From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Tuesday, 21 Jan 1997 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 01:56:07 EST Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Tuesday, 21 Jan 1997 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: Random Ramblings Chances Re: Soundgarden Digest, Monday, 20 Jan 1997 pearl jam and a little soundgarden Scariest Song Scary Song Jamie C. hater chords & tabs he's my hiro Bleed Together Some Observations ------------------------------------------------------------ From: "Steven Russell Jr." Subject: Random Ramblings "Early Morning April 4 A shot rings out in the Memphis sky Free at last, They took your life But they could not take your Pride" Hey List! couple quick comments from the eighth floor... 1. Thuggy, you know what must be done. 2. Netscape 4.0b1 has been released...check it out :-) 3. Scariest Soundgarden song: I agree with the majority of the posts..."Beyond the Wheel" hands down. But if you want maximum scarry effect...listen to a live version during a thunderstorm with Chris singing the words to "Hey Jude" thru a megaphone. Steve - - That exit is sold ------------------------------ From: lackluster.hero@thenexus.com Subject: Some people on the list have been trading (or trying to) with me recently, I was supposed to send someone a copy of a video bootleg, and I was supposed to send someone else a Pearl Jam boot. Well..as I'm sure you all know, I've had VERY bad luck lately..(if ya read my post about getting pulled over and all that, dunno if you did cuz it lacked SG content :D) Anyway just now I went to dub the video boot and it was taping fine and all that, well guess what, suddenly it started taping on the actual bootleg, so both copies ended up recording whatever what was on TV at the time, I can't explain it because I'm the only one home and I wasn't even in the room at the time..so I have a disappointed trader and a ruined video boot :( And as for that Pearl Jam cd, I went to buy it and it was gone (I figured it would be..I would have bought it in advance except I am so broke right now it's amazing)..so I'm waiting to hear back from these people to see if they would like me to send something else before they call the whole thing off..like a dub of something else..sigh. Well, the basic idea of this post is that I can be trusted as a trader, please dont think of me as a complete scumbag just because I have had this bad luck lately..I also would like to apologize to those two people..if I could have helped what happened, I would have..but..sigh. SG content? My copy of Reading is ruined..grr..oh, as'well. I can live without it, I suppose..It's not like a CAR or anything. :D Sorry for what happened, and sorry I can't contribute a whole lot to the list lately, I've just been kinda stagnant in the Soundgarden aspect of life :( ------------------------------ From: clindz@wavenet.com (chris) Subject: Chances Things must be getting worse... We went from "Half a chance, we still have half a chance" to "Zero chance of ever turning this around." And if Cash can cover SG, SG should cover Cash... imagine Cornell singing the coolest lyric ever written: "I shot a man in Reno just to watch him die." Peace, chris * * * * * * * * * * "Die, Mint-Eaters!": from the movie "Eat the Rich" ------------------------------ From: Betty Anne Redson Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Monday, 20 Jan 1997 > > From: Karizma291@aol.com > Subject: Headbangers Bowl > > I was wondering if anyone out there recorded Soundgarden hosting the > Headbangers Ball back in '94 when they were at the bowling alley.... If you > do I'd like to "make a deal" to trade or pay for a copy of it.... I saw it > when it first aired and wanted a copy to add to my collection.... Thanks for > any help!! > ~Angela =~) > Actually, I have alittle of this, but not the whole thing. I have Chris bowling, for a couple of minutes, and then him talking. If you are unable to get it from anyone else, then ask me. But I am telling you that mine isn't so good Marie ------------------------------ From: Betty Anne Redson Subject: pearl jam and a little soundgarden About 2 years ago, I got a boot called Pearl jam and a little Soundgarden stolen. I remember this being a pretty good disc, but I may be wrong. Does anyone have a copy of this that they are willing to sell, trade, or tape for me? If someone would I would appreciate it. Marie ------------------------------ From: Betty Anne Redson Subject: Scariest Song I think Beyond The Wheel is defanitly one of Soundgardens scariest songs. But I also think that Jerry Garcias Finger is also a little wierdo. Even though it has no lycrics. But still, Beyond the Wheel is scarier, maybe because of the beginning. Marie ------------------------------ From: KAISERVRBL@aol.com Subject: Scary Song I know this thing has been run into the ground but something occured to me today & I had to throw it out here. I was listening to FDR & the song "Heretic" came on. No one's mentioned it but, "Burn at the stake" etc. are some pretty intense lyrics. OK, I'll never mention scary songs again. Lance "Why doesn't anyone believe in lonliness?" ------------------------------ From: "Jamie C." Subject: Jamie C. just to clear something up: i'm a guy, not a girl. not that it makes a difference, but hey.... listening to AIC Unplugged - -- +jamie c.+ * --------------------------------------------------- * * "in your sad machines....you'll forever stay..." * * (billy corgan) * * --------------------------------------------------- * ------------------------------ From: "Jamie C." Subject: hater chords & tabs anyone here got any official (or un-official) tabs or chords for Hater songs? i'm really curious to see if "Putrid" is really played the way I play it. i got all the lyrics, so all i need are the tabs..... going to see I Mother Earth in 4 days...... - -- +jamie c.+ * --------------------------------------------------- * * "in your sad machines....you'll forever stay..." * * (billy corgan) * * --------------------------------------------------- * ------------------------------ From: eliza Subject: he's my hiro hay folks- i got a small handful of responses for the Truly 10" , so I will pick randomly...it'll be tomorrow since i dont have time to deal with it tonight, so if anyone else is still interested, email me by tomorrow p.m. - --eliza I kick the rocks beneath me I squint at the sun Sad, sad, sad, sad Why must I be sad? 2 wks. and 5 hours till the Handsome cd comes out :)))...hey, it is produced by Terry Date so that was mildly SG related ;-) ------------------------------ From: Minion66@aol.com Subject: Bleed Together Does anyone know how to play Bleed Together on guitar E-mail me if you do. ------------------------------ From: Vasant Ramamurthy Subject: Some Observations Well, thanks to the generosity of Toni, I just finished reading the book "Soundgarden: New Metal Crown" by Chris Nickson. Now I have some comments, observations, and questions after reading it. Yes, I actually took notes on it. And now it's time for something unprecedented on SOMMS: a literary discussion. :-) Sorry if some of you haven't read it; you should, at least so you can rip on it. 1. The book mentions Kim's high school punk band, Zippy and His Vast Army of Pinheads. Do we have any records or demos from them? I know we have something from Identity Crisis, another one of Kim's punk bands, but what about Zippy and Co.? 2. Chris mentions that, as a child, one of his favorite records was Alice Cooper's "Billion Dollar Babies." I suspect this is from where he took the line in "Reach Down": "...crying louder than some billion dollar baby..." 3. Chris is quoted as saying, "Led Zeppelin is just a bunch of stupid idiots who wrote cool riffs." I was surprised after reading that. Did he really mean it, or was he just pissed off at the media's continual comparison of Soundgarden to Led Zeppelin? 4. The author really dissed Alice in Chains, saying they were at first a cheesy glam/metal band, then conveniently switched to the "grunge" style. I didn't really agree with that statement, but anyways, it doesn't warrant discussion on this list. Just an observation. 5. The author seemed to simply brush off "Louder Than Love" as a mistake. That pissed me off because it's such a great album. He made it seem like Soundgarden sold out by making a polished metal album, after a raw, punk-like "Ultramega OK." "Louder than Love" is really meaningful for me because it was the second Soundgarden album I heard, and it reminded me of Badmotorfinger (my first album) with its power and heaviness. It made me go out and get Superunknown. 6. Another thing that really pissed me off was that the author kept stressing this metal thing over and over. It was like he wanted Soundgarden to be a metal band so bad. I say, for God's sake, accept them as they are, and drop the whole musical categorization thing. And he kept on talking over and over about "The Big Thing" and "The Next Big Thing." Highly irritating. 7. The book could've been improved if he talked more about the actual songs and less about the touring. The touring discussion got boring. Also, the book definitely needed more firsthand source material. Every quote was from friends of the band or magazines. Then again, the book was unauthorized. 8. There were a few positives, though. I learned a lot of new facts about Soundgarden. I learned that touring is a bitch and a half. Think about it, going to Europe every other month, getting only a week off, going across the damn country 3 times in a month. Craziness. 9. One thing worried me; I suddenly realized how old this band is. Kim is 36!! That's almost 40. Granted, Ben is still only 28, but still, those 40s are fast approaching for Kim and Matt. I fear there may be only 2 more albums from Soundgarden. But knowing Kim, he'll probably be playing until he's in his 50s. The man is incredible. Really, who knows what they've got left? 10. The book mentioned that Soundgarden jokingly says they based their career on that of Spinal Tap. But when you think about it, it's eerily true. In the movie "This is Spinal Tap," David St. Hubbins' girlfriend Janine controls (or wants to) the band. Susan Silver does the same. Also, both Spinal Tap and Soundgarden have had revolving lineups. At least Soundgarden hasn't had anybody dying in bizarre gardening accidents or choking on someone else's vomit. :-) 11. The book was okay. If you want to learn mostly facts about Soundgarden like I did, it's a good book. If you want musical analysis and concrete quotes from the band, don't read it. That's what we've got SOMMS for. 12. And to close, a quote from Kim that I find absolutely hilarious. "We didn't write hits. We didn't write songs for housewives to vacuum to, and for little fourteen-year-old girls to diddle themselves to while looking at your picture! It just wasn't party music, it wasn't for simple people; simple people buy the Top 40 hits." What can I say? Klassic Kim. Vasant PS - Is it just me, or is the average age on this list getting smaller every day? Not that that's bad or anything. Umm, it just makes it more, uh, interesting. And it's easier to rip on newbies too. Ah, Michael Apple, we hardly knew ye. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Home of the Soundgarden Songbook: http://ctdnet.acns.nwu.edu/~vman/me.html vman@ctdnet.acns.nwu.edu "When new damage comes, it's a new word for plague, a new world order, a new word for hate" - New Damage - S O U N D G A R D E N ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 3 Issue 17] ***************************************