From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Monday, 6 Jan 1997 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Mon, 06 Jan 1997 02:48:16 EST Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Monday, 6 Jan 1997 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: wha the hell? SOMMS superstar! Re:Drawing Flies redundancy and a bad soundman meeting sommsters/snl/stuff Re:SG Compilations DEADLINE!!!!!!!!!! Re: Soundgarden Digest, Saturday, 4 Jan 1997 Member directory STuFF Re: Soundgarden Digest, Sunday, 5 Jan 1997 snl Re: Soundgarden Digest, Saturday, 4 Jan 1997 sg calendar Re: Soundgarden Digest, Saturday, 4 Jan 1997 Re: SG in Italy $$$$$ Re: SETH PERLMAN, PLEASE RISE ( AND OTHER RAMBLINGS) SETH PERLMAN, PLEASE RISE ( AND OTHER RAMBLINGS) Re: Soundgarden Digest, Saturday, 4 Jan 1997 SNL agh drawing flies Re: Soundgarden Digest, Saturday, 4 Jan 1997 Re: Member directory Grunge is Dying THREAD Re: Grunge is Dying THREAD ------------------------------------------------------------ From: "Crystal Smith" Subject: wha the hell? I just sent something 2 SOMMS.....& it cut off part of my message & it really makes me look stupid.....ok anyway the point was i dont have any SG rare or live stuff.... & i would like 2 trade...if anybody is intrested in these bands...some of my Smashing Pumpkins or Metallica stuff 4 it......soooo....i hope this 1 doesn't get cut off this time... Crys - --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Deborah Baker Subject: SOMMS superstar! Opened this week's Kerrang to find a letter from none other than SOMM's very own Gemma Lewis!! For those who are new to the list, or whose short term memory has been shot to hell by too much Christmas revelry, Gemma won a competition to meet Soundgarden at their Brixton show in September. The *very lucky* girl very kindly posted her experiences to the list and you can find the pictures on Seth's page. Basically, the letter was a thank you to Kerrang and a strong declaration that Soundgarden are defintely not miserable and Susan is really nice(which of course *we* sommsters know). A teeny tiny pic of Gemma and the band was included. The typically Kerrang-style headline was 'Soundgarden "not miserable" shock!' UKDeb ------------------------------ From: Deborah Baker Subject: Re:Drawing Flies Lance wrote: >I think he's talking about the process he goes through to write a song & the subject >matter that seems to come out on the page............ I'm with Lance and Carolyn on this one. In fact, I believe Lance's interpretation of the lyrics is also the 'official' one. But Bill's take on the song was certainly food for thought! We've said before (and no doubt will again) it's what *you* get out of the lyrics that matters. But it's kind of funny to me that it's not we Chris-obsessed hootchies who see a strongly sexual element in Chris' lyrics. (Remember the infamous Mr Apple's ideas about the meaning of Black Hole Sun?!) Or maybe we're just not saying ;-) UKDeb ------------------------------ From: CL Miller Subject: redundancy and a bad soundman sebastion. . .it's great to have you here, but is it necessary to post 10,789,332 messages per digest? i definately agree that soundgarden's snl performance was not up to spex. i didn't really notice it until yesterday, but chris has a good deal of trouble controlling his upper range. i think that maybe this could be due to him usually singing very loudly, but he had to tone it down because of snl's small theatre??? of course, i'm probably full of goat droppings. does anyone have a tower records nearby? if so, please e-mail me with their phone number! i am looking for a cd (non-soundgarden...sorry) that they are the exclusive carriers of. i live on the east coast, and no one here knows where the nearest one is. much appreciated! tanx. ------------------------------ From: UnknownFan@aol.com Subject: meeting sommsters/snl/stuff hey guys-- just wanted to echo eliza's post of a few days ago. we got to meet over new year's, and it was very cool. she was a trooper hanging out with a bunch of people she didn't know (from the afghan whigs list) and listening to new music--glad i caught her in one of her sg "down times"! since i joined this list (october?), i have met sean (hey, are you back on the list yet?), karen and sandy, mariana and now eliza. to me, meeting fellow fans is one of the best things about this list. speaking of which, is anyone in washington, dc going to the girls against boys shows at the black cat?--if so e-mail me privately and let's meet. :-) i caught sg on snl last night. i agree that chris' voice was not in top form (i also guessed that he was nervous), but the rest of the band seemed fine, and i liked the rendition of burden, aside from the vocals. lastly, 3 holiday additions to the my sg collection include: the black hole sun import with jcp and my wave live and the spoonman remix, the pretty noose limited edition 7" (thanks scott), and "groovy reaction", a 7' recorded live in san fran in '89 with gun and thank you. hope you all had a nice holiday...back to work for me tom'w...darn! laura ------------------------------ From: KAISERVRBL@aol.com Subject: Re:SG Compilations DEADLINE!!!!!!!!!! OK gang. Everybody keeps telling me they want tapes but I haven't received a single order yet. Anyway. JANUARY 16, 1997 IS THE DEADLINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That is the last day I will take orders for Volumes 1 & 2 of "From the Mouth of Decadence. And when I say the last day I don't mean E-mail requests. That means getting your order at my house via snail mail on Jan 16th. So here's the info one last time. Send $6 (Check, cash, MO, whatever is easiest for you) for *BOTH* volumes to: Lance Huber 1196 Waterside Cove #33 Midvale, UT 84047 Thanx Lance "Why doesn't anyone believe in lonliness................" ------------------------------ From: "Moon Druid" Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Saturday, 4 Jan 1997 > From: Rebekah Henderson > Subject: Answers and questions > I read in New Metal Crown or the Cd book (I don't remember which one) that > Ben had a daughter. Is this true? He just doesn't look like he would have > a kid. C'mon... playing the bass is his job. Just like some people are accountants and others are teachers. He's allowed to have one. Think of all the others that didn't look like they'd have a kid but still do. > May Soundgarden be with you. They're just a band!!! They're not a religious movement or a mystical creature from the depths of space! Moon Druid - ------------------------------ > From: CL Miller > Subject: newly damaged singles > someone mentioned that dusty will be the next single Highly doubtful. I havn't heard anything about it. Better chances of Tighter & Tighter or Overfloater. Moon Druid - ------------------------------ > From: jacquep@bmtc.mindspring.com (Jacque Phillips) > Subject: Soundgarden on SNL > I have heard that Soundgarden will be performing on > Saturday Night Live tonight. Sorry if i'm wrong, but that's what i heard. Yeah... old rerun. Speaking of it, though, I didn't think Chris was really on his game that night. Moon Druid - ------------------------------ > From: Carolyn Hanel > Subject: RE: drawing flies ** Bill Walsh suggested that 'Drawing Flies' is about: ** his obsenity is his lustful desire for women. the song, Drawing ** Flies, is about masturbating to a pornographic magazine.............. * Caryn mentioned that she hadn't thought of it like that before. > Well, I hadn't either! (maybe we're too sweet and innocent) ;-) > Reading through the lyrics just now I can see why Bill thinks the way he > does. Firing canons, bathed in perspiration, firing pistols - hmmmmmmm. I don't think it's about masturbation. I just don't. Maybe suicide... maybe depression... maybe it's about writing lyrics, actually. Think about it... most of the time, writing lyrics for songs isn't an easy thing to do. So, line by line (sorry)... I should be somewhere else right now "Jesus Christ... why can't I get a good fuckin' verse" Still sitting around... looking at what I've crossed out, doodleing... Sweating because it's hot... a song about who I hate? Was inspired, but it's made me feel like this Writing down really emotional song lyrics Leaning on the table that has the piece of paper on it Firing off those thoughts again... anti-religious... (Holy Water) Still sitting around... looking at what I've crossed out, doodleing... "What'd you say, Susan?" "I don't have a condition, I just wanna' get this done!" "I'm not enjoying being anti-social... really." "Thanks... good comparison of lyrics and me to co-addiction" "Wait... say that again about my condition?" Lyrics mirror his self-affliction Leaning on the table that has the piece of paper on it Firing off those thoughts again... anti-religious... Still sitting around... looking at what I've crossed out Doodleing... > Carolyn the Murky Feline Carolyn... I know it's been three years. I know that you use a brand new phrase for the MF each time. But it's gotten way out of hand!!! Besides, I bet that you and me and seth are the only ones that remember the days of "Carolyn the MF". Please! Stop! MD (Mainspring Droll) ------------------------------ Subject: Member directory From: seth I don't know if anyone ever looks at the member directory any more, but it's been kind of stagnant lately (except for a few additions of people with photos). This is mainly because I'm trying to figure out which of the people in the directory are actually still on the list -- I always forget to check when someone unsubs. I have about 40 people to add, I just haven't gotten to it yet... :) So if you've sent me something for the directory as far back as September, it *will* get added -- eventually. seth ------------------------------ From: ShRooMGrLz@aol.com Subject: STuFF Sabastian wrote: >ohya..and please don't kill you cause Ben has a child and is married Ummm... yeah, Ben has a little girl. But he's *not* married. He's got a girlfriend, though. SG's fuzzy bassist. Gotta love it... ;-) >But it's kind of funny to me that it's not we Chris-obsessed hootchies who >see a strongly sexual element in Chris' lyrics. Anyone remember the interpretation of "Kickstand" that I pulled from the SG newsgroup earlier last year? ;-) Now *that* song has some sexual connotations, if I've ever heard any. ;-) "I got a saddle made of leather..." "I got the urge to ride your trike..." Woobaby! ;-) Sing it Chris! As to the SOMMSfest '97... and SOMMStock... count me in on all of it, kiddies. =) OK isn't that far from me, and I can find a way to get to Vegas again. ;-) I can't wait to meet more of my fellow SOMMSters. And I'm going back to Seattle in March... so I guess I've got alot of stuff to look forward to, hmmm? And on to old stuff that I hadn't responded to yet: Rosee wrote: >wonder what the Gardeners are doing this night...they could be: >a) checking out the naked pictures of Chris >b) trying desperately to find shroom's phone number >c) Matt's looking up posts to see if we say anything bad about him >(he'll kick our ass!) >d) while drunk, Chris searches with his good eye closed while looking >for his wedding ring >e) trying extremely desperately to find shroom's phone number >(and maybe naked pictures!) >f) stalking down Gavin Rossdale Hahaha!! That was too funny!! I *knew* I should've stayed home that night, damn me! ;-) Naked pictuuuuuuuuuures.... And that Beavis & Butthead thing almost killed me! Ha! Thanks, Rosee! =) Thanks for everyone who posted their "best of '96" top ten lists. =) I got a kick out of 'em. I thought that instead of posting my '96 review, I'd use my psycho...uh... psychic powers to post the "Best of '97." These are a few of the things we have to look forward to this year: - ----------------------------------- - - Soundgarden sets up a photo shoot with the official SOMMS hootchie, Shroom Girl, to finally pose nude. Chris and Matt strut their stuff totally in the buff, and Ben goes so far as to strip down to his undies. Kim removes his shirt, but declines to go any farther because (as he secretly confides to the hootchie) he thinks that he has chicken legs. =) - - Soundgarden's popularity soars, but they decide to forgo playing in arenas in favor of a club tour. SOMMSters are given first dibs on tickets for each show. =) - - Seth is hired to take over the official SG website, but he keeps up the unofficial site anyway. He adds a section for naked pictures of the band, which are thoughtfully provided by the SOMMS hootchie. =) - - The KTMS is refused private funding from various parties, so the SOMMS sheriff introduces a full line of KTMS clothing and riot gear. Immediately, every MTV VJ is seen with KTMS cotton towels (used for snapping at annoying persons), KTMS gas masks (the latest rage in Paris), and KTMS stun-guns (for use on annoying lead singers who whine too much). The KTMS rakes in millions, and our Thuggy gets to personally oversee the breaking of Heather Mifflin's kneecaps. =) That's all for now, kiddies... more later. Shroomy "Tie me up and beat me, I'll always beg for more..." ~ Peter Cornell (From "So Sad" on Inflatable Soule's "So Sad" CD) ------------------------------ From: "Moon Druid" Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Sunday, 5 Jan 1997 > From: zap@itc.or.at (Sebastian Kienzl) > Subject: Stuff > Why Grohl? I mean - I've read the biography and it said Kurt always wanted to > become a big rockstar (he dreamed of it as a child - I don't remember if he > still dreamed of it as an grownup - but I remember he said "We wanna become > BIG" and such stuff) and as far as I remember, Novoselic has been the > "buisness-man" in Nirvana. Well...maybe I'm wrong, but you shouldn't claim > Grohl is a "I'll-do-anything-for-a-buck drummer". I'm no great Foo Fighter-fan > (SG is my fav of course ;) but I really like the way he plays drums and the > energy he has on the InUt and the Nev record.....well, I just wanted to defend > Grohl :) Okay... okay... I see your point. But as soon as... wait... no... this is the SOUNDGARDEN MAILING LIST.... God, I'm glad I caught myself there... Moon Druid > ------------------------------ > From: zap@itc.or.at (Sebastian Kienzl) > Subject: Soundgarden-bible > Well...maybe I think it's exxagerated cause I'm a male...but my honest opinion > is (skip the following lines if you don't wanna know) that it's quite trashy. I > mean...hey! SG is no boygroup!! I love SG cause of their music and not of the > way the look and they are....really!! And you describe em as gods and so > on....maybe you're just crazy or it should be funny I dunno. Thank you. I agree fully. Soundgarden is a band. They make music. They happen to make great music. There's no reason to idolize them though. And I'm also really sick of this Chris worship. Actually, I've got a bootleg from somewhere in the UK. In between songs, a woman screams out "Take your shirt off!" all the time!!! Over and over!! UGH!! "Take your bloody shirt off, Chris!" It's on the Real Wild Children boot, for those of you that are interested. Great boot, PS. At the beginning of "Beyond the Wheel" on the second disc (first concert on that disc), he sings a part from "Stairway to Heaven". And anyway... why can't you all be Ben groupies like Jamie (is she still here?) Moon Druid > ------------------------------ > From: Joe Cennamo > Subject: Re: snl > I taped it the first time that they showed it. I think it's the worst I've > ver sen Soundgarden. Chris's voice was awful. I wonder if he was nervous? > He was fine at lolla. Thank you. I agree fully. And good point about nervous. At the end of Pretty Noose, he put his hand to his heart... usually a sign of "Thank god this is over." But Matt was damn good. I think it's funny how he played with his mouth open. He's kinda like the Michal Jordan of drums. (in more ways than one) Moon Druid ------------------------------ From: Karizma291@aol.com Subject: snl I was only able to catch a glimps of the snl show when it originally aired . . . I was wondering if anyone has recorded it . . . If so would you be interested in sending me a copy . . . E-mail - Karizm291@aol.com if able to help :~) ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Saturday, 4 Jan 1997 From: seth > > Carolyn the Murky Feline > > Carolyn... I know it's been three years. I know that you use a brand new > phrase for the MF each time. But it's gotten way out of hand!!! Besides, I > bet that you and me and seth are the only ones that remember the days of > "Carolyn the MF". On the contrary, MoonDruid, this list will only be a year and a half old on January 28, and there are *plenty* of people who have been subscribed since Day One. Why, I remember not so long ago there was a guy on the list named JunkGunF... whatever happened to him anyway? :) seth ------------------------------ From: jax00@ix.netcom.com (Jacqueline Franco) Subject: sg calendar i have looked for this calendar for quite some time now. apparently, no one in florida carried it. everywhere i asked, they would look at me like i was some sort of psycho (which i am but, still) looking for a calendar that doesn't exist. I KNOW IT EXISTS. so, where can i get one? from the fan club, maybe? peace & love, j ------------------------------ From: Geoff Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Saturday, 4 Jan 1997 seth wrote: > > > > Carolyn the Murky Feline > > > > Carolyn... I know it's been three years. I know that you use a brand new > > phrase for the MF each time. But it's gotten way out of hand!!! Besides, I > > bet that you and me and seth are the only ones that remember the days of > > "Carolyn the MF". > > On the contrary, MoonDruid, this list will only be a year and a half > old on January 28, and there are *plenty* of people who have been > subscribed since Day One. Why, I remember not so long ago there was a > guy on the list named JunkGunF... whatever happened to him anyway? :) > > seth Yeah, maybe the list is only a year, and a half old, but it feels like I've been here for 3 years. And what DID happen to JunkGunF??? Geoff ------------------------------ From: Natalie Derojas Subject: Re: SG in Italy Hey there! This weekend i made a big issue of the fact that i wanted to see SG on tv,...they were on the SNL show,...and so all my friends that had nothing else better to do watched it with me,..........it just so happens that this was the worst performance SG has ever given,...Chris's voice was aillen (means it was really bad)...he sang pretty noose pretty horribly...but it happens to anyone, and the bottom line was that i was just happy to be watching them,...i mean you can't compare Chris's stage presence with that of any other performer,...and the band kicks ass, so even if he was majorly off key and sounded as course as a horse, i loved every fucking minute of it, and even waited for them to sing again,...all the while my friends are saying, "this is your favorite band, they sound like shit!"...I DON"T CARE!...ive heard them live, and they jammed...i was completely fullfilled after their performance...it could have been better, but no one is perfect! lots of SG love, Natalie ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: $$$$$ well, it was time for the semi-annual 'clean out the cd's and get rid of the garbage' routine. i had three boxes and then some of stuff (25 cd's per box) and so we trekked out to the store with the best soundgarden selection in the known world (whose owners are HUGE fans and matt's even been out there). got like $150 for the stuff and found the tone dogs cd used for $8 (!!!!!!!)... but the BIG purchase was... i finally bit the bullet and bought my very own copy of the sub pop singles club single, 'room' b/w 'hiv baby'. NO, not the grape one, just a black one, but *sigh* it's mine now ;-) he even knocked $5 off the price so i got it for $55, quite a steal if you ask me ;-) btw, if ANYONE still wants a clear vinyl version of DoTU, he's got a HUGE stack of 'em. lemme know. also, i haven't been able to verify this and i don't recall it being discussed -- the store dude said that the early skin yard stuff w/matt on drums had recently been re-released! said it sounded really cool. anyone else know about this/heard this? (shroom and dena -- we WILL make it out there this time, i PROMISE. i warned him to stock up on sg stuff for the first week of march ;-) ). - --caryn ------------------------------ Subject: Re: SETH PERLMAN, PLEASE RISE ( AND OTHER RAMBLINGS) From: seth > I saw SETH PERLMAN, in a tux, sticking cheese or something in > his ear. i mean, if it wasn't him, it was his twin.....sideburns, ponytail, > facial features, everything. so my first question is: did anyone else see > this and can they verify my spotting, and number two, to SETH: what do you > have to say for yourself? I almost hate to disappoint you and deny that it was me, but alas, it was not me. I never stick my food in my ears. I've been known to store food in my nose for the winter, just in case I get stranded in the cold, but never my ears. :) seth PS - I'd like to meet my twin one day. ------------------------------ From: josephb3@maui.netwave.net Subject: SETH PERLMAN, PLEASE RISE ( AND OTHER RAMBLINGS) WELL, it sure has been a while since i posted the list, considering my winsock was somehow lost, and i simply refuse to mess with netscape mail, plus with the holidays and everything.....so happy belated holidays to everyone at SOMMS..... Secondly, I'm sitting around today, watching football all day, filling kind of under the weather (can you blaim me, 64 in chicago yesterday, wind chill of 15 today : ( so anyways, i'm watching a show on FOX, right after the cowboys got their felony-ridden asses kicked, and a show called "The World's Funniest Party Disasters"....a really cheeseball type home video show, like the other ones fox broadcasts.....so at the end, there's a home video clip of a group of guys at a wedding, performing this disgusting ritual of putting food in their mouth, sticking it in their ear, then spitting it out and passing it to the next guy, who eats it, and unless my bedridden eyes deceived me, I saw SETH PERLMAN, in a tux, sticking cheese or something in his ear. i mean, if it wasn't him, it was his twin.....sideburns, ponytail, facial features, everything. so my first question is: did anyone else see this and can they verify my spotting, and number two, to SETH: what do you have to say for yourself? Switching back to NBC, BiG JOe - --------O But it all makes such Sense to me i need room to breathe I work for the goals that i set Wasted time it weighs on my mind You can bet I can't wait one minute more - -----CIV ------------------------------ From: "Steven Russell Jr." Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Saturday, 4 Jan 1997 At 06:05 PM 01/05/97 EST, you wrote: > >On the contrary, MoonDruid, this list will only be a year and a half >old on January 28, and there are *plenty* of people who have been >subscribed since Day One. Why, I remember not so long ago there was a >guy on the list named JunkGunF... whatever happened to him anyway? :) Hey I've heard of this Junk Gun fella. He's was around before the days of Windows '95 and those long file names....or his name would of been "Junk Gun Fever". A line in a song only cool people know ;) I think he was sorta paranoid not to use his real name and was definitely a feeble newbie who was forced to use an AOL (gasp!) account since his area didn't have an ISP .....but, well I've heard he's taken the same route Captain Tuttle did after saving the Korean family in the village 10 clicks from Seoul....He's cashed out his chips and headed for greener pastures....or was that snowier pastures? Gotta check the wind... Then again...and I believe this was very recent - I heard he was spotted in Fargo, *South* Dakota, filling out credit card applications for Bob Dole, Neal Knox and Newt Gingrich and using those cards sent to his various po box's around the Dakota's to fund his very dangerous militia group, the _Gunny Junk's_. Who, and here is the *Soundgarden content*, was a one time roadie for Soundgarden. The GJ's, according to various intelligence reports given to Monica (a one time mercenary), wanted to annex every golf course east of the Mississippi and use the land to grow cannabis for the people of California thereby cashing in on that state's latest passed Proposition. Obviously someone of his intelligence (and wit) should be considered armed and dangerous. The best course of action would be to let him fade away like Vixen, Romeo Void and Morris Day. Giving him attention only fuels his psychosis :-) Steve - - Heavy Rotation: Girls against Boys (the best guitar album of 1996) and Luscious Jackson - _Fever In, Fever Out_ ------------------------------ From: Billy Subject: SNL I agree with the rest of the list in saying that the SNL performance wasn't up to par. I guess if I had seen it when It was live I would have liked it better but after seeing Soundgarden live, not much can compare. A reason for the poor show was probably the dull SNL crowd who can just sit in their seats. At least SG overshadowed the rest of the SNL show which was truly awful. Anyone remember the Rage Agaisnt the Machine/SNL incident? Even though this is a Soundgarden list I hafta say I support Rage 100%! ------------------------------ From: lackluster.hero@thenexus.com Subject: agh help... its like, theres this thing on mtv, one a those sex in the 90s things, i think, and they got dr. ruth, and they're playing rusty cage and jesus christ pose in the background while these chicks are dancing around and I just don't like it.. help me.. damnit go dance around to motley crue or something.. grr on the brighter side of things, anyone hear about the stinkin boston show yet? and is anyone else finding it impossible to find the butt-ow singles? Are you threatening me? lackluster.hero@thenexus.com "Just want a way not to be what gets sold to me" - JBX "You know that guy in whose camper they...I mean that guy off in whose camper they were whacking?" - Agent Bork from _Beavis And Butt-Head Do America_ ------------------------------ From: William Robert Walsh Subject: drawing flies i was going to line by line write my interpretation to drawing flies but realized that would be arduous and might result in every single SG line being written about in SOMMS. not to say that people's individual take on a song aren't of interest, but rather, it could get cumbersome to open the floodgates of decomposing every SG line. but in a nutshell, the 1st person take: he is guilty because he feels like a voyuer (uninvited company) looking at a porno magazine. most of the song is about the person trying to free himself from blame. images of pedestols, cannons and pistols firing are his ejaculation. (notice how i refrained from saying the word "penis") ;-) it would be interesting to hear people's interpretation on some of the more abstract songs (like Lance's spin on burden in my hand). bill ps are there any "silent" sommsters who live in north dakota along with me? (yes, it's cold and i don't like it) if so, email me. ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Saturday, 4 Jan 1997 From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) >Moon Druid > > Carolyn... I know it's been three years. I know that you use a brand new > > phrase for the MF each time. But it's gotten way out of hand!!! Besides, I > > bet that you and me and seth are the only ones that remember the days of > > "Carolyn the MF". Carolyn My Friend don't you ever stop signing off with your wonderful MF.. If Carolyn can't use her MF signature then you shouldn't use the Moon Druid cover name either - just remember allot of us long term members know your real name!!!! :-P > seth > On the contrary, MoonDruid, this list will only be a year and a half > old on January 28, and there are *plenty* of people who have been > subscribed since Day One. Why, I remember not so long ago there was a > guy on the list named JunkGunF... whatever happened to him anyway? :) I know your real name too JunkGunF - but I think there is allot of us SOMM members who do... >Moon Druid >And anyway... why can't you all be Ben groupies like Jamie (is she still >here?) Yes I'm still here just doing a month of vacation time. I have until the 16th and then I'll be back to bug the list and the S.I.S. This is the first time in over 10 years that I have taken off this much time and used it just for me. It's been really great the man in my life is here for a month and we are hitting every used CD and record store in the VA/DC/Washington area. Sorry SOMMs members in this area if it's Soundgarden and it's out there it's mine.. Does anyone know why "GO" close down??? Jamie (Village Idiot/SOMMs Mom) ------------------------------ From: urbano Subject: Re: Member directory At 05:07 PM 5/01/97 EST, you wrote: >I don't know if anyone ever looks at the member directory any more, I do!!!! And I do it a lot! Last night was the last time I checked to see wether Geoff was a guy or a hot chick. (I must confess that I still don't have it really clear :). So PLEASSSEEE don't even think on killing it to save disk space. PLEASSEEE!!!!! Besides when Matt surfs over the digests in the web page he can quickly check who is badmouthing him (is that a verb???). On the other hand, perhaps he doesn't even have the passwd to get in ;). -worried... urbano ------------------------------ From: AntiDog@aol.com Subject: Grunge is Dying THREAD In response to: Moon Druid -- deadguy@interaccess.com -- <> AntiDog wrote: Is grunge dying or is the mass, popular audience which embraced the so-called alternative sound just letting it go and moving onto, say, the new disco/dance pop stations that are sweeping the country? A recent article in THE OREGONIAN (Fri, Oct. 25, 1996) correlated PJs record sales figures with their commerical avoidance. But I think the decline in their sales, though clearly due in part to their lack of interest in being sold as a packaged commodity, is also due to the changing desires of the wide, popular audience which was initially won over with TEN. BTW, the PJ figures briefly stated looked like this (from 1991 to 1996): TEN album sales: 7.7 M, VS: 5.4 M, Vitalogy: 4.3 M, No Code: 829,000. It is interesting that SGs audience has WIDENED substantially over the same period. ------------------------------ From: Caryn Rose Subject: Re: Grunge is Dying THREAD On Mon, 6 Jan 1997 AntiDog@aol.com wrote: > BTW, the PJ figures briefly stated looked like this (from 1991 to 1996): TEN > album sales: 7.7 M, VS: 5.4 M, Vitalogy: 4.3 M, No Code: 829,000. It is > interesting that SGs audience has WIDENED substantially over the same period. so your point is? all the stupid 'alternative is dead' articles i have read anywhere have grouped sg and pj together and pointed to them both as examples of the Death of Alternative. DoTU's album sales are as 'disappointing' for sg as No Code's were for pj (in other words, i don't think the bands give a hoot because they're making music they want to make). i watched a documentary last night -- part of the time-life 'history of rock and roll' series and elvis costello had an intereting comment, relevant to this discussion: 'it doesn't say anywhere in my contract that i have to make the same record over and over again'. i know seth would like to see BMF over and over and over, while ipersonally really enjoy DoTU and adore No Code (and would be happy as a clam if they never did another track from 'Ten' live ever again, period). alternative as a genre is over, grunge is not dying, it has been dead for YEARS now. the only ones who still use that term are the media (which, don['t forget, made up the term m in the first place! didn'dt anyone here see 'hype!' !!!!!) - --caryn ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 3 Issue 6] **************************************