From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Thursday, 12 Dec 1996 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 00:24:53 EST Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Thursday, 12 Dec 1996 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: PJ-Outshined Melbourne show, Jan26th Round 3 ..Ben Vs Gavin Grossdale!! Re: The Main Event: Soundgarden vs. Pumpkins today's the day I'm condemned Stuff Fight of the century and the Fourth amendment Seattle Tonight seattle tonight! The Voice RE: Seattle Tonight Re: The Voice another thing bout seconds Re: The Voice a fond farewell... RE: The Voice I am a web-page-making-fool! (Hi Matt!) The Season of Sharing... B-Side tapes brashes catalogue dear grote =) thanks, guys shroom's & friend's webpage Re: mistake this disturbing trend... SNL pretty noose screw up? Re: SNL pretty noose screw up? I'm sure Chris would like to hear this... keep it off my wave BUTOW single available Seattle shows Chris Cornell a.k.a. Lenny Kravitz? Re: favorite bands chris' voice Official Hype release on video Seattle shows, and other messages. Re: mtv hello hello if it makes you happy...... Re: Hey Gavin-haters: grow up and get over it!!!! Merry Christmas!!! Hey Gavin-haters: grow up and get over it!!!! ------------------------------------------------------------ From: Mike Groark Subject: PJ-Outshined I was just listening to a PJ bootleg from 92 and they played a version of I've Got a Feeling with Outshined tagged on the end. Just thought some of you would be interested. Mike ------------------------------ From: Stephen Frantz Subject: Melbourne show, Jan26th Anyone on the list also attending the Melbourne festival hall show? ------------------------------ From: atnadzri@vax1.tristate.edu Subject: Round 3 ..Ben Vs Gavin Grossdale!! Hi ya SOMMsters.... Hey..i like Carol's idea about the Christmas card... So..any techies outthere willing to do anything bout it? seth?:) Haaaa..yeah someone mentioned about sending Ben to the ring with gavin..i'm sure the mere sight of Ben on a bad day will make him piss in his pants!! err..once again..anyone got the Tab for Little jOe and zero Chnace??And..have SG ever palyed Zero Chance live?I mean..it's a beautiful song.... Anyone know when HYPe is coming in the Home video version(or will it ever?) i live in a small town so...the screening of HYPe is out of the question here.. have a good day everyone!!!! Andri... P/s:Shroom..why can't i access your homepage??I'm dyin to see it!!:) "Born without a friend and bound to die alone" ------------------------------ From: Lisa Rendon Subject: Re: The Main Event: Soundgarden vs. Pumpkins Hey, I went to the much awaited Pumpkins/Garbage show at the Anaheim pond. We drove an hour and a half in the pouring rain to see what I was hoping would be a good show and let me tell you if anyone out there has tickets do yourself a favor and sell them for as much as you can get. I guess I am still on my high from seeing SG a week ago. So, Garbage was actually pretty good, they opened with Queer and closed with Tear your world apart. Shirley Manson has a very good stage presence I was impressed, so on to the main event--Pumpkins. Never have I left a show feeling so empty and like I wasted my time. The band is so obviously out of synch with each other, obviously the loss of Jimmy Chamberlain has affected them more than they would like to admit. James and D'arcy were playing way too fast--making a speed metal version of Disarm and then the killer was that Billy forgot the words to Cherub Rock. I couldn't believe it. And when someone threw a t-shirt on stage to him, he stopped playing Thirty-Three and told the audience to stop throwing shit at him. I couldn't believe it. I urge all of you to boycott this show and don't purchase Mellon Collie for Christmas. As for me, I am looking forward to DOTU from Santa. By, the way, where are all of you SoCal sommsters? Lisa http://www-scf.usc.edu/~rendon the beautiful website ------------------------------ From: "Jen Kern" Subject: today's the day Finally the time has arrived!!!!! The sky is grey....looks like more rain is on the way.....there is a fresh, clean smell in the cold, damp air....It's early in the morning....I sit outside on my front steps, sipping my hot, double americano....ahhhhhh...life is good. Today is December 10th, and I, along with thousands of others....finally get to enjoy the pure pleasure of listening to Soundgarden live!!!!!! I still can't believe after months of waiting......in just 12 short hours I will be having the time of my life!!!!! JEN ------------------------------ From: Taylor Holmes Subject: I'm condemned I don't know why, but I've become a big fan of 'Nowhere But You' as of late... "And if I'm condemned Let me rest on my pillow And dream of those moments so few And if I'm blessed I'll be chasing your shadow There I go Nowhere Nowhere but you..." Just a thought for the day... Later, Taylor ------------------------------ From: ADDC Subject: Stuff Why is it that whenever I go into #somms there is no one there? There are 700 subscribers yet there are no people in #somms? #metallica, #pearljam, and even #tool are always filled up. I have an idea. How's about instead of an undernet server we pick an efnet one (like irc.ionet.net for example)? I see most music rooms on this kind of server. How's about it? Does anyone know when Hype! will be playing in Dallas? And last but not least, the BUTOW single. Ok, is there anyone out of the country who could get me the BUTOW single with the Moby remix? Of course, I would reimburse you..I simply can't find it anywhere around here (in Dallas). Anyway, if anyone could help me with this, then I would me much obliged. Thanks for reading. vincent ------------------------------ From: dumo13@erols.com Subject: Fight of the century and the Fourth amendment Hey, What's all this about SG v. Bush. I think just Ben would be enough. I'd pay BIG bucks to see that. "Hey Ben, that guy Gavin untuned your bass!" About LA ROCK... "LA rock sucks" - Sad McBain On a side note, is anyone interested in helping me with a web campaign protesting the government's infringements on our Fourth amendment rights? Anyone keeping up with Illinois school events knows what I mean. Anyone requesting info should email me. Thanks CHris ------------------------------ From: COCHRAN_BONNIE/SBCTC@ctc.ctc.edu Subject: Seattle Tonight Don't know if anyone else has posted anything about Seattle folks trying to meet up for the show tonight, but... We're pretty much just trying to all meet in line. We want to get good seats and figure that's our best bet, rather than getting beat up on the floor. I'm told Vikki will probably hit line about 2:30pm. Thugs arriving anywhere between 2-3pm. Jen and Bonnie around 3:30-4pm and Chris Mansfield between 4:30-5pm. And Andrea much later due to the last minute scheduling of an interview with Microsoft. Probably all you have to do is yell Somms or our names. Hopefully, most of you know what Vikki and Aaron look like, by their pics on the page. I'll be wearing a purple HellyHansen *waterproof* ski jacket and have long blond hair which will probably be covered up if it's still raining. ;-) Jen and I are both short and she's got short dark hair. Start at the front of the line and work your way back, that's what I plan on doing and GOOD LUCK! Maybe we'll all do something after the show... Danno, I tried mailing you twice but it came back as undeliverable. Hopefully Wednesday will be more organized, with the first run out of the way! Bonnie ------------------------------ From: "D. Murphy" Subject: seattle tonight! hey everyone! i still have not heard if there's any plans for tonight's show. my account at wood.net is not working today and that's where i receive my digest, so i would appreciate it if someone would be so kind as to let me know what's up at "levitan@u.washington.edu." what time is everyone going to the show or the box office? is there a meeting place established yet? thanks... dan _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/ danno@wood.net / levitan@u.washington.edu _/ _/ "I've been blessed with eyes to see this, _/ _/ Behind the unwhole truth you hide..." _/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ ------------------------------ From: Paul_Faraguna@dbna.com (Paul Faraguna) Subject: The Voice Happy Holidays Everybody, There has been much commentary on the condition of CC's voice during this tour. I witnessed some of his problems first hand at the NYC shows. This leads me to a question that I don't think has been asked. Shoot me if I'm wrong. It seems to me that in addition to any illness, his voice also suffers from the way he sings. He sings from his throat. Now, I remember reading somewhere that CC took professional voice lessons. Unless things have changed, the first thing a voice coach will tell you is that you must sing from the diaphragm. Otherwise, you place a tremendous amount of strain on your vocal cords. Therefore, does the way he sings mean that he disregards that advice, or that he never received it, or that to follow that advice would significantly alter the voice we have all come to love? Don't get me wrong--I think he is one of THE GREAT male rock vocalists--but his voice seems so fragile and might benefit from singing in a more stress-reducing manner. Has CC ever made any reference to his vocal training, and singing from the diaphragm vs. from the throat? Bye, THE MERRY PRANKSTER -Stop you're trying to bruise my mind I can do it on my own -If this isn't making sense It doesn't make it lies -So long,and thanks for all the fish ------------------------------ From: Monnica Lewis Subject: RE: Seattle Tonight Hey Seattle Sommsters! Hope you guys have a great time the next couple of nights. Wish I was there . I can't wait to hear your stories. Monnica ---------- From: COCHRAN_BONNIE/SBCTC To: somms Subject: Seattle Tonight Date: Tuesday, December 10, 1996 10:45AM Don't know if anyone else has posted anything about Seattle folks trying to meet up for the show tonight, but... We're pretty much just trying to all meet in line. We want to get good seats and figure that's our best bet, rather than getting beat up on the floor. I ------------------------------ From: endless_nameless@prodigy.com (GRRL NIKI FREER) Subject: Re: The Voice Paul Faraguna wrote: > Therefore, does the way he sings mean that he disregards that advice, or that he never received it, or that to >follow that advice would significantly alter the voice we have all come to love? Don't get me wrong--I think he is >one of THE GREAT male rock vocalists--but his voice seems so fragile and might benefit from singing in a more >stress-reducing manner. > > Has CC ever made any reference to his vocal training, and singing from the diaphragm vs. from the throat? > as chris has said many times over "i only know one way to sing." and that being true, he does sing straight from his throat and that is a big reason for his now common vocal problems during tours. also his constant drinking and smoking do *wonders* for that voice, let me tell you. = ) he strains himself, and he knows it, but that's the way he sings and if he had learned to sing properly, maybe we wouldn't really have SG as they are today... mind riot ____ "it's a feeling that everyone gets. you're happy with your life, everything's going well, things are exciting-- when all of a sudden you realize you're unhappy in the extreme, to the point of being really, really scared. there's no particaular event you can pin the feeling down to, it's just that you realize one day that everything in your life is FUCKED!!" hello, don't you know me, i'm the dirt beneath your feet... i'm luck's last match struck in the pouring down wind... ------------------------------ From: Luck's Last Match Subject: another thing bout seconds Another thing about the seconds article that i thought was interesting was that everyone in the inteview talked, but we still heard litle from matt. Shouldn't he be the poster boy for that Drummer magazine that's on all the newstands? or is he more of a recluse than chris? Old well. -j "Mike, give me a bottle of vodka and a straw" -Luke Spencer, General Hospital ------------------------------ From: patrickg@aonix.com (Patrick Goodwin) Subject: Re: The Voice > It seems to me that in addition to any illness, his voice also suffers > from the way he sings. He sings from his throat. Now, I remember > reading somewhere that CC took professional voice lessons. In the soundgarden book (i cant remember the name) there was something about a neighbor hearing Chris practicing his screams.I dont think it made reference to any actual vocal training.Chris's vocal style is far from a natural singing voice.As far as I can remember he's always sounded a little strained live. patrick (patrickg@aonix.com) STEALTH FAG! take your picture with an authentic san francisco homosexual,$5 .-------. | _ _ | <| O O |> | < | (,;;;;;,) \| |/ `|||/ \\|// ( >) """ ______ \-\__/ \___|pic-| \___ ace ____|tur | |____| |____| / \ /--/\--\ |_| |_| {__| |__} ****************************************************************************** ------------------------------ From: jgrotelu@herbie.unl.edu (grote) Subject: a fond farewell... hey folks... you probably forgot i was even subscribed to this list, as little as i've been able to contribute lately... to anyone who cares, i put in my unsub request to seth earlier today, so i'll be dropping out of the somms ranks. also, this e-mail address will be terminated immediately, so anyone who wants to e-mail me after this point can do so here: <00058275@bigred.unl.edu> there are a few reasons for my departure which i'm sure you don't care about, so i won't waste your time. i'd like to hear from some of you, if you ever get a chance...you know who you are. later... - -- ######################################################################## # GROTE!!!!! "I don't remember half the time # # If I'm hiding or I'm lost # # jgrotelu@herbie.unl.edu But I'm on my way....." -Chris Cornell # ######################################################################## p.s. - any sommites in the ft. lauderdale area??? i just learned i was selected for a rockin' summer of 1997 internship at the sun-sentinel, doing copy editing and design work for their daily WWW product. i'll be there by early june, so if anyone wants to hook up there, please let me know. in the meantime, i'll be rotting in the breadbasket of america... ------------------------------ From: Monnica Lewis Subject: RE: The Voice Maybe. But I still think that smoking is a major culprit. I tell ya' the day I can't hear Chris Cornell sing anymore is the day I sue some tabacco companies! ;-) Monnica ---------- From: Paul_Faraguna To: somms Subject: The Voice Date: Tuesday, December 10, 1996 2:57PM It seems to me that in addition to any illness, his voice also suffers from the way he sings. He sings from his throat. Now, I remember reading somewhere that CC took professional voice lessons. Unless things have changed, the first thing a voice coach will tell you is that you must sing from the diaphragm. Otherwise, you place a tremendous amount of strain on your vocal cords. Therefore, does the way he sings mean that he disregards that advice, or that he never received it, or that to follow that advice would significantly alter the voice we have all come to love? Don't get me wrong--I think he is one of THE GREAT male rock vocalists--but his voice seems so fragile and might benefit from singing in a more stress-reducing manner. ------------------------------ From: ShRooMGrLz@aol.com Subject: I am a web-page-making-fool! (Hi Matt!) Well kiddies... it got kind of slow in the office here today, so I decided to make yet another page (this one dedicated to Matt Cameron). Damn AOL only gives us 2MB of space though, so this page probably won't be up for long (it's cutting into my CC stuff). But enjoy it while it's there. And good news! It shouldn't take that long to load! I know my other pages take forever (sorry 'bout that). I hope that Matt doesn't hate me for making this page in his honor (kinda), and ban me from every buying another SG album for as long as I live. =) Y'know, I *would* send this letter to him too... but SOMEONE hasn't sent me his e-mail address yet. ;-) Ummm... just kidding Sethmeister. I know that Matt would probably fly to Cambridge and throttle you if you gave me his e-mail address. And then that would be the end of the list and web page, so I guess it's better if I don't have it. Life is harsh sometimes, kiddies... http://members.aol.com/ShRooMGrLz/matt.html Shroomy "Shroomy, I'm SO grateful that you've made a web page just for me!! How can I ever thank you enough? Free tickets to every SG show for the rest of your life? All-access passes? Wait, I know!! How about some naked pictures of Chris! And here's his home phone number while I'm at it!" ~ Matt Cameron (Words not necessarily said in that order...) <~~~ my disclaimer ------------------------------ From: danabt@ix.netcom.com (Dana Born-Thomsen) Subject: The Season of Sharing... Care packages from Toni! I read your post, Eliza, about the package you received from T. Thanks to our beloved S.I.S. I also received a package from your Chicago romp. It included a few backstage pictures and a specially signed DOTU card addressed "To Dana" signed by Matt, Kim and Chris. Thanks again T!!! Because of her generous offerings, I've decided to give up the autographed Superunknown poster that I auctioned for, and got, from the Save the Earth Foundation (worthy cause!!) to my nephew for Christmas. I know he'll love it , probably won't let anyone else near it....probably not even me!! Dana ------------------------------ From: Paul Synhavsky Subject: B-Side tapes Today I got the From the Mouth of Decadence tapes in the mail. I just finished listening to them, and they are great. Even though I already had half the songs, it was cool to hear ones like Flutter Girl. The tapes were put together really well. Thanks, Paul ------------------------------ From: ahorwood@gil.com.au (Alexandra Horwood) Subject: brashes catalogue Hmmm....well we just got our Brashes (Australian electronics store) Christmas catalogue in the mail...and I was interested to see that DotU was reduced (along with Metallica, Bryan Adams and Shania Twain) and suggested for "putting under the tree". It's blurb - "Soundgarden - Down on the Upside The infamous 'Seattle sounds' of Sound Garden. Featuring tracks Pretty Noose and Burden in my Hands." Wooo! "INFAMOUS SEATTLE SOUNDS"!!!! interesting...just thought I'd share :) Reminds me of the time when my grandpa thought that the strange people on my tshirt were the Beatles. (the white tshirt with the black edges and a black/white photo of the band for those of u who no it :) Cheers Alex ------------------------------ From: j_crocke@unity.ncsu.edu Subject: dear grote you rule grote-man!!! sorry to see ya go, but thats life. Take it easy bro... live long and listen to great music! jeremy ------------------------------ From: ShRooMGrLz@aol.com Subject: =) Just updated the Chris picture of the day. =) I'm glad everyone is enjoying the web stuff I've done. I wish I could talk AOL into giving me more space. If this stays as fun as I think it's gonna, I'm going to get another internet server so I can have more web space. ;-) This internet stuff is addictive. (Don't worry Seth, I'm not trying to take over your racket... like I ever could. I just want to worship SG in my own, unique, and psychotic way.) =) - - You know you're addicted to Soundgarden when you skip your lunch and an eye exam so you can work on a web page honoring them. Oh, and I remember someone had asked awhile back about "Sheet Metal." (I'd made some wavs and digitized some pictures for the Unofficial Page from it.) It's just one of those cheezy videos that some company put together to make a quick buck. It's got SG, Sonic Youth, Pantera, Soul Asylum, Black Crowes, Jane's Addiction... and some lesser known bands (such as Coffin Break). Now... do most of those bands sound like they're "metal?" I think not. Anyway, I found it at a local head shop for $10. Love me, bye-bye... Shroom ^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^ ^v^ Check out my webpage... ^v^ ^v^ or die a slow and painful death. =) ^v^ ^v^ http://members.aol.com/ShRooMGrLz/shroom.html ^v^ ^v^ Also take a peek at the CC is God page... ^v^ ^v^ ...and the CC pic of the day! ^v^ ^v^ Damn, I'm smooth. =) ^v^ ^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^ ------------------------------ From: Dan Murphy Subject: thanks, guys sommsters: although this is probably message number 200 about the cancellation of tonight's show, i feel the need to vent... i wish to send out a big f'ing thank you to our favorite vocalist, chris. too bad he does not know how to warm up. this "beat my voice into submission" technique obviously does not work, and this marks the second consecutive world tour that suffers on account of his selfishness. what more does it take to get it, mr. cornell? a different tactic is probably in order. take the hint. i must apologize in advance for my tone. first of all, i am in an altered mind state that is going to go to waste, and is probably going to result in a lot of nice hate mail for those who do not understand. secondly, i must apologize to those who missed out on the NY and MA shows for the same reason i did tonight. i did not stop to consider the possibilities of such an event if it were to happen to me, so i am sorry i was so selfish about this. now i know how you feel. i don't know what else to do except go home and listen to some Pond. At least those guys know what's going on. hell, in that case i may as well go listen to hater as well. some one-eyed guy on the security force outside the show said there's a possibility of a rescheduled show on sunday and monday. that's great, i have finals on the following days. fuck. goodnight. looking forward to reading the digest tomorrow and issuing a mass apology for whatever the fuck i have just said. dan ------------------------------ From: jax00@ix.netcom.com (Jacqueline Franco) Subject: shroom's & friend's webpage hey shroom i must thank you for your webpage - please tell me how often you plan to change it so i can keep up with you. nice pix!!! and autographs too. i got to see them after the last ny show and got hugged and autographed by ben & matt. i was too shy and scared! to go up to chris - he really looks fragile in person. anyways, i wish i had had the courage to go up to him just for a hug - it would have meant a lot to me but i at least wanted his autograph!!! thanks for the webpage - whatever you need (within reason please), i'm here for you! ------------------------------ From: eliza Subject: Re: mistake fyi listfolk....someone listens, and nicely :) >From: manager@cdnow.com (CDnow Manager) >To: epolly@one.net >Subject: Re: mistake >X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII >X-Status: > >Hello, > >Thank you for taking the time to write to us with information about our >Soundgarden listings. Our service can only be made better by fans like >yourself who can correct our mistakes!! I have made a note of your concerns and >have forwarded them to our department that handles the listings in our store. >We really appreciate your input. > >Have a great day! > >Yours truly, > >Craig Horwitz >Customer Service, CDnow ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I walk these streets alone, shadows hide my face My sins are etched in stone, never to erase My fears unshakeable, if I could believe I'd trade these wings of gold, for what I really need - --CC I really only had a few things They've all turned to tears One tried to kill me The other kept me here I'm still here... - --God Lives Underwater ------------------------------ From: endless_nameless@prodigy.com (GRRL NIKI FREER) Subject: this disturbing trend... um, guys... is it just me, or is there *really* a disturbing trend about Soundgarden's live performances lately? i mean, chris has had to cancel 3 shows so far because of sickness' and voice problems and all sorts of bad things like that... personally, i think he should... god, i don't know what i think he should do. he's should be GOOD! be careful with his voice, or he won't have it anymore. = ( it's kinda freaky to sit here and have read about the 3 cancelations because i got to go to my show and he sounded fine with a few minor bumps and toughies. it's just a little bit disturbing to me to hear this. i'd really hate to see chris's voice go...bad on us/him/everyone who loves him and the band. it's like Superunknown all over... scary scary stuff. a very concerned... mind riot ____ "it's a feeling that everyone gets. you're happy with your life, everything's going well, things are exciting-- when all of a sudden you realize you're unhappy in the extreme, to the point of being really, really scared. there's no particaular event you can pin the feeling down to, it's just that you realize one day that everything in your life is FUCKED!!" hello, don't you know me, i'm the dirt beneath your feet... i'm luck's last match struck in the pouring down wind... ------------------------------ From: Josh_Garza@teachnet.edb.utexas.edu (Josh Garza) Subject: SNL pretty noose screw up? This caught me wondering WHAT mistake during SNL??? i got to agree they are definately 'so cool' where i didn't even notice, but i have watched that performance on tape millions of times, and not noticed anything... anyone know what is being talked about and its valid. not too important, but im kinda curiousss - -pcc ________________________________________ vikki@u.washington.edu writes: They may never write anything as culturally influential as "Achy Breaky Heart," or let Neil Young sleep on their couch, but Soundgarden are still the coolest thing going. Exactly how cool, you ask? So cool that Johnny Cash, the Man in T Black _himself_, recently covered "Rusty Cage." So cool that when they played "Saturday Night Live," they screwed up "Pretty Noose" -- and acted like it was part of the song. - -- - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- TeachNet, College of Education, University of Texas, Austin Texas - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ Subject: Re: SNL pretty noose screw up? From: seth > This caught me wondering WHAT mistake during SNL??? i got to agree they are > definately 'so cool' where i didn't even notice, but i have watched that > performance on tape millions of times, and not noticed anything... anyone kno > w > what is being talked about and its valid. > not too important, but im kinda curiousss I would imagine they were referring to the fact that "Pretty Noose" on SNL was one of the *worst* SG performances to date. Just thinking about it makes me uneasy... seth ------------------------------ From: vman@ctdnet.acns.nwu.edu (Vasant Ramamurthy) Subject: I'm sure Chris would like to hear this... Here's a funny story. I was listening to Loveline on the radio (in case you don't know what it is, it's a call-in show that helps people w/sexual or love problems), and this girl calls in and says she can't bring herself to orgasm while having sex w/her boyfriend. The host asks her if she has orgasms when she masturbates, and she says, "Yeah, but only when I'm watching Chris Cornell." :-) Vasant ------------------------------ Subject: keep it off my wave From: Ben Timberlake You know what bugs me? I'll tell you anyway. How the guitar solo in 'My Wave' is completely drowned out by the rhythm guitar part. It's one of the few points of poor production on superunknown. That solo is just so beautiful and I always have to strain to hear it. It was a great treat to be able to hear kim play it so clearly at the chicago shows. -- Ben Ben Timberlake Thank you for Northwestern University visiting Asteroid B612 Medill School of Journalism btimlake@nwu.edu -30- http://pubweb.acns.nwu.edu/~bft718 "But, I would rather light a candle than curse your darkness." -- John Goodman, "Raising Arizona" ------------------------------ From: psyche Subject: BUTOW single available I just got an e-mail from the Esprit Mail-order service, telling me they have the Australian BUTOW single (w/ 2 live tracks and "Splice of Space Jam"), so those who want it had better e-mail them soon, 'cos they seldom have more than one copy of a single. Right now, it's the only version that has been released at all, and it's only been released in Australia. I know that one part of the UK version is the same, but it isn't available there yet. As for the single with the Moby remix, it hasn't been released yet either, since it's part of the UK set. I think it will be released sometime next week. Damn....nearly forgot to post the URL for Esprit: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/esprit/ They want around 12$ for it, which is a little expensive, but I haven't seen the single anywhere else on the net.....or in any store either for that matter. I bought mine in HMV, but apparantly I bought the only one they had. In fact, when I asked them if they had more, they denied ever having had that single in their store...........ahhh..strange people.... sabrina ------------------------------ From: Andrew Dunn Subject: Seattle shows I haven't gotten my digest for the day yet, and I'm supposed to go to = the show tonight (the 11th) but I heard limited details that the shows = may have been cancelled? Can someone, anyone in the know get back to me = as soon as possible with a few more details? thanks. nd. ------------------------------ From: Rebekah Henderson Subject: Chris Cornell a.k.a. Lenny Kravitz? On All Night Thing from Temple of the Dog, at some points in the song, I swear that Chris Cornell sounds exactly like Lenny Kravitz. Has anybody else heard this? It's so weird. May Soundgarden be with you. Rebekah ------------------------------ From: oponfam@cnsnet.com Subject: Re: favorite bands Carolyn wrote: > So why be on this list? I just happened to be surfing the 'net way back = > in August last year, and did a search for Soundgarden. Why not Violent = > Femmes? Hmmmmmm, I don't know. Fate, maybe? And I joined this list, = > grew to love it, grew to know some of the members intimately and make = > some friends for life, grew to love Soundgarden, grew to feel like I = > know the band members. NO WAY could I unsubscribe! And no way will I = > subscribe to a VF list because I simply don't have the time to be on two = > lists!! :-) =20 > > So, Kathie, that's why I'm here. You're all stuck with me, even if I = > don't say SG is my favourite! Like it or lump it, folks............... > Carolyn your post says pretty much what I've been hearing from other people who don't necessarily like Soundgarden the best, but LOVE the list! So, it turns out its US, its this list, that keeps people coming back for more. Still it does seem (to my relief) that most of us do prefer Soundgarden, and even those who don't have a definite passion for them. It seems we've really somehow developed something very special here, above and beyond our feelings for the band. I find that fascinating. Thanks for all your responses to my question. Kathie ------------------------------ From: jax00@ix.netcom.com (Jacqueline Franco) Subject: chris' voice hey guys apparently for the ny show that was canceled it was because chris had a bad cold and it was affecting his voice. for the last ny show, saturday nite, he was able to sing but kind of bad even though it sounded great to me but there were some songs that the audience had to sing for him. he has had voice problems before and i think it's coming back. maybe he needs a vacation - here in sunny florida? i have guest bedrooms, pool table, jet-ski, etc. - from his singing. he needs to give his voice a rest from all this touring. ------------------------------ From: gwm@starnetinc.com Subject: Official Hype release on video Hype! will be in stores in late spring of '97 released by Republic Videos. Sorry for crossposting, but I thought of you would like to know. PS-this is VERY official because the keeper of the Hype! webpage told me himself, so it's not a rumor. ... Dave Miller ********************************************* *I like to trade bootlegs. * *Check out my Pearl Jam homepage at: * *http://pwp.starnetinc.com/gwm/pearl.htm * *You can find my bootlist there * *PEARL JAM AND SOUNDGARDEN RULE! * ********************************************* ------------------------------ From: ThNrthFace@aol.com Subject: Seattle shows, and other messages. Hi everyone. Sorry about this first part, but I can't help myself. Some of you may understand. ((*Personal message to Danno* Shut up, YOUR selfishness is pissing me off. And altered states of mind are no excuse. If that's how you are going to be, take a Valium or something. I didn't see you standing in line hours before anyone else in the pouring rain. And the last time I checked, bands didn't schedule tours around your finals.)) Okay, that feels better. Now on to business. Yes, the shows on the 10th and 11th were cancelled. They have been rescheduled for the 17th and 18th. A few of us decided to go to the OK for a few drinks and to warm up after we were told that the show was cancelled. Then, after a few minutes, Erin from Silver came in. She says thank you to the people in the Chicago group who sent the cards and flowers, and that she will be responding soon to emails. She has been really busy with all the tour work that has to be done, and her computer has been in the shop for a while now. She also said the reason behind the cancellation (straight from the man himself) is that Chris didn't want to perform with a half-assed voice. He didn't think it was fair to everyone who spent their hard earned money to go out and not be able to give the best show possible. Now I would hardly call that a personall attack on anyone, or selfish either. Another note, for those of you interested. Rocket From The Crypt will be playing tonight (11th) at the Crocodile Cafe. Aaron will be there for damn sure. Now I have to study for a dreaded Math final that starts in 7 hours. KTMS Founder, List Thug, Somms Sheriff, and crazy guy, Aaron ------------------------------ From: BdMtrFngr Subject: Re: mtv Radio stations are just as bad. How many times have i heard the "popular singles" on the "alternative" or hard rock stations. I say people should support their cd players On Mon, 9 Dec 1996, Billy wrote: > No matter what MTV put on I doubt I would ever watch it. The are so > corporate and slick, it makes me sick. People should support their radio > stations and don't watch MTV. It takes away from the bands and Its so > disgustingly trendy. Music isn't about how much money you can make off > it, its about the artists and the songs. And that Kennedy, I'm gonna rip > her head off... > ------------------------------ From: Monnica Lewis Subject: hello hello Hey, Why are we all so quiet? Anyway, I just read today that the Seattle show was cancelled last night. What happened? Is Chris sick again or is it his voice? What about tonight's show? I hope, for the Seattle Sommsters sake, that they reschedule. ------------------------------ From: "Steven Russell Jr." Subject: if it makes you happy...... Hey List! First a big shout out to Adriana and J. Rhodes! Thanks! da News: 2 new SG boots have surfaced...yeah, it's about time. One (the most expensive one) is released on KTS, so you know the quality is killer. The second one...um...I dunno...havent heard it yet. Here's the general info complete with errors :-) Blow Up The Outside (KTS, December 1996) and Time: 127:37 Where?: Brixton Academy 19 September, 1996 Disc 1: Disc 2: 1)Black Hole Sun 1)Spoonman 2)Outshined 2)Searching With My Good... 3)Mailman 3)Let Me Drown 4)Drawing Flies 4)Pretty Noose 5)Blow Up The Outside World 5)Burden In My Hand 6)Kickstand 6)My Wave 7)Slaves and Bulldozers 7)Ty Cobb 8)Never The Machine Forever 8)Fell On Black Days 9)Jesus Christ Pose 9)Boot Camp 10)An Unkind 11)Rusty Cage The second one: Waiting on the Upside (Snow #22, December 1996) Time: 73 min Where? Irvine, CA 8/3/96 Type: audience (DAT) 1-spoonman 2-searching with my good eye closed 3-drown (let me drown) 4-waiting for the sun (the doors) 5-pretty noose 6-my wave 7-ty cobb 8-fell on black days 9-rusty cage 10-black hole sun (chris solo) 11-outshined 12-mailman 13-jesus christ pose 14-interview/down on the upside If satan claus is nice enough to drop either of these items under a *tree*, we'll redo the same thing as the Syracuse show. BtW: still looking for that TO show :-) Steve - - Heavy Rotation: No Doubt, Bush, Silverchair, STP, 311, and whoever else is the alterna-flavour of the week. "I'll run in the rain till I'm breathless When I'm breathless I'll run till I drop The thoughts of a fool's kind of careless I'm just a fool waiting on the wrong block" ------------------------------ From: eliza Subject: Re: Hey Gavin-haters: grow up and get over it!!!! At 07:48 AM 12/12/96 +-10-30, Carolyn Hanel wrote: >they think Bush is a "ripoff" band. Just like you say Green Day, or Stone Temple Pilots, or silverchair, or [insert appropriate band here] are ripoffs because they sound like other bands. So are you saying that there is only allowed to be one band in the world for each "category" of music?? That no one else should be allowed to write/sing/play anything similar for fear of being labelled ripoffs? Get real. >Soundgarden sounds similar to Led Zeppelin, for pete's sake!!!!! But the bands they sound similar to did NOT write the songs that Bush, silverchair, Soundgarden, and [insert appropriate band here] wrote. AMEN, Car...i am *so tired* of this whole issue and *so tired* of the Bush hatred syndrome...Fine, so you dont like their music for whatever reason, DONT LISTEN TO IT...the forceful vengeful hatred that i hear about towards them is more pathetic than the music could ever be....So people think they are ripping-off...like *every* band in the world hasn't imitated or copied someone else's style at some point???? as carolyn said, get real. I have heard *several* people on this list mention other bands that they like...and they each sound a lot like other bands of the past to me...Anyone could make an argument that Soundgarden has "ripped off" the Beatles, Zepplin, Black Sabbath, etc. at times...AND? I don't think it is "ripping off" - i think it is strong influences of other music. Last I checked, there were no patents out there for a certain sound or type of music. It is called freedom of expression....Again, don't like it, don't listen! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I walk these streets alone, shadows hide my face My sins are etched in stone, never to erase My fears unshakeable, if I could believe I'd trade these wings of gold, for what I really need - --CC I really only had a few things They've all turned to tears One tried to kill me The other kept me here I'm still here... - --God Lives Underwater ------------------------------ From: ShRooMGrLz@aol.com Subject: Merry Christmas!!! Well kiddies, I told you that this webpage stuff is addictive. Guess what? I've put up a Soundgarden Christmas page. ;-) Hope you guys get a kick out of it. http://members.aol.com/ShRooMGrLz/xmas.html And it's (of course) linked to the SiCA and Chris-is-God pages. By the way, some of you have asked what time I change the CC picture of the day. I do it every evening around midnight (central time). And I updated the SiCA page last night, too. There's a new picture of Chris and Kim up there, and a picture of yours truly (I'm so modest). As always... I'd love to hear comments on the Christmas page. =) Shroomy "Chris, I've decided to go to Europe for the holidays. But I've hired a new live-in maid to look after you while I'm gone. Meet Miss Shroom..." ~ Susan Silver (Ha! I wish!) (Words not necessarily said in that order...) <~~~ my disclaimer Last updated: late last night when I should have been asleep. ^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^ ^v^ Check out my webpage... ^v^ ^v^ or die a slow and painful death. =) ^v^ ^v^ http://members.aol.com/ShRooMGrLz/shroom.html ^v^ ^v^ Also take a peek at the CC is God page... ^v^ ^v^ ...and the CC pic of the day! ^v^ ^v^ Damn, I'm smooth. =) ^v^ ^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^ ------------------------------ From: Carolyn Hanel Subject: Hey Gavin-haters: grow up and get over it!!!! Hi guys, I've read with amusement the posts about Bush's Gavin Rossdale. = Amusement because it is all so pathetic! :-) Okay, so the guy came out = and said he doesn't like Soundgarden. Is that really such a crime? = Some of YOU have come out and said you don't like Bush - why do you feel = like you can say what you like but he can't????? =20 ["oooooh, he said he hated my band, so I'm going to go out and say I = hate his!"] Everyone likes different bands!! Get over it! Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think those of you who have said they = hate Bush say so because they think Bush is a "ripoff" band. Just like = you say Green Day, or Stone Temple Pilots, or silverchair, or [insert = appropriate band here] are ripoffs because they sound like other bands. = So are you saying that there is only allowed to be one band in the world = for each "category" of music?? That no one else should be allowed to = write/sing/play anything similar for fear of being labelled ripoffs? = Get real. Ever heard of the saying "imitation is the greatest form of flattery"?? = Now I, for one, happen to like a few Bush songs ("Glycerine" is simply = beautiful to me - so shoot me), and I LIKE silverchair. Okay, so they = might sound similar to other bands. Soundgarden sounds similar to Led = Zeppelin, for pete's sake!!!!! But the bands they sound similar to did = NOT write the songs that Bush, silverchair, Soundgarden, and [insert = appropriate band here] wrote. If Bush hadn't emerged, I never would = have known the song "Glycerine", for example. No one else wrote that = song - Bush did. Okay, so I've said my piece. Flame away all you like - but remember, = I'm only doing what I have every right to do.........express my opinion. Carolyn the Mad Flamethrower I'm gonna break my rusty cage.........and run. - Soundgarden ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 2 Issue 329] ****************************************