From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Wednesday, 20 Nov 1996 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 01:17:43 EST Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Wednesday, 20 Nov 1996 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: bass out of tune Brandeis show information Hope Chris has just a cold Patriot Center Show I still have tickets for Brandies Re: dec. 5, kaiser convention center in oakland Re: Unfairness on SNL? plz dont lugh... BHS video Jed the Fish Re: a GET WELL CARD get well card SG Hunting RE: Spring Tour? label STuFF Extra tix for philly..who wants it? uhhhh... excuse me??? Re: Unfairness on SNL? Comments on various things Re: Noises from the underground PRAY!!!!!!!! AHHH... Re: The evolution of the biography RE: The evolution of the biography Chris....Hugs and kisses sent out from NJ We're famous (kind of) 11/15 set list Re: BHS video I'm only faking, when I get it right... give up to greed, you don't have to feed me... RE: Souvenirs from Chicago ------------------------------------------------------------ From: "mcinturff, dylan" Subject: bass out of tune I have to say that I have mixed feelings about the out of tune bass episode that Ben put on in Chicago. Half of me thinks it was a really childish way to react to the situation. The pictures of the Sommsfest on Seth's page identify a guy in one picture with Matt as the bass tech. If this guy is the bass tech it isn't the one Ben used to have. The old bass tech looked like a tall goofy balding mad scientist-type of guy. Ben uses a lot of tunings (just like all the guys) and it's possible that the new guy just isn't accustomed to them all, and changes in the set list could lead to confusion. My band uses four tunings live, and our old guitar tech had trouble keeping up with a couple of them sometimes. Ben uses EADG, DADG, DGDG, CGDG, CGCG, DGCF, and if they play 4th of July, CFCG. That's a lot to keep up with, especially for a hired tech who was likely used to working with one or two bass tunings. Also, all you guys who are saying that it's easy to tune a bass: You may be right to a certain extent, but when you have to deal with five or six tunings, six basses, several amps, effects, tempermental wireless units, and making sure everything goes right for the musician you work for in a different city every night, it's NOT EASY. My band's manager used to be Joan Jett & the Blackhearts' guitar tech, so I've heard first hand about what a job it is. ON THE OTHER HAND- it can really fuck up a show if the guitars aren't in tune. If you're handed a guitar that's either out of tune or in the wrong tuning, it can mess up a show. Both guitar players in the band have had this happen, and they did get pissed off. just some thoughts- Dylan ------------------------------ From: overfloater@thenexus.com Subject: Brandeis show information i just called brandeis university to get this message: "due to the recent illness of lead singer chris cornell, soundgarden's show has been postponed." ^^^^^^^^^ at least, THAT's good news. the message went on to explain that the show WILL be rescheduled, but it WILL NOT be before January 1st, and that tickets for tomorrow's show will be honored at the new date. you can get refunds, but i didn't really listen because i wasn't interested, because i still want to go :> umm.. i have to make a few phone calls.. if you want to call and hear the message for yourself the number is: (617) 736-2000 and you'll get a computerized message. press 2 for directions to brandeis, and then press 1 for arriving by car, and then you'll get the message concerning the soundgarden show. glad it's being rescheduled, overfloater ------------------------------ From: Valahovic <"andv@ix.netcom.com"@ix.netcom.com> Subject: Hope Chris has just a cold From: Stephanie Valahovic Colds, Flus, Strep, Bronchitis, Nasty little bugs. I Hope Chris starts feeling better, not because of missed shows, which I feel bad for the people who were going to these shows, but I would really hate to think it is something more serious. P.S. Matt, if your reading this, TEA,LEMON, and HONEY, pass that information to Chris. ------------------------------ From: "Kelly Lee" Subject: Patriot Center Show I have an extra ticket to the D.C. show at the Patriot Center. If anyone is interested in purchasing it, please notify me as soon as possible. My e-mail address is cdlis@msn.com. Thanks! -Kelly Lee ------------------------------ From: The Shogun Woo >This Mail Was Send By Stimpy1 >Email:stimpy1@netvision.net.il >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >--- >only 3 days ago i saw soundgarden`s BOTUS co`z like i saw everyday all the >time Maybe I should know, but I don't. What the hell is BOTUS? I'm curious, as I am not familiar with this abbreviation. If anyone, including SITMPY1, could elaborate, it would be much appreciated. Shogun ------------------------------ From: Mike Groark Subject: I still have tickets for Brandies Well I still have some extras for the Brandies show if anybody wants them. They are now priced at $50 each. Just kidding! But I am fucking bummed. Guess we'll just have to wait for Spring. Mike Groark ------------------------------ From: JASNL@aol.com Subject: Re: dec. 5, kaiser convention center in oakland Hey Anthony... <> Me, me! And stoked about it, too. If anyone else is going let's hook up, OK? So we don't get crushed by the mob. Safety in numbers. ------------------------------ From: "stella" Subject: Re: Unfairness on SNL? SNL has been asking Soundgarden for years to be on the show, but they kept on saying no. Who knows why they finally agreed. > To: somms@MIT.EDU > Subject: Unfairness on SNL? > From: black_hole_sun@juno.com (Justin ABCDE) > Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 17:55:59 EST > Why did on the last SNL (11/16/96) Fiona Apple get on? She's been around > for about a month, right? Now, Soundgarden just got on a few months ago, > but they have been around about 10 years now, right? Hmm...... > > - --- srogers@fix.net http://www.fix.net/~srogers http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/1534 "Not only is life a bitch, but its always having puppies" ------------------------------ From: "stimpy1" Subject: plz dont lugh... - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - --- This Mail Was Send By Stimpy1 Email:stimpy1@netvision.net.il - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - --- Hi all... i`m gonna tell you somthing that i`m sure that it make lugh at me:( ok here goes: only 3 days ago i saw soundgarden`s BOTUS co`z like i saw everyday all the time mtv-europe and i didnt saw the video so i opend the t.v on chnnel [V] (it`s an asian music channel) and i saw the video amaizing i can say absalutly unbelevebly fucking AMAIZING!!!!! i`ll hope u w`ont lugh :) take care now byebye then!!! ------------------------------ From: "stimpy1" Subject: BHS video - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - --- This Mail Was Send By Stimpy1 Email:stimpy1@netvision.net.il - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - --- Hi all again listen i really wanna get BHS video there isn`t at seth`s page and i looked other pages to so if anyone have or knows where to get mail the list plzplzplz!!! tnx take care now byebye then!!! ------------------------------ From: Luck's Last Match Subject: Jed the Fish Yeah, i just listened the other day to a tape where i recorded most of Out of Order and Jed the Fish did seem to ask unstale questions.... In this broadcast, (around the airplay time of fobd) he said that chris started the trend of baldy singers. i never thought he was billy corgan bald, but hey what do i know, i've never cared what he looked like, excepting enough info to id him on the street.....ok, i'll shut up now. - -j "Stand up and everyone will see your holiness" -Soundgarden. ------------------------------ From: KAISERVRBL@aol.com Subject: Re: a GET WELL CARD How about we get a get well card to Chris. I mean hell, we recognize his birthday and all the guys with a card. He probably needs to know we're behind him and supporting him now more than ever! And even if he doesn't *need* it, it won't hurt to let hime know we care! Seth, is this a possibility? Lance "With words I'll never find" ------------------------------ From: CAMPBELLCG@bvu.edu Subject: get well card > How about we get a get well card to Chris. Sounds good, but don't put all the weight on Seth. Does *anyone* know if it is possible to get a card to him that won't be filed away with the rest of the fan mail. Maybe we could try sending it to Silver w/ a big SOMMS on it. They'd probly pay at least a little attention to one card from 600 or so devoted Soundgarden lovers. This sounds like a great idea though. I think we should send the ladies from the list to his house w/ some vapo-rub. Girls what do you think? just playing around biff ------------------------------ From: MEXUM@email.usps.gov Subject: SG Hunting Hello. I am DESPARATELY looking for the Soundgarden Bootleg entitled "Stolen Prayers". On top of having several false leads, I have searched and searched and run into dead end after dead end. If you have it or know of any way that I could get my hands on it, I would forever regard you as one of the most decent human beings on this earth. Admittingly, I do not have much else besides money to trade, however, I have three good and rare boots in my collection: "Push"(Norway 1994) - Soundgarden (Sound not as good as other two) "Fresh Deadly Rarities"- Soundgarden (All rarities recorded in studio i.e. EXCELLENT sound. One of the most sought after SG Boots there is) "Vortical" - Pearl Jam (Although I am, frankly, not that much into Pearl Jam, THIS IS AN INCREDIBLE BOOT) All of these are the original CD's. Thank You for any help, MJE P.S. At the very least, I could help search around the Raleigh/Durham/ Chapel Hill (North Carolina) area and search for rare Boots that you might be looking for in exchange for you doing the same in your area. In case you don't already know, the area I am in is the center of 3 colleges, thus, there are some very good music stores that carry a lot of rare stuff. ------------------------------ From: Monnica Lewis Subject: RE: Spring Tour? Well, they are skipping quite a few areas that they usually make stops in this time around. Hopefully this is true :-) If they make a stop in Ohio, Illinois or Indiana (fat chance), I'm definitely there! I hope Chris is feeling better - - :-( poor baby. Monnica ---------- From: Heather Aston To: somms Subject: Spring Tour? Date: Monday, November 18, 1996 7:45PM There is talk of a possible US spring tour in 1997. Please, please let this be true. Everyone, pray, even if you aren't religious.This is the first I've heard of this, and I suspect it may just have been thrown out to appease the disgruntled fans. Has anyone else heard anything about them touring here again next year? And why would they, considering they are doing it this fall? ------------------------------ From: Michele Subject: label Hi, I was playing around on the web today n I found something about SOUNDGARDEN had an ablum on the sire record label 1988 called "This Is Our Art." I never heard of this I was just wondering if anybody knew anything about this. Where I found this: http://mb1.musicblvd.com/cgi-bin/tw/5322848437834_105_210530 What it says, Selected Discography: Screaming Life, Sub Pop, 1987. ~ This Is Our Art, Sire, 1988. Ultramega OK, SST, 1988. Louder Than Love (includes "Big Dumb Sex"), A&M, 1989. Badmotorfinger, A&M, 1991. Flower (EP),SST. Cornell and Cameron, with former Mother Love Bone members Jeff Ament and Stone Cossard , also released Temple of the Dog, 1991. I am just a babling fool really, Michele ------------------------------ From: ShRooMGrLz@aol.com Subject: STuFF Monnica wrote: >I read somewhere that Ben is married and has a little girl. Ben's not married, but he has an 8 (?) year old daughter named... ummm... damn me, but I don't know how to spell it. I can barely pronounce it. Dena and I saw a picture of her and Ben's niece on the stage during the WA Lolla shows... it was so cute! It was taken from the back of the stage, and you could see her and her cousin crouched behind a huge amp or speaker or something... they were peeking at the crowd, and Kim playing. They looked like little faeries, or something. Too adorable! You can definitely tell that she's going to be tall like her daddy. =) Not a bad life for a kid, huh? Oh yeah... yesterday I was telling my mother that Chris was sick, and SG were having to cancel shows. What does this woman say to me? "Well that pooooooor guy!!" AAAUUUGGHHH!!! The woman drives me NUTS!! Here I am, trying to share an important part of my life with her, and she makes FUN of me!! Oh well, that's ok... I just turned around and reminded her that *I* saw Paul McCartney a few years ago and *she* didn't. ;-) Always go for the throat, kiddies. Especially when fighting with short people. (Ummm... no offense to any mothers or short people on the list, of course.) =) Stephanie wrote: >P.S. Matt, if your reading this, TEA,LEMON, and HONEY, pass that >information to Chris. No, no, no... baby oil, whipped cream, spankings and nibbles. =) Oh yeah, and Matt?? Take pictures. =) Shroom "Chris, Shroomy told me to tie you up and spank you until you get your voice back. Ummm... I'm not exactly sure how this is supposed to make you better, but it sure is fun!! Ahh, here's Kim with the camera now..." ~ Matt Cameron (Words not necessarily said in that order...) <~~~ my disclaimer ------------------------------ From: endless_nameless@prodigy.com (GRRL NIKI FREER) Subject: Extra tix for philly..who wants it? yep, you heard me right. i now have an extra ticket for the Philadelphia show on Nov 21, which would be this thursday... sorry the notice is this late, but it just became available as of last night. i do remember someone wanting a ticket for philly or Washington, so here it is. i'm going on a first come-first serve basis. and it's gonna be $20 even...$18.25 + the service charge which would put it 21 and change or something like that, so i'll just be nice and make it an even $20. e-mail me privately is you want it and we'll figure out the whole thing. mind riot ____ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ i'm tied within i'm luck's last match struck in the pouring down wind... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ From: overfloater@thenexus.com Subject: uhhhh... excuse me??? ok, in albany, where i live, there's this radio station, the edge (www.wqbk.com if you're interested in checking out their web page) and every week they give away a trip to go see a concert somewhere. this week, they're giving away a trip to seattle to see soundgarden, and it's being promoted as the "last tour of the century", and i JUST heard the dj say that soundgarden has decided to not tour again until the year 2000... umm... excuse me but are they fucking insane?!?!? i mean, i understand chris is sick, and that's why i'm not going to see sg this evening, but is he so sick that they're going to refrain from touring until THE YEAR 2000? i don't know if i can LAST that long! btw, i'm NOT making this up to be a dickhead. this is what i heard from the radio station here. i don't know, maybe THEY'RE full of shit. but i am just passing along what *i* have heard. something else that i don't understand is, if this is sg's last tour of the century then why are they mentioning a possible US 1997 tour? ugh oh argh... if anyone else has heard something like this, or can confirm it, PLEASE let me know. if this is their last tour of the century then they'd better make up the boston date.... sigh... ugh. i really wish chris wasn't sick... cause it sucks, and also, sigh. i was looking forward to today, but.. shrug.. oh well. your disgruntled somms member, overfloater ------------------------------ From: mshaw@lib.occ.cccd.edu (RoseeMisst) Subject: Re: Unfairness on SNL? JustinABCDE posted: >Why did on the last SNL (11/16/96) Fiona Apple get on? She's been around >for about a month, right? Now, Soundgarden just got on a few months ago, >but they have been around about 10 years now, right? Hmm...... Where the hell have you been? Soundgarden was on SNL soon after they released DOTU in late April. They was even a rerun of the episode(with Jim Carrey) about a month or two ago. If you want to check out some pictures from the show, check out imusic's site, find the Soundgarden site, and through searching, you should find a link to SNL pictures. RoseeMisst ------------------------------ From: "Mark" Subject: Comments on various things First and foremost, thanks to Lance for providing a public service - His B-side collection. Second, does anyone know where to find a copy of Motorvision? Thirdly, I will miss Caryn Rose's unique take on things. Fourthly, a much-deserved, (and late), THANK-YOU to all the people who posted concert reviews, esp. from the Chicago shows. It almost made me feel like I could share in the experience. I was bummed that I couldn't go to the New York or Brandeis shows, (kind of glad now that they were cancelled, though), so thanks for the vicarious experience. Lastly, Seth, I just saw your photographs from the Chicago show. They are wonderful!!!!!!! Have you ever thought of going into photography as a side-line? ( As if you have any spare time). Thanks for posting them. Really lastly, Michael - lighten up, will ya' Cathey I don't remember half the time If I'm hiding or I'm lost.....but I'm on my way ------------------------------ From: Deborah Baker Subject: Re: Noises from the underground Thanks to everyone who responded to my request for information on Noises From The Underground - either privately or on the list. Thanks to your help, I actually rang round and found it in a Central London bookstore today (at the vastly inflated price of =A320 - but it was worth it for the cover pic of Chris alone!) UKDeb ------------------------------ From: "Wilson Vanessa Faye" Subject: PRAY!!!!!!!! As stated above, everyone who is religious or not, PLEASE PRAY that Chris WILL get better, and the shows will resume tomorrow....and my heart goes out to those of you whose shows were cancelled. ------------------------------ From: "DashosheE" Subject: AHHH... This is the worst thing that has ever happened. My first time ever going to see SG and the damn show gets canceled. I just hope that Chris is ok...it would really suck if he's not. I guess its good that the show got canceled cause id rather wait and see a good show than see a sick Cornell on stage. ______________ Come on in and take me on an override ______________ dashoshe@neca.com http://www.neca.com/~dashoshe ------------------------------ From: MICHAEL APPLE Subject: Re: The evolution of the biography Date sent: 19-NOV-1996 16:17:43 >I *don't not* want *any* of my comments posted to this list to be included >in any kind of book you are writing. Nothing personal, I just don't want to >be involved. > >Monnica THere's no problem at all, Monnica. A few SOMMSsters have responding to my little question with huge egos, thinking that their CHicago posts were some integral part of my book. THis is a book on Kim Thayil. So, I'm only using your experiences about Kim THayil in the book. SInce you didn't have much contact with Kim Thayil, you are not a big source for the work. I just thought some of you might like to be mentioned in the book, so I asked. Some of the Chicago SOMMSsters posted me to let me know that they wanted to have their Chicago experiences included in the book, others politely asked to be excluded. But, those who seem to have an inflated sense of self, should be aware that this is just for fun. I could easily leave ALL the posts out and the book wouldn't be hurt by it at all. So, if you don't want your posts included, just let me know in a polite manner, and it's not a problem. All responses to this message are being erased. Later, Michael Apple 60C Wilson Hall SUNY Plattsburgh Plattsburgh, NY 12901 appl1115@splava.cc.plattsburgh.edu ------------------------------ From: Monnica Lewis Subject: RE: The evolution of the biography I *don't not* want *any* of my comments posted to this list to be included in any kind of book you are writing. Nothing personal, I just don't want to be involved. Monnica ---------- From: MICHAEL APPLE To: SOMMS Subject: The evolution of the biography Date: Monday, November 18, 1996 8:59PM Date sent: 18-NOV-1996 20:52:53 I just wanted to update you on the progress of my Kim Thayil biography . First of all, THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU, Seth, for putting together that archive of SG articles on the homepage. It is the most valuable resource I've found for information on Kim Thayil. You are getting a formal thank you in the foreword of the book. :) Also, I want to ask the Chicago-SOMMS-sters if I can use their emails on their experiences at the SOMMSfest as part of my book. I want to use it as part of the section on the 1996 Fall Tour in support of Down On The Upside. I still need more info on Kim childhood and teen years. Does anyone know when and under what circumstances Kim's family went to India when he was a kid? Does anyone know about Kim's high school experiences? Like how he met Hiro and Bruce Pavitt at school, and what kind of curriculum his school had ? Also, I wonder if anyone knows anything about Kim's immediate family, like their names, locations and stuff? I want to make sure I am prepared when I finally make the interview I'm trying to schedule. The book is still in research mode (as it will be for a few months), and I've only now gotten to my second outline. The outline itself is about forty pages long, so this book's going to be a whopper. :) No stone will be left unturned. This will be the most comprehensive biography you will ever see. Kim deserves it, don't you think? Thanks for all your help. :) Later, Michael Apple 60C Wilson Hall SUNY Plattsburgh Plattsburgh, NY 12901 appl1115@splava.cc.plattsburgh.edu ------------------------------ From: Moonsta693@aol.com Subject: Chris....Hugs and kisses sent out from NJ I went and told my mom the news yesterday about Chris cancelling the shows due to illness, and she tells me" I really think you're obssessed with this band. So, he gets sick. Everyone gets sick. What makes him so special? It really bothering me how you worry about people you don't know." 'SCUSE ME???? Can you believe it? Not only that, my friend(who I THought was my best friend...who came to the concert with me, who caused me to have a bad time)said " Don't listen to Zero Chance, that song makes you depressed." I said "Nope, makes me feel good." "She says..I think you're a little too into them!" Anyway. Seth, I didn't ge the mail for the 17th, could you send it to me>? Chris...We are here for you babe. I wish I could get sick for you. (no school) the original preety noose ------------------------------ Subject: We're famous (kind of) From: seth I don't remember being the organizer of any events, but this is from today's ATN (important content is in the last paragraph): Illness Causes Soundgarden To Postpone Shows Tour to resume Wed. night in Washington, D.C. Addicted To Noise staff writer Gil Kaufman reports: Soundgarden were forced to cancel the last of three sold-out shows in New York on Sunday night due to singer Chris Cornell's acute laryngitis. According to a managment source, Cornell's voice began to deteriorate late Friday night after the band's first Roseland Ballroom show and after Saturday's gig Cornell saw a doctor and was ordered to rest his voice for at least a few days. The band cancelled Sunday's show and tonight's (Tues., Now. 19) scheduled gig in Boston. According to a fax from the band's label, all tickets will be refunded at point of purchase, adding that "Soundgarden regrets having to cancel the two shows but look forward to resuming their tour on Wednesday [in Washington, D.C.]." A source at A&M, the label the group record for, said it wasn't clear yet if the shows will be made up at a later time. In other Soundgarden news, the band served as facilitators for a gathering of their faithful in Chicago recently. Twenty-three Soundgarden fans, part of a crew of hundreds of on-line disciples who call themselves The Sommsters, met each other for the first time on Nov. 9 and spent a weekend hanging out with the webmaster of the unofficial Soundgarden site and organizer of the event (MIT's Seth Perlman), having a few meals and checking out the two sold-out shows at the Aragon Ballroom. As a special treat, after going backstage to meet the band, each Sommster was escorted onto the stage to watch a Soundgarden song from the wings. ------------------------------ From: Ac71@aol.com Subject: 11/15 set list someone here asked for an NYC 11/15 set list (sorry did catch who asked for it) but here it is: (pretty much in order). Spoonman Searching w/ my good eye closed Let Me Drown Pretty Noose My Wave Burden In My Hand Ty Cobb Helter Skelter/Boot Camp Never Named Rusty Cage Black Hole Sun (Chris solo) Outshined Blow up the Outside World Dusty Search & Destroy Drawing Flies Slaves & Bulldozers - --------------------------------------- Never the Machine Forever Jesus Christ Pose ------------------------------ From: Geoff Subject: Re: BHS video Hey dude, Keep an eye on Seth's site. There'll be a clip of it there soon. Well...eventually. Geoff stimpy1 wrote: > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > This Mail Was Send By Stimpy1 > Email:stimpy1@netvision.net.il > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > Hi all again > > listen i really wanna get BHS video there isn`t at seth`s page and i looked > other pages to so if anyone have or knows where to get mail the list > plzplzplz!!! > > tnx > > take care now byebye then!!! ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: I'm only faking, when I get it right... On Tue, 19 Nov 1996, stella wrote: > SNL has been asking Soundgarden for years to be on the show, but > they kept on saying no. Who knows why they finally agreed. taken from _blah blah blah_, june 1996: This month, Soundgarden will appear on the last ever edition of the long running TV comedy favourite, Saturday Night Live, hosted by Jim Carrey, thus breaking their final taboo. "We had two things we said we'd never do. One was play when the sun was out, which we've now done, and the other was live TV. But Jim Carrey said he wouldn't do the programme unless we were on, so we relented." (me again) in the end, I think the guys in the band were big enough fans of carrey to consider doing the show with him, and then when he said that they had to be there if he was going to host the decision was sort of taken out of their hands, so to speak. btw, it is interesting that soundgarden performed on the last snl (I only learned that today), the last lollapalooza and the last big day out here in australia. other stuff that might be worthy of your attention: in addition to both kim and jerry playing on the next pigeonhed record, I read yesterday that drummers mark pickerel (formerly of the screaming trees) and matt chaimberlain (formerly of pearl jam) will also contribute. butow was out in the shops here yesterday, so I snapped it up (steve, your's will be in the mail soon). I'm not sure what to think of the b-sides. while it is cool to have both 'gun' and 'get on the snake' live on cd, it still seems kind of lame that they would include those two as unreleased material. as for 'slice of space jam'....well, I think I'll prefer to call it 'space ham'. ok, I know it is a jam/free form-type thing. but it would be cool if there was some sort of structure to it, not just a bunch of fairly uninteresting noodling that doesn't really develop into anything (take the jam that the band plays before half on the armoury boot. now *that* is a worthwhile jam). since each member of the band has virtually their own library of songs, partial songs and riffs, surely they could have used something of that nature? I place 'space ham' (hopefully it will grow on me) somewhere between 'jerry garcia's finger' and 'brewicide', a song which absolutely *kills* this jam session. probably closer to 'jerry...' in that regard :) ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide - words by kim thayil ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: give up to greed, you don't have to feed me... On Tue, 19 Nov 1996 overfloater@thenexus.com wrote: > week, they're giving away a trip to seattle to see soundgarden, and it's > being promoted as the "last tour of the century", and i JUST heard the > dj say that soundgarden has decided to not tour again until the year > 2000... umm... excuse me but are they fucking insane?!?!? i mean, i > understand chris is sick, and that's why i'm not going to see sg this > evening, but is he so sick that they're going to refrain from touring > until THE YEAR 2000? i don't know if i can LAST that long! I don't think that the band are on their farewell tour, no matter what that particular radio station is spouting. it sounds like so much bullshit that it would be hard for any reasonable listener to believe *anything* they have to say. what it sounds like to me is that the station is just playing up the tickets they have for all it's worth, and bugger the listeners. that is pretty sick. now that I have that off my chest (I harbour a strong disliking for radio djs), there is a small element of truth to the above statement that the station-heads probably wouldn't even be aware. as we all know, soundgarden started out in seattle as a live band. live shows in small pubs were their bread and butter (ok, it's a cliche, but I'm tired). but I read in the most recent issue of _drum_ magazine that matt hopes to move the band away from the live circuit in future years, in order to concentrate more on recording albums. he adds that the band may only have another two or three records left in them (this despite the massive amounts of music all four members *must* be sitting on, considering home-recording, 4-tracks and that they all write music as a hobby). this puts a lot of doubt in my mind. a band who I once thought would be close to immortal seems to be considering life on the other side. imho it is hard to imagine a group of four individuals who are more stable or tight-knit than soundgarden. I thought their individuality, purpose, honesty and seeming contentedness would lead to them being one of the most enduring musical acts of all-time. there have been no ridiculously long breaks between albums, there have been no public cat-fights and there has been basically no disquiet or acrimony within the band itself. but after a relative explosion in the number of guest appearances and side projects surrounding ben, matt, chris and kim, I begin to wonder where their focus lies. on the other hand, maybe the move away from touring is a good sign, not a bad one. touring can take a lot out of a band; the constant travel and closeness of world tours can lead to the friction/burn out that may one day lead to a break up. if soundgarden can avoid this by touring less in the future, then that is cool by me. if taking full control over recording and production responsibilities reduces pressure in the studio, then I'm all for it. hey, the band can record their records in their basements if they need to. I don't mind. I just hope that their seeming reluctance to continue on the hamster wheel (re: outshined) of touring doesn't indicate a band on the decline, emotional or otherwise. comments? ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide - words by kim thayil ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Carolyn Hanel Subject: RE: Souvenirs from Chicago Seth, I agree with the others who have posted about this already: YOUR = PHOTOS ARE EXCELLENT. Well done! :-) They truly DO look professional. = I urge all Sommsters to check out the web page, at: >>http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/images/chicago/ >>Some are better than others, all of them are GIFs and look better on monitors with higher color depths (because dithering sucks). Let me know what you think, positive and negative comments are both valuable to me -- this was my first attempt at concert photography. Seth, as mentioned above, the photos LOOK GOOD. Even if they WEREN'T = your first attempt! >>but I've gotten permission from the management to display my collection of photos from the Aragon Ballroom, November 10. Have Silver Management seen them all? They might commission you to be = their official photographer on their next tour! Hey - try for being the = photographer when they come Down Under!! Escape that dreary US winter = and come down here to the land of fun and sunshine! As I've already = told Justin, I'll have a fridge full of beer for any Sommsters who want = to come and visit, and Justin has agreed (or maybe you haven't yet, = Blind Dog??) to be our chaeuffeur...........C'mon, I'm all alone down = here in South Australia - the only SA Sommster, from what I can gather! = :-( Carolyn the Maddening Floozy I'm high as a kite, I just might stop to check you out......Violent = Femmes ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 2 Issue 310] ****************************************