From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Tuesday, 17 Dec 1996 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 02:05:41 EST Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Tuesday, 17 Dec 1996 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: Spanish People and some new stuff A very SG Christmas to all.... sg on tha radio SG videos chris & michael jordan russell records another PN Zen Metal hey andri... SOMMS listers Kick ass Phone Card Very soundgarden related we can bleed together... Comments about Chris Seth's vacation NEWCOMER BUT LONG TIME SOUNGARDEN FAN Re: MOSH Soundgarden Video RE: Killer cover song Re: Killer cover song (Come Together) and the candle was burning yesterday... screaming A curiousity... Re: A curiousity... ------------------------------------------------------------ From: la_gusa Subject: Spanish People and some new stuff Hi everyone. I=B4m a Spanish guy who is tying to find spanish soundgarden fan people all over the net. If a spanish guy want to mail me my e-mail is= slurp@arrakis.es. Other things i want to know are: - - Information =B4bout a SG album called NEW. - - Information =B4bout how many and how are the SG boxes. - - Information =B4bout SG recopilations of b-sides. - - Information =B4bout SG release of a b-side recopilation. - - Information =B4bout some internet good music stores with SG "non album" records (singles, recopilations, promos,...). I want to talk to the SG fans. Please meet me at #emuladores channel or #galicia channel on Undernet-IRC servers. ------------------------------ From: redfive@ozonline.com.au (Hando) Subject: A very SG Christmas to all.... Hey all, Whoah! way too long since last post ( this time of year I guess ) You all well and happy? Glad to hear it. Just a line to say I'm unsubbing over Christmas, but will resub before the SG Oz shows in Jan. Taking much needed Yuletide R'n'R in South Australia. Hoping wherever you are you have a great Christmas and New Year. To those Oz sommsters going to the Melbourne Big Day Out and the SG solo show at Festival Hall ( you still coming down Stephen?? ) drop me a line and we'll try to catch up. Oh yeah, briefly caught the BUTOW video the other night ( yeah, I know, call me slow ) - not too bad at all. Take it easy, folks Hando redfive@ozonline.com.au ------------------------------ From: "KETELAAR M.H." Subject: sg on tha radio Hi all you fans I was listening to the dutch radio 3 FM yesterday and at once they were playing stuff from the Temple of the dog, it was really cool. There were also some interviews with the players It feels fuckin' shit to blow your test like I did Martijn ------------------------------ From: Evelyn Torres Subject: SG videos This is only my second time posting so I apologize in advance if I'm not doing this right. Since Soundgarden have quite a few music videos out now, does anyone know if there are any plans in the near or not so distant future to release a video with all of the music videos? Did that make sense? Uh well if it didn't keep in mind that it was quarter to 6 am when I sent this so,if I'm a bit flaky... Thanks Ev ------------------------------ From: jax00@ix.netcom.com (Jacqueline Franco) Subject: chris & michael jordan hey i'm a big fan of both. can someone please tell me what chris said at the chicago concert about michael jordan? thanks. j ------------------------------ From: jax00@ix.netcom.com (Jacqueline Franco) Subject: russell records regarding that BUTOW bootleg 09/96 ? that steven russell, jr mentioned: please let me in on it steven, please email me and let me know the details! thankx j ------------------------------ From: "stimpy1" Subject: another PN Hi listen i dont know if anyone saw it but i saw at mtv-europe another vision oh Preety Noose in that video u see soundgarden play in a place with lots of like "colors" and lite and you just see them play but in like many "engals" and shapes it`s an amaizing video and i like it very much!!! in mtv-europe they show most of the that this virsion i just told u about but they showd 1 time the mtv-america virsion the one you can download from seth`s page i`m open for comments :) take care now byebye then - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - --- This Mail Was Send By Stimpy1 Email:stimpy1@netvision.net.il - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - --- ------------------------------ From: Enrique Olavarria Subject: Zen Metal Hi. can't remember when was the last time i posted something. anyway. i was checking through some old papers i had in the last drawer of my desk and found a torn xerox copy of an article on soundgarden. i remember i took it from a RIP special on "new" bands (from 1989 i think). each band had a page with a picture and 2 or 3 paragraphs about them. it included soundgarden (picture with Jason Everman who had just joined the band), mother love bone, mind funk (Everman later joined them) and many others. i would post the whole thing but i'm missing half of the last paragraph (i only have the first 3 or 4 words of each line). anyway, this is how the article introduces the band to RIP readers who probably hadn't heard about soundgarden until then (this is also related to the soundgarden/led zeppelin thread): "If you took Led Zeppelin and early Black Sabbath, gave them college/art-school educations, then tossed them in a Seattle garage, you'd have Soundgarden. Sort of." anyway, finding this reminded me of the first time i ever saw the name soundgarden in a magazine. it was on a mag called "metalshop" (or something like that) i picked up when i was up in the US on Dec 1989. it listed the Top 10 albums of 1989 and Louder than Love was 8th. I remember King's X's "Gretchen goes to Nebraska" was first and Sepultura's "Beneath the Remains" was 3rd or 4th. i thought the mag was pretty cool because they didn't include all the glam buttrock bands that everyone else listed in their Top 10s. There was also a great SG pic. when i got back home (Lima, Peru) i got LTL and, after a few listens to adapt my mind to songs like "ugly truth", "power trip", "no wrong no right", it became my favourite album and soundgarden my favourite band. If any of you have interesting stories on how you got hooked to SG i'd sure like to hear them. enrique. ------------------------------ From: endless_nameless@prodigy.com (GRRL NIKI FREER) Subject: hey andri... hey andri (sorry sommsters, i can't find her address!) um, i was wondering what show you went to to get those fabulous pictures you sent me! wow! i almost died when i saw the up-close ones of ben, kim and chris. and the fact that you could see MATT in the kit in one of them was just great. thanks, and write me off the list. mind riot ------------------------------ From: KAISERVRBL@aol.com Subject: SOMMS listers Kick ass Hey gang, As you have all heard by now the Seattle shows were cancelled and we did not get to see them in the hometown. But God we had a great fucking time anyway! JEN & BONNIE are goddesses! The whole trip could have been for bust but these two beautiful women showed me and my friend Bill around the city for not one, not two, BUT THREE ENTIRE DAYS. God I would have been more than grateful for just one but everynight when we said our farewells they "offered" to come get us again the next day. It was so cool! and having never been to Seattle, they showed us stuff that we never would have been able to see if we were just wandering tourists ("The" Sound Garden for one) And to top it all off JEN (who by the way is a jewel of angelic beauty & class) was deathly ill the whole time but went totally out of her way to keep us company while we were there. I know I touted her virtues when she got my Tix to the show for me, but the extent to which she went for us, I LOVE HER NOW & AM FOREVER INDEBTED. Thanks SIREN GIRL!!!!! I can't wait til I get to see you again in the Spring! We also met a lot of SOMMSters past and present Ryan (thugs little bro, Thug was down and out with the flu I'll make it a priority to meet you next time Sheriff), Andrea, & Chris. & I have never been so warmly greeted by people who had never met me in my life!!!!!!!!! Then, I recieved all of your condolences and talked to many more of you at length Shroom & Dena: love ya, can't wait to meet cha! All of this added up PROVES that SOMMS people are the finest and most ass-kicking group of people in the world!!!!! Sure the band didn't play & I wanted to cut my throat initially, but the SOMMS people picked up the ball and turned what could have been a bad scene into the greatest vacation of my life! Thankx guys Lance P.S. hey SIREN GIRL Had any "turtle" dreams lately?(miss ya & it's only Monday) ------------------------------ From: Slave4cc@aol.com Subject: Phone Card Hello, I just got the pack-o-stuff in the mail (cute xmas card), and there was some reference to a phone card, altho there was not creature like this in my goodie envelope. I wanna know, what phone card? and, why a phone card? Also am wondering if SG did play in Seattle afterall. Did anyone see it and how was the home town show? Just a girl with no irritating billowing ego...... Carol ------------------------------ From: Moonsta693@aol.com Subject: Very soundgarden related Hola Gentes, Anyway, on the subject of Soundgarden becoming a very commercial band, I have heard many sound clips all over the TV. On Friday, I heard a clip of BHS on Dateline NBC. It may be for the reason SG has become so big, but I know it bothers some people. My opinion, I like the idea, but as long as they don't let the success go to their heads(which I doubt will happen) A good idea i had today....SOMMS bumper stickers. I think we should show our SOMMS pride. I know I have. I drew the Badmotorfinger wheel on the blackboard in the band room at the high school, and next to it I put "SOMMSters RULE!!!!" no one understood it, but hey. I might just be the youngest on this list, but I'd save the sticker 'till I get my first car. Well, this is for anyone that actually cares to read my posts: I thought I'd say, Merry Chris-tmas and a Happy New Year, now, since I'm sending out my cards today. The original preety noose ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: we can bleed together... On Thu, 12 Dec 1996, Greg Dunbar wrote: > I don't have Louder Than Live so I don't know if Gun and Get On The Snake > are the same from this single as the video. At the start of Get On The Snake yep, they're the same songs. I don't know if the little blurb before 'get on the snake' is from the video, since I haven't watched it in quite awhile, but it's a good bet that it is. > As for A Splice Of Spacejam, it is quite good. It's just a jam session as a > lot of people expected, but Soundgarden sure know how to jam! It's got a > cool bass part in it, and the guitars just sort of go all over the place, I know I've already said this before, but I still don't like this track. as much as there is going on musically in the song, it is less interesting to me than the first of its type ('jerry garcia's finger') or even motorcycle loop, which has an element of humour. with the sheer volume of material that each member of the band writes, it is a bit disappointing that we (at least in australia, from all reports) get shackled not only with audio versions of songs from videos we in all probability own, but we get an instrumental track that already appeared on the cd+! speaking of the cd+, I finally got a new computer at home, and the alive in the superunknown installed without a hitch. to the chagrin of some listers, I didn't even have to load the extra disk of corel drivers, so I was happy about that. so thanks to a certain lister who has had too many dollar bills in his wallet in the past, I have now viewed almost all there is to view on the cd+. I have kind of mixed feelings about it. some of the stuff is cool, but to me it seems to have a fairly limited range, and certainly has a short expiration date. cool stuff: the video section is cool, if only that I get to see the video for 'the day I tried to live' (which was not released here). the "hidden" video of 'kickstand' is good, as are the two videos of artis doing his thing. I like the animated bmf wheel, but there is this other weird screaming face that I don't understand the significance of. the computer-generated video for 'superunknown' is also cool; I especially like the live video of ben and matt playing drums together. other things of note - the interview with the band concerning the album _superunknown_, the little bhs face that pages through the photo collage and the picture of chris with his finger up his nose. oddly enough, that was an interesting image :) uncool/dull stuff that could have been left off with no hassle or even replaced: the audio tracks are of no import to me, since I already have them (I know that is no fault of the makers, but it is a useless section for me); and the various images that play some instrumental noise are kind of silly, unless you can make a song out of that one page. btw, can someone tell me where the computer game is? even though I'm on holidays, I'm yet to find it :) ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide - words by kim thayil ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: "Jamie C." Subject: Comments about Chris Chris Cornell = one of the greatest "rock" singers of all time Chris Cornell = very talented songwriter Chris Cornell = lyrical genius (sort of) Chris Cornell = a breath of fresh air for those of us who hate pompous, arrogant, lame-ass frontmen like Gavin Rossdale and Eddie Vedder (among many others) Chris Cornell isn't = sporting this so-called "heroin look". As people get older, they stop worrying about being big muscle-bound jerkoffs. Some, like Rollins, enjoy working out day in and day out to keep big. I think Cornell is just maturing. He doesn't need to be all pumped up. That's just my own thoughts on the subject. By the way, that Gavin Rossdale piece of shit is dating Gwen from No Doubt. How the hell can she stand him?? I just can't see it. She sings about things that matter. Rossdale just spews whatever comes to mind. "Warm sun feed me up, I'm leery loaded up." WTF??? Someone pay for him to take some sort of writing course! that's all. - -- +jamie c.+ ********************************************************************** * |------------------------------------------| The * * | "and in your sad machines, | Buck And Tony * * | you'll forever stay...." | Experience * * | -Billy Corgan ("Here Is No Why") | ---------------- * * |------------------------------------------| for free * * | stuff, * * ^^^^sHAmPoO iS beTTa...i gO oN^^^^ | write to * ^^^^fIrSt aNd i cLEaN tHe HAir^^^^ | jcare@callisto.uwinnipeg.ca* * | subject:Arabian Knights * * | * ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ From: "Mark" Subject: Seth's vacation Well deserved, have a good one!!!!! Cathey I don't remember half the time If I'm hiding or I'm lost.....but I'm on my way ------------------------------ From: ANAVRIN113@aol.com Subject: NEWCOMER BUT LONG TIME SOUNGARDEN FAN I AM NEW ON THIS BUT HAVE LUVVVVVVVVVEEEEEDDDDD SOUNDGARDEN SINCE THE FIRST TIME I HAVE HEARD THEM. AND JUST A CURIOSITY, IF YOU READ THIS I'D LIKE TO KNOW EVERYONE'S FAVORITE SOUNDGARDEN SONG. THANX!!!!!!!!! ------------------------------ From: alisa brozena Subject: Re: MOSH Soundgarden Video I also recieved the video, and it's really good. Outshined live was amazing. It was pretty cool cause the videos were all copies of the masters. Everyone should check it out. Thanks lee *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* I close my eyes and walk 1000 years, 1000 years beyond the mind... -C. Cornell *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* ------------------------------ From: alisa brozena Subject: RE: Killer cover song yes, it's on fresh deadly rarities along with other cool covers *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* I close my eyes and walk 1000 years, 1000 years beyond the mind... -C. Cornell *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Killer cover song (Come Together) From: seth > yes, it's on fresh deadly rarities along with other cool covers that may be true, but instead of supporting unauthorized, for-profit collections of material that soundgarden has already officially released, it might be better to try to find an authorized recording of the song. sg's cover of "come together" can be found on the following: - "hands all over" promo cd/12", 1990 - "hands all over" UK CD/10", 1990 - loudest love, Japanese CD, 1990 - foreshocks, promo CD, 1994 you're probably better off finding one of the above than buying fresh deadly rarities anyway: i picked up the loudest love cd last year for $12, and i'm sure the boot costs a whole lot more. seth ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: and the candle was burning yesterday... just a couple of notes: I received two taped shows from steve (thank you muchly) last week, and both are *excellent*. one was of the lolla show in syracuse, which seems to be a fairly standard setlist and performance. now I know what bhs sounds like solo, and it sounds pretty good. I think chris is able to convey more emotion in that setting during the song. as much as I like big guitars, his voice has a certain quality that would be interesting to hear in an "unplugged" performance. I don't think the acoustic version of 'like suicide' is any indication of his worthiness in this area. the rest of it wasn't mindblowing, but more than musically sound and was of good enough quality to make it worthwhile. the second tape was one I have been waiting for for quite awhile. the reading show of 1995 is an absolute killer. it includes the only version I know of 'fourth of july' (which *rocks* and should be performed at all their shows), a wonderful version of 'head down', a great cover of 'waiting for the sun' and 'I want you', an *amazing* finale (it would have been interesting to hear it with lyrics, though). but most importantly, towards the end of the show, the band unveils one of its newest songs - 'christi'. ladies and gentlemen, this song blew my socks off. let us all cross our fingers that it makes it onto the next record (which we could have before the end of next year from the sounds of things). in drum! magazine, matt is quoted as saying that 'christi' is one of his favourite soundgarden songs, and that he hopes chris can get the lyrics fully together for inclusion on the next record. overall, the lyrics on the reading version are very hard to decipher, but the final line "you're gonna die without me" is repeated a couple of thunderous times and comes across *very* clearly. this is a very powerful song, and one that all listers should endeavour to hear. and in this individual case, I don't mind if they save it for the next album. it deserves to be more than a b-side. ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide - words by kim thayil ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ Subject: screaming From: art.underwood@compudata.com (ART UNDERWOOD) HEy everyone I got yet another question. Sorry about this. Ready here goes... Does anyone know if there is any B side albums for SG's Screaming Life/Fopp album. Hey people I've only heard from 4 other NJ SOMMSters and I was wondering if there is any more..just write and tell me ok.ok bye. ------------------------------ From: ShRooMGrLz@aol.com Subject: A curiousity... I was just searching song lyrics for the hell of it, and I came across this song by the Suicide Machines (ska-punk band... sounds like old Rancid) called "Vans Song (skank for brains)." The lyrics are really inane, but I'm posting them here so y'all can check them out. Pardon my ignorance, but who the fuck is Jeff Spicoli? Shroomy Vans Song (skank for brains) you're just like a club fag wearing Doc Martens get a pair of chukas or some checkerboard slip-ons worship Jeff Spicoli not Chris Cornell, get a pair of vans or god'll send you to hell you think doc martens are the coolest invention since someone sliced a loaf of bread in someone else's kitchen the plain truth is is that you just plain suck so why should i tell you not to waste 100 bucks? vans in my head, vans on my feet, my sole is on the ground when i'm walkin down the street don't wear no doc martens, can't wear no birkenstocks just a crummy old pair of chuka boots and a smelly old pair of socks if you wanna wear em you don't have to ride a skateboard you can even wear em with a pair of old cords someone'll probably tell you that they're not in trend just tell em that's the reason why you don't have any friends well i don't wanna hear about alternative footwear and i don't wanna hear about your new hairdo see i don't give a shit about you stupid motherfuckers cause i just wanna get a pair of olive green chukas ------------------------------ From: eliza Subject: Re: A curiousity... At 01:23 AM 12/17/96 -0500, you wrote: >OH MY GAWD! > >We can not be that old! This must be the sign. The *very* first sign! >UG! Anybody, who was anybody knew who Spicoli was! And could immitate >him! And everyone who was anyone knew what Mr. Spicoli did with the >money he won at the surfing contest in the defining movie of all >geeky/cool/jock teenagers of the early 80's. *LOL* steven...my gawd, i feel so old right now...this is the end of the world as we know it... spicoli ruled, *dude* and that certainly was the defining movie of *our* generation anyone up for a gnarly slice at perry's pizza parlor, mr. hand? :) as delirious as steve.. eliza ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I walk these streets alone, shadows hide my face My sins are etched in stone, never to erase My fears unshakeable, if I could believe I'd trade these wings of gold, for what I really need - --CC I really only had a few things They've all turned to tears One tried to kill me The other kept me here I'm still here... - --God Lives Underwater ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 2 Issue 333] ****************************************