From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Thursday, 28 Nov 1996 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 20:50:34 EST Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Thursday, 28 Nov 1996 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu ***listadmin note: Sorry this one is late. Service is so unreliable lately :) I'm in New York for the Thanksgiving weekend, and this is the first chance I've had to check my mail -- the digest for Friday will also be on its way shortly. -seth Today's Topics: Houston Show Re: MTV Europe ban BUTOW!!!!!! Hype Review Chris and the Occult houston (long post, but worth it IMHO) Re: 'Songs for Ozzy' EP Re: Hype tonight in DC! ???????? re:I don't expect anyone to know this ... Soundgarden stuff Re: MTV Europe ban BUTOW!!!!!! RE: Soundgarden stuff Kerrang/Hype! competition MTV Europe ban BUTOW!!!!!! Slash and SG extra tix for 12/1 show in LA Re: Slash and SG Re: MTV Europe ban BUTOW!!!!!! HAPPY BIRTHDAY MATT! Warning: A lot of mushiness and some Soundgarden content too I'll take my secrets to the grave... 34 spankings! Sacramento Show (Dec. 4th) he lives these years that I walk blind... Re: DOTU best album of 96? I hear the click clack of your feet on the stairs... Re: he lives these years that I walk blind... Re: I'll take my secrets to the grave... Re: Slash and SG ------------------------------------------------------------ From: Woehsty@aol.com Subject: Houston Show Well for an old Safeway store it wasn't too bad. SG were great, although I think Ben was having a bad time - probably didn't like the venue (can't blame him). For other female fans who'll appreciate this, Chris was shirtless for the entire show, with the rest of the guys dressed in black. They opened with Spoonman and ended with Jesus Christ Pose that rocked!!! I guess all the fans who were at the show only own the most recent album because the when they played Hands All Over and JCP people around me were just standing there. And I was so Excited!! Anyhow, I had a fantastic time. Thought that Chris's voice sounded good and they put on a great show. This is the third time I've seen them and the smallest show I've seen them at which I thought kicked ass because I could get closer to the stage. ------------------------------ From: "stella" Subject: Re: MTV Europe ban BUTOW!!!!!! > >Hey Euro-sommsters! Don't expect to see Blow Up The Outside World jockeying > >for heavy rotation alongside the Spice Girls and Robbie Williams! > > > >This, from today's Melody Maker... > > > >"Soundgarden have had the video to their Blow Up The Outside World single > >banned by MTV. The video, directed by Gerry Casale who used to play in Devo, > >features scenes of intravenous drug use and, horror of horrors, people > >making love. > > > >>UKDeb > > > >Hi Deb, > > That's too bad. The scenes they are talking about in the video pass by so > quickly on the screen. There isn't anything that hasn't been seen before Whats weird is that the US version had the video sort of censored. They covered the part up where someone was shooting up. Now in the times I have seen it in the past couple of days it's not that much censored anymore. They took off the cover up. stella ------------------------------ From: Nevin Subject: Hype Review For a not so flattering review of Hype check out: http://www.salon1999.com/nov96/hype961125.html It has some interesting things to say. - -Nevin ------------------------------ From: Zbigniew Nitecki Subject: Chris and the Occult Kind of an off the wall question, Does anyone know if Chris Cornell has any occult interests? - -Zbigniew ------------------------------ From: SkyVista96@aol.com Subject: houston (long post, but worth it IMHO) Hey everyone!! I finally got to go to my first SG show! I had the greatest time. Except for my parents constantly bitching about getting lost on the way down there. For anyone who's interested, we drove 4 and half hours for this show. It was me, my friend Stacie, and both my parents. Kind of weird that my parents came, but they paid for everything so it was cool. We got there just after Pond had started playing. They aren't too bad. Then RFTC came on. The only one of their songs I liked was On A Rope. I couldn't understand what the fuck he was saying on every other song so I guess that's why they didn't appeal to me, although Stacie though the tambourine/trumpet guy was fine. But by the end of their set, I couldn't wait for them to get off the stage. I know it's a mean thing to say, but hey, SG was next. When the guys came on-stage, I was screaming my lungs out ( I apologize to the two guys in front of me for that). The place went completely wild when they started playing Spoonman. I wasn't even close to the front and I got pounded and sprayed with beer. When Searching... started, everyone calmed down (except for me of course) because I don't think they'd ever heard that song before. Anyway, things went pretty much like that. The radio songs got lots of yelling and the rest just got applause at the end from the audience. They played these songs (I couldn't remember the order if I tried): Spoonman, Searching..., Let Me Drown, Rusty Cage, Outshined, Slaves and Bulldozers, My Wave, Fell On Black Days, Helter Skelter/Boot Camp, BUTOW, BHS (Chris only as you already probably know), Pretty Noose, Rhinosaur, Hands All Over, Ty Cobb (I loved that one), , BIMH. Encore: JCP Only one song for encore. I loved the Kim toasting the crowd and chugging the beer bit. CC was right, for the place being and old Safeway, the sound was excellent. I heard every word said. There was some feedback from the mic during FOBD and BUTOW, but besides that, everything was incredible. The highlights for me were Rusty Cage, Hands All Over and Ty Cobb, although every song kicked ass. Ben didn't do much for the first couple of songs, then he moved over to Kim's side of the stage and played there for a while and told Kim something which made him laugh. I guess maybe someone threw something at him because when he finally went back over, he stood really far away form the edge of the stage. At some point he went up to Chris's mic and basically told some "fucking piece of shit" what he could do with himself. Later he griped at "hatboy" for throwing shit. A couple of songs later Ben went back over and waved his hand in front of Kim's face. I thought that was funny and Kim didn't even blink. He is one fucking incredible guitar player. Matt was awesome. He was just pounding away back there. He was hard to see because of all the smoke and weird lighting, but every once and a while I'd see his hair flying around. Chris's voice sounded good. There were a couple of parts in the first couple of songs that just made me cringe, but once he got rolling, it was beautiful. And the best part (visually): Chris took off his shirt. Not just for the encore. It came off in the third or fourth song. I know Shroom must have been up there jumpin' for joy. I know Stacie and I were. Well, I guess that's all for Houston. My ears are still ringing, literally. I probably shouldn't have stood three rows back from the speaker during Pond's and RFTC's sets, but oh well. My eyes still burn when I close them from getting so dried out because of all the smoke. But it was all worth it: the bitchy parents, the freezing cold outside, the incredibly hot, humid climate inside, the beer spill, getting kicked really hard in the knee by some fucker. I loved every minute of it. Sorry for rambling, Amber ------------------------------ From: Andrea Pinto Subject: Re: 'Songs for Ozzy' EP >Actually, Alice Cooper recorded two of the songs for Ozzy: Stolen Prayer & >Unholy War and subsequently fucked both of them up. Alice doesn't have the >soul it takes to convey the intensity of a Chris Cornell or SG song. The only >redeeming value about the recording is that Chris sings back-up vocals on >Stolen Prayer. If I'm not mistaken, part of the lyrics for one of the CC songs that appear on "The Last Temptation" got changed from the original version on "Stolen Prayer". The Cooper versions sound overprodcuced to me-but you can't deny-any cd that comes packaged with it's own comic is cool! ------------------------------ From: UnknownFan@aol.com Subject: Re: Hype tonight in DC! hi kelly etc-- jamie isn't feeling that great and is superbusy, so she can't go to see hype tonight, but i am planning on going to see the 7:40 feature at the janus (corner of r and connecticut, very near the dupont metro.) if it is sold out, we will eat first and then see the 9:50. email me at unknownfan or call me at 202-328-7833 if you want to meet us tonight. :-) otherwise, have a great turkey day, laura ------------------------------ From: Charles Tutt <"cjtutt@ix.netcom.com"@ix10.ix.netcom.com> Subject: ???????? Ok, I'm a Soundgarden fan and I have seen this pop up more then once now and I want to know: Is this a real e-mail address? What is the significance...I mean, I know about the SOMMS version of b.m.f., but something tells me this is a bigger thing than just someone who made up an email name...so, please tell me what is going on!!! ------------------------------ From: Andrea Pinto Subject: re:I don't expect anyone to know this ... >A couple of years ago I went to see Soundgarden at the Armory in NYC, >and I remember they played one song from pre-BMF. Being relatively new >to the band, I did not recognize the song, of course, and to this day I >don't know which one it was. I think it may have been "I Awake," but I >cannot say for sure. This has gnawed at me from time to time since >then. Does anyone remember? This was the show on the night BEFORE the >OJ chase, the one that was NOT bootlegged. Call me a loser, but to me >this is a bit of unfinished business to which I would like to bring a >sense of closure. Thank you. Loser you are not. The list should help answer all those little gnawing SG questions that no one else cares about but us! Yep-I was at the show & remeber all this talk about OJ the next day & i couldn't participate in the conversation because i was busy watching SG! I was at the first show & YES-it was "I Awake" that they played. Definitley the HOTTEST show i've ever been to. Must've been about100 degrees inside the armory. But they played an awesome set. The audience was subdued-but our brains were baking from the heat. ------------------------------ From: Rebekah Henderson Subject: Soundgarden stuff What's with these books about Soundgarden?! Screaming Life and New Metal Crown. I can't find them in any bookstore where I live. Help! I love this band and I can't find anything about them! Also, what's the deal about Hype!? Can you buy this or rent this? Is it coming to theaters or something? I want that too! I'm making out my Christmas list and what I want, nobody can find. I'll be looking for Noise from the Underground. By the way, this is my first time posting! Rebekah ------------------------------ From: Lynne Low Subject: Re: MTV Europe ban BUTOW!!!!!! At 08:53 PM 11/27/96 +0000, you wrote: > > >Hey Euro-sommsters! Don't expect to see Blow Up The Outside World jockeying >for heavy rotation alongside the Spice Girls and Robbie Williams! > >This, from today's Melody Maker... > >"Soundgarden have had the video to their Blow Up The Outside World single >banned by MTV. The video, directed by Gerry Casale who used to play in Devo, >features scenes of intravenous drug use and, horror of horrors, people >making love. > >>UKDeb > >Hi Deb, That's too bad. The scenes they are talking about in the video pass by so quickly on the screen. There isn't anything that hasn't been seen before especially when you think of some of the European films over the years. I wonder what frightens them? It's a great video. Lynne ------------------------------ From: Karen Lane Subject: RE: Soundgarden stuff I got Screaming Life and Loser from SUbPop's catalog. They have a web site at www.subpop.com. Hope this helps. Afflict the comfortable Comfort the afflicted - ---------- From: Rebekah Henderson[SMTP:rebemat@usit.net] Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 1996 1:52 PM To: somms@MIT.EDU Subject: Soundgarden stuff What's with these books about Soundgarden?! Screaming Life and New Metal Crown. I can't find them in any bookstore where I live. Help! I love this band and I can't find anything about them! Also, what's the deal about Hype!? Can you buy this or rent this? Is it coming to theaters or something? I want that too! I'm making out my Christmas list and what I want, nobody can find. I'll be looking for Noise from the Underground. By the way, this is my first time posting! Rebekah ------------------------------ From: Deborah Baker Subject: Kerrang/Hype! competition Kerrang are hosting a private screening of Hype! at a London cinema on Firday 6th December. AND they are giving away 25 pairs of tickets plus a Sub Pop/Kerrang goodie bag. To be in with a chance, call 0839 401339 and answer the following question: Which seminal Seattle band recorded the songs Not For You and Even Flow? Don't forget to leave your name and address. Competition line closes 3rd December. BTW, they give Hype! a great review, and there's a picture of Susan Silver and a quote from her. UKDeb ------------------------------ From: Deborah Baker Subject: MTV Europe ban BUTOW!!!!!! Hey Euro-sommsters! Don't expect to see Blow Up The Outside World jockeying for heavy rotation alongside the Spice Girls and Robbie Williams! This, from today's Melody Maker... "Soundgarden have had the video to their Blow Up The Outside World single banned by MTV. The video, directed by Gerry Casale who used to play in Devo, features scenes of intravenous drug use and, horror of horrors, people making love. A spokesman for the band said they would not be cutting the scenes that MTV objected to: 'We support the video cos it's as valid now as A Clockwork Orange was then. People who want to ban it are taking certain images out of context. It's like wanting the wedding scene from The Godfather, but not the violence.' " ...For what it's worth, when I rang Headbanger's Ball this morning they were as stunned and sorrowful as I was. They told me that they really fought to stop the ban and they *will* be playing it on the Ball in the next couple of weeks. I'm not one for conspiracy theories, but it seems to me Soundgarden videos get unfairly singled out by MTV every time :-( UKDeb PS I'll post a report on Soundgarden Live n Loud at the weekend when I have had time to watch it a few more times. However I can tell you a) they looked and sounded fine b) it should have been called Short n Sweet - just half an hour including shampoo ads! c) there was absolutely no shagging or shooting up whatsover! ------------------------------ From: Cecilia Filiplic Subject: Slash and SG Hey SOMMSters! I was reading a recent Slash interview on my Guns 'n Roses digest when I came across this: >Of today's bands, which are your favorites? > I love Soundgarden. I think they're brilliant. I got Soundgarden in the >car right now. I like Elastica. I think Nirvana was great. Alice In Chains >is great. I'm actually really good friends with most of those guys, and I >jam with them all the time. Really? Can anyone verify any recent Slash + SG sightings? Just wondering, Cecilia ------------------------------ From: Paul Rosenthal Subject: extra tix for 12/1 show in LA Hey everyone: As of now I have one or two extra tix for universal amp. on 12/1. as it is the holiday weekend, I am out of town till sat. afternoon and unfortunately I do not have access to the list till then. If interested, e-mail me privately and leave phone number and I can talk to you on sat. afternoon before Del Mar show. face value, sec 18. see ya at the shows, paul ------------------------------ From: Nevin Subject: Re: Slash and SG Cecilia Filiplic wrote: > > Really? Can anyone verify any recent Slash + SG sightings? Didn't GNR cover Big Dumb Sex. I think it was on "The Spaghetti Incident". Doesn't answer your question, but just thought I'd post :) - -Nevin ------------------------------ From: endless_nameless@prodigy.com (GRRL NIKI FREER) Subject: Re: MTV Europe ban BUTOW!!!!!! UKDeb wrote: >This, from today's Melody Maker... > >"Soundgarden have had the video to their Blow Up The Outside World single >banned by MTV. The video, directed by Gerry Casale who used to play in Devo, >features scenes of intravenous drug use and, horror of horrors, people >making love. this from the same society which made Trainspotting one of their most popular movies ever made... *sigh* people can be so amazingly stupid. sucks for you guys in the UK, i hope you all got it on tape somewhere. mind riot ____ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ i'm tied within i'm luck's last match struck in the pouring down wind... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ From: endless_nameless@prodigy.com (GRRL NIKI FREER) Subject: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MATT! well, since i won't be around tomorrow to say happy 34th to everyone's favorite drummer, i figured i might as well do it now. keep it up matt, we love ya! mind riot ------------------------------ From: Monnica Lewis Subject: Warning: A lot of mushiness and some Soundgarden content too Hi Sommsters! This Thanksgiving, in addition to being thankful for my health, and family and their health, and my job (most days anyway), I just want to say that I am also thankful that I had the opportunity to meet Soundgarden and see them TWICE in concert. I'm also thankful that I have 700 (WOW!) cyberbuddies who can relate to my fanaticism when it comes to SG. Matt have a HAPPY BIRTHDAY! And everyone else (for whom it applies) have a HAP-PY TUR-KEY DAY! Catch up with you on Monday. Monnica ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: I'll take my secrets to the grave... On Fri, 22 Nov 1996 j_crocke@unity.ncsu.edu wrote: > IMHO, the new tool cd towers over anything released this year, and that > includes "down on the upside." It just seems to me that some of > soundgarden's music has lost that edge. While on the other hand, tool has > gone even farther in wrapping anger w/ music.... I was wondering about this very thing the other day, jeremy. does dotu really stand out as one of the best releases of the year? my liking of the record seems to move in cycles, and at the moment I'm kind of apathetic about the album as a whole. it certainly doesn't stand up to the power of aenima. so sommsters, is dotu the best album of 1996? are there many albums that rank above it, or does it rate better than most? ----------------------------------- song of the day - the aeroplane flies high by the smashing pumpkins recorded (btw) in australia ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: gwm@starnetinc.com Subject: 34 spankings! I couldn't resist but give another shout out to Matt saying happy B-day. You are totally appreciated and loved by this whole list. Thank you for making great music! Dave Miller ********************************************* *I like to trade bootlegs. * *Check out my Pearl Jam homepage at: * *http://pwp.starnetinc.com/gwm/pearl.htm * *You can find my bootlist there * *PEARL JAM AND SOUNDGARDEN RULE! * ********************************************* ------------------------------ From: "Eric Stenroos" Subject: Sacramento Show (Dec. 4th) Does anyone out there know who the opening band will be next week in Sacramento? I'm really excited to get to see Soundgarden but it's been sold out for a while now so I'm not hearing any promo stuff on the radio anymore. New but True Fan, Staci ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: he lives these years that I walk blind... On Mon, 25 Nov 1996, Jack Parsons wrote: > Everyone's favorite closer came next Slaves and Bulldozers. Towards the end > Chris left stage and came back with a lighted cigarette. He took a puff and > stuck it in Kim's mouth. Kim smoked it for a minute, and at the end flicked it > into the air and played "baseball" with the cigarette and his fret board. It > almost hit Chris. Then the band left... does anyone else find this odd, considering the motivation behind the lyrics to hiv baby (ie. kim)? ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide - words by kim thayil ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Aleko Subject: Re: DOTU best album of 96? I have to say that Aenima is way better then DOTU and infact way better then most albums. Dotu is still pretty good. I didn't buy that many albums this year, Dotu is better then Load, and it's too early to say whether it's better then Roots (i just got Roots by Sepultura), which is an excellent album. Even if DOTU isn't the best of the year it still was good enough to satisfy my Soundgarden cravings until the next concert/album. IE I would be happy if Soundgarden released an album this good every 1.5/2 years. Lets hope they do that for another 10 years at least. "Rock n' roll doesn't have a soul, just a dick and a wallet" --- Kim Thayil ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: I hear the click clack of your feet on the stairs... On Mon, 25 Nov 1996, DeeDee Bradshaw-Autry wrote: > i honestly do not expect SG to have many more albums...which is not to say > that they cant do it, but that i really believe that the future of SG is > limited...theyve had a number of great releases...they have gone on to their > own production...in a way i almost see DOTU as the pennicle of their > career...not too mention the fact that touring has got to be wearing thin on this straight from one of the horses' mouths: Cameron: "Well, I just like making music with this band. It's still full of surprises. I think this record is a good example of that. So I just see us doing more records, and probably a little less touring, because that's the thing that can chew up a band more than anything. We're a really good studio band, so I hope we can taper off the touring end of it in the next couple of years, and maybe try to do a couple more records, and see how much more we have in us. Right now, though, the well is definitely full. Everyone has more tunes, and I'm anxious to get us back in the studio fairly soon." (drum! septemberish 1996) cool note for the day - if you listen to tighter & tighter a little more closely next time, in the left channel you will hear chris (I'm fairly sure it is chris, 'cause kim is definitely in the right channel) make a small mistake on his guitar. it comes at 1:57, just as chris is singing "from a..."; a pretty tiny glitch where he seems to miss the strum by a fraction, and the timing is out by a only barely-noticable margin. but he shrugs it off, making up for it rather nicely at 2:12 with a way cool squelch right after the line "...before I'm dead". good to see that they are confident enough to leave this sort of stuff on there, methinks, and not go back and edit or redo takes. ------------------------------ From: tonerkin Subject: Re: he lives these years that I walk blind... At 11:23 AM 11/28/96 +1000, you wrote: >On Mon, 25 Nov 1996, Jack Parsons wrote: > >> Everyone's favorite closer came next Slaves and Bulldozers. Towards the end >> Chris left stage and came back with a lighted cigarette. He took a puff and >> stuck it in Kim's mouth. Kim smoked it for a minute, and at the end flicked it >> into the air and played "baseball" with the cigarette and his fret board. It >> almost hit Chris. Then the band left... > > does anyone else find this odd, considering the motivation behind > the lyrics to hiv baby (ie. kim)? I find it odd that Kim would smoke a cigarette that Chris had in his mouth because Chris has been sick. Especially after he made at least three of our Chicago sommsters sick!!! I know lots of people that will not eat, smoke and/or drink after anyone during "our" flu season!!!! toni ------------------------------ From: DeeDee Bradshaw-Autry Subject: Re: I'll take my secrets to the grave... <> includes "down on the upside." It just seems to me that some of >> soundgarden's music has lost that edge. While on the other hand, tool has >> gone even farther in wrapping anger w/ music....>> i agree with jeremy on this one...tho that could be attributed to my current obsession with tool...but honestly i feel that aenima is the best album of the year...its hard, raw, intense, angry, sexual, erotic, and mesmerizing...i cant get it out of my head...however, im not sure it is fair to compare it to DOTU because SG and Tool are not at the same point in their careers...if we are to complare the two bands i think we should compare aenima to bmf...in which case, id be hard pressed to chose the better of the two albums because bmf has the same effect on me... <> best album of 1996...aenima...DOTU doesnt come close...in fact Mazzy Star's latest had gotten more play from me than DOTU... DeeDee..."I've been wallowing in my own chaotic, insecure delusions" TOOL ***Jeremy*** 7 days!!!! ******************************************************************************** Dee Dee Bradshaw-Autry "Beliefs are dangerous. Beliefs allow the mind to stop functioning. A non-functioning mind is clinically dead. Believe in nothing..." TOOL "This is what it looks like, this is what is feels like, this is what it tastes like...this is what you've done to me..." Stabbing Westward "Be careful with me...I am fragile. Im a bitch babe...and Im on fire" Garbage http://www.infochase.com/ent/deedee/index.html ******************************************************************************** ------------------------------ From: Joe Cennamo Subject: Re: Slash and SG On Wed, 27 Nov 1996, Nevin wrote: > Cecilia Filiplic wrote: > > > > > Really? Can anyone verify any recent Slash + SG sightings? > > Didn't GNR cover Big Dumb Sex. I think it was on "The Spaghetti > Incident". Doesn't answer your question, but just thought I'd post :) > > -Nevin kind of, towards the end of a song by T Rex they sing the chorus, I'm going to fuck fuck fuck you. joec ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 2 Issue 318] ****************************************