From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Thursday, 19 Dec 1996 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 09:15:15 EST Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Thursday, 19 Dec 1996 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: Back in business BUTOW single released..........again Re: very Soundgarden related Re: heartfist Nothingman Update Re: heartfist Seattle show! Re: heartfist Re: Nothingman Update Re: heartfist RE: fan club merchandise Re: fan club merchandise Re: Shirt Prices Re: Bush, Jesus Christ Poses, Susan Silver, and other shit. Re: there's only so many roads you can go... Peter Green Re: heartfist (or Flutter Schmutter!) HAVE I BEEN KNIGHTED? WOO HOO! Chris is no glamor boy...... Waxing Historic Re: Waxing Historic STuFF... Soundgarden's 1st Homecoming show Re: Waxing Historic Re: heartfist Heroin boy vs. the wolfman Stella and Fruit. Re: people Re: we can bleed together... Rocket From the Crypt Re: Waxing Historic flutter-oakland-LA-moby stuff Re: Stella and Fruit. Re: heartfist (or Flutter Schmutter!) Vote! Re: heartfist (or Flutter Schmutter) Burden 'stand in'? Re: sorry guys ------------------------------------------------------------ Subject: Back in business From: seth Just wanted to let everyone know that the Web page is back in business - -- I dumped about 80MB of files to another server (www.shocking.com). Right now the only files there are the full-length audio clips from the various Songs Of The Month (August and October alone are 80MB). I spent a few hours today trying to empty my inbox, adding a whole bunch of stuff to the site -- hopefully I'll get to do a bit more before I leave for New York. seth ------------------------------ From: psyche Subject: BUTOW single released..........again Just as I was thinking the UK BUTOW single might never be released.....I was proven wrong. I marched into HMV today, in a pretty good mood ('cos my Christmas break starts tomorrow) and what did I see?? A whole stack of BUTOW singles :)) They had both part 1 (Moby remix) and part 2 (live stuff and Splice), but unlike the Austr. version this one comes in a box w/ a poster (like BIMH). Well, since I have no intention of buying the Aust/part 2 single again, I only bought the one with the Moby remix......but I'm wondering what's on the poster. I assume it's taken from the video....... The strange thing is, three days ago, I walked into a used cd-store, and I saw the single w/ the Moby remix. Now why on earth would someone sell the single....even before it hit any other record stores?? (unless it was stolen of course). And they had the nerve to ask for 18$!.....for a *used* single whereas I got mine new for 6.80$........so Deb, don't worry about picking one up for me.....there are enough over here :) bye sabrina ------------------------------ From: Deborah Baker Subject: Re: very Soundgarden related Taylor wrote: >Honestly, I can't believe Cornell did that shoot. With all of his >previous glam bashing talk, he has turned right around and done a >totally glam photo shoot. I know we're all human, but really Chris... Chris a glam basher? No way ...the man likes T.Rex! And I have to agree with Monnica, I can't see that being in Details is either glam or a sign of selling out. The day I see a copy of Hello (UK gossip mag) with "Chris Cornell and Susan Silver invite you into their beautiful West Seattle home" complete with pics of them frolicking on the front lawn with the poms *then* I'll start to worry!!! (I'd still buy it though :-)!!) UKDeb ------------------------------ From: Deborah Baker Subject: Re: heartfist mindriot wrote: > in the song heartfist, chris sings "and she hit me with a hand of >broken nails..." a few times. >in the song rusty cage, chris sings "and hit me with a >hand of broken nails..." but only once . >so now i'm trying to figure out why these 2 songs have the same line.. > any suggestions? anyone else notice this? Heartfist was never officially released and it's not unusual for writers to take unused lines or lyrics and fit them into another song. I also noticed similarities between this song and Head Injury from UMOK. BTW am I the only person on this list who could imagine Jon Bon Jovi singing Flutter Girl?! Nowehere But You beats it hands down IMHO. UKDeb ------------------------------ From: Mike Groark Subject: Nothingman Update I just was reading a PJ mailing list and I think that I found our old friend Nothingdick. I posted to the list and never got a response. I am not sure which list it was, but it was either I Got Shit or Garden of Stone. Mike ------------------------------ From: psyche Subject: Re: heartfist At 11:33 12/18/1996 UKDeb wrote: >BTW am I the only person on this list who could imagine Jon Bon Jovi singing >Flutter Girl?! Nowehere But You beats it hands down IMHO. Deb, you know I agree with you on this one :) IMHO every other song on Stolen Prayers beats Flutter Girl......and I could actually imagine Gavin singing that one as well........he'd most probably turn it into a duet with Gwen or something..... but Mr. Bon Jovi is accurate enough... :) sabrina ------------------------------ From: ThNrthFace@aol.com Subject: Seattle show! I have one word for tonight.....AMAZING! Where do I start? Okay, I'll start from the begining. Most of us got in line at about 4, so we were in the very front. We chatted and finally, a little after 6, the let us in. We got the best seats in the house, we had a great view, and the sound is good there as well. Members in attendance, that I saw at least: Andrea, Bonnie, Jen, Vikki, Chris, Caryn, Nadia(+friend), Ryland, and my little bro Ryan. Not too shabby of a group if I might say so. Pond: Pond played a good set, and mixed up the songs real well. They changed the order from the Vancouver show, which was nice. It's good to keep people guessing. They also covered a Pantera song. It was during this time that as I glanced over to my right, I see the one and only Erin waving at me. We gave her a group wave after we noticed her. She then walked up and gave us After Show passes! I said before there should be a National Holiday in her honor. I meant it then, and I mean it now. She has done SO much for our group that words can not express enough gratitude or meaning. She is a gem, and I owe her thanks for some of the best times of my life. THANK YOU ERIN!!! Unfortunately, Rocket From The Crypt was unable to stay in town to play, so taking there spot was...... The President's of the United State's of America! They were awesome, as usual. It was quite funny when they came onstage, the lights were all out and Chris shouted that they were Pearl Jam. They said they were Pearl Jam several times through their set. And during "Kick Out The Jams", they sang about how Soundgarden was gonna rock our asses and stuff. It was great. I give the President's a hearty 2 thumbs up, especially the Dead Kennedy's cover. Soundgarden was on fire! Especially Kim. Artis the Spoonman did the Spoons during Spoonman and it was a treat I tell you. The show was incredible. I was entranced through most of the show. Chris's vocals were great. Matt's drumming was superb as usual. Ben was playing with vim and vigor. And Kim was going off like an atom bomb. In fact, he was "da bomb". I was left speechless. It was a truly great show. And, they did a bit of "Everybody's Got Something To Hide Except For Me And My Monkey" during SWMGEC. And the cool thing is that tomorrow we get to do it all over again! Also, there was a person doing a painting during the show. I'm too tired now to describe it, so would someone who was there do so? Or I can later. It was cool though. Over and out, more ramblings later. The List Thug, KTMS Founder, SOMMS Sheriff, and a few other things I can't remember right now, Aaron ------------------------------ From: ddba@pop.mindspring.com Subject: Re: heartfist >>BTW am I the only person on this list who could imagine Jon Bon Jovi singing >>Flutter Girl?! Nowehere But You beats it hands down IMHO. >IMHO every other song on Stolen Prayers beats Flutter Girl...... >but Mr. Bon Jovi is accurate enough... :) ack!!! kill you all...thats my favorite song that soundgarden has ever done...hearing that song was what took me from thinking SG was a good band to thinking, i love this band, i must hear more... and I could >actually imagine Gavin singing that one as well........he'd most probably >turn it into a duet with Gwen or something..... and on a side note, ya know, i had never even *heard* the name gavin or gwen till i heard them on this list...seems to me they are getting way_to_much attention here considering all anyone is doing, for the most part, is bashing them...just my opinion... DeeDee...feeling somewhat cranky from not enough sleep... <*R*> ******************************************************************************** Dee Dee Bradshaw-Autry "Beliefs are dangerous. Beliefs allow the mind to stop functioning. A non-functioning mind is clinically dead. Believe in nothing..." TOOL "This is what it looks like, this is what is feels like, this is what it tastes like...this is what you've done to me..." Stabbing Westward "Be careful with me...I am fragile. Im a bitch babe...and Im on fire" Garbage http://www.infochase.com/ent/deedee/index.html ******************************************************************************** ------------------------------ From: Mercyhurst Prep Library Subject: Re: Nothingman Update At 07:54 AM 12/18/96 -0500, you wrote: >I just was reading a PJ mailing list and I think that I found our old >friend Nothingdick. I posted to the list and never got a response. I >am not sure which list it was, but it was either I Got Shit or Garden of >Stone. > Mike > Now isn't that interesting?? Thanks for the detective work, Mike! btw, this Sg list is the only one I'm on--what on earth do the PJers talk about? How they think EV is God?? I can't even imagine! And I used to be a big PJ fan! Since things are winding down here a bit, let me just post my Xmas greetings to those still on the list. Have a holly, jolly Christmas and terrific New Year! To anyone I email, if you send me a message and I don't get back to you--I'm off for 2 glorious weeks from 3p.m. on Dec. 20 until January 6. See y'all next year! Hope Santa brings you all sorts of Sg stuff! deb ------------------------------ From: KAISERVRBL@aol.com Subject: Re: heartfist Bon Jovi singing Flutter Girl??????????? I'm going to vomit. Bon Jovi wouldn't even know how to begin to emote the kind of emotion that that song requires. Chris forgive her, she knows not what she says. Bon Jovi.............Gawd. Let's make it a SOMMS rule never to mention Jonny BJ here ever again... YUCK Lance "In words I'll never find" ------------------------------ From: Monnica Lewis Subject: RE: fan club merchandise Neither have I. ---------- From: jax00 To: somms Subject: fan club merchandise Date: Tuesday, December 17, 1996 6:17PM i am a member of the sg fan club and i have repeatedly read that you people get stuff in the mail - i have never received anything except for when i first signed up! have you guys gotten other stuff? don't they (sg) like their fans in florida? ------------------------------ From: Brian_Lew@iacnet.com Subject: Re: fan club merchandise I'm sure it has something to do with holiday mail delivery.. I haven't gotten anything yet either. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: fan club merchandise Author: jax00@ix.netcom.com (Jacqueline Franco) at SMTPGATE Date: 12/17/96 6:17 PM i am a member of the sg fan club and i have repeatedly read that you people get stuff in the mail - i have never received anything except for when i first signed up! have you guys gotten other stuff? don't they (sg) like their fans in florida? ------------------------------ From: Brian_Lew@iacnet.com Subject: Re: Shirt Prices One thing about merchandise sold at concerts is that all "big" venues charge bands to sell their merchandise in the building, which is why shirts are always more expensive at shows. It varies with different buildings and promoters - I saw Johnny Cash a couple of years ago in a small town north of San Francisco and shirts were $10 less at that show than a couple of nights later at his show in San Francisco... Rock 'n roll is a sleazy business. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: DO YOU TAKE THE SG CARD??? Author: GeekGirl@aol.com at SMTPGATE Date: 12/18/96 3:35 AM By the way.. one more little thing.. did anyone notice how much the long sleeve shirt is selling for from the fan club??? after I finish this little letter I will popping one off to them myself ( the fan club I mean ) ... seems that the fan club is selling the shirt for ( get this ) $ 22.00 and I bought my shirt ( as did MANY OTHERS!!!) at the DOTU shows for $ 35.00 Geee.. thats a bit of a mark-DOWN!!! I guess I am a little ticked....if I would have known that they were gonna offer the shirt through the fan club I would have waited....UUGGGHH!!!!! ------------------------------ From: Taylor Holmes Subject: Re: Bush, Jesus Christ Poses, Susan Silver, and other shit. stella wrote: > Mr. Apple I presume? > > stella HA! That's *exactly* what I thought. :) ------------------------------ From: Brian_Lew@iacnet.com Subject: Re: there's only so many roads you can go... The term "sellout" is thrown around far too liberally these days by music "journalists" (i.e. lonely, uncreative people looking for attention). Also, it seems to be used by people who are not really familiar with a band or their music. Just because a band broadens their musical stylings doesn't mean they've "sold out". Sellout to me is someone like The Who, who sold their songs for use in beer commercials, and then further reduced themselves to pandering to the public's perceived need to hear Tommy and Quadrophenia done AGAIN and AGAIN. They became a jukebox rather than a creative, artistic unit. Soundgarden's recent albums are what finally made me such a big fan, because they're obviously growing as artists and musicians and it's reflected in their music. I saw and heard SG back in the early 90's, but it was only with the recent albums that I finally "get" where they're coming from.. The Oakland show was far from perfect, but it wasn't horrible either. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: there's only so many roads you can go... Author: blind dog at SMTPGATE Date: 12/18/96 11:03 AM one critic in oakland, ca, went so far as to say that the show in his fair city "reeked of a sellout"." (me again) anyone from oakland (or any other show) want to confirm this? ------------------------------ From: Brian_Lew@iacnet.com Subject: Peter Green The Peter Green-era Fleetwood Mac of the late 60s to early 70s was a great band (this was before Stevie Nicks joined and turend them into a pop band). FM played some heavy duty guitar rock before selling out (there's that term again!). The Melvins covered the 1972 Peter Green-written Fleetwood Mac song 'Green Manalishi (w/ the Two Pronged Crown)' on their recent tour and did it essentially like the original FM version, which is an incredible song. Judas Priest also covered the same song... ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: there's only so many roads you can go... Author: blind dog at SMTPGATE Date: 12/18/96 11:03 AM this is a little something I picked off microsoft's music-news: "speaking of soundgarden, tln correspondent jennie ruggles reports that kim thayil, soundgarden's guitarist, has been in the glow after he reaed a _mojo_ interview with peter green, fleetwood mac's original guitarist, slagging britpop bands like oasis and suede, but praising soundgarden. "that's from a god guitarist - jimmy page's favourite guitarist, a guy who went crazy and threw away his royalty checks! here he is slamming countrymen's bands, but he liked us!" enthused thayil. ------------------------------ From: Deborah Baker Subject: Re: heartfist (or Flutter Schmutter!) At 10:05 18/12/96 -0500, Lance wrote: >Bon Jovi singing Flutter Girl??????????? > >I'm going to vomit. Bon Jovi wouldn't even know how to begin to emote the >kind of emotion that that song requires. > >Chris forgive her, she knows not what she says. > >Bon Jovi.............Gawd. > >Let's make it a SOMMS rule never to mention Jonny BJ here ever again... YUCK Hehehe I was waiting for this! :-) Well, I'm going to get myself in deeper here, Lance, and say Nowhere But You (to me at least) is more emotional and honest and *real* lyrically than Flutter Girl. Flutter Girl's lyrics kind of remind me of those 'baby, don't fall for me, I'm no good for you' type of songs that JBJ and co could handle very nicely! Don't get me wrong, I don't dislike the song *that* much, it's just far from the best that Chris can come up with, IMO. Maybe *if* it had made it past the demo stage and onto Superunknown (and I wonder why not, eh?), it *could* have evolved into something I would appreciate more. If you like it, that's fine, but I'm a Mailman/Slaves and Bulldozers kind of gal, myself,so.... Sabrina! This is where you come in and back me up! :-) UKDeb ------------------------------ From: mshaw@lib.occ.cccd.edu (RoseeMisst) Subject: HAVE I BEEN KNIGHTED? WOO HOO! Hey all, I got my share of SG goodies in the mail yesterday also. But I have a question: How'd the hell did they get my adress(or any of your adresses for that matter) I'm not even emailing from home yet(until tonight). The only thing I remember giving seth was my email adress! I think that there may be a lurker from the Knights of the Soundtable. That's one of my theories. But I still can't figure out the adress theory. Someone help me!! Freaking out like Sandra Bullock on "The Net" RoseeMisst ------------------------------ From: Slave4cc@aol.com Subject: Chris is no glamor boy...... Someone said they were dissapointed cuz Chris was doing glam photos for Details mag....................... Well, picture this.....your a rich, famous, rock star, adored by millions of people.....of course your gonna have your pic's taken! People will buy this mag just for those pics and the interview. (However, I think Chris must use oil of olay or something cuz his skin is perfect, man. Not blemish one....if you believe this, lemme sell you a bridge.....) And somebody else said they thought some people are more interested in how SG looks than their music. Do you really think anybody on THIS list is more interested in their looks than their MUSIC? Cmon. We deserve more credit than that. I cant help being a heterosexual female!! To me, its a definite plus that they are cute, but if they were fat cows the music is still excellent. Remember Soundgarden hovered just on the edge of real big fame and success for a long time. Nirvana exploded first while SG was still somewhat obscure. SG really didnt hit it until SU. Then they finally got the fame and recognitian they deserved and worked hard for. I think even if Kurt hadnt died, all the Nirvana hype was winding down....SG hype seems to be hanging on steadily since SU. Thanks in part I think to Susan and her fantastic management/marketing skills......look at what SG does for their fans....xmas post cards and now a SG phone/fan card?! I dont think Kurt would have flipped a booger our way, much less sent us an xmas post card. And Bush, well some of their songs are ok, but I dont own any of their CD's or know their names or anything. I like Stone Temple Pilots too. I think its unfair to accuse them of being solely a rip off band. I see that smile, see that smile, see that smile on your face. I hear you cry, hear you wail, see that smile on your face. Carol ------------------------------ From: Taylor Holmes Subject: Waxing Historic With Mike's recent post about possibly locating sir Nothingman, I could'nt help but smile thinking of some of the more interesting events that have occurred since I've been on the list. I can only account for about the last 9 - 10 months, so here goes what I can remember: 1) Nothingman post fest :| 2) The Nothingman shirt conspiracy :( 3) Newbie Flame Wars :( 4) The DOTU Debate :| 5) The DeeDee shirt revival :) 6) The Shroom/Lawyer situation :( 7) Thug elected SOMMS sherrif :) 8) The Chicago SOMMSfest :) 9) The Caryn episode :( 10) The Apple Controvercy :) 11) The B-Side Collection :) 12) Whatever the future holds... These are just off the top of my head, so please add some more if you like. Later, Taylor ------------------------------ From: ADDC Subject: Re: Waxing Historic On Wed, 18 Dec 1996, Taylor Holmes wrote: > With Mike's recent post about possibly locating sir Nothingman, I > could'nt help but smile thinking of some of the more interesting events > that have occurred since I've been on the list. I can only account for > about the last 9 - 10 months, so here goes what I can remember: > > 1) Nothingman post fest :| > 2) The Nothingman shirt conspiracy :( > 3) Newbie Flame Wars :( > 4) The DOTU Debate :| > 5) The DeeDee shirt revival :) > 6) The Shroom/Lawyer situation :( > 7) Thug elected SOMMS sherrif :) > 8) The Chicago SOMMSfest :) > 9) The Caryn episode :( > 10) The Apple Controvercy :) > 11) The B-Side Collection :) > 12) Whatever the future holds... > How could you forget number 13 which would be Would You Have Sex With Chris If He Had Aids..remember this thread that came and offended everyone and then disappeared just as quickly? Damn I got a good memory. vincent ------------------------------ From: ShRooMGrLz@aol.com Subject: STuFF... Kiddies, I have to agree with the idea of letting this Bush/MTV thread die. Everytime it seems like it's finally over, someone brings it up again. Jeez... listen to whatever music you want, and don't whine about the music you hate. I don't care WHO Gavin is dating, and if you don't like MTV... DON'T FUCKING WATCH IT. =) I just want to thank Seth really quick for not dumping any files from the website. Finding another server to take them was really smooth, and it's a huge relief to know that my SG fix will still be there whenever I need it. ;-) It's been really groovy chatting with my fellow SOMMSters on AOL recently. Especially all you lurkers. Remember everyone, keep your eyes peeled for the SOMMS room on AOL in the evenings... usually Dena, Aaron and I will be present. Oh, and thanks to Aaron who helped me get my IRC connection set up. I was *finally* in #somms last night... but OF COURSE it was empty. And there was only one person in #soundgarden, but I couldn't get the little fucker to talk to me. Oh well. At least I'll be able to attend the next hot tub party. =) Guess what? My tongue is blue because I've been licking color copies of those pictures that Vikki sent me. =) I wonder if it would be possible to make flavored ink? Seriously though... if anyone wants to send me naked pictures of SG, I wouldn't mind a bit. AND SOMEONE REALLY SHOULD SCAN THAT PICTURE OF MATT WITH HIS PANTS DOWN. =) Ok, I'm done babbling now. 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Sorry to say that I missed most of Pawn, but Rocket couldn't be there, so The Presidents came in and did their stuff!! It was great to see them helping out Soundgarden!!! Many of you fellow Sommsters had complained about Sg's show's in the past, claiming that there was really no effort involved on the band's part, but OH MY GOD I have never seen them play any better in all of the 5 show's I have been to!!!! Chris hit all of his high range-It gave me goosebumps! He was a screaming fool last night! I must say....It must have felt good for them to be home! The only thing I wished they could have played more of was songs from LTL. (only played HAO) I wish I could go to the last show tonight!!! Chris had appologized for making us wait, and said "Hopefully, I will make it up to you tonight" -was that an understatement!!! They looked great, sounded great And I was glad to see my boys all rested! I will say again: THIS WAS THE GREATEST SG SHOW I HAVE EVER ATTENDED-YOU GUYS ROCK! Seattle thanks you for the mind blowing show!!! ------------------------------ From: ddba@pop.mindspring.com Subject: Re: Waxing Historic >On Wed, 18 Dec 1996, Taylor Holmes wrote: > >> With Mike's recent post about possibly locating sir Nothingman, I >> could'nt help but smile thinking of some of the more interesting events >> that have occurred since I've been on the list. I can only account for >> about the last 9 - 10 months, so here goes what I can remember: >> >> 1) Nothingman post fest :| >> 2) The Nothingman shirt conspiracy :( >> 3) Newbie Flame Wars :( >> 4) The DOTU Debate :| >> 5) The DeeDee shirt revival :) ******CORRECTION********** the Dena shirt revival...:) ******************************************************************************** Dee Dee Bradshaw-Autry "Beliefs are dangerous. Beliefs allow the mind to stop functioning. A non-functioning mind is clinically dead. Believe in nothing..." TOOL "This is what it looks like, this is what is feels like, this is what it tastes like...this is what you've done to me..." Stabbing Westward "Be careful with me...I am fragile. Im a bitch babe...and Im on fire" Garbage http://www.infochase.com/ent/deedee/index.html ******************************************************************************** ------------------------------ From: "Al Babcock" Subject: Re: heartfist > oh, and i've almost got the guitar music worked out for Mind Riot. if > i ever get around to writing it down instead of just knowing what to > do, i'll post it to seth. it may not be exactly right, since this is > the first time i've been able to sit down and tab out a song for > myself, but it's close. = ) I could help you with the tab for Mind Riot if you need it I think I'm pretty close ------------------------------ From: Geoff Subject: Heroin boy vs. the wolfman I finally saw the Details magazine that everyone was talking about today. Boy his head is big on the cover. But what is all this talk about the "heroin look"? I think some people are buying too much into media crap. All I saw is the wolfman. OOWWWWOOOOOOHHHH!!! Somebody mentioned how perfect his skin looked. All I gotta say is, isn't it amazing what they can do with an airbrush/computer? Ciao, Geoff p.s. I'm finally fuckin done!! No mmore school til january. In the words of the wise and all knowing Homer J Simpson: "Woohoo!" ------------------------------ From: "Hudzen Ten" Subject: Stella and Fruit. Stella, What do you mean: Mr. Apple? What do fruit have to do with this? Anyway, does anyone have Silver's email addie? I'm trying to interview Sean Kinney, and the only way I can schedule it is through the management. HUDZEN TEN - --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Moonsta693@aol.com Subject: Re: people I live in a little town called Aberdeen, just inside Matawan. It's in Monmouth County. I do get those"who are they" too, but usually I just say, "ever hear of Black Hole Sun", and they say, "oh ya, those guys" or " ya, that video scares me" or "yea, they suck"or "ya, the lead singer is really cute, but the band sucks". Hurts my heart to hear that. I guess it's just because I look into their music deeper than looks. The original preety noose ------------------------------ From: Josh_Garza@teachnet.edb.utexas.edu (Josh Garza) Subject: Re: we can bleed together... blind dog,s325961=40student.uq.edu.au,Internet TeachNet Gatew writes:= btw, can someone tell me where the computer game is? even= though I'm on holidays, I'm yet to find it :) when u are like 'walking' through the superunknown stairs thing, just click= ing left or right with the arrows, and u will find it... i'm not gonna tel= l you *exactly* where it is. heh. unless someone already did and then the whole fun is gone, huh - -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-= =3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- TeachNet, College of Education, University of Texas, Austin Texas - -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-= =3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- ------------------------------ From: Laurie Casey Subject: Rocket From the Crypt Ok, I heard this morning they didn't open last night, and a frantic Chris got the Presidents in for them, any word on who is opening tonight tho? Last I heard no one had a clue... Laurie ------------------------------ From: Taylor Holmes Subject: Re: Waxing Historic Dee Dee wrote: > the Dena shirt revival...:) > Aargh! Sorry, I got confused... Thanks for the correction. :) Carol wrote: > Well, picture this.....your a rich, famous, rock star, adored by > millions of > people.....of course your gonna have your pic's taken! Definitely, but I would *not* wear makeup because "ugly isn't what I want to be". Later, Taylor "I painted my eyes.." - C.C. (Deville?) :) ------------------------------ From: psyche Subject: flutter-oakland-LA-moby stuff DeeDee wrote: >ack!!! kill you all...thats my favorite song that soundgarden has ever >done...hearing that song was what took me from thinking SG was a good band >to thinking, i love this band, i must hear more... well, saying the song isn't my favorite was just an opinion, and I won't condemn those who love it..... personally I will never like that song as much as I like some of their other stuff. >and on a side note, ya know, i had never even *heard* the name g___ or g___ >till i heard them on this list...seems to me they are getting way_to_much >attention here considering all anyone is doing, for the most part, is >bashing them...just my opinion... The only reason I mentioned them and the lead-singer of the group-with-the-same-name-as-a-former-presidents-surname in particular, was 'cos I could imagine him covering that song. I'm not bashing him or anything....... there are other groups who I'm sure could cover that song, but if I start mentioning them, I'll get into even more trouble :)...but I'd like to add that the "ooohhh" part in the middle reminds me of U2. Then Lance wrote: >Bon Jovi singing Flutter Girl??????????? > >I'm going to vomit. Bon Jovi wouldn't even know how to begin to emote the >kind of emotion that that song requires. and then Deb: >Well, I'm going to get myself in deeper here, Lance, and say Nowhere But You >(to me at least) is more emotional and honest and *real* lyrically than >Flutter Girl. Flutter Girl's lyrics kind of remind me of those 'baby, don't >fall for me, I'm no good for you' type of songs that JBJ and co could handle >very nicely! When I first heard the song Flutter Girl, I got a mental image of JBJ sitting there with his acoustic guitar somewhere in the desert howling the song......so shoot me, it's not my fault what my brain comes up with. Don't know why, but like Deb, the lyrics are the kind JBJ would like. But as I said before, eveyone has a different opinion and a way of looking at a song/lyrics differently, so if you like it, good for you. I don't exactly *hate* the song....I don't hate any SG-songs......although "Fresh Deadly Roses" is getting there. Now on to a different topic: blind dog asked about the Oakland/LA shows, and up 'til now all the reviews I've read actually commended SG on their performance. I think I posted one review on the list, there's another one on Seth's page now, and I'm going to type one up from KERRANG! (which gave SG 5/5 for their show) really soon. Another thing: I finally heard the full-length Moby remix, and it's.....umm..ok, I guess. They never play the chorus though, and Chris hums quite a lot. Actually the humming part has been in my head all day...... sabrina ------------------------------ From: tonerkin Subject: Re: Stella and Fruit. At 10:37 PM 12/18/96 -0000, you wrote: > Stella, > > What do you mean: Mr. Apple? What do fruit have to do with this? Orange you glad you ask? We just have affectionate nicknames for each other. Like Thug, Hootchie, Medium Joe, bitch(oops didn't mean to say that)!!! I guess Stella just decided to call you Mr. Apple(bad Stella)......and I bet it's a Washington state apple. Cool Soundgarden's home state so I guess that keeps it Soundgarden related!! :) toni ------------------------------ From: tonerkin Subject: Re: heartfist (or Flutter Schmutter!) > >Well, I'm going to get myself in deeper here, Lance, and say Nowhere But You >(to me at least) is more emotional and honest and *real* lyrically than >Flutter Girl. Flutter Girl's lyrics kind of remind me of those 'baby, don't >fall for me, I'm no good for you' type of songs that JBJ and co could handle >very nicely! > > > >Sabrina! This is where you come in and back me up! :-) > >UKDeb The drowning woman is searching for a lifepreserver!!! and trying to drag Sabrina down with her!!! You mentioned JBJ on the Soundgarden mailing list!!!!! You're just lucky it's the holiday season and you typed all those articles for the page or Seth would yield his unsubscribe sword!!! :O One more slip up like that and I tell all 700 people about some of those albums you have lurking deep in the hall closet!!!! toni ------------------------------ Subject: Vote! From: seth OK people, get the word out: Our Unofficial Soundgarden Homepage has been nominated as one of the Best Of 96 on Yahoo and MTV's new joint project, unfURLed. If it gets enough votes, well, I don't know what happens, but I'm sure it'll be cool. :) All you have to do is decide whether or not the site is better than unofficial sites for Oasis, Beck, Madonna, Phish, and Hole, and then cast your vote. There are other categories for official sites, graphics, etc. If you can, please vote. The URL: http://www.unfurled.com thanks, seth ------------------------------ From: Deborah Baker Subject: Re: heartfist (or Flutter Schmutter) Hey Sabrina! Let's go burn down some churches or drown some puppies! :-) UKDeb ------------------------------ From: "V. Anselmo" Subject: Burden 'stand in'? From the KOTS update included with the Christmas postcard, calling card, and merchandise catalogue: "The cinematic Burden in My Hand video required three long, hot days of shooting in Death Valley, (Which band member used a 'stand in' beneath the jet's shadow?)... Hmm, I never heard about this. Anybody? My guess is Matt. Also of interest: "...This can be observed in the linking together of earlier and later song titles. For example, Get on the Snake and Ty Cobb complement each other, bringing out a hidden message. It's rumored both songs have something to do with the provocative Kevin's Mom, who we all hope to meet someday." OK, the Kevin's Mom rumor is just KOTS humor and I can pretty well figure out the, ehem, metaphor of Get on the Snake but I don't see the hidden message/Ty Cobb connection. I think someone mentioned this but I haven't seen the pictures yet: "Another example of the band going over the top are Frank W. Ockenfels 3 photos of Chris and Kim next to the likes of Little Richard and Chuck Berry in Rolling Stone's 'Images of Rock and Roll.' And lastly, "Never ones to miss a Mariners game, at New York's Yankee Stadium this Summer, SG band members looked up to see WELCOME SOUNDGARDEN flash across the electronic scoreboard." - -Vikki :) ------------------------------ From: BdMtrFngr Subject: Re: sorry guys When Gavin said that soundgarden was horrible, it became personal. I like their music actually, so I read the article. And then he says something stupid like that? He could have said that he doesn;e understand soundgarden, or he doesn't like them...but to say they are horrible? That is personal because since soundgarden is my favorite band, i guess according to Gavin, my taste sucks. He also says smashing pumpkins sucks too( though i dont like them). Its funny how bands that he modelled his whole career after suck to him. On Tue, 17 Dec 1996, Jen Kern wrote: > Okay--I often times bite my tongue and just let things pass, but I've > really, REALLY had it with the Gavin/Bush comments. Okay, so > many/most of you don't like them. Great fine. That is your personal > opinion and that is what is SO WONDERFUL about music.....there are > different styles out there that appeal to different people. But > really, last time I checked, I don't believe that anyone on the list > has personally spoken with Gavin or Bush and therefore I find it > really sad that people would be jumping on the bandwagon and going > off on them PERSONALLY when you don't even know them. SO they don't like > SG, well that is their own opinion, let it be. It doesn't make them less > of a person or a band. I read an article where our beloved Kim said > he hates Europe--so he doesn't like it....are we going to go off on > him and say he's a dumbshit for not liking Europe???? I don't think > so. So why do we find the need to go off on Gavin/Bush for their > personal opinions?? Are they not as valid because they don't agree > with you and go against SG? > Once again, I don't think so. I happen to like Bush (so hate me)...I may > not find them to be the most creative band I've heard, but I do enjoy > listening to their music. Now....enough already, PLEASE!!!!! Let's > get on with more important things--like SOUNDGARDEN!!! Thanks for > listening to me rant-- JEN > ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 2 Issue 335] ****************************************