From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Saturday, 4 Jan 1997 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Sat, 04 Jan 1997 04:17:59 EST Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Saturday, 4 Jan 1997 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: Biased Calendar That crazy calendar...And SOMMSvention! Down On The Upside + bonus disk Australian Tour limited edition BMF? 1997 Calendar Re: That crazy calendar...And SOMMSvention! Re: Down On The Upside + bonus disk Australian Tour Re: DOTU Sales Answers and questions newly damaged singles drawing flies Slots of Soundgarden!!! Re: Slots of Soundgarden!!! Re: newly damaged singles Re: drawing flies Happy New Year SOMMS! the SG/STP connection Freak......Blowing up the Outside World?? Soundgarden on SNL ALL INSANE!!!!!!!!!!! <-----that's me (c8 RE: tour package ...... I'll try!! :-) Re: the SG/STP connection RE: tour package in the Land of Oz Update on my hunt for Aussie bonus SG DOTU CD limited edition BMF i closed my eyes and walked a thousand years... SG to the rescue!!! Chatting BUTOW import singles.... Flower video DOTU pack RE: drawing flies ------------------------------------------------------------ From: James Cox Subject: Biased Calendar Okay... it's my first time to post so I hope I am doing this right. Hey, there is a first time for everything. I just wanted to express my confusion about the 97 Soundgarden calendar. I mean we all know Chris is very easy to look at and he's a great subject for the camera but I always understood that there were four talented people in Soundgarden. The 96 cal. had 6 pic's of Chris, 2 of Kim, 2 of SG, 1 of Matt, and 1 w/ Matt & Chris. This year's features 10 of Chris and only two of SG. Is this the year that everyone is going to jump on the ***CC bandwagon *** and ride it all the way to the ground until it crashes and burns? I sure hope not. I think that whoever arranged the calendar should have not forgotten the other three guys we love and respect so much. BTW= my fav. pic's from the 96 cal. were Oct. and July (Matt pounding away) and this year's is definitely Feb. Don't you wish your sweetheart looked like this?????? ****** I hope Chris is not headed for the bottom because everyone is riding him all the way****** Concerned, trishy ------------------------------ From: ThNrthFace@aol.com Subject: That crazy calendar...And SOMMSvention! Howdy, You can find the calendar at http://gemm.com/s.cgi/WYNNCO too, for those interested. Now, on to the SOMMSvention '97, in Las Vegas!!! Think about it for a second. Cheap airfare, food and lodging. Everything is ALWAYS open, and FREE DRINKS!!! How can you go wrong with free drinks? If enough people go, we could get a group discount. I'm there... The List Thug, SOMMS Sheriff, KTMS Founder, Mr. Hootchie SOMMS, and resident convention happy freak. Aaron ------------------------------ From: Georgia Kennedy Subject: Down On The Upside + bonus disk Australian Tour Further to the many enquiries and discussion regarding this CD, I am happy to try to chase down a few copies here in Perth. Anyone wanting a copy (please don't forget, a CD costs around $30.00 over here), please send me personal mail, and between me & Carolyn (and any other Australian SOMMSters) lets see what we can come up with! I'll try to get hold of a few of these CD's in exchange for some really cool, exciting bootlegs, EP's that I might not have, or videos (are US videos compatible with Aust. ones?). Let's get some serious trading happening here!!!! GEORGIA. ------------------------------ From: Chewy713@aol.com Subject: limited edition BMF? this is my first post...i was wondering if anyone has this and should i buy it... i saw it at a cd store near me for $55. it looks like a toilet seat and has the BMF logo and a screw-like thing on the front. on the back there is a polaroid of the inside - it looks like just the BMF cd and booklet...is that all it is? should i have bought it? the unofficial discography page (sorry, i cant remember who runs it - but its good) says it a 1000-copy limited edition...is that true? very curious, chewy p.s. hey shroom thanks for the dusty wav... p.p.s. kevin (outshined)...thanks for the cd advice ------------------------------ From: "Audrey L. Hillyard" Subject: 1997 Calendar A thousand pardons if this has already been answered (I'm one of those lame digest folks): CD-Now has the calendar listed as a special order. $13.99. ------------------------------ From: KAISERVRBL@aol.com Subject: Re: That crazy calendar...And SOMMSvention! GREAT FUCKING IDEA AARON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Count me in. This could be an affair that would rock the town of Vegas. (Just don't try for any time around Valentines Day, You cna't get in anywhere. It's their 2nd biggest weekend of the year) COOL, I SAY LET'S DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Lance ------------------------------ From: Vincent Varkey Subject: Re: Down On The Upside + bonus disk Australian Tour Does anyone know what songs are on the bonus disk that comes as a part of this package? thanks. - -vincent ------------------------------ From: Brian_Lew@iacnet.com Subject: Re: DOTU Sales It did go platinum in the States (1 million copies sold). According to the latest issue of Billboard (Dec 28 issue) it peaked at #30 on the Top 200 Album Sales Chart and is now at #99. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: DOTU Sales Author: Vasant Ramamurthy at SMTPGATE Date: 1/2/97 9:42 PM anybody know how much DOTU sold? did it go platinum or is it pretty close? Vasant * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Soon to be home of the Unofficial Soundgarden Songbook: http://ctdnet.acns.nwu.edu/~vman/me.html vman@ctdnet.acns.nwu.edu "When new damage comes, it's a new word for plague, a new world order, a new word for hate" - New Damage - S O U N D G A R D E N ------------------------------ From: Rebekah Henderson Subject: Answers and questions DOTU did go platinum. It sold over 2 million in it's first 6 months of release. I read in New Metal Crown or the Cd book (I don't remember which one) that Ben had a daughter. Is this true? He just doesn't look like he would have a kid. May Soundgarden be with you. Rebekah ------------------------------ From: CL Miller Subject: newly damaged singles someone mentioned that dusty will be the next single will this be available in the u.s. or will it be another single released abroad like butow or ???pretty noose??? any info will be appreciated tanx. "the lives we make. . .never seem to ever get us anywhere but dead"~~c. cornell ------------------------------ From: wwalsh@prairie.nodak.edu (Bill Walsh) Subject: drawing flies > Sitting here like uninvited company, wallowing in my own obscenity, smoke >a cigarette with negativity......now some one wanna 'splain to me what >*obscenity* he is wallowing in? cuz my imagination can just run wild with >that one. Im sure someone must have an idea.... his obsenity is his lustful desire for women. the song, Drawing Flies, is about masturbating to a pornographic magazine and his ambilavence he has for it. he sings about defending himself against the persecution associated with the act (a common SG theme) but also has a tone of self-blame in the song with words like "obsenity", "negativity", "self-denial". he's struggling with what doing this act says about him as a person. trying not to believe those he's defending himself against, but having a hard time convincing himself. probaly not what you were looking for, but i think an accurate intepretation of the song nonetheless. the imagery created in this song and the metaphors used in doing so makes this one of my fav SG songs. anyone like to add or contradict what this song is about? bill this is only my second time to write to the list so i hope ive sent this to the right address. seth, if i didnt, release the hounds. ------------------------------ From: tonerkin Subject: Slots of Soundgarden!!! At 04:05 AM 1/3/97 -0500, you wrote: >Howdy, Now, on to the SOMMSvention '97, in Las Vegas!!! Think about it for a second. >Cheap airfare, food and lodging. Everything is ALWAYS open, and FREE >DRINKS!!! How can you go wrong with free drinks? If enough people go, we >could get a group discount. I'm there... > >The List Thug, SOMMS Sheriff, KTMS Founder, Mr. Hootchie SOMMS, and resident >convention happy freak. > >Aaron VIVA LAS VEGAS!!!!!!!! The possibilities are endless!!! Just the mention of FREE BEER and the Kimster is there!!!! Maybe someone will have a boxing match going on so Ben will hear the word fight and he'll also be there!! Let's see what do me need to attrach Chris? ......and Matt?.....oh I forgot...SETH will be there :)!!! toni ------------------------------ From: "Steven Russell Jr." Subject: Re: Slots of Soundgarden!!! At 01:44 PM 01/03/97 -0500, you wrote: >>Howdy, > >Now, on to the SOMMSvention '97, in Las Vegas!!! Think about it for a second. >>Cheap airfare, food and lodging. Everything is ALWAYS open, and FREE >>DRINKS!!! How can you go wrong with free drinks? If enough people go, we >>could get a group discount. I'm there... > >VIVA LAS VEGAS!!!!!!!! The possibilities are endless!!! Someone with connections to management (nudge nudge, wink wink) needs to *persuade* management to book Las Vegas. And while they're at it...put in a word for Buffalo. Hmm...I don't think SG has played either city.... If it's warm...and a weekend...I'll be there Steve - - rereading the opening passage to _Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas_ to see what I need to bring ------------------------------ Subject: Re: newly damaged singles From: seth > someone mentioned that dusty will be the next single > > will this be available in the u.s. or will it be another single released > abroad like butow or ???pretty noose??? i don't think anyone knows for sure what the next single will be. "dusty" happens to be the fourth track on the dotu pre-release sampler; the first three tracks are "pretty noose," "burden in my hand," and "blow up the outside world." whatever the next single is, it seems likely that it will be released as a 2-part box and a 7" in europe, and a cd in australia, like the other three dotu singles. if they edit it for radio, there will likely be a promo-only disc in the united states that includes the lp version and the edit version of the track (a la "blow up the outside world"). seth ------------------------------ From: Caryn Rose Subject: Re: drawing flies On Fri, 3 Jan 1997, Bill Walsh wrote: > probaly not what you were looking for, but i think an accurate intepretation > of the song nonetheless. the imagery created in this song and the metaphors > used in doing so makes this one of my fav SG songs. anyone like to add or > contradict what this song is about? well, now i have to go listen to it AGAIN because i have to say i never thought about it that way... i would love to hear this song live because it is such a total Queen ripoff! (and i mean that in the most excellent sense of the word). It's just so evocative of the kind of energy present in something like "Keep Yourself Alive" or "Tie Your Mother Down". anyone else see this? - --caryn ------------------------------ From: "Paul Schiller" Subject: HEY! MY NAMES PAUL AND I'M NEW ON THE SG MAILING LIST SO WOULD SOMEONE LIKE TO SEND ME SOME MAIL TELLING ME WHAT YOU GUYS TALK ABOUT AND SOME EMAIL ADDRESS'. IT WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED. THANKS rudiger@hotmail.com - --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: The Guitarist-2001 Subject: Happy New Year SOMMS! at 10:30 our cable went out (fortunately after watching the Eagles concert for the 8billionthtime - guitarists out there should all listen to Joe Walsh...and Joe Satriani of course...hmm...a pattern? maybe I should change my name to Joe...) and flipping to broadcast (UHF if that means anything to anybody...) the only channel we could find with a New Year's Eve countdown was the Spanish channel, so FELIZ ANO (nuevo) AMIGOS! this is just my annual post to remind you folks that I'm still on the list...;-) buy the way, on Monday Christy posted "where the heck is Spoonman?"...is this in any way related in my direction? (looking up at my E-mail address) I doubted this so then I question what Spoonman this is in referral to? I actually kind of liked the short vacation from SOMMS . . . gave time to relax, read up past digests (the main reason I've been rather silent lately), visit the real world and catch up on current events (Hey, did you know Clinton was reelected??!), etc. . . Fearing "The Ebonics Channel"... The Guitarist-2001 "Damn you, I said damn My mind is better off dead Damn you, I said damn Who are these voices in my head" - Damn You, Steve Vai, Fire Garden ------------------------------ Subject: the SG/STP connection From: seth I was wasting my time reading Rolling Stone's daily news when I stumbled upon an article about STP's canceled New Year's Eve show in Alaska and the rumors surrounding Weiland, etc. Here's an excerpt: - ----- The band's crew and gear (borrowed from Soundgarden) had already arrived in Anchorage, and STP had been expected on a 6 p.m. flight New Year's Eve. "We have 8,000 angry fans up here," says Program Director J.J. Michaels. "It was a sold-out show." - ----- Given the general idea of a song like "Karaoke," it seems odd that Soundgarden would be supporting STP's efforts... seth PS - This was just something I thought was interesting. I'm not attempting to start a discussion of Stone Temple Pilots and neither should you. ------------------------------ From: Carolyn Hanel Subject: Freak......Blowing up the Outside World?? Hi all, This is a post mainly for any Aussies on the list who happen to be = interested in silverchair (Mandy?). Tonight on television the video to = their new single, "Freak" (due to be released on the 13th of this month) = will be opening 'Rage' - at 12.50 am. It will also be the last video = played at midday tomorrow, when 'Rage' ends. The bassist from Devo (his name escapes me just now) produced the video. = He also produced Devo's own video to "Whip It", and then of course he = recently produced the video of Soundgarden's "Blow Up The Outside World" = (which I still haven't seen :-( ).=20 He seems to have some rather weird ideas! This silverchair video = apparently shows the three band members sweating like crazy in a = room-sized oven. The video is mainly about an ugly old lady who, after = drinking the sweat of the three guys=20 [Shroom, why does that remind me of you? :-)] , turns young and beautiful. But she isn't satisfied, wants more of = this stuff that makes her so attractive, drinks more, but turns into a = fish-like ugly freaky creature. =20 Hmmmmm, I'll be interested to see it! :-) A new Metallica filmclip will also be shown - not sure which one. Thinking of all you Northern Hemispherians in the cool while I'm = sweltering down here in 40oC heat (about 110oF??), Carolyn the Melting Frog Ooooh I'm a freak..........of nature - silverchair ------------------------------ From: jacquep@bmtc.mindspring.com (Jacque Phillips) Subject: Soundgarden on SNL I have heard that Soundgarden will be performing on Saturday Night Live tonight. Sorry if i'm wrong, but that's what i heard. Lauren ------------------------------ From: Aferdity@aol.com Subject: ALL INSANE!!!!!!!!!!! <-----that's me (c8 Those people over in Australia are so special!!!! HEY, a little sucking up never hurt anyone!!!! Okay, my real reason, if you haven't guessed, is I would also like one of the double DOTU cd(or whatever it is) ~sorry for my stupidity~, PLEASE!!!!!! I really don't have anything to trade(I maybe able to dig up something)but I will pay money. Well, I think I've begged enough!!!! OH, I'm so excited to hear about SommsStock '97 and Oklahoma City is a lot closer than Chicago(for me) to go and meet all the cool SOMMSters. Well, keep me posted!!!! Stay Cool, Kelly ------------------------------ From: Carolyn Hanel Subject: RE: tour package ...... I'll try!! :-) Sabrina informed us: >To all Australian sommsters out there..... PLEASE TAKE NOTE:=20 >A&M will be releasing a special DOTU tour package to promote the SG = tour >(BDO) in January. This tour package includes the DOTU CD and an extra = bonus >CD with 6 rare and unreleased tracks....=20 So Steve threw in: >>If this is true..... >>...let me be the first to put a bounty on this item. The first person = from Australia (or any other country) that can secure me an extra copy of the dotu w/2nd disk (irregardless of tracks)... I'll not only pay for the copy...but I'll throw in a bootleg prize pack :-) Alright!! :-) Here I go. I'll try!! But I have a feeling Blind Dog = might win the race........unless he's off sunning himself somewhere = nowhere near his computer screen right now - where are you, Justin?? Seriously, I will try and land a couple of copies of this 2-pack CD. If = I do I'll let the list know. Oh, and in case anyone's interested - I had to make a decision a while = ago whether to make an eight hour drive over to Melbourne to see SG in = concert, even if I could only get restricted viewing seats (behind the = stage with NO VIEW of the stage at all), since SG aren't doing a concert = of their own in Adelaide (thank goodness they're coming to Adelaide for = the BDO). Well, upon the advice of a few Sommsters, I took the plunge = and we now have tickets. Yahoo! That will be on Sunday 26 January, = five days before I see them again in Adelaide on Friday 31 January. So = there'll be two reviews you'll all be having to put up with from yours = truly.............. Carolyn the Mesmerising Fish So don't you wanna be a big time entity? - Spiderbait ------------------------------ From: Caryn Rose Subject: Re: the SG/STP connection On Fri, 3 Jan 1997, seth wrote: > I was wasting my time reading Rolling Stone's daily news when I > stumbled upon an article about STP's canceled New Year's Eve show in > Alaska and the rumors surrounding Weiland, etc. Here's an excerpt: > > Given the general idea of a song like "Karaoke," it seems odd that > Soundgarden would be supporting STP's efforts... hey, work for hire! if sg isn't using them, why not hire them out? they (soundgarden) loaned their equipment to the smashing pumpkins last year... *shrug* - --caryn ------------------------------ From: Carolyn Hanel Subject: RE: tour package in the Land of Oz After Steve and Mind Riot started the ball rolling, Lance told us: >>I'll do anything to get a copy of the SG Australian 6-pak. Money, = trades, Yeah, so Blind Dog will still probably win the race....... >>sexual inuendos, anything it takes!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ooh ah. Justin, are you willing to declare yourself the loser now?? = ;-) >>Let me know PLEASE Lance, Mind Riot, Steve, and anyone else out there - I promise I'll let = you know how successful I am. Of course you could in return get hold of = one of those Soundgarden calendars I've been hearing so much = about................. :-) Carolyn the Mustard Flavour Find me guilty, when the guilt is from within - Metallica ------------------------------ From: Carolyn Hanel Subject: Update on my hunt for Aussie bonus SG DOTU CD Well, after promising to try my hardest to get my hands on at least one = of these tour promotions that Sabrina informed us about, I've been on = the telephone. I tried a couple of CD shops in Adelaide - both of which said they've = had the bonus CD in with DOTU, but they've all been taken. Both stores = said they might have more coming in on Wednesday. So I have to phone = them back then, and try to get a few. How many people really REALLY want one of these? Because I'm not made = of money!! :-$ If I know that I will be reimbursed for them, I'll try = to get as many as I can. I know Steve will want one for sure - is there = anyone else?? Anyone willing to send me money, I mean. If you can let = me know before Tuesday US time (which is Wednesday my time, of course), = then I'll do my best. Of course, I might not be able to get any, and = I'll expect no money until I let you know I have the CD in my hot little = hand. Email me if you're REALLY keen. {keep in mind that CDs in Australia cost around $30 - which is about $25 = US + postage} Cheers, Carolyn the Mildly Friendly Follow me into the desert, as thirsty as you are......Soundgarden ------------------------------ From: Chewy713@aol.com Subject: limited edition BMF hey, i dont have the cash, and my parrents wont buy it for me...so if someone in the chicago area wants to buy the limited edition BMF, its at the best buy on rt. 60 and 21 intersection. just letting you know chewy ------------------------------ From: eliza Subject: i closed my eyes and walked a thousand years... well i have had an interesting experience...wonder if anyone can relate.... After chicago, i took a big break from SG, the biggest one in years. Not immediately after the weekend, but soon after (i think after the drive home). Until then I had barely gone a day without listening to even a few bars of SG for years...I think the experience in Chicago was so intense, that it seemed almost mundane to do just listen to a CD - somehow it seemed to take away from it all. So I dove myself into Failure and Molly McGuire and relived my Quicksand days and and and... Well the break ended yesterday. I started craving SG like chocolate..And now I am going thru an obsession like I never have before. It is like I am hearing the music all again for the first time, in a totally different way. Spoonman even brought tears to my eyes...(no, not cuz the song is sad but because of what it brought back to me...) OK OK I will stop being an emotional sap (not news to those who know me ;-) but I just thought I'd share...I usually listen to a band more *after* an experience like that, so it was strange... eliza **************************************** In these careless days you know Who your friends are, a saving grace A time to remember What you've taken and who You took from, it's over There's no mistaking What you give is what you get --Quicksand ------------------------------ From: SGarden1@aol.com Subject: SG to the rescue!!! Wow, I haven't posted in a while. I'm listening to my favorite SG song right now....which is Beyond The Wheel. Well this post does have a point. Anyways I was just wondering if there was anyone else who feels better when listening to SG. I mean that like, Whenever I am having a bad day or something I just listen to SG, and it makes me feel better. I guess it just might be because I love the music so much, I was just wondering if this happened with anyone else. Ok~I'll go now~~ ~Later Ronda (Hi Skye)!! ------------------------------ From: "Kelly Lee" Subject: Chatting Hey Everyone! I talked to alot of mailing list members yesterday and had a great time. I hope we can do that again Skye, Ronda, Shroom, and Fluttergirl. We need more people to chat with us. It's the Soundgardenchat room. See ya there! Sincerely, Kelly Lee -The other Kelly :) ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: BUTOW import singles.... were located in extreme profusion tonight at Tower Records here in Seattle. If they had 'em, chances are your local tower (or their web site) might be able to help you out. they've got both pieces -- i wimped out (well, i went in for two damn 60 minute blank tapes and ended up spending $70, including cleaning out their stock of pearl jam's new single on 7") and only got the one with the 'dusty' remix. they had so many that if i REALLY want it later, i can go get it... - --caryn ------------------------------ From: Geoff Subject: Flower video Hey everybody, As some of you may know, I'm the resident movie maker on the list. I'm slowly making an mpeg clip of all of Soundgarden's videos. But there is a problem. I don't have and have never seen the Flower video. What I would like to do is, to get it, and encode it (the entire thing) so that Seth can post it on the Unofficial Soundgarden website. Then, everybody will have access to it. So what I was thinking was this: Muchmusic has a show called RSVP (Requested songs for Video Play), in which they play requested videos. I'm hoping that if we deluge MuchMusic with requests for Flower they will play it. The email address is: rsvp@muchmusic.com Please mail them now, with the request in the subject heading and body. There is one other option. If somebody has it on tape, they could send it to me. I would reward such persons heavily. If you have a copy of the flower video, or know the whereabouts, please email me privately. Thanks, Geoff p.s. email rsvp@muchmusic.com now!!! ------------------------------ From: Carolyn Hanel Subject: DOTU pack Hi again, Geogia - good idea about you trying to get a few of these bonus CD packs = in Perth also. I've had MANY MANY requests from Sommsters for one - = even if I'm lucky enough to get some I doubt I'll be able to satisfy all = of you. :-( I am confident I have enough people who will reimburse us for our = purchases, so Georgia, get to it and I'm sure we won't be out of pocket. = People, we'll do our best!! Oh, and there have been some mighty interesting offers, I tell ya! = Scott, much as I love cats, I have two of my own (Topsy & Turvy, my two = fat cats), so you can keep yours! =20 I'll write again when I have some copies in my hot little hand.......... Carolyn the Most Fresh I'm sitting in my chair, wearing a smile......Violent Femmes ------------------------------ From: Carolyn Hanel Subject: RE: drawing flies Bill Walsh suggested that 'Drawing Flies' is about: >>his obsenity is his lustful desire for women. the song, Drawing = Flies, is about masturbating to a pornographic magazine.............. Caryn mentioned that she hadn't thought of it like that before. Well, I hadn't either! (maybe we're too sweet and innocent) ;-) Reading through the lyrics just now I can see why Bill thinks the way he = does. Firing canons, bathed in perspiration, firing pistols - hmmmmmmm. DF is my 2nd favourite SG song. It has such energy, and I love singing = along with CC as it's so damn FAST! I will have to have more listens = now also, to try and take on board this new interpretation............ Carolyn the Murky Feline=09 Bathed in perspiration drowned my enemies......Soundgarden ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 3 Issue 4] **************************************