From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Saturday, 14 Dec 1996 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 02:39:55 EST Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Saturday, 14 Dec 1996 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: Re: Melbourne show, Jan26th Re: BUTOW single available BUTOW single ? Rolling Stone Review covers... RE: All of this originality conflict SOMMS, Fresh Deadly Rarities, etc. my birthday Re: MOSH Soundgarden Video Re: Rolling Stone Review ...it can't be that bad down in the mouth of decadence Blow Up The Outside CD SHROOMY'S X-MAS PAGE Re: covers... Killer cover song MOSH Soundgarden Video Soundgarden in Argentina concert review pin-up terrorist RE: alterna-flavours B Sides RE: covers... RE: Killer cover song Boston Show Re: pin-up terrorist RE: covers... RE: Killer cover song Ready for more in Seattle Re: covers... Chris&SG the heroin look SG & Zep Re: the heroin look Soundgarden in Melbourne.....Greg Dunbar? RE: Killer cover song Hype! in Chicago-January 31! ------------------------------------------------------------ From: Greg Dunbar Subject: Re: Melbourne show, Jan26th Yep I'll be at Festival Hall that night. Does that make only two of us? Hey does anyone know the capacity of F.H by the way? ------------------------------ From: Greg Dunbar Subject: Re: BUTOW single available I've had the BUTOW single for almost a month now. I haven't noticed anyone talk about it yet (maybe I've just been ignorant) so I thought I may as well. I don't have Louder Than Live so I don't know if Gun and Get On The Snake are the same from this single as the video. At the start of Get On The Snake Chris says that this is a song from a movie that nobody saw (I must admit I never saw it). Maybe that's a clue. They play it so well, Gun sounds so cool when it is slowed down like that. As for A Splice Of Spacejam, it is quite good. It's just a jam session as a lot of people expected, but Soundgarden sure know how to jam! It's got a cool bass part in it, and the guitars just sort of go all over the place, without having a main riff. It obviously has nothing to do with the movie Spacejam (especially considering what Chris said at the Chicago concert about Michael Jordan) and is called so because it was recorded at Space Studio. The cover of the single is cool, with the worm (some sort of green grub thingy) poking through the tomato. And on the back about 4 of them poking through it and the tomato is all ruined. It looks cool. Well that's about all there is to say. Oh yeah, I've seen the BUTOW clip a few times now and it is a really great clip aint it! That brain drainer thing reminds me of a similar device on the movie 'Flash Gordon' where all of this guys memories are being sapped from him and you can see them up on a screen like on the clip. Cya people! ------------------------------ From: Warren Dyson Subject: BUTOW single ? Has the BUTOW single been released yet ??? I live in the UK, and I haven't seen it at all! I find this worrying considering it was SUPPOSED to be out on the 18th of Novemeber! Aaarrrgghh!!! Anyone out there in Soundgardenland know ? Warren. "The only kind of gardening I like is.... SOUNDGARDENING" - W.D. ------------------------------ From: BIDOLS@aol.com Subject: Rolling Stone Review Hey fellow SG freaks, I was wondering if anybody has seen the latest Rolling Stone with Pamela Lee, and Beavis & Butthead on the cover. This issue reviewed several of the albums released over the past year. SG got a less than stellar review of DOTU, saying that the band was trying too hard to be artistic or something to that effect. Screaming Trees, however, got an awesome review for their release of "Dust." I have to say that Screaming Trees is one of my most favorite bands of all times, under SG of course, (I may get hate mail for saying this) but I think I have to agree with Rolling Stone on this one. I don't normally agree with almost all reviews that Rolling Stone does. SuperUnknown, I think has been there pinacle record to date, while BMF remains to be my favorite, following behind with Superunknown, then Louder than Love, then DOTU, then UMOK. Sorry to all those folks who disagree. Even though "Dust" by Screaming Trees is a great album, I don't think it's their best either. "Uncle Anesthesia" far surpasses any other album (CC playing recorder and singing background on "Lay Your Head Down"). Nice page by shroomy, I hope you liked the pics I sent ya. You are a mad page maker. "no quote" Mark Bidoli ------------------------------ From: THE KIMMENATOR Subject: covers... okay, i just want to know one thing: what is the publications industry coming to when they actually have the foresight to put Chris Cornell on the cover of a magazine like details...i mean, really...details magazine...what's up with that? smiles... kim (who just spent an hour and a half in one of her magazine seminar classes arguing over the decision of details to put an 'icon from the pop culture fringe' on their cover instead of going with their standard grant hill, mel gibson or whoever. aargy people make me dizzy.) ------------------------------ From: Laura Subject: RE: All of this originality conflict I have just one thing to say about "rip-off" music. (Yeah, right). Soundgarden, just like every other band on earth, heard music before they ever tried to write music. All music is the product of the influence of all other music on a musician. Music is a process of evolution, and very rarely are there distinct leaps in this evolution (i.e. when classical music started using the full orchestra, jazz music, and Elvis, believe it or not). Although, ALL MUSIC has roots in the previous music that the author heard. Saying that someone has to put out COMPLETELY ORIGINAL music all the time is like saying that they had to write something without any other influence, which would mean they would have to stand on stage silent. ------------------------------ Subject: SOMMS, Fresh Deadly Rarities, etc. From: Brydon Cheyney CS95 >Dear All, > I'm not sure whether this is meant to be a new thread, a question or >what. But......Does anyone outside the U.S. own a copy of any of the >'limited edition' or bootleg CD's? If so, how on earth did you get hold of >them? Well, I have most of the singles, most of which have been limited edition... Like the JSP DIGIPAK CD, the two Rusty Cage DIGIPAK CDS limited to 5000 each... The Outshined singles were limited edition, can't remember if the DIGIPAK version was 5000 or not... I've also picked up some limited edition vinyl, like Room a Thousand Years Wide/HIV Baby... Etched Loud Love 12"... JCP picture 7"... the numbered 7"s from DOTU... oh yeah, and the clear vinyl version of DOTU which is limited to 5000.... Most of these I bought either when they came out, or at record fairs here in Glasgow.... There's usually one every three months or so and a HUGE one in the SECC about twice a year.... else I pick up some stuff at second hand record stores.... although not very often! I only have one bootleg.... It's Ugly Flowers which is an early show with Hiro, I think it's 1989, can't remember though.... it's pretty good... they don't play those songs anymore.... I see a few at record fairs... but I'm not too interested... I'd rather buy Fresh Deadly Rarites, or Stolen Prayers but I've NEVER seen them.... But what I really need is Louder Than Live and SOMMS.... I've never *EVER* seen copies of these in the UK.... sigh... Later, Brydon - 'I wanna ride upon a five mile tide of surprise and oblivion, Come rain or shine I'm waiting at the front line... ' ------------------------------ From: jax00@ix.netcom.com (Jacqueline Franco) Subject: my birthday hey you guys tomorrow, fri the 13th is my birthday!!!! 21st!!!!!!! please, everyone wish me a happy one. i am going to be really miserable tomorrow!!! but talking (actually writing) about chris & sg really cheers me up!!!!!! ------------------------------ From: akanemo@rand.nidlink.com Subject: Re: MOSH Soundgarden Video can somebody get me info on this please? (i got the original messege, but it got deleted) > Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 15:39:15 -0800 > From: Taylor Holmes > To: MOSH > Cc: SOMMS@MIT.EDU > Subject: MOSH Soundgarden Video > I just received the 'Hello we are Soundgarden' video from MOSH video. I > watched what I could during my lunch break and it was great. Thanks, > David, for your quick delivery! Later, Taylor > > ------------------------------ From: Brian_Lew@iacnet.com Subject: Re: Rolling Stone Review When I first listened to DOTU I was less than impressed also. However, after dozens of listens since then it's come to be one of my favorite albums of the year (along with Nick Cave, Melvins, Patti Smith, Sepultura, PJ Harvey, Jon Spencer, etc etc). The layers of instrumentation on DOTU are what finally made me love it, such as the banjo in Ty Cobb.. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Rolling Stone Review Author: BIDOLS@aol.com at SMTPGATE Date: 12/12/96 8:50 AM I was wondering if anybody has seen the latest Rolling Stone with Pamela Lee, and Beavis & Butthead on the cover. This issue reviewed several of the albums released over the past year. SG got a less than stellar review of DOTU, saying that the band was trying too hard to be artistic or something to that effect. Screaming Trees, however, got an awesome review for their release of "Dust." I have to say that Screaming Trees is one of my most favorite bands of all times, under SG of course, (I may get hate mail for saying this) but I think I have to agree with Rolling Stone on this one. I don't normally agree with almost all reviews that Rolling Stone does. ------------------------------ From: "Steven Russell Jr." Subject: ...it can't be that bad Hey List I've recieved quite a few requests on how/where to order the first bootleg I mentioned in my post yesterday. Um, I think it was called "Blow up the Outside" from Brixton Academy, September 96....the 2 CD one. I went directly to KTS's website (http://www.kts.it) and checked out the page. First, I didnt see the boot listed...so it's relatively new. (like released in the last week). You can order directly from KTS on that page...they have secure ordering...blah, blah, blah. OR maybe we can get a wholesale discount? Since, just for this opportunity....I've created Russell Records :-) Yeah, this is a longshot, since I don't think we can possibly get enough people together to get the discount. But, It's worth a shot. Pricing: ordering from the NON-profit Russell Records ;-) (in american dollars) $33.00 plus my cost to ship to you. Pricing: from KTS (in american dollars) $44.00 (i'm not sure about shipping..they were pretty vague) If anyone is interested in trying to get the discount...send me an email. Only IF YOU'RE SURE! If we don't get enough people interested...you're all on your own :-) Steve - - pondering the relativity of Led Zeppelin - "Sick Again" ------------------------------ From: CL Miller Subject: down in the mouth of decadence L A N C E . . . Y O U A R E T R U L Y A M A Z I N G ! I just got your From the Mouth of Decadence tapes today! Great job! I was kind of scared at first when I played them and got a background hum, but then realized that I hadn't demagnetized my four-track. The tapes are superb (and so creative) and provide me with a lot of SG stuff I never would have been able to obtain. Flutter Girl is incredible! Was that supposed to be on SuperUnknown? The Spoonman remix is very interesting! If anyone would like to hear MotorCycle Loop elsewhere, you can hear it in the opening credits of the Alive In The SuperUnkown CD-ROM! Someone mentioned two new SG Boots that are available. Anyone know where to buy/order them? Please lemme know! "And it's raining icepicks on your steel shores. . ." ~~C. Cornell Tanx. ------------------------------ From: Brian_Lew@iacnet.com Subject: Blow Up The Outside CD In the new KTS catalog there's a full page ad for the Blow Up The Outside CD. The cost is $44 + $6.50 postage - However, I've ordered from them in the past and have spent the extra $10 for UPS Express (3 Day Delivery Guaranteed) just to make sure the stuff gets to me. The track listing is: Spoonman Searching w/ My Good Eye Closed Let Me Drown Pretty Noose Burden In My Hand My Wave Ty Cobb Fell On Black Days Boot Camp An Unkind Rusty Cage Black Hole Sun Outshined Mailman Drawing Flies Blow Up The Outside World Kick Stand Slaves And Bulldozers Never The Machine Forever Jesus Christ Pose ------------------------------ From: JOHNSONJO@washjeff.edu Subject: SHROOMY'S X-MAS PAGE Hmmmm...VERY intesesting page there shroomy..... Love the photos of the band with the santa hats, but somehow I get the feeling that those X-mas wishes (Or at least chris') were a wee bit on the exaggerated side..... oh well. Keep up the good work! MERRY X-MAS EV'RYONE!! - -syd *sorry, no clever quotes at the moment* ------------------------------ From: Taylor Holmes Subject: Re: covers... THE KIMMENATOR wrote: > > okay, i just want to know one thing: > what is the publications industry coming to when they actually > have the foresight to put Chris Cornell on the cover of a magazine > like details...i mean, really...details magazine...what's up with that? If I understand your argument correctly, Kim, you are wondering why Details, a magazine that embodies young popular culture, would do a focus on Chris Cornell, an "icon from the pop culture fringe". *Fringe* being the definitive word? Well, Soundgarden and Chris Cornell are no longer on the popular culture "fringe". Like it or not, they are *completely* mainstream. Look at the way MTV and pop radio has embraced Soundgarden... and Cornell is playing right into their hands by sporting the infamously popular 'heroin look'... I'm not saying that there is anything wrong with it, but I think the reality is that Cornell is as much a *pop* icon as Mel Gibson or the like... and this is why Details chose to profile him. I hope I did'nt misunderstand your point. Later, Taylor ------------------------------ From: "Crystal Smith" Subject: Killer cover song Did any1 else hear on this 1 radio show (I forget the name of it) this cool Beatles cover song of "Come Together"....i loved that version & if nobody has a copy of this....(its off some rare album i forget the name of it)...or maybe u would like a copy of some other rare stuff i got (like i have some rare stuff from artists like Metallica & Tori Amos) just e-mail me at: metallicafreak@hotmail.com gotta go 2 my tennis class now... L8er - --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Taylor Holmes Subject: MOSH Soundgarden Video I just received the 'Hello we are Soundgarden' video from MOSH video. I watched what I could during my lunch break and it was great. Thanks, David, for your quick delivery! Later, Taylor ------------------------------ From: "Ramiro Fernando Gerszenswit" Subject: Soundgarden in Argentina Hi, my name is Ramiro and i`am from argentina, i want to know if soundgarden would came to argetina in march, It will one of my dreams. thanks and bye Ramiro (Sorry i dont konow very much english) - --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: psyche Subject: concert review I know it's a little late, but I don't think anyone has posted this concert review from the LA Times yet, so here it is... "Part jazzman and part rocker, Soundgarden's frontman Chris Cornell looks like a hell-bent Puck and sings like a loose cannon. But he doesn't go for anything dishonest. That felt like a simple blessing on Sunday as Soundgarden played at the Universal Amphitheatre to support its latest album, "Down on the Upside," a swirling mix of speed-metal and art-damaged psychedelia. Soundgarden was the first group from Seattle's grunge underground to be signed to a major label. Since 1987, the quartet has married metal with ironic, downright punkish lyrics and cool smarts with a holler that would make Axl Rose smile. Now that Metallica is following its fashion cues, Soundgarden is wandering from forceful rock into watery psychedelia. Thankfully, Sunday's economical show stayed on course, with the group's lack of theatrical pyrotechnics making other bands seem practically corny for their excesses. Rather than play up their hit "Black Hole Sun" with flashing lights and guitar windmills, everyone but Cornell left the stage for the song. The singer turned the throbbing anthem into a solo slow-groove. The most gripping tunes were fast and hard, with the assault of "Ty Cobb" and the half-ironic freedom call of "Rusty Cage" the highlights. Soundgarden's more recent, loose-limbed and Eastern-tinged sounds were not neglected, and tribute was paid to the '60s with winding versions of the Beatles' "Helter Skelter" and the Doors' "Waiting for the Sun." Slouching over his guitar in a plain white T-shirt, Cornell played his frontman role with little affectation. Any cliched gesture (balancing his guitar over his head and tossing it meekly into the drum set, for instance) would bring a sarcastic smile to his face. Even when he drop-kicked his microphone, Cornell seemed almost frail. But the band allowed itself one excess at the end--a feedback frenzy a la Nirvana, with Cornell standing on his guitar, sliding around on the strings. After second-billed Rocket From the Crypt's delicious, too-short set of silver lame and Iggy Pop via Les Brown, Soundgarden seemed even more spare and club-like. Overall, the evening proved that Soundgarden is an arena-rock troupe that plays it straight and scrappy like a garage band. This long-lasting powerhouse just needs to learn to experiment with its sound without leaning so heavily on dated rock forms." sabrina ------------------------------ From: psyche Subject: pin-up terrorist While typing up two articles for the unoff. website, I came across something that made me smile for the first time today (I'm having a *really* bad day), 'cos it kinda fits in with all this Gavin-nonsense going on at the moment..... Warning: Gavin-haters, do not read this.....I don't want this to end up as another Bush vs SG thread; we all know who's better looking... "Cornell may be second only to Bush's Gavin Rossdale in the pin-up department these days, with his wild eyes, Middle-Eastern-terrorist visage and tall thin frame that never seems to be wearing a shirt. The men don't know, but the little girls understand." It wasn't the Gavin part that made me smile; it was the way they described Chris....I thought it was pretty amusing.........Middle Eastern terrorist visage......???? Well, the article it's taken from is another review of a SG-concert...this time in Oakland. It basically focuses on Chris; it was a little too long to post, so I've sent it (along with another article) to Seth. oh....and I finally got my very own copy of SOMMS in the mail, thanks to my buddy in NY. this made me smile for the second time today :) bye sabrina ------------------------------ From: Carolyn Hanel Subject: RE: alterna-flavours >>Steve - - Heavy Rotation: No Doubt, Bush, Silverchair, STP, 311, and whoever else is the alterna-flavour of the week. So is No Doubt a big "no no" over there too? [rolling my eyes] = Puh-leeze! Am I ever going to like a band (other than Soundgarden, of = course) that is going to be accepted by the trendies of this mailing = list?? I happen to LIKE what I've heard of No Doubt!! :-P = {incidentally, they feature on the MOM compilation album also, along = with Soundgarden} Guess I'd better go crawl under a rock and hide, huh Steve??? ;-) BTW, you (speaking generally to all list members) would be surprised at = just how many members on this list actually LIKE Bush - I was simply = amazed at the number of responses I got to my "Hey Gavin-haters....." = post! :-) Carolyn the Mutated Form I'm sitting in my chair, wearing a smile......Violent Femmes ------------------------------ From: Karen Lane Subject: B Sides Lance, The tapes are Fantastic. I'm sitting at work listening to them and they are Great! Thanks a Million! Karen "The energies on this planet are changing, we're going to a higher dimension, the fourth dimension, which is why people feel edgy" Karen Cornell (Chris' Mom) ------------------------------ From: Karen Lane Subject: RE: covers... I have to disagree to some extent. How many of you could say Chris Cornell to coworkers or friends and they have no idea who you are talking about? Granted, cincinnati may be a little backward but I don't think Chris or Soundgarden are completely mainstream. They have received a lot of exposure recently with DOTU release but they will recede back into the Seattle abyss for a few years in between albums and you won't see them popping up in magazines, tabloids etc. I think they have very successfully balanced the public and private sides so as not to saturate the market. And I don't think Chris gives any impression of "the heroine look". He may be a little thinner but I think he looks pretty much the same incredible self he always has been. Thanks for discussing Karen - ---------- From: Taylor Holmes[SMTP:holmest@netdepot.com] Sent: Thursday, December 12, 1996 4:54 PM To: THE KIMMENATOR Cc: somms@MIT.EDU Subject: Re: covers... THE KIMMENATOR wrote: > > okay, i just want to know one thing: > what is the publications industry coming to when they actually > have the foresight to put Chris Cornell on the cover of a magazine > like details...i mean, really...details magazine...what's up with that? If I understand your argument correctly, Kim, you are wondering why Details, a magazine that embodies young popular culture, would do a focus on Chris Cornell, an "icon from the pop culture fringe". *Fringe* being the definitive word? Well, Soundgarden and Chris Cornell are no longer on the popular culture "fringe". Like it or not, they are *completely* mainstream. Look at the way MTV and pop radio has embraced Soundgarden... and Cornell is playing right into their hands by sporting the infamously popular 'heroin look'... I'm not saying that there is anything wrong with it, but I think the reality is that Cornell is as much a *pop* icon as Mel Gibson or the like... and this is why Details chose to profile him. I hope I did'nt misunderstand your point. Later, Taylor ------------------------------ From: Monnica Lewis Subject: RE: Killer cover song Are you saying Soundgarden has a cover of "Come Together"? That might be cool! The Beatles did that song originally. ---------- From: Crystal Smith To: somms Subject: Killer cover song Date: Thursday, December 12, 1996 9:54PM Did any1 else hear on this 1 radio show (I forget the name of it) this cool Beatles cover song of "Come Together"....i loved that version & if nobody has a copy of this....(its off some rare album i forget the name of it)...or maybe u would like a copy of some other rare stuff i got (like i have some rare stuff from artists like Metallica & Tori Amos) just e-mail me at: metallicafreak@hotmail.com gotta go 2 my tennis class now... L8er --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: RachelMaka@aol.com Subject: Boston Show Does anyone know if they are making up the Boston show? When I talked to Knights of the Soundtable they said yes they were. Has anyone heard a date? Thanks, Rachel ------------------------------ From: mshaw@lib.occ.cccd.edu (RoseeMisst) Subject: Re: pin-up terrorist sabrina posted: >While typing up two articles for the unoff. website, I came across something >that made me smile for the first time today (I'm having a *really* bad day), >'cos it kinda fits in with all this Gavin-nonsense going on at the >moment..... >Warning: Gavin-haters, do not read this.....I don't want this to end up as >another Bush vs SG thread; >we all know who's better looking... > >"Cornell may be second only to Bush's Gavin Rossdale in the pin-up >department these days, with his wild eyes, Middle-Eastern-terrorist visage >and tall thin frame that never seems to be wearing a shirt. The men don't >know, but the little girls understand." > >It wasn't the Gavin part that made me smile; it was the way they described >Chris....I thought it was pretty amusing.........Middle Eastern terrorist >visage......???? Rosee replied: I talked to a SOMMSter a couple of days ago. She said that she went to Lollapalooza this year and Chris looked kind of scary. It was like he took some kind of drug before his performance and he was just going crazy!! In various pictures he does look scary, but it makes him all the more scarier. Ironic for a guy who's supposed to by shy and soft-spoken. sabrina also posted: >Well, the article it's taken from is another review of a SG-concert...this >time in Oakland. It basically focuses on Chris; it was a little too long to >post, so I've sent it (along with another article) to Seth. > >oh....and I finally got my very own copy of SOMMS in the mail, thanks to my >buddy in NY. >this made me smile for the second time today :) Rosee replied again: speaking of receiving SG cd's, I finally have my official copy of the Launch CD with "Karaoke". Big up to SOMMSter Dani Wegelin for that one! That song is bitchin'. RoseeMisst ------------------------------ From: eliza Subject: RE: covers... On Fri, 13 Dec 1996, Karen Lane wrote: > I have to disagree to some extent. How many of you could say Chris > Cornell to coworkers or friends and they have no idea who you are > talking about? Granted, cincinnati may be a little backward but I > don't think Chris or Soundgarden are completely mainstream. I agree, Karen,(and maybe it is a Cincinnati thing), but my co-workers here had no clue who I was talking about it when I said I was going to Chicago to meet Soundgarden...(a few did, but the majority said "WHO?")...and of course I brought my pics of the band at the Chicago meeting to work and showed em around and I think only one person I know said "OOh, that is Chris Cornell"....I also had Details on my desk for quite awhile and several people asked me who that was....Hey maybe I just work with a bunch of country-listening old fogies (geez, imagine if they are lurkers on the list;-) but I think saying "maintstream" is going a bit far.....When I mentioned Pearl Jam to them, they said "Oh yeah, I know Pearl Jam....is Soundgarden like them?" *humph* and I also disagree with the "heroin look" comments...i think that is a *really* unfair thing to say....it scares me that there even IS a heroin look, but putting Chris into that category is not cool, IMO... disagreeing with alot lately, eliza ------------------------------ From: eliza Subject: RE: Killer cover song yes folks, it is on Fresh Deadly Rarities and some other boots (check out steve's discog..) On Fri, 13 Dec 1996, Monnica Lewis wrote: > > Are you saying Soundgarden has a cover of "Come Together"? That might be > cool! The Beatles did that song originally. > ---------- > From: Crystal Smith > To: somms > Subject: Killer cover song > Date: Thursday, December 12, 1996 9:54PM > > Did any1 else hear on this 1 radio show (I forget the name of it) > this cool Beatles cover song of "Come Together"....i loved that version > > & if nobody has a copy of this....(its off some rare album i forget the > name of it)...or maybe u would like a copy of some other rare stuff i got > (like i have some rare stuff from artists like Metallica & Tori > Amos) > just e-mail me at: metallicafreak@hotmail.com > > gotta go 2 my tennis class now... > > L8er > > --------------------------------------------------------- > Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > --------------------------------------------------------- > ------------------------------ From: COCHRAN_BONNIE/SBCTC@ctc.ctc.edu Subject: Ready for more in Seattle Hey All! I am back in the office (temporarily) from being in Seattle and not seeing SG, but I still ended up having a great time. I must say, even though I was disappointed, I am glad that Chris felt the need to postpone the shows due to his voice. At least he had the integrity to do so, rather than just go through the motions and put on a half-assed performance. I don't think anyone would really want to see them not be able to give it their all, especially for the hometown crowd, when they know how killer they can be live (except maybe Bill and Lance, who will not be able to stay for the rescheduled shows since they flew in from Salt Lake City). At least, I know that I'd rather he save his voice. Jen and I were with Aaron, Ryan and Vikki and all decided to go to the OK. I just *knew* that Ben would show up, kind of lost for not being able to perform. Earlier we had seen him enter the Mercer Arena and he was the only one of the band to show up. He did come into the OK with Erin, although she warned us it was not a good time to approach him. It was fairly obvious, poor guy. But we had a nice time talking to Erin and I showed her my pics from Chicago, which she thought were pretty cool. I did go to the bar and bought Ben, his girlfriend and whoever else was with them a round of drinks. We respectfully left him alone all evening. On our way out, Ben shouts over, "Hey, thanks for the drinks!" I say, "You're welcome, see ya later!" I may have said something else, who knows. Like any time or whatever. It was just cool. His mood obviously changed to happy during the course of the evening. Wednesday and Thursday Jen and I spent with Bill and Lance (who are *the* coolest, sweetest and appreciative guys) showing them some of the Seattle sights, hanging out and having a great time. We'll be doing more of the same tonight and tomorrow and maybe hooking up with more Seattle Sommsters at the Croc tonight for Satan's Pilgrims. Mazzy Star is also playing. Still anxiously awaiting two Seattle shows, Bonnie ------------------------------ From: ShRooMGrLz@aol.com Subject: Re: covers... Eliza writes: >I also disagree with the "heroin look" comments...i think that is a >*really* unfair thing to say....it scares me that there even IS a heroin >look, but putting Chris into that category is not cool, IMO... I agree that it's a scary thing that the heroin look exists... but I do think that Chris has it going on in that Details spread. Whoever did his make-up made damn sure that he looked like a CK model (who ALL have the look). He doesn't look like that in person, though. And just because some of us say that he has the heroin look in that magazine, does not mean that we think he's actually ON heroin. =) I just think it's odd that he would allow himself to be represented in that way. The whole Details thing seems to be out of character for Chris (not that any of us really has any deep insight into Chris. Well, except for Michael Apple... but he's long gone. ;-) Shroomy "Chris, Shroomy told me to tie you up and spank you until you get your voice back. Ummm... I'm not exactly sure how this is supposed to make you better, but it sure is fun!! Ahh, here's Kim with the camera now..." ~ Matt Cameron (Words not necessarily said in that order...) <~~~ my disclaimer ------------------------------ From: Moonsta693@aol.com Subject: Chris&SG Hello kiddies, how have you been? Anyway, you know how Chris seems to always be defending Led Zep. I mean, someone mentioned that he blew this guy off, 'cause he said he didn't like Led Zep? I think he's got a point there. Think about The way Chris sings, and the way he sounds. He kinda reminds me of Jimmy Page when I hear him sing. I think Jimmy might have put a lot of influence on how Chris sings. I mean, Chris has put a lot of influence on my singing. As a Soprano, I never really ever sang lower register notes, now I'm singing Seasons for my inductions into Tri-Honor Music Society. Next, A question was asked a preety long time ago, asking "if anyone has heard any music played on the radio, made after louder than love." Last night, I was listening to Seton Hall's radio station, and I heard Hunted Down, and they really don't play any SG, so it kinnda surprized me a bit. I guess the only place to hear it is on a college radio station. Knowing how many of us seems to be influenced by SG musically, I know some of you have to have your own bands. I'm interested in your demo tapes. E-mail me, and I'll give you more details! About this Heroin look, I personally hate it. Chris should not be associated with this look, and Curses on my parents for using that term about him. "Born without a friend, and bound to die alone" The original preety noose ------------------------------ From: j_crocke@unity.ncsu.edu Subject: the heroin look in my own opinion.. i often see the 'heroin look' in Matt more than i do in Chris. In most pictures, Matt's face looks really thin. Although Chris looks thin, he doesn't look it so much in the face. thought for food, jeremy ------------------------------ From: Brian_Lew@iacnet.com Subject: SG & Zep Actually, Jimmy Page played guitar... Robert Plant sang. Anyway, I think a Led Zep/Soundgarden comparison is perfect. Most people seem to only know Zeppelin from the same 3 or 4 songs the radio plays over and over and over (the same treatment Soundgarden is getting from radio too these days) although they put out a dozen albums or so. If you took the time to listen to Zeppelin's albums in their entirity you'd hear that they were an amazingly diverse band who incorporated alot of different musical styles, such as Middle Eastern rhythms and instuments, into their performances. Also, in the 70's they would perform acoustic portions during many of their often 3 hour long shows (that's 3 hours WITHOUT an opening act), predating the Unplugged fad by a couple of decades. I hated Led Zep all thru high school because everyone else loved them (and also because I only knew them from the same 3 or 4 songs the radio played), but in the years since I've realized just how incredible the band really was from a musical standpoint. They weren't just 'Stairway To Heaven'... So, I can't think of a better band to compare SG to in the "Big Picture Of Rock History" than Led Zep. While SG isn't as "innovative" as Zep was, they certainly take what Zep started and create music that is unique in its own way. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Chris&SG Author: Moonsta693@aol.com at SMTPGATE Date: 12/13/96 4:39 PM Hello kiddies, how have you been? Anyway, you know how Chris seems to always be defending Led Zep. I mean, someone mentioned that he blew this guy off, 'cause he said he didn't like Led Zep? I think he's got a point there. Think about The way Chris sings, and the way he sounds. He kinda reminds me of Jimmy Page when I hear him sing. I think Jimmy might have put a lot of influence on how Chris sings. I mean, Chris has put a lot of influence on my singing. As a Soprano, I never really ever sang lower register notes, now I'm singing Seasons for my inductions into Tri-Honor Music Society. ------------------------------ From: Brian_Lew@iacnet.com Subject: Re: the heroin look I don't know what junkies the people who use "the heroin look" term have known, but the only ones I've known have either been nodded out on a couch in the middle of the day or rifling thru someone else's stuff looking for money to steal..... ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: the heroin look Author: j_crocke@unity.ncsu.edu at SMTPGATE Date: 12/13/96 5:20 PM in my own opinion.. i often see the 'heroin look' in Matt more than i do in Chris. In most pictures, Matt's face looks really thin. Although Chris looks thin, he doesn't look it so much in the face. thought for food, jeremy ------------------------------ From: Carolyn Hanel Subject: Soundgarden in Melbourne.....Greg Dunbar? Okay, okay, OKAY!! I can't stand it any longer. :-O I'm going to HAVE = to make the long drive across to Melbourne to see Soundgarden, since = they're not nice enough to play a separate concert in SA, the only = Aussie mainland state to miss out. :-( Unfortunately I didn't keep the messages from Sommsters regarding the = Melbourne concert at Festival Hall. Who is going? Greg Dunbar - I seem = to remember your name?? And Hando - I haven't heard from you at all. = Surely you're going?????? Where ARE you, man?! What I need to know is where do I get my tickets? BASS? The same way I = got my Big Day Out tickets? PLEASE someone from Melbourne, let me know. = And how much are they? Oh, and we don't know Melbourne very well, except for the MCG and the = inner city (we go there frequently in winter to see AFL footy matches), = so can someone please give me an idea of where Festival Hall is? I'd be keen to meet some other Sommsters, if there are any. I certainly = don't think there are any who live near me! So perhaps a Melbourne = Sommsfest for me? Looking forward to hearing from any friendly Melbournite = Sommster........ Carolyn the Murky Filth I just looked in the mirror, and things aren't looking so = good......Soundgarden ------------------------------ From: "Crystal Smith" Subject: RE: Killer cover song Yea I know it's a Beatles song...I've always loved that song... & i love the name of the cd its off of...Fresh Deadly Rareties... They interviewed Chris on that radio show but i think i missed some of it =(....Chris is a big Beatles fan... - --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: gwm@starnetinc.com Subject: Hype! in Chicago-January 31! An email sent to me from the Hype! webpage creator: >The Chicago engagement will begin at the Music Box on January 31. Dave Miller ********************************************* *I like to trade bootlegs. * *Check out my Pearl Jam homepage at: * *http://pwp.starnetinc.com/gwm/pearl.htm * *You can find my bootlist there * *PEARL JAM AND SOUNDGARDEN RULE! * ********************************************* ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 2 Issue 330] ****************************************