From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Thursday, 9 Jan 1997 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 13:45:14 EST Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Thursday, 9 Jan 1997 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: drawing flies You're wrong, sure you can!, cat scratch fever, Hype!, and many more... SG bootleg Black Hole Snake Lady, and Other oddities Black Hole Sun mystery new bootleg Re: the olsen twins and the case of the missing black hole sun special effects Re: SG cover songs Re: SG bootleg saving my good name SG covers New Metal Crap Australian 2CD Tour Pack Drawing Flies & SNL Aust tour pack - mail order in Australia Soundgarden Tribute Band???? Australian 2CD Tour Pack Re: Drawing Flies & SNL loungegarden Ct. Shows? Fairfax video sg calendar G&R vid/SG vid simalarities & some other stuff AP, baby... feedback from Details SG cover songs Re: Soundgarden Digest, Saturday, 4 Jan 1997 SNL? Re: SG to the Rescue Re: Drawing Flies & SNL Woah Matt!!!! Aust. tour EP. and stuff and things I need help :-) SG cover songs SG live in Dallas, July '94 Re: Woah Matt!!!! Re: feedback from Details Re: SG cover songs i need someone to enlighten me grammies Re: i need someone to enlighten me PN Grammy Nomination oops THE BUDDHA SAYS YOU ARE ENLIGHTENED, MY CHILD. GRAMMY OUT OF CONTROL Canadian Importer of Aussie Tour Pack ROMEO AND HIS BLIND DOGS SG Stuff worth reading Re: PN Grammy Nomination double allergic wheeze... Candlight Lounge? Re: PN Grammy Nomination and the sky to sea... snl the olsen twins and the case of the missing black hole sun special effects/ hel THE INFAMOUS BUTOW SINGLE ------------------------------------------------------------ From: zap@itc.or.at (Sebastian Kienzl) Subject: drawing flies hey, Well...the interpretetions were quite different. :) The only way to find the real interpretation is to ask Chris himself, and I'm not really sure if he still remembers his thoughts when he wrote this lyrics. And that's something cool with lyrics and poems: Everyone has his own thoughts and feelings about it...and everyone interpretes it in an own individual way. Well...this small thought was on my mind. Btw...it's late now and I just finished the SG-part of my homepage...ooooh yes.... :) bye-bye, Sebastian email: zap@itc.or.at (preferably) scream_contact@hotmail.com trek: 37:200/24.5 - --- [the smoke is in our eyes] - -- ------------------------------ From: "Moon Druid" Subject: You're wrong, sure you can!, cat scratch fever, Hype!, and many more... > From: CL Miller > Subject: redundancy and a bad soundman > i definately agree that soundgarden's snl performance was not up to > spex. i didn't really notice it until yesterday, but chris has a good > deal of trouble controlling his upper range. i think that maybe this > could be due to him usually singing very loudly, but he had to tone it > down because of snl's small theatre??? Nope. That's not what it was. You just sing quieter then. Besides, SNL has a VERY big studio. And also, the size doesn't matter. Remeber that other bands sound just fine when playing there. It's not the sound check that was the problem. It's probably just that Chris was having problems that night. He might have been nervous, for some reason. Or he might have had a cold or the flu. It's funny that the original airing of the show didn't get this much discussion. Nor did the second, third, or fourth airing. Fifth's time's a charm, I suppose. Moon Druid - ------------------------------ > From: Natalie Derojas > Subject: Re: SG in Italy > just happy to be watching them,...i mean you can't compare Chris's stage > presence with that of any other performer,...and the band kicks ass, so Yeah... you can compare Chris to other people. He's not god. He's a mortal human being. Think of it. Think of Kiss. Kiss puts on a show up there. Or Zepplin. I bet you could compare Chris's stage presence to that of Plant. > even if he was majorly off key and sounded as course as a horse, i loved > every fucking minute of it, and even waited for them to sing again,...all He wasn't off key. Just struggling a little bit. It wasn't typical Chris. He stayed in a comfort blanket. Maybe he was having a problem... > the while my friends are saying, "this is your favorite band, they sound > like shit!"...I DON"T CARE!...ive heard them live, and they jammed...i was > completely fullfilled after their performance...it could have been better, > but no one is perfect! Thank you!!! No one is perfect!! Sigh of relief. Kim sounded damn good, though. That's the Pretty Noose solo the best I've ever heard it. And Matt kicked ass.... "Haaaaang-iiiiiing froooooom" Moon Druid - ------------------------------ > From: "Steven Russell Jr." > Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Saturday, 4 Jan 1997 > Hey I've heard of this Junk Gun fella. He's was around before the days of > Windows '95 and those long file names....or his name would of been "Junk Gun > Fever". A line in a song only cool people know ;) I think he was sorta Hmmm... Junk Gun Fever... is that like cat scratch fever? > paranoid not to use his real name and was definitely a feeble newbie who was > forced to use an AOL (gasp!) account since his area didn't have an ISP Hey... don't be rippin on those of us that live within our alias. Moon Druid - ------------------------------ > From: Billy > Subject: SNL > I agree with the rest of the list in saying that the SNL performance > wasn't up to par. I guess if I had seen it when It was live I would have > liked it better but after seeing Soundgarden live, not much can compare. > A reason for the poor show was probably the dull SNL crowd who can just > sit in their seats. At least SG overshadowed the rest of the SNL show > which was truly awful. Anyone remember the Rage Agaisnt the Machine/SNL Ehh? I thought it was pretty damn funny. I also liked the singles-club guys introducing the band. > incident? Even though this is a Soundgarden list I hafta say I support > Rage 100%! Thanks. Moon Druid - ------------------------------ > Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Saturday, 4 Jan 1997 > From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) My first reaction was jumping back and up in my chair and mumbling "Shit" :-) Now where's Glenn? Moon Druid - ------------------------------ > From: AntiDog@aol.com > Subject: Grunge is Dying THREAD > Is grunge dying or is the mass, popular audience which embraced the so-called > alternative sound just letting it go and moving onto, say, the new > disco/dance pop stations that are sweeping the country? A recent article in > THE OREGONIAN (Fri, Oct. 25, 1996) correlated PJs record sales figures with > their commerical avoidance. But I think the decline in their sales, though > clearly due in part to their lack of interest in being sold as a packaged > commodity, is also due to the changing desires of the wide, popular audience > which was initially won over with TEN. Seattle grunge can be summed up by listening to Steven J. Burnstien's spoken work poem on the 200 release. > BTW, the PJ figures briefly stated looked like this (from 1991 to 1996): TEN > album sales: 7.7 M, VS: 5.4 M, Vitalogy: 4.3 M, No Code: 829,000. It is > interesting that SGs audience has WIDENED substantially over the same period. Not really. PJ has made themselves less accessable and more "out there". People are just adjusting to Soundgarden and their KICK ASS DRUMMER (did you see that one, Matt?) Moon Druid - ------------------------------ > From: Caryn Rose > Subject: Re: Grunge is Dying THREAD > alternative as a genre is over, grunge is not dying, it has been dead for > YEARS now. the only ones who still use that term are the media (which, > don['t forget, made up the term m in the first place! didn'dt anyone here > see 'hype!' !!!!!) Here we go...somebody I can have a conversation with. Grunge was simply an overnight attempt at turning the underground scene into the next big thing. And it worked too. Nirvana. Pearl Jam. Soundgarden. Tad. Mudhoney. Screaming Trees. Every major record label tried to snap up everything Seattle. And it backfired, in many cases. Pearl Jam decided that they would be their own band, rather than letting a record label decide what they'd do. That's partially Eddie's doing, but what is Pearl Jam without him? Seriously? It's nothing in this corporate world where Eddie's face is in Time magazine and Seventeen. Tad came right out and did what they wanted to do and got dropped from their label beacuse of it. A picture of Clinton holding a joint saying "That's heavy shit, man." was NOT what the corporation had in mind. The Screaming Trees kept on doing what they did best, but it wasn't good enough. Fortunately, they're not too radical for a label to keep, and they're a band that's timeless. The next Led Zepplin? The next Beatles? Watch them. Mudhoney started ripping on their record label the day they were signed. They didn't care what was going on. Just as long as they could have fun. That's not what Reprise bought when they were in the commodity exchange. They wanted hard and powerful grunge... they didn't get it. Soundgarden was going to be the next big heavy metal thing. But they decided that they would do what they wanted to do. And it worked. Badmotorfinger. Then Superunknown pulled in the big bucks and the big sales, keeping grunge alive. With DOTU, they did what they wanted to again. But it wasn't "experimental enough". It's not "what was expected". It's not "good enough". It's too mainstream. Why? Because Soundgarden rewrote mainstream with Superunknown. Now, with DOTU, they're doing what they did before... and it's too simple. But the nails were put into the coffen when the Jesus of grunge pulled the trigger and ended it. So what? In the beginning, the trendy people listened to the New Kids on the Block. For a while, the trendy people listened to Henry Rollins and Tool. Then it turned into Soundgarden and Nirvana and Pearl Jam. Now, it's Bush and the Smashing Pumpkins. Some of us will be trendy, some of us will stick to what used to be trendy, and some of us will listen to what we like to listen to. Moon Druid ------------------------------ From: Judd Pemberton and Erin Kniess Subject: SG bootleg Howdy everyone out there, I hate to post something on this list and end up sounding like a total jackass but here goes. About nine months ago, I was in my local college type record\rare stuff store, and I came across a SG import or bootleg that I had never seen before. Now rest assured that this was not Fresh Deadly Rarities or Stolen Prayers because I have both of those. Anyway, this one was a blue color and it was a close up of Chris Cornell's face. I really could kick my own ass for not buying this one, but I did'nt have the money at the time. Needless to say, when I went back to get it, it was gone. If anyone knows what the hell this CD is, please reply to the list or to me. Thanks for reading this. I will shut up now. "If this isnt making sense, it doesnt make it lies." (Superunknown) I'll post to you later. Your pal in Texas, Judd. ------------------------------ From: lackluster.hero@thenexus.com Subject: Black Hole Snake Lady, and Other oddities if i remember correctly, the black hole sun video first came out on mtv right around the same time i first saw SG, which was june 14, 1994, in rochester... and i'm pretty sure i remember that when the video first got airplay on mtv there was no snake tongue and no girl in a tutu.. and later on when the video was played i would see the girl with the snake tongue and the girl in the tutu.. so, i don't think bhs got censored, i think the opposite happened.. lord knows why they changed the video like that :) or if they didn't change it they musta played the censored version before they began to play the uncensored one.. and i really don't have the faintest idea why mtv would censor a girl with a forked tongue and a girl in a tutu.. just my + :) lackluster.hero@thenexus.com "Piccata! Piccata! Piccatatta tatta!" - Cornholio ------------------------------ From: ANGELA.DRUM@firstunion.com Subject: Black Hole Sun mystery TO: Softswitch.OAS FROM: ANGELA.DRUM@TAOFUN1 SUBJECT: Black Hole Sun mystery What happened with the video to Black Hole Sun is that in their haste to get to the video out, they release it sort of unfinished. They then go back in to add the special effects and re-edit. I've seen this happen on several videos. Incidentally, Pretty Noose was voted NUMBER ONE song of 1996 on South Florida's "real" rock station, ZETA. Ciao babies..... Ang ------------------------------ Subject: new bootleg From: "Shawn David Kennedy" I was at a record store yesterday when I found the new bootleg "Waiting on the Upside." It is actually a decent bootleg. The sound would probably be considered in the A-/B+ range. The only small problem occurs during "My Wave", when the sound fades in and out for a couple of seconds. Other than that, it is fine. I was happy to finally hear SG's cover of "Waiting For The Sun", since they didn't play it in Detroit when they were here, and Lollapalooza didn't make it to Michigan last summer. The bootleg is of the last Lolla show in California. Well, I just thought I would share that with y'all. I'm going back to bed. ------------------------------ From: Taylor Holmes Subject: Re: the olsen twins and the case of the missing black hole sun special effects CL Miller wrote: > was the video for bhs edited for mtv? if so, what was cut out? > > everyone rush to their tv and/or computer and check this out. i hope > that i'm not going completely insane. i prefer my insanity in small, > easy to manage amounts. anyone's input on this thing would be great! > Yes, It looks like the BHS video was edited. When I first watched the BHS version on the 'Hello, We are Soundgarden' compilation, I too noticed that the glamour lady did'nt flick out her snake-esque toungue. I suppose the devils of censorship got their bony little paws on this SG video as well. Thanks, censors, for once again deciding what is appropriate for me to watch! . Later, the Bitter-Cynic, Taylor ------------------------------ From: gene Subject: Re: SG cover songs Count me in! I have myself, my guitars, amps, a couple effects boxes, my singing Doberman, and my computer as a home studio. I've done alot with them. I'd like to do "Jesus Christ Pose", "Room A Thousand Years Wide", or "Half". You know, everyone who does a song can put the clip, .wav, .au or whatever, on their server (if possible) and give Seth the URL so he can link to it. You know, like a Co-Op kinda thang... Taylor Holmes wrote: > > I would put this together there are enough people to participate. As > you said, this will be SOMMSTERS doing their takes of SG songs, but > *not* a promo for a SG tribute band. If done, I think it should be done > primarily for our entertainment. I think it would be cool to simply put > .wav clips on the site so anyone can get a listen, but I know there are > space limitations. So far, i've heard from: > Judd - Slaves & Bulldozers/ Like Suicide > Gregg (cornell ) - willing, but > needs adequate recording facility. > SG tribute Band Guy - ... > Me - Toy Box, FOBD, Nothing to Say, etc... I'm limited because I just > have me and a guitar and a little home studio... > > If anyone else is interested, let me know. Later, Taylor - -- ----- \___/ ----- ; > Gene ------------------------------ From: Taylor Holmes Subject: Re: SG bootleg Judd Pemberton and Erin Kniess wrote: > > Howdy everyone out there, > > I hate to post something on this list and end up sounding like > a total jackass but here goes. No, you don't sound like a jackass... Never feel like a jackass if you have a valid question. We're here to help! ;-) > Anyway, this one was a blue color and it was a close up of Chris > Cornell's > face. Sounds like the SuperMainstream boot. I've got it and it is pretty good (It's no FDR, but what the hell it's SG). Anyway, it's worth getting for the versions of Flower, Beyond the Wheel, and the live Slaves and Bulldozers. Sound Quality is OK, not great. See the Bootleg discography on Seth's page for more details. Hope this helps... Later, Taylor ------------------------------ From: William Robert Walsh Subject: saving my good name no, i'm the one who gave the take on drawing flies. i don't know why people loathe mr apple but i figured i better straighten you guys out that it wasn't him. and thanks deedee, glad someone liked what i had to say. bill ------------------------------ From: cornell Subject: SG covers I would be interested in giving a .wav of my band's cover of a SG song, but we lack the facilities for a decent recording. It would be cool to hear other people's bands, tho. Gregg ------------------------------ Subject: New Metal Crap From: seth I meant to respond a while ago to MoonDruid's statement that a good way of being a fan would be to read Chris Nickson's book, New Metal Crown. I disagree. If you've read through the articles on the website, you've basically already read the entire book. According to the management, the book is a collection of pieced- together magazine articles, and was in no way authorized or endorsed by Soundgarden or Silver Managment. Nickson was allowed into the management's press archive under the pretense that he was writing a thorough article for a discography magazine. He didn't interview anyone for the book and didn't ask permission to write it. Soundgarden was not pleased about the book's release as they would have preferred to choose an appropriate author and release date for a biography. seth ------------------------------ Subject: Australian 2CD Tour Pack From: seth I've been skimming my SOMMS mail for the past few days, because time has been scarce, but I don't think anyone posted the title or track list yet. If you've already seen this, sorry. Delete now. Title: Down Under On The Upside Bonus disc tracks: Jerry Garcia's Finger Karaoke Bleed Together Birth Ritual (original demo) Fell On Black Days (video version) Dusty (Moby mix) It will be available in Australia on January 13 and New Zealand on January 17. seth ------------------------------ From: AvAndrea@aol.com Subject: Drawing Flies & SNL I know these threads are several days old and I apologize, but I'm a Mon-Fri e-mailer AND a digest person so shoot me! Anyway, way back when Lance gave us his interpretation of Drawing Flies which I thought was very interesting. I have honestly never even thought about what this song was about but now I have so much food for thought (I won't even go in to the masturbation theory--that's private:-)). Lance also wrote on that same post: I'm the only person in the world who thinks 'Burden in my Hand' is about the secret nuclear testing in the Utah & Nevada desert in th 1950's (The truth is lying beneath the river bed. Follow me into the desert). Wow. Very intriguing theory. Sorry if you've posted this before--this is the first I've heard of it and, although I'm not sure if this is a good thing or not, I can kinda see where you're at with this, Lance. See, you're not the only fucked up person in the world:-) Anyway, on to the SNL performance. I've never actually *seen* it but I heard it last weekend and...ouch! I had heard that it was, well, disappointing but I was truly not prepared for what I heard. It was really awful, probably even more so because I didn't even have the pleasure of actually *watching* them play and virtually all I could hear was the vocals. I've seen SG live several times and this in no way diminishes my love for them or their music, it's just kind of drag that so many people who had maybe never heard them play live before (and maybe never will again!) had to hear this. Does anyone have any actual facts on why Chris' performance was so bad? Or was it just an off day? Also, when did this show first come on? On a completely unSoundgarden-related note, is anyone else having severe problems facing five days in a row at work after all these damn holidays?!?!? Andrea ------------------------------ From: Georgia Kennedy Subject: Aust tour pack - mail order in Australia Just another piece of info for anyone interested in the Australian tour pack. You could try contacting 78 Records (great store) and use credit card details to mail order direct. Their site address is: http://www.westozweb.com.au:80/home/78records or email them at record78@iinet.net.au. They have a pretty comprehensive mail order section, and Polygram told me to contact them myself re buying the disk. Perhaps a viable alternative for some....... Georgia. ------------------------------ From: glenn king <688120@ican.net> Subject: Soundgarden Tribute Band???? On Jan 6 Taylor Holmes wrote about bands doing Soundgarden Songs. Taylor and others,I am in a Soundgarden Tribute Band in Toronto , Ontario,Canada.(SUPERUNKNOWN). I would like to know what true SG fans think about a tribute to SG. I am a large SG fan and jumped at the chance to join the band(guitar). anyone in the area?(toronto) e-mail me for tour dates, we are working on a web page and i will let you know the address asap GK 688120@ican.net (seth what do you think/ want more info???) ------------------------------ From: lackluster.hero@thenexus.com Subject: Australian 2CD Tour Pack SA>I've been skimming my SOMMS mail for the past few days, because time SA>has been scarce, but I don't think anyone posted the title or track SA>list yet. If you've already seen this, sorry. Delete now. SA>Title: Down Under On The Upside SA>Bonus disc tracks: SA> Jerry Garcia's Finger SA> Karaoke SA> Bleed Together SA> Birth Ritual (original demo) SA> Fell On Black Days (video version) SA> Dusty (Moby mix) SA>It will be available in Australia on January 13 and New Zealand on SA>January 17. Wow.. Everyone who has been running around like chickens with their heads cut off over this CD is probly really angry :) I kind of expected this though.. How many goddam times can they rerelease that FoBD version though? Argh... as'well. But I really pine away for songs like Christi and Cleaning My Gun and Your Curse and Waiting For The Sun on cd.. who knows.. :) lackluster hero@thenexus.com "Are you thinking what I'm thinking, B1?" - B2 ------------------------------ From: ddba@pop.mindspring.com Subject: Re: Drawing Flies & SNL >was it just an off day? Also, when did this show first come on? i think is was May 18, 1996.... DeeDee ******************************************************************************** "Wallowing in my own chaotic, insecure delusions" TOOL http://www.infochase.com/ent/deedee/index.html ------------------------------ From: "Steven Russell Jr." Subject: loungegarden glenn king wrote too much in the subject header: > >Soundgarden Tribute Band???? On Jan 6 Taylor Holmes wrote about bands doing Soundgarden Songs.Taylor and >others,I am in a Soundgarden Tribute Band in Toronto , Ontario,Canada.(SUPERUNKNOWN). I would like to >know what true SG fans think about a tribute to SG. I am a large SG fan and jumped at the chance to join the >band(guitar). anyone in the area?(toronto) e-mail me for tour dates, we are working on a web page and i will >let you know the address asap GK 688120@ican.net (seth what do you think/ want more info???) ;-) Air-un, you'll need to book someone like this for SommsFestConStockVegas97. In the land of Elvis...this just seems right ;-) Steve - - driver 8 ------------------------------ From: Patty Patty Buke Buke Subject: Ct. Shows? Hey all, I'm new to this list, so please bear with me. I was just curious if there is any Soundgarden shows planned for the Hartford, Ct. area? Any help would be greatly appreciated. - --patrick o'brien - --obrienp@ecsuc.ctstateu.edu ------------------------------ From: Chris Cornell Subject: Fairfax video Hey there SOMMSTERS, since I have been away on break the past couple weeks, could someone tell me how to get a the Fairfax video boot? I was at the show and I was very happy to see that a video was made of it. Someone please e-mail me at rpalmer@wam.umd.edu THANKS!!!! Rob ****************************************************************************** "Sleeping with a full moon blanket, sand and feathers for my head, Dreams have never been the answer, dreams have never made my bed." --Chris Cornell-- "Seasons" ****************************************************************************** ------------------------------ From: jax00@ix.netcom.com (Jacqueline Franco) Subject: sg calendar i have looked for this calendar for quite some time now. apparently, no one in florida carried it. everywhere i asked, they would look at me like i was some sort of psycho (which i am but, still) looking for a calendar that doesn't exist. I KNOW IT EXISTS. so, where can i get one? from the fan club, maybe? peace & love, j ------------------------------ From: "Crystal Smith" Subject: G&R vid/SG vid simalarities & some other stuff Hey.....any1 remember that 1 part in the old Guns 'n roses vid "Welcome 2 the jungle" where they have Axl Rose strapped 2 a chair? It reminds me of the BUTOW vid....hes watching TV just like Chris...etc... & anyway Soundgarden ripped off Guns 'n Roses!!!....=) but its done cooler in the BUTOW vid........ Anyway....here's a couple of messages that i thought i'd comment on.... >>Moon Druid wrote: >>Carolyn... I know it's been three years. I know that you use a brand new >>phrase for the MF each time. But it's gotten way out of hand!!! >>Besides, I bet that you and me and seth are the only ones >>that remember the days of "Carolyn the MF" Does that really matter?.....she can't use her name anymore just because nobody remembers the days of "Carolyn the MF"?....hmm... also MF is the initials i use 4 my name "MetallicaFreak"...but... i should call myself SgFreak 4 this list....=) >>About nine months ago, I was in my local college type record\rare >>stuff store, and I came across a SG import or bootleg that I had >>never seen before. Now rest assured that this was not Fresh Deadly >>Rarities or Stolen Prayers because I have both of those. Anyway,this >>one was a blue color and it was a close up of Chris Cornell% ************************************************************ * Crystal Smith * * * * E-mail: metallicafreak@hotmail.com * * Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Alley/7513 ************************************************************ - --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: ShRooMGrLz@aol.com Subject: AP, baby... Well, I was at Barnes & Nobles this evening... and I found a one page interview with Kim regarding what SG thinks of fans. It's in AP (Alternative Press) magazine. No huge revelations in it, or anything. Just the usual facts... and Kim mentions all their heights. Chris - 6'2" Ben - 6'4" And supposedly BOTH Matt and Kim are 6'0". Ummm... I don't really buy that, 'cuz I think Kimbo is a little bit taller.... but does it REALLY matter? ;-) Matt's the little guy in the group. Collective "awwwwwww" people. Heehehehee.... Shroomy And now for a classic: "You want pictures of me in the shower, Shroom? Of course I'll let you take some shots of me!! Tell Caryn to bring her GOOD camera, and you pick up a couple of those waterproof disposable ones." ~ Chris Cornell (Words not necessarily said in that order...) <~~~ my disclaimer ^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^ ^v^ Check out my webpage... ^v^ ^v^ or die a slow and painful death. =) ^v^ ^v^ http://members.aol.com/ShRooMGrLz/shroom.html ^v^ ^v^ Also take a peek at the CC is God page... ^v^ ^v^ ...and the CC pic of the day! ^v^ ^v^ Damn, I'm smooth. =) ^v^ ^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^ ------------------------------ From: Terri Parks Subject: feedback from Details Anyone read the new Details (Feb issue)? Well the letters are in and not to good. Here are a few of em: "I work in a bookstore, and Soundgarden was on the cover of five magazines last month alone. If Chris Cornell is so sensitive and introverted, spending months away from the outside world, why is he on the cover of your magazine? Did you hold him at gunpoint? I think these pretty-boy poseurs will do anything to seel a unit. They are nothing but businessmen negotiating a deal!" "Chris Cornell needs more gel." "Why is a wussy like Chris Cornell gracing your cover? He's not hot, and he sure as hell isn't cutting edge. Who cares if this is Cornell's first solo interview? If this is your idea of a feature story, you have hit rock bottom". MALCOM D. PRINCE Bronx, NY (jealous much) "Chris Cornell is the perfect man. He's handsome, and he keeps his trap shut". Just thought you all would be interested in what some of America has to say about our Mr. C. Terri ------------------------------ From: Judd Pemberton and Erin Kniess Subject: SG cover songs Howdy everyone in sommsville, I was just scanning the list for Tuesday and I think it would be an excellent idea to make a compilation of sommsters doing their takes on their favorite SG tunes. My band "Hell is Other People" could do a kick ass rendition of Slaves and Bulldozers or Burden in my Hand or maybe even Like Suicide if I can muster up enough balls to attempt such a classic "Thayilesque" solo such as that one. Anyway, keep us posted if there are any plans to put together such a compilation. Also, I had a completely warped idea that the whole Superunknown album was drug inspired. I believed that I had discovered the meaning of life (and Superunknown) one night while in a chemically enhanced state. I found that my interpretation of songs like Superunknown and The Fourth of July were way off base when I read in a magazine that Soundgarden are drug free. Hmm.....guess I'll have to come up with another interpretation of those songs. Anyway, who cares, the album kicks ass and that is all that matters. Just thought that maybe someone else thought the same thing at one time. "If this doesn't make you feel, it doesn't mean you've died\If this doesn't take you down, it doesn't mean youre high." Maybe if I muster up some intelligent thoughts, I will post something later. Till then I'll be "sitting here like uninvited company, wallowing in my own obscenity." - -Judd. ------------------------------ From: Psycochicx@aol.com Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Saturday, 4 Jan 1997 S*O*U*N*D*G*A*R*D*E*N is the best band alive !!! I am probably the youngest true S*O*U*N*D*G*A*R*D*E*N fan out there. I'm 13 And I like all of SOUNDGARDEN's Music. I'm not one of those kids who go," Yes I'm A diehard SOUNDGARDEN fan- Blow up the outside and Blackhole Sun are the best songs." Don't get me wrong those are good songs ( all SOUNDGARDEN songs are) But I actually like their old stuff like Little Joe, Beyond the Wheel, Girl U Want ( I know its a cover of of Devo and not theirs) , And Big Dumb Sex. I also like Mind Riot, 4th of July , Just like Suicide< (all of Soundgarden's Songs Kick). Last time I saw SOUNDGARDEN live the Totally rocked I just wished they would have played some of their old stuff. Well if anyone of my fellow SOUNDGARDENISTS would like to write the worlds Youngest true Soundgarden fan please e-mail me at Psycochicx@aol.com or respond on SOMMS. See ya And May all SOUNDGARDEN FANS R*O*C*K O*N!!!!!!!!!!!!!! luv, Psycochicx (c= ------------------------------ From: The Guitarist-2001 Subject: SNL? (yeah, I know it's a little late now, but I'm a bit behind, so bear w/ me) Yes, I've got it on tape (that's how I learned BIMH) and have watched almost all of the 42 times they've showed it (I'm sure it was more than 3...) and lived, and I've been reading all the negative reviews, so this last time I payed a little more attention (though unfortunately I couldn't compare it to the concerts I didn't go to this year...:(..) . . . ok, so maybe Chris' voice wasn't at it's TOP, but look at (or listen to) the rest of the band! I thought that was one of Kim's better solos on Pretty Noose . . . just as good as the record one if not better . . . a bit slower, not as wild as most of 'em, but he used more strings (something I admire when soloing in a tuning like CGCGGE)! (if you folks haven't noticed, the solo on DOTU is technically all on one string except for 1 note...) and Matt didn't seem to bad, though I wasn't paying that much attention . . . I was too busy trying to figure out that fifth (or fourth depending on how you count it) chord of the chorus of BIMH . . . The Guitarist-2001 "Damn you, I said damn My mind is better off dead Damn you, I said damn Who are these voices in my head" - Damn You, Steve Vai, Fire Garden ------------------------------ From: oponfam@cnsnet.com Subject: Re: SG to the Rescue Ronda asked: > Anyways > I was just wondering if there was anyone else who feels better when listening > to SG. All the time, but especially when I'm driving. I love to drive with Soundgarden blasting. Never fails to bring a smile to my face. Kathie ------------------------------ From: Billy Subject: Re: Drawing Flies & SNL Burden in My Hand about nuclear testing sights in the desert thats pretty interesting. It fits with the fact that on the tour, or at least at the show I was at, Soundgarden showed footage of the desert during BIMH. ------------------------------ From: FrkShow911@aol.com Subject: Woah Matt!!!! Chris may not have been up to par that night on SNL, but I agree with Moon Druid in that the rest of the band kicked major ass!!! I'd like to take this time to mention my highlight of the night----definately Matt's performance. Dead on lick after lick, a combination of power and grace and hair that always magically seems to mold back into that signature Mattster dew; all came together as always for a unique and clearly outstanding exhibition. I don't think he's capable of letting anybody down---he's just an abidexterous, super-human creature...what else can I say? He's a legend people!!! ( bowing down to Matt Cameron ) ---Al ---Oh yeah, you can e-mail all objections to FrkShow911@aol.com ------------------------------ From: Lee Christensen Subject: Aust. tour EP. and stuff and things Hey ya, Well I finally made it back to posting to SOMMS after a few too many holidays :) So here I am to give some news I have uncovered about the tour EP/DOTU double: No, it isn't out yet. It comes out next week. And yes there will be millions of copies, so it's not a limited edition thing (much like other tour EP's you can buy IE the Garbage one) but of course it is only a Aust. release, maybe NZ? The shop I called (Skinnys) had no idea of the track listings so still can't help out on that. So we all just have to wait till next week. And I go to Fraser Island next week...hmm stay and pick up the EP or Fraser....the beach wins :) Since I am a bit behind I'll say it now: Hope everyone has had a good holiday and the like. Soundgarden in 2 weeks :) :) wooohooo :) seeya Lee ***** CD of the Week: Damn I need to buy a new cd soon!! "Turn it UP and Play it LOUD let the blood rush to your head!!" "I'm sorry I was cruel, I forgot to kiss you..... " "You know you don't love me but you still want to touch me, Feel my body while I make you feel ugly You want to use me, emotionally abuse me...." ------------------------------ From: Deborah Baker Subject: I need help :-) As some people were complaining that a) they couldn't get a copy of the Soundgarden calendar b) there's too many pictures of Chris (whaaaahh?!) I thought I would have a go at publishing my own version with my free web space, so people could download and print off a month/page at a time. However... I'm using Microsoft Publisher 97 to create my web pages (html does my head in) but they only take GIFs. So far I am having trouble making January(Kim) a reasonable size and reasonable quality. I don't want to go into full details here, but if anyone with imaging experience is willing to help me in this worthy cause :-) please email me and I'll give you more information. Thanks. UKDeb ------------------------------ From: Judd Pemberton and Erin Kniess Subject: SG cover songs Howdy everyone in sommsville, I was just scanning the list for Tuesday and I think it would be an excellent idea to make a compilation of sommsters doing their takes on their favorite SG tunes. My band "Hell is Other People" could do a kick ass rendition of Slaves and Bulldozers or Burden in my Hand or maybe even Like Suicide if I can muster up enough balls to attempt such a classic "Thayilesque" solo such as that one. Anyway, keep us posted if there are any plans to put together such a compilation. Also, I had a completely warped idea that the whole Superunknown album was drug inspired. I believed that I had discovered the meaning of life (and Superunknown) one night while in a chemically enhanced state. I found that my interpretation of songs like Superunknown and The Fourth of July were way off base when I read in a magazine that Soundgarden are drug free. Hmm.....guess I'll have to come up with another interpretation of those songs. Anyway, who cares, the album kicks ass and that is all that matters. Just thought that maybe someone else thought the same thing at one time. "If this doesn't make you feel, it doesn't mean you've died\If this doesn't take you down, it doesn't mean youre high." Maybe if I muster up some intelligent thoughts, I will post something later. Till then I'll be "sitting here like uninvited company, wallowing in my own obscenity." - -Judd. ------------------------------ From: Judd Pemberton and Erin Kniess Subject: SG live in Dallas, July '94 Howdy everybody, Your good pal Judd here in Texas. I was just wondering if anyone has any knowledge, or possession, of a bootleg video of the SG show in Dallas, July of '94. I have seen, on one of the bootleg lists, that particular show listed. I was at the show and it rocked. If anyone has any info about it, such as who has it and how I can contact them, please email me at lizzy@flash.net. I would greatly appreciate it. That is all. - -Judd. ------------------------------ From: Beavis Subject: Re: Woah Matt!!!! Agreed, most heartily. Matt tore up the skins on that particular evening. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "All right you primative screwheads, listen up!" Ash "You're out of order! This whole freakin' systems' out of order! You want the truth?! You can't handle the truth! Cuase when you stick your hand in a pile a' goo, that used to be your best friend's face, then what're you gonna do? Cause its Chinatown!" Homer J. Simpson "You can only be young once, but you can be immature forever." Steven Wright "Sticks and stones may break my bones, but so will an eighty pound carrot." Unknown ------------------------------ From: Taylor Holmes Subject: Re: feedback from Details I hate to bring back up this Details issue again, but I'll comment on some of these quotes... Thanks, Terri for posting these... > "I work in a bookstore, and Soundgarden was on the cover of five magazines > last month alone. If Chris Cornell is so sensitive and introverted, > spending months away from the outside world, why is he on the cover of your > magazine? Did you hold him at gunpoint? > I think these pretty-boy poseurs will do anything to seel a unit. They are > nothing but businessmen negotiating a deal!" Although this person sounds like the same guy who wrote to this list a couple of months ago calling us all poseurs and asking how many of us had SOMMS, I tend to agree in his/her angle here. I wonder if this Details episode and other recent instances reflect another somewhat hypocritical side to SG? Molsongate, anyone??? Can anyone see my point? I know... They're human and I'm over critical... > > "Chris Cornell needs more gel." > ... and more fucking makeup... Ugh... > "Why is a wussy like Chris Cornell gracing your cover? He's not hot, and he > sure as hell isn't cutting edge. Who cares if this is Cornell's first solo > interview? If this is your idea of a feature story, you have hit rock bottom". > Umm... I agree... with DOTU, SG are no longer cutting edge... (Do I dare bring up my 'SG is mainstream' argument again? No.) However, I would've liked to have seen this guy person call Cornell a 'wussy' circa 1991 in person. In general, I think these rather rude letters seem to somewhat comply with my initial reaction to Cornell's Details focus. Actually, I wouldn't have a problem with it if Cornell just did the interview and bypassed the CK-1 photoshoot. Just my opinion. Later, Taylor ------------------------------ From: Taylor Holmes Subject: Re: SG cover songs Judd Pemberton and Erin Kniess wrote: > > I was just scanning the list for Tuesday and I think it would be an > excellent idea to make a compilation of sommsters doing their takes on their > favorite SG tunes. I would put this together there are enough people to participate. As you said, this will be SOMMSTERS doing their takes of SG songs, but *not* a promo for a SG tribute band. If done, I think it should be done primarily for our entertainment. I think it would be cool to simply put .wav clips on the site so anyone can get a listen, but I know there are space limitations. So far, i've heard from: Judd - Slaves & Bulldozers/ Like Suicide Gregg (cornell ) - willing, but needs adequate recording facility. SG tribute Band Guy - ... Me - Toy Box, FOBD, Nothing to Say, etc... I'm limited because I just have me and a guitar and a little home studio... If anyone else is interested, let me know. Later, Taylor ------------------------------ From: "Melissa U. Castillo" Subject: i need someone to enlighten me i need a couple of q's answered so if anyone is up to it, i'd appreciate it: i live in L.A. so why is it that i cannot/could not locate where HYPE is playing? has it been released in this area yet or has it come and gone and i missed it? what is this directory people are talking about? does anyone know if sg is planning on making another home video? (sorry if this has been recently covered, i don't recall reading about it). btw...i read somewhere(SPIN i think) that people are craving now a days a "new" sound that experiments with different types of sounds effects. that's why releases by BECK and such made the SPIN top 20 records of the year (if i remeber correctly the type of list) and releases by groups such as sg did not. (that's the jist of that part of the article). did anyone else happen to read this? Sny comments? (No bashing on what you think of music such as BECK pls, just comments on if you agree with the trend in music) Melissa I've been your mother, I've been your father, who could ask me for more? I've been your sister, I've been your mistress, Baby I was your whore, Who could as me for more? -The Cardigans ------------------------------ From: Stella Rogers Subject: grammies Short note... Just saw on the news that Soundgarden are nominated for a Grammy in "best hard rock" something. I think its preformance but i wasn't paying much attention. Their competition: STP and I think Metallica. stella ------------------------------ From: eliza Subject: Re: i need someone to enlighten me >i live in L.A. so why is it that i cannot/could not locate where HYPE is >playing? has it been released in this area yet or has it come and gone >and i missed it? If anyone is looking for hype! dates and venues, check out http://www.leonardo.net/hype! melissa, it looks like it is playing in LA now at Sunset 5 on Fri. and Sat. midnight only.....and YEAH it is actually coming to Cincinnati on the 31st...(wonder if Larry Flynt will still be visiting our conservative town and wanna check it out ;-) oh and p.s. i *finally* got my BUTOW singles today....well at least there is one thing on there i havent heard *sigh*....they could have at least given us a newer and more exciting poster (hmmm...like a poster of the underwear shot of matt i finally saw ;-)...but i will say that the artwork on the cover and the CDs is cool... eliza "I don't think I really Understand you And I can't see why I'd ever want to And even if it isn't mine to say I'll say it anyway It's ugly" ------------------------------ From: Paul Synhavsky Subject: PN Grammy Nomination this might be old news to some, but today I found out that Pretty Noose was nominated for best hard rock preformance. They are running against Alics in Chains Rage Against the Machine Smashing Pumpkins and Stone Temple Pilots. I wnat SG to win, but i wouldn't be suprised to see the Pumpkins win even though they suck. They are more popular I guess. Paul ------------------------------ From: "Crystal Smith" Subject: oops ok.......... 1. sorry about accidentally sending 2 copies of my last msg. my mail system is kinda fucked up...... & 2. my mail system keeps cutting stuff off.....so i'm re-sending the part that it cut off >>About nine months ago, I was in my local >>college type record\rare stuff store, and I came across a SG import or >>bootleg that I had never seen before. Now rest assured that this was not >>Fresh Deadly Rarities or Stolen Prayers because I have both of those. >>Anyway, this one was a blue color and it was a close up of Chris Cornell's >>face. I really could kick my own ass for not buying this one, but I did'nt >>have the money at the time. Needless to say, when I went back to get it, it >>was gone. woah & u didnt buy it?...that thing is worth thoulsands of dollars & only 25 copies of it was made!!.....u oughta kick urself in the teeth 4 not buying it....... =) J/K!! (means just kidding) Thanks 2 any1 who actually has the patience 2 read my ramblings & i hope it doesnt cut if off this time.... =) - -- SgFreak.... ;) - --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: RMISST@aol.com Subject: THE BUDDHA SAYS YOU ARE ENLIGHTENED, MY CHILD. In a message dated 97-01-08 14:00:50 EST, Melissa wrote: > i need a couple of q's answered so if anyone is up to it, i'd appreciate it: > > i live in L.A. so why is it that i cannot/could not locate where HYPE is > playing? has it been released in this area yet or has it come and gone and i > missed it? Yeah, I missed it too, but that's only because I didn't go. It was playing in LA during the time of its heavy promotion, in Santa Monica, I think. > what is this directory people are talking about? if you go into mailing list(from the home page, I don't remember the adress), go to the bottom of the page, and type in the password. If you don't remember it, don't worry--I've already emailed it to you. > btw...i read somewhere(SPIN i think) that people are craving now a days a > "new" sound that experiments with different types of sounds effects. that's > why releases by BECK and such made the SPIN top 20 records of the year (if i > remeber correctly the type of list) and releases by groups such as sg did > not. (that's the jist of that part of the article). did anyone else happen > to read this? Sny comments? (No bashing on what you think of music such as > BECK pls, just comments on if you agree with the trend in music) I am one of those people craving a "new" sound. I really love Beck's album, because it's not the same song done over again on the same CD! I tired quickly of the new music that came out in 1996. So many copycat 'alternative' bands, it's rediculous! Presently, ska is an 'alternative' sub-category, but now it's slowly becoming pop music too. I presently like it at the moment, though. Rave, techno-ambient--whatever you want to call it--is presently the kind of music with experiments and such. In that respect, it's great. But, as soon as rave music becomes more popular and less 'underground' it will probably become pop music. You hear how KROQ plays Chemical Brothers to their mostly 'alternative' audience? Okay,so how does SG relate? Well, I think that SG is very diverse in sound. I really don't like the fact that they will be popular with this CD for only a short time--MTV and commercial radio will dump them soon enough. Anyway, I think SG is better than most rock bands. They don't have the repetitive riffs(which annoy me sometimes) and sometimes their tunes can be downright weird--I especially like that about the band. I'm having trouble right now describing SG; words suck sometimes. Anyway, SG is a fantastic band. Radical RoseeMisst ------------------------------ From: RMISST@aol.com Subject: GRAMMY OUT OF CONTROL In a message dated 97-01-08 14:10:26 EST, you write: > Short note... > > Just saw on the news that Soundgarden are nominated for a Grammy in "best > hard rock" > something. I think its preformance but i wasn't paying much attention. > Their competition: STP and I think Metallica. > > stella I think it's great that they're nominated. I guess the Grammy folks lost that "heavy metal" category. I don't remember who was in that category last year, but I remember that it was rediculous. The Pumpkins got nominated for 7. With heavy touring and the release of a ton of B-sides(in a cute package) you're bound to be noticed by the Grammy folks! RoseeMisst ------------------------------ From: Chris Mackenzie Subject: Canadian Importer of Aussie Tour Pack For all the Canadians out there... World Music Imports, operating out of Calgary, will be importing the Australian Tour Pack. They don't have it listed in their on-line catalog yet but I e-mailed and inquired, they sent me the following note: "Price including gst, tax, shipping is 48.79cdn delivery will be late january, release january 13th we will not get them until late january due to distance." $48.79 may seem like quite alot, but it is actually probably about the same price that you'ld pay if you were to import it from Australia or the US after the exchange rate... Plus, duty must be paid on items over $20. Their homepage is at: http://www.wmimusic.com/ E-mail: wmi@wmimusic.com - -- Chris Mackenzie - cmackenz@spots.ab.ca - The Unofficial Wellwater Conspiracy Homepage - http://www.spots.ab.ca/~cmackenz/ - "Wellwater tastes better than tap water any day!" - SWRJr. ------------------------------ From: RMISST@aol.com Subject: ROMEO AND HIS BLIND DOGS Some of you out there have the Basketball Diaries soundtrack. Who's on it? I want to order it through Colombia House, but I'm having a hell of a time trying to get through on the net. In your opinion, how good is the whole soundtrack overall? Of course, I want "Blind Dogs", but I also want a good soundtrack. I never even saw the movie(my VCR's jacked up)! Email me privately with info. RoseeMisst ------------------------------ From: Moonsta693@aol.com Subject: SG Stuff worth reading Hello kiddies! I've got some questions. 1) Does anyone know the tab for REACH DOWN? I'm doin' that for a show at school, and I need the tab. 2)what's the password for the directory? I'd like to check it out, plus I need to add things, but I have to check it out first. 3)Is SOMMSVENTION '97 in Las Vegas official? Anyone wiling to persuade my parents to let me go, just come one down. I'd LOVE to go. what's better than spending time with people just like you? :) 4)Did anyone ever see an article or an interview of Ben in a magazine before? How about Matt? I've been looking, but I never found anything. I can't wait for my calender to come. It's my first year I'm buyin', I always used to make my own....(and it featured equal number of picks of the members) "I'm in my Ben mood today....so fuck off!" the original pretty noose (the outkast) ------------------------------ From: Billy Subject: Re: PN Grammy Nomination The grammies suck so I wouldn't get to pissed if they lost. I personally want Rage to win 'cause I love their politics, and they're acceptance spech would be great! Uncensored, of course ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: double allergic wheeze... On Fri, 3 Jan 1997, ADDC wrote: ah, my holiday-enforced absence from somms is over :) but first, a kindly young lady mailed me her take on the lyrics to 'christi' sometime before the christmas break. I have since lost that letter, so if she would send it again (or even have seth perlman place it on his website) I'd appreciate it greatly. better yet, post it to the list, so we can digest and swallow it whole :) > Does anyone want to begin speculating on what b-sides are > going to be on their next single which is supposed to be Dusty > (right?).. those of us who look negatively upon the band's choices for recent b-sides (myself included) will point to old favourites like kyle petty, birth ritual or fell on black days in some incarnation. most of the singles from dotu have featured (imho) a fairly poor selection of non-album tracks, so the next single may follow this rather frustrating pattern. if you are, however, an optimistic listener, there are a few songs that *may* turn up on the next single if we all cross enough fingers; songs that have been performed live or have been mentioned by the band in various interviews. the titles I can remember off the top of my head read: 'anxious', 'sounds like days', 'christi', 'search and destroy', 'waiting for the sun', 'ocean front', 'your curse' (?), and 'cleaning my gun'. some of these are more likely than others, but time will tell if any of them are likely at all. recently I thought that the band were releasing these old b-sides in place of new ones simply because they were hoarding their new songs for a new album (which all four members seem enthusiastic to record). but I read in _juice_ magazine last week that writing for the next record has not yet begun, so maybe none of these songs (studio version or otherwise) will ever see the light of day :( interesting observation: if you are an australian lister, walk into your nearest newsagency and take a flip through said _juice's_ coverage of the big day out's history. therein lies a quaint little picture of (left to right) johnny ramone, kim thayil, ben sheperd, james iha and d'arcy. cool enough, right? well, the rather comical part is the caption, which reads "...kim thayil, some guy, james iha...". kinda weird that they didn't recognise him, since the magazine also sports a three page article on the band with the requisite full-page photo :) ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide - words by kim thayil ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Adrianne Daniel Wilson Subject: Candlight Lounge? Umm, I live in KS, and a friend of mine is friends with this guys who says he used to hang out with sondgarden at the Candlight Lounge (ithink that is what it was called) And I am kinda iffy on this guy, and I wanted to know if anyone know of this place, and if SG used to play there? Thanks, Adri ------------------------------ From: KAISERVRBL@aol.com Subject: Re: PN Grammy Nomination Not that it matters, but to me it's almost kind of insulting to be nominated for a Grammy. The Grammy awards are a totally money "flavor of the moment", that celebrates the shit that ruins good music(i.e. commercialized, homginized, lobotimized horse shit to be consumed by our mostly braindead & lethargic society) Soundgarden, it's members, & it's music, reflect none of these things. I think I would have preferred it if they had been skipped this year. Let Whitney Houston, Micheal Bolton, Phil Collins, and the rest of the mundane crowd have their mean nothing awards. But that's me. I'm a soundgarden snob who misses the day when 9 out of 10 people responded Sound-"who????" Lance "Why doesn't anyone believe in lonliness" ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: and the sky to sea... On Mon, 6 Jan 1997, Mandy Crook wrote: > SG content........do ya think SG will program RAGE when they are here? hope > so! there is an excellent chance of that happening, mandy (for those outside australia, _rage_ is a music program that airs during the wee hours of the morning and routinely has touring artists come in and program up to three hours of their favourite videos/music). chris seemed to enjoy doing it last time, and ben seemed to enjoy making a fool of himself in front of the camera (he was wearing a 'hey-ho' ramones shirt, took dramatic pulls from his can of coke, danced in front of a mirror, made like a horror film bad-guy by placing his face above a lampshade and practiced his seaman hand signals while chris calmly talked about the video-making process). I may have said this before, so if I'm boring you with the same old hokey information, please disconnect now. the weekend that chris was scheduled to program _rage_, he didn't do the normal thing. hmmm...I'll start from the beginning (but I'll try to make it short). friday night is reserved for new videos, saturday is for guest programmers and specials (sadly, I missed the seattle night). most times the clips picked by the musician/band is interspersed with short intros or witty stories furnished by the programmer. on the saturday that chris was on, quite a few songs were played. I didn't take great note of what they were at that point, because I wasn't quite the fan I am now . the songs didn't seem to have a common thread, but they also didn't seem to be songs that chris would choose. the odd thing was that chris didn't appear to lend any interesting intros or comments. what followed was partly normal - the programmer's available music videos (no, flower musn't have been released here) are played in chronolical order. unlike any other edition I've seen, it was during *this* part that chris spoke; not about his choices of music but about his *own* music and the relevance of music videos to the music industry. perhaps the program's chief realised an interview would be cooler than having just go "this is a good song, blah, blah, blah"? this post is probably a lot longer than it should have been, but I'll just add two things. first, in another interview with chris conducted while they were here in 1994, he said that there was no way he could pick his five favourite songs or five songs that changed his life, so maybe the songs that preceded all the soundgarden videos that night weren't of his choosing. secondly, if someone from the band were to do it again, for this reason it probably won't be chris (I would personally like to see _rage_ programmed by ben or kim). if someone from the band *does* end up as guest programmer, some australian lister is sure to write down the songs played and words said so that all sommsters may know them :) ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide - words by kim thayil ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ Subject: snl From: joi16@juno.com Hello. This is the first time I ever posted. (tee hee) I hope no one's sick of this subject yet, well I'll keep it short. Anyway, what was I gonna say? Oh yeah I thought They sounded beautiful except for Chris's voice especially on Pretty Noose. I think his voice has to be in 100% tip top condition because that's probably one of the hardest Soundgarden songs to sing and I think Chris is the only person in the world who has the ability to sing that song. No one else can sing that unless they used their head voice but that would be like cheating. Okay, that's all sirs and madames. joanne ------------------------------ From: eric & staci Subject: the olsen twins and the case of the missing black hole sun special effects/ help with lyrics. Well, I just ran to the T.V. and watched my BHS video that I managed to record off of MTV many years ago and I saw what I thought I remembered: 1. I do have the lizzard tongue in my copy. There is a close up on the glamor lady's face then the camera backs up and out comes the lizzard tounge to snatch the fly. 2. Yes, at the end a big glob of shiny black goo floats out of the baby carriage up to the "hole" 3. Apparently it was edited at some time. My own comment is that this video creeps me out every time I see it. Creepy. Anyway, help me out guys: "Throw yourself away Give me little bits of, more than I can take if it sits upon your tounge or naked in your eyes give me little bits of, more than I can try." Does anyone know this lyric? It isn't any Soundgarden song I've ever heard but I don't have them all. I've been wracking my brain but I just don't know (even thought it seems familiar). It kinda sounds like a Tool song I've heard, dee dee? Any input would be appreciated. Staci ------------------------------ From: RMISST@aol.com Subject: THE INFAMOUS BUTOW SINGLE In a message dated 97-01-08 15:47:26 EST, eliza wrote: > oh and p.s. i *finally* got my BUTOW singles today....well at least there > is one thing on there i havent heard *sigh*....they could have at least > given us a newer and more exciting poster (hmmm...like a poster of > the underwear shot of matt i finally saw ;-)...but i will say that the > artwork on the cover and the CDs is cool... > > eliza I plan to get my BUTOW single this week. Living in LA, it shouldn't be too hard to find. But what do you mean 'newer and exciting poster?' I've been to Tower and I haven't seen it yet. And what is this underwear shot of Matt? I would really like to see that--where did you see it? you also pluralize "CDs". Is there more than one version of the BUTOW single? RoseeMisst ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 3 Issue 8] **************************************