From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Thursday, 5 Dec 1996 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Thu, 05 Dec 1996 03:15:37 EST Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Thursday, 5 Dec 1996 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: ultramegaconfused indie fence of matt RE: boot camp imusic contest RE: give away... t-shirts and other SG-related things I wield a ton of rage.. Motor Vision Video FREE STP ticket! Music Videos Soundgarden good. Pumpkins bad. Re: Favorite Bands Re: zero chance Tab for Little Joe Re: imusic contest Finally, SG in the flesh!!! Re: guitar world talks trash... ATN News Re: I wield a ton of rage.. helter skelter Beware do not trade with this person!!!! znd07@ttacs.ttu.edu disgusted with MTV Dec. 2nd show IMPORTANT< SEX< BdMtrFngr atypical post sg buying bonanza! Re: Shroom's Adventure Holiday procedures - README a hundred miles of chicken wire... Re: Favorite Bands Re: Shroom's Adventure magazines... Screaming Life book available... I woke the same as any other day... Re: BdMtrFngr zero chance wallowing in my own obscenity... Re: BdMtrFngr Website on hold Re: Helter Skelter ------------------------------------------------------------ From: psyche Subject: ultramegaconfused .........well I am confused........a few days ago I e-mailed KOTS asking them if they knew whether SG would actually be touring after Australia next year and this is the reply I got: - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Forwarded message - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - >To: psyche >Subject: Re: tour '97 >Date: Tue, 03 Dec 96 12:09:46 -0500 >From: Soundgarden > >-- [ From: Soundgarden * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] -- > > > >Sorry the band has no plans to tour elsewhere after the dates listed below. > >SOUNDGARDEN - NEW ZEALAND/AUSTRALIA 1997 > >JANUARY >THU 16 NZD, WELLINGTON TOWN HALL >FRI 17 NZD, AUCKLAND B.D.O. >SUN 19 AUS, GOLD COAST B.D.O. >WED 22 AUS, BRISBANE FESTIVAL HALL >SAT 25 AUS, MELBOURNE B.D.O. >SUN 26 AUS, MELBOURNE FESTIVAL HALL >MON 27 AUS, SYDNEY B.D.O. >WED 29 AUS, NEWCASTLE CENTRE >THU 30 AUS, SYDNEY HORDERN PAVILION >FRI 31 AUS, ADELAIDE B.D.O > >FEBRUARY >SUN 02 AUS, PERTH B.D.O. >TUE 04 AUS, PERTH SUPERDOME > >KOTS >Knights Of The Soundtable - - - - - - - - - - - - - - End of message- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - from that extremely verbose message I conclude that SG isn't going to be touring after this.......so does that mean they won't even make up the show they cancelled in Boston?? There has been quite a lof of talk on touring the USA sometime in Spring, so maybe they just haven't figured out the dates and venues yet........then again, KOTS said the *band* has no plans to tour after that......... still confused...... sabrina ------------------------------ From: Luck's Last Match Subject: indie fence of matt Now jeremy! How dare you say that matt has been surpassed? Ok, ok, maybe the tool guy does a few things matt can't do, or doesn't do. But how many tool songs are in 33/7? Just a thought. -j "Stand up and everyone will see your holiness" -Soundgarden. ------------------------------ From: Michele Subject: RE: boot camp Joe Cennamo wrote : > I was listening to boot camp the other day on my personal cd player > and i noticed that during the intro you can hear someone talking in > the background like a tv. > Does anyone have any idea what this guy is saying? I listened to the > song over and over and couldn't figure it out. > thanks, > > joec > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Your answer can be found at: http://www.rocknet.com/may96/soundgar.html what it says: >Sheila Reni: Is that you talking on the intro of "Boot Camp?" >Chris Cornell: I had some old, cheap pedal effect going into the >amplifier and it picked up the radio and it was really loud. So I >just lifted the thing off and found a spot in the room where it >picked it up the best and we just ran a tape on it. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ So no it is not a TV. We have had this discussion before, Hopefully this can asnwer your questions. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >July 18,1996 of the digest erin@planet.eon.net posted : > > Okay.. This is what I got out of the mumblings at the beginning of > > Boot Camp. I think it's either a speech from a senator (or some > > other American-type politician or an analyst): "We're gonna > > increase taxes, increase taxes for the increased people coming > > into retirement. That will give us a centrepiece for income tax > > index [somethings I didn't get] which means that when people come > > back next year there'll be even less and even less the year after > > that and if inflation keep sgoing up that tax will be in such good > > meaning we can't think of losing it. [music] I'll tell you this, > > inflation is a grave digger. It causes this which leads to that > > which can stop giving meaning to this which will lead to > > extinction." That's what I got by turning off the left speaker and > > only listening to the right (I figured that most of the music was > > coming out of the left speaker). It doesn't make sense to me in > > some places, so I assume some of the things are wrong, but that's > > what I heard. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Matt pays attention to the Websites.~Chris Cornell this quote can also be found at: http://www.rocknet.com/may96/soundgar.html I am just a babbling fool really, Michele ------------------------------ From: Michele Subject: imusic contest Ok you know how imusic had that backstage passes on the offical soundgarden page well I think I found the winner: Stephen M. Lane http://imusic.interserv.com/soundgarden/contest/ or is this just a guy who won tickets? I thought managment pulled that other contest. I least that what somebody said. I am just a babbling fool really, Michele ------------------------------ From: DeeDee Bradshaw-Autry Subject: RE: give away... *drum roll please* and the winner of the disk is...Carolyn Hanel...*wild cheering and clapping* send me your address ma'am and it'll be on its way... DeeDee ***TOOL..TONIGHT..AAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGHHHHHHH*** ******************************************************************************** Dee Dee Bradshaw-Autry "Beliefs are dangerous. Beliefs allow the mind to stop functioning. A non-functioning mind is clinically dead. Believe in nothing..." TOOL "This is what it looks like, this is what is feels like, this is what it tastes like...this is what you've done to me..." Stabbing Westward "Be careful with me...I am fragile. Im a bitch babe...and Im on fire" Garbage http://www.infochase.com/ent/deedee/index.html ******************************************************************************** ------------------------------ From: "R.A.Yakupov" Subject: t-shirts and other SG-related things Hi, SOMMSters. I'm fan of SG from Moscow and I have one prodlem. I want a couple of SG t-shirts but I have no chance to find any in Moscow. But I have a friend of mine who lives near Boston.So tell me where in Boston he can find such a shop where he can buy some t-shirts and approximately how much they cost. E-mail me please if you have any information concerning this, I will be VERY grateful to you for help. If in Boston there is no such shop, then maybe somewhere in NY, 'cause my friend will be there soon. Thanx for your attention. Later. Renat. ------------------------------ From: ADDC Subject: I wield a ton of rage.. You know, I hope Chris reads that Guitar World article. I hope he reads it and gets so mad that *hopefully* if he ever sees Gavin Rossdale somewhere at some function or something, that he goes right up to him and breaks his face. Actually after reading about how he thinks SG is a horrible rock band, just set Matt, Kim, and of course the MadMan Ben on his ass. Actually I am *just* kidding..maybe.... vincent ------------------------------ From: "Nigel Wilks" Subject: Motor Vision Video Finally, I've found a place that has some Soundgarden videos, can someonel let me know if MotorVison is worth getting. Way to go Shroom. Nigel. Nigel Wilks Support Consultant NCR (UK) Ltd ------------------------------ From: "Wilson Vanessa Faye" Subject: FREE STP ticket! hi- so i have a free ticket to see the Pilots in atlanta on friday, dec. 6th (please forgive me for being non-related to SG, but I'm gettin' desperate....60$ nonrefundable..) so any north carolineans out there, if you're interested, let me know! it's vfwilson@catawba.edu thanks! vanessa ------------------------------ From: Rebekah Henderson Subject: Music Videos Have you ever found yourself watching videos on MTV and thinking, "SG could do better"? I mean, I've started to compare videos that I used to like to SG's videos and now I don't like those videos as much. I was watching MTV today and the Presidents of the United States of America came on with "Mach 5". I'm not a big PUSA fan, but I think that song is cute. I was watching it today and a thought just pop in my head: "Soundgarden is so much better than this." I mean most multimedia is rated using stars and four is the most you can get, right? Well, Chris Cornell is four stars by himself! Not including the other guys in the band and everyone's talent and the song itself!! Once you factor in all of that plus the VIDEO, well you've got a 33 star video on your hands!! Just thought I would share this brainstorm with you! May Soundgarden be with you. Rebekah ------------------------------ From: Slave4cc@aol.com Subject: Soundgarden good. Pumpkins bad. Catchy title, aye? ;) It seems no matter who I compare SG with and Chris's voice, including R. Plant, Chris always wins. Let's compare Chris with mellon head from Smashing Pumpkins for a moment shall we? Chris sings melodically, hits every note, screams beautifully, gets high and low and hits everything in between AND plays a kick ass guitar. Mellon head (whatever the hell his name is) has no vocal range, sings either way to high, or that low croaky singing he does. He simply has no middle range at all from what I've seen. Plus he is so bizzare to look at. I look at him with this puzzled bewilderment like I would if I saw a space alien...Hey, wait a minute.... Chris I could look at all day long. He is beautiful. I try to imagine him doing those everyday, not so glamorous things we all do in life to bring myself down to the ground. Well, there is my .02 worth for today. Peace and Happiness. Carol in MT ------------------------------ From: Shogun Subject: Re: Favorite Bands At 09:27 PM 12/4/96 -0600, you wrote: >I was surprised to see people say Soundgarden >wasn't their favorite, sometimes not even in the top three. It seems >like a lot of work to read the list and keep up with it for a band who >isn't your favorite (commendable, but for me it wouldn't be worth it). > > So, clue me in those of you who don't >prefer Soundgarden. What is it you get from the list and what makes you >continue to wade through the mounds of posts. I'm not being critical, I >really want to know. I wonder what the percentages would be of SG as >favorite vs. SG not as favorite. Any input would be appreciated. > >Kathie > I can understand why those "die hard" SG fans are irritated when someone posts a letter on the list proclaiming that Soundgarden isn't their favorite band. There's no need to state it to someone who really loves the group. I myself have only recently started to enjoy the sounds of Chris and Co. I had heard them about 5 years ago and thought they were pretty cool, but never followed up the interest. After hearing dotu, I became serious about the band. I know I have missed much of their pre-Ben music, but this doesn't make me any less of a fan. I am still hoping that I'll be able to see them live before they finally call it quits with touring, and I am trying to gather all their past albums. I love this list and those who post on it, even though many of them may not particularly care for me. I hope to see the SOMMS crew sometime. However, regarding your question pertaining to those who subscribe to the list and are not great fans I can only say that they may be interested in what goes on, and are curious. I know I was, and now I can't get enough of it. I hope this was some help. Matt "...and I hope it's a sweet ride..." ------------------------------ From: Shogun Subject: Re: zero chance At 11:29 PM 12/4/96 -0500, >Anyone have a tab for zero chance? > > While you're at it, send it my way as well. Last time I checked, zero chance wasn't on the homepage. thanks Matt ------------------------------ From: atnadzri@vax1.tristate.edu Subject: Tab for Little Joe Hi people.... Long time since i've post something... Anyway..does anyone know the tab for the song Little jOe?? Is that song written by SG?? Does SG sounds better playing outdoors or indoors?what do u guys think?? One last question..... Has anyone here who had send in $2 to the FC received anything yet??I've been waiting for 3 months and still nothing..wonder why? Thanxx.... Andri "The wreck is going down..head down before u drown.." ------------------------------ Subject: Re: imusic contest From: seth > Ok you know how imusic had that backstage passes on the offical > soundgarden page well I think I found the > winner: Stephen M. Lane > > http://imusic.interserv.com/soundgarden/contest/ This is an old contest, from before the site was redone on October 15. For some reason they didn't delete the page. The contest to win a "backstage pass" to secret sections of the official website disappeared about a week after it was first posted... seth ------------------------------ From: Lynne Low Subject: Finally, SG in the flesh!!! "Mind clear" as my best friend Ray would say. Here goes..what a fantastic experience! For years I have listened to SG and been moved by the lyrics and the music. I feel so connected to them. Being able to see their movements while playing their instruments, watching the expressions on Chris' face, feeling the music deep inside. I could feel myself floating away. Chris walked on stage with a huge smile on his face. The guys all seemed happy. I couldn't see Matt very well from where I was sitting - giant speakers blocked my view! After hearing all of the stories about Ben I was expecting some monster. No way! He seemed very mellow and relaxed. I felt the need to hold him because he's so misunderstood. I won't go into a song list because I don't remember the order. That's ok - I'm sure others with post it. Chris's voice-what can be said? Amazing range! The highs, the lows and everything inbetween he handled so naturally. He is so intense. It hard for me to believe that he sings these songs over and over because they sounded so fresh-almost like they were playing them for the first time. Does this make sense? The band is tight. They flow together. Matt - what a drummer! I only wish I could have seen him better because he was rocking! He has to be one of the greatest drummers of all time. Kim - I was in awe watching him fingers dance upon the strings. He was wearing a Terror Crew t-shirt. Ben- He was cool, quiet and did what he was born to do. I would love to sit and chat with him about music. I have a thing for bass players. "Jesus Christ Pose," "Blow Up the Outside World" and "Rusty Cage" are the songs that stood out the most for me. I'm surprised because they did my favorites but these got to me the most. Again, the band was hot! Some Quotes - "We're from Seattle where the high school teachers shoot heroin and it rains 365 days of the year." "You get to live in beautiful California where the sun shines everyday." - Chris "This is the part of the show where I usually rant about something but if you cancel your Rolling Stone subscriptions I won't." - Chris "This is our new single about to be release on the radio."- Chris (He then went into "Ty Cobb" and the audience went wild! Everybody sang along. There were some private whispers between Chris and Kim (I wonder what they were talking about?) The crowd behaved themselves. No one threw anything at the guys. I met Christy and Dena! I was pumped up by their energy from the moment I met them. Thanks for hanging with me! It was a wonderful first time experience that I will never forget. I could go into more detail but to be honest with you I am still somewhat dazed by the whole evening. As silly as it might sound it was extremely personal and spiritual for me. Lynne ------------------------------ From: Joe Cennamo Subject: Re: guitar world talks trash... > the entire staff of guitar world talks trash. whatever is the trend, > whoever is selling and flooding the radio is glamourized and made to > seem godlike. for once i'd like to see a piece on sg that has some > substance. i don't want some kind of filler stuck in there to appease > people like me who think that this could be interesting and buy that > fucking rag. > i think that sg, both the music produced and the group of musicians who > create it, warrants an article that portrays them as more than a group > of freaks on the fringe of some dumb-ass musical movement. (read > critic-inspired buzzword that easily categorizes the placement of a cd > in a certain section of a record store). I read a pretty good interview with Kim thayil in guitar about a year ago. I never read the magizine for the articles, it has good tab, and every once in a while something worth reading. joec ------------------------------ From: "Steven Russell Jr." Subject: ATN News Hey List from today's addicted to noise, music news of the world. And yet another example of the impending apocolypse early in the next millenium. - -------------------------------- Addicted To Noise staff writer Gil Kaufman reports: If you just can't bear to put down your martini, or part with your speckled swizzle stick for even a moment, then you'll be tickled lime green to hear that Hollywood Records is releasing something called Lounge-A-Palooza next spring. > The compilation, which features big names, smaller names matched with big names and some truly odd (some might say inspired) pairings of big, middle and little names, comes on the heels of the Cocktail Nation craze, which seemingly peaked about two years ago. > The most frightening names on the list of luminaries are perennial Sinatra punching bags Steve Lawrence and Eydie Gorme, who were somehow coaxed into performing a cover of Soundgarden's "Black Hole Sun," backed by a 30-piece orchestra. We can only hope this doesn't do for them what Tony Bennett's career resurgence did to us. - ------------------------------------ Steve - - "you dropped a bomb on me, baby" ------------------------------ From: j_crocke@unity.ncsu.edu Subject: Re: I wield a ton of rage.. can someone please clue me in on the article and what was said about soundgarden. thanks, jerm ------------------------------ From: "stella" Subject: helter skelter I heard Helter Skelter (Soundgarden's version of it anyways) for the first time at the LA concert and I was totally blown away. From other reviews, I knew it was going to be a great cover but I didn't expect it to be so great! I loved the way they slowed it down, and Chris' vocals worked great with the song. It gave the song an eerie feeling especially since they mixed it with Bootcamp. If or when they release the next single (my guess is its Dusty since they had some video footage for it during the concert already), I hope they record HS and add it as a B-side. Either that or the cover of Waiting for the Sun. They've been doing that song for a long time to. Just to start a new thread, what would yall like to see as a b-side? stella ------------------------------ From: alister@aztec.asu.edu (ALISTER WILLIAM CUNNINGHAM) Subject: Beware do not trade with this person!!!! znd07@ttacs.ttu.edu znd07@ttacs.ttu.edu This person is a bad trader and totally flaked out after we agreed to send things out on the same day. I was even cool and shipped a couple of days earlier than we planned! I've E-mailed him several times and have gotten no replies, so looks like I got burned! Complete Dick!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I will post his address and phone number once I find it, just incase he decides to use another account:) The Prick!!!! From: znd07@ttacs.ttu.edu (Gimli) To: alister@aztec.asu.edu (ALISTER WILLIAM CUNNINGHAM) Subject: Re: boots. Date: Thu, 14 Nov On Thu, 14 Nov 1996, ALISTER WILLIAM CUNNINGHAM wrote: > I mailed the goods today! :) Cool, but I thought we agreed on Saturday? I will definately mail mine by saturday. ------------------------------ From: "Jen Kern" Subject: disgusted with MTV Hello, fellow SOMMSters!!! I hope everyone is doing well! 6 more days and Soundgarden will be HOME!!!! I've read so many reviews of their tour, I can't wait to finally get to see them for myself!!! It's been torture!!! Okay, the rest of this is not SG related (I apologize to Seth and our Somms Sheriff--please don't arrest me!) I decided to go ahead and post this after several people had mentioned that MTV should be banned/boycotted. After reading this I was seriously disgusted. Here it is: "AND THIS WEEK'S LAMENESS PERSONIFIED AWARD GOES TO: The cast and crew of MTV's BUZZKILL program who recently visited Portland, Oregon to film stunts for their program in which they play pranks on unsuspecting victims and record it all for posterity. According to the December 1st issue of THE OREGONIAN, the BUZZKILL episode filmed in Portland that aired on September 21st did not really tell the whole story. Apparently, one of the pranks involves a learning impaired man, but the segment did NOT show footage of one of the Buzzkill cameras whacking the victim in the mouth and causing more than $3000 damage to his teeth (and the Buzzkill team subsequently practically passing out from laughing so much about what they had just done). The victim reportedly has no health insurance and MTV have so far refused to cough up payment. This totally sucks." I got that from the Vibe http://metaverse.com/vibe/sleaze/sleaze.12-04-96.html Gee, what little admiration I had left for MTV is quickly going down the drain. That's all for now!!!!! JEN ------------------------------ From: ROGER SLATER Subject: Dec. 2nd show I just got back from the Dec 2nd LA show. It was wonderful. I somehow convinced the KROQ DJ to give me pit passes so I was at the front of the stage all night. It was too great. The band seemed really happy. Chris was smiling and laughing a lot. I made eye contact with Kim and he smiled at me for about a minute or so. Chris's voice sounded really good. When they played Jerry Garcia's finger the band went to the side of the stage and I noticed that Matt and Ben were in the corner playing it. Matt was playing the guitar and I think Ben was playing the bass. I wasn't sure if they were really playing it or if it was a recording. Did anybody else realize that? There seemed to be a lot of top 40 people there who only knew popular songs like Black Hole Sun and Burden in My Hand. There were more families and younger kids than I expected. The people that were around me in the pit seemed like they were there to see Black Hole Sun and didn't know anything before Superunknown. When they played Hands all over everyone around me was quiet. I was kind of disappointed. The worst part of the evening was when this 10 year girl caught Matt's drumstick and before the concert she asked me what band was going to play! She was only there because her dad was some producer. I thought that the concert was great and the band seemed like they were having a lot of fun. I saw the SOMMS sign :) and I saw Kim make a weird face at it. It was great. This was the best SG concert that I've seen. :) Thanks for listening Lisa :) - ----Kim smiled at me!!!!!---- PS Did anyone else(who is going to the oakland show) hear that if you wear KSJO stuff you could win backstage passes? Maybe I'm just dreaming. ------------------------------ From: DiMarrzio@aol.com Subject: IMPORTANT< SEX< Greetings again list, How is everyone? Hopefully good. I have direct information from the owner of a large venue in my area. ( Starwood, all you Nashvillians ) And supposedly they have SG scheduled at some point in July. This of course seems odd that they would come back here after playing here but a mere two or three weeks ago. But, this is official stuff. The July lineup has already been set. I'm sort of just throwing this out there. If anyone would like to put their two cents in, go for it. - -catchy email closing here- Blake ------------------------------ From: clmiller@mail.usachoice.net (Miller, Chris) Subject: BdMtrFngr please keep the "fag" comments to yourself. those of us who subscribe to the alternative lifestyle don't approve. mr. cornell, i'm sure, would give you a severe tongue-lashing for that language. tanx. ------------------------------ From: clmiller@mail.usachoice.net (Miller, Chris) Subject: atypical post ok. . .i'm sure you saw my non-soundgardenish post on the "fag" comment. first of all, i DO NOT like gavin rossdale or bush. the reason i said it is because i come here to share experiences and information about THE greatest band in the world. we all have a common interest and that should draw us together. isn't that what music is about? isn't that SPECIAL??? but i digress. . .any spring tour dates/locations yet? lemme know GeekGirl. . .i have been e-mailing you incessantly about somms shirts. i have yet to receive any reply or acknowledgement. please don't dissapoint me. . .i know that you were having trouble with your phone lines, but if you could at least post the mailing address, check amount, and who to make it payable to, i could get it in the mail asap. tanx. as soon as i receive "from the mouth of decadence" i will give a review. Lance, i am eagerly awaiting the tape! oh. . .someone posted the other day about a mistake that chris made in his guitar playing on a song. well, i found another. if you have a good stereo, or if you use the Packard Bell Audiostation, listen to "the day i tried to live". at the very beginning, in the left channel, right before the high slide part begins, you can hear someone fumbling with the guitar strings. . .sounds like a few clicks or something. just thought that you might be interested. finally. . .was listening to bmf on the way to the university today. . .does anyone know what the symbolism of ". . .and it's raining icepicks on your steel shores. . ." means? that line has always chilled me and i get such a cold vision when i hear it. please share your views. ". . .don't let the world bring you down." ~~C. Cornell tanx. ------------------------------ From: UnknownFan@aol.com Subject: sg buying bonanza! hey guys-- thanks to everyone who responded to my self pollution radio question. to prevent that kind of problem from happening again..i went to tower after work and got a bunch of sg cd-singles incl: fobd parts one and two (with, as i'm sure you all know, kyle petty :-)) as well as songs from the su and spoonman import single. oh! and the louder than live video. i am so pyched! laura ------------------------------ From: oponfam@cnsnet.com Subject: Re: Shroom's Adventure What happened to shroom just shows what persistence can do, especially in a smaller city. I think everyone who lives in smaller cities and wants to meet the band should pay heed to what Shroom was able to do. I was absolutely amazed at her luck, after seeing the security surrounding the band in Chicago (not only their own security people, but venue security too). Monnica wasn't it you who lost your guest pass and even Erin couldn't get you past security until she got you another one? And its probably the same in New York and LA. What Shroom did also took alot of courage. I guess what I'm trying to say is if you really want it to happen it seems there are ways to do it. The band is even more friendly and approachable than I ever imagined. And more and more I see how valuable this list is both to us and to the band. I wonder if those of us who have been so lucky to meet them this tour would have been able to do so if it weren't for their familiarity (and probably curiosity) with the list. I kind of doubt it. So thanks again Seth for starting this whole thing. And PLEASE don't let the list die when you graduate! Kathie ------------------------------ Subject: Holiday procedures - README From: seth I'm starting early this year... I know many of you, especially those of you at school, will be going away for the holidays and plan to be unsubscribing from the list while you're gone. Please follow these guidelines for unsubbing during the holidays: 1. Email me the DAY BEFORE you wish to stop receiving messages. 2. Do NOT email me and say "Can you unsub me 7 days from now and then resub me on January 4?" I went through that last year and it wasn't fun. Just email me the day before you want to stop receiving messages and then email me when you get back and I'll resub you. Simple as that. On another holiday note, I'll be in New York from December 18 to January 2 (probably). I will be checking my email, but not as frequently as I do at school, so if you try to unsub, and don't hear from me for a couple of days, I apologize in advance for the inconvenience. I will also be mailing out digests irregularly during that time. The next big holiday is, well, the rest of my life after June 6, when I graduate. :) There are definitely going to be some changes at that time with both the list and the website, but I hope to work it out in January and I'll let everyone know what's up. seth (listadmin) ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: a hundred miles of chicken wire... On Sun, 1 Dec 1996, Geoff wrote: > The song you are referring to would be Kyle Petty, Son of Richard. It's > a b-said for a few singles including FOBD and a different mix appears on > the Home-Alive compilation. I actually think that the version of kyle petty on the _home alive_ record is actually a re-recording of the song, and not just a remix of the existing track/partials. at least that is what it sounded like to me the one and only time I heard it. for instance, the bridge just before kim's solo (which is basically ben and matt playing the main thud from the intro) has a slightly different drum roll to the b-side version. of course, it could be possible that matt did two alternate drum takes, and brendan o'brien just used the second one which wasn't used on the first version. ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide - words by kim thayil ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: oponfam@cnsnet.com Subject: Re: Favorite Bands Every once in a while a thread comes up involving people on the list who say Soundgarden isn't their favorite band. This usually causes some back and forth flaming, etc. I was just wondering how we break down: how many people say Soundgarden is their favorite and how many have bands they like better than Soundgarden but are on the list for reasons of their own. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to get anyone irritated, I'm just curious. I must admit, when I joined the list I just assumed everyone on it was a die-hard Soundgarden fan. They are definitely my favorite, although I like alot of other bands. I was surprised to see people say Soundgarden wasn't their favorite, sometimes not even in the top three. It seems like a lot of work to read the list and keep up with it for a band who isn't your favorite (commendable, but for me it wouldn't be worth it). When I found this list I was so thrilled to finally find other people as devoted to Soundgarden as I am. Even when I don't post much I get great satisfaction out of reading the digest and communicating with people who share my interest in the band. So, clue me in those of you who don't prefer Soundgarden. What is it you get from the list and what makes you continue to wade through the mounds of posts. I'm not being critical, I really want to know. I wonder what the percentages would be of SG as favorite vs. SG not as favorite. Any input would be appreciated. Kathie ------------------------------ From: Stella Rogers Subject: Re: Shroom's Adventure On Wed, 4 Dec 1996 oponfam@cnsnet.com wrote: > its probably the same in New York and LA. What Shroom did also took alot > of courage. Yeah the LA shows was heavy security. Plus most of them were assholes. They don't even let you stay around after the show. They immediately shove you out. I don't know if that happens at all venues so don't laugh at me and think to yourself "she doesn't know what she's talking about!" Anyways after the first show in LA, we tried to get a set list and some picks since the roadies were throwing them to the people that tried to stayed behind. Oh yeah which reminds me...Dena, Christy and I met that one girl that caused that flame war cuz she said she wore a short skirt and let some drunk guy fondle her just so she could get closer to the band at Lolla. Remember her? I think her name was Jennifer or Jessica. I forget. But she's nice and wants everone to know that that's just how she dresses. Anyways...back to what I was saying...we were trying to get the set list and security just started shoving us away and saying, "Move along folks. I need you to be leaving the building." We couldn't even stay around outside unless it was like near the parking structure. Whoa, I'm rambling. sorry. stella ------------------------------ From: Brian Subject: magazines... joe, > I read a pretty good interview with Kim thayil in guitar about a year > ago. I never read the magazine for the articles, it has good tab, and > every once in a while something worth reading. yep. gotta agree with you there. i read guitar world and used to be heavily into guitar magazine too. they both have pretty good tab that covers a few different musical styles. used to see tabbed hendrix, soundgarden, and some classic rock bullshit that i enjoy playing myself. even saw an issue where they had the complete score to a guns and roses tune, drums and everything. i would just love to see a heavy-duty feature on sg where they talked to all the members of the band about everything: playing styles, influences, equipment, blah blah blah... just, more soundgarden. make that mag about 200 pages thick! i think sometimes it sounds like i'm ragging. sometimes i am :) thanks for the message. see you on the digest... brian ------------------------------ From: Dan Murphy Subject: Screaming Life book available... To anyone that is interesting in ordering charles peterson's "Screaming Life" for a loved one for Christmas, you will be glad to know that the UW Bookstore has plenty of copies left at 50% off - that's only $17.50, including the compilation CD that came with the first 40,000 books. i got it last month and boy am i glad i did! :) for all your list hootchies out there who can't get enough of chris, specifically "old" chris with the long butt-rock hair, this book's just the ticket! you can order the book through the store at www.bookstore.u.washington.edu or bookstor@u.washington.edu (that's without the "e") Has anyone received a "happy holidays from soundgarden" postcard yet? Last year i got mine after super bowl sunday... what's the deal with the seattle somms fest? danno six more days..."and i'm on my way, on my way..." ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: I woke the same as any other day... On Fri, 29 Nov 1996, eliza wrote: > completely different effect on me now. Anyone else experienced a concert > changing how you feel about a song? my experience (or what I can remember of it) is similar to your's, eliza. it was the first time I saw the band live, just before the release of superunknown. in fact, I think it was only a week before the release of the first single from that record, spoonman. so of course I hadn't heard any of the new material from the upcoming album. to digress for a moment, this was an interesting time for me. till that year I had only been a casual fan of the band. sure, I owned bmf/somms, but I knew little of the band or much of their previous three records. but on a fateful summer's morning, I walked into a newsagency and picked up the latest rolling stone magazine (sorry, chris) while waiting for my girlfriend to meet me. I flipped through the first couple of pages and came across an article regarding the australian big day out music festival, and how soundgarden would be playing it for the first time to support their new album. I thought that was cool, but what really blew my socks off was the full-page ad on the following page. an uncut version of the superunknown cover (the one that *does* include matt) metaphorically hit me in the face, and I was overwhelmed. the bmf cover art may be their best, but there is little in the band's art catalogue which is as cool to me as the screaming elf/burning forest artwork. my reaction is difficult to describe. I was literally slavering for the album by that afternoon, that much I can say. oh...where was I? ah, concert experiences :) it was at that show in january 1994 when I first heard the songs fell on black days and spoonman. and even though that was the very first time I had heard them, they moved me just as much as any other song they played that night (including jcp and incessant mace); the immediacy of both songs was incredible, and it has coloured my perspective on both since. I know that spoonman doesn't get much respect on this list (skippers beware), but since that show I have admired the song for it's infectuous beat and perfect performance. maybe if I hadn't seen it played so well live, I wouldn't enjoy it as much. ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide - words by kim thayil ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: BdMtrFngr Subject: Re: BdMtrFngr To all fags out there i am sorry about the previous fag reference. To all 15 year old girls out there who watch Mtv all day, i am sorry too On Wed, 4 Dec 1996, Miller, Chris wrote: > let's keep the "fag" comments to yourself please. > those of us who live that everpopular alternative lifestyle > might have to object. > > mr. cornell would give you a tongue lashing for that language. > > tanx. > ------------------------------ From: BdMtrFngr Subject: zero chance Anyone have a tab for sero chance? ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: wallowing in my own obscenity... I got this from microsoft's music news page. sounds like it was spot the star the other night, no? "soundgarden's second show at L.A.'s universal amphitheater was the place to be on monday night. that was, except for moshers. the venue told tln that moshing was not allowed at the show, per the band's request - - odd for a band that was always a favorite of stagedivers. just as he did in new york, chris cornell harangued rolling stone, telling the crowd, "I hope you've all canceled your subscriptions," referring to the unflattering profile the august rag did on eddie vedder last month. "the crowd was studded with such celebs as red hot chili peppers drummer chad smith palling around with american records label prexy and chilis producer rick rubin and black crowes producer george drakoulias; art alexakis and greg eklund from everclear; matt sorum, drummer for the soon-to be resuscitated guns n' roses; ben stiller; guy oseary - the maverick records maven who signed alanis morissette; all three members of silverchair (whom the label heads call silverchildren behind their backs), with their mothers in tow; and brad wilk, the drummer for rage against the machine, who was looking awfully chummy with his girlfriend of six months, the fetching vocalist from 7 year bitch, selene vigil..." ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide - words by kim thayil ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: eliza Subject: Re: BdMtrFngr This has got to be one of the rudest and most ignorant sentences i have seen in a loooooong time....can we please keep this kind of insensitive and offensive shit off the list? At 11:27 PM 12/4/96 -0500, BdMtrFngr wrote: >To all fags out there i am sorry about the previous fag reference. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I walk these streets alone, shadows hide my face My sins are etched in stone, never to erase My fears unshakeable, if I could believe I'd trade these wings of gold, for what I really need - --CC I really only had a few things They've all turned to tears One tried to kill me The other kept me here I'm still here... - --God Lives Underwater The face before me flies Laughs at me inside Masks are made to hide the glow Shining eyes Distance 'tween us grows feeding lies - -- AIC ------------------------------ Subject: Website on hold From: seth There won't be any additions to the website for at least a few days, maybe longer. I've finally managed to drive the tolerant folks at Stargate Industries (sgi.net) over the edge, so I've got to remove a ton of files before I can add more, which is only fair (I don't know, something about my using a few hundred MB...). As soon as I dump about 100MB of files, we'll be back in business. I should be able to take care of it this weekend. You guys didn't really like that multimedia section anyway, did you? Just kidding. :) seth ------------------------------ From: jlemerci@artcenter.edu (Johann Lemercier) Subject: Re: Helter Skelter >I hope they record HS and add it as >a B-side. Either that or the cover of Waiting for the Sun. They've >been doing that song for a long time to. Just to start a new thread, >what would yall like to see as a b-side? > > >stella Here's what I'd like as B-sides for X-mas: - - an acoustic (banjo!) version of Ty Cobb... :) - - Helter Skelter (fast paced) - - BUTOW on CD-Rom with this cool little movie and other things... - - a new song written by Ben! What do you guys think? - -Johann "Are you gonna bark all day, little doggie? Or are you gonna bite?" - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://lounge.artcenter.edu/students/jlemerci/ My tape list is at: http://lounge.artcenter.edu/students/jlemerci/boot.htm - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 2 Issue 323] ****************************************