From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Friday, 6 Dec 1996 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Fri, 06 Dec 1996 02:39:22 EST Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Friday, 6 Dec 1996 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: Black Hole Sun Like I don't want to hear it another pointless question SD & LA shows and Susan Silver meeting second LA show no moshing? seattle sommsters... hey...seattle sommsters... Re: another pointless question My (under construction) Homepage. Chris vs. Billy and other stuff my "favorite band" stand RE: Chris vs. Billy and other stuff Re: second LA show no moshing? Re: Favorite Bands Soundgarden good. Pumpkins bad.????? I`m Spanish. Please Help. Re: Favourite Bands Re: BdMtrFngr Sacramento Show BdMtrFngr Re: ?question? Re: Favorite Bands HOOTCHIE, SCHMOOTCHIE Sound clips Tool/MAtt/Screaming Life book Re: HOOTCHIE, SCHMOOTCHIE Re: BdMtrFngr Re: ?question? SOMMA CD For Sale imagery is power.... Re: Chris vs. Billy and other stuff seattle sommsfest Re: Favorite Bands Report on Dec. 4th show... STONED!!!!!! it's turnin back around.... the tool drummer.... Re: Motor Vision Video ------------------------------------------------------------ From: "Audrey L. Hillyard" Subject: Black Hole Sun Like I don't want to hear it Check out today's ATN music news of the world (www.addict.com) for this little gem on something called Lounge-A-Palooza: "Black Hole Sun" Like You've Never Heard it Before "...The most frightening names on the list of luminaries are perennial Sinatra punching bags Steve Lawrence and Eydie Gorme, who were somehow coaxed into performing a cover of Soundgarden's "Black Hole Sun," backed by a 30-piece orchestra..." I'm covering my ears now! audrey ------------------------------ From: tealyf@ix.netcom.com (*.*) Subject: another pointless question From the Get a Life Department ... I'm sure there are some of you out there who attended the 1995 Reading Festival or own the bootleg, so this is a question for you. Remember the end of the show, with all that feedback, like even more than they usually produce? Well, in the middle of it, Chris shouts out something, and repeats it twice. He's saying something sucks, but what? "The something something sucks!" he shouts. To me it sounds like "The anthem on TV sucks," but what the hell does that mean? Somebody must know what he's saying. I've listened to this bootleg roughly three billion times (this was one hell of a phenomenal show, and an excellent bootleg as far as sound quality goes) but those utterances still leave me with a vacant look in my eyes. Anyone with info please share it. I NEED to know what Chris thinks sucks so I can blindly agree with him and get on with my life. Thank you. Tealy, Son of Richard "Huh huh, uhhh ... like, you know when stuff sucks? Hhhuh huh, hhhuh huh ... well, that really sucks." -- Plato ------------------------------ From: Terri Parks Subject: SD & LA shows and Susan Silver meeting Hey all just wanted to say what a extremely great time I had at the the San Diego and LA show. San Diego was probably the best just for the fact that we were right in front of the stage (in front of Ben) and LA was seats. As for Ben's behavior, nothing out of the ordinary, no tantrums or anything. Chris' voice to me was superb, I would never though he had just been sick. At one point he went to the side of the stage, started coughing and then lit a ciggerate. (smart) As for his appearance.. HOT DAMN. He was so fucking beautiful, especially at the LA show w/his tight white t-shirt. OOH BABY...YUM YUM. Oh shit, sorry I'm getting carried away. Also I would like to say how it was a pleasure to meet you CA sommsters. We should definately keep in touch. By the way, (should that be BTW?-CL?) the picture the waiter took of all of us turned out very nice. If any of you want a copy of it, e-mail me and I will get copies made. I also took some photos at both shows, of course as to be expected with a disposable camera, they didnt turn out that great. You can see the guys but its kinda dark. Owell, I guess I will have to rely on memories. In other Soundgarden related stories, I thought I would finally post the meeting I & SNDGRDNGRL(Christy) had with Susan Silver when we were in Seattle the day before Halloween. While we were in Seattle we decided we wanted to go check out Susan Silver Management. Our husbands could care a less about it so they dropped us off and told us they would pick us up in a hour. Our intention was just to go up to the office and just check out the gold albums, the office etc. Of course, we had no idea it would be our lucky day. Once we decided to go in the building, we stood on the second level of the stairs and decided on what we were going to say and how we should approach this. After about fifteen minutes of discussing this, we hear the door open from downstairs and knew someone was coming in. Immediately we heard several dogs barking.(the sound of pomeranians to be exact)and knew it was her. We panicked and started walking down the stairs and there she was. She was taking the leashes off the dogs and Christy said "Susan". She looked up and said "Hi". We introduced ourselves and told her where we were from and that we were actually going up to her office and hoping she would be there. She said "perfect timing" and proceeded to invite us up to the office. The whole time I'm shaking and cant even say anything and Christy is of course calm and collected. We get up to her office (the lobby area) and she introduces us to two girls in the office. I think one girl was named Haley but I cant remember the other girls name. She lets us look around and play with the dogs. Christy tells her about the mail she has sent her and she remembered who she was which was kinda nice. We asked if we could take a picture with her but unfortunately she declined and said "I'm self-conscience, I let the guys do that". Well then we decide we should probably go and we say our good-byes and thank her for letting us come up there and on our way out the door her receptionist whispers to her, "Chris is on the phone". I about died. Anyway we left and that's our story of the Susan Silver meeting. Terri ------------------------------ From: surfpunk@walrus.com Subject: second LA show no moshing? I was just wondering since I haven't read any reviews mentioning this if anybody who was there at the second SG LA show can give an idea of=20 what it was like at the no moshing show I would love to know. Later Surfpunk ------------------------------ From: "Eshuis, Angela BHS" Subject: seattle sommsters... hey guys...only one week to go, and I'll be there w/you all. I mean, i live near seattle, but, i'll be w/you guys at the concert....nevermind...this isn't making sense....i'm just excited! -angie ------------------------------ From: "Eshuis, Angela BHS" Subject: hey...seattle sommsters... hello everyone. i was just wondering if any of the Seattle Sommsters are planning a meeting of some kind before the show on the eleventh.....i haven't been keeping up w/all of the mail lately, so sorry if i've been missing important things!!! thanx, angie ------------------------------ From: "Steven Russell Jr." Subject: Re: another pointless question At 12:22 AM 12/05/96 -0800, you wrote: >>From the Get a Life Department ... and the "who really has one, not me" secondary school >I'm sure there are some of you out there who attended the 1995 Reading >Festival or own the bootleg, so this is a question for you. Remember >the end of the show, with all that feedback, like even more than they >usually produce? Well, in the middle of it, Chris shouts out something, >and repeats it twice. He's saying something sucks, but what? "Your football team sucks" >" but what the hell does that mean? It's a reference about the English soccer teams and I think CC playfully mocking their rabid fans. Steve - - "open up your purses for the boys that reimburse us...for a goal line stand on 4th and 2" ------------------------------ From: CMSDLADL@livjm.ac.uk Subject: My (under construction) Homepage. Dear All, I'm creating my first homepage, and am looking for information on anything and everything you care to care about. If you have any info on anything (especially addresses of good homepages on :- Nirvana, Pearl Jam, The Benfolds Five, Swervedriver, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Ash, Foo Fighters, and others) please mail me and shout about it. There will of course be stuff on Soundgarden but we all have a huge resource in the Unofficial Homepage, so don't worry about that. Love Dan ------------------------------ From: jamie care Subject: Chris vs. Billy and other stuff today i just walked out of my historical canadian geography exam. i'm done with university.......i'm switching over to community college. anyways, what's with comparing chris to billy corgan? they are two completely different types of singers and people. i dig chris' voice and his lyrics, his songwriting, the way he shows respect to his fellow band members, and i respect his guitar abilities. i dig billy's lyrics, his songwriting abilities, and i think he's the best singer/guitarist around right now. in no way do i try to draw any sort of parallel between these two, though. they have different backgrounds, different views, etc....... they have different outlooks, basically. i mean, how can you slag on someone who wrote a song like "Cherub Rock"?????????? - ---- tomorrow's just an excuse........ +jamie c.+ **************************** "On a good day....my mind is like the country....green wide open spaces... a breath of zen....that's nice on the eyes.... lonely.....without a friend" -I Mother Earth ("Raspberry") **************************** ------------------------------ From: jamie care Subject: my "favorite band" stand this is my last stand on why sg isn't my absolute favorite band......... The Tea Party is a canadian band I have loved for years. they are a completely different style than sg, so why should I compare them???? soundgarden is rad. they are better than rad. i could listen to them forever, but i don't CALL them my "favorite" band. I leave that so-called honour (it really doesn't matter at all, really) to The Tea Party. hey, i'm just a damn fool canadian, eh? i can't help but show my love for our great canadian music.............. - --- tomorrow's just an excuse...... +jamie c.+ ***************** (no quote) ***************** ------------------------------ From: Karen Lane Subject: RE: Chris vs. Billy and other stuff I can honestly say I find Billy Corgan to be the most irritating singer in modern music. However, I agree that comparing the 2 is sort of irrelevant. The point was, I believe, Chris is incomparable as a vocalist and lyricist and I have to agree. "If I should be short on words and long on things to say could you crawl into my world and take me worlds away?" CC - ---------- From: jamie care[SMTP:jcare@callisto.uwinnipeg.ca] Sent: Thursday, December 05, 1996 10:23 AM To: somms@MIT.EDU Subject: Chris vs. Billy and other stuff today i just walked out of my historical canadian geography exam. i'm done with university.......i'm switching over to community college. anyways, what's with comparing chris to billy corgan? they are two completely different types of singers and people. i dig chris' voice and his lyrics, his songwriting, the way he shows respect to his fellow band members, and i respect his guitar abilities. i dig billy's lyrics, his songwriting abilities, and i think he's the best singer/guitarist around right now. in no way do i try to draw any sort of parallel between these two, though. they have different backgrounds, different views, etc....... they have different outlooks, basically. i mean, how can you slag on someone who wrote a song like "Cherub Rock"?????????? - ---- tomorrow's just an excuse........ +jamie c.+ **************************** "On a good day....my mind is like the country....green wide open spaces... a breath of zen....that's nice on the eyes.... lonely.....without a friend" -I Mother Earth ("Raspberry") **************************** ------------------------------ From: Lynne Low Subject: Re: second LA show no moshing? >Date: Thu, 05 Dec 1996 10:24:36 >To: surfpunk@walrus.com >From: Lynne Lowe >Subject: Re: second LA show no moshing? > >At 09:25 AM 12/5/96 GMT, you wrote: >> >> >>I was just wondering since I haven't read any reviews mentioning this >>if anybody who was there at the second SG LA show can give an idea of >>what it was like at the no moshing show I would love to know. Later >> >>Surfpunk >> >>The pit seemed to be made up mostly of small children, preteens, and teenagers who probably just knew a couple of hit songs.. Since it was in LA there are the folks who get free tickets because of connections in the industry. "I was at a Soundgarden concert" for status instead of the music. And it's true that some little girl caught one of Matt's drumsticks! What a waste! It would be nice if the true fans were able to be down in the pit. I actually wanted to see some moshing after hearing about the other shows. I was very close to the stage and had a good view of the pit. Sometimes I wish there was some kind of oral test at the door that would determine where you get to sit/stand at a show. The posers and wantabees in the back and the real fans in the front. I know if I was a musician performing I'd want to feel some pure connection with the crowd - especially those right in my face so to speak. I was lucky enough to be surrounded by people who were totally grooving to the show. > >Lynne > ------------------------------ From: Lynne Low Subject: Re: Favorite Bands >Date: Thu, 05 Dec 1996 11:02:34 >To: oponfam@cnsnet.com >From: Lynne Lowe >Subject: Re: Favorite Bands > >At 09:27 PM 12/4/96 -0600, you wrote: >> >> >>When I found this list I was so thrilled to finally find other people as >>devoted to Soundgarden... >>So, clue me in those of you who don't prefer Soundgarden. What is it you get from the list and what makes you continue to wade through the mounds of posts. I'm not being critical, >really want to know. Any input would be appreciated. >> >>Kathie >> >>Hi Kathie, > >I love SG but it I were to limited myself and not explore other music I'd die. I don't like saying one group is better than another. We all have different tastes. Be glad that everyone doesn't sound the same. That's what makes SG so wonderful. They are unique. Their music is special to me. That doesn't mean that I can't enjoy the Smashing Pumpkins, Coolio, R.E.M. or Mozart too. > >I read the posts because they are interesting and fun. I've gotten to meet people who love the band like me. I don't idolize anyone. I admire the guys. What I get from Chris' lyrics is knowing that someone else understands the way I feel sometimes. Music is my drug. > >Lynne >> > ------------------------------ Subject: Soundgarden good. Pumpkins bad.????? From: Brydon Cheyney CS95 I have to agree in part, I mean Chris's voice is fucking *AMAZING*, just listen to the intro to 'Loud Love', or 'Mind Riot'... Billy Corgan doesn't touch Chris, doesn't come near - Hell, a lot of people just plain don't like his whiney tone... ;) I don't mind - I think the songs he writes more than make up for it, the guy's a song-writing genius, as is Chris. But when it comes to guitar playing Corgan beats Chris hands down... technically... Chris writes fucking great guitar riffs, but Corgan is pretty much the consumate guitar player... the guy can wail on a lead like no-one else, yet still drop into dream like simplicity and beauty avoiding the shitty guitar-wank of Malmsteen et al... I'm not saying anything against Chris (God forbid.. ;) ) his guitar playing skills are great, but it's more of a 'do the job' style, more a tool to help convey the song than anything else... but he's a master craftsman when it comes to the job!!!!! Later, Brydon - - and as for Corgan looking bizzare, well you need bizzare looking people to make the rest of us look normal... and Chris look even better in all you gal's eyes... ;) ------------------------------ From: Montanes Lopez Subject: I`m Spanish. Please Help. Hello!! I would like to speak in Spanish about Soundgarden with someone of you. I don`t speak English very well and I don`t Know what to do, if someone of you Know Spanish, please write something to me. Thanks for all. Sorry for my bad (fuckin`) English. :-) RAFA-------- ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Favourite Bands From: Brydon Cheyney CS95 >I was surprised to see people say Soundgarden >wasn't their favorite, sometimes not even in the top three. It seems >like a lot of work to read the list and keep up with it for a band who >isn't your favorite (commendable, but for me it wouldn't be worth it). > > So, clue me in those of you who don't >prefer Soundgarden. What is it you get from the list and what makes you >continue to wade through the mounds of posts. I'm not being critical, I >really want to know. I wonder what the percentages would be of SG as >favorite vs. SG not as favorite. Any input would be appreciated. > >Kathie > Despite the fact I may like other bands music better, or an a par with SG's - bands like Monster Magnet, (the dearly departed) Kyuss, Tumblweed, the Wildhearts... I think this list simply beats any other hands down... SG are still of my all time favourite groups, their music still inspires me the whole time... I'd consider myself a die-hard SG fan, but it doesn't stop me from committing my passion to any other band! I mean, I love stuff from Del Amitri to Sepultura... I just hate it when people are stuck in the rut of following one band and one band only... I like the fact that the list members acknowledge their love of other bands and don't just flame anyone who isn't SG... Basically this is a healthy, interesting list that keeps everyone updated on the latest SG news, has an honest feeling of cameraderie, and has introduced me to a lot of very cool people who have a lot of cool opinions and views on the band I love... Hope this helps somewhat Kathie!! Later, Brydon ------------------------------ From: Lynne Low Subject: Re: BdMtrFngr >Date: Thu, 05 Dec 1996 13:14:54 >To: clmiller@usachoice.net >From: Lynne Lowe >Subject: Re: BdMtrFngr > >At 02:44 PM 12/5/96 -0500, you wrote: >> >> >>i assume that's not an apology. >> >>that's ok. . . >> >>i don't really expect apologies from people like you anyway. >> >>sorry i asked too much. >> >>Hi Chris, > >I was shocked by the statement myself. Just let it go. People like that aren't worth get stressed over. Close minded people are a waste of time. You have to remember that some people are lost in their stupid little worlds where everyone and everything has to be the same. Too bad. They miss out on a lot, don't you think? Anyway, I just wanted to share my thoughts with you. > >Take care. > >Lynne > ------------------------------ From: Tiffany S StClaireMefret Subject: Sacramento Show I waited in line in the rain because the power tripping security didn't want us to stand under the awning. I was front & center for the show, so I didn't get to hear every song. There were a few songs that I was fighting so hard to breathe that I couldn't do anything except push against the barricade and gasp for air. I don't think I remember the order either... sorry. So here are some of the songs I heard: Spoonman Rusty Cage (Very fast... Kim, Chris and Ben were laughing) Burden In My Hand, Hands All Over, Outshined, Blow Up the Outside World, Black Hole Sun (Chris), Fell On Black Days, Down On the Upside, Jesus Christ Pose (yeah!), and a version of Motocycle Loop. I know there were more songs, I just can't remember them. I spotted the fork necklace on Chris, by the way. He was wearing a long sleeved button up shirt, which stayed on the whole show. Ben was trying to carry out his "angry" act, pretending to punch the speaker cabinet and then spitting in the air. I reminded me of big time wrestling- he looked more bored than angry. I forget which song it was, but he wasn't even playing for most of the song. Matt is an amazing drummer. Chris Cornell blocked my view of Matt most of the night. He threw his sticks to the crowd before the encore. Chris' rant was about MTV. I didn't catch the whole thing, but my husband reports that it was something like: This is a video that MTV refused to play. They don't have time to play videos now; all they have time for is game shows and ...? shows and no time for videos. So there is no point in trying to watch MTV to ...? so we'll show it to you. (Don't quote me on that because those are not his exact words) Kim seemed to have a good night. He moved around a lot and was smiling at people. He came out onto the stage extensions several times. He and Chris whispered several times during songs... Kim played Guilds, one green one and one wood finish (I don't know what kind of wood). I think he played a black one too. The sound wasn't mixed right where I was standing. The vocals were a little too far down in the mix on some songs and they were a little muddy. My ears are still ringing. Maybe the sound was mixed right and it's my ears that are messed up. I'll be able to give a much better report on the Oakland show because I won't be in the front. Oh yeah, I took pictures with a disposable camera. My "I spoke to Kim" report will follow later. Later, Tiffany ------------------------------ From: clmiller@mail.usachoice.net (Miller, Chris) Subject: BdMtrFngr i assume that's not an apology. that's ok. . . i don't really expect apologies from people like you anyway. sorry i asked too much. ------------------------------ From: Paige Marglenna Weese Subject: Re: ?question? Well, if I can't meet him, then all I can base hom on is his looks...-Paige On Mon, 2 Dec 1996, DeeDee Bradshaw-Autry wrote: > why not want to know him as a person, regardless of his marital > status...hey, maybe he is gay, why not ask that too? > > > At 03:34 PM 12/2/96 -0500, you wrote: > >Hey all, is Chris married? Of not, I'd sure like to get to know him! =) > >-Paige > > > > > ******************************************************************************** > Dee Dee Bradshaw-Autry > > "Beliefs are dangerous. Beliefs allow the mind to stop functioning. A > non-functioning > mind is clinically dead. Believe in nothing..." TOOL > > "This is what it looks like, this is what is feels like, this is what it tastes > like...this is what you've done to me..." Stabbing Westward > > "Be careful with me...I am fragile. Im a bitch babe...and Im on fire" Garbage > > http://www.infochase.com/ent/deedee/index.html > > ******************************************************************************** > > ------------------------------ From: mshaw@lib.occ.cccd.edu (RoseeMisst) Subject: Re: Favorite Bands >Every once in a while a thread comes up involving people on the list who >say Soundgarden isn't their favorite band. This usually causes some back >and forth flaming, etc. I was just wondering how we break down: how many >people say Soundgarden is their favorite and how many have bands they >like better than Soundgarden but are on the list for reasons of their >own. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to get anyone irritated, I'm >just curious. > >I must admit, when I joined the list I just assumed everyone on it was a >die-hard Soundgarden fan. They are definitely my favorite, although I >like alot of other bands. I was surprised to see people say Soundgarden >wasn't their favorite, sometimes not even in the top three. It seems >like a lot of work to read the list and keep up with it for a band who >isn't your favorite (commendable, but for me it wouldn't be worth it). > >When I found this list I was so thrilled to finally find other people as >devoted to Soundgarden as I am. Even when I don't post much I get great >satisfaction out of reading the digest and communicating with people who >share my interest in the band. So, clue me in those of you who don't >prefer Soundgarden. What is it you get from the list and what makes you >continue to wade through the mounds of posts. I'm not being critical, I >really want to know. I wonder what the percentages would be of SG as >favorite vs. SG not as favorite. Any input would be appreciated. > >Kathie I am really into Soundgarden. It's not just because of Chris. Sometimes you may get into a band because of how they look on the outside, but for me, SG was the exception. The first song I ever heard from SG was "Rusty Cage", and I gradually got hooked to SG with songs like "Jesus Christ Pose" and "Outshined". Chris' voice started to really draw me, and I just love Ben's bass and Kim's guitar. Matt's cool too--he's not your average generic drummer that's in a lot of pop bands today. When I found this list, I was so happy because the people I know offline aren't into SG like I am. I don't know anyone who has the same excitement like SOMMS members. Hey, I probably sound really sappy right now, But that's just the way I feel. There are some people who join the list and immediately unsub because they're not die-hard fans or don't want to devote their time to a mailing list. You do receive tons of mail if you're not on the digest version, but I don't mind--it's not like I read every single one word for word. It's an addiction, I guess. RoseeMisst a SOMMS freak ------------------------------ From: mshaw@lib.occ.cccd.edu (RoseeMisst) Subject: HOOTCHIE, SCHMOOTCHIE Dan Murphy posted regarding the Screaming Life book, >for all your list hootchies out there who can't get enough of chris, >specifically "old" chris with the long butt-rock hair, this book's just >the ticket! I guess I can call myself a feminist because I care about the concerns of females. Now Dan, I'm not starting a flame war, I'm just wondering what you mean by "list hootchies". What's your definition of a list hootchie? Are you referring to all female SOMMSters? I guess I understand if you meant it in jest. Am I necessarily in your category because I think Chris is handsome and he has a great musical ability? Come on now!! Not trying to be your mom or 'the feminist bitch', RoseeMistt ------------------------------ From: "Kelly Lee" Subject: Sound clips I was looking at the multimedia on Seth's page and I saw clips from Sheet Metal, Volume One. What is it and does anyone know anything else about it? Any information would be great. Thanks! Kelly L. ------------------------------ From: Steve Ford Subject: Tool/MAtt/Screaming Life book Hey! I was wondering about the CD that comes with the Screaming Life book. what is on it? also, is the book worth buying? a friend of mine owns a book store and will sell it to me half price. also, just wanted to say a few things about Matt being surpassed as a drummer. I don't think it's fair to say, just by listening to a CD that one musician is better than another. Based off the drumming I've heard on all 3 Tool CDs, Matt could play that stuff with no problem, but I'd be willing to bet that the guy from Tool could play anything on any SG album, not to slag Matt or anything. I know Matt could do things that would make most drummers head spin, that he's never done on an album. for example, I saw Sponge at Lollapalooza over the summer (waiting for SG of course) and like their music, but never really considered their drummer to be anything special. but live, he did a lot of really cool stuff that is pretty difficult (I've been playing drums for several years, so I have a good grasp on the technical aspects). so to end all of this rambling, my point is that you can't really take a musician's skill on an album to be the peak level of his/her techincal ability. I mean, I cna play any SG song on drums with minimal difficulty (even JCP after much practice), but I wouldn't dream of saying that I can play anything Matt can. alright. that's enough outta me. if anyone wants to discuss this with me privately feel free. Steve "Matt Cameron Wannabee" Ford :) ------------------------------ From: DeeDee Bradshaw-Autry Subject: Re: HOOTCHIE, SCHMOOTCHIE list hootchie is something that started in jest...no harm at all meant by it...and i think alot of the females on this list jokingly refer to themsleves as hootchies...it isnt meant in a deragatory manner at all...and in fact, the ladies i know of that are referred to in that manner or refer to themselves i that manner are very serious fans... we have other names for those trashy groupie types that make us all look bad :) DeeDee ******************************************************************************** Dee Dee Bradshaw-Autry "Beliefs are dangerous. Beliefs allow the mind to stop functioning. A non-functioning mind is clinically dead. Believe in nothing..." TOOL "This is what it looks like, this is what is feels like, this is what it tastes like...this is what you've done to me..." Stabbing Westward "Be careful with me...I am fragile. Im a bitch babe...and Im on fire" Garbage http://www.infochase.com/ent/deedee/index.html ******************************************************************************** ------------------------------ From: endless_nameless@prodigy.com (GRRL NIKI FREER) Subject: Re: BdMtrFngr about a day ago, this crap started with chris making a 'fag' comment about gavin rossdale that was unnecessary: >>>i assume that's not an apology. >>>that's ok. . . >>>i don't really expect apologies from people like you anyway. >>>sorry i asked too much. the above was chris being an asshole to eliza... the below is someone who agreed with him.... why??? >>I was shocked by the statement myself. eliza's?? because the only one to be 'shocked' by was chris's... >> Just let it go. People like that aren't worth get stressed over. Close minded people are a waste of time. You have to remember that some people are lost in their stupid little worlds where everyone and everything has to be the same. Too bad. They miss out >>on a lot, don't you think? don't you consider homophobia and/or discrimination a close minded action? i'd like to hear back from you PRIVATE E-MAIL so we can get this OFF the list on this... and if you feel we are not 'worth it' why are you here? SORRY SOMMSters...but i hate homophobia... mind riot ____ "it's a feeling that everyone gets. you're happy with your life, everything's going well, things are exciting-- when all of a sudden you realize you're unhappy in the extreme, to the point of being really, really scared. there's no particaular event you can pin the feeling down to, it's just that you realize one day that everything in your life is FUCKED!!" hello, don't you know me, i'm the dirt beneath your feet... i'm luck's last match struck in the pouring down wind... ------------------------------ From: eliza Subject: Re: ?question? Wow, I must have missed that day when looks starting having *anything* to do with sexual preference...oh or the day that looks starting having *anything* to do with marital status.....hmm sorry for the lack of sg content, but the amount of ignorance on this list the past few days has been such a damn treat On Thu, 5 Dec 1996, Paige Marglenna Weese wrote: > Well, if I can't meet him, then all I can base hom on is his > looks...-Paige > > On Mon, 2 Dec 1996, DeeDee Bradshaw-Autry wrote: > > > why not want to know him as a person, regardless of his marital > > status...hey, maybe he is gay, why not ask that too? > > > > > > At 03:34 PM 12/2/96 -0500, you wrote: > > Hey all, is Chris married? Of not, I'd sure like to get to know him! =) > > -Paige ------------------------------ From: Jeff Goodman Subject: SOMMA CD For Sale Hello SOMMA'S I'm sure everyone can relate to being low on money. I'd like to sell my SOMMA CD. If anyone is interested please email me personally. Jeff ------------------------------ From: Slave4cc@aol.com Subject: imagery is power.... (Slave4cc still pondering Chris) Imagine if you were famous: You could not go outside, or go to the 7-11 store, or anywhere without being recodnized and approached by people who you dont feel like talking to. While it would be a big thrill for them, for you it's just everyday shit. They would want your autograph and you'd smile and give it to them so they'd leave you alone. Or maybe you'd just avoid that situation all together. You would probably spent alot of time in solitude. Andy you would be wondering if all those people who bought your records really understood what you meant anyway. Hoepfully, you would know your real fans did, or knew they tried to so as not to let you down. They would know not all of it is meant to be anything more than just good music. Some of your fans would obsess, study you, write to you and love and adore you. Most wouldn't take the time. When your famous, there would be a definite division between your people and the rest of the world. Us against the outside world. Blow up the outside world! It's nice to hear from that Shroom chick they are really as nice as we thought they were, and not letting the whole "total fucking god head" thang get too big. And yes Kathie, SG is my favorite band, more than you know :). (Slave4cc spends alot of time mulling over this shit, ALOT of time) Thats me, Carol ------------------------------ From: Billy Subject: Re: Chris vs. Billy and other stuff I agree that its useless ragging on Billy Corgan and the rest of the Pumpkins. Chris Cornell and Billy Corgan are two of the best frontmen in music today, even though they are completely different. I recently saw the Pumpkins and Soundgarden within a week and they were both different, yet AMAZING shows. Both Soundagrden and the Smashing Pumpkins are incredible. I would love to hear what Chris and Billy have to say about each-other. BTW-- If you wanna rag on someone rag on Gavin Rossadel from Bush. I heard that music last time, when it was called Nirvana. Gavin should try thinking on his own for once. Bush... The next Monkees ------------------------------ From: "Jen Kern" Subject: seattle sommsfest Hello everyone!!! I am SO excited to hear that SG played Room a Thousand Years Wide at one of their shows. I hope they play it at atleast one of their Seattle shows. I'm keeping my fingers crossed!!! Well guys and gals, it's getting to be that time to try and figure something out for a Seattle Sommsfest. I've talked to a few people already and we are still trying to figure out everyone's schedules, etc.....So anyone out there that is interested in meeting up either before or after the show(s) please send me a private email and we will start setting some plans in stone. Thanks!!! JEN ------------------------------ From: ADDC Subject: Re: Favorite Bands What's up people. Had to give my opinion on this interesting subject. Soundgarden is my favorite band of all time of course, but you know..I am actually listening to them more *now* than when I first got into them back when Superunknown came out. SG is *still* in heavy rotation around my house.I encounter some aspect of Soundgarden every day..sometimes I listen to them coming home from school, or turn on the TV to see some SG video or read a Rolling Stone with a SG article in it. This list has further concreted my allegience to this band.. I could read posts about SG all day. Like Kathie said, I don't exactly know why someone who felt that SG wasn't their favorite band would sit through 100 or so posts a day. I don't mean to flame anyone here, but it does kind of befuddle me. Anyway, I better go and listen to Into The Void for the tenth straight time.. vincent -and the CDs that I am listening to now are Tool's Aenima and Soundgarden's Fresh Deadly Rarities : ) - ------------------------------ From: "Eric Stenroos" Subject: Report on Dec. 4th show... Okay, this is cool. I finally get to post my first report on a live Soundgarden experience (my first - whew). What can I say, Soundgarden kicked Ass!!! First of all we got out of the house a little late, we got at the auditorium during Pond (Sorry Tiffany - but we looked for you inside). Pond was pretty cool but Rocket from the Crypt was a little TOO much - but you guys would be proud, Sacramento was a very good crowd to the openers. Anyway, of course SG came out with "Spoonman" (Awsome). The guys all looked into it - can't remember the whole playlist but some of my personal highlights were "Hands all Over", "Outshined" "Rusty Cage" and the JCP encore. I also have to say that this was my first experience down on the floor at a concert - A whole new experience!!!! One I plan to repeat. It turned what used to be a spectator sport into Full Contact (not for the squeamish). I must say though that I caught NO negative vibes. A very positive (if intense) experience. Did anyone else go to this show? Is SG always this awsome? New but True Fan, Staci ------------------------------ From: Aferdity@aol.com Subject: STONED!!!!!! Hey everyone, Well, I was thumbing through my Rolling Stone mag and I found a section where they were reviewing albums that were released this year. Well, DOTU was mentioned and they really didn't have anything nice to say about it while not having anything really rude to say either. First of all they picked Dusty as a song to talk about. Now to me the song is good but also it doesn't sound like Chris's usual lyrics. In fact it sounds half way happy in an odd sort of way. Anyway, they sort of slash this song and try to say that this is how the whole album is. "Soundgarden are capable of tearing down walls; here, they're just rattling window." Some songs on this album are mellow while some are pretty kick-ass. I really like DOTU and everything else Soundgarden has done. Each song is different lyric and music wise. That is why I enjoy their music so much because in all the songs I've heard, none sound the same and each song has it's own meaning. I think that Rolling Stone is pissed because of how they acted towards them at the shows. Now, I know this may have been printed before all that happened but maybe not. All I'm trying to say is that I think Rolling Stone really didn't give the album the chance that it should have gotten. Just a thought, sorry to ramble on. Take care everyone!!! Toodles & Love, Kelly :) Kelly ------------------------------ From: eliza Subject: it's turnin back around.... aaaaahhhhhh!! THANK YOU TONI!! Just smiled for the first time today - got home from a hellish day at work to find on my doorstep a package of Chicago pictures from toni!!! How easy it is to get back into the grind of life and forget about such a truly amazing experience....and then to get thrown back into it with pictures (hey wait, is this a Kodak moment??) Anyway, I finally can prove to my family and friends that I really met them....there is a picture of Chris signing my BiMH single and me just watching him, smiling....and then one of me and Matt talking (kathie we look like two little kids on christmas!!!), and a great shot of the whole group at Moody's (it even has Erin!) and hey DD, there is a shot of your finger pointing at Chris ;-) and a super cool shot of Kim. I know this means little to anyone but me, but these pictures made my day. I MISS EVERYONE AND THE WHOLE EXPERIENCE....gee, ever wish that movie Groundhog Day could come true?? I'd go back to Nov. 9th... I hope these make it up on the page.. (toni, huge thanks and hugs)- eliza ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I walk these streets alone, shadows hide my face My sins are etched in stone, never to erase My fears unshakeable, if I could believe I'd trade these wings of gold, for what I really need - --CC I really only had a few things They've all turned to tears One tried to kill me The other kept me here I'm still here... - --God Lives Underwater The face before me flies Laughs at me inside Masks are made to hide the glow Shining eyes Distance 'tween us grows feeding lies - -- AIC ------------------------------ From: j_crocke@unity.ncsu.edu Subject: the tool drummer.... well, after being crushed and blown away, i now realize that the tool drummer, danney carey, has a slight advantage. He has two kick bass drums. I listened cery carefully, and that is how he does a lot of his role-offs (while utilizing his arms for variou cymbals and other things). i imagine matt could use two bass drums, but their music really doesn't allow it. And i know matt uses his left foot for a cymbal. just more thoughts, jeremy ------------------------------ From: ahorwood@gil.com.au (Alex Horwood) Subject: Re: Motor Vision Video In article "Nigel Wilks" writes: >From: "Nigel Wilks" >Subject: Motor Vision Video >Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 18:45:58 -0000 >Finally, I've found a place that has some Soundgarden videos, can someonel >let me know if MotorVison is worth getting. YES YES YES!!!! This is ABSOLUTELY fantastic...well at least for someone who has never seen the gods live...it would be worth the $30 just to see matt doing jcp *sigh* and also...the slaves and bulldozers (*my* personal favourite sg song) is just soooo beautiful...with a very interesting middle section :) SO BUY IT!!!! sorry /me crawls back into her corner Alex ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 2 Issue 324] ****************************************