From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Saturday, 1 Feb 1997 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Sun, 02 Feb 1997 02:18:31 EST Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Saturday, 1 Feb 1997 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: Re: new thread (not another band)/t-shirt/song "hooks" A.C.O.+S.G.=BUTOW Re: Ty Cobb T-Shirt SG Shock Re: Bleed Together i await *the* song Thighter&Tighter in Guitar when I realized... Re: None 1st song :) Skin Yard / Toy Box now you know why i've been shaking... no it's not too late... CC Interview Special songg.. Re: Special songg.. oh my GAWD Soundgarden in the classroom Re: MSN Interview the song that DID it Re: Special songg.. Sorry.. Re: Special songg.. boogada boogada Brian Liesegang's opinion A review of Hype! ------------------------------------------------------------ Subject: Re: new thread (not another band)/t-shirt/song "hooks" From: kalyssa@juno.com (Katie E Williams) On Thu, 30 Jan 1997 12:58:05 -0500 DONALD HOLROYD >MAN, I am soooooo envious, I saw the shirt in a Backstage Pass store a >couple of years ago...didn't have the $$$, but I LOVE the picture on >the >front. (it's the one from the CD booklet - the stairway in outer >space, >the page with the lyrics for the title track)...hey Seth (or anybody) >you got a scan of that pic? I wanna wallpaper it on my windows >desktop. actually.. I have the picture for my wallpaper.. I got it from somebody's page.. I'm not sure who's.. it's from the one that is listed first on the ultimate band list.. it's in the cd cover section.. I think the superunknown single cd.. I'm not sure.. check around.. I edited it to take out the words covering the picture.. it looks really cool and will remain on my screen forever.... =) ~Katie ------------------------------ From: Moonsta693@aol.com Subject: A.C.O.+S.G.=BUTOW Ok, excuse me for being a little slow, but I needed to adress this. I just watched A Clockwork Orange, and I found a lot of similarities between that and Blow Up the outside World. Not only the video, but the song itself. think about the words, about the movie, and you'll see. I actually suggest seeing it again with the song in mind. (hey, it was an awesome movie) wish me good luck on singin Reach Down...next up...Seasons! Chris' mental twin, and "Foo's" younger vintage sister, The original pretty noose (the outkast) ------------------------------ From: Subject: Re: Ty Cobb T-Shirt At 14:13 29/01/97 PST, you wrote: >Since Ty Cobb is most likely the next single, I think they should make a=20 >t-shirt for it (kind of like they did for BHS). Anyway on the front it= could=20 >have a baseball player in one of those old-fashioned uniforms doing a=20 >kamikaze-like head first slide into home plate and running over the= catcher. =20 >Underneath it would just say SOUNDGARDEN and on the back it could say= "hard-=20 >headed fuck you all". That would be cool. Actually this might be a good= =20 >idea for a thread. If you could design a SG t-shirt depicting a song, what= =20 >song would it be and what would the shirt look like? > >Later, >Scott This is the 1st. time I write to the e-mail list. I liked the suggestion from Scott about what song would anyone choose to make a T-Shirt and what whould you show on it. I specially enjoy the song 'Never The Machine Forever' and my T-Shirt would be an image of Kim, Ben, Matt & Chris as if they were made of shiny blue metal and a lot of coloured wires going from one head to the= others. Keep on Rockin' ---------------------------------- =B7 M* =B7 =20 =20 My blood is your water, Your smile is my sun. =20 stikfing@strogoff.adi.uam.es =20 http://www3.adi.uam.es/~stikfing=20 ---------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Subject: SG Shock >What song of Soundgarden's, upon hearing it, made you realize that SG=20 >was not just "another" band and that they were something special?=20 I Specially enjoyed Spoonman and it really weird rhythm. I mean it's not the classical rock rhythm rhat you just can follow it, it really hooks you and makes you MOVE. Beside, that son has got one of the most powerful guitar riffs I've ever heard, and the voice on top of that is just= delicious.=20 BUT, the first song I heard from soundgarden was new damage, a LIVE version from an album that Greenpeace recorded few years ago called 'Alternative NRG' in which Brian May (One of the guitar players I admire most!) was playin with soundgarden and his solo on top of Kim's rhythm guitar made me go WOW! those two are great!. Hope you all heard the album I'm talking about because I also discovered another of my favourite bands in it, I'm talking about L7. ---------------------------------- =B7 M* =B7 =20 =20 My blood is your water, Your smile is my sun. =20 stikfing@strogoff.adi.uam.es =20 http://www3.adi.uam.es/~stikfing=20 ---------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: "Al Babcock" Subject: Re: Bleed Together i was wondering if anyone knew how to play the little miny scale thing > right between the E and C# chords. i'm having some trouble with this part. > thanks. it sounds to me like:4) 2 4 5) 0 2 4 4 I might be wrong. Are you playing this in standard tuning or in DGDGBe ? ------------------------------ From: CL Miller Subject: i await don't ask me how this ever happened. . .because i'm going to tell you anyway. you may have read my fleeting post about my near-death soundgarden tracker wreck last week. well, i needed to get a ride to my behavior therapy class, so a friend of mine drove me there. she was listening to weird al's new cd , but anyway, he has a compilation song on there that has snippets of various hits from the 90's. must to my surprise was a snippet of weird al singing black hole sun at a rather rapid pace. i didn't know whether to come or puke. it was NOT the most flattering cover of a sg song, but it WAS different. check it out though. Seth, do you want it to put on the site? i could get it to you if you want it. please lemme know! hey lance, any new news on the compilation 3 tape? i await. tanx. chris "the lives we make never seem to ever get us anywhere but dead..." ~~ c.j. cornell ------------------------------ From: u1002740@host.MIT.EDU (Jeffrey Mlinscek) Subject: *the* song Whoa, Justin you rule. Great review. I know this probably sounds stupid to all the SOUNDGARDEN fans who liked them before SU, but the song that really got me into them was one of the ones from Superunknown (I cant remember which one I heard first) probably BHS. But it really wasnt one song that turn me into a SOUNDGARDEN freak, it was just like there whole attitude. Most of the bands I used to like started out playing there music for themselves, but then after they became popular they would just keep pumping out album after album with crap on it just to collect money. SOUNDGARDEN is not like that they still play the music they want to play. They dont change there music so they can please those Hootie/Gin Blossom fan's out there. They have great talent and that is what really turned me into a SOUNDGARDEN fan. I'm entering without a sound. I'm entering on wings I've found. ----Entering---- Sean ------------------------------ From: "Al Babcock" Subject: Thighter&Tighter in Guitar I saw the new Guitar magazine today and noticed Tighter&Tighter was tabbed in it. You know how these magazines are, thay only tab singles. Now i'm wondering if this is going to be the new single. I know you guys have talked about TY Cobb being the next single but. I hope the don't play Tighter&Tighter on the radio because it is one of my favorite songs on the new record. Well, I guess it doesn't really matter now since I'm boycotting all radio and cola companys.......... ------------------------------ From: Mercyhurst Prep Library Subject: when I realized... When my friend Lin and I got into Pearl Jam, she began to notice and go nuts over Sg. At that time you couldn't mention one band w/out mentioning the other. (Notice how THAT changed???) I didn't like the music at all--so sue me! Then we saw them in Toronto when Sg, and PJ opened for Neil Young. The new stuff--whcih became SuperUnknown, just blew my mind! I was floored! I was also instantly sold! Can't identify one song specifically, but one look at the Kimster and that also did it for me! good string! let's kkep it going! ciao....deb ------------------------------ From: Lynne Low Subject: Re: None At 10:49 AM 1/31/97 +1000, Amy dowler wrote: >hi, i'm new to the list, and i'm jst mailing to say i went to a sg concert >on saturday night, and it was really good! it's the first time i've ever >seen them, and they sounded great! >so yeah, sorry to bore you all, Welcome Amy! You could never bored me talking about your experience at a SG concert! Especially with it being your first time! PLEASE write and tell us everything! (I'm sure others on the list would agreed with me.) I love reading all the posts about the concerts. I know that each person will have something different and unique to share. To continue the thread about "when I realized..." I have to say it was while I was driving in my car one night. I was extremely depressed about life and feeling totally alone. No one seemed to understand what I was going through back then. Sometimes you get so tired trying to explain your moods, etc. Anyway, I had the radio on. Music has always been a lifesaver for me since I was a kid. I heard this soothing guitar and then this incredible voice came over the airwaves. It was "Fell On Black Days" and I have never been the same. Here was someone who understood me. I wasn't alone anymore. I pulled over to the side of the road to listen closely to the words. A wonderful feeling of peace took control of my soul. I cried. That was the turning point for me. That's when I knew SG wasn't just a average band. They earned a permanent place in my heart forever. I can always turned to SG when I'm blue. The music works wonders as you know. The SG member I most identify with? Chris. Knowing that he is a Cancer like me makes me feel so connected to him. Sexiest song? I'll never tell, it's my own personal secret =) Have a good weekend all! Lynne Lowe ------------------------------ From: Aferdity@aol.com Subject: 1st song For me it was BHS (i know I know) "everyone and their grandmothers know this song..." I wasn't having a very good summer and there was this empty place in my heart that was somehow fogged over the first moment I heard and listened to this song. I was like, "Whoooaaa!!!" That's when I knew that Soundgarden wasn't just another band. I had heard Spoonman before but never really paid attention. Well, from there I went and bought SU. Then I just couldn't get enough so I went and bought BMF and so on and so on. Basically, if it had Soundgarden on it, I bought it. Today, I'm still trying to make my collection bigger and with every passing day I become a bigger Soundgarden Phreak. But I have to say that just recently (about 2 months ago) I heard Fresh Deadly Roses and that song really hit home with me. Well, enough babbling for one day!! Take care and be sweet!! Stay Cool, Kelly :) ------------------------------ From: Aferdity@aol.com Subject: :) Sorry to post again but I forgot to mention this in my other post (DUH!!!). Could anyone get me a copy of the Launch Magazine CD-Rom thingy with Soundgarden on it. I've looked around here... well, I don't want to go into any details about that because all I'll end up doing is bitching about it. :) Anyway, if someone could help me out, please e-mail me (Aferdity@aol.com) and maybe we can work something out. Take care and be sweet!! Stay Cool, Kelly :) ------------------------------ Subject: Skin Yard / Toy Box From: seth For anyone interested in pre-SG Matt Cameron, do yourself a favor and pick up the CD version of Skin Yard's first (self-titled) album. I found the clear vinyl about a year ago and was just informed yesterday by Jack Endino that the CD version includes 5 extra tracks, including one called "Skinstruction" with music, lyrics, and title by Matt. The only thing non-Matt about the track is the bridge, which Endino wrote. If anyone has the CD and wouldn't mind posting a review of the extra tracks, that would be cool. (And by the way, I also found out that the original pressing is limited to ~1400 copies, ~1100 on "translucent skin-color" vinyl and ~300 on black vinyl) Also of interest is that "Toy Box" (the bonus track on the Flower EP; if you do not own it, please stop reading right now and GO BUY IT) was an entirely different animal in live performances. It seems that Hiro did the vocals at early SG shows, but he chickened out when they went into the studio to record it. "Toy Box" was one of the leftover tunes from the '86-'87 recording sessions (all 8-track) with Endino from which the Screaming Life EP was assembled. seth ------------------------------ From: Dan Murphy Subject: now you know why i've been shaking... out of lurker mode for a minute...today's digest being the catalyst... awesome story, justin...seth, did you notice an increase in hits to the page? probably originating from oz. :) well, *the* song that did it for me was Slaves and Bulldozers. it has been my fave for...shit, four years now since i first heard it. i had heard JCP, RC, and Outshined on the radio for a while, but i didn't really get into the band much til i saw BMF on sale at the wherehouse one day for like 7 bucks or something. checked it out and blammo! i had to get all their other stuff after i heard SU the next year and here i am. other faves: Blind Dogs, BIMH, Seasons, Kyle Petty... oh, this list could go on for a while... currently listening to "Hey Baby." have a good weekend, sommsters. going out to enjoy the nice bout of weather here in the emerald city... dan ps i was at the old spaghetti factory last night and saw sean kinney...he was with some butt-rock sam kinison-lookalike...weird... ------------------------------ From: endless_nameless@prodigy.com (GRRL NIKI FREER) Subject: no it's not too late... time for me to dive into this one too... biff asked: > i am wondering what the most powerful lines in SG songs >are to you. Either for personal reasons as so many are, or >just because they are incredibly powerful. **most personally powerful lyrics: "black hole sun / won't you come / and wash away the rain..." "i'm luck's last match struck / in the pouring down wind..." "hello don't you know me / i'm the dirt beneath your feet..." "whatsoever i've feared / has come to life / whatsoever i've fought off / became my life..." "as your raped / by another monkey circus freak / trying to take / my indignace away / from me..." all of Slaves & Bulldozers, New Damage, Tighter & Tighter, and basically all of the above songs too... there's just too many to list without taking up as much space as justin's last post did... = ) ** most powerful besides that: I agree with biff here and shoot for Mind riot. it's amazing, it's touching, it's emotion at it's extreme. and also i think JCP is anger at it's very peak, and that makes it just that much more powerful... and Nothing to Say, just because... there's just something about it. and how "don't throw yr shit on me" Hand of God is always blows me away... mind riot * congrats to justin, i am green with envy... * ____ and if i'm condemned let me rest on my pillow and dream of those moments so few and if i'm blessed i'll be chasing your shadow there i go...nowhere... nowhere but you... ------------------------------ From: "Anna Mehrer" Subject: CC Interview Hello all! Quickly: A *Chris Cornell* interview will be broadcast on Chicago's Rock 103.5 on Sunday, Feb.2 between 10 and Midnight. Interviews with >Rob Zombie< and Silly Corgan will also be broadcast. LouBrutus did not say when these interviews originally took place. Also, the Chi Tribune has a review of Hype! in the "friday" section. (sorry, Toni, that I e-mailed you about this already!) I suppose that this review could also be obtained from the Chicago Tribune website for those who care. I guess this is the equivalent of your mother always sending you newspaper clippings. (and evidence, to me, that it's hereditary--aaah!) Just keepin' you 'posted' (haha) Hope everyone has a good weekend... Anna ------------------------------ From: atnadzri@vax1.tristate.edu Subject: Special songg.. Hi all SOMMsters.... well..i'm just goonna contribute something to the latest SG thread... i started listening to Sg during Loud Love..although..i pretty much liked that album...it was BMF that really changed everything...and "Rusty Cage"was that song that really got to me...i mean..it was tottaly different than anything else that i have been hearing at that time..i could say that it is the "signature"Sg song....that opening riff..wow...and another song is...JCP...i mean.. it tottaly blew me away the first time i heard and it still has...it was such an intense song that i felt like banging my head into something while listening to it..well..sort of..:)).. i gotta queation for u guys...how long do u think SG will last.. i they arent teenagers anymore..do u think they will stay rockin till the age 40?? and..what do u guys think about the next SG album?do u guys think they should pursue a diiferent direction...or just go back to the days of UMOK..u know..that raw dirty sound.... well..that's it for 2day..... Andri "It's black and burning sun.." ------------------------------ From: Caryn Rose Subject: Re: Special songg.. On Fri, 31 Jan 1997 atnadzri@vax1.tristate.edu wrote: > i gotta queation for u guys...how long do u think SG will last.. i they arent > teenagers anymore..do u think they will stay rockin till the age 40?? since when is being a teenager a requirement for 'staying rocking'? i can think of many non-teenagers that rock harder and make better music TODAY that will last longer than the music some teenagers are making right now. this is ridiculous. rock and roll is no longer a profession reserved for those youthful in numbers. as long as an artist has something to say they will say it, and some of them clearly have lots to say for a long time to come... so may it be with soundgarden. ;-) - --caryn ------------------------------ From: "Polly, Eliza" Subject: oh my GAWD folks, i stumbled into a goldmine today..i was roaming around the land of REM and B52s (downtown Athens, GA) walked into a cool looking record store, and started talking to the owner, whose roommate used to work for A&M - there is a list of about 30 SG rarities sitting on the counter...i almost passed out....I own alot of them, but know it would be cool to sell some of them to my beloved Sommsters... I need to consult with the discog hombre ;-) and will then let everyone what i got...so far I saw SOMMS, Supermainstream, Screaming Life and Fopp vinyls, the Louder than Live with the duct tape (and i think he has an autographed one too, with Hiro's sig), the Rusty Cage special 7", a JCP limited edition 12", and a Louder than Love *very special* picture disc of which only 500 were made and it has 2 songs on it supposedly *never* put on anything else....I am drooling ...I am going back there tonight (they are open till 2 and are right next door to the infamous 40Watt Club)...ok, i will stop babbling now, just had to share... eliza, suddenly a collecting fanatic! ------------------------------ From: Awesmeyes@aol.com Subject: Soundgarden in the classroom Ok, folks here is my big chance!! For my vocal performance class, my music theory teacher is instructing us on the finer points of intervals, minors, Majors, etc. So when we got to Perfect 4's she told us that we were to bring in ANY song that started with a perfect 4. So all you wonderful musicians out there, HELP! Tell me there is some song penned by our favourite band, that I can play for all those otherwise heathen ears. There must be something besides "Here comes the Bride" that begins that way. Ok, I'm done for now Heather (Heater) {Proud KTMS member, recently deputized; and official List Hottie} ------------------------------ From: Wednesdayj@aol.com Subject: Re: MSN Interview Vincent wrote: >If anyone could send me this interview or point me to its location, I >would appreciate it. > >- -vincent Sure thing. :) You can find it at: http://www.musiccentral.msn.com/ThisWeekIn/Features/Soundgarden012397.htm Justin, I just wanted to thank you for that *amazing* review. I felt like I was there. It's good to hear all of these great SG experiences, especially for those of us who have yet to see SG in concert. :) ~ Lauren ~ (AKA Wednesday) "I was slipping through the cracks of a stolen jewel..." ------------------------------ From: Georgia Kennedy Subject: the song that DID it I suppose it's finally time for my contribution to this thread. Vince Varkey wrote: > > What song of Soundgarden's, upon hearing it, made you realize that SG > was not just "another" band and that they were something special? I had Louder than Love, which I liked (moreso after seeing the LTL video), but I can't say it was ever a "high rotation" disc for me (at the time - how things change). Then BMF came out, so I bought it straight away, popped it into my disc player when I got home, and that was it - I was immediately grabbed by the heart, mind and soul from the moment I heard that most amazing song, Rusty Cage. That was all it took. Of course, with further listening to the whole album, I was sold. I remember months afterwards, an old friend called by, we were talking, and he asked me if I'd bought any really good new cds lately. I thought about it, and said "no, but this (holding up BMF) is simply the best thing I own". georgia ------------------------------ From: KAISERVRBL@aol.com Subject: Re: Special songg.. (Caryn Rose) writes: << rock and roll is no longer a profession reserved for those youthful in numbers. as long as an artist has something to say they will say it, and some of them clearly have lots to say for a long time to come... so may it be with soundgarden. ;-) >> And those of us who are "as" old as Soundgarden and getting older by the second, pray to God, that Caryn is right. I turn 30 in February & I'm having pre-trauma stress disorder. Lance "They run to hunt you down" ------------------------------ From: Georgia Kennedy Subject: Sorry.. Sorry for mailing this to list and bothering everyone...... TONI - Once again I can't mail you, my messages keep getting spat back at me. I am trying... Georgia ------------------------------ From: mshaw@lib.occ.cccd.edu (RoseeMisst) Subject: Re: Special songg.. >Hi all SOMMsters.... >well..i'm just goonna contribute something to the latest SG thread... >i started listening to Sg during Loud Love..although..i pretty much liked that >album...it was BMF that really changed everything...and "Rusty Cage"was that >song that really got to me...i mean..it was tottaly different than >anything else >that i have been hearing at that time..i could say that it is the "signature"Sg >song....that opening riff..wow...and another song is...JCP...i mean.. >it tottaly blew me away the first time i heard and it still has...it was >such an intense song that i felt like banging my head into something while >listening to it..well..sort of..:)).. > >i gotta queation for u guys...how long do u think SG will last.. i they arent >teenagers anymore..do u think they will stay rockin till the age 40?? >and..what do u guys think about the next SG album?do u guys think they should >pursue a diiferent direction...or just go back to the days of UMOK..u >know..that raw >dirty sound.... >well..that's it for 2day..... > >Andri > >"It's black and burning sun.." it seems as if a large majority likes JCP as their intro to SG. Mostly songs from BMF for that matter. just wanted to say I noticed that. As for 'Rockin' till age 40', I hope they don't turn into 90s Aerosmith or 80s Zeppelin. Ever notice how the 60s-70s bands usually sound different in the next decade? The 'uuumph' is not there anymore. SG has been out for more than ten years, and DOTU is not a disappointment to me. I have a strange feeling that the next cd will be an unexpected difference... RoseeMisst#1, the fanatic Las Rositas del Jardin de Sonido ------------------------------ From: MissLula90@aol.com Subject: boogada boogada hello there sommsters, I know this is a little late, but someone posted that they were looking for the Request '94 interview. I have it and if anyone really truly HAS to have it, well then e-mail me privately and I'll type it up. It's not the best interview I've ever read, but it's pretty good. About that "first song" thread, well I must say that it was Outshined. It was not like anything I had heard at that time. It's one of those songs that totally makes you turn your head and say "whoa, who is that?" It was one of the most fabulous songs I'd heard in a long time. Oh yeah, if anyone can tell me if there's any concert videos out there or any place I can order them from, tell me please! Thanks chickies! -Hannah ------------------------------ From: SJordet@aol.com Subject: Brian Liesegang's opinion I was flipping through the Filter unofficial website and came across this quote from Brian Liesegang, the guitarist of the band: "Metal has become a dysfunctional term," opines Brian Liesegang of Filter, a Chicago-based duo who fuse grunge-style power riffs with precision grooves worthy of techno or house. "Genres have been bashed through the head. What is metal? What is alternative? What is Soundgarden? Are they alternative or are they metal? They certainly use loud guitars, but there's something there that defies the conventional metal genre. Maybe it stops being metal when there's a subject matter that requires some actual thought, although any time you play a loud guitar you're thinking with your dick." Now, I have yet to fully understand if this is a compliment on his part, but I know it just kind of proves our point - that Soundgarden is special, not just another rock band. Benlover ------------------------------ From: "Kate Phelan" Subject: A review of Hype! If anyone wants to read a pompous review of Hype! from a Chicago "journalist" check out the following page: http://www.chireader.com/hitsville/970131.html I just listened to the clip of Chris talking about this site and mailing list (Shroom, where's it from???) and noticed that he said he's checked out the chat rooms for other bands. Can you imagine!!!???? Talking shit with the man??!! whoa! Kate ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 3 Issue 28] ***************************************