From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Friday, 22 Nov 1996 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 02:56:05 EST Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Friday, 22 Nov 1996 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu ***listadmin note: Yeah, this one is a day late -- I decided to attempt a 25-page paper the night before it was due, and had zero time to compile the digest. -seth Today's Topics: Re: Chris solo Re: give up to greed, you don't have to feed me... DC show Re: GRUNGE??!?!?!!?! Re: SOMMS effort to retrieve Ms. Rose... wallowing in my own chaotic insecure delusions... My First Soundgarden Concert! Let's have some peace here.. Interesting insights Re: I miss Caryn... DC Show - GOD I LOVE THIS BAND!!!! D.C. show Re: Soundgarden's future?? Re: Chris solo Details article Re: DC Show - GOD I LOVE THIS BAND!!!! Washington show DMSF Update Re: Seattle TIX You want em I got em ATN correction Does Chris believe in God? Chris interview Re: Ben at the Canada show Re: DC show Matt seasons FYI Blow up my brain somms PI the electric factory Re: Ben at the Canada show The Fire Marshall and Soundgarden Tickets... Bootlegs my never ending quest for a boston show :> soundgarden play washington! my atlanta Re: Watch Visual Images of Soundgarden Interview My super-poopy analysis of BHS Fell On Bad Vocal Chords......... Now they're announced as headliners ------------------------------------------------------------ From: Lauren Simonis Subject: Re: Chris solo I did read an interview with Chris in Rolling Stone a couple of years ago. I believe David Letterman was on the cover. The interview was a solo interview, though. I'm not sure about any others for sure. On Wed, 20 Nov 1996, stella wrote: > I just picked up the Details (yeah I know, kinda late) and on the > cover it says "First solo interview". Is that true? I could have > sworn Rolling Stone did a solo interview. It was in one of their Year > in Review or whatevers. I don't know what issue it was but its the only > magazine I have besides Spin and Details. Anyways, point being, this > Details interview couldn't be the "first solo interview". > > > stella > ------------------------------ From: Deborah Baker Subject: Re: give up to greed, you don't have to feed me... In Wednesday's digest, blind dog wrote: > I read in the most recent issue of _drum_ magazine that matt hopes to move >the band away from the live circuit in future years, in order to >concentrate more on recording albums. he adds that the band may only have >another two or three records left in them (this despite the massive >amounts of music all four members *must* be sitting on, considering >home-recording, 4-tracks and that they all write music as a hobby). > this puts a lot of doubt in my mind. a band who I once thought >would be close to immortal seems to be considering life on the other side. I wouldn't be surprised if Soundgarden did cut down on touring. They have never been fond of it. And Chris seems so susceptible to voice problems these days, he may prefer to conserve it for recording. It would bum me out if I never got to see them again, but if it's a choice between more great records or more live shows, I would go for the former. As to only having another two or three albums left in them, who knows. God, I hope not! He did say *may* didn't he? But Kim has already said that being in a band isn't the be all and end all and that one day he may go back to college and take a physics degree. Matt has played with a lot of different musicians - and types of music - Seattle Symphony Orchestra, Tone Dogs, Violet Ray etc and has said when he is older he imagines himself in a jazz band. Of course, Chris could quite easily have a successful solo career if he wanted (even though I can't imagine anything could be as great as Soundgarden.) The man lives for music. Hey, maybe that's why he was trying on designer leather stage gear (as reported in Details)- maybe that joke he once made about starting a Vegas career *wasn't* a joke!!!!! Ben will probably end up in jail! :-) Soundgarden mean the world to me and I would be devastated if they split any time in the near future. But every good thing must come to an end eventually. Maybe Matt is letting us down gently by giving us plenty of warning. Just a thought. UKDeb ------------------------------ From: kjm@mtool.com (Karen Monoker) Subject: DC show Well again, Soundgarden rocked the Patriot Center last night. I missed Tenderloin and Rocket wasn't bad but I have seen them before and they were much better a few years ago. Chris Cornell was awesome! You could tell his voice was bothering him, but he still sang great. He sang lower than usual and didn't hit all the high notes in some songs, but he still did his great scream and no matter what the man does he rocks! And for Shroom, yes he was absolutely the hottest thing I have ever seen in my entire life. I couldn't take me eyes off of him. I was on the floor in the center and had a pretty good view but anyone else who was there last night.... did Ben do anything out of control? If he did I didn't see it, basically he just played pretty normal and calm. I was very surprised that the show didn't sell out and the crowd there wasn't exactly what I expected. Also I didn't really love any of the shirts there, so I didn't get one. I will probably kick myself later but.... Set list was the same as Chicago I think.... they played Drawing Flies, woo hoo!! Also their version of Helter Skelter rocks!! I wish they played older stuff too, but I don't think we will ever see that. What else can I say, it was a great show and I am glad I went. I even took my friend who had never listened to SG before he met me and he loved it. He was surprised at how pissed off Chris was, well I don't think Chris was really pissed off, just that my friend pictured him to be this recluse and was surprised when Chris was going off about Rolling Stone etc... I know it was mentioned weeks ago, but I think I missed it - why is Chris so pissed off about Rolling Stone? Granted their magazine has been pretty lame, but did something happen? I feel complete for now. Sorry I missed all the sommsters but I didn't even get into the show until around 8:30-9:00, we were tailgating in the parking lot, fun fun fun. Later all, Karen ------------------------------ From: "stimpy1" Subject: Re: GRUNGE??!?!?!!?! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - --- This Mail Was Send By Stimpy1 Email:stimpy1@netvision.net.il - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - --- - ---------- > From: stella > To: somms@MIT.EDU > Subject: GRUNGE??!?!?!!?! > Date: Wednesday, November 20, 1996 3:05 PM > > Ok this is pissing me off just a little bit. I usually stay quiet > about these things but I can't take any more of the G word. Michael > Apple, since you are in a "grunge band" (notice quotations meaning > I'm quoting you. That's what they're for!)I guess you hail from > Seattle and wear lots of flannel, since that is basically what "grunge" > is all about. We've talked about it on the list before. None of us > (except you apparently) consider Soundgarden a "grunge" band. The > "grunge" scene isn't about music, its about what those media schmucks > consider trendy for a season. I guess you got the habit from reading > your "320 periodicals". > > All responses to this letter will be read first THEN erased :) > Have a nice day! > > stella hi i think that your right soundgarden isn`t really a grunge band Pearl jam is a grunge band hootie and the blowfich is a gunge band skunk anansie is a grunge band and many many others but soundgarden isn`t a grunge band!!!! got it??? ok take care now byebye then!!!! ------------------------------ From: Mercyhurst Prep Library Subject: Re: SOMMS effort to retrieve Ms. Rose... At 09:35 AM 11/20/96 -0800, you wrote: >This may sound crazy, being that I argued with Caryn (I also agreed >often, though!!), but if anyone is interested in trying to make an >effort to retrieve Caryn back to the list, please let me know so we can >toss over some ideas... It's not good to lose a valuable SOMMS >contibutor due to some conflicts in opinions - at least we can make >amends... >Let me know... Later, Taylor > It is to bad Caryn left the list, but maybe she did it b/c she realized she overstepped the bounds of good taste or something. I don't muiss her nasty replies to simple things, or to the questions from newbies. I don't miss the negative quality and I know a few people have told me they no longer feel they're walking on eggshells when they post! Personally, her last few posts implying no one else could possibly know as much as she does were unwarranted and her attacks on KAthie, whom I feel handled the whole Chicago show thing well, were vicious and it showed no signs of letting up or of being resolved. Begging her to come back may just feed that ego of "I know so much more" and once again we'd be open for attacks b/c we dared voice a different opinion than she shared. That's all just mho, so maybe we as a list need to discuss JUST A BIT--let's not make an issue of it--if Caryn's biting comments added to what's supposed to be a feel-good, open forum of exchange. BTW, yes, I'm back from an exhaustive and exhausting 2 1/2 day eval of another school...and in the process I learned how to use a laptop and ClarisWorks! Just call me a techie.....later....deb ------------------------------ From: overfloater@thenexus.com Subject: wallowing in my own chaotic insecure delusions... this isn't going to be a very informative post, but if yer bored, well then read on :> anyway, last night i had a pretty cool dream... it was like, shroom and i were going to lollapalooza to see soundgarden (only i think it was lolla '98 or something) and then afterwards we were going to roseland to see soundgarden cause i had tickets... it was just weird.. and i was happy cause i got to see soundgarden after all.. and then i woke up, and it's just like "ugh!" :> and shroom, i dunno if you got a new top for your car yet, but in my dream you had one :> also, have any US sommsters seen the blow up the outside world single yet? cause i have yet to see it, and the store i go to to look for it is pretty good about singles and stuff... and WTF is going on with DOTU merchandise? i can remember when superunknown came out, there was superunknown stuff EVERYWHERE.. like twelve million shirts and stickers and posters and things :> now, there's like 3 shirts, NO posters or anything else.. unless i haven't been seeing anything :> what happened with frank kozik designing a ton of merchandise? is that still gonna happen? ah, one last thing, is anyone else getting a TON of mail concerning the "beware of scams from the fan club" blah blah stuff? cause i am. i'm getting the SAME message OVER and OVER and OVER, and i'm not even getting it HERE on the nexus (damned good thing too), but i'm getting it on cowland, and i haven't subscribed to the list from cowland in MONTHS... shrug... vote for earl! overfloater ------------------------------ From: Lynne Low Subject: My First Soundgarden Concert! Hi Everyone! I'm new to the list. I will be seeing Soundgarden in LA on Dec 2nd thanks to Chris (aka SGardnGrl). It's my first time. I feel like a little kid again. I haven't been this excited about a concert ever. Never in my wildest dreams - 7th row, center stage! This is a dream come true. I promise to share the experience with all of you. Has anyone seen the latest Might magazine (#13) - each month there is a column called Gaywatch '96. "All about famous people who are gay but don't know it yet." Well they had Chris Cornell on the list! I quote, "It's hard to know if you're gay or not when you live in Seattle. It's so gray all the time, and it seems like everybody drinks mocha. But Chris has the band, he's rich, he'll be fine. Chris Cornell = GAY!" There's a tiny photo of Chris looking as good as ever. I thought you'd be interested since there has been talk about liking the band if he was. Personally the music is all that matters to me. I'm still waiting to see the latest video. I've been searching "120 Minutes" but not luck yet. At least I've got my copy of Details magazine to soothe me for the time being. The man has the most incredible eyes. I loved hearing about the Chicago experiences - I felt as it I was there with you. I am glad to have found this list - most of my friends don't understand my love for Soundgarden. I hate trying to explain myself all the time. It's nice to find others like me. I hope I get to meet some of you at the LA concert. Bye for now, Lynne Lynne Lowe ------------------------------ From: atnadzri@vax1.tristate.edu Subject: Let's have some peace here.. Hi all Oh my..seems there's a storm in here once again...c'mon guys cool it...No more Mike apple,no more public flames...let's look forward for the upcoming reviews of upcoming shows. Here's to chris..for surviving a bad throat.... Cheerss.... Andri ------------------------------ From: "Jen Kern" Subject: Interesting insights Hey everyone!!!! I personally think that we ALL need to put in our favorite SG songs and rock out!!!! Let's think happy thoughts!!! I luv those!! Ok--I'm delirious--SG will be in their hometown in, let's count them, 19 days!! They already have 900 people on their guest list--it's going to be a wild time!! I'm so HAPPY to hear that they have resumed their tour and Chris is doing ok. (Our prayers were answered--there is a GOD!) As far as the current thread goes--I have to agree with what everyone else has said so far , if Chris, or any member of SG were gay--then so be it. Though, I find them all sexy as hell (BEN being my personal fav), I love them for their music, not their penises. If I could spend one day, hour, whatever with the band or any member of the band I would want nothing more than conversation. I find them all to be so witty, intelligent, humorous, etc.....a conversation with them would be better than.......just about anything I think of. I can't remember who wrote the post about Matt (sorry) but I agree. Matt is phenomenal--no if's, and 's or but's about it. Listening to him, sends chills (I AM COMPETELY SERIOUS HERE) down my spine and gives me goosebumps. I am just in complete awe of his incredible talent. Here's a great idea--they should install a camera behind and above Matt at concerts and play it on a screen so we can watch all his superb moves.....I know it's kind of a cooky idea...but still...it's probably the only way many of us would ever be able to really check Matt out. Well, I've done enough rambling for the day--and I just want to add that all of you SOMMSTERS are *awesome*!!! (I hate that word, but sometimes it fits so perfectly) I luv you all!!! I hope none of you ever change! As Mr. Cornell so finely put it...we are the true fans, the ones who know how to truly appreciate their mind blowing talent. I have faith that SG will be with us for a long, long time!! JEN ***Hey, any of you think BEN would be interested in giving me some bass lessons??? I mean if your going to learn, might as well learn from the BEST!! OKay, I'm dreaming, but sometimes dreams come true!*** ------------------------------ From: BdMtrFngr Subject: Re: I miss Caryn... Who the hell is gonna publish a Kim Thayil biography? I mean, i like Kim a lot and have posters all over my guitar area of him, but cmon, he aint famous. That pompous ass is gonna go to a publisher tell them about the book, and the guy is gonna , reply"Who the fuck is Kim Thayil, Next!". Who wants to plan a trip to plattsburg to hunt down michael apple. Lets see if his high intelligence can stop a gunshot to the head. Yeah , forget about it. ------------------------------ Subject: DC Show - GOD I LOVE THIS BAND!!!! From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) Okay here we go..... First: Why does Chris hate Rolling Stone. Man he really gave us the finer points on what we should do with it. Does anyone have any ideas why our man is pissed at them??? Second: Never, never, never throw a golf ball at the band. I though for a few seconds they were going to leave the stage.. I'm not 100% sure but the object in question either hit or nearly hit our Sweet Matt. I do know that the song they did next the drummer for Tenderloin played. Which was funny because he kept getting faster and faster as the song progressed. I think he got ahead of the rest of the band a few times. But back to the golf ball. This was the only time Ben said anything to the crowd. And Chris ask if we had come to see a band - "yes".. Do we come to throw things - "no". Tell you the whole band was just slightly pissed at this.. So people be cool and if you are at a show and the dork beside you goes to throw something.. Do what Mr. Cornell suggest - smash him in the face.. Whoa violent aren't we... It's okay Toni SOMMs Mom has cool down just a little.... Third: Ben!!! Ben never moved.. He didn't spit.... He didn't flip the bird... He stood and played.. NOT OUR BEN!! Please Ben what ever was wrong come back to us.. I missed his antics. It took something from the energy of the show.. Sound: The sound at this show was very good. You could really hear all the parts and each and every word that Chris gave you. As I said his voice was in good shape.. He kept it low and didn't hit allot of high ones. He could hold them. I also figured they did a bit more instrumental then usual - this I take to give Chris a few seconds of down time. They did do Kickstand which I don't remember them doing in Chicago.. View: Great seats could see the guys so well. Even Matt. The view was much better than Chicago... Performances: Over all the energy level wasn't there as it was Sunday night in Chicago. There seem to be a bit of a hold back. The crowd at the Center was young and I don't think they saw it. When I say young I mean young.... We saw 9 and 10 year olds.. I would never take a child this young to rock concert - just for the reason of their hearing. And you know a 9 year is not going to know or understand all the doing at a concert of this type. But I did see allot of people who were BHS people they would come alive for Superunknown songs.. Trendy - ::shutter:: SOMMsters: The SOMMs members I met that night was as all the members I have met so far. Great.. We had a nice time at Fuddruckers.. I'm sorry I had my silly camera with me and forgot to take pictures.. For the members we miss I'm so sorry.. Maybe we can get together some weekend... I would still love to meet you all... How about a SOMMs pizza party at SOMMs Mom places... :-) Jamie (Village Idiot/SOMMs Mom) ------------------------------ From: "mcinturff, dylan" Subject: D.C. show I'm really tired right now because I drove home (300 miles) after the show last night. I'll try to write a whole show review tomorrow when I wake up. A couple of quick things, though: someone tried to hit Ben with a golf ball. His response: "Do you guys golf?" . " Well, keep your fuckin' balls to yourself!" Also, it was great meeting Jamie and everybody before the show. I felt like I was at a show right at home because I was among friends rather than strangers. Thank you all. Dylan McInturff ------------------------------ From: mshaw@lib.occ.cccd.edu (RoseeMisst) Subject: Re: Soundgarden's future?? >the other day i was discussing the history of music with my friends. >we were talking about the obvious fact that the style of music always >tends to change with each new decade. it is also very rare for a band >in one decade to be successful in the next decade. then i got to >thinking: will soundgarden be one of those bands who transcends the >decades and entertains the next generation as it did ours, or is there >future numbered in years??? it doesn't appear that they are ready to >break up anytime soon, and there music, in my opinion continues to get >better. but how long do you think they will be able to continue as we >are quickly approachin a new decade and a new style of mainstream music? >I am curious to here some opinions. >Anthony >PS. Get better, Chris!!! The Oakland show isn't too far away. It is the view of some rock fans that some bands go with the trends of whatever musical style is in vogue. Take Metallica, for instance. They sound different now than their previous albums, but they said that it had nothing to do with the new wave of "alternative" bands. The members of Metallica also have shorter hair, which was their prerogative to do anyway. Yes, its a coincidence that the hair-cutting started when heavy metal started to "die". Remember when Cornell finally cut his hair? Another band who seemed to have changed was Led Zeppelin. Did you ever hear the last album? It sounded totally different from their first and second albums. Soundgarden's albums each have a different vibe, but I feel that some of their songs don't seem dated(yet.) They have a unique sound and hardly sound like any of the modern "alternative" or hard rock bands. For this reason, I think that Soundgarden will stay around a long time, as long as the band doesn't break up. It seems that a lot of copycat bands don't even get past their first album because they're making the same kinds of riffs or wearing that "new wave" rock star style. RoseeMisst ------------------------------ From: mshaw@lib.occ.cccd.edu (RoseeMisst) Subject: Re: Chris solo >I did read an interview with Chris in Rolling Stone a couple of years >ago. I believe David Letterman was on the cover. The interview was a solo >interview, though. I'm not sure about any others for sure. > >On Wed, 20 Nov 1996, stella wrote: > >> I just picked up the Details (yeah I know, kinda late) and on the >> cover it says "First solo interview". Is that true? I could have >> sworn Rolling Stone did a solo interview. It was in one of their Year >> in Review or whatevers. I don't know what issue it was but its the only >> magazine I have besides Spin and Details. Anyways, point being, this >> Details interview couldn't be the "first solo interview". >> >> >> stella >> I recenty picked up one of my old copies of Rolling Stone with Soundgarden on the cover, which is a great shot. To those interested, look up the issue for June 1994. Sorry, I don't have the RS number or the exact date in June(the magazine comes bimonthly), but I hope it's easy to find. What I especially took interest in were pictures of Chris and Kim without facial hair. Kim looks totally different without facial hair. There is also a picture of the original Soundgarden, with Hiro. For us SOMMS girls, the beginning of the article starts off with 2 B&W pictures of Chris, and the second picture has Chris's face on it, which takes up the whole page. I've seen this pic in numerous places, and I think some of you may have also seen it already, but the picture is big enough to put on a wall. ------------------------------ From: "Jamie C." Subject: Details article Man, I thought I was hated on this list..... Anyways, I have to voice my opinion on this: That interview with CC in Details to me, was not very good. I didn't really enjoy it. Then again, it wasn't even close to being as bad as the Rolling Stone Eddie Vedder article (The I-Got-Shitters are fuming!). - -- +jamie c.+ ************************************ "A go-go kids, a go-go style... A suck suck kiss, a suck suck smile" -Billy Corgan ("Where Boys Fear To Tread") ************************************ "Galvanized the oversight by pissing on your whole philosophy..." -Moist ("Shotgun") ************************************ ------------------------------ From: gwm@starnetinc.com Subject: Re: DC Show - GOD I LOVE THIS BAND!!!! >First: Why does Chris hate Rolling Stone. Man he really gave us the finer >points on what we should do with it. Does anyone have any ideas why our >man is pissed at them??? Because they published an unauthorized article about Eddie Vedder, totally bashing him, and they've been bashing Seattle for like the past year. Dave Miller ********************************************* *I like to trade bootlegs. * *Check out my Pearl Jam homepage at: * *http://pwp.starnetinc.com/gwm/pearl.htm * *You can find my bootlist there * *PEARL JAM AND SOUNDGARDEN RULE! * ********************************************* ------------------------------ From: "Mark" Subject: Washington show Jamie - Details, we want details. Those of us who couldn't go to any of the shows experience them through you lucky, lucky people who did get to go. I, (for one), would love to hear about the whole experience in gory detail. Another SOMMS Mom, Cathey I don't remember half the time If I'm hiding or I'm lost.....but I'm on my way ------------------------------ From: Gene Candelaria Subject: DMSF Update Hey everyone! Thanks to lots of fluids, rest and our good thoughts, CC and Co. are once again ready for the road. Here's an updated list of people planning on meeting up at the Nov 30 Del Mar show. Gene Candelaria Jamie Case (not on the list, Digs SG) Dena Wilson Mark Miller Christy Lopez w/Terri Tim Ernie Leslie Glenn Ryan Moore (Maybe) Paul Rosenthal w/Paul's Girlfriend Haley There must be more who want to joing the SOMMS Tribe on Nov 30!! Let me know... - -- ----- \___/ ----- ; > Gene Candelaria . . . . o o o o o _______ * _____ o |Del Mar| * ____==== ]OO|_n_n__][. |SOMMS| * [________]_|__|________)< | FEST| 8 days!! oo oo 'oo OOOO-| oo\\_ ~~~|~~~ +--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+ _____________________ ------------------------------ From: KAISERVRBL@aol.com Subject: Re: Seattle TIX You want em I got em Come on guys, I've still got a pair of GA tix to the "LAST" show of SG's American 1996 Tour in Seattle. I would really like to sell them (for face value of course) to a fellow SOMMster than trying to dump them on the street in Seattle the day of the show! So, if you're going to be in Seattle December 11, let me know & I'll set you up with tix!!! Lance "In words I'll never find" ------------------------------ From: saperl@MIT.EDU Subject: ATN correction From today's ATN... Hey! We're Not Perfect The group cares about their fans. Photo by Jay Blakesberg. In the story we ran on Tuesday about the gathering of the online Soundgarden fan club, the Sommsters, at a recent show in Chicago, we inadvertently said that the event was organized by MIT's Seth Perlman, the webmaster of the unofficial Soundgarden site. In fact it was the work of a Soundgarden fan, Kathie Opon, who tells us she "got the ball rolling" by "writing a letter to Silver Management..." (Silver Management manages Soundgarden.) Cool. ------------------------------ From: KAISERVRBL@aol.com Subject: Does Chris believe in God? Hey here's some random (rambling???) thoughts: Religion and religous metaphors play a big part in a number of SG songs (as well as Chris & Matt's TOTD stuff) partiularly on BMF. Like Holy Water, Jesus Christ Pose, Outshined (the power child??), Rusty Cage (God's headlights), Searching with my good eye closed (tie the linen on), Fresh Tendrils, Blind Dogs, Wooden Jesus, Your Savior (Yes I know the last couple are TOTD) just to name a few. And almost always, the references are angry or at the very least negative. Now I know Chris says his lyrics are just lyrics (which I personally think is a way of dodging having to explain the meaning of everything he writes to every bonehead who interviews him but that's a well worn thread and I won't go there), but does he use the references to express his belief or disbelief in God or is it simply for a metaphor for incredible song writing? Just a thought. Lance "In words I'll never find" ------------------------------ From: litlwing@postoffice.ptd.net (Wendy) Subject: Chris interview Hi guys~ The radio station, WDRE-103.9 here in Philly just aired an interview with Chris. They had Marilyn Russell interview him and apparently, she got the only interview with Chris for anyone in the Philly area. So, here it is in it's entirety, which wasnt very much. But, its still a pretty good interview. Pay attention, Philly Sommsters, Chris compliments our town!! Here ya go, guys: **************************************************************************** *************************** Q: When you guys did Lollapallooza, did you come and hang out in Philadelphia for a little while? CC: Yeah, we did. We were here for a couple of days Q: Do you like Philadelphia? CC: Yeah, we had a really good time there. Its a good place for us to play. Most of the time when we played here we didnt really think of Philadelphia as a town cause we just come in and like we'd get here at 6 in the morning and wake up and play a show and then we're gone. So, that was the only time we came here for no real reason 'cause we had a couple days off and this was the only real city anywhere near that we felt like we wanted to be. So, we came here and hung out for a couple of days and it was great. Q: It wasnt the vibe of the cheese steaks or anything in particular like that? CC: I dont eat that kind of food, so that had nothing to do with it. We had a really good time with that penetentiary, though. We went in there and wandered around for a while, it was wild. Q: Were you always sort of the loner when you were younger or is it sort if that rock star thing? CC:Umm....its neither. I think I developed that when I was a teenager. I wasnt always like that when I was a little kid, its kind of hard to be a loner when you have a big family. Somewhere in my teen years I started to be that way, it had nothing to do with rock stardom. In a way, I think it would be easier to go out and be social because you figure if you go to the right places everyone's already going to like you. But, just kinda makes it a good excuse to be reclusive. Q: Does that lend new meaning to 'Blow Up The Outside World'? Do you feel sometimes that you would like to get rid of everybody and be in a canoe going down a river maybe with your wife? CC: Sure That sounds good. Q: Do you like the studio environment, do you like producing? CC:Umm..yeah. I think Im more comfortable there than anywhere else as far as doing what we do. I think its the most natural, there's no schedule. You kind of go in and have fun and record and make things up. Touring's not really like that, you know, a show has to go on at a particular time or all these people start charging you a lot more money and fans start to get really pissed off. So, the rest of its kind of do whatever you want while you're up there, but, you have to leave at a certain time and be somewhere at a certain time. As much as it seems like its not a job, there are things about it that are like having a job. Being in the studio, except for the fact that it costs you money, being in the studio is pretty much the ultimate freedom and I just kind of do whatever I want to do whenever I feel like it. **************************************************************************** *************************** That's it. May I add that before they aired the pre-taped interview, Marilyn Russell described Chris to another dj as "a really nice guy. Really quiet, didnt have much to say. Pretty much a loner, laid back, kind of doin' his own thing". Chris seemed in good spirits, he laughed a lot and was very nice to the interviewer. Wend y (lemonjello) ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Ben at the Canada show From: Ben Timberlake >I was at the Soudgarden show in Toronto, Canada, and it was amazing! I was >up at the front, and all of a sudden, Chris came down and was bodysurfing >piss-drunk. He was right on top of me. When he got out of the pit, he >started to hug me really tight, for about ten seconds. I thought that was >really awesome. Anyway, in the middle of the concert, Ben smashes his >guitar into little pieces, probably because the spotlight was on Chris and >not on him. It made him look insanely jealous. I just thought that was >really childish of Ben to smash up his bass. > Michelle I could be off here, but Ben wouldn't smash his guitar for that reason. I think you've mistakenly attributed that jealousy motive. I would hazard that Ben _likes_ not having the spotlight on him and probably requests that it doesn't rest on him. Look at interviews with the guy. In fact, from RS June '94, he asks the interviewer to just leave his part out and says, "That'd be cool." My guess is that Ben smashed the bass because he gets really energetic on stage and likes to destroy things. In fact, this distruction can be viewed as a creation. That is, a way of creatively expressing himself. I wouldn't say it's art because too many people try to limit what art means, but Ben, in his own way, creates with his on-stage performance. Easily the most fun band member to watch. While Chris does do a lot of stage performance, his seems less natural to me than Ben's. More like he's trying to hard. Ben appears to go with whatever he feels. Kinda like that goofy dancer guy with Rocket From the Crypt. -- Ben-jammin' Ben Timberlake Why does important news always Northwestern University come when I'm half asleep? Medill School of Journalism CUBS # 1479, 1109 ***btimlake@nwu.edu*** -30- http://pubweb.acns.nwu.edu/~bft718 "So remember when you're feeling very small and insecure how amazingly unlikely is your birth. And pray that there's intelligent life somewhere up in space, 'cause there's bugger-all down here on Earth." -- Eric Idle, "The Galaxy Song" ------------------------------ From: Greg Bensimon Subject: Re: DC show At 11:06 AM 11/21/96 GMT, kjm@mtool.com wrote: >there last night.... did Ben do anything out of control? If he did I didn't >see it, basically he just played pretty normal and calm. No, Ben was definitely in stoic mode last night. I was down front, standing right in front of him for the first half of the show. Right before Helter Skelter, things got kind of quiet so I started yelling at him. I got his attention and he stared straight at me, so I yelled for him to loosen up and have some fun up there. He just scowled at me and stormed off across the stage. I was thinking to myself, "Oh shit, now I'm in trouble." But nothing ever happened. He just came back and kept on being Ben the Stoic. Oh well. Outside of no Ben antics, the show was amazing. I was most impressed by Matt Cameron. I know it's been said before, but he just blows my mind. He's so precise... No wasted motion at all. Once I get my head together again (it's been a long week), I'll try to put the set list together. Heck, maybe someone else remembers... Definitely worth the price of admission. Greg ------------------------------ From: Luck's Last Match Subject: Matt UM, yeah, i definitely cannot see how the band could ever be nearly the same without Matt. Tealy is right, Matt is overlooked far too much. Now some bands can switch drummers and no one could tell (i.e. Smashing Pumpkins), but not Soundgarden. Hell, they would have a hard time just finding someone who could play matt's stuff. I'm no expert on drumming, nor do i know a lot about it, but i do know that when i was at lolla if i started to look at matt going off on his kit, i didn't look away until either A)the song was over or B)some ignorant crowdsurfer kicked me in the head. (Sorry to say B happened exponentially more than A). Old well. I will see matt again come sairdy! It must have been amazing to get to watch him from the wing! Ok, i'll shut up now. -j "the rain makes the just, the unjust wet, i'll never understand" -Sweet Nectar ------------------------------ From: spierce@mpls.k12.mn.us (Sandy Pierce) Subject: seasons do any guitarists out there know what to do so your strings don't break when you tune your guitar to play seasons? i love the song and love playing it, but my strings go "POP" about a day after i tune my guitar up for that song. is there some special kind of strings to use? my guitar is currently not in playing condition because of this song, but when i get a new one i want to take precausions. i showed my film i made in class today. everyone thought it was nuts. basically the plot was that i was having these strange dreams about chris cornell and they were consuming my life then a bunch of stuff happens (i don't want to write out the whole story) but the end is me skateboarding and i hit something and fly off and the thing i hit was the motorvision video (yes, soundgarden killed me!) but that was a dream, and i woke up o.k. well that wasn't a very good description of my movie but you get the idea. i am excited about the possibility of a spring tour, i might get to see them again!!!! finally!!! but the sad thing is i am going to russia for a month (march 22- april22) and just my luck soundgarden would be here during that time! pray with me guys!! i haven't written forever! this is wierd. i haven't read digests for ever either, it's just so hard to keep up when most of them are un related to the topic (SG) and there's sooooo many posts in a day sometimes. i've finally found someone who appreciates soundgarden like me. he is great. he thinks chris is gorgeuos too... we have things to talk about actually!!! this is cool. share my happiness !!? please everyone, let's appreciate each other for our love of THE band, and not hurt one another. i'm terribly jealous of those of you who met the band. what an awesome experience. i will go now. amanda ------------------------------ From: Adrianne Daniel Wilson Subject: FYI umm some of you may already be aware of this, but for thoes of you who aren't there is a VERY good book out there on Seattle's music sceen history in wich Soundgarden plays a very big part of, it has a good coverage of the band's history etc. including a pic. of the band when Chris was 20 maybe younger or older I don't rember for sure, but you get the idea. Anyway its been out for awhile, and it is simply called "Loser"! So, check it out! Adri ------------------------------ From: MONKEYBOY Subject: Blow up my brain All day long..blow up the outside world..over and over in my head I luv the song and all, but someone fix the cd please!! MNKY ------------------------------ From: Michele Subject: somms PI the electric factory Hi, I just got back from the electric factory in philadelphia I just wanted to say soundgarden kicked ass. Chris took his shirt off almost the whole time it was off. I stared at his nipples almost the whole night. The crowd was pretty calm I even moshed a bit. I can't hear cuz I was right next the speaker near kim. Right now I just want to go to sleep. I am kinda messed up. Michele ------------------------------ From: Ross Filipek Subject: Re: Ben at the Canada show I agree with Ben. When I last saw SG (in '94), Kim smashed up his guitar and one of his speaker cabinets at the end of "Let Me Drown," and that was only the second or third song into their set. I remember being sort of surprised that they started to ruin their instruments so early in the show. I mean, most people who smash guitars wait until the end of the show, right? But I guess when you're that rich you can smash whatever you want whenever you want. But I don't think it was out of jealousy. I don't even think it was for want of attention. I'll go out on a limb and suggest it was just a reaction to the energy of the show, much like moshing (not to bring that up again). That's what I think, at least. Ross - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Thu, 21 Nov 1996, Ben Timberlake wrote: > My guess is that Ben smashed the bass because he gets really energetic on > stage and likes to destroy things. In fact, this distruction can be - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "It would be terrible if the Red Cross BloodMobile got into an accident. No, wait. That would be good because if anyone needed it, the blood would be right there." --Anonymous ------------------------------ From: ThNrthFace@aol.com Subject: The Fire Marshall and Soundgarden Tickets... Howdy folks, The Seattle Fire Marshall, in an attempt to gain some good natured feelings from the Music Industry announced that an additional 500 tickets for each of the Seattle shows can be sold. So, if you don't already have them, tickets for the 10th and 11th will go on sale this Saturday at 10:00am at all NW Ticketmaster locations. The List Thug, KTMS founder, and SOMMS Sheriff, Aaron ------------------------------ From: DAVID DEBOLT Subject: Bootlegs I know that there are a few bootlegs of Soundgarden out there, and was wondering if anybody wants to do some trading. Here what i have: ON CD: (all sound very good or excellent) Pearl Jam: Radio Pollution Pearl Jam: No Fucking Messiah 2 (live w/ Joey Ramone, Neil Young, Fastbacks/Ben Harper, songs from NO Code and RARE songs Only) Nirvana: Pay to Play (demos, Live covers, unreleased and Cobain Eulogy) NOFX: New York City 1994 Sublime: Live 94-96 On TAPE: Rancid Nirvana Foo Fighters Everclear Radiohead Presidents of USA Rage Against the Machine Bush Silverchair I'm looking for Soundgarden and Pearl Jam, NOFX, Everclear, Radiohead, AIC, PUNK - anything that sounds good. Just let me know. thanks dave d (ddebolt@sfsu.edu) ------------------------------ From: overfloater@thenexus.com Subject: my never ending quest for a boston show :> Received: from eve.speakeasy.org [199.238.226.1] by wg.thenexus.com with smtp id BCCJDLBF ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 18:42:00 -0500 Received: from [199.238.226.150] (ppp26.speakeasy.org [199.238.226.150]) by eve.speakeasy.org (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA09999; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 15:41:44 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199611212341.PAA09999@eve.speakeasy.org> To: "overfloater@thenexus.com" Subject: Re: hi back, no bother Date: Thu, 21 Nov 96 15:37:57 -0500 From: Soundgarden X-Mailer: E-Mail Connection v2.5.03 - -- [ From: Soundgarden * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] -- The band is hoping to come back in the Spring, however there are no dates set as of now.....same story just worded a bit differently. KOTS - -------- REPLY, Original message follows -------- Date: Monday, 18-Nov-96 10:27 PM From: overfloater@thenexus.com \ Internet: (overfloater@thenexus.com) To: Soundgarden \ Internet: (sgfc@speakeasy.org) Subject: hi there, and sorry to bother you again... but umm... i'm hearing two different stories, one is that the boston show was canceled, and one that it was postponed and will be made up after january 1st... umm... will the boston date be rescheduled or not? just out of curiosity... get better n stuff, chris, cause being sick sucks :( thanks for reading :> - -------- REPLY, End of original message -------- hey, i wrote to the fanclub asking about rescheduled dates and this is what i got... i think it's pretty neat-0... i just think it's cool how i sent them a message with the topic "hi there, sorry to bother you" and they write back with the topic "hi back, no bother" hehehe :> makes me feel warm and mushy inside, kinda. ------------------------------ From: UnknownFan@aol.com Subject: soundgarden play washington! hey guys--- i am on the digest, so i haven't seen any of the other posts about last night. i had a great time. arrived just as they took the stage with spoonman. stood with my friend jacki at the bottom of the stairs, in front of the rail (thank you mr. security guard!) on ben's side. could see pretty well. unable to meet jamie etc before the show because i had to work late, but did spot sean with his somms shirt on. he said he has been unable to access the list for a month because his modem is down :-( highlights for me: helter skelter--a really moody version. best i have heard. slaves and bulldozers, kickstand. the mosh pit looked reasonable (no crowd surfing during slow songs), but i didn't brave it because i recently injured my knee. (it *will* be better on saturday though. :-) ) they played from 9:45 til at least 11:15 (maybe 11:30?) chris was definitely avoiding the high notes, but seemed to pick up steam as he went. matt makes me want to take up drumming. incredible. i realized last night that one of the main reasons i love the band is their sense of rhythm. chris often stomped the floor to the beat (like marching kind of). it was cool. also, shroom, chris lifted his shirt once and exposed his tummy--looked skinny to me, but you know what they say about lanky men....:-) also, he ragged on rolling stone again...does anybody know exactly why? my friend tom said it was because of the eddie vedder article? lastly, he dedicated pretty noose to "the bitch." anyone specific? anyway, it was rockin' and i can't wait til saturday in atlanta where i hope to meet dee dee, mariana, jay, jeremy, karen, vanessa etc. sleep tight, laura ------------------------------ From: j_crocke@unity.ncsu.edu Subject: my atlanta i love to have fun at shows as much as the next person... so therefore, i will not engage in any violent moshing, or getting people to CROWD SURF. I will laugh at you before saying no... and for all crowd surfers, first i like to grad or hit body parts, then TOSS you to security. thanks, Jeremy :) ------------------------------ From: Jay Stallings Subject: Re: Watch Visual Images of Soundgarden Interview Thought yall might like to see this. laters. -j In article <847809517.3810@dejanews.com> you wrote: : Watch Soundgarden's interview at 102.1 The Edge with Kim Hughes. Live images : will be broadcast live between approx. 6-8 p.m. E.S.T. on : Wednesday November 13th at http://www.campuscafe.com. : Or, visit later and watch the digitalized video. : ----------------------------------------------------------------------- : This article was posted to Usenet via the Posting Service at Deja News: : http://www.dejanews.com/ [Search, Post, and Read Usenet News] - -- ***************************************************************************** Regional Words; Colloquialisms: http://www.unc.edu/~toybox/words.html "I got a bad bad feeling, my baby don't live here no more. That's alright, i still got my guitar." -Jimi Hendrix ***************************************************************************** ------------------------------ From: Cornell Subject: My super-poopy analysis of BHS Ok, someone commented that they thought that BHS was about using sex to escape from your problems. But what I get out of it is really different... I think that it has to do with the fact that, in the speaker's eyes (not CHRIS', remember the whole persona in songwriting deal) the world is not worth trying to rehabilitate, so he's asking for either the end of the world (?) or some huge castastrophe to wipe it all away (Noah's Arc much?). The lines "times are gone for honest men", and "heaven send hell away" (hell being society, etc.) really convince me that it has to do with the world being in horrible shape. And the fact that he's asking for the BHS to "wash away the rain" (rain commonly affiliated with misery, pain in literature, etc) gives me an inkling towards the whole BHS being a catastrophe. Plus, the video does give support towards the end of the world theory. Watch closely and you can see people being sucked into the sky...nice touch. :) Gregg ------------------------------ From: "Jamie C." Subject: Fell On Bad Vocal Chords......... Someone mentioned to me that Ben didn't write BIMH. No shit. I said I heard a bit of his INFLUENCE (if that makes any sense at all) in the song. Anyways, tonight (Friday) I get to play my first acoustic show at some local coffee house. Now, I'm not gonna go on and on about my little band, but I must say that we were *this* close to playing a cover of Fell On Black Days, but we elected not to as we decided not to play any covers. Plus, I'm a terrible singer, so I couldn't bring myself to do it. Yes, I'm in an acoustic band, and if I ever caught myself saying we were a grunge band I would have to give myself a thoroughly un-orthodox flogging. come bite the apple............. - -- +jamie c.+ ************************************ "A go-go kids, a go-go style... A suck suck kiss, a suck suck smile" -Billy Corgan ("Where Boys Fear To Tread") ************************************ "Galvanized the oversight by pissing on your whole philosophy..." -Moist ("Shotgun") ************************************ ------------------------------ From: Carolyn Hanel Subject: Now they're announced as headliners FINALLY Soundgarden has not only been officially announced they'll be in = the Big Day Out concerts coming up in the Land of Oz, but now they are = officially the headline band, along with Sepultura. With Offspring, the = Prodigy and the rest all announced after them. I assume this means that SG will be the final concert of the night? = That would be great - something worth waiting for!! Carolyn the Maligned Footstool Many secrets have you, many secrets you have......Soundgarden ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 2 Issue 312] ****************************************