From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Sunday, 22 Dec 1996 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 01:30:13 EST Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Sunday, 22 Dec 1996 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: Re: Outshined & other stuFF... Re: vote....maybe or maybe not A very merry Soundgarden Christmas Re: vote....maybe or maybe not Re: vote....maybe or maybe not Re: vote....maybe or maybe not Jesus Christ Poses, Fav Song, Details, Bush... Re: vote....maybe or maybe not Re: Outshined CC pic of the day... DOTU vinyl Re:Knights of the Sound table RE: Your tapes are coming!!!!! #somms Seattle Shows Touch Me chris interview happy holidays SG with G N' R vid mainstreaming Cost of KOTS Re: SG with G N' R vid Re: Religion and SG Religion and SG Seattle Shows Re: SG with G N' R vid Re: Religion and SG Re: Seattle Shows ------------------------------------------------------------ From: endless_nameless@prodigy.com (GRRL NIKI FREER) Subject: Re: Outshined & other stuFF... stella wrote: > I saw that first Outshined video. To me its the same thing as the >one released except it doesn't have the guy running around in >a big hamster wheel. And instead of chains it looks like chris is >playing around giant rolls of fly paper. Laugh now but I swear to >you that's what it looks like. If shroom hasn't updated her chris pic >of the day, you'll see a picture of him in the canadian version. honestly, i like the 'fly paper' version much better than the one with the chains. not that there is *that* much difference in the two, they're both pure sex, but i just like the fly paper one more. i have them both on tape (thanks to Eric, i believe) and they're not very complicated videos, but definately not boring ones either. now, to my christmas joy! i now own both Motorvision and Louder Than Live!!! = ) woo hoo! sometimes i just love my friends... = ) personally, i perfer the shooting and sound of MV to LTL. LTL is good... but i don't like b&w movies hardly at all, so that already had me going "um..." when it first started. but i just SOO envy the people who got to see SG in tiny venues like that. my first experience with them was in Philly's Electric factory, holder of 3064. = ( and the stage was so high up, that i could only see them from like the knees up sometimes.= ( kinda disappointing if you ask me. um, i'm rambling now. sorry! my point was i now own those videos and i'm SO HAPPY! = ) have a great christmas everyone! i'll be here the whole time with what few of us SOMMSters are staying, so see ya later.. mind riot ____ "it's a feeling that everyone gets. you're happy with your life, everything's going well, things are exciting-- when all of a sudden you realize you're unhappy in the extreme, to the point of being really, really scared. there's no particaular event you can pin the feeling down to, it's just that you realize one day that everything in your life is FUCKED!!" hello, don't you know me, i'm the dirt beneath your feet...i'm luck's last match struck in the pouring down wind...sleep tight for me... ------------------------------ From: gwm@starnetinc.com Subject: Re: vote....maybe or maybe not > Maybe we shouldnt vote for Seth's page cuz then everybody and their dog >will come here....all those not-nearly-as-into-SG-as-we-are people however >many that is...all the 15 year olds What's up with this statement? Why is everyone against prejudice against people under 20? I'm 14, and I love SG and I have a right to be on this mailinglist just as much as anyone else. That's a total stereotype? Am I the youngest on this list? Teenagers come out of lurk mode! Dave Miller ********************************************* *I like to trade bootlegs. * *Check out my Pearl Jam homepage at: * *http://pwp.starnetinc.com/gwm/pearl.htm * *You can find my bootlist there * *PEARL JAM AND SOUNDGARDEN RULE! * ********************************************* ------------------------------ From: Moonsta693@aol.com Subject: A very merry Soundgarden Christmas well, here's to all of you just incase I don't show up durring the vacation.....Merry Chris-tmas and a hapy new year(don't drink too much)! Next item on the agenda...you know you've got a friend when she gives you a folder full of Soundgarden pictures for Christmas, thanx Julia. on to more universal topics....I'll reply to all of you talking about soundgarden becoming mainstream. I have to agree with who said that Sg is just popular, not mainstream. Metallica and Pearl Jam are main stream. You hear a topic rise up about the rock music scene, you usually hear Pearl Jam somewhere in that sentence. Soundgarden, however, is just popular. Just look at this list. Over 700 people! You don't have the media all jumping on this bandwagon, do you? People just have to realize that soundgarden is being noticed by people who never heard of them before. They are just gaining, hopefully, devoted fans! I make my peace now by saying....Love, Peace, SOUNDGARDEN, the original preety noose(the baby of the list) P.S. How many people would freak out if Soundgarden came out with a Christmas single? Wow, just think about how Silent Night would sound! ------------------------------ From: gwm@starnetinc.com Subject: Re: vote....maybe or maybe not >against prejudice against Guess you guys can tell I'm 14 huh. Sorry! Dave Miller ********************************************* *I like to trade bootlegs. * *Check out my Pearl Jam homepage at: * *http://pwp.starnetinc.com/gwm/pearl.htm * *You can find my bootlist there * *PEARL JAM AND SOUNDGARDEN RULE! * ********************************************* ------------------------------ From: Lynne Low Subject: Re: vote....maybe or maybe not On Fri, 20 Dec 1996, Caryn Rose wrote: >during this season of trying-to-be-nice-to-ones-fellow-planet-dweller, >perhaps it would be a good gesture to drop this discussion? older sg fans >are not better than younger sg fans and vice versa. >we're all lunatics ;-) She's right! I could not have said it better. Peace, Lynne ------------------------------ From: Joe Cennamo Subject: Re: vote....maybe or maybe not On Fri, 20 Dec 1996 gwm@starnetinc.com wrote: > > Maybe we shouldnt vote for Seth's page cuz then everybody and their dog > >will come here....all those not-nearly-as-into-SG-as-we-are people however > >many that is...all the 15 year olds > > What's up with this statement? Why is everyone against prejudice against > people under 20? I'm 14, and I love SG and I have a right to be on this > mailinglist just as much as anyone else. That's a total stereotype? Am I > the youngest on this list? Teenagers come out of lurk mode! I'm 16 and joined the list when I was 15, there are more teenagers on here then you think. It really makes me mad that you would say that, not all of us love 311 and silverchair. I am a real soundgarden fan, and enjoy talking and reading about Soundgarden. Thats why I'm here. joec ------------------------------ From: eric & staci Subject: Jesus Christ Poses, Fav Song, Details, Bush... Hi guys! I just felt like sharing today, here goes: Someone said something about Chris and Jesus Christ Poses - He did the "pose" during the JCP encore and I just dug it. Is there any merchandise I can get with Chris in this pose - the t-shirts at the show just had a skeleton in the pose (didn't like 'em). My favorite song (right now, this is always subject to change) is "Drawing Flies", it has kind of a groovy horn thing going on (I remember someone asking this not long ago). As for the "Details" shoot. Chris can do as many glam shots as he likes - I have more walls in my office. And oh yah, Gavin might be an ass but he sure is a BABE. Anyway, Happy Holidays All, Staci ------------------------------ From: Caryn Rose Subject: Re: vote....maybe or maybe not On Fri, 20 Dec 1996, Joe Cennamo wrote: > silverchair. I am a real soundgarden fan, and enjoy talking and reading > about Soundgarden. Thats why I'm here. that's why we ALL are here. we've gone through this debate time and time again. it's wonderful how this list represents all ages (and i do mean *all*), countries, and outlooks. during this season of trying-to-be-nice-to-ones-fellow-planet-dweller, perhaps it would be a good gesture to drop this discussion? older sg fans are not better than younger sg fans and vice versa. we're all lunatics ;-) - --caryn ------------------------------ From: Geoff Subject: Re: Outshined Fly paper? It's polyethylene, or poly for short. It's used extensively in construction. It's in your walls, it's in your roof, and has litterally dozens of other uses. I think it's safe to assume they are on a construction site. Chris is also surrounded by bx's. BX's are those coilly electrical conduits. But as mentioned, the videos are quite similar. Geoff stella wrote: > > I saw that first Outshined video. To me its the same thing as the > one released except it doesn't have the guy running around in > a big hamster wheel. And instead of chains it looks like chris is > playing around giant rolls of fly paper. Laugh now but I swear to > you that's what it looks like. If shroom hasn't updated her chris pic > of the day, you'll see a picture of him in the canadian version. > > Deborah Baker wrote: > > > Talking of videos, in the Musician article that's just appeared on the web > > page, the band refer to an alternative version of Outshined which was much > > better, in their opinion, than the one that got released. Does anyone know > > anything about this? I second whoever it was who would like to see them > > release a compliation video of their videos - they could include the > > 'missing' ones too. > > > stella ------------------------------ From: ShRooMGrLz@aol.com Subject: CC pic of the day... Stella wrote: >And instead of chains it looks like chris is >playing around giant rolls of fly paper. Laugh now but I swear to >you that's what it looks like. If shroom hasn't updated her chris pic >of the day, you'll see a picture of him in the canadian version. Flypaper?!? Hahahaha!!! I hadn't thought about it like that before... but you're exactly right, Stella! Both versions of "Outshined" are absolutely gorgeous. Breathtaking. Drool-inducing. ;-) I've changed the CC pic of the day a few times since then, but if anyone wants it... e-mail me and I'll send it to ya. In fact, if there's any images that you see on my pages that you want, I'll be more than happy to send 'em your way. Share the lust, I say. =) Maybe I should start a mailing list for the CC pic of the day, hmmm? ;-) That'd be interesting. I think I'll give it a shot. If any of you hootchie mamas out there want to recieve the CC pic of the day in your mailbox... drop me some e-mail, and I'll upload it to y'all whenever I change it on the webpage. And yes, I'll still have the page up... for all you CLOSET HOOTCHIES out there. You know who you are. ;-) Shroom (Official SOMMS hootchie and SG's most respectable fan ;-) "Shroomy, Dave (Navarro) and I went shopping yesterday and bought a case of whipped cream and some edible paints. I thought it would be nice if the three of us had a regular old-fashioned Christmas celebration. We can sing Christmas carols and take turn decorating each other like cookies... and then we can eat... umm... well, I don't want to give away any surprises." ~ Chris Cornell (Words not necessarily said in that order...) <~~~ my disclaimer ^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^ ^v^ Check out my webpage... ^v^ ^v^ or die a slow and painful death. =) ^v^ ^v^ http://members.aol.com/ShRooMGrLz/shroom.html ^v^ ^v^ Also take a peek at the CC is God page... ^v^ ^v^ ...and the CC pic of the day! ^v^ ^v^ Damn, I'm smooth. =) ^v^ ^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^ ------------------------------ From: endless_nameless@prodigy.com (GRRL NIKI FREER) Subject: DOTU vinyl guys, i'm confused. i remember hearing all the talk about the DOTU lt. edt. on clear vinyl and whatever, so when i found a copy, i flipped. my friend bought it for me for christmas, and when i opened it... it was just plain old black vinyl. i guess the lt. edt. is both? or was the clear limited to , say, the first 1000 or less? and i tihnk i heard that there is 5000 copies of this? am i right, or am i *totally* off in left field on this? and in the song "seasons," is that a double guitar track? i find it hard to believe that chris could play all that at the same time. mind riot ____ "it's a feeling that everyone gets. you're happy with your life, everything's going well, things are exciting-- when all of a sudden you realize you're unhappy in the extreme, to the point of being really, really scared. there's no particaular event you can pin the feeling down to, it's just that you realize one day that everything in your life is FUCKED!!" hello, don't you know me, i'm the dirt beneath your feet...i'm luck's last match struck in the pouring down wind...sleep tight for me... ------------------------------ From: oponfam@cnsnet.com Subject: Re:Knights of the Sound table Dee Dee wrote: > ok im totally perplexed...since i never bothered to join the fan club > thingy, how is it that i ended up with the christmas card etc from them this > year? not complaining, just dont understand how they got my name and > address...any idea anyone? Same here. I got it yesterday. At one time, years ago (before they charged $12) I was in the fan club, but I haven't gotten anything in probably two years. I figured they must have gotten my address from the letter I wrote to Silver Management, since they're in the same building, but that only had MY address on it. Did anyone else who was involved in the Chicago meeting get a surprise package from the fan club? I'm confused about the fan club anyway. I first started wondering when the president of the club called me to tell me they had some tickets for the Chicago shows and when I asked how I could contact her she said at the Silver Management number. And then, after the concert, I offered to help if the fan club ever decided to do regional chapters and this is part of what she wrote me: > As far as fan club chapters, we have received many inquiries about this > over the years, however, it is much more efficient and allows the band to be > more directly involved if we keep everything centralized here in the > management office. Thank you for your desire to be involved. As I see it, > you are already helping out in THE most important way...being a fan. I don't know about you people who have been in the fan club over the past few years, but I certainly never saw the fan club as terribly active or consistent as far as mailings or anything. And aren't fan clubs usually started and maintained by "fans"? I felt like her response was pretty patronizing. Any thoughts? Happy Solstice everyone. Kathie ------------------------------ From: KAISERVRBL@aol.com Subject: RE: Your tapes are coming!!!!! Sorry about the delay kiddies, My Seattle trip set me back a few days. Tommorrow (Dec. 21) I am sending tapes to the following SOMMSters: Andri Nadzi Stella Rogers Vassant Ramamurthy Brian Eads Kelly Jones C. Babcock. Taylor Holmes If I'm missing anyone, please let me know ASAP Thanx, I hope you all enjoy them Lance ------------------------------ From: Geoff Subject: #somms It's 3:40 CST, but that shouldn't stop people from joining Chris and myself in #somms. Geoff ------------------------------ From: KMoran1051@aol.com Subject: Seattle Shows How were the Seattle shows? Just thought I would ask. Somebody please e-mail me and let me know. "Sleep tight for me, sleep tight for me, sleep tight for me I'm gone" ------------------------------ From: ADDC Subject: Touch Me On Touch Me, who is the female singing opposite to Chris? Happy Holidays everyone, - -vincent ------------------------------ From: jax00@ix.netcom.com (Jacqueline Franco) Subject: chris interview hey luke clue me in on this interview thanks happy holidays jax ------------------------------ From: jax00@ix.netcom.com (Jacqueline Franco) Subject: happy holidays merry christmas and happy holidays to all of you hope you all have fun and aren't as miserable as i am and will continue to be (long story) thanks for your soundgarden support love jax ------------------------------ From: gwm@starnetinc.com Subject: SG with G N' R vid Hey, my friend found this old pro shot video of a Guns N' Roses concert. We decided to watch it and to our surprise, SG opened for them and we got to see them too. It wasn't the whole set though because they only showed 'Searching With My Good Eye Closed', 'Hands All Over', 'Face Pollution', and 'Jesus Christ Pose'. This is a great video, does anyone else have it? Dave Miller ********************************************* *I like to trade bootlegs. * *Check out my Pearl Jam homepage at: * *http://pwp.starnetinc.com/gwm/pearl.htm * *You can find my bootlist there * *PEARL JAM AND SOUNDGARDEN RULE! * ********************************************* ------------------------------ From: CL Miller Subject: mainstreaming what is everyone's infatuation with whether or not a band has become "mainstream" or not? is there actually an exact definition for the word? how many people realize that many bands (including SOUNDGARDEN) would never get as far as they are if they do not flow/adjust/tweak/bow/whatever to what society and record companies need. you can talk wind about how if a band doesn't stay true to their vision, then they suck. but also, you can't get ahead in your job if you try to rebel against it constantly. you will get thrown out on your ass and will not be able to produce anything worthwhile. this is how i look at the record industry. yes it isn't fair. yes it sucks. but that's America. even if SOUNDGARDEN has/is/was/will "sell-out", isn't it only important that the fans enjoy the MUSIC? i don't listen to SOUNDGARDEN because they sign million dollar record deals or make ten mints off of royalties. . .i listen to them because i LOVE THEIR MUSIC. i don't eat food that i don't like. i don't watch movies i don't like. and i don't listen to music i don't like. just because a band has become "mainstream" or has "sold-out" is no reason to turn against them. sometimes a band has to do what a band has to do. if their is anyone out their who is in the record business and has more to say or would like to correct me, please do so. i am not an authority on this subject. . .this is merely an attempt to bring others' logic and my own into some sort of agreement. tanx. P.S. Lance, I L O V E T H E C O M P I L A T I O N M O R E E V E R Y D A Y ------------------------------ From: Rebekah Henderson Subject: Cost of KOTS How much does it cost to join KOTS? I've seen 2 different prices. $12 and $8. I live in the USA, so I was wondering........ May Soundgarden be with you. Rebekah LUKE: Have you gotten any of my emails? They keep getting sent back to me. ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: Re: SG with G N' R vid this came from a PPV broadcast of a GNR show in Paris 1992. as far as I know what circulates is the complete show -- i don't recall GNR giving them much more of a set.... yep, it's the complete show. it might have been even shorter than usual because of the satellite time -- e.g., gnr had to hit the stage at a specific time to get the North American audience so they might have cut sg short, but i doubt it -- don't forget it was 1992 and they weren't the commercial alternative superstars they are now it's 6/6/92 at the Hippodrome in Paris... - --caryn At 09:58 PM 12/21/96 GMT, you wrote: >Hey, my friend found this old pro shot video of a Guns N' Roses concert. We >decided to watch it and to our surprise, SG opened for them and we got to >see them too. It wasn't the whole set though because they only showed >'Searching With My Good Eye Closed', 'Hands All Over', 'Face Pollution', and >'Jesus Christ Pose'. This is a great video, does anyone else have it? >Dave Miller >********************************************* >*I like to trade bootlegs. * >*Check out my Pearl Jam homepage at: * >*http://pwp.starnetinc.com/gwm/pearl.htm * >*You can find my bootlist there * >*PEARL JAM AND SOUNDGARDEN RULE! * >********************************************* > > > ------------------------------ From: SJordet@aol.com Subject: Re: Religion and SG Billy, To answer your question about Soundgarden and all their "religious crap", from what I gather, Soundgarden is not a very religious band. They're all Christian, but not incredibly enthusiastic about it. In one interview, Chris was asked: "Many of your songs, including Black Hole Sun, and Fourth of July, trade in dark, apocalyptic imagery. Does any of that flair for the dramatic come from your having grown up Catholic?" Chris: "Yeah, I'm sure some of it does, but you wouldn't catch it in an entire song." He was also asked: "Have you put your religious training behind you, or is it something you still think about a lot?" Chris: "No, it isn't. I feel sorry for the people who honestly swallow it. To me they're fish. I don't wanna be a fish." He describes Jesus Christ Pose, another supposedly religious song: " 'Jesus Christ Pose' , people think, is an angry religous reference, but it doesn't have a thing to do with that. That song was based entirely on seeing rock stars like Perry Farrell or some top model doing these photo shoots where they were the Christ figure with this stupid-ass crown of thorns and their arms out. It became fashionable, and it started to get annoying that people were starting to associate themselves with that, because they don't even know what it is other than a symbol that a whole bunch of weak people deify." No, Bill, I don't think Soundgarden is a very religious band. Oh, and my vote for the stand-in from the BIMH video is Ben (but then isn't that always my answer - Ben). No, Matt's hair didn't look quite right, but Ben didn't look quite right throughout the video. signed, Benlover (Sarah) ------------------------------ From: Billy Subject: Religion and SG hey, I think someone asked this question before but I don't remember the answer. A lot of Soundgraden's songs have religion and jesus and crap in 'em. I was wondering what they think of teh church and all that. I'll take any answer cause I'm not religous at all. ------------------------------ From: Aldrich Subject: Seattle Shows I know this post is a little late but the shows were Great! Especially the second of the two. This was by the far the best Soundgarden concert, maybe any concert I have ever seen. Unfortunately there is one thing that could have made it better...If Rocket From the Crypt had played. I have been a fan of their's for a while and I was very dissapointed when I discovered they were not playing. The Presidents were pretty cool the first night (Tues.), but the second night (Wed.) they just jumped around and played the same songs again. I had the greatest feeling Tuesday. Right after SG came on stage and were roaring through Spoonman I looked to the left side and saw Kim playing away and right then I realized how amazing it was that I was standing there watching one of greatest bands of all time at what some might call the peak of their career. Like I said, Wednesday's show was unbelievable. Chris seemed like he was holding back a little bit on Tues. but Wed. he went all out. Hearing Nothing To Say was so great and Head Down blew off the roof, but the best part was the (what seemed like) 20 minute Slaves and Bulldozers at the end. It was so awesome I couldn't believe that they could possibly come back out and perfom an encore. It was really great meeting some of the sommsters I have been talking to for so long. Too bad Soundgarden doesn't play more shows making it easier for us to get together. In response to all the questions about the painter. He started painting the stage and crowd during Pond and through the Presidents. Then after Soundgarden came on, he really started rocking out and painting all the details. It was hard to see too many details from where we were, but it looked like the pictures were pretty similar both nights. His hands moved across the canvas so fast it was amazing to watch. I'd like to find out more about his work. Well I gotta say that any doubt that I had that Soundgarden is my favorite band is now totally gone. It was so great to seeing Artis dancing around in the crowd during the show, it totally exemplified the entire mood of the night. Happy Holidays to everyone. ---Ryland _*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* If this isn't making sense, it doesn't make it lies... _*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_ aldrich@nwlink.com ------------------------------ From: endless_nameless@prodigy.com (GRRL NIKI FREER) Subject: Re: SG with G N' R vid Dave Miller wrote: >Hey, my friend found this old pro shot video of a Guns N' Roses concert. We >decided to watch it and to our surprise, SG opened for them and we got to >see them too. It wasn't the whole set though because they only showed >'Searching With My Good Eye Closed', 'Hands All Over', 'Face Pollution', and >'Jesus Christ Pose'. This is a great video, does anyone else have it? > yep, i have the opening thing on tape, but not the G N'R video itself. to tell you the truth, i don't think they sound all that great in it. it's outside, and that eats up SO much of their sound and chris's voice just sounds off. but the shooting job is good, so i like it somewhat. mind riot *and if i'm condemned, let me rest on my pillow* ____ "it's a feeling that everyone gets. you're happy with your life, everything's going well, things are exciting-- when all of a sudden you realize you're unhappy in the extreme, to the point of being really, really scared. there's no particaular event you can pin the feeling down to, it's just that you realize one day that everything in your life is FUCKED!!" hello, don't you know me, i'm the dirt beneath your feet...i'm luck's last match struck in the pouring down wind...sleep tight for me... ------------------------------ From: endless_nameless@prodigy.com (GRRL NIKI FREER) Subject: Re: Religion and SG Billy wrote: >hey, I think someone asked this question before but I don't remember the >answer. yep, there was a nice way too long discussion on it before... = ) > A lot of Soundgraden's songs have religion and jesus and crap in 'em. I >was wondering what they think of teh church and all that. I'll take any >answer cause I'm not religous at all. jesus christ pose isn't about jesus, i'll tell you that much. and chris was once quoted as saying "people who follow religion are like fish... and i don't wanna be a fish." i hope that answers yr question. mind riot ____ "it's a feeling that everyone gets. you're happy with your life, everything's going well, things are exciting-- when all of a sudden you realize you're unhappy in the extreme, to the point of being really, really scared. there's no particaular event you can pin the feeling down to, it's just that you realize one day that everything in your life is FUCKED!!" hello, don't you know me, i'm the dirt beneath your feet...i'm luck's last match struck in the pouring down wind...sleep tight for me... ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: Re: Seattle Shows At 06:53 PM 12/21/96 -0800, Aldrich wrote: >I had the greatest feeling Tuesday. Right after SG came on stage and were >roaring through Spoonman I looked to the left side and saw Kim playing away >and right then I realized how amazing it was that I was standing there >watching one of greatest bands of all time at what some might call the peak >of their career. yes, very similar for me too. they are just so comfortable and so 'at home' on stage... kim especially was just monumental. just made it seem effortless. >In response to all the questions about the painter. He >started painting the stage and crowd during Pond and through the Presidents. >Then after Soundgarden came on, he really started rocking out and painting >all the details. It was hard to see too many details from where we were, >but it looked like the pictures were pretty similar both nights. His hands >moved across the canvas so fast it was amazing to watch. I'd like to find >out more about his work. well, he called me today and let me know that one of the paintings was available. unfortunately I heard the price wrong after the show on tuesday (gee, i wonder why my ears were fucked up ;->) i thought he said one thousand or two thousand -- the price is **eight** thousand. that much i don't have, and if i did i'd buy a new CAR, not a painting of sg, no matter how awesome. ;-) if there's any of you out there with this much disposable income, let me know and i'll be happy to pass on his contact info. happy solstice to all! - --caryn ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 2 Issue 337] ****************************************