that there is a God. Re: sg collectibles & goldmine magazine Re: something "Jamie C." : Technically able.... Black hole sun won't you come. . . I'm going to Hawaii... A Flower in the Desert Re: something Re: BUTOW single I don't like this song!! come stand me up... sure don't mind a change... threads.........sewing, anyone? Kurt Cobain murder investigation Various threads ------------------------------------------------------------ From: "Christopher Farley" Subject: RE: 665/667 forward/reverse For WIN95 users. Use sound recorder to record audio cd from CD-ROM or put a line into your sound card( thats how I do it, more convenient for me) Record the track you want. go into options(?) a select reverse. Then you too can hear the "Santanic Messages" Later Chris - ---------- From: setward2@uwc.edu Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 1997 11:06 AM To: somms@MIT.EDU Subject: 665/667 forward/reverse Good Morning Somms! After a night of battling insomnia by reading back issues of computer mags (if that won't help you sleep, what will?), I fell upon a wonderfully easy way to listen to music backwards using your very own home computer. I tried it with (of course) 665 and 667 and IT RULES!! If you have a CD-ROM drive, QT MoviePlayer 2.5, and some extra drive space, then you too can have the pleasure of interpreting your favorite "satanic messages" right in the comfort of your own home. (WARNING: The way I am describing this is the method I used for Macintosh, and I honestly don't know if it will be different for Windows or any other OS, although I believe all QT stuff originates from Apple in the 1st place, so good luck!) 1) First start MoviePlayer with Ultramega OK in your CD drive. Choose Open or do a Cmnd-O, whichever is your preference. When the window opens asking you to choose what you want open, double-click on Audio CD 1. 2) Select Track 4 by clicking once. Name your song in the appropriate box. There is an options button bar that lets you decide things like 8 or 16 bit recording, and mono or stereo, etc. I recommend beefing everything up as good as you can, but all of this takes up more and more space. (Both tracks, recorded in the highest possible quality used approx. 27.1 MB of space, totally.) 3) Once you have decided all this and have clicked OK in the Options window, click the button bar that says Convert, and the song is on its merry way to becoming a Quick Time Movie. It takes a minute or two, so just hang on. 4) When the computer is done converting the format, open up the song/movie track/whatever and give it a test run to make sure everything came out cool. Then, using the mouse, drag the counter bar thingy (not the tech. term, but you know...) to the very end of the song. 5) HERE IS THE TRICK If you hold down the CONTROL button and click and hold on the REW/FF buttons, they become a slider knob with which you can play the song (or any QT Movie, I guess) at variable speeds Forward AND Backward!!! 6) It will take 2 or 3 tries to get the speed right, but once you do, you can hear Chris's *secret messages* as clear as if he were right there with you. Well not that good, but it works. Try it on SG or the Beatles or Hotel California, or any Death Metal you might have about that is rumored to have special hidden or reverse lyrics. I hope this works for everybody. I'm sure there are better ways to do this, but I was pretty proud of myself for my deductive reasoning, and it is something accesible to most of us for free, so I thought I would share with the group like a good kiddie. Don't say I never did anything for you! :) Have fun, and don't be corrupted by the messages A Different Seth BTW: If anyone caught Loveline on Friday (the inferior TV version) you may have noticed once when they cut to a commercial, the background tune was Hands All Over. Cool Shit, now if they would just play the old videos! ------------------------------ From: "Stella Rogers" Subject: unfURLed Seth how did you find out the site won? Did they email you? Everytime i try to go to unfurled it never goes through. Has anyone else tried to go? This is the right URL right? http://www.unfurled.com? stella ------------------------------ From: Dan Murphy Subject: Down Under On the Upside. Straight from SGFC: > There is talk of a possible US spring tour in 1997. However, there are no > dates set as of now. > > The Australian / New Zealand tour edition bonus disc includes 6 Soundgarden > B sides and is packaged with the full length DOTU cd. > The six bonus tracks are: > Jerry Garcia's finger > Karaoke > Bleed Together > Birth Ritual (original demo) > Fell On Black Days (video version) > Dusty (moby remix) - -dan, who did NOT search the archive to see if this had come up before... back to lurker mode... :) ------------------------------ From: The Guitarist-2001 Subject: "annoyingist" (it's a word now!)/funniest songs... songs that I tend to skip on albums: half, never named B-sides and others that I tend to skip: MOTORCYCLE LOOP, Big Dumb Sex (remix), Exit Stonehenge... comical songs: one minute of silence (even if it is a cover of nothing, it's the THOUGHT of it that makes it funny), 665>667, Big Dumb Sex, Kickstand, Rhinosaur (the title, remember Matt's explanation? "It's a nose sore, get it? Rhino means nose and saur, well we just changed the spelling (laughing)"-not exact quote, but pretty darn close I believe...), Sub Pop Rock City, She's a Politician I also think that the Johnny Cash version of Rusty Cage is amusing, when you compare it to the original version... I have yet to get sick of BHS (probably because I really became an SG fan after it had already hit its heaviest rotation...), and I probably would be sick of BUTOW if it wasn't my favorite song of DOTU... The Guitarist-2001 "Dying words I bury everyday" - Nothing To Say, Soundgarden, Screaming Life/FOPP ------------------------------ From: psyche Subject: Re: unfURLed At 12:58 AM 2/5/97 +0000, Stella wrote: >Seth how did you find out the site won? Did they email you? Everytime >i try to go to unfurled it never goes through. Has anyone else tried >to go? This is the right URL right? http://www.unfurled.com? yeah, that's the correct URL. I just tried it, and it worked. For those who don't have web access or don't have time to browse, here's what is says about the winner: (best fan-produced site) "It's disturbing how comprehensive this site is--is Chris Cornell bankrolling this guy, or what? How else would Mr. Seth Perlman have the time and energy to put together news blurbs culled from every music rag on earth, censored clips from the "Pretty Noose" video, guitar and bass tablatures, comprehensive discography/videography, band history, and transcripts of on-line chats? And this just skims the surface. If you worship Soundgarden, here's your Mecca, kids. " Can't argue with that :) Congrats Seth; your site now joins the ranks of MTV and Sony as one of the best sites around ;-) And if you want to hear our very own listadm thank everyone, there's a wav. clip of that available as well... sabrina ------------------------------ From: kjm@mtool.com (Karen Monoker) Subject: hate I just wanted to clarify that I do not "hate" the songs, spoonman or black hole sun. But I am extremely sick of hearing them. And the more I think about it as I read your comments on this list, I don't think it is because of the overplay by radio and mtv. I mean I could listen to mind riot and drawing flies, or loud love and hands all over , or whatever, over and over and over and over. Sometimes I play RTYW and Somewhere over and over and I never get sick of these songs. Hmmmmmmm I never thought about why but these songs are different than Spoonman and BHS, anyone know what I mean? Also I am really surprised how many people don't like Kickstand.... it's almost like a great intermission during this superb concert/album. Karen ------------------------------ Subject: Skip this post From: Ben Timberlake because it's kind of dumb. I rounded out my SG CD collection over christmas acquiring UMOK, LTL, and SL/FOPP. Fascinating, huh? Saw Hype! the other day. If you haven't seen this, please try to, even on video. It really paints a different (and I've been told, more truthful) picture of the Seattle scene. And it will make you want to go to a live show right away. I was very excited to read seth will keep the page after graduation. Made me hold my arms in a V for a good 20 seconds. Not that someone else couldn't have done a fine job with the page, but it just seems _right_ to have seth at the helm. Caryn mentioned the similarities between "Karaoke" and PJ's "Mankind." I agree that "Mankind" works out better because Eddie and the boys fully embrace the cheese. It's such a catchy tune, but I laugh every time I listen to that song. Karaoke, to its credit is more of an angry reaction to that trend. I bet every time Gavin Rossdale or Scott Weiland here those songs, they just tap their feet and think "hey I should knock this tune off on the next album." Oh yeah, someone implied a difference in crowd content at the Chicago shows depending on the radio station that "sponsored" each show. Is this a widely recognized phenomenon? Are shows sponsored by the more "popular" radio station usually frequented by more of those alterna-teen types? OAO -- Ben "The music wasn't stupid, but it was dumb" -- Charles Peterson "My biscuits and gravy suck but I make a hell of a trip to the donut shop!!" -- Toni Roark, 8.4.96 Ben Timberlake The watch was a gift Northwestern University from his father. Medill School of Journalism pubweb.acns.nwu.edu/~bft718 btimlake@nwu.edu -30- "Do one thing for me, Sredni Vashtar." -- Saki ------------------------------ Subject: That band-link thing from hype! From: Ben Timberlake Does anyone know where one could acquire that computer program, featured in Hype!, that allows the user to link Seattle bands by member? It looked like an interesting little piece of reference software. Even though they misspell Malfunkshun. -- Ben Ben Timberlake The watch was a gift Northwestern University from his father. Medill School of Journalism pubweb.acns.nwu.edu/~bft718 btimlake@nwu.edu -30- "Do one thing for me, Sredni Vashtar." -- Saki ------------------------------ From: Georgia Kennedy Subject: last aust date revisited.. As is usually the case, during the course of my long day at work, I thought back on the night that was ultima, and remembered a couple of other things. One song they did that I forgot til now was An Unkind, which was really fantastic live. And when they came out to do their encore, they thanked their "Aussie mates" for joining them on the tour, and Tim Rogers came out, and him & Chris hugged and kissed eachother. It was a beautiful moment.. When I got home today, I had a message on my answering machine from my friend who works for Polygram records, who I tried many times to get in touch with prior to these two Perth shows. She said she had some news for me. I almost started shaking... I saw her in the pit area last night, and I was willing her to turn around and look my way. She seemed to be looking at the crowd in the seats, but not quite where I was. Anyway, she had managed to get a backstage pass for me!! She was looking for me in the crowd, but couldn't see me, so when she went backstage for the meet & greet, she made some jokes to try & lighten things up (she said the band looked pretty uncomfortable - they had to meet some radio contest winners), then she thrust some photos at them, and she had them all signed "To Georgia". What a woman. So, even thought I missed out on meeting them (for now), I have a small memoir of something that could have been, but never was. And as a side note that may be of some minor interest to someone out there, at the BDO, over 40 people were taken to hospital with injuries, one with serious neck injuries from being crushed at the front of the stage, there were three heroin overdoses, with one ending in death. georgia ------------------------------ From: tonerkin Subject: Re: unfURLed > >"It's disturbing how comprehensive this site is--is Chris Cornell > bankrolling this guy, or what? How else would Mr. Seth Perlman have > the time and energy to put together news blurbs culled from every > music rag on earth, censored clips from the "Pretty Noose" video, > guitar and bass tablatures, comprehensive discography/videography, > band history, and transcripts of on-line chats? And this just skims the > surface. If you worship Soundgarden, here's your Mecca, kids. " > >Can't argue with that :) You da man....Seth! Congrats on a job well done to Seth and everyone who has contributed to the page in the variety of ways we all have. Now if you could just win the prize for listaman with the most hair pulled out!!!! Maybe you could pick up one of those SG black knit caps to keep your head warm??? Glad to hear you are going to keep the page, Seth! We'd be lost without you! toni ------------------------------ From: Deborah Baker Subject: Re: Pigeonhed (*long* -ish Kerrang review) Futher to Greg and Caryn's posts on the new Pigeonhed album, the following review was in today's Kerrang mag. There's only a brief mention of Mr Thayil, so anyone not interested can skip this post if they wish. But Steve Fisk and Soundgarden do go back a long way (remixing quite a few of their songs, for anyone who doesn't know) so I thought I'd post it anyway.... Seth, feel free to add it to your award-winning website! Pigeonhed The Full Sentence (Sub Pop SP373) "We've been prattling on about how much of a genius Shawn Smith is now for a good few years. Firstly on Brad's Shame album, when he was chiefly responsibleb for the not inconsiderable achievement of making a member of Pearl Jam - guitarist Stone Gossard, in this case - sound funky. Secondly, on Satchel's two exquisite albums. Aand thirdly, via his most esoteric project, Pigeonhed. "Together with producer Steve Fisk, Smith made the trippy, left-field Pigeonhed album in '93. Four years later, they've once again retired to a Seattle studio to concoct a a follow-up. This time though, they've had the likes of Alice In Chains' Jerry Cantrell and Soundgarden's Kim Thayil popping in with their guitars - which might suggest that The Full Sentence is some sort of all-star grunge hoe-down, but inevitably means nothing of the kind. "Instead, it's moulded by a combination of fat funk grooves, alternately orchestral and ambient electrobeats, rich guitar work and Smith's fantastic voice, which is deep, dark and soulful when he's singing something spiritual, and assumes a rich falsetto when he's singing about shagging. "Imagine if The Artist Formerly Known As Prince were to have been born white and decided to remake Purple Rain as the soundtrack to a David Lynch movie, and you're halfway to understanding the scope, and the inherent power, of The Full Sentence. "The opening It's Like The Man Said and Fire's Coming Down are blissed out and brooding. Marry Me and Glory Bound are gospel-fired and soul stacked; while 31st July is so insidiously groovy, it surely had even Smith's well-proportioned booty shaking magnificently. "Of course, if you absolutely have to be assaulted by huge riffs and todger-shrivelling vocal, you will despise The Full Sentence. But for those who dug Shame and The Family, this'll do nicely, thank you very much." Also included was this fact file..... Formed: 1993 in Seattle Previous LPs: Pigeonhed (1993) Biggest hit: Oooh no Current line-up: Shawn Smith (vocals, guitars, keyboards, drums)/ Steve Fisk (keyboards, loops, 'noise' etc) Studio Vibe: Good-natured boffinery interruped by star mates turning up for a jam Cover Artwork: An angel and a devil balancing on a set of scales Subject matter: Love and sex and 'get your asses on down, motherf**kers' Next move: Smith is working with Stone Gossard on the second Brad album, while Fisk is producing LA band Geraldine Fibbers' second album Sounds pretty good to me. Whoever it was (sorry) who said they were looking for new music to get into, Pigeonhed might be worth checking out. UKDeb ------------------------------ From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_And=E9r?= Subject: new swedish anagram I've found another nice anagram on soundgarden in swedish: "En snodd ragu" which means "A stolen ragout" Isn't that nice :) /martin. (And NO, I don't have a life...) ------------------------------ From: Bluem81014@aol.com Subject: quicky.. i know that you guys look out for fellow sommsters so i need you to help me out. i listen to ntmf everyday and my problem is... WHAT IN THE WORLD DOES FERRIVORUS MEAN? i looked in every dictoinary i could find and im clueless.so please help me!! and will someone email me a sg image so i can use it as a background for my windows... i fashion will and desire always i and i survive mercurial mind the fire ferrivorous?direction and drive... OH! AND A HAP HAP HAPPY BDAY TO WHOEVER THAT DUDE WAS!! I HAVE A BAD MEMORY,SORRY GUYS thanks a bunch bluem81014-bluemoon :-)~ p.s. shhh...dont tell anybody but..my birthday is friday...ill be a devilish 16 yr old on the prowl...this is hush hush ok. hehehe;-) ------------------------------ From: Mercyhurst Prep Library Subject: Re: Cut the thread!!! At 10:05 PM 2/4/97 -0500, you wrote: >Refering to all the hype on "Newbies". I personally am into this list,but I >do not >enjoy or appreciate reading mail with people blowing smoke and talking wind. >"Damn the water if it's life!" > Thank you, I agree! Anyone else??? > In all, the band should be the topic not seniority. Nor should it be about superiority, real or imagined. We're all fans of a band, and that is what's important, yes??????? Not ,the I did this so I'm greater than anyone else lines. I am one who learns from >questions >and answers,but finds it hard to pay attention to teachers that won't teach. >Therefore let us all find find common ground and learn from everything. We can actually learn from each other--what a concept, can you tell I'm an educator? I'ver said it sdo often people are probably tired of hearing it, but this is a Sg list, and Sg is why we're all here. Can't we just welcome new people and share the knowledge? I have a hunch that's why they sub in the first place! > >Best song: Though I will change my mind at every new listening,I find,(again) >Drawing Flies to be one of their most creative > Hmmm, could be...tho it's also one of their oddest, imho. >Funniest? I go w/ Big Dumb Sex for funniest. >Worst: In my opinion is Blow up the outside world. Gotta go w/ Flower here. That's also got my vote for one I skip--cannot stand it and the video drives me crazy. > Best album? Oh no, not again! I have to go for Superunknown, and a close second for me is bmf. ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Songs We Hate From: Brydon Cheyney CS95 >i cannot listen to 'superunknown' because of BHS. I can't stand it, i >will change the radio to listen to ANYBODY instead of hearing that song, >i can't stomach it. I have to say that Superunknown is pretty much the only album that has a real 'skip factor' for me... I have to agree with Caryn, BHS grates on my nerves nowadays, the constant overplay has forced me to skip this track forward almost everytime I hear it... 'Superunknown' just does nothing for me, 'Kickstand' is a short blast of noise, but at least it's better than 'No Attention'... 'Fresh Tendrils' just doesn't grab me in any way... 'Fell On Black Days', after hearing the original paled in comparison... But I still play the album for the immense 'Mailman', 'Fourth Of July', 'TDITTL', 'Like Suicide' and 'She Likes Surprises'... I've always thought this album was too long, too polished... I dunno, for some reason this album doesn't do much for me... DOTU rectified this slightly but I still find myself skipping plenty of the album, something I just don't do on the rest of their albums... Later, Brydon ------------------------------ From: Vince Varkey Subject: Re: who do I kill? On Tue, 4 Feb 1997, Caryn Rose wrote: > > Also, they were talking about how A&M has apparently given > > up on DOTU. Did any of you get this feeling? I never did. > > absolutely. i even talked about this about a week ago. I think they gave > up after "Pretty Noose", even though BiMH was way successful -- they might > have stopped snoozing for a bit when they gained some momentum, but it was > really clear to me that they had given up. Could you delve deeper into this please? Can you tell me why you feel A&M gave up on them after Pretty Noose? > i thought it was one of the best articles/interviews i have read this > year. the questions were thought-provoking, the answers were also > thoughtful, and to hear some of kim's improvs was just dynamite to me! I totally agree with you here. It was a great article and the great part was that they asked the band some pretty frank questions and they responded as honestly as they could. But I still left the article puzzled by the facts presented in it. Like I was saying, for the longest time I was under the impression that DOTU was one of the most successful albums of last year. Then all of the sudden, by way of the MSN article, I find out that DOTU has only sold barely over a million? This came as a shock to me. I mean, for the last few months we have been bombarded by articles citing the low album sales of such mainstays like R.E.M. and Pearl Jam for example, but SG was never mentioned along those lines. In fact, in a recent Rolling Stone, they were talking about this slump in album sales, but they specifically mentioned Soundgarden as being the exception, stating that the album was highly successful. But in the end, it really doesn't matter. I love the band no matter what. But unlike some people, who would like SG to be all theirs, I am the opposite. I want *everyone* to hear them. To be really honest, I secretly would like to go to all the mainstream following-the-trend music fans, tap them on the shoulder and say "Hey listen to *this* . Ok I'm done. - -vince ------------------------------ From: Redodin@aol.com Subject: Where is the Hype? Hello fellow Sommsters! I have a question on Hype. I am from Ohio and have heard nothing about it coming to our theatres or stores.Though I have not looked hard at all (yet) because I counted on at least one preview announncing it's arrival. Anyhow, Has the movie passed me up , or will it come at all(In theaters)? And if it will,When? I hope someone can answer this. - --And it's raining icepicks on your steel shore! ------------------------------ From: Seth Subject: Be Nice To Kickstand! Whoa I am really surprised at how many people disliked Kickstand so much. I always thought it was a highlight on SU. I know we all get our opinions, so I am just posting on behalf of this quick little gem. For me, Kickstand is a break from needing to ponder the inner meaning of SG lyrics and music. Don't get me wrong, this deepness is half the reason I like SG, but sometimes you just need to rock, you know? Besides, on all the boots and SU B-Sides it comes off as a great warmer-upper for concerts. Just my .02 to boost the self-esteem of one of my faves. Bye A Different Seth Do songs have self-esteem? ------------------------------ Subject: SG B-Sides From: Brydon Cheyney CS95 I was just thinking when I was considering the 'Songs We Hate' thing that Sg don't seem to be able to do a poor cover... I mean, what's wrong with them? They should have butchered one cover at least by now... 'Into The Void' is stunning, perfectly SG, bettered only by the recent Kyuss version... ;) 'Come Together', 'Girl U Want', even the straight faced run through of 'Big Bottom'... All unexpected, all perfect for the band... Even the Goddamn B-sides are amazing! 'Heretic', 'Fresh Deadly Roses', 'HIV Baby', 'Kyle Petty', 'SubPop Rock City'... they're all as good as any song from any album... So why has it all turned so bad?? The DOTU singles have seen a pretty poor example of B-sides, IMHO... 'Splice Of Space Jam' anyone? A couple of live tracks which have been released before, the only decent track was 'She's a Politician', again not a new track... What's happened to the good ole BMF days? Releasing CD singles with one B-Side, rereleasing tracks, it's just not the same!! I really do think that what they're doing right now isn't on... I mean, I'd be the first to rush out and by the latest SG single, but not if the B-sides are as poor as they've been, and I'm *NOT* buying a single with no new songs on it... Yeah, I love SG, but I'm not going to follow them blindly... There's a lot of SOMMSters out there in the US desperately trying to get hold of the BUTOW single, some paying big bucks to get it... I'm sending a couple across myself, but what are they going to get??? Two live tracks, a wierd instrumental jam, interesting, but only the first time you listen to it, and luckily one saving grace, the Moby remix of 'Dusted'... You get a poster too, but Hell, I'd rather listen to band than look at them... although some SOMMS Hootchies out there would have troubled souls if they had to make that choice... ;) Later, Brydon ------------------------------ Subject: SU Coloured Vinyl?? From: Brydon Cheyney CS95 Are there any vinyl lovers out there with some details on the Superunknown Limited Edition Coloured vinyl??? I can remember when I first picked one up new, for Aaron Beyer (Mayor McCheese) and he said his was blue, but I recently picked up another copy for Dena and this one's clear! Help? Later, Brydon ------------------------------ From: eliza Subject: supermainwinner ok, a gazillion names in the hat, mix it up, shake it around, and the winner of Supermainstream is ..... GEORGIA!!!!!! i think it's the name...all this stuff came from the Peachtree state - must've given you good luck ;-) Congrats and email me... i'll just keep on a roll here and get the next one done...I have a vinyl Screaming Life EP...yeah, it is basic boring black, but i still think it's cool...it was $8, add a couple for postage and it's yours...email me if you want it... eliza **************************************** I walk these streets alone, shadows hide my face My sins are etched in stone, never to erase My fears unshakeable, if I could believe I'd trade these wings of gold, for what I really need - --CC ------------------------------ From: "Christopher Farley" Subject: RE: quicky..\Ferrivorus According to a rock-line thingy, Ferrivorous is a word Kim made up. It is supposed to mean metal or iron eating (Iron in Latin is ferrous). Chris - ---------- From: Bluem81014@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 1997 8:10 AM To: somms@MIT.EDU Subject: quicky.. i know that you guys look out for fellow sommsters so i need you to help me out. i listen to ntmf everyday and my problem is... WHAT IN THE WORLD DOES FERRIVORUS MEAN? i looked in every dictoinary i could find and im clueless.so please help me!! and will someone email me a sg image so i can use it as a background for my windows... i fashion will and desire always i and i survive mercurial mind the fire ferrivorous?direction and drive... OH! AND A HAP HAP HAPPY BDAY TO WHOEVER THAT DUDE WAS!! I HAVE A BAD MEMORY,SORRY GUYS thanks a bunch bluem81014-bluemoon :-)~ p.s. shhh...dont tell anybody but..my birthday is friday...ill be a devilish 16 yr old on the prowl...this is hush hush ok. hehehe;-) ------------------------------ From: "Lori S. Bingel" Subject: ..I may lay my crowded head... Hey all you SOMMSTERS... To reply to a bunch of intresting threads...(sorry if this seems like old news, but I've been busy)... It was the BMF album that got me hooked on SG. I bought it as a teenager because of Outshined and because all the guys I was in a band with at the time raved about it (and also LTL)...the things that drew me most heavily into the SG sound was Matt's incredibly unique time feel (and the way that he creatively works his own ideas into more traditionally metal-oriented grooves) and Chris's powerful vocal presence. BMF to me is the definitive SG album. It has a uniform, cohesive sound, yet at the same time the guys are definitely pushing things in new directions. Songs like Drawing Flies and Mind Riot have really unique feels but they sound like they belong right with everything else. And like Seth, it was JCP that pushed me to find as much SG material as I could. Funniest song goes to Circle of Power, scariest to 4th of July (for personal reasons), sexiest to Mailman, happiest is a tie between Dusty (for it's lyrics), and believe it or not, Drawing Flies (just listen to the groove! It just kind of rolls along in a happy way, to me at least) I would prefer 3 or 4 more albums and touring than 10 albums. I have never seen SG live (oh, the agony!). Congrats Seth!!! One of my current favorite SG tunes: Cold Bitch. Heard it for the first time on a Spoonman single. Isn't it interesting how in the verses Chris sings really high and intense, and he totally cools off for the chorus (in your heart i'd freeze) part? The change is really dramatic to me - I really love how the parts of that song fuse together. enough for now - Lori ------------------------------ From: eliza Subject: Re: SU Coloured Vinyl?? From the Discog: "A rare few were printed on orange, blue and clear vinyl" The one I just found in Atlanta was orange and very cool looking (and should be arriving in some very special hands today ;-) by the way, where in the *world* is the Mayor??????? At 05:05 PM 2/5/97 +0000, Brydon Cheyney CS95 wrote: > >Are there any vinyl lovers out there with some details on the Superunknown >Limited Edition Coloured vinyl??? I can remember when I first picked one up >new, for Aaron Beyer (Mayor McCheese) and he said his was blue, but I recently >picked up another copy for Dena and this one's clear! > >Help? > >Later, Brydon > > **************************************** I walk these streets alone, shadows hide my face My sins are etched in stone, never to erase My fears unshakeable, if I could believe I'd trade these wings of gold, for what I really need - --CC ------------------------------ From: KENNY BECKWITH <"beckwith@gte.net"@gte.net> Subject: SG songs I can live without/ T.S creation/ SOMMS test/SG fan club SGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSG Hello out there in SG land. Well there are a couple of SG songs I could possibly live without I hate to admit. One is Circle Of Power. In my opnion Hiro should stick to his bass. I can't get in to the song no matter how hard I try. Another is Bens' Half. Just doesn't go well with me. And then their is Jerry Garcias Finger. When I first got Songs From The SU and it got to #4 I was sitting there waiting for Chris to start his singing. 1 min nothing, 2 min nothing, 3 min still nothing and then 4 min and its over. I have to say I was mortified. As long as the good continues to out way the bad I will be satisfied. Now on to the shirt thread... My shirt would be for the song Rinosaur. It isn't my fav but it is the one that I always get this image from. OK here it is. Chris would be riding a rino(rodeo style) and Ben Matt and Kim would be on the side doing something. Like maybe Ben spitting on something or someone, Matt standing there looking happy with his pants down, and Kim stroking his beard and holding a beer. And the back of the shirt would have the lyrics for the whole song because the lyrics sound so cool. Pretty stupid huh? Yall asked. Congratulations Seth!!! You definitly deserve it. I just got my SG fan club welcome package in the mail and I must say I am a tad disappointed in its meager contents. I got a b/w band picture that I had already gotten off of Seths image page. I got a band bio and discography which I had already had. If I read one more time how SG got togather I think I an going to totally wig out. The only thing that I got that was of any use to me was a SG pin that says "Soundgarden". OH yeah and I also got a guitar pick. To bad I don't play the guitar. Personally I feel jipped. I hope that the info the fan club provides is worth my $12.00. What have other people got? Just curious. Sorry I write to much. But being a NEWBIE I just have so much feelings and thoughts that I haven't been able to express yet ;) To bad there isn't some way to have a sort of test before you are able to join the SOMMS page.(questions about how they got togather, past and present members, etc...) Or where you at least have to read through Seths Page before you can join. Because if everyone knows the minor facts about SG and everyone knows that everyone knows this stuff it would save alot of people some embarresment and fustration. SG SOMMS page elders please be patient with us newbies... ********************LOOKING FOR LOUDEST LOVE**************************** Congatulations again Seth. And thank God your gonna stick around. Lisa SGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSG ------------------------------ From: Rebekah Henderson Subject: Everybody join in!! Come on!! For he's a jolly good fellow, for he's a jolly good fellow, for he's a jolly good fellooowwwwwwwwwwwwwwww, which nobody can deny!!!!!!! Congratulations Seth and a great big THANK YOU! :) May Soundgarden be with you. Rebekah :) ------------------------------ From: Judd Pemberton and Erin Kniess Subject: A brief but fierce tongue lashing Hey everybody, I once read an interview in which Kim Thayil describes SG fans as "intelligent". I think that for the most part this is true except for the cases of Trung Tran (or whatever) and Kevin. These are two of the stupidest people that I have ever had the misfortune of reading posts from. You people don't deserve to listen to SG. Hey Kevin, what are you, the fucking mailing list information booth. You should be exiled to a land of eternal country music. As for you Trung Tran, it makes me want to vomit when I see people like you defending this stupid fuck. Personally, I would rather read a post filled with someone verbally bashing him rather than you defending him or about how Black Hole Sun was really the song that did it for them for about the five hundred thousandth billionth time. Maybe if we had more people on the list that flamed the shit out of people who step out of line, then OVER TIME, we wouldnt have these digests that are half filled with shit that take 30 minutes to load. If any of you don't like what I've just said, tough shit because I will not issue an apology to anyone. Later, Judd "Official list asshole and activist against the stupid" ------------------------------ From: Renee Subject: Re: I want out! And you can thank Caryn. I have been perusing this list for a few months now and I have one question- How many children subscribe to it? All the fighting and name calling transports me back to sixth grade. Imagine if the guys from Soundgarden actually sat down and read some the useless drivel slung back and forth on this list. They would find most of you to be pathetic little whiners. Come on, get a life! ------------------------------ From: Natalie De Rojas Subject: Re: Be Nice To Kickstand! On Wed, 5 Feb 1997, Seth wrote: > > Just my .02 to boost the self-esteem of one of my faves. > > Bye > A Different Seth > > Do songs have self-esteem? .well, seth,...i don't know if songs have self esteem,..but i think they have the power to give some off...like you said, kickstand does it for you, for me i think my wave is a winner!...i love to blast that song, its like do whatever you want...JUST KEEP IT OFF MY WAVE! Natalie ------------------------------ From: Spoonmn94@aol.com Subject: Re: Hi Everyone...go out and buy DOTU! First off, I do not think A&M is giving up on the band, hell they won't complain when this is most definitely their most productive group---sorry Dishwalla. Also, Vince brought up something about Rhinosaur being the next/last possible single. I have heard it on the Rock a few times in the past month, Chicago land SOMMSters probably have heard it, and think this would be a better candidate than Ty Cobb. I think more people like Ty Cobb, like myself, but this is more radio "friendly". Toni is on to something, the band must be going on tour this summer. I heard some guy won two tickets to a sg concert anywhere in the us and he won a sg '97 tour jacket a couple of days ago. Spoonmn94 ------------------------------ Subject: jugding newbies From: gotee1@juno.com (Kevin A Stapleton) I don't think you should be jugding people just because they are newbies. I'm sure that I know close to as much if not as much as you about Soundgarden and you seem to think that just because I have not been a memeber of your mailing list very long that I don't know anything about Them or computers, and especialy there I have taught myself and learned a whole hell of a lot about Computers.I'm sure I know just as much as you know about them. cya at least we have Soundgarden Kevin ------------------------------ From: jax00@ix.netcom.com (Jacqueline Franco) Subject: grammy show does anyone know if sg will be at the grammys? i have a chance of going and if they will attend, be sure that i will too. if you guys don't know, who should i ask? thanks ------------------------------ From: "Jamie C." Subject: Technically able.... caryn wrote: > if the list dies i'd probably be the only one technically capable and > willing to run a new one. just a second here...... someone is jumping the gun a little bit. i know many people who actually could run this thing. Definetly not as well as seth, but they could pull it off. My question is: who cares if you can run a list? This isn't a contest. It's not about "who knows more about Soundgarden" or "who has a better computer". i think we should all check our egos at the door. - -- +jamie c.+ * --------------------------------------------------- * * "in your sad machines....you'll forever stay..." * * (billy corgan) * * --------------------------------------------------- * ------------------------------ From: "Jamie C." Subject: Stupid question from now on, let no one who asks a stupid question feel bad! just remember that if you ask a dumb question, it could never be worse than this one: - -How was Chris able to play drums and sing at the same time? I could never do that. there. now no one can be flamed for asking a stupid question. I will bear the burden of having asked possibly one of the lamest questions ever. - -- +jamie c.+ * --------------------------------------------------- * * "in your sad machines....you'll forever stay..." * * (billy corgan) * * --------------------------------------------------- * ------------------------------ From: SJordet@aol.com Subject: something I just read my mail from the last two days, and almost half of it was of people picking on Caryn or her trying to defend herself. Please, just drop the subject. It's just not fair to take something someone said (and I even think it was only half-serious) and turn it into gratuitously vicious civil war. Just remember that Caryn is only one person, and that the people complaining about her and blaming her for actions they decide to take, are, well, a great many more than one person. EVERYBODY MAKES MISTAKES or words something wrong at onetime or another, and it's not fair to rip out their jugular for it. Also, as Vince so wisely suggested, if something someone said is really bothering you, E-Mail them privately. And, for the people who decide to unsubscribe from the list because of some stupid little thing someone said that may have offended them, well then you probably shouldn't have been here in the first place if you can't be mature enough to handle it in a civil way. My humble opinion. AND NOW FOR SOUNDGARDEN CONTENT! I've got a few questions: I recently saw "A Night to Rememer" (Live '94) in a catalog and was wondering if it's worth the thirty bucks they want for it. Is it more like Motorvision, or Louder Than Live? In that same catalog, I also saw about five imported Soundgarden posters. Are these really worth anything more than the regular posters, or do they just say that so they can justify the extra four bucks you have to pay for them? And for Seth - I read about how much you dislike DOTUS. I also think you mentioned something about where you had written this, on the page or something. I'm interested in your opinion of the album, and if you have already recorded your reason for disliking it someplace else, could you please direct me? Congrats to Seth! Benlover ------------------------------ From: Eric Gardner Subject: Tone Deaf (#22) Kate Phelan is the lucky (?) winner of the Ankety Low Day cd. Someone asked if I had altered my last name for the purposes of this list (I forget who it was). The answer is yes. Please excuse me while I go work in the yard. Eric ------------------------------ From: SJordet@aol.com Subject: Shroomy I forgot to mention this in my last post, but has anyone else noticed how the number of letters with actual Soundgarden content dramatically dropped when Shroom's computer blew up? Just felt I had to mention that. Missing Shroomy, Benlover ------------------------------ From: Caryn Rose Subject: sg collectibles & goldmine magazine i picked up an issue of Goldmine over the weekend because I needed to order some plastic sleeves for 45's and LP's and the like, and they always have archive supplies advertised in there. anyway, last night i was bored and decided to actually go through the ads for the collectibles, even though i have no money until april (tax bill). wow, was i surprised by the selection of sg stuff! if you're looking for rare sg stuff (or any other band), this is a magazine i thoroughly recommend. if you're new to collecting or haven't heard of it, it is *the* collector's forum. you have a certain level of security when you order from a dealer who advertises in there because the magazine will actually follow up on complaints against unscrupulous dealers or rip off artists. some of the sg stuff i found was... o posters o Into the Upside for $10 o the downunderon the upside cd for $35 o a never-used matt cameron drumstick for $10 etc etc etc etc. there were people with these items for more money than this, but i was amazed at the price range and selection for items that have been described on this list often. if you live in a city without a good record store or are looking for something specific, this is a good way to find that one item. the magazine is generally available at good newsstands or tower records carries it too... - --caryn who is spending too much $$ on pearl jam singles ;-) ------------------------------ From: u1002740@host.MIT.EDU (Jeffrey Mlinscek) Subject: Re: www.unfURLed.com Congratulations Seth! You rule. That is so cool that you won. You definetley deserve it. Congratulations!!!!!! Slow resistance wins the war. ----Loud Love---- Sean ------------------------------ From: Taylor Holmes Subject: Re: I want out, Hi Everyone, Judging Newbies OK, this is enough. Before long, we're going to have 300 fucking posts from people justifying themselves. Please keep your justifications to private email. Maybe someone can set up a mailing list for all of you to discuss the "newbie controversy", but I for one, don't want to read another damn post about it... Contradicting myself, Taylor - - "All replies to this will be erased" - -- D. Taylor Holmes Senior Quality Assurance Analyst, Automated Test Coordinator Datastream Systems Software, Inc. home: holmest@netdepot.com work: holmest@dstm.com ------------------------------ From: Caryn Rose Subject: shroom reruns in the interest of fun and good humor, and as a proxy for the lead hootchie, I offer these reruns of amusing mail shroom has sent the list. remember, however, to direct your comments regarding our listadmin, chris cornell, and men's undergarments and/or swimsuits directly to saperl@mit.edu. ;-) - --caryn - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 19:45:52 -0500 (EST) From: ShRooMGrLz@aol.com To: "beware.the.seattle.bound.hootchies" Subject: <3 <3 STuFF <3 <3 Biff writes: >Ok, i gotta say something, everytime i turn on this computer i'm >bombarded with smut! Ain't the internet GREAT, Biff?!? ;-) C'mon... don't tell me that you didn't want to see the picture of Matt in his butt-huggers just like everyone else! ;-) (By the way... NICE picture, Mattster. ;-) >I was under the assumption that this list was controlled by a certian >friend of ours at MIT. No no no no no, it's time we faced the facts, >the list has been taken over by satan and his soundgarden people. >THE HOOTCHIES ARE LOOSE!! AND THEY'RE ALL ON THIS LIST!! >PLANNING, WAITING FOR THE DAY!! And this is a newsflash? ;-) Honey, the hootchies have been in control of this list from the beginning! Sure I'm the official SOMMS hootchie... but WHO do you think I take my orders from???!? SETH. Yes, that's right. Seth is actually a closet hootchie, and he just didn't want anyone to know abou.... oops. I probably shouldn't have just said that. Ummm... sorry Seth. ;-) j/k Seth isn't a hootchie. He's as innocent as a newborn babe.... pure as the driven snow... as perfect as Chris' sexy bod... oh wait, I think I'm getting carried away here. ;-) >I wonder who we owe this sudden arousal and coming out of the >closet too, hmmmmmmm? Whoever would set that kind of an >example? (Wink in the general direction of Texas) AND JUST WHAT ARE YOU IMPLYING?!? That *I'm* responsible for this outbreak of hootchie-ness? Ummm... thank you! Thank you very much! I'm very proud of the CCHB (Chris Cornell Hootchie Brigade) and SSH (Soundgarden SOMMS Hootchies). :::clapclapclapclapclap::: >And If I were you Seth, i would make sure that i had an escape route, >because hootchies are mobile, they like to take road trips, and i >can about guess where stop number two would be. :) Woohoo!! Cambridge, here we come! Caryn and I are jumping on the next plane over... so make sure you have extra chocolate sauce and whipped cream, Sethmeister! ;-) Soundgrdnj@aol.com wrote: >Someones got alot of time on their hands. >Give people a break! >OR I'LL START SHOUTING > and using rong spelling and grammar. >k? Attention kiddies... I know that a bunch of you are new to SOMMS, so take heed. Everyone has been *amazingly* tolerant of all the inane crap that has been posted here in the last month or so... but it has to stop. (And no cracks about the inane stuff I post, I've done my time on this list and therefore earned the right to post meaningless crap. ;-) If any of you had posted last year, you would have been RIGHTFULLY flamed to hell and back. I know that we're all trying to be nice and get along here... but I'm tired of it. The "has alot of time on their hands" post was too much. As a fully authorized SOMMS deputy, I'm afraid that I have to announce this: ***Post anything like that again, and I'll kill you.*** Oops... that was a KTMS post. I meant to say, don't post things like that anymore please... or else I'll have to get the SOMMS Sheriff (thuggy) to kill you. Killing is out of my jurisdiction. I can only break kneecaps and such. *sigh* Two more quick things... as to the "scariest song" thread, I don't find any of SG's stuff frightening. Exhilarating, yes... scary, no. My favorite song for the last month has been "New Damage" with Brian May. I had thought that "Beyond the Wheel" gave me chills... but THIS song just knocks me over. Chris really went off on it vocally. I'd *love* to hear him do it live... just like this version. =) The second thing is in reference to the SiCA webpage. I know I had posted that I'd have it finished by today... but I'm running into some snags, so I'll work on it this weekend, and have it up on Monday. Thanks to everyone who wrote and asked about it. =) You guys are the greatest! :::still imaging Chris in wet boxers... but have added a hot tub::: Shroomy "Shroom, even though you're the official SOMMS hootchie, I'm afraid that Seth is just infinitely sexier than you... so I'm taking him with me to Hawaii instead. Yes, you look great in a bikini... but you're nothing compared to Seth in his Speedos. Maybe next time..." ~ Chris Cornell (Words not necessarily said in that order...) <~~~ my disclaimer ------------------------------ From: Caryn Rose Subject: more shroom reruns the last one, i promise. (but it's funny...) - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 22:36:36 -0500 (EST) From: ShRooMGrLz@aol.com To: "gotta.love.that.chris.cornell" Cc: GeekGirl@aol.com, ShRooMGrLz@aol.com Subject: SiCA website! (Soundgarden Snob Central) Well kiddies... I've finally finished the freaking website. Sethmeister... I *really* have a new admiration for what you've done with the unofficial site. The SiCA page was one of the biggest pains I've ever had (well, except for my CAR BREAKING DOWN on a FRIDAY NIGHT)... but as they say (whoever in the hell "they" are), it was a labor of love. Don't expect anything fancy, kiddies. The major differences are that the links are now clickable pictures (ohhhhh), there's different pages for different links (ooooooh), and I've added a guest book and counter (ahhhhhhh). Plus some more smart-ass comments, a thank you page... and a BRAND NEW picture of Dena (aka Geek Girl, aka Blessed SOMMS Goddess, aka crazy shirt/hat making woman). The picture of Dena is from a *very* late night ice cream sundae and whipped cream expedition that her, Vikki, Ryan and I had one evening while we were in Seattle last October. Is she drunk in it? Mmmmmmmaybe? Mmmmmaybe not. ;-) Anyway... update your bookmarks, kiddies... 'cause I changed the URL, too. If you try to access the old one, I put up a little message directing you to the right spot. Oh... and *please* sign the damned guestbook. I really didn't care if we had one or not, but my mistress Dena commanded me to put it up. Ummm... she's gonna smack me for saying that. ;-) Anyway... MORE PICTURES OF CHRIS... and I'll hopefully have a few new surprises in the next couple of weeks. I haven't updated the Chris Cornell is God site yet, though. But give me a couple of days before sending me life-threatening e-mail, ok? Thank yew, and good night. http://members.aol.com/shroomgrlz/sica.html Shroomy Here's what the critics have said about the new and improved SiCA site: "It was the most intellectually stimulating experience I've ever had in my life. I am now smarter for having checked it out." ~ Kim Thayil "I don't know how to turn a computer on, so I kicked the monitor until it shattered... and then I spat all over the fucking thing." ~ Ben Shepherd "Oh, such pretty pretty pictures..." ~ Matt Cameron "....and I've already written 3 songs about the SiCA site since I first checked it out this afternoon! It's going to be a source of never-ending inspiration to me, I can tell already. I'm going to recommend it to all of my fellow rock stars. I also found it highly erotic, and I'm looking forward to meeting it's creator, Shroom Girl. I feel the need to get down on my KNEES and thank her for the mentally masturbatory qualities that she has implemented into the site... and all in my honor. It's the greatest compliment I've ever received...." ~ Chris Cornell ------------------------------ From: Rebekah Henderson Subject: Proof that there is a God. Picture it: You're exercising. You're hot, sweaty, and tired. You're listening to your hard rock radio station, but all they're playing is songs you don't like by bands you don't like and throwing in the occasional song you just can't identify. Of course this makes it worse and you feel even more tired. You're finally down to your last exercise that takes about 5 minutes to do and all of a sudden you here "Follow me into the desert as thirsty as you are...." A broad happy smile appears on your face and the last 5 minutes of exercise are done without a problem. SG just gives you that extra bit of energy needed to finished whatever is incomplete. Whether it be physical, emotional, or mental. Has anybody else noticed this?? It's like no matter how drained or depressed you are, SG just lifts you back up. They're like a support system or something. Just thought I would share this life-saving (well...almost) experience with everyone. :) May Soundgarden be with you. Rebekah ------------------------------ From: Redodin@aol.com Subject: Re: sg collectibles & goldmine magazine Thanks for the info Caryn. Hands are made for shaking, no not tying ------------------------------ From: Redodin@aol.com Subject: Re: something I was replying to the "benlover's" question to the list on the video "A Special Night"? I don't have any info for you,but if you do get good reviews would you be so kind to share the catolog with us , or how to find this? That would be great!!! Dreams have never made my bed-- words by CC ------------------------------ Subject: "Jamie C." : Technically able.... From: gotee1@juno.com (Kevin A Stapleton) - --------- Begin forwarded message ---------- From: "Jamie C." To: somms@MIT.EDU Subject: Technically able.... Date: Wed, 05 Feb 1997 15:35:40 -0600 Message-ID: <32F8FD2C.61A5@callisto.uwinnipeg.ca> caryn wrote: > if the list dies i'd probably be the only one technically capable and > willing to run a new one. just a second here...... someone is jumping the gun a little bit. i know many people who actually could run this thing. Definetly not as well as seth, but they could pull it off. My question is: who cares if you can run a list? This isn't a contest. It's not about "who knows more about Soundgarden" or "who has a better computer". i think we should all check our egos at the door. - -- +jamie c.+ * --------------------------------------------------- * * "in your sad machines....you'll forever stay..." * * (billy corgan) * * --------------------------------------------------- * - --------- End forwarded message ---------- I think Jamie's right we should all stop this shit about the newbies and who knows more Kevin ------------------------------ From: "merlin.dwc@internetmci.com" Subject: Black hole sun won't you come. . . Hey... there's been a lot of talk about how sick of BHS people are. So I just wanted to say that just because a song gets a lot of airplay and mainstream attention - that doesn't change it. I mean, BonJovie could do a cover of it (Heaven forbid - I'm only kidding) and it could be played 24 hrs a day and it would still be the same song. True, there are some songs out there that the first couple times I heard them I liked them, and then after I'd heard them about 50 times I'd just change the station when they came on. But not BHS, or any SG song for that matter - they're all too special, too *good* for me to ever get tired of. Once a favorite song always a favorite song. In fact, it's great when my favorite songs get a lot of airplay and atten= tion. It makes me happy. As far as BHS being something that everybody can listen to - I disagree. I know people - some of my friends, actually - who referred to it as "creepy" - especially after the video came out. Of course then I got into huge arguements w/ them... but my point is I see absolutely no similarity between BHS and "Only Wanna Be With You" by Hootie, for example. And one more thing... on a few occasions I've been accused of being a trendy (not by anyone on the list) for saying that a song such as BHS (a popular song released as a single) was one of my favorites. Well, that's the biggest bunch of bullshit I've ever heard in my life, and I don't really let it get to me anymore. But one thing I am not and will never be is a trendy. And people like that aren't gonna make me hesitant to express my opinions. And I wonder if this ever occurred to them - maybe the band released BHS as a single because they *knew* it was one of their best. And I'm sure that CC's feelings about BHS haven't changed because it's one of their most popular songs, or else he wouldn't play beautiful, heartfelt solo versions of it at every show. Okay, I'm finished. Again, sorry for the long post. :) ~Lorraine "nothing seems to break me no matter how far I fall nothing can break me at all" ------------------------------ From: Eileen Subject: I'm going to Hawaii... Just received my tickets for Hawaii today... just to see you know who!!! I am soooo excited, just had to share it wit' y'all!! Ahola!!! Eileen ------------------------------ From: "Steven Russell Jr." Subject: A Flower in the Desert "I don't feel like feeling...feeling like you" Due to the petty bickering and childish games being played on this list the last few days...I just had to say that there actually exists acts of kindness and non pettiness being done by members of our little community. They need to be acknowledged. Don't think this list contains nothing but hateful childlike behaviour. The vast majority of us don't think/act that way. I think some of you need some perspective on how you're acting. Take a step back and see how you're coming across... "money can't give what the truth takes away" **hmph** why am I bothering to say anything... If the constant bickering hasnt exhausted some of you by now...you must be feeding on it. Have fun...some of us won't be playing the 'holier than thou' version of the home game. "no one sings like you anymore" Anyway, if you've read this far and don't hate me :) I just received some of the most *amazing* works of art that I've ever seen. I am so happy to have these items in my collection and due to the kindness and (in my eyes) total sainthood of a fellow sommster... I have these "uber-cool" records in my possesion that mean *so* much to me. All I can say is...thanks, you're the best :-) All are coloured vinyl. Stacked on top of each other...they look exactly like a roll of life savers. One contains the absolute coolest colour of red I've ever seen. It almost looks edible :) The others remind me of an orange sorbet type colour and a yellow one that screams "Lemon" :) Hmmm...ya know, all of them would really look cool in handwritten black magic marker :) Not only is this some of the best eye candy I've ever experienced...the sound!!!!! Oh my gawd!!!! "the clarity is chilling" I thought I was listening to badmotorfinger for the first time!!!! I heard things I've never heard before. Different frequencies are enhanced via vinyl than over CD. I'm not sure of the technicalities...but there is a warmth to the sound of a record that a CD will never come close to matching. Also, there is no experience like opening a piece of vinyl...smelling the wax :-) Feeling the heavy texture of the paper lyric inserts :-) Looking at all the cool extra art that exists in the packaging. I was in total nirvana :-) I have listened to every SG release on vinyl cept Ultramega OK (coming very soon) and Screaming Life, cuz I refuse to play my copy :) ...and I hope each one of you can experience the rich sound of vinyl Soundgarden. *Every* release sounds so much better on vinyl. The gatefold of Superunknown ("so the midwest kids can clean their pot" - K. Thayil) contains the Reyza artwork that graced the Summer 1994 Tour Poster. Weird shit :) The 'space jam' and/or "Jerry Garcia's Finger" (I'm blankin) part of AITS was inspired by that work of art and from the bands meeting members of the Greatful Dead during the Dead's Seattle show in '95. Speaking of Space Jam, I finally listened to it (thanks justin) and unless you're into some trance techno stuff (chemical brothers, orb, prodigy)...I can see why people don't like it. Lastly, I just saw the Flower video....big shout out to Mr. Kleemola :-) If you're a minimalist SG fan...it's well worth the download time :-) Excellent job Geoff ! Full On, steve - - "stop you're trying to bruise my mind i can do it on my own stop you're trying to kill my time it's been my death since i was born" ------------------------------ From: SJordet@aol.com Subject: Re: something OK, I'm letting out my secret. I've given a few other people head starts on this, and was hesitant about sharing this with the people who don't yet know about it, but, what the heck! I don't have the money to order half the stuff I want in there, anyway, so I might as well share it with other people who do. If you want great Soundgarden stuff, write to: Rockabilia, Inc. P.O. box 4206 Hopkins, MN 55343 Or call: (612) 942-7895 Or fax: (612) 942-5341 They should send you a catalog - but don't be too impatient. They take quite a while to send things. I live in Plymouth, MN, and it took them a month to send me my SG shirt and poster (what even miffed me off more was that the poster was discontinued!) when their company is 5 miles away from me! But, then again, I did order it around Christmas, so they might be a little quicker for you guys. This is one of the best things that could happen to a SG fan, though, if you want rare recordings, backstage passes, bootleg videos and recordings, rare posters, promo photos, clothing, stickers, keychains, etc. It is very much worth the wait. =) I will say, though, that the "Night to Remember" thingie is not in that catalog - I haven't ordered anything from those guys yet. But, if I do end up ordering it, I'll be sure and give you a review and address! By the way, what's so quotatious about my name? =) Have fun! Benlover ------------------------------ From: Greg Dunbar Subject: Re: BUTOW single >My only question is. Why does the cover have the >tomato with the worm coming out of it, and then on the reverse side has a >lot of worms on a tomato? Well I guess the tomato is what the 'worms' world is. They are breaking outside of the tomato's skin (outside) so I guess they are 'blowing up their outside world'. Just a thought. "My mind is open to new ideas. The divine mind is inexhaustible. The spirit is ever active in me. There is no weary or monotonous action in spirit. It is forever new and vibrant with new ideas. I know that I am continually receiving new impressions from life. New, better and fuller ways of living. I let the newness, freshness and originality of spirit permeate my entire consciousness" - Ernest Holmes - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Visit "The Seas Of Cheezcake" http://www.cbl.com.au/~greg/index.html - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ------------------------------ From: Rita Bonofiglio Subject: I don't like this song!! ...keeping in tune with latest thread, the following are sg songs i just don like : 0!! KICKSTAND never liked this song, never grew on me, probably never will its boring boring boring and... HALF what is up with this piece of work, don't get it, but then again i don't get most of what ben does anyway (gotta love him!) ; ) this is a little late but let me say it anyway, pllleeaassseee!! sexiest song: big dumb sex how can you not...just go NUTS when you hear chris hollering "I WANT TO FUCK YOU"over and over and over and over and over and over again...yeah i'm being a hootchie...and i love it! (thanks shroom!) your friend and UNofficial somms mental patient, - -----rita b. hey i know what to do i'm gonna fuck fuck fuck fuck you fuck you---->chirs cornell (ok christopher j. do it already!...sorry, sorry, i'll stop!) ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: come stand me up... On Tue, 4 Feb 1997, Greg Fox wrote: > I got this off the Alice in Chains list, and I was wondering if there is > anything about this in the FAQ. I hate to post this question, but I don't > have web access here at home. Anyone have any info for me about Pigeon > Head?? information on pigeonhed (amongst other fairly standard stuff) will be added to the soundgarden faq by the end of this month. thanks to those listers who provided the answers for all those web-deprived sommsters around the world. btw, requests for new faq information are now being entertained... ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide - words by kim thayil ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: sure don't mind a change... On Tue, 4 Feb 1997, Julian Curwin wrote: > Does anyone have any idea why the Fell On Black Days original version > (found on the single) is a totally different song to the Fell On Black Days > from Superunknown? the original demo of fobd (recorded by chris at home, I imagine) sounded greatly different to the current incarnation on superunknown. below is an extract from matt's interview with _modern drummer_ in 1994 that talks briefly about fobd. although I'm not sure that a new bass line was the only change, considering the huge differences between the demo version on the single and the album version itself. my guess is that there were quite a few re-writes and transformations between the two. "Cameron's passion for the new record didn't develop, though, until late in the recording stages. "We weren't really blown away when we first heard the demos for 'Black Days'," Matt explains, "because we hadn't made it into a Soundgarden song yet. But Ben added a great bass part that fit with the vocal melody, and Kim (Thayil, guitarist) put in some harmony parts on the end that took the song into another gear. Chris has written a lot of songs over the years that we've never been able to sink our teeth into until now, songs like 'Fell On Black Days' that have more of a pop arrangement. And the result proved to be songs that aren't necessarily more accessible, but have more depth and are more musical than anything we've done before. Still, they didn't sound like Soundgarden songs for me until all the tracks were down." ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide - words by kim thayil ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Carolyn Hanel Subject: threads.........sewing, anyone? Better late than never? If these threads have already been sewn up, = then just delete this post! :-) The song that got me in: Rusty Cage. Now I'm not sure whether that was because it happened to be = the first song on BMF, but I clearly remember the thoughts that ran = through my head when it first blared out of our stereo. I had been on = this list a week or so - I really enjoyed Superunknown (yes - another = fan who now has every SG disk but who started with SU), loved my = new-found friends on this list, and decided I had to buy other SG disks. = BMF was the suggested one to start with. The day I got BMF I actually = got SIX other disks as well - by various other bands - all from my CD = mailing order club. I was so excited when I picked them up from the = Post Office on the way home, I drove WAY too fast to get there and put = the first one on. SEVEN CDs! I'd never bought so many at once. The first one to make the CD player was BMF. I put it on, turned the = stereo up pretty loud, opened all the windows and ducked outside to = water the garden. No sooner had the opening part started, I was back = inside, my mouth open in amazement with what I was hearing. I played that song three times over before I even heard the rest of the = CD. And then when Blair came home I played it again for him. No song = ever before or since has made me stand up and take notice like that one = has. The lines that got me in: Not only in the way Chris sings it in his nice deep voice I wish he'd = use more often, but also what he says in the latter part of Slaves and = Bulldozers is special to me. Every word I said is what I mean Everything I gave is what I need Everything I've held is what I've freed Everything I've shown is what I feel Woooo! :-) Carolyn the Mulled Fortified-wine How I feel for you - I feel for you.......Soundgarden ------------------------------ From: Carolyn Hanel Subject: Kurt Cobain murder investigation Sorry I know this isn't SG related - but I want to try for any American = who might be interested. Aired on NBC TV's "Unsolved Mysteries" show = this Friday night (7th February) will be a segment on Tom Grant's = investigation of Kurt Cobain's murder {yes - he (and I) believes Kurt = didn't commit suicide}. If anyone happens to catch this show, could you PLEASE email me to let = me know your thoughts on it? I would really appreciate this........... Thanks, Carolyn the mf ------------------------------ From: Mandy Crook Subject: Various threads Hi all, a couple of things. first off, congratulations Seth, onya mate! Now a couple of the threads, >i cannot listen to 'superunknown' because of BHS. I can't stand it, i >will change the radio to listen to ANYBODY instead of hearing that song, >i can't stomach it. I couldnt believe this, finally someone else who hates BHS, and I agree with Seth re skipping most of DOTU, is it a matter of exposure? if I listen to it more will I like it more? I find it hard to put it on what with the new TOOL album which seems to be constantly on our stereo. Song the got me into SG - Slaves and Bulldozers, well Outshined actually, that was the first one I saw on TV, asked a friend who had BMF to tape it for me and then it was S&B, blew me aawaay! Oh did anyone in Oz see the Sydney Morning Herald review for SG at the Hordern? it was god damn awful, if anyone wants a look I could type it up, but I assure you it will make you all hate Sydney siders and dismiss us all as ignorant yobs. Cheers Mandy ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 3 Issue 32] ***************************************