From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Tuesday, 19 Nov 1996 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 01:50:42 EST Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Tuesday, 19 Nov 1996 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu ***SPECIAL REPORT: As most of you probably know, tonight's show at Brandeis University has been cancelled. The plan is to resume the tour with the show in Washington, D.C. Refunds for tickets for the canceled shows are being offered; the dates may be reshceduled for Spring 1997, when the band returns from Australia. -seth Today's Topics: SG IN NYC shirts S.F.S.G. "pre-party" my budget shopping spree RE: Stuck Between The Music and The Lyrics Re: Gentle Ben??? Re: Collection O' b-sides VOLUME 1 IS HERE Re: "this next song is dedicated to Johnny Cash" Girls Against Boys Huh? NYC flu Record collectors show sg cancelled???!!!!! Motorvision Roseland concert, November 17 Re: soundgarden December 2nd anyone???? Re: Hater/Sommsfest '96/Caryn's gone... Oh Chris...get well.... please!!!! Re: SOUNDGARDEN CANCELS SPENDING THE WEEKEND WITH CHRIS Any word on Brandeis? re: Kim and the common law Soundgarden SOUNDGARDEN CANCELS Re: Noises From The Underground SG IN NYC 2nd NIGHT Brandeis show ??QUESTION?? :) but I can't see it in the night... Unfairness on SNL? ATN says....Soundgarden Cancels Boston Setlist for NY show? NO! NOT CANCELLED! Spring Tour? Should have known The evolution of the biography Souvenirs from Chicago this sux Ben's wiggly fingers Re: Souvenirs from Chicago chris's voice ------------------------------------------------------------ From: Paul_Faraguna@dbna.com (Paul Faraguna) Subject: SG IN NYC Hi everybody! Haven't posted in a while because how does one come up with something as compelling as the goings-on at the Chicago SOMMSFest. I mean, I could tell the story of how, while walking to work, I saw a discarded box in the trash with the BMF logo on it. I could further relate the way in which I over-ran a bag lady, two winos, and a school child in my head long dash to retrieve said box and look inside it. Finding inside it every piece of music ever recorded by any member, past or present, of SG, in every form, from vinyl to CD. Obviously, this would be a major coup worthy of intense and animated discussion on this list. Even if this story were true, which it is not; even if I lied and said it was true, it would just crumble in comparison to the SOMMSFest! All I can say is "Gee Wiz! You guys are SO lucky!" Oh well, at least I'll be at the Roseland NYC show tomorrow and Sun. I guess I'll have to settle for just seeing them from the crowd...TWICE!!! HE HE HE! I'll try to make the SOMMS presence felt at the shows. I wonder if from now on merely "seeing" SG and not "meeting and greeting" them at future shows, will be good enough for the SOMMSFesters, or are they forever spoiled? SG hear we come! Paul LIMO DRIVER ------------------------------ From: GeekGirl@aol.com Subject: shirts thanks guys for all the replys.... all I now have left is the type 2 shirts.. all the type 1 shirts have been SOLD OUT!!! If you are still interested in a type 2.. let me know!! Blessed SOMMS Goddess Dena :)~ ------------------------------ From: danabt@ix.netcom.com (Dana Born-Thomsen) Subject: S.F.S.G. "pre-party" For those of you in the S.F. Bay Area, I read on the KSJO web page that KSJO is having a "pre-party" for SG on Nov. 21st. I haven't heard anything on the radio but maybe someone else has heard of it? According to the web page they will be giving out tickets to the show on Dec. 5th, cds, cd catalogue, "and a ton more" (whatever that means). It's supposed to be at Cheers in Sunnyvale on the 21st at 9:00 p.m. Maybe I'll go just to see what "a ton more" means.... ------------------------------ From: Jenny <100233.477@CompuServe.COM> Subject: my budget shopping spree today i picked up the burden single with karaoke, bleed together and birth ritual. I saw another burden single with karaoke, CC interview and poster (the poster was a still from the bimh video) but i didnt buy it because it was NZ$19.50 I also found (and bought) a 2cd black hole sun single with: like suicide (acoustic), kickstand (live), jesus christ pose (live) and beyond the wheel (live) anyone else got this? I got it for NZ$12.50 Jenny ------------------------------ From: person Subject: RE: Stuck Between The Music and The Lyrics On Sun, 17 Nov 1996, Carolyn Hanel wrote: > Jamie C wrote: > >>i must admit, i don't let the lyrics of any song influence whether or > not i like it. > >>it is for this reason that i hold the MUSIC so high. to me, it is all > that matters. > >>for example, if a song has awe-inspiring music, but bad lyrics, i will > still like it. however, i don't feel the same way about a song with > thought-provoking lyrics and no music to back it up. > >>But I listen to the music and the vocals as they intertwine..... > > Jamie, I have written a similar post before, over a year ago now. I understand what you're saying, completely. I too take a great deal of notice of the music. It is the overall sound of a song that will first attract me to it - then the lyrics follow suit. Some of my favourite songs are my favourites because they SOUND GOOD. (e.g. "Big Dumb Sex"). With those songs I might not ever even take the time out to really get to know and understand the lyrics. But then I also have favourites that are so because of their powerful, emotional lyrics (e.g. "Indifference"), but even those songs have a decent tune. > > I will often like a song that has bad lyrics with good music, but rarely will I enjoy a song with good lyrics and bad music. > > I'll shut up now before I bore you all to tears, > Carolyn the Merry Fairy > Thinking only screws me up......would you do my thinking for me? - Even > And I'd like to say that I agree with *both* of you. Its the music that attracts me to a song rather than the lyrics. The lyrics are secondary. I know some pople who can't listen to an album unless they've fully dissected the lyrics and analysed and decomposed them down to their most fundamental levels, but I really can't be bothered with all of that. The way I see it, song lyrics are written by an idividual, based on their own thoughts, experiences and suchlike, therefore, there's little point trying to interpret them as you can NEVER get inside another person's brain and know what was going through their mind when they wrote a particualr lyric. So yeah, its the music that does it for me as well. I can really get into the sound of a song, pick out little bits like riffs and the like which appeal to me. Some lyrics do have an emotional effect, however. That's almost unavoidable. And it's funny that you mentioned "Indifference", as that song has a very personal meaning to me as well. Snap!! :) - -me ------------------------------ From: person Subject: Re: Gentle Ben??? On Sun, 17 Nov 1996, The Shogun Woo wrote: > I say AMEN! I think I might have been the only person to defend Ben in some > manner (not effectively, but to some extent.). I always loved the music Ben > wrote for the band, and if he wants to act like that on stage so be it. I > understand also what you say about the tuning incident. The guy is a > sound-man. If he can't properly tune a bass, then he needs some serious help > (although one might wonder WHY the HELL did the guy get the job in the first > place.) If my guitar wasn't tuned before a big concert, I'd crack some heads > and not think twice about it. But hey, that's just me. If someone has had a > bad experience (as most people have) and you feel I'm a jackass for speaking > without experience, then I'm sorry. Untill the day that Ben throws foreign > objects at me without provocation, I'll have to stay on his side. Therapy? I > got an idea. Why don't you tell him yourself? (not you, dumo13) Whatver the problem. Ben has no right to go hitting people if he doesn't get his own way, and I don't care how famous he is. This is a CIVILISED society. If he's got a few personal problems and can't deal with the "angry youg man" which is obviously so prevalent in his (stage) character, then he should seek professional help. What are psychologist for? Coveresely, I do agree with you regarding his musical input to the band. He has written some of the best Soundgarden songs. "Face Pollution" and "Somewhere" on BMF and "Switch Opens" and "An Unkind" are just wto good examples. However (and this is gonna cause a bit of contention, but what the hell), I do think that Hiro was a more accomplished bass player (even if he never wrote as good songs as Ben). And, he never went around kicking and spitting at people when he didn't get his own way or when women were screaming at Chris instead of him... - -me ------------------------------ From: KAISERVRBL@aol.com Subject: Re: Collection O' b-sides VOLUME 1 IS HERE Hey SOMMSters, For all of you who thought my post about putting together a collection of B-sides, rareties, and hard to come-bys was a pererted joke. "FROM THE MOUTH OF DECADENCE" (That's what I decided to call it) VOLUME 1 IS FINISHED The 90 minute play list includes: SIDE 1 Kyle Petty Son of Richard Fell on Black Days (Demo Version) Blind Dogs Fluttergirl Into the Void (Sealth) Karaoke Spoonman (Remix) Black Cat Exit Stonhenge Motor Cycle Loop (Short Version) SIDE 2 Like Suicide (Acoustic) Cold Bitch Seasons Right Turn (Alice Mudgarden *Chris on vocals*) Hey Baby/Land of the Rising Sun (MACC) HIV Baby Sub Pop Rock City Big Dumb Sex (New Version Remix) Nowhere But You Now I can send these to you guys ONE volume at a time "OR" you can wait until I finish Volume 2 (Sometime in the next two weeks. There may also be a volume 3 but it will be much shorter). Anyway, I'm going to figure out what postage will be(In the USA, I've had a lot of response outside of the country) but counting the tape the cost will be in the $4.50 - $5.00 range. Both vollumes will probably be closer to $6 (I'm not making any money this is only hard costs). For those of you still interested, E-mail me & we'll figure this out. Volume 2 will include: Show Me, Bleed Together, FOBD (video version), Girl U Want, Toy Box, Stray Cat Blues, She's a politician, Birth Ritual (Sndtrk & demo versions) Heretic, Come together, Fresh Deadly Roses, She like Surprises, Jerry Garcia's finger, Missing, Stolen Prayer, Heart Fist, Unholy War, Angel on Fire, Heretic (Deep Six), Tears to Forget (Deep 6) All your Lies (Deep Six) plus a few more from the Badmotorfinger days if my fellow SOMMSters come through for me. I'm also in the process of waiting for both versions of BUTOW to come so I can include those B-sides as well! - -Lance- "In words I'll never find" P.S. sorry this post was so damn long. ------------------------------ From: tonerkin Subject: Re: "this next song is dedicated to Johnny Cash" At 11:48 PM 11/17/96 -0500, you wrote: >yeah, that is what Chris said before Rusty Cage in Chicago... > >FYI, Johnny is going to be on Jay Leno on Tuesday night >to promote Unchained....*maybe* he'll do Rusty Cage?!?! >it'll be worth watching to see, just in case!! I stayed up and watched 120 minutes last night and "Rusty Cage"-Johnny Cash was the last video!!! Talk about a weird deal...the man in black on MTV!!! 120 min. none the less. Pretty straight forward video. Johnny in the studio with Tom Petty as a side man. And a little live footage. This is the first I heard the song and I'm sorry but I know I sat there with my mouth open in obvious dibelief!! It's not that it's that bad or anything. It's just so strange to hear/see those words come out of Johhny Cash's mouth!! Praying to the Soundgarden gods that Chris is feeling better!! Praying to the sky gods to keep my jet airborne. Off to DC this morning(See ya soon Jamie!) to go to DC sommsfest and hopefully to go to a Soundgarden concert!!! At you guys later, toni ------------------------------ From: MICHAEL APPLE Subject: Girls Against Boys Date sent: 18-NOV-1996 09:51:11 I never said that Girls Against Boys were from Seattle. When I talked with them before, they told me that ORIGINALLY they were from DC, but moved their base of operations to New York City. I guess a good comparison would be Jimi Hendrix being born in Seattle, then moving to London. (And they WERE signed to Sub Pop, because they have records on the Sub Pop label, still being sold by Alternative Distributors Alliance. Later, Michael Apple 60C Wilson Hall SUNY Plattsburgh Plattsburgh, NY 12901 appl1115@splava.cc.plattsburgh.edu ------------------------------ From: MICHAEL APPLE Subject: Huh? Date sent: 18-NOV-1996 09:56:59 Why are people still sending messages to me in response to threads that were over five days ago? Shut up about the fucking moshing already! I don't care about anyone else's opinion on that anymore. The conversation is over now! It's over now! OVER! That means that we're all done talking about it. SO, please stop sending me messages about it, because we've finished talking about it. Later, Michael Apple 60C Wilson Hall SUNY Plattsburgh Plattsburgh, NY 12901 appl1115@splava.cc.plattsburgh.edu ------------------------------ From: gjw10@yoknapatawpha.pols.columbia.edu Subject: NYC flu There's been a really nasty flu going around the city this Fall. I know a lot of people who were down with it. I had it and it took me about a month to get better. Let's hope Chris didn't catch it, otherwise SG is sure to cancel a lot of dates. Does anyone know if we can get our refunds at any Ticketmaster outlet, or do we have to go to the Roseland box office? Greg ------------------------------ From: Gonzo Subject: Record collectors show Good mourning music lovers,concert goers At the record collectors show on Sunday I picked a few soundgarden items.Suk 12 inch blue vinyl records,and the 12 inch etched TDITTL with Superunknown stencil,this one has Etched on the b-side "One more time around might do it". DOTU group poster,DOTU flat.And finally,The BB Diaries with Blind Dogs.I have never heard this track until now. Stuff I passed up because I did not want to blow all my money. Westwood one Interview w/cue sheet-2 different ones going for $30.00 and $25.00 respectively,BIMH promo cd for $10.00 and Soundgarden pins.the Louder then Love/BMF 2cd set for $25.00. All in All,nothing really rare or special. I still have 200-300 e-mail messages to comb through.If you e-mailed me and have not received a reply.It is because I only have E-mail access at work in my office.I did not come near my office all weekend. Gonzo Jaime Gonzalez Computer Repair Technician Engineering Services Michigan State University 505 Computer Center 353-5266 JGG@pilot.msu.edu FAX:517/3536506 ------------------------------ From: "Wilson Vanessa Faye" Subject: sg cancelled???!!!!! So what is this shit about the flu? I've been counting down the minutes till the november 23rd show in atlanta, this will be real hard to get over b/c I've been waiting since lollapallooza '96 to see them on tour again....I guess my best bet before driving 5 hours for nothing would be to check on MTV or call ticketmaster...? and Mike, brain, or whoever with the e-mail starting w/apple- sorry if my message was 5 days old about moshing, it shouldnt still be up, though...sorry. Can someone help me w/ that too? - -vanessa (vfwilson@catawba.edu) ------------------------------ From: "Charles M. Croslin" Subject: Motorvision Just saw Motorvision for the first time. Its probably been discussed to death before I even got here, but what an amazing performance! I'd listen to an audio recording of this as much as I'd listen to BMF. Not having seen SG in the day of Little Joe, it was cool to see that. The version of Mind Riot sounds like its going to burst at any moment, but lays down that methodical groove until the end. And Slaves and Bulldozers...geez, forget about it! To anyone still uninitiated, see this thing ASAP. It shows the band in all of their melodic, noisy splendor. What kind of animal is Matt Cameron anyway? Has he ever missed a beat in JCP? I've seen and/or heard five or six different performances of this song and it was just as incredible last Tuesday as it was four years ago. Chas ------------------------------ From: Heather Aston Subject: Roseland concert, November 17 Last night was supposed to have been my first SG concert. But it was cancelled due to illness. To be honest, I was actually surprised at how badly I felt about this. I usually take things in stide. This concert was the one good thing I had to look forward to during the past three unpleasant months. Cynthia, who was there on Friday and Saturday, said Chris' voice was going on Saturday, so I guess that was the illness. This is quite a disappointment. Refunds are being offered, but really, I would prefer that they reschedule. :-( On a happier note, I got to meet some of the list members (Jennifer and Christine (Christina?), and the earlier mentined Cynthia) We all went to see "Hype!" which was good, but lacking. Live footage of the Gits was shown, but no mention of Mia's murder. Mother Love Bone was also mentioned several times but there was no live footage, which would have been nice. Considering that Susan Silver manages SG and Alice in Chains, I thought they would have more interviews with her. Still, overall it was a thoughtful, funny documentary of the Seattle scene. Since I didn't get the chance to see SG in New York, I'm going to try to make another concert. This is a long shot, but If anyone has one or more tickets they would be willing to sell for the Philadelphia or Washington, D.C. concerts, please e-mail me. Thanks. ------------------------------ From: mshaw@lib.occ.cccd.edu (RoseeMisst) Subject: Re: soundgarden >Anyone check out the interview with Chris on K-Roq (11/14/96)? It was really >cool. Where are all the band members from? OHMIGOD!! Are you serious!! I can't believe Chris was on KROQ!! I hope that you are a poster not from LA, because I will seriously go psycho if I know I missed that interview. Jed the Fish does great interviews with band members, not asking those recycled questions. Speaking of KROQ, hopefully the band will also be on Loveline in December, when they play in LA. RoseeMisst ------------------------------ From: iawake@ix.netcom.com (Chris (SGardnGrl)) Subject: December 2nd anyone???? I would like to get a head count on all Sommsters that plan on attending SG's December 2nd show Universal. So...anyone attending and wanting to meet others members...please feel free to email me, so I can try and arrange a get-together before the show. COME ON NOW....don't be shy!!!!! WE'RE ALL DYING TO MEET *YOU*!!!!!!!* ------------------------------ From: mshaw@lib.occ.cccd.edu (RoseeMisst) Subject: Re: Hater/Sommsfest '96/Caryn's gone... >Oh yeah, I heard from Seth this morning that Caryn Rose unsubscribed >from the list. Hmm. As much as I disagreed with her I still respected her. >I am going to miss her. (Did I just say that?) She definitely had a >"presence" on here and when I saw no posts from her all week, I knew >something was up. What do you all think about it? > >Vincent I didn't know Caryn personally, I hardly emailed her personally, but I can say that I do miss her posts. She seemed to have an air of a "SOMMS veteran", if there is such a thing... RoseeMisst ------------------------------ From: iawake@ix.netcom.com (Chris (SGardnGrl)) Subject: Oh Chris...get well.... please!!!! This goes out to Chris Cornell..... HOPE YOU GET WELL SOON ...TAKE CARE OF THAT GOD-LIKE VOICE!!! I WISH YOU THE FASTEST RECOVERY!!! ------------------------------ From: "stella" Subject: Re: SOUNDGARDEN CANCELS From the fan club: > There is talk of a possible US spring tour in 1997. > I hope so. I'm gonna be missing the dates this time around. And my bday is in spring. What a joyful present that would make! stella ------------------------------ From: mshaw@lib.occ.cccd.edu (RoseeMisst) Subject: SPENDING THE WEEKEND WITH CHRIS I had a dream this weekend that was ironic to the comments on Chris getting sick and canceling his show. It went something like this: Inside of a room of a concert arena, me and a group of people(my guess is that they were female SOMMSters) were talking to Chris. Now actually, Chris was getting sicker by the minute. It was so weird how he took his shirt off, looked incredibly skinny and pasty, and then he started babbling to himself(I forgot about what) He was kinda acting like Dustin Hoffman in Rain Man, but he acted as if really ill. Soon, an entourage came and put him on a stretcher. I remember skipping some scenes and somehow I ended up inside of this massive airplane that was about to take off shortly. I saw chris in corner on that stretcher, in which he was strapped to it with the stretcher standing upright and up against a wall, looking deathly ill. For some reason, Lars Ulrich of Metallica was explaining Chris's condition to me... I also finally looked at the issue of Details. Not very many pictures of Chris, but some damn good ones. Some of you out there have already heard the version of Johnny Cash's "Rusty Cage" I haven't heard it on the radio yet. I live in a place as diverse as Los Angeles, and all I get is the commercialism of alternative radio!!(there are only a few good stations) Anyway, I stayed up all night watching 120 Minutes because Matt Pinfield announced that Cash's video would be coming up...Hell, it came at the end of the show(I can't believe I stayed up 2 hours and lost sleep) But since I don't watch much television, I had to see it now or never. His version is pretty "countrified", but it's still okay. I still prefer SG's version. RoseeMisst ------------------------------ From: Sachin Trivedi Subject: Any word on Brandeis? Hey there, Has anyone heard a word about tomorrow's show at Brandeis? I'm praying that it won't be canceled, although it doesn't look good. Please let me know if you find anything out. Thanks Sachin ------------------------------ From: Monnica Lewis Subject: re: Kim and the common law I read somewhere that Ben is married and has a little girl. My thought for the day. Monnica ---------- From: AntiDog To: somms Subject: re: Kim and the common law Date: Saturday, November 16, 1996 7:11PM In response to: Valahovic Kim has said he's not married, but he does have a live-in girlfriend. I think he referred to her as his common-law wife. AntiDog writes: Okay, what's your respective source on this one? I mean I've read articles on these guys for ions, and besides the plethora of personal info on Chris (and the obvious fact that he's married), I know only of a recent SPIN reference to Matt's (I think live-in) girlfriend. I've not once seen anything on Kim or Ben's personal info (even going back 5 or 6 years).... even when the writers are describing their houses or friends, or whatever.... so what are the details here guys? ------------------------------ From: MICHAEL APPLE Subject: Soundgarden Date sent: 18-NOV-1996 14:41:10 By the way, I was just wondering... Soundgarden is a band, right? Bands play music, right? So, this really is a music list, isn't it? Sorry, if I offended anyone, but I just thought that since we were talking about Soundgarden and their music, we should talk about Soundgarden and their music. All responses to this are getting erased. Later, Michael Apple 60C Wilson Hall SUNY Plattsburgh Plattsburgh, NY 12901 appl1115@splava.cc.plattsburgh.edu ------------------------------ Subject: SOUNDGARDEN CANCELS From: Soundgarden - -- [ From: Soundgarden * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] -- SOUNDGARDEN CANCELS NYC, BOSTON SHOWS PLANS TO RESUME TOUR ON WEDNESDAY Soundgarden announced today that they WILL be playing Washington DC on Wednesday, November 20. The Sunday, November 17th show of Soundgarden's sold - -out three night run in New York City and Tuesday, November 19th in Boston were cancelled due to Chris Cornell's laryngitis. All tickets will be refunded at point of purchase. Soundgarden regrets having to cancel the two shows but look forward to resuming their tour on Wednesday. There is talk of a possible US spring tour in 1997. ------------------------------ From: "Phelan, Kate" Subject: Re: Noises From The Underground I don't have the ISBN for the book, but I do have this: Noise from the Underground, by Pat Blashill, published by Fireside "Blashill, with photography by Michael Lavine, captures the rebellious path of alternative music, from its roots in early 1980's punk rock to its present preeminence." Borders Bookstore price: US $25.00 NICE pictures. Kate From: Deborah Baker Subject: Noises From The Underground Can someone please email me (or better still let the list know) the author, publisher and ISBN of Noises From The Underground: A History of Alternative Rock Photos. Thanks. ------------------------------ From: Paul_Faraguna@dbna.com (Paul Faraguna) Subject: SG IN NYC 2nd NIGHT Hi everybody, I went to Sat.'s show, and in light of Sun.'s cancellation all I can say is thank God Cyn Siragusa came thru with an extra set of tkts for Sat. Thanks again! Well, I met up with Cyn and Carl and Heather at the predetermined location. My buddy Mike and I had actually gotten there first to have something to eat. I really enjoyed meeting everybody. Having a nice bunch of like-minded people to watch the show with really enhanced it for me. Cyn kept track of the set-list so I'll let her take care of that. I'll just share a few of my impressions. First of all, Surfdog(Carl) was one of the gang and he describes our location in the crowd very well in his post: Stage-right, about 20' from the stage and in front of the stack. Chris and Kim were always in view, Ben would sometimes be hidden by the stack, but all 3 of them took turns stepping in front of the stack. At these times, you could practically touch them. Seeing Matt required some extra special effort since he is further back on the stage. I managed to find a fold-up chair which I promptly stood on for the 1st full hour of the show. This was truly an added perspective since not only could I see SG better, but I could also look out across the entire crowd. When Chris demanded that all lights be turned off. I was treated to a surreal view of a shadowy Chris addressing a shadowy moving mass of people that seemed blended as one, due to the lack of illumination. The mass would ebb and flow like water and then all of a sudden a human form(crowd surfer) would emerge from the mass like a fish jumping up out of the water. I had this unique perch until a security guard finally took the chair away from me. I've read some reviews that said Chris's voice was shot and that the show wasn't that good, but I have to disagree. When he spoke to the crowd you could hear a hoarseness in his voice, but when he sang he was INTENSE. So intense in fact that Mike and I both commented that if he kept it up he wouldn't be able to perform on Sun.(which as we know is what happened). We had better acoustics at LOLLA but that is probabaly because we were center stage at LOLLA instead of Stage right at Roseland. Anyway, there was more than enough energy to have me singing along at the top of my lungs, to the point that I am quite hoarse myself. When he did his solo BHS the crowd sang it for him. He seemed truly impressed. I was close enough to be able to read his lips as he backed away from the mike and said "Thats really great." and "You guys have really got." He played the entire song solo as opposed to only part of it at LOLLA and at other shows this tour. Regardless of how you feel about BHS, the moment was SPECIAL! Ben only spit on the audience once(not in my direction) and even that seemed to be more in fun than anger. In the middle of the show someone threw something at Ben, and Chris good naturedly warned the idiot not to "mess with this dude because he has a real dark side." At the end Chris and Ben both fell over into Kim's speakers. As Chris got up he threw a beautiful Gibson Les Paul into the audience. A near riot broke out. A security guard eventually retrieved it and walked right past me with it. It was in one piece, remarkabley, but all the strings had been torn off it. Later on in the subway, on the way home, we saw several people with sections of guitar string. Anyway those are some of my impressions. I loved the show and it was great to meet Cyn(again) and Carl and Heather. Hoping Chris feels better, Paul ------------------------------ From: Nate Crosswhite Subject: Brandeis show Hey all, I just called Brandeis university, and the Nov 19th show has been postponed! If you call their info number, (617)736-2000, and choose to get directions to the University, there is a recorded message that says the concert is postponed due to Chris' sudden illness. There is no reschedule date, but the message said it will definitely be after January 1st. Refund info is also available. Damn, damn, damn!!! Nate ------------------------------ From: Aferdity@aol.com Subject: ??QUESTION?? :) Hey everbody!!! A real bummer about the shows but hopefully Chris will recover soon so no more will be canceled. (Let us all join hands now and pray really hard!!!!!) Anyway, I was wondering if the people that have already been to the shows could help me out. What I need to know is when Soundgarden took the stage and about how long did the show last? Stay Cool and keep praying, maybe God will here us all and take pity on us. Hugz & Cyber Kisses!! Toodles, Kelly :) ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: but I can't see it in the night... here is the bad news, straight from monday's atn - "Soundgarden had to cancel Sunday night's sold-out show in New York, as well as a show scheduled for Tues., Nov. 19 in Boston because Details cover boy Chris Cornell has laryngitis. Tickets to both shows will be refunded. The group expects to resume touring on Wed., Nov. 20 with a show in Washington, D.C." my commiserations go out to all bostonian and new york area sommsters. hopefully you will get a show after the last date in seattle on december 11. it probably isn't the way the band wants to finish their domestic tour (just before christmas and everything), but those people who bought tickets deserve to see a make-up show. would the individual who gave chris the cold that eventually turned into laryngitis please stand up? I want to have a good shot at you with my crossbow :) ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide - words by kim thayil ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ Subject: Unfairness on SNL? From: black_hole_sun@juno.com (Justin ABCDE) Why did on the last SNL (11/16/96) Fiona Apple get on? She's been around for about a month, right? Now, Soundgarden just got on a few months ago, but they have been around about 10 years now, right? Hmm...... ------------------------------ From: "Steven Russell Jr." Subject: ATN says....Soundgarden Cancels Boston Hey list I havent seen this on the list yet...so I thought I'd pass it along. If someone else has already posted the Boston cancellation, my bad :-) Steve - -------------------from addicted to noise------- Soundgarden had to cancel Sunday night's sold-out show in New York, as well as a show scheduled for Tues., Nov. 19 in Boston because Details cover boy Chris Cornell has laryngitis. Tickets to both shows will be refunded. The group expects to resume touring on Wed., Nov. 20 with a show in Washington, D.C. ------------------------------ From: guagliardo@un.org Subject: Setlist for NY show? Anybody have the setlist for the 11/15 Roseland show? -Tony ------------------------------ From: Fett81@aol.com Subject: NO! NOT CANCELLED! My dear mournful SOMMSters, I'm am extremely sad. See if you can guess why. I was so looking forward to the Brandeis show, but now I'll have to wait a couple more months. But, Chris' voice comes before my complaining, so I wish him a great and speedy recovery. (Thank God he didn't screw up his voice again!) -Fett ------------------------------ From: Heather Aston Subject: Spring Tour? SOUNDGARDEN CANCELS NYC, BOSTON SHOWS PLANS TO RESUME TOUR ON WEDNESDAY Soundgarden announced today that they WILL be playing Washington DC on Wednesday, November 20. The Sunday, November 17th show of Soundgarden's sold - -out three night run in New York City and Tuesday, November 19th in Boston were cancelled due to Chris Cornell's laryngitis. All tickets will be refunded at point of purchase. Soundgarden regrets having to cancel the two shows but look forward to resuming their tour on Wednesday. There is talk of a possible US spring tour in 1997. Please, please let this be true. Everyone, pray, even if you aren't religious.This is the first I've heard of this, and I suspect it may just have been thrown out to appease the disgruntled fans. Has anyone else heard anything about them touring here again next year? And why would they, considering they are doing it this fall? ------------------------------ From: "Jen Kern" Subject: Should have known I was just sitting back thinking of my favorite SG songs--Jesus Christ Pose being at the top of the list--when it dawned on me--JCP is a song that was written by EVERYONE!!! How perfect. JEN ------------------------------ From: MICHAEL APPLE Subject: The evolution of the biography Date sent: 18-NOV-1996 20:52:53 I just wanted to update you on the progress of my Kim Thayil biography . First of all, THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU, Seth, for putting together that archive of SG articles on the homepage. It is the most valuable resource I've found for information on Kim Thayil. You are getting a formal thank you in the foreword of the book. :) Also, I want to ask the Chicago-SOMMS-sters if I can use their emails on their experiences at the SOMMSfest as part of my book. I want to use it as part of the section on the 1996 Fall Tour in support of Down On The Upside. I still need more info on Kim childhood and teen years. Does anyone know when and under what circumstances Kim's family went to India when he was a kid? Does anyone know about Kim's high school experiences? Like how he met Hiro and Bruce Pavitt at school, and what kind of curriculum his school had ? Also, I wonder if anyone knows anything about Kim's immediate family, like their names, locations and stuff? I want to make sure I am prepared when I finally make the interview I'm trying to schedule. The book is still in research mode (as it will be for a few months), and I've only now gotten to my second outline. The outline itself is about forty pages long, so this book's going to be a whopper. :) No stone will be left unturned. This will be the most comprehensive biography you will ever see. Kim deserves it, don't you think? Thanks for all your help. :) Later, Michael Apple 60C Wilson Hall SUNY Plattsburgh Plattsburgh, NY 12901 appl1115@splava.cc.plattsburgh.edu ------------------------------ Subject: Souvenirs from Chicago From: seth These will probably mean more to the people who were at the Chicago shows (I know I always love reading reviews and looking at photos of shows I actually attended), but I've gotten permission from the management to display my collection of photos from the Aragon Ballroom, November 10. Some are better than others, all of them are GIFs and look better on monitors with higher color depths (because dithering sucks). Let me know what you think, positive and negative comments are both valuable to me -- this was my first attempt at concert photography. http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/images/chicago/ seth ------------------------------ From: tealyf@ix.netcom.com (*.*) Subject: this sux WHJY-fm reported at 4:00 pm that Tuesday's Brandeis show is CANCELLED. No word on Chris' condition (the dj just reported that the cancellation was due to illness, he did not even know which band member was ill) but I think it's safe to assume that there will be further cancellations/postponements. Sighhh ... oh well, these things happen. Best to wait for Chris' voice to recover than for him to kill himself and kill his vocal health ... The people I feel bad for are those who attended Saturday's show & got the second coming of Klaus Meine. Tealy, Son of Richard "But Daddy, our Christmas will be ruined if Mom can't sing at church tomorrow!" - Cindy Brady ------------------------------ From: Terri Parks Subject: Ben's wiggly fingers In response to the question Greg asked on Monday's post regarding what Ben does when he crosses his arms and wiggles his fingers....Well I am currently enrolled in a Sign Language program and I have learned that that means "bullshit". I saw him do that at the Hater show and it took me by suprise. I really dont know if that's what he means when he does that but this is just what I learned or I should say...showed. Did anyone manage to catch Johnny Cash's video last nite on 120 min doing Rusty Cage?........very interesting Terri ------------------------------ From: Josh_Garza@teachnet.edb.utexas.edu (Josh Garza) Subject: Re: Souvenirs from Chicago i just checked out these pictures you just put on there, and you got some GREAT shots. they rule. even though i was not there at chicago or anything, they are great. and many of them i think are good enough to be proffesionally printed, you know,..... im trying to remember but on the first page: the second and fourth pictures, second page: second (or 1st?) and last pictures, are awesome poses. and the funky lighting just adds to it. your first attempt was pretty damn good you know.. just posting cuz everyone should check them out if you aren't already - -pencapchew - -- - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- TeachNet, College of Education, University of Texas, Austin Texas - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ From: Josh_Garza@teachnet.edb.utexas.edu (Josh Garza) Subject: chris's voice well with all this talk about hoping for a spring tour, i for one am very much worried about the state of chris's voice. besides the obvious that it would be a HUGE killer disappointment if they had to cancel more dates on the tour, Chris's health and voice is way too valuable to be taken lightly. i don't really want to make a big deal of this becuz it would make drive me crazy worrying about whether or not i am going to get to see them or not. i am trying to stay sort of calm, although it did shock the hell out of me when i saw that news on the top of seth's page. but the point, i am hoping first that this thing with his voice is not that serious that at least i am making it to be and doesn't pose a problem.... ok enough rambling, maybe im unknowingly looking for reassurance about this.. - -pencapchew - -- - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- TeachNet, College of Education, University of Texas, Austin Texas - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 2 Issue 309] ****************************************