From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Wednesday, 5 Feb 1997 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Wed, 05 Feb 1997 01:56:05 EST Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Wednesday, 5 Feb 1997 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: Show me the power Chris Re: Songs we hate/laugh at Questions to all your answers www.unfURLed.com SG's final Aust tour date... Re: BHS dedication? Fell On Black Days Re: painted blue across my eyes... Re: Songs we hate Re: www.unfURLed.com FoBD 665/667 forward/reverse Last Aust date.... who do I kill? Fresh Deadly Rarieties? Re: Hi everybody. 10 albums? Come together? too long? Moby remix songs that hooked me, etc... Catch up comments Re: www.unfURLed.com Re: SG Anagrams... Re: Hi everybody. Re: BHS dedication? Re: Hi everybody. drifting in and out... the last time MTV showed something good Re: Hi everybody. New people to the list. and i think i like it... Re: Rockin' till age 40 first i smelled it in my car... Re: www.unfURLed.com too old Re: another -iest thread... Next album... SG's future Hi Everyone...go out and buy DOTU! Re: who do I kill? songs we hate Re: Hi Everyone...go out and buy DOTU! clarification/apology RE: Seth's love of JCP Re: first i smelled it in my car... Why hate ANY song? Re: Pigeon Head That Special SG Song (cont'd) Desirable bootlegs. Cut the thread!!! BUTOW single To newcomer Kevin w/ all the info. WARNING- LONG POST!! Re: Pigeon Head Re: www.unfURLed.com RE: is it too much to ask? I say yes, it is! ------------------------------------------------------------ From: "Stella Rogers" Subject: Show me the power Chris (Attn: Sorry I got carried away, this is a long post!) Well my vote for silliest/funniest song would have to go to Circle of Power. It makes me laugh everytime I hear it. I don't know but to me Hiro sounds like a big ol' yodeling redneck. Go ahead and flame me but hey, that's just my opinion. Exit Stonehenge and One Min. of Silence are other votes. And what song got me to realize that sg was more than just any band...i guess Outshined drew me in. Actually it was more the video. I guess I was about 13, sittin in my room doing my homework. Had the tv turned to MTV, wasn't really watching it, just listening to it and Outshined comes on. I heard *that* voice...deep and pretty damn erotic if i do say so myself. Then I heard the guitar...heavy and brooding. I wasn't really into that kind of music then but I for some reason I started paying attention then. And then I looked up to pay some attention to the song and oh my god that face, that body...yowsa. (oh come on like you didn't notice the first time you saw that video besides it really was the music that caught my attention first) And then a couple days later i saw them being interviewed on Headbangers Ball. I caught the name of their album and went out and bought it the next week. I guess I've been addicted ever since. To answer other threads... Scariest song: Half usually does the trick for me. Bens vocals are way too high and give me chills every listen. Weird huh? Applebite is tingling too. Happiest song: I'd have to agree with the majority and say Dusty. Especially live when they have the little video playing behind them. To be cliche it gives me a "warm feeling in my heart". Does anyone else think this song kinda sounds like Free by Phish? Also Fresh Tendrils for some reason makes me a happy camper. Sexiest song: Mailman, no doubt. For the same reason that Shroom pointed out, angry love is somewhat erotic and sexy. Songs I skip: Practically none but I don't really like listening to the short instrumental b-sides. I just like Motorcycle Loop. Wow this is the longest post I've ever written. Gheeze if you've read all of my ramblings and you're not pissed off yet...will you marry me? :-) PS - I'm dying to hear Moby's remix of Dusty. Can anyone sample it and make it into a .wav file? (Real Audio SUCKS! I can't stand to deal with it anymore.) Now not the whole song dearhearts, my computer could never handle it. Just a little sample so I can get the feel of the song. stella ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Songs we hate/laugh at From: seth > >So what song are you sort of sick of by SG? What song, if any, do you fast > >forward over when listening to an album? As a general rule, I skip over Soundgarden's "fast" songs -- not so much because I'm sick of them, but because I prefer the huge, slow tracks. Let Me Drown, Kickstand and Spoonman are out (though Spoonman, of course, *rocks* live). Most of DOTU is out, though my dislike of that whole album is an entirely separate post, which can be found somewhere in the archives. I'll fast-forward through Get On The Snake and Full On Kevin's Mom to get to Loud Love any day. The two albums that have no skippers are Ultramega OK and Badmotorfinger. It just seems like it would be a sacrilege to leave out any tracks. And then there are the b-sides, which often are skippable/laughable -- I mean, Shroom will disagree with me here, but Exit Stonehenge is a skipper, and both Jerry Garcia's Finger and A Splice Of Space Jam are wholly unnecessary. Karaoke, while very slightly better than the vast majority of DOTU, is still a skipper, as is Bleed Together (in fact, the only new b-side that's worth much is the Moby Mix of Dusty, which is far better than the original). Other remixes, like the alternate versions of Big Dumb Sex and Spoonman, are entertaining, but I'd be lying if I said I ever took out the CDs to listen to those particular tracks. B-sides that are definitely NOT skippers (and fit rather neatly into the "fast song" rule) are Toy Box, Cold Bitch, Heretic, Fresh Deadly Roses, and Come Together. I guess I could go on and on, but I won't. :) Hoping Nothing To Say is the next "live" b-side, seth ------------------------------ From: Moonsta693@aol.com Subject: Questions to all your answers Well, sommsters, it's time for another round of my questions, and answers. Well, first of all, i was listening to Switch Opens at a massive volume the other day, and I knew that Chris and the guys said that they recorded the song "live" so it didn't seem so weird. does anyone else hear the chatting going on at the intro? It's just some background stuff going on in the back. I hear Matt loud and clear. I suggest listening for it the next time you hear the song. next, i would make a shirt for blow up the outside world. A picture of the world with a big mushroom cloud over it, and the guy's mugs inside the cloud. Can't you just picture it now? I have a whole lot more ideas, but I don't want to bore you all with them. As for the thread with my Magic soundgarden song. Believe it or not, I was a fool. I actually connected with Black Hole sun. It had it's good points, 'cuase hey, I wouldn't be here if it weren't for that song, I might still be listening to Boys 2 Men(shivers rolldown my spine) so, that's all for now boys and gals. TOots The original pretty noose (the outkast) "Foo's younger vintage sister" ------------------------------ Subject: www.unfURLed.com From: seth Well, I guess it's official. We won. :) Thanks to everyone who voted, and huge thanks to everyone who made the page what it is today after almost 3 years of work -- you know who you are, and the Soundgarden fan community has you to thank. By the way, I've decided I'm not giving up the website when I graduate. Though I'll be out of touch for a month, there's no doubt I'm going to have Net access wherever I wind up, and I just can't let go. Not yet. Not until I'm finished making the site as good as I can make it. seth ------------------------------ From: Georgia Kennedy Subject: SG's final Aust tour date... The countdown begins. Only three more hours, and Soundgarden bless our ears with their final show in Perth. Am I excited? Georgia. ------------------------------ Subject: Re: BHS dedication? From: kalyssa@juno.com (Katie E Williams) On Tue, 4 Feb 1997 05:35:49 -0500 tonerkin writes: > Katie, You will most likely hear from several people on this but I >will go >ahead and tell you for the 6th or 7th time. Back in November we had >SOMMSfest here in Chicago. We ended up with appx. 27 sommsters coming >to >the two shows on Saturday and Sunday night. Saturday night we all got >to go >backstage and meet the band and watch the show from the VIP balcony. I got around to reading the back digests on the Chicago concert and was just sitting there with my jaw open in envy...=) no fair! I can only hope this opportunity comes up again sometime.. One more question (sorry I'm bringing up subjects you guys have probably already talked about a thousand times..) but.. I read the stuff about the Seattle concert here last month too.. did some of you get to meet Soundgarden again? or what exactly is an aftershow pass? (never been priviledged to have anything close to any kind of special pass...) =) I promise to shut up about old news after this.. ~Katie ------------------------------ From: "Julian Curwin" Subject: Fell On Black Days Does anyone have any idea why the Fell On Black Days original version (found on the single) is a totally different song to the Fell On Black Days from Superunknown? ------------------------------ From: Greg Dunbar Subject: Re: painted blue across my eyes... >all things being equal, I think soundgarden will be around for a >very long time. age is not a factor. I think your right Blind Dog. They don't seem to be declining at all, fresh from DOTU (which despite a bit of bad press on this list I think it rocks) and seeing them live, where they were totally awesome - I think theres a lot of life left in the Sg camp. >> and..what do u guys think about the next SG album?do u guys think they >> should pursue a diiferent direction...or just go back to the days of >> UMOK..u know..that raw dirty sound.... I think that those days are long gone (to draw upon Mad Season's "Long Gone Day"). I personally wouldn't like it if Soundgarden went back to what they were when they were starting out because they've progressed so much since those days. Matt didn't write as much back then, Ben wasn't in the band at that time - and they have input so many fresh sounds and ideas into the band (Drawing Flies & Half for example). I think that the next album, although this is pure speculation, may have a heavier feel to it in parts. Kim seemed a bit annoyed that he only wrote one song on DOTU, which was a huge change from the Screaming Life/Ultramega days where he and Hiro seemed to write most stuff (am I right there), and Kim's songs seem to be heavy and aggressive (Never The Machine Forever, Kickstand). But yeah, I guess I'm totally happy with how they're travelling at the moment, and I don't doubt that whatever they do in the future will be true to themselves and their beliefs/conceptions. Sorry if I've totally rambled on like an idiot ;) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Visit "The Seas Of Cheezcake" http://www.cbl.com.au/~greg/index.html - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ------------------------------ From: Greg Dunbar Subject: Re: Songs we hate >i cannot listen to 'superunknown' because of BHS. I can't stand it, i >will change the radio to listen to ANYBODY instead of hearing that song, >i can't stomach it. I find it hard to comprehend that you feel that way! (well thinking about it maybe not.....man I'm sick of Enter Sandman by you-know-who) I guess I didn't listen to the radio enough when it was released...when I 1st got into Soundgarden it was about 6 months after Superunknown was released and I'd never heard Black Hole Sun until I listened to the whole album - My Wave was the only Soundgarden song I'd EVER previously heard (must have been naive or ignorant at the time!!). But anyway, I'm glad I didn't then cause I really like the song, Chris' solo version is superb, it should be released as a B-Side one day. >'fell on black days' got to me when the album was >released because of overplay but now it's one of my favorites... Does anyone else really like the video version? After hearing FOBD a fair bit as I really like it, I thought that the video version was a real change to the actual version, (which I only just got a few weeks back on the Tour Edition of DOTU) and I think it sounds 'sadder' if that's the word. His lyrics sound more heartfelt and emotional than on SU I think. Anyone else feel the same? - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Visit "The Seas Of Cheezcake" http://www.cbl.com.au/~greg/index.html - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ------------------------------ Subject: Re: www.unfURLed.com From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) > Well, I guess it's official. We won. :) Way to go Seth.. You know we are all very proud of you and the work you have done. You have not only put out a great web site, you have given the SOMMs members a place to come and be with others who worship this great band. I'm really happy to hear you will be keeping the web page just wouldn't be the same with out our List Master Seth. Thank you and congratulation!! Jamie (Village Idiot/SOMMs Mom - who thanks you for more than you will ever know) ------------------------------ From: CAMPBELLCG@bvu.edu Subject: FoBD >Does anyone have any idea why the Fell On Black Days original version (found on the single) is a totally different song to the Fell On Black Days from Superunknown? Ok, i read somewhere (golly, i wonder where i could have gotten sg info?) that they tried to use that name on a couple other songs before the version found on SU. I think Chris said it was a cool name and he had tried to apply it to some other songs before that but they haden't ever been very good. My guess would be that this is one of the other songs. Please correct me if i'm wrong, or someone please confirm this info. On a bit of a side note. Huge congrats to everyone who voted or has contributed to the page for the unfurled compition. And *especially* to our wonderful litadmin. BTW Seth, what happens now? Do they send the President to your house for dinner or something? Or maybe Bill Gates buys you something? weeping with joy at the decision made by Seth to stay with his deciples and give up a good chunk of his free time for the good of man/womankind! biff ------------------------------ From: setward2@uwc.edu Subject: 665/667 forward/reverse Good Morning Somms! After a night of battling insomnia by reading back issues of computer mags (if that won't help you sleep, what will?), I fell upon a wonderfully easy way to listen to music backwards using your very own home computer. I tried it with (of course) 665 and 667 and IT RULES!! If you have a CD-ROM drive, QT MoviePlayer 2.5, and some extra drive space, then you too can have the pleasure of interpreting your favorite "satanic messages" right in the comfort of your own home. (WARNING: The way I am describing this is the method I used for Macintosh, and I honestly don't know if it will be different for Windows or any other OS, although I believe all QT stuff originates from Apple in the 1st place, so good luck!) 1) First start MoviePlayer with Ultramega OK in your CD drive. Choose Open or do a Cmnd-O, whichever is your preference. When the window opens asking you to choose what you want open, double-click on Audio CD 1. 2) Select Track 4 by clicking once. Name your song in the appropriate box. There is an options button bar that lets you decide things like 8 or 16 bit recording, and mono or stereo, etc. I recommend beefing everything up as good as you can, but all of this takes up more and more space. (Both tracks, recorded in the highest possible quality used approx. 27.1 MB of space, totally.) 3) Once you have decided all this and have clicked OK in the Options window, click the button bar that says Convert, and the song is on its merry way to becoming a Quick Time Movie. It takes a minute or two, so just hang on. 4) When the computer is done converting the format, open up the song/movie track/whatever and give it a test run to make sure everything came out cool. Then, using the mouse, drag the counter bar thingy (not the tech. term, but you know...) to the very end of the song. 5) HERE IS THE TRICK If you hold down the CONTROL button and click and hold on the REW/FF buttons, they become a slider knob with which you can play the song (or any QT Movie, I guess) at variable speeds Forward AND Backward!!! 6) It will take 2 or 3 tries to get the speed right, but once you do, you can hear Chris's *secret messages* as clear as if he were right there with you. Well not that good, but it works. Try it on SG or the Beatles or Hotel California, or any Death Metal you might have about that is rumored to have special hidden or reverse lyrics. I hope this works for everybody. I'm sure there are better ways to do this, but I was pretty proud of myself for my deductive reasoning, and it is something accesible to most of us for free, so I thought I would share with the group like a good kiddie. Don't say I never did anything for you! :) Have fun, and don't be corrupted by the messages A Different Seth BTW: If anyone caught Loveline on Friday (the inferior TV version) you may have noticed once when they cut to a commercial, the background tune was Hands All Over. Cool Shit, now if they would just play the old videos! ------------------------------ From: Georgia Kennedy Subject: Last Aust date.... I've just returned from the most incredible concert I've ever been to. There were so many things that happened tonight that could've soured the experience, but NOTHING could taint what I just saw. SG just finished their last Australian show one hour ago now, and was it good!! Every song they played tonight just went off, and it really seemed like the guys were relishing playing their last date in this country. Unfortunately, I forgot my pen tonight. I had high hopes of being squashed in the crowd at the front of the stage, and thought I was assured of that by the "General Admission" written on my ticket - but no! this only meant that I had to stay in the seated area, but in any available seat of my choice. So I settled for front row right in front, a fair way back from the stage (50 metres or so), but still close enought to see Chris's right Pec jumping up and down while he was playing (settle down, girls!). There was a really young crowd there, all trying to jump the low fences into the open standing area (where I wanted to be!!), but the security was pretty tight, and apart from a couple of rushes at the fences, when maybe 100 or so kids bolted for the pit, we were all stuck there. So I made sure I made the most of it! Songs they played that I can remember, in no particular order: Spoonman (opener), My Wave, Let Me Drown, SWMGEC, Rusty Cage, Outshined, Waiting for the Sun, Helter Skelter fading into Boot Camp, Ty Cobb, BUTOW, Pretty Noose, No Attention, Burden in my Hand, BHS (to vigorous groanings of pleasure from me & my two friends - that voice!!!!), Search and Destroy sung by Tim Rogers from You Am I, and Jesus Christ Pose to finish. Ben and Kim seemed to be enjoying themselves for the best part of the night, and even messed around a little bit between themselves. I saw a couple of huge spitballs fly as well. Someone threw a shoe on the stage, Chris told everyone he didn't need someone elses old shit, thanks, and threw it back into the crowd. The show ended in a massive feedback session, with Chris just screaming into the mic for what seemed like ages, Ben threw his bass a couple of feet, reeled around, and stalked off the stage, and Kim had what looked like an incredible passionate encounter with his amp for at least five minutes. He then left his guitar sitting on top, lit a smoke & had a few puffs, and scraped the strings now and then with his beer bottle (I think it was beer, ok, I presume it was beer). The only song where Chris's voice faltered was during Pretty Noose, but this seems a common occasion with this song in particular, it was still really good though. Highlights? Outshined and Rusty Cage, they're two of my favourite songs anyway, but they really ripped them out, the sound was intense, and Chris was just on fire. Yes, the shirt came off, I guess it took about 3 songs, so all us girls were happy. Slaves and Bulldozers was just amazing, the broodiness and intensity of the trak was all there, but I suppose with even more fire than usual. I saw SG last time they were in Aust, both at the BDO and their club gig, and the club gig then was fantastic, but this was just simply incredible. The lights were simple but effective, the sound was really good and the acoustics of the superdome were greatly improved since I last saw a band there, which was in fact Iggy Pop in 1988. So now it's 12.30 am, I have a 6.00 wake up call tomorrow for work, my ears are ringing (it was really loud!), and I can hardly talk from screaming and singing. God life is good. georgia ------------------------------ From: Vince Varkey Subject: who do I kill? I read the MSN Soundgarden interview yesterday and some things struck me as being odd. First off, they were saying that DOTU has barely sold over 1 million records. I was under the impression that it had sold something like 2 million and was one of the highest sellers of the year. Can anyone clarify this? Also, they were talking about how A&M has apparently given up on DOTU. Did any of you get this feeling? I never did. Also, they were talking about the "uphill battle" SG has fought with DOTU regarding radio and tv. All I know is that SG is one of the most played bands here in Dallas. Some people think that SG are arguably getting *too* much radio and video exposure. The facts presented in the article just felt "off" to me. What do you all think? - -vincent ***************************************************************************** "You and me. What does that mean? Always. What does that mean? Forever? What does that mean? It means we'll manage..I'll master your language and in the meantime..I'll create my own." - Tricky ***************************************************************************** ------------------------------ From: KENNY BECKWITH <"beckwith@gte.net"@gte.net> Subject: Fresh Deadly Rarieties? SGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSG I read here on the Somms page something about Fresh Deadly Rarieties. What is this? And the only reason I am asking you all is because I haven't seen it on any discography. STILL looking for Loudest Love:) But I guess I must be Searching With My Good Eye Closed cause I can't find the thing:( (I know everyone is probley tired of me constantly posting about Loudest Love, but I figure if I keep mentioning it and then if someone sees it they'll hopefully think of me. And then they'll e-mail me and tell me where they saw it.) Thank You all for your understanding:) If this isn't what you see it doesn't make you blind.... LISA BECKWITH SGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSGSG ------------------------------ From: Trung Tran Subject: Re: Hi everybody. You know, seeing this shit below makes me wonder why *any* Soundgarden fan who happened to be a newbie would even want to join somms. Look, do us new folks ask a lot of questions? Yeah. Dumb questions? Yeah probably. But is that negativity described below really necessary? I mean, couldn't you have simply ignored the guy? Instead, that guy who you pseudo-flamed is probably feeling like shit when all he was trying to do was relay information, even though it was info that we all knew anyway. Is it too much to ask to be a little patient with us? If it is, then let me know. - -Trung Tran On Mon, 3 Feb 1997, caryn rose wrote: > yeah, and a newbie with a JUNO account at that. > > HELLO?? NEWBIES??? NEW PEOPLE ON THE NET???? > > there are over 700 of us on this list who have been here for a WHILE now, > who can quote you seth's web page address in our SLEEP, can quote you the > faq by heart, and who know more about how the internet works than you will > ever have the chance to FORGET. > > while it is of course completely out of line for me to suggest this, it is > considered good internet practice to familiarize yourself with the digests > of a mailing list before posting, or to wait a bit to get a feel for the > list before posting -- and certainly to WAIT before posting about BASIC > SOUNDGARDEN HISTORY WHICH WE ALL KNOW for your first post to the list. > > and since you obviously aren't getting the sarcasm -- PLEASE don't tell us > who Hiro is, we know, Taylor knows, Eliza knows, and if we DON'T know we can > go to seth's page, and/or ask people who know more about soundgarden than > you do -- all of whom, coincidentally, are on this list! > > --caryn > > "what does SOMMS stand for?" ------------------------------ From: Luck's Last Match Subject: 10 albums? Come together? too long? Well, if i had any choice in the matter, SG would make albums until they all die at an extremely old age of natural causes. 10 albums sounds good, hell i don't even have kids yet, but i can see my kids growing up with sg the same way artists who are popular now grew up with the beatles... And the Italian guy had a good point about BHS, but i would like to see the translation of that interview, as well as know what song was dropped from SU. Btw, italian guy, can i quote you on "Excuse me for being too long"? And Toni, you don't like Come Together? wow, that is such an unload song...i love every part of it. Of course, i heard SG's version before the original and i'm sure you heard them the other way around...old well. laters. -j "Mike, give me a bottle of vodka and a straw" -Luke Spencer, General Hospital ------------------------------ From: Ken Casey Subject: Moby remix The strangest thing happened yesterday.. My local radio station started playing the Moby remix of Dusty! Being htat Im not a person who has the money to buy singles.. it was the first time I'de heard it. Amazing thing was they debued it at 7:30, and by 10 it had made #10 on our countdown.. Is my radio station strange, or is everyone starting to play this? Next question. I heard from my friend who say on emptyvee news that they were GOING to release another vidoe, and she THOUGHT it was rhinosaur... but she COULD be wrong.. Anyway, she said it got banned befor it aired, because of content? Anyone want to verify that, or tell me I need better informants? =] Laurie ------------------------------ From: "mcinturff, dylan" Subject: songs that hooked me, etc... My love of Soundgarden has kind of been built up over time. The first thing that really hooked me was the ENTIRE Batmotorfinger album. I was especially taken by Slaves & Bulldozers and Face Pollution, but the whole album grabbed me like nothing before. I was into a lot of stuff like R.E.M. and the Beatles (still am) and also a lot of heavier stuff like Metallica and a lot of punk stuff like the Dead Kennedys and the Misfits. Soundgarden was the first band that did a good job of making the heavier stuff smarter and more melodic. ...Then came Superunknown, with even more of that Beatles feel, and weirder guitar sounds, and other stuff. And at first, BHS was really moving to me. It did lose something with its heavy MTV rotation, but the album was and is great and it made me change from a SG fan to SG being one of my top five bands. ...Then came DOTU, which is full of fantastic songwriting and sounds like I think an album should sound. Everything, from the drums to the bass to the Rhodes in Overfloater, sounds like it should. By this point, I had found this list and Seth's page, and SG had become my favorite band that is around today. It wasn't really one thing that did it, but rather an evolution of sorts. And everyone on this list is part of that. Dylan p.s. happy belated birthday to Steve. ------------------------------ From: Mandy Crook Subject: Catch up comments Hi guys, printed off last weeks digests and took them home to read last night........ hello! 140 pages, oops, there goes a couple of trees, sorry. Caroline and Justin, sensational reviews, these put my paltry effort to shame, you guys must have amazing memories, and how did you take notes? God I was too busy rocking out. Say Aleko did you go to the Sydney BDO? if you wanted shitty sound that was where you would have gotten it. Where I was in the Hordern the sound was pretty good. Mind you none of the gigs were truely loud enough for my liking. After reading my backlog I now know that the cover SG did at the Hordern was The Doors, now that I come to think of it Im pretty sure they did a Doors song three years ago at the BDO. Anyway thats enough of that. Thanks for the in depth reviews guys, Justin your life must be pretty good at the moment, as Chris said at the Hordern `Good on ya mate'. > >does anybody know of a really good soundgarden web page? or a really >good >band history? > >i really think there should be a soundgarden faq. maybe we should write >one? > >and does anyone here think that chris cornell is really sexy? i'm sure >i'm >the only one. > >--------- End forwarded message ---------- >I know two that I think are really good. >oneis the unofficial web page ( which I think is the best ) and the other >is the official web page. >http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/ >and >http://www.imusic.com/soundgarden/ > >or you can go to yahoo at www.yahoo.com and search soundgarden >yahoo? >search? >what's that? ______________________ I just had to comment on this, Caryn, you kill me, you are what they say here in Oz a `cak', are you sure your not Australian? people generally say that this kind of sarcasm is an oz thing.......... Oh one more thing a friend said she heard CC on Creatures of the Spotlight, JJJ, did anyone hear this? Cheers Mandy ------------------------------ From: "Steven Russell Jr." Subject: Re: www.unfURLed.com > Well, I guess it's official. We won. :) Congratulations Seth! You deserve the pub!!!!! This calls for a celebration! Cheeseburger's and Cokes on the unfURLed people! ;-) Uh huh... steve - - stylin' in his plum cons... ------------------------------ From: Mercyhurst Prep Library Subject: Re: SG Anagrams... That is way too cool! We could use it for secret code or something! en sund groda...thanks for sharing that w/ us! :))))))))) At 12:37 PM 2/4/97 +0100, you wrote: > >I've got a new anagram on soundgarden for you: > >"En sund groda" > >WHAT? >Well, that's swedish for "A healthy frog" :) > >/martin. (btw, please don't hate me...) > ------------------------------ From: Mercyhurst Prep Library Subject: Re: Hi everybody. I've said it before and I'll say it again--this list should welcome new listers instead of berating them, flaming them or making fun of them. It won't take long for this list to get a bad rep (and a bad rap) for being unkind to newbies, word'll spread and it'll die off. Don't have to take my word for it, just read what T.T. said, first sentence. > > >At 11:12 AM 2/4/97 -0600, you wrote: >> >>You know, seeing this shit below makes me wonder why *any* Soundgarden fan >>who happened to be a newbie would even want to join somms. Look, do us new >>folks ask a lot of questions? Yeah. Dumb questions? Yeah probably. But is >>that negativity described below really necessary? I mean, couldn't you >>have simply ignored the guy? Instead, that guy who you pseudo-flamed is >>probably feeling like shit when all he was trying to do was relay >>information, even though it was info that we all knew anyway. Is it too >>much to ask to be a little patient with us? If it is, then let me know. >> >>-Trung Tran >> >> >>On Mon, 3 Feb 1997, caryn rose wrote: >> >> > yeah, and a newbie with a JUNO account at that. >>> >>> HELLO?? NEWBIES??? NEW PEOPLE ON THE NET???? >> > ------------------------------ From: Caryn Rose Subject: Re: BHS dedication? On Tue, 4 Feb 1997, Katie E Williams wrote: > hope this opportunity comes up again sometime.. One more question (sorry > I'm bringing up subjects you guys have probably already talked about a > thousand times..) but.. I read the stuff about the Seattle concert here > last month too.. did some of you get to meet Soundgarden again? or what > exactly is an aftershow pass? (never been priviledged to have anything > close to any kind of special pass...) =) I promise to shut up about > old news after this.. an aftershow pass is a pass that entitles you to go to a hospitality-type room after the show, hence the name ;-) no, we didn't get to meet soundgarden again. - --caryn ------------------------------ From: Caryn Rose Subject: Re: Hi everybody. On Tue, 4 Feb 1997, Trung Tran wrote: > > You know, seeing this shit below makes me wonder why *any* Soundgarden fan > who happened to be a newbie would even want to join somms. Look, do us new > folks ask a lot of questions? Yeah. Dumb questions? Yeah probably. But is > that negativity described below really necessary? I mean, couldn't you > have simply ignored the guy? Instead, that guy who you pseudo-flamed is > probably feeling like shit when all he was trying to do was relay > information, even though it was info that we all knew anyway. Is it too > much to ask to be a little patient with us? If it is, then let me know. yes, it is. we WERE patient. if we weren't patient we'd have flamed him the first time he posted -- instead we tried to make a joke out of it, hoping that he would gently get our point. he didn't. as seth has often said, it's good advice for any mailing list you join, go check out the archives before posting, and wait a week or so to get a feel for the list. i've been on the neil young list for over two years and only felt comfortable to post *now*, for example. it's a tightly-knit community full of people who will know more about neil young than i could ever imagine. i respected that by hanging back until i felt i really had something to contribute. it's just responsible mailing list behavior that we're trying to foster here... is that too much to ask? if so, let me know. - --caryn ------------------------------ From: Slave4cc@aol.com Subject: drifting in and out... Slave4cc is drifting in and out of reality....Fantasy #2 (sorry. dont mind me..) Its in a time far away. After walking west for several days, I finally arrive at a beautiful castle by the warm western sea. My feet are bleeding..my clothes are rags. I am almost dead from starvation. It is known that 4 wise, magical, kings live in this castle, and just the touch of their hand, or an uttered word from their mouth, could give a person eternal bliss. I look up at the enormous castle, with its large wooden gates. The gates are protected by a keeper. The keeper is a hideous monster, so powerful, so evil no one can ever get though. His name is.....FAME! I wonder how I am going to get past this Fame monster to meet the beloved kings? So, I start throwing rocks and sticks high up over the walls, hoping that one of the kings will take notice and let me in!! But they dont ever see the rocks or sticks....they never even knew I was there at all. I lean againt the gate and cry. *sigh* Then I stagger into town and find a pub and drown my sorrows in a flask of ale. The end.=) What I fast forward through: Never Named, Kickstand, and Half. I think Kickstand is Soundgarden making fun of Aerosmith. I enjoy b sides and the "rest" of the album more than the "hit" songs, so BHS or Burden cannot be my favorites. Favorites: Hands all Over, Limo Wreck, 4th of July, Like Suicide, Mind Riot, Searching wmgec, JCP, of course Slaves & Bulldozers, She Likes Suprises, lots more. Never heard: Flutter girl, Helter Skelter, but really want to. Im searching for: colored vinyl. I know your all sick of hearing it so maybe one of you will take pity and sell me one so I will shut up. No staring at the clouds, I must stay on the ground. Carol ------------------------------ From: DAVID DEBOLT Subject: the last time MTV showed something good First Soundgarden moment: I remember it very clearly, but i don't remember when it was. 1991 or 1992 maybe?? For some strange reason, MTV was airing some Guns n Roses concert in France. There seemed to be millions of fans in the crowd. MTV was showing the opening act of the show, who happened to be (the basically unknown) Soundgarden. I only caught their last song, but was totally blown away. They ended that show with "Jesus Christ Pose". I was amazed by the power of the singer and how much energy he put into singing that song. The song just ripped, i could't beleive it! At the end, Chris Cornell grabs the mic stand and places it under his arms and stands in his "Jesus Christ Pose", and with his long hair, it really looked like Jesus. I was just standing there in shocked at how powerfull that song was and i have been a fan ever since. Looking back, that was probably the last time MTV played anything worth watching. Late- David ------------------------------ From: Caryn Rose Subject: Re: Hi everybody. On Tue, 4 Feb 1997, Mercyhurst Prep Library wrote: > > I've said it before and I'll say it again--this list should welcome new > listers instead of berating them, flaming them or making fun of them. It > won't take long for this list to get a bad rep (and a bad rap) for being > unkind to newbies, word'll spread and it'll die off. Don't have to take my > word for it, just read what T.T. said, first sentence. this list is not unkind to newbies. this list is very welcoming to newbies who show some semblance of wanting to be part of the list. newbie does not automatically equal stupid. this list loves new people who have something to contribute and we've had lots of new listers who have contributed a whole hell of a lot lately. i didn't flame the person who asked if sg had any other albums besides 'superunknown' -- i wrote back and told them yes,they did, and gave them the url of seth's page to go get more info and that if they didn't have web access i would send them more info. someone else, however, DID flame them. whatever. if you want to see hunddreds of posts about bush and silverchair and nirvana on this list, then fine, don't say anything to anyone ever, and THEN this list will die. if this list dies it's because too many people unsub because of stupid mail or ten zillion unsub requests or flame wars over nirvana -- NOT because we flamed someone who got more than a fighting chance to not look stupid... - --caryn ------------------------------ From: Lynne Low Subject: New people to the list. >Date: Tue, 04 Feb 1997 14:46:05 >To: Trung Tran >From: Lynne Lowe >Subject: New people to the list. > >Hey Everybody, what's going on??? > >I agreed with what Trung said. If I were brand new to the list I would be completely turned off by the comments by some of the old timers. Come on, give them a break. They can't help it if they aren't "experts" like you. I'm getting sick of some of the snotty remarks lately. What's wrong with asking questions? How else do you learn? Sure, they can go to the various web sites to get some answers. There has got to be a more positive/nicer way to talk to others. > >Peace, >Lynne > >At 11:12 AM 2/4/97 -0600, Trung Tran wrote: > >>You know, seeing this shit below makes me wonder why *any* Soundgarden fan >>who happened to be a newbie would even want to join somms. Look, do us new >>folks ask a lot of questions? Yeah. Dumb questions? Yeah probably. But is >>that negativity described below really necessary? I mean, couldn't you >>have simply ignored the guy? Instead, that guy who you pseudo-flamed is >>probably feeling like shit when all he was trying to do was relay >>information, even though it was info that we all knew anyway. Is it too >>much to ask to be a little patient with us? If it is, then let me know. > > > ------------------------------ From: endless_nameless@prodigy.com (GRRL NIKI FREER) Subject: and i think i like it... SOMMSters extrodinare::: first- congrats sethmiester! glad my vote did something good for once... second- finally had my BUTOW green vinyl taped for me, and i am *in love* with the Dusty Remix!! i had my walkman at school with me and must have listened to that song once each period, twice in homeroom. = ) i know you all care just *so* much but this song is way special. There's something beautiful and magic about the opening humming of chris's smooth voice and the low-key plunking of the bass slides right on in. it's just a really good good job done by Moby (who's work was perviously unknown to me). and he's in SPIN this month, and spoke of the remix for SG he did: "...Like Billy Corgan owes me a mix of one of my songs; so do Soundgarden. When the guys from Soundgarden asked me to do a mix for them, I sent them three, and I was talking to Chris [Cornell] and Kim [Thayil], and they didn't understand that they owned them. they said, "we really like the mixes you did for us. What are yougoing to do with them?" ANd I said, "Well, they're yours." And they're like, "What do you mean? You made them." I was like, "No. It's your song. I just remixed it." And they said, "But it doesn't sound anything like the original." ..." = ) mind riot "i think it's coming on the wind..." ____ and if i'm condemned let me rest on my pillow and dream of those moments so few and if i'm blessed i'll be chasing your shadow there i go...nowhere... nowhere but you... ------------------------------ From: Deborah Baker Subject: Re: Rockin' till age 40 A different Seth wrote: A lot of old fans complained when DOTU came out because it was so different. >Many of us said that we preferred a style akin to Badmotorfinger. This >really got me thinking, however. Consider how much you like BMF for exactly >what it is. If Soundgarden made DOTU into BMF number 2, then what good are >either of those albums? The way SG's music is progressing, every album has >it's own meanings, and most importantly, it's own memories. Here, here Seth! In one of the first Soundgarden interviews I ever read , Chris was asked if he thought Soundgarden fans were ready for a song like 'Half'. His answer was something along the lines of (forgive me, b/c the interview was in French!)... The fan who buys all our albums doesn't want buy five albums all the same. He (!!!) wants something new, and rightly so. If some of them loved Badmotorfinger and they hate Superunknown, they can just go back to listening to Badmotorfinger! Because as long as they want to do that, it's always there - it's not going to disappear into thin air! Sounds pretty sensible advice to me :-) UKDeb ------------------------------ From: eliza Subject: first i smelled it in my car... I finally read Candy's hysterical post - i officially vote this as *the* Best First SG experience story of the year!!!! Candy - you shudda told the guys this story in Chicago - talk about getting a good laugh! At 10:47 PM 2/1/97 -0600, Candy wrote: >I found LTL at the record store and, on a whim (maybe it >was fate), I bought it. When I got in the car, I put it in my cassette >deck to listen to on the drive home. I had my puppy with me in the car >and suddenly I smelled something really bad. I thought the dog had done >a doo doo in my lap. Fortunately it turned out to only be a gas attack, >but before I figured that out, I panicked and swerved, hitting the >neighbor's mail box and knocking it off into the ditch. I finally got >home, thinking "Well, I wasn't very impressed with Soundgarden." **************************************** I walk these streets alone, shadows hide my face My sins are etched in stone, never to erase My fears unshakeable, if I could believe I'd trade these wings of gold, for what I really need - --CC ------------------------------ From: Vince Varkey Subject: Re: www.unfURLed.com seth wrote: > Well, I guess it's official. We won. :) Seth, congratulations man. You totally deserve this. I, and about 700 other Soundgarden fans, are proud as hell of you. What you have created has become bigger than anyone ever dreamed. I am glad I am here to experience it. What can I say..you are the *man*. Congratulations Seth : ) - -vince ------------------------------ From: "Lane, Karen" Subject: too old Andri wrote: >>i gotta queation for u guys...how long do u think SG will last.. i they arent >>teenagers anymore..do u think they will stay rockin till the age 40?? This is from the Request 94 interview. Thought it kind of pertained to the question: A lot of those bands from the '70s still walk the earth. Is that a good thing for music? It can be. It's inspiring to me to see somebody like Neil Young or Johnny Cash doing what they're doing right now. They're of two different generations, but there are stages to their careers and they've both persevered in a way that is totally valid and inspired. Being a musician, it gives me the feeling that, you know, I don't have to be David Lee Roth. I can be somebody who makes music that is real for as long as I can breathe. Karen ------------------------------ Subject: Re: another -iest thread... From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) > mind riot wrote: > what do you guys think is the *funniest* or silliest song SG has >ever managed to come up with? My pick for funniest or silliest song would be "Kickstand". When ever I hear it just feel they are making fun of certain games we humans play.. Jamie (Village Idiot/SOMMs Mom) ------------------------------ From: Taylor Holmes Subject: Next album... SG's future I don't know about you folks, but I kind of ready for a new SG album... As of late, I've kind of gotten out of the SG groove and have been searching for new music to satisfy my need for progressive music. Sadly enough, I've noticed that there is not much on the horizon of Rock music that really strikes me as special (with the exception of Aenima). DOTU satisfied my need for only a short time and seemed to lack that 'edge' that keeps me interested... so I've been really listening to a lot of UMOK and LTL lately. I'm not much into this hip hop/techno meets rock fusion trend and I'm not really into the industrial NIN clones. I want something new that will strike me how Badmotorfinger or SU did when I first heard them. I was pleased with DOTU, but there's something different in DOTU that has not kept my interest like the other albums. I really hope SG put together a new album that really is experimental and progressive. I think that SG has opened up a whole new realm to their music through self production. I'd really like to see SG take advantage of both their musical talents *and* their production talents to travel down new avenues on their next album. Personally, I'd like to see SG really move more into the pshychadelic/gothic realm a la Blind Dogs, Boot Camp, Nowhere But You. I can see them pursuing this avenue more than reverting back to the UMOK sound... I think it's time to scrap the 'raw' sound and begin to maximize the use of production technology... Later, Taylor - -"Does anyone know where I can get information on Soundgarden such as articles, etc?" - -- D. Taylor Holmes Senior Quality Assurance Analyst, Automated Test Coordinator Datastream Systems Software, Inc. home: holmest@netdepot.com work: holmest@dstm.com ------------------------------ From: tonerkin Subject: Hi Everyone...go out and buy DOTU! At 10:52 AM 2/4/97 -0600, Vincent wrote: > > Also, they were talking about how A&M has apparently given >up on DOTU. Did any of you get this feeling? I never did. Also, they were >talking about the "uphill battle" SG has fought with DOTU regarding >radio and tv. I don't feel A&M gave up on DOTU. I have heard Rhinosaur on the radio several times in the last few days...new single??? I have also been to three different record stores this past week and DOTU was still displayed in a prominent position. Carolyn wrote: >Don't be afraid, Trung Tran and anyone else out there! We aren't ALL >flamers on this list, you know!! Three cheers for Carolyn the most friendly! Caryn wrote: >if this list dies it's because too many people >unsub because of stupid mail or ten zillion unsub requests or flame wars. If the list dies can we resurrect it and not tell Caryn? ------------------------------ From: Caryn Rose Subject: Re: who do I kill? On Tue, 4 Feb 1997, Vince Varkey wrote: > > I read the MSN Soundgarden interview yesterday and some things struck me > as being odd. First off, they were saying that DOTU has barely sold over > 1 million records. I was under the impression that it had sold something > like 2 million and was one of the highest sellers of the year. Can anyone > clarify this? i tried to verify this one but can't get to the websites that would help. maybe someone else can have better luck than i have... > Also, they were talking about how A&M has apparently given > up on DOTU. Did any of you get this feeling? I never did. absolutely. i even talked about this about a week ago. I think they gave up after "Pretty Noose", even though BiMH was way successful -- they might have stopped snoozing for a bit when they gained some momentum, but it was really clear to me that they had given up. > Also, they were > talking about the "uphill battle" SG has fought with DOTU regarding > radio and tv. All I know is that SG is one of the most played bands here > in Dallas. some regional markets will play a lot of a certain band for whatever reason. All I know is that I hear a lot of other bands much more than I hear Soundgarden -- they are too light for most hard rock formats (i know, hard to imagine, isn't it) and too heavy for most alternative or AAA formats. you can't just throw in JCP after, say, a wheezer song. (okay, you COULD, but not in the radio programming of the 1990's). some bands are just radio-friendly. some records are just radio-friendly. DoTU is not radio-friendly, soundgarden is not overall radio-friendly (with the exception of BHS and to a lesser extent FoBD). I'm talking about songs that fit easily to a rigorously determined radio format, nothing to do with taste or affection or anything else. >Some people think that SG are arguably getting *too* much radio and > video exposure. The facts presented in the article just felt "off" to me. > > What do you all think? i thought it was one of the best articles/interviews i have read this year. the questions were thought-provoking, the answers were also thoughtful, and to hear some of kim's improvs was just dynamite to me! just my opinion... ------------------------------ From: u1002740@host.MIT.EDU (Jeffrey Mlinscek) Subject: songs we hate >So what song are you sort of sick of by SG? What song, if any, do you >fast >forward over when listening to an album? Well, I'm not sick of any of the songs that I like, but there are SOUNDGARDEN songs that I just dont like. I dont like Little Joe(I cant stand the vocals), Fopp and Fopp(Dub)(Ohio Players!! Nuff said.), and Big Dumb Sex. You dont get nothin' for free. ----Full On Kevin's Mom--- Sean ------------------------------ From: Caryn Rose Subject: Re: Hi Everyone...go out and buy DOTU! On Tue, 4 Feb 1997, tonerkin wrote: > Caryn wrote: > >if this list dies it's because too many people > >unsub because of stupid mail or ten zillion unsub requests or flame wars. > If the list dies can we resurrect it and not tell Caryn? if the list dies i'd probably be the only one technically capable and willing to run a new one. and unlike your list, anyone on somms, present and future, would be welcome on any soundgarden list i started (with the possible exception of michael apple), as long as they were a soundgarden fan. period. - --caryn ------------------------------ From: Caryn Rose Subject: clarification/apology there are lots of technically capable folks on the list (read: geeks) who certainly could run a mailing list. i'm hardly the only one, but on the other hand, i was the one who tried to raise enough $$ to buy seth a copy of listserv for his birthday last year (didn't see anyone else doing that) and when the list was down, i went out and found seth a couple of viable alternatives in case we had to move -- i didn't see anyone else doing that either, but it could have very well been done in private email and i was unaware. apologies to the geeks -- no insult intended on a technical stance. - --caryn ------------------------------ From: Carolyn Hanel Subject: RE: Seth's love of JCP On the very day I last saw Soundgarden (31 Jan), Seth wrote: >>After my first listen to Badmotorfinger in 1992..... ......the song that reached out and throttled me was Jesus Christ Pose. It was then that I began my search for the rest of SG's material and began a fanship that led eventually to the website idea in February 1994 and then the mailing list in July 1995, etc. That song still gets better with each and every listen. It was *explosive* in Chicago. Yo, Seth - it was also *Explosive* in Melbourne, and, unbelievably (I = didn't think they could ever top Melbourne), even *MORE EXPLOSIVE* in = Adelaide at the BDO, the very day you wrote the above!! Man, they were = AWESOME then (stay tuned for details in my next review). Interesting = that Justin should comment on how bland they were at the BDO in Brisbane = (I read your reviews today, BD, and they were EXCELLENT, thank you so = much - got my heart beating faster because now that I know what it's = like to see Soundgarden live I could REALLY relive it all with you), = because they were FAR from bland at Adelaide's BDO. Maybe because in = Adelaide they didn't do any other concert? So they knew their fans = there (other than the lucky ones like Hando and me who had been to see = them in Melbourne five days earlier) had only that one chance to see = them?? Hell, I use a lot of brackets, don't I? Hope you can follow my tumbling = thoughts here, folks! :-) I am looking forward to writing up my review - sorry, it's not done yet. = But when it's complete, hopefully it will give many of you Sommsters = the same feelings I get when I read other Sommsters reviews........ Carolyn the Melting (over 40 degrees Celcius here AGAIN today - have = things cooled down for you yet, Georgia?) Flop But if I crashed into Uranus I would stick it where the sun don't = shine.......The Bloodhound Gang ------------------------------ From: Candy Subject: Re: first i smelled it in my car... > I finally read Candy's hysterical post - i officially vote this as *the= * > Best First SG experience story of the year!!!! Candy - you shudda told = the > guys this story in Chicago - talk about getting a good laugh! Thanks, Elixa. I wish I had told the guys that story except I was frozen with fear and could barely croak my name. I=92m sure they would get a kick out of knowing their music, not only gave my dog gas, but caused me to demolish the neighbor=92s mailbox--I actually decapitated the damn thing! BUTT, miraculously, there was no damage to my vehicle. Proof positive that the Soundgarden gods really do exist!!! Wow! Best fan-produced (and most disturbingly comprehensive) site--The Unofficial Soundgarden Homepage! Yes!!! Candy ------------------------------ From: "Spoonman, Lord of Rust & Metal" Subject: Why hate ANY song? Hey... my first post to SOMMS... I feel so warm and fuzzy ^_^ Why do you people hate BHS or Spoonman or what not 'cause they're played a lot on TV and radio? They're great in their own right. Or don't watch TV or listen to the radio. I don't. And I'm fine. Really... Well, I watch The Simpsons... ^_^ Later, SAINT OF KILLERS ...um, Scott ------------------------------ From: Greg Fox Subject: Re: Pigeon Head I got this off the Alice in Chains list, and I was wondering if there is anything about this in the FAQ. I hate to post this question, but I don't have web access here at home. Anyone have any info for me about Pigeon Head?? Pleez, pleez?? Greg > +A friend of mine who works at a local record shop said that there's going > +to be a CD coming out called Pigeon Head and apparently Jerry plays on > +some tracks. Has anyone heard anything about it? He says it includes > +members of Brad and Satchel, and should be out around Wednesday or > +Thursday... > > Actually, I heard the Pigeonhed album b/c I work for the music staff of my > radio station (I reviewed it) the disk kicks ass! Jerry is phenomenal too, > along with Kim Thayil and Matt Chamberlain...and Satchel's voice is great. > Some of it is really mellow, and some of it is reallly funky. =-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-= |That damn polyphasic frog |Beliefs are Dangerous | | rototillered my beets again! |Beliefs allow the mind to stop functioning.| +-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-|A non-functioning mind is clinically dead. / |gfox@uvic.ca |Believe in nothing ... / |http://gulf.uvic.ca/~gfox \ -Tool from insert to Aenime / |http://www.islandnet.com/~combine\ / =-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-/ ------------------------------ From: "merlin.dwc@internetmci.com" Subject: That Special SG Song (cont'd) Wow... so many great threads. Well, last time I posted, it was about how BHS was *the* song for me. I want to elaborate. BHS became one of my favorite songs before I even owned a SG album. I'd only heard it a few times, and hadn't had a chance to think about the meaning of the lyrics yet, though they had begun to intrigue me. It was the music, the way CC sings, that made me love it. But then after I bought Superunknown I really began to analyze the meaning of the words. I guess this sorta ties in to the "most powerful lyrics" thread. I know that CC has often said that BHS has no meaning, and maybe it doesn't - to him. I have no way of knowing. But to me they do make sense, and they're very personal. I have a lot of different interpretations of what it's actually about, or not about - it could just be many different feelings strung together. That was what I first thought, because usually when I first hear a song I like I think about how it relates to me or my life. (Gosh, I hope this is making sense.) BHS has some of the most beautiful, and meaningful (to me) lyrics I've ever heard. Particularly "And my youth I pray to keep." That one line means so many different things for me, and it a way it's so simple, but it's also so deep. Well, I'd better stop. Sorry such a long post. To be continued... ~Lorraine "nothing seems to break me no matter how far I fall nothing can break me at all" ------------------------------ From: Rebekah Henderson Subject: Desirable bootlegs. Can anybody tell me where I can buy Ultramega Unknown, Fresh Deadly Rarities, Stolen Prayers, and Supermainstream???????????????? May Soundgarden be with you. Rebekah ------------------------------ From: Redodin@aol.com Subject: Cut the thread!!! Refering to all the hype on "Newbies". I personally am into this list,but I do not enjoy or appreciate reading mail with people blowing smoke and talking wind. "Damn the water if it's life!" In all, the band should be the topic not seniority.I am one who learns from questions and answers,but finds it hard to pay attention to teachers that won't teach. Therefore let us all find find common ground and learn from everything. Best song: Though I will change my mind at every new listening,I find,(again) Drawing Flies to be one of their most creative Funniest? I can't hear any other song being more comical than Never Named. As serious as it just may be,it is a very childish song with donkey snorts and all. Worst: In my opinion is Blow up the outside world. It is boring.Although I agree with Sean bout Little Joe.W Best album? Superunknown is without a doubt the bands greatest sounding recorded wise,but BMF is so original and unique it wins my vote. Sexiest: Never thought about that one! To me confidence and originality is quite sexy and every album posess' these qualities.As does their songs. Overall they ARE the best fucking band alive!!! NO COMPARISON. - -- I'm just a baby that looks like a boy. ------------------------------ From: Warewolf from Soundalot Subject: BUTOW single I just got a hold of the BUTOW single and it came with a really cool poster of the guys. My only question is. Why does the cover have the tomato with the worm coming out of it, and then on the reverse side has a lot of worms on a tomato? If any of my somms compadres in So Cal can tell me where to pick up some good SG posters, than toss an e-mail my way. Thanx Ryan "There's no all powerful force controling my destiny, it all a bunch of tricks and nonsense." -Han Solo ------------------------------ From: AJCorsi@aol.com Subject: To newcomer Kevin w/ all the info. WARNING- LONG POST!! Kevin, Sweetie, since you know so much about the unofficial website, maybe you should check out the archives of this mailing list. That might help you on here. I'm telling you this b/c, I am recently new also, and you don't want to get knocked anymore than you are now. What I'm saying is, all this "blessedly new" info you are supplying us unknowing SOMMSters with is, well, how should I put it, OLD NEWS!! This is not a mean post! I'm just trying to help you out a little. Things like how the band was named, how they started, met, etc, and who were their various bassists are stuff we've known for quite awhile. Also, most of us found out about this mailing list ON Seth's website, so we already know about it. As I found out very fast, the people on this site know what they're talking about and mean business; they HONESTLY don't need any help from you. I found out, if you have a common question, go to Seth's website, and if you can't find it anywhere, then ask the mailing list, *politely*, and explain that you're new and can't find it anywhere. The best thing to do when you first join is sit back for a couple of issues and read. Then if you find a question you think you can answer or you want to add to a thread, go ahead. The worst thing you could do is bust in here and tell SG experts (well, that's what they are) simple facts about the band, that's like a HUGE insult. Everything I wrote was meant to help you, not to insult you. If you're upset with me for writing this to you, email me privately. Don't post it, it's no one else's problem. Now for some SG content (sorry Seth)- I was away for a week, so I just caught up with my mail. But I wanted to tell whoever (I forgot) had the idea for the shirt w/ Chris and the words, "Loud Love" that I would buy that shirt in a pinch!! My love affair w/ SG has been a slow, but whirlwindish (word?) process. If I remember correctly, the first song I heard was BHS. But, it had started to get old by then, so the dj never announced the name, etc. anymore. I was dying to know who it was by, it was constantly in my head. Then some time elapsed. I kept hearing TDITTL like once a week, and it drove me nuts trying to figure out who it was. After awhile I tied the two songs together (my radio station was brand new at the time and very slow) and since it was my birthday in a few weeks, I mentioned it to my friend. Well, the day of my birthday(I had a surprise party!!), I popped SU in w/ everyone there. Holy crap! I was blown away. Of course, 'cause my friends at the time were pricks, they only wanted to hear one song, then turn it off. But, after that day this cd got so much use, it never came out of my cd player. Then DOTU came out, I got it the day it came out, and for the second time was blown away. But, I still wasn't my now obsessed self. (By the way, at this time, I still hadn't seen what the band looked like) Then, my radio station played SG: Spin session w/ the interview by Eleven. I taped it, this is where my obsession starts. I had never heard so many amazing songs, and the guys in the band were so cool. I ran out and bought BMF, and opened the cd case, just to be hit by a WHAMMY!! I had discovered Chris Cornell(insert angels singing here). Well, SOMMSters, from there it's all history. Even though I haven't seen them live yet, it's gonna happen, at least before I die. I'll be eighty-three in the handicapped mosh section hitting people over the head with my walker, just to get to the front of the stage!! Oh, and the song that grabbed a hold of my jugular and whirled me around by it was JCP. I can feel chills going up my spine just thinking about it. It was BHS that got me started, and it was JCP that got me CRAZED. And just to make this an even more incredibly long post, here's a little anecdote about BHS and my hearing problems. When I first got SU, I used to almost destroy my speakers by blasting it. Well, every time it came to the end and Kim was going nuts on guitar (yeah!) and the pitch is really high on one particular note. Well, smart me hears this, quickly puts the song on pause, and runs over to pick up the telephone. Yeah, I know, I'm pretty quick. The only problem is that I did this continually for a month at least; I just kept forgetting what it really was. I never said I was Einstein. Thanks to anyone who bothered to even finish reading this looooooooooooong post. You have mucho patience. I know what to do I'm gonna f**k f**k f**k f**k you, f**k you I'm the beast and you're the master You're the meat of the matter I'm no fool for discretion When it's on the tip of my tongue Is it to the sky...? (love this song!) -C.Cornell Hee, hee, hee, just trying to make this post even looooooooooonger, and I'm probably gonna get in trouble for it. love and 'aren't your eyes tired, YET?!?', lissa =) =) =) all SG fans are cool! Even clueless ones like me! ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: Re: Pigeon Head At 05:49 PM 2/4/97 PST, Greg Fox wrote: > >I got this off the Alice in Chains list, and I was wondering if there is >anything about this in the FAQ. I hate to post this question, but I don't >have web access here at home. Anyone have any info for me about Pigeon >Head?? >Pleez, pleez?? pigeonhed have a new album out on sub pop, it's sean smith from brad and satchel on vocals, steve fisk is in it too, jerry cantrell plays guitar this time, kim did last time and he's on there again. i keep meaning to buy it every time i walk by the sub pop store but then i remember the large stack of audio tapes i have yet to listen to/dub so i hold back. the poster for the album is cool. they also have a track on the hype! cd, and there's more info about them on seth's (award-winning ;-)) page at http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/releases/pigeonhed.html i really like the song on the hype! cd, but i haven't heard the first one or the latest one, BUT there are those on here who have so could they please give more info? - --c. ------------------------------ From: FrkShow911@aol.com Subject: Re: www.unfURLed.com Seth, Seth, Seth....congratulations!!! You truly are a devoted fan if not THE most loyal. You deserve every bit of that award...wait a second...is there some kind of prize by the way?? A gargantuan wedge of cheese.....to be later molded into a bust of yourself?? Who knows!! Anyway I'd personally like to thank you for providing such an elaborate shrine for worship and a vast wealth of Soundgarden info that still manages to quench my thirst for knowledge every time I tap in. Thanks again, Al ------------------------------ From: Carolyn Hanel Subject: RE: is it too much to ask? I say yes, it is! Caryn Rose wrote: >>as seth has often said, it's good advice for any mailing list you = join, go check out the archives before posting, and wait a week or so to get a = feel for the list. i've been on the neil young list for over two years and only felt comfortable to post *now*, for example. it's a tightly-knit community full of people who will know more about neil young than i = could ever imagine. i respected that by hanging back until i felt i really = had something to contribute. it's just responsible mailing list behavior = that we're trying to foster here... >>is that too much to ask? if so, let me know. I say it IS too much that Caryn asked. I know she mentioned waiting a = week or so, but honestly, from one week of digests all people may get = the hang of is the endless "do not unsub to the list" sarcasm, or = "mailing list etiquette goes like this" posts! So should we have to = wait up to TWO YEARS before we post to this list? That unless we have = something to "contribute" like things the list members perhaps don't = already know, things that aren't on Seth's web page, then we should just = shut up and watch a few people post to this list? =20 Surely THAT would make the list die. A mailing list ISN'T just a forum = to learn information - that's what the web page is for. This list is = for people to interact, communicate, yes - including asking questions, = share experiences, HAVE FUN, for pete's sake! Responsible mailing list = behaviour can only go so far - a real community of Soundgarden lovers = shouldn't HAVE to hang back and wait X amount of time before they feel = "worthy" enough to contribute.=20 Don't be afraid, Trung Tran and anyone else out there! We aren't ALL = flamers on this list, you know!! ;-) Carolyn the Mighty Frenzied You won't see a thing with your head up your arse........Bionic ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 3 Issue 31] ***************************************