From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Friday, 31 Jan 1997 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 02:15:55 EST Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Friday, 31 Jan 1997 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: rusty cage drawing... um... Clicking songs... OOPS, MY BAD Top 5 SG on J files RE: HYPE! in SLC Soundgarden Cover Album MSN interview wheel of fortune: chris cornell??? Re: covers the "grabber" song winner Re: new thread (not another band)/t-shirt/song "hooks" different Re: new thread (not another band)/t-shirt/song "hooks" unFURLed Re: Not just another band Re: unFURLed Re: In an hour of chaos a new thread.../New Chris pic Louder Than Live CD for sale Reach out and Grab! first song... 1st song Soundgarden boot needed!!! Tall poppies in the garden of sound....... special SG song Re: in an hour of chaos arises a new thread.. That oh so special song... :) thanx :) Re: first song... Re: in an hour of chaos arises a new thread.. 30/1/97 Soundarden in Sydney Re: in an hour of chaos arises a new thread.. soundgarden..not just another band soundgarden (live in queensland) vol. two... now I know why you been shaking... if it clears your eyes... catching up on threads soundgarden (live in queensland) vol. two... *the* song Backstage Soundgarden fever is hitting us hard Down Under RE: Top 5 SG on J files ------------------------------------------------------------ From: "mcinturff, dylan" Subject: rusty cage drawing... As of right now I have 22 entries for the drawing (sorry SOMMS mom, I miscounted...). Everyone has had since Friday to enter, so I guess this is all. Right now it's 2:18 est, so I'm going to stop taking entries an go get my brother to draw the name out of a hat. I'll let you know tonight or tomorrow who wins this thing. Good luck everyone! Dylan ------------------------------ From: David Miller Subject: um... um...check out http://gemm.com/ You might find just a little SG, Tone Dogs, and Hater there...OR MAYBE A TON! Dave Miller ********************************************* *I like to trade bootlegs. * *Check out my Pearl Jam homepage at: * *http://pwp.starnetinc.com/gwm/pearl.htm * *You can find my bootlist there * *PEARL JAM AND SOUNDGARDEN RULE! * ********************************************* ------------------------------ From: endless_nameless@prodigy.com (GRRL NIKI FREER) Subject: Clicking songs... vince asked (well, maybe not in these exact words...) :: > which SG song made you realize that this was *the* band? in all honesty, BHS means a ton and a half to me, and Tighter & Tighter is really the song that *really* did it for me. it was as though Chris knew me, and put me and who i am down into this beautifully amazingly sad beautiful song.... oh, and Mailman too. just the whole "hello, don't you know me / i'm the dirt beneath your feet / the most important fool / you forgot to see..." I was hooked by him and the other boys as well. mind riot ____ and if i'm condemned let me rest on my pillow and dream of those moments so few and if i'm blessed i'll be chasing your shadow there i go...nowhere... nowhere but you... ------------------------------ From: Roseemisst@aol.com Subject: OOPS, MY BAD In a message dated 97-01-30 02:17:40 EST, you write: > On Wed, 29 Jan 1997 Roseemisst@aol.com wrote: > > > just felt I had to respond to Caryn's(Slave4cc's) post. It kinda made me > > feel good.(the recent SoCali weather has something to do with it too) > > sorry, that wasn't my post. my email is clr@nwlink.com, slave44cc is > someone else. > > just not wanting to claim credit where it doesn't belong (to me, that is). > > --caryn > eep. I meant to say Carol said that. Take away the 'yn' in Caryn and what do you have? I makes mistakse somtimez, DAG! Anyways, Kazam, I'm looking for you, dog! You were totally into SG--what happened? You just disappeared like Hiro Yamamoto... RoseeMisst#1, the fanatic Las RositasMisstas del Jardin de Sonido ------------------------------ From: Lee Christensen Subject: Top 5 SG on J files Hey ya, Am I haveing a good time or WHAT!!! 3 hours of Soundgarden on the radio...nothing else just SG SONGS with a few interviews chucked in :) how good is this :) OK High Five SG songs as voted by some yobbo's :) :) 5)Spoonman 4)Fell on Black Days 3)Burden In My Hand 2)Black Hold Sun 1)JCP!!! Woohoo Not a good High 5 really....pathetic if you ask me...but oh well. The sonic youth one a few weeks ago was AWESOME :) (3 hours of Sonic Youth a few weeks back oh yeah :) The subpop manager is just now describing his first ever SG concert when Chris was still playing DRUMS!! Ty Cobb, nothing to say, applebite and Hunted Down have been played :) hmm whatever I am going back to listening heaven and annoying ppl on IRC with my singing :) 2 hours to go!! seeya Lee ***** CD of the Week: 'Republica' by Republica "Turn it UP and Play it LOUD let the blood rush to your head!!" "I'm sorry I was cruel, I forgot to kiss you..... " "You know you don't love me but you still want to touch me, Feel my body while I make you feel ugly" ------------------------------ From: KAISERVRBL@aol.com Subject: RE: HYPE! in SLC GOD FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HYPE! is starting this weekend at the Tower Theater on 9th East & 9th South in Salt Lake City!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Are any of you SOMMSters out there from Utah or the surrounding area?!?!?!?!?!? If so , let's get together & do this thing right! E-mail me!!!! Lance "Now they want to hunt you down" ------------------------------ From: "Christopher Farley" Subject: Soundgarden Cover Album I've been AWOL from the list for a little while, somebody please fill me in on this cover album thing. It sounds like people on this list record a cover of a SG song and somebody compiles it into a collective recording? Good Idea!!! Give me more info, I might be interested. Chris ------------------------------ From: Vince Varkey Subject: MSN interview If anyone could send me this interview or point me to its location, I would appreciate it. - -vincent ------------------------------ From: "ARIE ELMALEH" Subject: wheel of fortune: chris cornell??? well, i just remembered this. a couple of months ago i was watching wheel of fortune, and i got up to get out of the room while pat sajak was introducing the players. all of a sudden, when i'm halfway out the door, i hear pat say,' and this is chris cornell.' well, i just freaked. the first thing i thought to myself was, 'celebrity wheel of fortune with CHRIS CORNELL on??? why would HE be on wheel of fortune?' so i ran to the television only to see some blond guy, who obviously had the same name as our beloved chris. i just had to say that. while everyone's talking about soundgarden's sexiest song, i think that 'tighter and tighter' is it. with the lyrics 'sleep tight for me' and 'take me from this bed tonight', how can anyone think otherwise? also, somebody said that they thought 'pretty noose' was a sexy song. i agree with you on that one. i mean, chris' voice is sexy in any song, so guess i'll have to say that all of them are sexy, but when it comes to lyrics, those two get my vote. cheers, michelle ------------------------------ From: Taylor Holmes Subject: Re: covers Sandy Pierce wrote: > > the thought of a SG covers album gets me all excited... i would love to > contribute (just little old me on my beeeeeautiful guitar) but the > recording would be crap, and i don't even KNOW what digitizing means.. any > help that can be offered to me? > amanda > p.s. Niki, i got the tape, thank you :) Sandy, If you can just get a typical recording on tape (analog). Then, if you have a soundcard on your computer, Take the audio out on your tape player or receiver and connect your line in on your soundcard. Play your tape into your PC while recording using your wave recorder. Thus, your song is digitized, i.e. stored as a digital file. If you don't have these capabilities, then you can send your audio tape to me or someone with a soundcard to do the digitizing. Also, if you have some good audio tools, you can add effects and clean up your recording and make it sound much better. Later, Taylor - -- D. Taylor Holmes Senior Quality Assurance Analyst, Automated Test Coordinator Datastream Systems Software, Inc. home: holmest@netdepot.com work: holmest@dstm.com ------------------------------ From: Slave4cc@aol.com Subject: the "grabber" song Hi all. The song that grabbed me, looked me in the face like a crazed animal, and shook me while yelling "PAY ATTENTION!! This band is SPECIAL"!! was Limo Wreck. The first letter I ever sent SG a few years ago (not email) included one of my fantasies it went sorta like this: (I hope you dont mind I tell you about it for a sec)....cc and I are alone in a big dark concrete building (I picture the Metra, our pathetic concert hall) water is dripping. Light coming through just a crack in a door somewhere. Its very quiet except for the occasional drip drip of the water. cc is over there in the dark somewhere and I am wondering what the hell he is doing. I am standing with my back against the cold concrete wall, just out of the stream of light. All of a sudden, he comes out of nowhere. He starts screaming at me, right to my face. His arms are moving frantically! His spit is flying all over me as he screams! The muscles in his neck tensed! His eyes are crazed! He is so violent he might kill me! I am scared and my heart is pounding...I am mesmorized, I cannot move. But, I am totally liking it. It lasts for awhile....but my vision ends there. I dont know what happenes next. It was cool that "spit in my face" thing has turned up in a couple songs. Im not claiming he got that from me. Many people have probably written to him telling him they would like him to spit in their face. In fact I said "Spit in my face, baby." in my letter. I can no longer concentrate on work must..get..a..grip..(haha) I am still continuing my question for colored vinyl...it dawned on me I can get the name and address of anywhere off the yellow pages on AOL (yea, AOL sucks I know), I started calling Denver record stores yesterday with no luck. Then I tried Portland, again with no luck. This has become like a frenzied need-to-get-or-I-will-die thing with me. If anybody knows the name of a particular store anywhere in the USA that may have them, please let me know. Montana is beautiful and nice and all, but they dont have shit for stores like that! Okay, here's my thread suggestion: Whats your fav SG fantasy?? Is it wierd like mine? Can it be relayed here? Maybe the old listers have done this already so now its the new listers turn. Sorry my post is so long. Just had to recapture the moment, so to speak. Only with you would I share that because it is special. If you didnt care for it, dont tell me about it, just skip it. Slave4cc I would gladly be. Spit it our loud, into my face---No Attention Carol ------------------------------ From: "mcinturff, dylan" Subject: winner This got sent back to me for some reason, so I'll announce it again: Congratulations to Angela (Karizma291), winner of the Rusty Cage single. Dylan ------------------------------ From: DONALD HOLROYD Subject: Re: new thread (not another band)/t-shirt/song "hooks" > Vincent : > What song of Soundgarden's, upon hearing it, made you realize that SG > was not just "another" band and that they were something special? Okay, I must admit...the first song I ever heard from them was BHS. Granted, it was WAY overplayed, and it was the "crossover hit" that EVERYONE loved, even the "housewives who listen to it while vacuuming" (no insults intended - I'm just quoting what I read). Eventually I heard some of the other radio releases (Spoonman, FOBD, My Wave), and thought that they weren't that bad. My sister had the Superunknown CD, and so I kinda "borrowed" it...I wasn't too impressed at first, but it eventually grew on me until I could listen to the whole thing from start to finish and love every single track (how many non-SG albums can be able to do that? - not many) After that, BMF was the next album I had access to...same thing as before, some of the songs grabbed me right away (JCP, SWMGEC, Rusty Cage), others took a while. But it for me it was like that with all their albums - with the realease of DOTU, and then I had to get my hands on LTL. So much for chronological order, eh? Still haven't got a hold of Ultramega OK...still saving up for it (I'm a student struggling to pay my own way through skule), maybe one of these days. > Katie : > I think mine was Superunknown.. when I first got the superunknown cd and > listened to that song I was like "woah" and listened to it tons.. the > lyrics to the song are great... I'm happy I have the glow in the dark > shirt which has them written on the back...=) > speaking of Soundgarden not being just another band.. when I first heard > of them I thought their band name was awesome too.. even if it is named > after a sculpture.. it just gives me these great images in my head.. MAN, I am soooooo envious, I saw the shirt in a Backstage Pass store a couple of years ago...didn't have the $$$, but I LOVE the picture on the front. (it's the one from the CD booklet - the stairway in outer space, the page with the lyrics for the title track)...hey Seth (or anybody) you got a scan of that pic? I wanna wallpaper it on my windows desktop. As for the name, I heard of them when BMF came out, but like I said, only started listening when SU was released. But by that time, I also realized that just saying it gave me a chill, and how lame other band's names are lately. Made me wonder where they got it from, but we all know now... As for the sexiest song thread, I noticed that most of the responses were from female fans...help me out here, guys. (maybe it's because they all would like to jump at least one of the band members) I agree with many of the choices (Loud love, Mailman, BUTOW), but I couldn't imagine myself making love with any SG song playing in the background. Well, Pretty Noose reminded me of the person I'm involved with now, simply because it was playing at a party we were at, and we both liked the song. We knew each other for a few months and were already interseted in each other for quite some time, but at the party we really hit it off. Except that the very next morning she was on a plane bound for Florida, not to return for 2 weeks. That whole time she was gone I had "And I don't like what you got me hanging from" echoing in my head...I guess she and the song had such a big impact on me that I thought I would go insane. That's another thing about their lyrics, it can be the whole message behind the song, or a simple one-liner, a "hook" as someone mentioned before. A different one appears every day on the main home page, beneath the band picture. Seth has them all listed on the page http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/misc/quotes.html Check it out, and if you wanna add one, Seth has a link at the bottom to mail it to him. Well, now that I've bored you with the details of my personal life and other ramblings, I'll let someone else take over the writing duties for a while. - - DoNNy - -- When new damage comes, It's a faceless poison A new world order, It's new damage done The wreck is going down Get out before you drown - CC ------------------------------ From: Judd Pemberton and Erin Kniess Subject: different Howdy everybody, I like the new deal that good ole' Vince got going about what song made you realize SG was different. (OK, so I'm no writer. Give me a break, I live in Texas!) Anyway, I think that the first time I heard "Half", I thought, wow these guys have a really cool eastern kind of sound going. Then, when I saw them in Dallas in '94 and they did a really long version of this without vocals, I became a huge fan of the song. Scariest song would have to be Head Down because it reminds me of my parents trying to control me when I lived with them. In fact, when I moved out, I was so pissed off that I wrote them a really nasty letter quoting many lines from Head Down and compared my mother to Hitler. As far as sexiest song goes, that would have to be the Lollapalooza '92 Arizona version of Hands All Over. His voice kicks so much ass in that one that it sends chills up my spine and gives me the fits, AAARGHHPLOPHZZTS. See, I told you that it makes me crazy. If I were to design a SG T-shirt, I would probably do one for Mailman. Now I'm not trying to give an opinion on what the song means but, I would have this Mailman (pretty original huh) and he would have this really eerie look in his eyes, eyebrows in a downslanting position with a really scarry half-smile on his face. He would be jumping on top of a woman from his mail route and she would be absolutely terrified. On the top of the shirt, Soundgarden of course, and on the bottom, "Riding you all the way". If that one did not pan out, then I would do one for Rhinosaur. This idea would be a complete Matt Cameron rip off but here goes. I would have this teenager looking in the mirror with a horrified look on his face staring at the new HUGE pimple on his nose. (Get it, rhino=nose, saur=sore). Anyway, I think that I have scared you all enough for one post so I will leave now. Judd. ------------------------------ Subject: Re: new thread (not another band)/t-shirt/song "hooks" From: seth After my first listen to Badmotorfinger in 1992 (purchased for me because a friend thought the cover art was cool and because I knew the name "Soundgarden"), the song that reached out and throttled me was Jesus Christ Pose. It was then that I began my search for the rest of SG's material and began a fanship that led eventually to the website idea in February 1994 and then the mailing list in July 1995, etc. That song still gets better with each and every listen. It was *explosive* in Chicago. DoNNy wrote: > That's another thing about their lyrics, it > can be the whole message behind the song, or a simple one-liner, a > "hook" as someone mentioned before. A different one appears every day > on the main home page, beneath the band picture. Seth has them all > listed on the page > > http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/misc/quotes.html Actually, the quote changes every time you reload the page (and so does the third link listed to above the big image, if you don't get that damn error message I can't seem to fix). I haven't added any new quotes recently, so if you want to take a look at that URL above and make suggestions, that'd be cool. Justin, where's Part 2 of your review? We're waiting... :) unfURLed, seth ------------------------------ From: Vince Varkey Subject: unFURLed Hey whatever happened with that whole unFURLed thing? Did we win anything seth? - -vince ------------------------------ From: Seth Subject: Re: Not just another band Hey, once again! The first SG album I ever heard was Louder Than Love, and while I remember liking Uncovered and Gun specifically (sp?), I was young and foolish and regarded SG as 'just another band.' So sue me, I was in middle school in 89, I think. (I don't remember for sure if that is the release date for LL, but I'm only trying to make a point, so I don't need to hear about it :) I digress... Then...then my friends came Badmotorfinger. I heard Rusty Cage on the Radio back when it was 93X in the Twin Cities (Remember the good old days?) and bought the album out curiousity for this unique sound. (The term grunge had not yet been uttered in the Dairy State, where I reside.) I was instantly hooked. I remember thinking, 'these have got to be the coolest musicians in the world,' and I have held that thought to this day, (as I imagine most of us have). I think the songs that had the most impact initially were Outshined, RTHW, and Mind Riot. I know this post was embellishing a little, but it was kind of a big influence to say the least, and hey, you did ask!! ;) Later A Different Seth PS: I think only good things about Loud Love now, as well. PPS: Metallica kicked ass last night, enough said. ------------------------------ Subject: Re: unFURLed From: seth > Hey whatever happened with that whole unFURLed thing? Did we win anything > seth? Well, they changed the line "It will debut in January 1997" to "It will debut soon" so I don't know how long it's going to be before they reveal the winners. But really, with SOMMS' support, how could we not win? :) Vague, seth ------------------------------ From: Deborah Baker Subject: Re: In an hour of chaos a new thread.../New Chris pic Vincent wrote: >What song of Soundgarden's, upon hearing it, made you realize that SG >was not just "another" band and that they were something special? Hearing and seeing the Spoonman video did it for me. Before that, the first I had seen, heard - or even heard of - Soundgarden was when Outshined appeared on the Beavis and Butthead show. And I was too engrossed in ogling this gorgeous shirtless guy to listen really hard to the song. But when Spoonman came out it just blew me away - just all the stuff that was going on underneath the main melody and the whole idea that you could write an amazing song about someone playing the spoons! I hadn't been listening to a lot of music that came out from the mid-eighties onwards, preferring to listen to my old Little Feat and Todd Rundgren albums. Spoonman made me sit up, take notice and rush down to the record store. The rest is history...:-) And he also wrote: >I went to Seth's site yesterday, and there was a new picture of Chris >Cornell on there. It was taken when he was about 17 and it has to be one >of the funniest pictures I have ever seen of the guy. Actually it was taken in 1989 cos I have other shots from the same photo session and Jason was in them. So he would have to have been...um...24 or 25. But he does look very young and very cute. BTW, many, many thanks everyone who responded to my plea for Request 94. I love ya all! UKDeb ------------------------------ Subject: Louder Than Live CD for sale From: seth Someone emailed me today and says he has a Louder Than Live CD for sale for $25. The disc is in mint condition but no longer has the original brown paper/duct tape packaging. If interested, email him at hutera@altinet.net -- DO NOT email me about it. For those not in the know, Louder Than Live is the promo-only CD that is the soundtrack to the home video of the same name. The CD came wrapped in brown paper and duct tape and had a big yellow sticker across the front that says "Soundgarden - Louder Than Live" (there is a picture of it on the website somewhere). It was also released as a limited edition on blue vinyl (and might I add, the blue vinyl is *beautiful* - if only I could steal it from MIT's radio station...). Anyway, if you're interested in the CD, email hutera@altinet.net. seth ------------------------------ From: tonerkin Subject: Reach out and Grab! The song that made me sit up and listen to Soundgarden was JCP when I heard it at a party. I had to "know" what band was playing immediately from the host. BUTT the song that I heard and knew that it was written for me, to me and about me was Fell on Black Days. It described a period in my life now past...(thank you Soundgarden gods ) and Chris's voice and lyric touched me very deep inside. I have come to love many more Soundgarden songs and sometimes I will play a song everyday for a week cause I can't get enough of it(sorry it's UKDeb's fault I keep thinking about those white bellbottoms) FOBD ..... it's the one that made me the Soundgarden freak I am today and proud of it!!! toni ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: first song... i remember having heard of soundgarden in the early days when friends would send me tapes of what was going on in what was the *real* alternative music scene. i didn't pay that much attention to them because i was determined not to jump on what was the damn sub pop/seattle bandwagon even then. (i was living in israel at the time -- this was 1992 and things were very very very different than they are now) but then i saw the JCP video on either MTV europe or MTV asia and i was like, "WHOA!" holy shit! it was so unbelievably different looking and sounding than the other crap that was on there at the time and i liked the lyrics, and when i heard they were getting into trouble with religous-types over it i knew there had to be something good there. ;-> i then combed the entire country for a copy of the cd. i finally had to resort to calling the label manager for a&m and asking him for a copy. he only had one! -- his! -- and so he gave it to me. i fell in love with the cover and would beg anyone leaving the country for the us or europe to be on the look out for a shirt like that (having seen rikki rachtman or someone on mtv wearing it) -- never got one. ;-( i also remember when guns n roses did that pay-per-view from paris in 92.... the record company i worked for paid for the satellite time for it to be broadcast in israel -- this was a big deal and had never been done before. i had a house full of people from the record company and the media to watch it and i just remember that moment when the satelitte went on and the first thing i saw was ben shepherd and then they cut to chris and everyone is going 'who is this, t his isn't guns n roses' and talking away and i'm diving for the vcr to hit record and screaming, 'shut UP, th is is SOUNDGARDEN' and everyone thought i was a lunatic. (i am. but never mind). to me, there is just nothing like the intro to JCP. nothing they have done since is as perfect, is as definitively SOUNDGARDEN as that moment. the perfect synergy of all 4 sg elements... at least imo. ;-) - --caryn ------------------------------ From: CAMPBELLCG@bvu.edu Subject: 1st song Well folks my introduction to the garden came (and i can't believe no one has said this already) with Outshined. A friend of mine had it and played only that song saying that the rest of the record sucked. I went and purchased the disc and quickly fell in love. Soon i was spouting to my friends about this band and no one listedend to me. Fools, fools they're all fools i say! Ah, ha ha ha! But they have changed their ways. I absolutely nuts for Outshined, SWMGEC, and most importantly, Mind Riot, which still remains my absolute favorite song. Too touching... i'm tied within....... i'm luck's last match struck, in the pouring down wind Oh my god. i would contest that that is one of the most powerful lines in *any* song in history , andwith the danger of starting yet another thread, i am wondering what the most powerful lines in SG songs are to you. Either for personal reasons as so many are, or just because they are incredibly powerful. i've been caught biff ------------------------------ From: Pearl Jammer Subject: Soundgarden boot needed!!! Hello, I am Merrick Lipp from the Pearl Jam lists. I am a bootleg trader(Pearl jam only) but I do like soundgarden a lot! I was just wondering if anyone could help me. I want one soundgarden bootleg. I just want a full decent quality sounding show that has "Blow Up the Outside" on it. For a year I have loved that song! Thanks, Merrick LIpp ------------------------------ From: amy dowler hi, i'm new to the list, and i'm jst mailing to say i went to a sg concert on saturday night, and it was really good! it's the first time i've ever seen them, and they sounded great! before the show we could hear the soundchecks/practising, which was cool. i could see them really clearly and everything, so yeah, sorry to bore you all, amy. http://www.angelfire.com/sd/amydowler/index.html ps - did you hear the j files last night australians! ------------------------------ From: Carolyn Hanel Subject: Tall poppies in the garden of sound....... I'm getting edgy and excited again, my toes starting to tap in = anticipation of seeing Soundgarden live at the Big Day Out = tomorrow............... I got the guide today so I know when and on which stage each of the 32 = bands will be playing tomorrow. In it was the following article (titled = as per my subject heading above), by Martin Newman {the first three = sentences say it all, I reckon!}: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Soundgarden, the seminal shapers of the Seattle sound and perhaps the = decade's finest denizens of hard rock, are at their peak. For the many = who never got the chance to see John Lennon, Jim Morrison and Janis = Joplin, it is Soundgarden who are knock, knock, knockin' on the door. Within the window where rock'n'roll immortals walk, the band has carved = out its own legend, outliving Nirvana and producing a more diverse range = of albums than Pearl Jam. With hits such as 'Big Dumb Sex' through to = 'Jesus Christ Pose', 'My Wave', Black Hole Sun' and 'Down on the Upside' = [woops! I think he means 'Pretty Noose'/'Burden in my Hand'/'Blow up = the Outside World'??], Soundgarden own a powerful back catalogue, the = envy of any self-respecting rock outfit. And having ridden the wave that brought rock festivals back into vogue, = it is fitting they should headline the last Big Day Out. Lead singer Chris Cornell says: "I don't know what the perception of the = Big Day Out was but Lollapalooza was starting at the same time that = alternative music was becoming a genre, a huge commercial genre. A lot = of the bands hadn't had commercial notoriety. It wasn't something that = was planned. It just happened. It was very fresh. It was a brave new = thing to a lot of fans." But since that brave new time, the beat has dimmed somewhat. Idealism = and attitudes wrought through hardship and struggle have been moulded = into something sanitary and mass-marketable. Once-revered acts have = been reborn as the hated false idols of corporate rock, while the = festival circuit world-wide is crumbling around our amps. Cornell explains that the backlash against the record company money = markers affects everybody. "Once you begin something like that, you're = putting a timeline on its popularity and relevance," he says. "I'm very = fond of Metallica. They were kind of in between the old style of = commercial hard rock and this blend that came from indie. They were the = saviours of rock for a while and now people are trying to call them the = corporate rock standard." Soundgarden themselves received abundant criticism for touring with Guns = N'Roses, cynics suggesting the band was trying to imitate its stage = buddies. "I don't look at how people dress, or what style of music they like," = Cornell says. "We're our own band and we play our own songs." And the dark snake-charm of Soundgarden seems to have naturally tapped = into the tortured psyche of the world's young.=20 The band also drew early comparisons to Led Zeppelin, something = guitarist Kim Thayil can't see. "It started off as a way that punk-rock = magazines referred to us," he says. "There were independent American = magazines that liked us and then there were magazines that didn't like = us, that would say 'Oh, just another Led Zeppelin band'. But these = magazines would refer to any punk-rock bands that played at a slow tempo = as being Zeppelinesque." Thayil says there's no particular spiritual thread running through the = band's pummelling sound. Nonetheless, it sounds like stuff they sold = their souls to grapple with. "Well we didn't." Thayil says softly. "It probably comes more from = within than below." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Unfortunately the Beasts of Bourbon (whose music Kim Thayil picked in = his top five on JJJ radio the other night) are playing partly at the = same time as Soundgarden tomorrow night. SG plays from 9.20 to 10.20, = while the Beasts play from 10 to 11 pm. Bummer. :-( Still, what a day/night I have ahead of me!! :-) 11 am tomorrow right = through until 11.30 pm tomorrow night! Yahoo!!!!!!=20 Carolyn the Muddy Feather I think it's turning back around, and I think I like = it........Soundgarden ------------------------------ From: taylor@stratos.net (Taylor) Subject: special SG song Hello SOMMSters! What song of Soundgarden's, upon hearing it, made you realize that SG was not just "another" band and that they were something special? The song that originally hooked me on SG was JC Pose. When I heard those drums, I knew. The song that really made me stand up and take notice was Mind Riot. I was playing BMF all the way through for the first time, and Mind Riot took my breath away. During the luck's last match part, I wasn't even blinking anymore. But that's when I knew that SG had the stuff. Taylor K. - -- "Bloody murder is the best I've heard her scream Holy devil in the flesh some might believe" ------------------------------ From: Greg Dunbar Subject: Re: in an hour of chaos arises a new thread.. Good thread man! >What song of Soundgarden's, upon hearing it, made you realize that SG >was not just "another" band and that they were something special? After hearing the entire Superuknown album in it's entireity I could tell that Soundgarden were pretty damn good! But it was only when I lent Badmotorfinger off somebody a few days later and I must have played Slaves & Bulldozers and Jesus Christ Pose 5/6 times in one afternoon - I was totally hooked and knew that they were something special. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Visit "The Seas Of Cheezcake" http://www.cbl.com.au/~greg/index.html - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ------------------------------ From: ThNrthFace@aol.com Subject: That oh so special song... Howdy, Well, I'll jump right into this thread with both feet and say "Flower." When they first started playing it on the radio, I knew I had to love them. There was no choice, there was no option. Like Caryn said, most everyone, even amongst the losers in my school (I was in 5th grade I think) situated less than a stone's throw away from Soundgarden's hometown. I was made an outcast because I didn't love Bon Jovi like the rest of the drones. But that didn't matter. The loss of popularity in comparison to Soundgarden's music was more than a fair trade. I fervently asserted myself and announced that Bon Jovi sucked, and they were all stupid motherfuckers for actually liking them. (Once a thug, always a thug I guess) I still say Bon Jovi sucks (if you disagree, I don't care, all flames regarding Bon Jovi will be forwarded to Michael Apple, Nothingman, and Jason Little) and most of the people who liked them then would now agree with me. In High School, when BMF and Superunknown were released, I felt I had full vindication. Now, if someone tells me that Soundgarden sucks, I just kick their ass and call it a day. Anyways, that's the story. The KTMS Founder, SOMMS Sheriff, List Thug, reigning Mr. Hootchie SOMMS, and all around crazy guy. Aaron "Those guys are crazy!"-Kim Thayil speaking on the KTMS ------------------------------ From: Aferdity@aol.com Subject: :) thanx :) I would just like to say thanx to everyone that responded to trying to help me out about the singles. You guys/gals are the best. I don't know what I would do without you. Oh, I was thumbing through US magazine and on the very last page, at the very bottom, there is a quote by none other than the main man himself, Chris Cornell. He says, "People just don't realize how much fun it is to be depressed." Well, I'm sure everyone could have guessed this coming from him. Hmmmmm... Well, just thought I would share for those who care and for those who don't, :)~ (kiss off)!!!! Take care and be sweet!!! Stay Cool, Kelly :) ------------------------------ From: mshaw@lib.occ.cccd.edu (RoseeMisst) Subject: Re: first song... >to me, there is just nothing like the intro to JCP. nothing they have done >since is as perfect, is as definitively SOUNDGARDEN as that moment. the >perfect synergy of all 4 sg elements... at least imo. ;-) > >--caryn Oh, you said it! I was just listening to Badmotofinger last night, listening to the songs in order, waiting for that one to come on. If there's anything I love about that intro, it's Kim ripping his dexterous fingers lightning fast into that guitar(it is Kim, isn't it?) RoseeMisst#1, the fanatic Las RositasMisstas del Jardin de Sonido ------------------------------ From: Aleko Subject: Re: in an hour of chaos arises a new thread.. Easy. Jesus Christ Pose. "Rock n' roll doesn't have a soul, just a dick and a wallet" --- Kim Thayil ------------------------------ From: Aleko Subject: 30/1/97 Soundarden in Sydney Okay here goes my review of the Soundgarden show last night. I'll try to keep it short. Get to the Horden around 7:45pm. The Fauves are on. They don't completely suck. Then after they finish there's a five minute break (that's fast) and on comes You Am I. They are not as bad as i expected but still really bad. I had up the front with my friend before Soundarden starts. Just before they go on my friend says "I hope they don't start with Spoonman, i don't like that song". Well you guess it their opener was Spoonman. After 5 minutes at the front i was seriously overheating (there was no room to move) so i move back a little. The setlist in no order was: Spoonman (opener) My Wave Let Me Drown Mailman Black Hole Sun (Chris solo) Rusty Cage Outshined Slaves & Bulldozers Jesus Christ Pose Searching With my Good Eye closed Pretty Noose Ty Cobb No Attention Blow Up The Outside World Burden In My Hand Boot Camp Waiting For the Sun Helter Skelter. THe sound could have been better (Metallica was right Soundgarden's soundman sucks), and the crowd was pretty lame (A lot of them didn't know any pre Superunknown songs, they were just standing quietly while Rusty Cage was cranking out :( Soundgarden played well (suprise) but i would have liked a better setlist, you can't please everyone i suppose. Highlights: Blow up the Outside World, Outshined, Slaves and Bulldozers were great. The intro to JCP with Matt starting slowly then all of a sudden exploding into action. I could see it coming but it still hit me hard, boy he played great. Kim was his usual quiet relaxed self. Chris was very pumped up and was enjoying himself immensely. He took his shirt off before Ty Cobb and i must say shirtless and with tight black jeans he looked damn sexy (yes i am a guy, no I am not gay). Ben was in a good mood pulling faces and making weird hand shapes and playing along with the crowd, smearing when we didn't singalong loud enough. During S & B Chris went behind the amp and motioned to put the spotlight on Kim as Kim went into a long solo. I thought that was a nice touch. For the encore they stared with Mailman, the JCP which I 'm sure some people didn't know! The set finished with about 10 minutes of feedback and Chris talking into the mike. Kim gave us the beer salute and it was over. Feeling extremely dehydrated me and my friends headed home. All of us in awe of Matt's Drumming and Chris' singing (he was great after the first few songs). I was slightly dissapointed that Ben could harldy be bothered playing JCP and that detracted from the song. Oh well at least they played it this time. It wasn't the best concert i have ever seen but it was an excellent performance by a great band. You can't ask for much more then that. PS On the way out i was handed flyers anouncing a Tool show at Macquarie Uni along with Sprung Monkey, Mark Of Cain, Midnight Oil, Skunk Anaissie(sp?), and others. The world can be a great place :) "Rock n' roll doesn't have a soul, just a dick and a wallet" --- Kim Thayil ------------------------------ From: gene Subject: Re: in an hour of chaos arises a new thread.. Vince Varkey wrote: > > What song of Soundgarden's, upon hearing it, made you realize that SG > was not just "another" band and that they were something special? > For myself, SWMGEC!! - -- ^ ----- \___/ ----- ; > gene http://www.pe.net/~sunishun/ ------------------------------ From: Rita Bonofiglio Subject: soundgarden..not just another band someone wanted to know what sg song proved that they were just not another band...i don't have a song, it was the enitre badmotorfinger album, which is also the first sg ambum i bought (ok, kill me i haven't been w/ 'em since screaming life!)and it BLEW ME AWAY. although music should be all that matters, there is something more to them. to me they seem like just four normal guys, no "rock star" mentality here and i like the fact that i am unable to put them on pedstols. this is NO WAY an attack to those of us who refer to them as "gods", i certainly understand how that label would apply though (especially after a visit to shroom's page ; ) they just seem very real to me...by real i mean they don't flash their wealth, if they're in a bad mood, they won't be fake, they'll let you know. some people may think thats mean, but i am also a bit demented but what do i know, they can be flaming assholes who knows...if they are, they're pretty good actors too do i make sense? does anyone agree? - -----rita "we yell at people to get off our bus and spit and flip people off--whatever it takes. we are not your heroes." -----kim thayil ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: soundgarden (live in queensland) vol. two... (you may want to put aside some time to read this. it is *long*). (in fact, it is a monster). (digest readers will hate me today). festival hall; brisbane, queensland; january 22 1997. this night had been a long time in the making. little joe and I had seen the band for the first time almost two years to the day, and we had both sworn black and blue that we would make every effort to see them the next time they were here. their show at the roxy in 1994 blew me away, and still stands as one of the best live shows I have ever seen. unlike the big day out show, I had *very* high expectations for this show. in the days leading up to the show, it became increasingly clear that littlejoe and I may actually have the opportunity to meet the band backstage at the show. I originally didn't have high hopes, it was something that seth had talked to matt and erin from the fanclub in passing, but I didn't want to get all wound up about it and then have it not come off and ruin my appreciation of the show. I don't think that holding your breath when things like this are involved is the wisest course of action. if it happened, then it happened. on the day of the show, littlejoe and I came into uni (where our net access is concetrated) to sound out whether we were in or out. seth had pulled a couple hundred virtual strings over the week and had word from erin that our chances were good. there were still, of course, no guarantees. if faxes don't get read or security guards feel like playing tough we could be out in the cold. so we ended up leaving here and taking a bus ride down to festival hall to make some enquiries. we also thought that we might come across a sg soundcheck (we lucked out and heard the pumpkins do their's at the same venue last year), so the trip had a couple of motives. well, there was no soundcheck to be heard. I knew that the band was staying down on the gold coast, so it was difficult to guess when they would actually get into town (the trip from brisbane to the gold coast is about one hour) or when they would run through their soundcheck. we had more luck with our backstage access questions. armed with various names of import, littlejoe and I went to the ticket booth and asked what happened with regards to guest passes and the like. we were told to come back when the doors opened at 7:10. we also found out where the cloak room was, since we would have a bag full of stuff to be signed just in case the band was willing to see us :) the next couple of hours were pretty charged. littlejoe and I headed back to his place to shower and eat before the show. joe remonstrated me for wearing jeans to the show, as it gets notoriously hot in festival hall; but I had no option, because my house is a good half hour from his, and there was no way I was going back, heat or not. we ended up playing cards for far too long; I looked at the clock on the way to the toilet and it was already seven o'clock. this meant a quick shower and wolfed-down meal of steak and salad before joe's mum kindly gave us a lift into town. as always, the atmosphere outside the hall was electric. masses of fans were hanging around outside all the entrances, crowding the footpaths and watching as more and more people joined the throngs. joe and I immediately went to the ticket office and gave our names, crossing our fingers that erin's fax had reached someone in charge and that passes had been left for us. sure enough, when the old lady behind the desk turned to whatever sheet was on the desk, our names were on it. she says "here you go," and hands us tickets. we look at the tickets, look at each other and then look at the tickets again. she's given us free seating tickets. I said "no, we were told that we were on a guest list to go backstage." she goes turns back to her little desk/counter and then says "justin nicholls and ilfryn carstairs?" and then walks back to us with two white envelopes in hand. our names are on the front and inside are backstage passes, exactly the same as the ones given out to the chicago sommsfest attendees. our's have our names written on them, in addition to the show's date and "somms" in big black letters. we were by this time, of course, grinning big shit-eating grins. seth's plan for us to meet the band had come off, and in addition to that, we had scored free tickets! but we both already had our own general admission tickets, so they weren't much use to us. neither joe nor myself wanted to sell them (scalpers we ain't), so I went to the nearest phone booth and called my girlfriend. the all-knowing envelope told us that we had to meet at the security door at 8:10. it was now 7:45. roberta (my girlfriend) couldn't believe that we had free tickets, but it didn't take much talking to get her to get dressed and use my extra. I made certain to tell her that she *had* to be here by 8:10, because by then we would be inside. while we waited for her to arrive, there was much back-slapping and smiling. we were about to meet with the band; I wasn't sure in what sort of setting, but the anticipation made it much more exciting. I finally had to know something, so we walked across the street to the stage door. a guy with a black "crew" shirt on had just come out to have a smoke. I asked him "we have passes to go backstage and meet the band. do you know what the process is?" he turned to the door and thought for a moment. then he said "I'll find out for you". he goes back into the hall and about a minute later comes out with a short man with glasses in tow. "hi, I'm scott. what can I do for you?" "we have backstage passes" . "oh, you're the somms guys. cool." scott turns out to be the touring manager. I was also gratified by his remark of "cool shirt", in reference to my hater shirt. he was extrememly helpful (it was scott who gave our envelopes/passes to the ticket desk) and was a particularly nice guy. I asked him if there was going to be a signing session backstage, and he said that there probably wasn't but that he wasn't sure either. I told him that we had to wait for my girlfriend and that after I gave her the ticket we would come in. he nodded and went back inside. well, after I had paced a nice, deep rut into the sidewalk, roberta turned up at 8:08. I gave her the seating ticket and the three of us walked in through the stage door (it was also door no. 1, the door on roberta's ticket). there was a line of people on one side of the corridor waiting to go backstage. our friends from skinnys record store were there (lyana and cheryl), so I said goodbye to roberta and jumped in line with them. after waiting for about five minutes, we were led down a hallway into the band's dressing room. at this point I probably could have jumped out of my skin. I'd followed this band for quite awhile now, and this was my first opportunity to see them up real close. as I walked in, I saw chris standing in a doorway. as he saw us, he quickly ducked behind it. there were chairs along one side of the room, and on the facing wall were three big red and black posters for dotu. I walked in with joe and we headed for the corner. scott casey came over to us and said "here, these are for you," and handed us signed photos of the band. joe's said "ultramega thanx" and mine said "thanx sommsters". matt had signed his name "matt cameron.com", which I thought was pretty cool. I was halfway through putting the pictures in my bag, when the band walked in. I don't know how chris had gotten out of the room, but now he was with ben, matt and kim, and the four of them were in the room with us! it was all a little too surreal. I finally pushed the photos into my bag and turned around. matt pointed to my shirt and said "hater!" and ben nodded to joe's shirt and said "cool shirt" (the mustard yellow one with the sg star on the front). everyone was smiling and nodding. chris moved around the circle first, shaking hands and talking to each person individually. matt came directly over to us after scott said "these are the somms guys". I have to admit to you all that I was a little shell shocked at this point. all four members of soundgarden in the same room as me? I wasn't really prepared. matt said "so you're the sommsters" and ended up talking to joe for a minute about the wonders of the internet and how he isn't quite up to speed yet. I made sure to say hello on behalf of seth, and he said thanks. I regret not being able to untie my tongue. I could have asked a couple of questions, but my brain left as soon as the band arrived. soon chris had made it to me, and I stuck my hand out into space and said "hello chris". he looked me in the eye and said "hello". I'm not sure of what I said next, although it was probably something about having a good show. I really envy the chicago sommsters, because our meeting with the band probably only went for five to ten minutes. ben and kim didn't even make it around to our side of the room. damn those industry reps who are just there for a photo opportunity! maybe if we had had more time I could have set my head straight, but it wasn't to be. a couple of photos were taken of people with the band, one of them including joe, me, our friends from the record store and soundgarden. hopefully we can all get a copy or access to a copy from the polydor record rep . I probably look dopey anyway. then it was over. we filed out of the room. lyana and cheryl made sure to shout out to tim rogers of you am I on the way out. I left with mixed feelings. it was more than wonderful to meet the band, but I just wished that more time could have been spent back there. oh well, I guess that was only half of the night's entertainment :) by this time turtlebox (the first band) had finished and you am I were into their first song. joe and I said goodbye to lyana and cheryl and headed outside. I ditched my bag at the cloakroom and we went through door one. the amount of people inside was mindboggling. I have *never* seen so many people inside festival hall in my life, and I'm not sure that I will again. we had a hard time in moving past the first group of people, but we quickly moved past those in the back to a space near the stage (around seven metres from the stage). suffice it to say that you am I were great. their setlist was well-conceived and their sound was awesome. it was the third time I've seen them, and I will definitely see them again. by the end of their set I had made it through the mosh pit (somewhere where I don't normally venture) to about three metres from the stage and a little to the right. you am I left the stage to enormous applause, but then the crush began. everyone was moving forward in anticipation of soundgarden's entrance. I ended up on a metal platform that juts out from the bottom of the barrier; one foot on and the other mostly on. some big guy was standing to my left and a girl was on my right. we threw around some idle chatter about soundgarden, I bet someone that they open spoonman and then searching. we watched the techs bring out the instruments, and to my surprise the guy who I had accosted outside the stage door was actually sean (matt's drum tech). my respect for him instantly rose. then the lights went down and more pushing began. I had long lost track of joe; he was somewhere behind me, probably one of the guys pushing me in the back. as the band walked out into the darkness, the crowd absolutely roared, I ended up with some chick's hair in my mouth. everyone was going crazy, louder than just about any other show I have been witness to. the band roared into 'spoonman', crunching the shit out of their amps. I have never, ever heard a louder show than the one that night. I've seen dinosaur jr, alice in chains, living colour and the smashing pumpkins at that hall, and I don't think that there will ever be a louder show between those walls. I was interested to see how the band reacted in this environment after playing a (imho) mediocre set at the bdo, and they did not disappoint. they tore through their set like there was no tomorrow. I don't believe that anyone has ever seen the band like this, whether it be in years to come or at any of their early fopp-shows. they were **on**. ben was in a superb mood, smiling at the crowd while plucking unbelievable chunks of ferocity out of his bass. chris' voice was *perfect*, and his stage-presence was awe-inspiring. in all the boots I've heard, I've never heard kim hit so many perfect notes or play so many perfect riffs as that night. and as for matt, well, I cannot say enough about his performance. the man has not lost any of his chops, and probably manages to play with more skill and emotion in a live setting, something that I thought would be hard to achieve. it is hard to remember where all this happened, so I'll just have to leave it to a virtual stream of consciousness. 'round about the third song ('let me drown'), ben walked behind matt's kit and proceded to kick the shit out of a revolving light that may have been annoying him earlier. as lee said, at one point chris was actually *skipping* across the stage with his arms out horizontally between songs, urging yet more screams and bellows from the audience. ben crossed to kim's side of the stage and picked up another light, preparing to hurl it into the audience, but then he wisely decided against it. kim and chris were guitar duelling during 'rusty cage' or 'outshined'; kim would play the normal part while chris would try to out improvise him, kim nodding his approval as chris ran back to the mike. chris taunting our cries as he stood alone on the stage, preparing to play black hole sun ("that sounds familiar, doesn't it? are you calling me a plagarist? oh, you'll know this one...) ben picking up chris' bandolier of guitar picks and tossing it into the front row. at one point chris actually threw his microphone out into the audience. it landed to my right, but I pulled with the rest of the crowd on the cord until his tech came out to retrieve it. chris and ben prowling the stage, feeding of our energy and emotions as we fought over position in the pit. 'black hole sun' sliding straight into the opening riff of 'outshined; no fucking around, just pure bombast and attitude. I had reached the barrier halfway through the show, dead centre, right in front of chris. I remember actually looking right through his legs at matt (who I couldn't see when chris was singing) while they finished 'rusty cage', only to check if matt had switched hands during it's conclusion. ben holding his bass aloft, by the neck, making his tech jump for it for a moment but then giving it to him. chris yelling "this one's for all those guys who saw us the first time we came out here" and then bodily throwing himself into 'hands all over'. ben moving to his mic during 'ty cobb' to scream "fuck you all!", giving the finger to the v.i.p section and spraying enough spittle to water my garden. rambling through a psychadelic/blues version of 'helter skelter' which was mind-numbing in it's beauty. the crack of matt's snare during 'let me drown'. chris hitting *all* the notes in 'pretty noose'. ben hitting his amp hard enough to make it topple to the ground. during 'slaves and bulldozers', kim was playing his old "play-the-guitar-with-my-beard" routine, breathing across the strings to get some feedback. he was trying to smoke at the same time. he would take a drag on his cigarette, exhale, and then inhale again quickly (just oxygen this time) so he could blow on his strings. he got tired of this quickly, though, so he ended up just blowing smoke across the strings. ben was comical throughout all of this, motioning to chris and matt, and making little birdies and butterflies with his hands. at one point (somewhere in the middle) kim was busy lead-breaking while ben and chris were stalking around behind matt's kit. chris' microphone tech had come out to right the stand, but was unaware that ben and chris were sneaking up behind him, playing like snakes in the grass and waiting for him to turn around. he did, and they grinned and blocked his exit from the stage. ben moved in front of him, with chris to his side, but they let him off easy and let him pass. I must say that the band's attitude, demeanour, whatever you want to call it was just perfect that night. they seemed truly happy to be playing for us and appeared to really appreciate the respect and emotion they were garnering from the thousands of people in the auditorium. I was more than pleased that they were enjoying this show more than the bdo. I was practically purring :) the band reached 'search and destroy', and I knew that the concert was soon coming to an end. matt, btw, was a true phenomenon on the skins during this song. chris didn't sing much during the song, giving me a good view of matt's playing. I shake my head every time I think of it. then came 'hands all over', replete with awesome noodling from kim. then came a huge hammer over the head: 'slaves and bulldozers'. to my eternal satisfaction, the crowd knew the song and roared their approval. by this time we were packed like sardines; there was no moshing and little crowd-surfing (thank the gods!). perhaps the set had taken it out of the crowd. anyway, the band managed to perform one of the most mesmerising version of 's&b' I have ever heard. you thought the somms version was good? you haven't heard the brisbane festival hall version. I think it may have run for close to fifteen minutes. during the extra-long instrumental bridge, chris sang parts of 'everybody's got something to hide...', which absolutely blew me away. the song was draining. by this time I was still dead-centre, but the crush was making it difficult for me to even turn my hips 30 degrees. the guy next to me and I were both just grinning our heads off, soaking it all in. but I knew that this would soon end, and then the encore would take over. the band left the stage. we shouted. they waited. we hollered and screamed with what air was left in the hall. they waited some more, and then strode back out, taking up their positions once more. chris declared that "this is one of my favourites" and then strummed the opening notes. I was thinking "no, not dusty again," and then it hits me that one of chris' favourite sg songs is 'head down'. and that is what they are playing! it sounds *so* good live. I hope they never play it again. it was so perfect this time that they should never ever attempt to sully it's memory by doing it again. at one point ben was screaming the chorus to himself, hitting the underside of his chin with one hand all the while; screaming "head high" while pushing his chin higher with each beat. the song was going along at it's stellar pace, I'm thinking that it can't possibly get any better than this, when ben walks to the back of the stage, places his bass on top of a small monitor and then moves towards the drums. I'm laughing all the way, because I know that he loves to get up on the drums during this song, and that we are seeing one of the most memorable performances of this song, by this band, by any band, by any band in the history of the world. some sticks appear in his hand (from matt's stick pouch?) and he starts banging away while matt moves to the left of the kit. then tim rogers of you am I strides out in this little hat and takes up some more sticks and starts smashing on the floor tom and crash cymbal. matt exits the drum riser, and then takes up ben's bass! it was *so* cool. it starts tapping and plucking away, grinning at chris and kim who are trading licks with him. he's sticking the bass out like jimi hendrix did during 'machine gun', slapping away and striking all these spinal tap poses. but the song is beginning to die, the huge improvisation is now drawing to a close. I wanted them to keep on playing, but I knew what was to come, and it was hard to stop from screaming my throat hoarse. matt returned ben's bass and moved back to his kit. the rest of the band moved to the side-stage (applause and waves for and from tim rogers) and waited for matt. he began with one light on him, and proceded to pound the absolute shit out of his kit. but it was not long before ben, chris and kim had joined him to perform a thundering version of 'jesus christ pose'. the crowd surfing began again in earnest, but didn't last long due to the sheer drop-off in energy after the rest of the show. the performance was pure emotion; shards of pure musical fire were just raining down on the crowd as chris assumed his jesus christ pose. I could no longer move in the crush and had to content myself with the pure sonic mayhem that was coming out of the speakers. as the song moved towards an end, kim went for him amp, trying out any number of positions, looking for the best spot to feedback us all to death. matt was still pounding away, while chris bent more feedback from his guitar behind the drum riser. ben is thumping the strings of his bass, and then looks to the floor. he notices a pedal by an amp at the back of the stage. he then looks to the audience and points to someone. he motions with his finger "come up here". some crew guy walks past the barrier and helps the guy from the audience up onto the stage. ben takes the guy by the arm and points to the pedal, instructing the guy. the guy walks over to the pedal while ben plays this weird phasy shit (something like the sound of 'applebite') and then steps on it. ben is now in his ear, directing him, telling him how he should be moving the pedal. the guy is nodding and pressing; ben approves and moves away to play more. the guy is now holding his hands above his head in salute, taunting the crowd (I remember him pointing at his butt a couple of times). ben offers the guy a beer and he throws it down in one gulp. matt has left by now, but chris comes back out and takes up the mic again, screaming intelligibly through the speaker system. then it takes shape. he is screaming pieces of 'nothing to say'. kim is positioning and re-positioning his guild, coaxing more and more feedback out of the groaning amps. the stage is a warzone; the sounds coming from the amps grating and soothing at the same time. this is what soundgarden are, and it was a privilege to see it. one by one they leave, ben taking the lucky audience member behind the kit and shaking his hand. the last note rings out and then cuts off. the house lights go up and the security men are already ordering us back. as if we aren't already fucked enough, now they want to heard over 5000 people out through two small doors. I ask for a setlist, but am refused by the stage crew. I ask three different security fiends to ask for one, but they are no help. they are verbally pushing me out the door. there is literally a drift of paper and discarded/lost shoes around my feet. I swing back in for one more try. the sound desk. I draw a rectangle with my hands and shout "set list". one of the guys almost sighs and then folds up a piece of paper. I elude a security lackey and grab the paper. now I can leave. I hit the pavement outside, drained but ecstatic. I manage to find joe after a little hunting. we grin and shout. this has been our night. we pick up my bag and then head for the stage door. there are quite a few people there. some guy has a huge superunknown poster ready for the band to sign. chris and ben come out, scott casey herding them into a little white van. I didn't have our stuff ready to sign, so we missed out. ben signed the poster "on this day I was...", citing that the day of the photo shoot was his birthday. I shake chris' hand, congratulating him on the show. ben's grip is also firm as I tell him how much I loved the band and the show. after that they are moved away quickly. scott yells that he has to get the other guys out of there. we ask him if they are going to the after-show party. he says no (he was a *very* cool guy). we waited for a *long* time to see if matt and kim would come out, but they didn't. at least not while we were there. we actually watched the crew move everything into these two huge trucks. we talked with ben's bass tech for a couple of minutes, explaining to him that we were from somms. he reached into his pocket and gave us both a purple pick. we shot the breeze with him awhile longer, and then he moved inside (he said that the band preferred club gigs like these to outdoor festivals every time, to my approval). by the time we left, it was almost one o'clock in the morning. that night was an experience I will never forget. if there is a lister here who doubts the total dominance of this band in a live setting, then get ye to a ticket booth, because when they are on, their show is more phenomenal than anything you have seen or you ever will see. my thanks to the band. ps. the setlist reads as follows - spoonman searching let me pretty noose burden my wave ty cobb black hole outshined rusty bootcamp blow up search & destroy hands all over slaves ------------- head down jcp ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide - words by kim thayil ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: now I know why you been shaking... On Wed, 29 Jan 1997, tonerkin wrote: > I just popped the Outshined single in the CD player and as I walked away > from the CD player I found myself doing that little hootchie cootchie dance > that we all do when we are alone and I relized what an incredible sexy > groove Outshined has in that bump and grind sort of way! Than I remembered well, I became just a little *too* intimate with a couple at the big day out show towards the end of soundgarden's set, in a way that is somewhat similar to your thoughts, toni. the bump and grind you feel comfortable doing in your own home was performed with extra gusto during 'slaves and bulldozers' by some guy and girl standing (wouldn't you know it?) right next to me. it was a little disconcerting, as not only were they rubbing their groins against each other, but every second beat their hips would brush up against me. it was making concentration on the show difficult. I tried pushing them away and giving them scary somms glares, but it was all for naught; I actually ended up having to move away before their 'interpretive dance' made me lash out. so I guess their vote for sexiest song would be 'slaves and bulldozers'. I just thank god that they didn't play 'big dumb sex' straight after :) ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide - words by kim thayil ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: if it clears your eyes... as some listers may know (if you've been keeping up with the list for the last 24 hours), we australians have been talking about something called a "j-file". this is a weekly segment held on our national "youth" radio network triple j. each week richard kingsmill picks a band and does a three hour special on them betwee the hours of 10 pm and 1 am. this week it just happened to be soundgarden :) from memory, the songs played last night were (not in this order): nothing to say, hunted down, fopp, loud love, hands all over, rusty cage, outshined, slaves and bulldozers, fourth of july, let me drown, my wave, jesus christ pose, black hole sun, pretty noose, burden in my hand, blow up the outside world, spoonman, applebite, ty cobb, mailman and girl u want. they also played say hello to heaven, mona bone jakon, seasons and johnny cash's version of you-know-what. and as is the normal routine for this show, they had a quiz. sadly, I was not in the right time zone, so I missed out on entering. a guy from tasmania and another guy from melbourne were chosen after answering some preliminary questions. one started with a shocker, not being able to pick the song that starts with the line "whatsoever I've feared has...", but they both picked up speed towards the end. one of the two won the contest 4-1. I'm not sure what he won. there were a couple of interesting things said. it was reported by some caller that ben threw his bass into the crowd last night. the guy tried to run away with it, but security caught up with him and took it away. carolyn was on there too, with her request for 'rusty cage', which was cool. I wasn't sure that it was her, but thanks to her post I now know :) some other guy rang in saying that he was dead centre for the show I was at, but I think his judgement was off just a little, unless he was standing right next to me or he was surfing over my head. a girl rang in to say that she chipped her tooth during one show, and another girl called to say that she had travelled down the east coast of australia with a friend and had thus seen soundgarden four times in twelve days. when I later rang to ask if I was too late for the phone-in competition (we are one hour behind here), the lady on the phone answered "oh yeah, sorry. do you want to make a request?" I requested holy water. I spent the rest of the night watching the spurs and the lakers battle while I listened to the broadcast. at one point some guy rang in and requested hater, which I thought was cool. the weird thing was in the dj's response, when he said "oh, and there is a rumour that hater will have a new record out by the end of the year". that struck me as strange. I had a feeling that he must have read that on the faq (call it a faq-sense, if you will). I kept listening to the broadcast and then thought that it would be cool to plug seth's site on the air. I rang a couple of times (the phones were very busy at triple j that night) and finally got through. the same lady answered again, and I said "hi, I requested a song before, but I'd just like to mention the soundgarden homepage on the internet." she says "oh, you're an internet person, are you?" and I answer "yeah, I wrote the faq." well, she went off! "oh god, we have been trying to reach you. can you stay on the line? I wish you would have said that earlier." she seemed very impressed. so I now had a fair idea that they had used the faq and seth's site as an information source. now I just wanted to hear them source it on the air. I can hear the radio playing through the phone. it is weird, because it is an hour ahead. fourth of july is playing. richard kingsmill comes on the phone and says something about "so you're the guy who wrote the soundgarden homepage?" I made sure to straighten him out on that score. he told me to stay on the line, that he would ask me some questions on the air. here is a transcript for those of you interested or not pooped out from that 25-page review I just posted - dj: thanks to mark for some interesting information as well (this is the guy who researched the show and sent me a letter at 8 pm last night asking me if knew a soundgarden expert who could be on the show) which I might just spring on justin at this point in time. justin, how are you? me: good thank you, michael (his name is richard, not michael). dj: which time zone are you in? and which radio station do you belong to? me: dj: don't worry, I won't say anything. it's late at night and I'll excuse you. me: thank you (aren't I polite?). dj: now, have you ever heard of soundgarden performing the doors' song 'waiting for the sun' live on stage? me: um, yeah, they did it at reading in 1995. dj: oh ok, so they have done it before? me: yes. dj: because they did it tonight at the horden (in sydney). me. oh really? dj: someone just rang through and said yes they also did 'helter skelter' by the beatles but just before that they also did 'waiting for the sun' by the doors. me: awesome :) dj: the full version of it, so I was kind of curious as to whether it is a recent addition to the set. me: no, it's been around for a little while. dj: ok. now justin, can we get the pick situation out of the way as well? run through it for us. me: yeah yeah. the guy that had the purple pick earlier in the night (some guy rang in saying that he got a purple pick that was definitely chris') I'm pretty sure that's ben's, because my friend and I we both got one off his bass tech later in the night and they were both purple. dj: and as I said before purple seemed to be his favourite colour. me: and black is chris', and my friend also got an orange one at the big day out which was kim's. dj: ok, now we've got the colour co-ordination. that should settle any arguments and bets at this point in time. me: but I'm sure they're changable. dj: now why do you know so much about soundgarden? me: uh, because I'm on the soundgarden mailing list on the internet. dj: you certainly are and you helped out with a few of the questions tonight on the quiz. thanks very much. me: that's ok. dj: ok, now give people out there the address so if they want to find out frequently asked questions which you have put together, how do they find that out on the net? me: if you have net access you go to a world wide web site at www.sgi.net/soundgarden. and that's the unofficial soundgarden homepage run by seth perlman. dj: and he's based in boston? (I told him that earlier) me: yep, at mit. dj: ok, that's the unofficial one. what's the official one like? me: hmmmm...it's nowhere near as good. dj: of course not. justin, hopefully you'll get lots of hits after that. . me: thank you. dj: ok, see ya! me: goodnight. well, time to stop posting. oh. one more thing. they did play my request for 'holy water'. but in a very twilight zone-like mystery, they attributed the request to justin camileri of burleigh heads, queensland. was that supposed to be me? or is there another big fan of holy water in the area with the same name as me? oh well, at least the song got played :) ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide - words by kim thayil ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: "merlin.dwc@internetmci.com" Subject: catching up on threads Hey. . . a lot of really interesting threads have come up that I haven't yet had the chance to respond to... so here goes. What band member do I feel the most affinity to? Chris, because he writes the most passionate, beautiful lyrics and music I've ever heard, and sometimes I feel as if he's written my own thoughts. It's sorta hard to describe... almost an ineffable feeling. Sometimes you think you're the only person in the world who feels a certain way, that you can't talk to anyone else about it because they wouldn't understand or you just *can't*. . and then you hear a song by someone who's a thousand miles and you've never met, and yet you feel as close to them as your best friend, maybe even closer at that first moment. Does anybody know what I'm talking about? I hope so... it's hard to explain. Also -- about what Carolyn said about Silverchair -- well, I haven't heard Freakshow yet, but I was one of the first people to buy Frogstomp, and it's a great album. After the first time I heard "Tomorrow" I knew they were a good band, and I don't care what anybody says about them, I don't care if all the little trendies mindlessly drool over Daniel Johns. *I* like them, and have for close to 2 yrs now. (Sorry that wasn't SG related) =) ~Lorraine "You're gonna wait til fatboy. . . wait til tomorrow. . ." ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: soundgarden (live in queensland) vol. two... justin the magnificent wrote: >. I'm laughing all the way, because I know that he loves >to get up on the drums during this song, and that we are seeing one of the >most memorable performances of this song, by this band, by any band, by >any band in the history of the world. ...and i'm laughing because i know that we just read the best review of soundgarden, in fact, of ANY band in the history of the world. justin, if anyone deserved this night, it was you. ;-) thank you for taking us all with... - --caryn ------------------------------ From: psyche Subject: *the* song My head's still spinning from reading Justin's last post :) Thanx a lot; that was the longest and one of the most excellent reviews I've read so far. The song that made me realize SG wasn't just another band was Rusty Cage...then Outshined, S&B...umm... JCP. Ok, it didn't take me an entire album to realize I truly loved the band; I'm quite sure it was Rusty Cage. My first SG album was LTL, and even though I like it, it didn't make me buy all their other records. But when I heard Rusty Cage, I just knew. Funny thing was, they first played that on radio.... by mistake. The dj meant to play PJ, and said: 'here's the new single from their recent album 'Ten''..... then proceeded to play Rusty Cage... hehe... right. :) sabrina ------------------------------ Subject: Backstage From: seth Please note the following about Justin's review of his meeting with the band in Queensland: Though I had a very very very small part in arranging the meeting, it was a one-time, never-to-be-repeated thing, something that was partially inspired by a conversation I had with some people in Chicago in November, and my role in it was minimal at best. I will *NOT* entertain requests for further meetings with the band, etc., since I do *NOT* have the power to make these things into reality. Justin happened to be in the right place at the right time. Last Novemeber's gathering was another example of people being in the right place at the right time. These things happen. seth ------------------------------ From: Carolyn Hanel Subject: Soundgarden fever is hitting us hard Down Under I'm listening to (and taping) Aus Somms Listers' favourite radio = station, Triple J, right now. They are doing the "J Files" on = Soundgarden (from 10pm Thursday 30th). It started with the DJ's = favourite song from DOTU, Ty Cobb. The rest of the "Files" will be full = of the history of the band, interview exerpts, and right now they're = playing the 'High Five' - the 5 highest voted songs by listeners today. = I phoned in while I was at work to vote for Rusty Cage. Song number 5 was Spoonman. =20 They're playing song number 4 now - Fell on Black Days. I guess another Aus lister might beat me to this post - again, for the = 4th night in a row, my damn modem gives me the engaged signal so I can't = send or receive mail. :-[ So this will probably have to wait until = morning before I can send it............=20 "This is Chris Cornell from Soundgarden and you're listening to Triple = J". What a damn fine voice that man has! :-) Song number 3 is Burden in my Hand, folks. I wonder will ANY pre-SU = song get in this hot 5? I bet BHS will be number 1. Blind Dog, Little = Joe, Alex, Greg - did any of you guys vote in this??? WRONG with number 1............Black Hole Sun is number 2. =20 Could it be, will it be.......Rusty Cage?? BHS has finished and the DJ (Richard Kingsmill) said that he bets a lot = of listeners thought it would be number 1. He said he's pleased it = wasn't..............and is now keeping us in suspense as to what song = is. Drum roll, please, Matt..................... JESUS CHRIST POSE!! So there you go, folks, that's voted by Aussies. =20 {apparently it won streets ahead of BHS} Time to end this meaningless post now, right? (sorry, I'm just still = hyped up and excited about tomorrow's BDO that I can't go to sleep yet, = and to hear a whole hour or more dedicated to Soundgarden on the radio = is simply amazing, that I just HAD to share it with you all!!) HANG ON! You don't get rid of me so easily. :-P I'm now back after = half an hour - and I was just on national radio!!!! :-O They kept my = phone message today where I voted for Rusty Cage "because it is just so = powerful and full on" and played it on the radio as an introduction to = RC!! At about 10.45 pm. Hell, it gave me a fright. Blair thought I = was talking to him, it took him a while to realise it was coming from = the radio and not from me! :-) =20 Now I'm going to tape the second half of the show (it's been going for = an hour and a half already), which has an interview with Chris in it, = plus many more songs. They're playing songs from as early as the = Screaming Life EP tonight............oh boy it's so good to hear so much = about our favourite band! I think Kingsmill must have been looking at = your FAQ, Justin, for the quiz asked some good questions, like about = Hater, SOMMS, etc. Now I'm REALLY going, Carolyn the Mysterious Flame And I swear to you I would never bring you pain.............Soundgarden ------------------------------ From: Carolyn Hanel Subject: RE: Top 5 SG on J files Lee wrote: >>Am I haveing a good time or WHAT!!! 3 hours of Soundgarden on the radio...nothing else just SG SONGS with a few interviews chucked in :) = how good is this :) Lee, it was great, wasn't it? Of course I just sent off my post - I = KNEW someone would beat me to it (damn modem). Did you hear me on = there? Ooroo, Carolyn the Magical Fluff I got an idea of something we can do with a gun..........Soundgarden ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 3 Issue 27] ***************************************