From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Monday, 18 Nov 1996 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 02:13:16 EST Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Monday, 18 Nov 1996 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu ***SPECIAL REPORT: The Sunday night show at Roseland in New York City was cancelled due to problems with Chris' voice. Reports indicate he has a cold or bronchitis, so let's hope for a speedy recovery. Tuesday night's show at Brandeis University may be cancelled as well... I'll be sure to pass on any information I receive. -seth Today's Topics: He plays a mean sonata!!! whimpy Lufkin Chris likes it dark...NYC 16 report BIMH Hype! chicago/east coast shows/gvsb/zep 2nd NYC show an unburdening in my hands Brandies Show HYPE Tonights show cancelled?? RE: Tonights show cancelled?? ok, i'm posting to the list. so sue me. 3rd NYC show Roseland #3?????????!!! searchlight soul they say... 3rd NYC SHOW CANCELLED "this next song is dedicated to Johnny Cash" Motorcycle Loop Roseland Saturday my experience ------------------------------------------------------------ From: tonerkin Subject: He plays a mean sonata!!! At 06:28 AM 11/17/96 -0500, you wrote: > Chris Cornell?? Who's that?? Hmmmm... guess who *I* finally got a >picture of, kiddies? Nope... guess again! Nope... guess again!! Well... >let's just say that the wallpaper on my computer this week is flavored >Perlman. Wow! Itzhak Perlman wallpaper...Yummy! I didn't know you were such a classical violin fan Shroom dear!!!! What next posters of Pavoratti in your room???? That's what I love about this list...such diversity!!! toni ------------------------------ From: Xxiippyy Subject: whimpy Lufkin I don't know about any of the rest of you, but I do not appreciate this Lufkin person complaining to me about his soundgarden misfortune. While I hate that it happened, I am not the one he needs to speak to. If none of the rest of you work for the Soundtable, I would assume you are not who he needs to speak to either. I think we should ALL tell him about it. :) Here is his address: Lufkin@msvax.mssm.edu AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA speaker@occ-uky.campus.mci.net VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV ------------------------------ From: Moonsta693@aol.com Subject: Chris likes it dark...NYC 16 report My favorite line for the week...."I'd let you lick it if I had one" Anyway. I didn't meet up with any of the Sommsters, 'cause I got to NYC too late to go to the meeting place. But it was an awesome show. I must say it was exciting, finnding myself in the middle of the pit, getting trampled, getting high of the smoke in the room, my pants sticky from the spilled beer, not being able to see them at certain times, plus meeting some wild people. As for the rest of the night, I found myself into some kind of mist, when Chris wanted it to be dark, no lights whatsoever. I know a lot of people didn't know what to make of it, or not only that, but took what he said the whole wime...sexually. I don't mean it was wrong to think that, but I took it on a more personal level. I don't know if was because it struck a cord with me, or if I really saw the man as he is. I know what he was feeling, because(watch me sound stupid now)I feel the same way Chris is. I don't consider myself to be as much as a recluse as he is, but I find that Chris and I have more in common when it comes down to moods, and personality. (maybe it's a Cancer thing) So when he was talking, and singing, I guess you can say I felt some kind of bond. but overall, I think that was an awesome concert, that gave me even more a reason to listen to the band that I love so much. One more thing, if anyone knows the set list for the 16th show, please e-mail it to me. the original preety noose ------------------------------ From: "mcinturff, dylan" Subject: BIMH Hey Jamie from Winnipeg- Ben didn't write BIMH. I'm sure he had some influence in how it came out sounding, but he didn't write it. Dylan ------------------------------ From: "Jason R. Janik" Subject: Hype! Saw Hype! Friday night at the Fort Lauderdale International Film Festival. It played at 11 pm. About 100 people there. Don't know if anyone else on the list knew about this or was actually there, because there was scant warning in the papers, and I happened to catch it almost by accident... but enough about that. The movie was incredible, not just for the great performance of SWMGEC, but just overall. Funny thing about SG's performance was that it was taken at an arena (I don't remember which), while every other performance in the movie was from Seattle clubs. They cut out after the first two verses of SWMGEC and interview Kim, and then (thankfully) cut back in, but all the while the music is in the background during that part of the interview. Lots of names from SG's past, lots with Jack Endino, some with Steve Fisk, Charles Peterson, and the founders of Sub Pop. Suprisingly, there was a lot of Kim and a tiny bit with Matt (they were being interviewed together, but Kim did all the talking. Don't know when it's coming to your town, but definitely go see it. BTW, the distributor at the beginning of the movie was CFR, and their logo was a maple leaf, which would lead me to believe that the C is for Canadian, if that does anything at all for you... Jason ------------------------------ From: UnknownFan@aol.com Subject: chicago/east coast shows/gvsb/zep hey all-- i finally caught up on all of my sg mail. those posts about the chicago show had me smiling from ear to ear. i am so happy for you guys! but the best part was reading about the seth surprise--i nearly cried--and i don't even know any of you! the reviews got me totally pumped for the sg shows i am going to this week: dc on wednesday and atlanta on sat. i can't wait to meet everyone--esp those who have the pics and the tales from the frontlines. :-) two quick responses to others' posts: the seattle scene: girls against boys are from dc (i am proud to say) and record for touch and go (not sub pop), though they recently signed to geffen. the zep comparisons: can get out of hand, i agree, but fresh tendrils reminds me of kasmir, and i mean that in a good way--they are two of my faves ..i guess i like the eastern influence. finally, i want to welcome a new list member, my friend jacki, who is going with me to the sg patriot center show on wed. and hi to paul, the other congregator, who got me on this list a while back.... later, laura ------------------------------ From: gjw10@yoknapatawpha.pols.columbia.edu Subject: 2nd NYC show Last night's show at the Roseland was one of the strangest SG shows I've attended (this was my 6th). Chris had a cold and his voice was shot. He was a real trooper, though, and tried really hard. The band seemed to be, well, in a really goofy mood. Chris's raps with the audience were some of the wierdest (and funniest) I've heard. The rest of the band found them quite amusing as well. Feigning sincerity, he kept saying things like, "Tonight is really special for me. I'm going to remember this night. I'm not kidding. I really am." Ben had a smile on his face the entire night, rarely flipped off people, and only spit at the audience once. He kept making these really goofy gestures at the audience. Does anybody know what it means when he crosses his arms and wiggles his fingers? At one point during the show, Chris ripped his microphone from the chord and threw it into the audience. The last song of the set, Ben knocked over his speakers and then bashed his bass a bit. Chris then said, "I don't think he quite got what he wanted to get." After getting audience approval, he then smashed his black Telecaster over the trunk where Ben's speakers once sat, severing the neck from the body and then tossed the neck into the audience. Prior to the encore, Kim walked across stage holding hands with the drummer from Tenderloin (earlier the drummer sat in on Ty Cobb, with Chris announcing that he and the drummer were lovers). After the encore, Chris fell on Ben into Kim's speakers, knocking them over. They sort of laid on top of the speakers for a while the standard end-of-show feedback rang out--I couldn't really see what they were doing. Then Chris got up and threw his Les Paul into the audience as he walked off stage. Oh yeah, they played some music too. You already know what the set list was. I must say I found it terribly disappointing. They played nothing prior to BMF and they played my three least favorite SG tunes: "Spoonman", "Outshined", and "Black Hole Sun". I yearn for the days when "Beyond the Wheel" and "Gun" were part of the set list. Does anybody know why they don't play the old stuff? I'm interested to see if tonight's show will be as strange as last night's. I thought that the last night in NYC would be the night that they really pulled out all the stops, but I don't know if they can beat last night's show. Greg _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/ Gregory J. Wawro gjw10@columbia.edu _/ _/ Department of Political Science phone: 212/854-**** _/ _/ Columbia University fax: 212/222-0598 _/ _/ 741 International Affairs _/ _/ New York, NY 10027 _/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ ------------------------------ From: clmiller@mail.usachoice.net (Chris Miller) Subject: an unburdening in my hands Ok. . .so I had a screaming orgasmic fit in the middle of our local unfriendly Camelot store last night. I was wishfully paging through the all too familiar SG singles, "imports"ha ha, and regular stuff. I thought I knew the answer, stumbled on and all the store, turned around and freaking stared. I had found the Burden In My Hand single (part 2) in the regular POP cd section. Yippee-kye-aye-mutha-fu**a!!!! My employees (who were with me at the time) stared in disbelief and embarrassment as I began to shake with the excitement of having found a new Soundgarden experience to enjoy. The could have disembowled me and I STILL would have been on cloud 10! So anyway, here's what it's all about. The single, of course, is for Burden In My Hand, and also includes Bleed Together, and She's A Politician. PLUS. . .PLUS. . .PLUS!!! As if THAT didn't get my gizzard goin', there is a Chris Cornell interview from April 1996 with Tom Russell in (I'm assuming) Ireland. Hallelujah! Praise Soundgarden! There was also a Free poster of the band inside! Well whaddya know about THAT?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!??! The cover of it is available on the unofficial webpage in the images section. It is of the desert tree with the scratches on the side. Dear Heavens. . .it was great! ------------------------------ From: Mike Groark Subject: Brandies Show I currently have 2 tickets to Tuesday night's show that I have not been able to get rid of. If anyone from the list needs tickets let me know through private e-mail. Since it is on Tuesday, I can meet you w/tickets at the show. Face value of the tickets are $18 + $3.75 service charge.($22/ticket) Mike Groark ------------------------------ From: Mike Groark Subject: HYPE BOSTON LISTMEMBERS! Free passes to go see HYPE are available at Newberry Comics right by Tover Records. I got an e-mail saying I won tickets and I had to go pick them up at Newberry Comics. I get there and there is this stack of free passes. But you better get there early! Mike Groark ------------------------------ From: ShRooMGrLz@aol.com Subject: Tonights show cancelled?? I'm guilty of reading the AOL message boards again, kiddies. Word in the SG folder is that tonights show at Roseland has been cancelled because Chris is sick. Is this true... or are those little bastards just messing with our heads again? If he *is* sick enough to cancel a show... I wonder if they'll reschedule? (Please please please don't let them cancel any TX shows.) Hmmm... to bad I'm not in NY. I could open up a can of chicken soup for Chris... and then give him an ALL over body rubdown with that Vicks stuff. (Or maybe we could just skip the Vicks... that stuff is nasty. I think baby oil would make him feel better, anyway.) =) And don't think that I don't know what YOU perverts are thinking. Listen up!! I'm ONLY concerned for Chris' safety and well being!! I would *never* touch the man, unless it was for a darn good reason!! ;-) We want him well enough to finish the tour, RIGHT?!?!?!?! I'm just being a good fan. What can I say?? I'm nice like that. Heheheheh... Shroom "Shroom, are you sure that the doctor prescribed this whipped cream body wrap for my cold? And it has to be licked off, and reapplied every hour? Wow, these new age doctors are great!! You must be my most dedicated fan for offering to help me with this treatment. What can I ever do to repay you??" ~ Chris Cornell (Words not necessarily said in that order...) <~~~ my disclaimer ------------------------------ From: eliza Subject: RE: Tonights show cancelled?? Yes, IT IS TRUE.....my friends from NY just called....damn, flashbacks of '94 or what? - --eliza ------------------------------ From: overfloater@thenexus.com Subject: ok, i'm posting to the list. so sue me. umm... what EXACTLY is going on with soundgarden now? how sick, exactly, IS chris? shit... i want him to get better, because well, i have the flu myself, and it fucking sucks, but also, i'm supposed to see these guys on tuesday. i've been looking to this show for better than two months. sigh... i hope chris gets better. so if anyone knows if any OTHER upcoming SG shows are going to be canceled.. please let me know.. i'm driving about 160 miles on tuesday for this and i want to be sure there's going to BE a soundgarden show. sigh... ------------------------------ From: gjw10@yoknapatawpha.pols.columbia.edu Subject: 3rd NYC show Just got back from Roseland. Arrgggghhhh! Cancelled due to illness! Thank god I got a ticket for last night's show from a fellow SOMMSter (Thanks Cynthia). Let's all wish Chris a speedy recovery. They've got a few days of before the Brandeis show, so I doubt that one will be cancelled. Greg ------------------------------ From: endless_nameless@prodigy.com (GRRL NIKI FREER) Subject: Roseland #3?????????!!! AH! NO! SG cancelled their show in NY tonight?? CHRIS IS SICK?? NO! i am praying to everything that i believe in and even what i don't believe in because i want him to be better. the reviews from NY of last night's show said it was pretty crappy.... this happened in '94! no! i had a dream about this in august. chris got sick and then they cancelled the rest of their tour and then the worst happened... (yes, i had a dream that CC died...) but i KNOW i'm overreacting...i hope. call me a fucking freak, but i'm way scared. why did he have to get the flu!?! no! :( get better soon chrissy!! sniffle, whine, whimper... get better boy! and being sick myself..... . double ugh... mind riot. :~( ____ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ i'm tied within i'm luck's last match struck in the pouring down wind... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: searchlight soul they say... On Sun, 17 Nov 1996 overfloater@thenexus.com wrote: > umm... what EXACTLY is going on with soundgarden now? how sick, > exactly, IS chris? shit... i want him to get better, because well, i > have the flu myself, and it fucking sucks, but also, i'm supposed to see if it is something that is going to affect chris' singing (which I'm sure a cold/flu definitely would), then I think that the band/management will cancel as many shows as they can until his throat or lungs get better. I imagine that the band wants to give the best show that they can give, so if chris' voice or head aren't up to the challenge, then shows will be probably be postponed and rescheduled for later in the tour (sometime in december?). it would certainly be a pain in the ass for all concerned, and I truly feel for those listers who may miss them this time around, but considering his vocal problem of a couple of years ago it would be better for him and the band not to strain his voice. btw, I heard 'brewicide' for the first time this morning (thanks skinnys), and it is pretty cool. there is a real jungle sort of feel to it; it made me think of kim playing for a ministry-type band (drummer bill rieflin is from ministry?). like ray, I heard similarities between kim's playing here and on songs like 'blind dogs' and 'new damage', with a little 'rusty cage' noodling here and there. all in all, it is an excellent song, much much better than 'jerry garcia's finger'. there is also the added bonus of hearing jeff gilbert chug a beer halfway through the song (just when you thought it was going to end), and then being delighted by what I think is jeff relieving himself of the unwanted beer. if I ever see it cheap (cheaper than $30 at any rate) then I think I'll buy it just on the strength of that one track. let's hold hands and pray, sommsters, for more work from dark load :) ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide - words by kim thayil ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Ac71@aol.com Subject: 3rd NYC SHOW CANCELLED Hello All.... Well, I don't know if everyone's heard this yet.....but I'll just go ahead anyway......I was supposed to see SG @ Roseland in NYC Tonite.(sunday)...only to find out that the show was cancelled due to Chris having Bronchitis.......with no make up date rescheduled......I went friday so I'm happy that I at least saw them while they were here. But I was looking forward to seeing them again and it was a disappointment.... I suppose that this is going to halt the tour a bit..... HEAD INJURY ------------------------------ From: eliza Subject: "this next song is dedicated to Johnny Cash" yeah, that is what Chris said before Rusty Cage in Chicago... FYI, Johnny is going to be on Jay Leno on Tuesday night to promote Unchained....*maybe* he'll do Rusty Cage?!?! it'll be worth watching to see, just in case!! eliza, the dreamer ------------------------------ From: "Helsley, Scott" Subject: Motorcycle Loop I noticed that after the last song on Tad's Infrared Riding Hood there is about 4 minutes of material that sounds very much like motorcycle loop. Has anyone else noticed this? Does anyone else like Tad? Scott ------------------------------ From: surfpunk@walrus.com Subject: Roseland Saturday my experience Hi fellow Soundgarden fans, well first of all I had made some plans to meet some somsters before the show and I had trouble finding them at first but I eventually got up the courage to ask a few people sitting together who from my eaves dropping seemed to be the right people if they were there for the soundgarden show and they were of course. So we sat down and started to talk which was great because I usually end up going to concerts alone or with someone who is not as big a fan of the band as I am. I started to get really psyched for the show because the bar we met at had a great jukebox and they were playing loads of soundgarden and we all starting sing along and LOUDLY :). It was amazing to be sing with others who new the lyrics even better than I did (I usually do this alone and it feels kind of lonely) anyway I felt really good with everybody I met there which was great to so I'm really glad I met all of you Cynthia , Heather, Paul , and Greg? ( I forgot your name even though I know you unsubscibed for now I'm sorry) it felt great to bond and got me in the mood to rock. Well when we got to Roseland I was pleasantly surprised because after a run in with a very cold person at Roseland about seating since Cyn is disabled she is eligible for special seating well she got all five of us in with her (thanks so much Cyn !!!) so we were stage right on top of the speakers with a barricade between us and the moshpit which was great. So we had at least some room to dance with out having to worry about head injury, a great view of the stage and we could see the band go on and off stage. Ok now for the show itself they opened with Spoon and Searching as always on this tour but for me the show really started to Rock when they played Burden I just started to dance and shout with total abandon at that point and the show just heated up from there . I may not go chronoglicaly now btw, Chris did alot of bantering with the audience especially before my wave saying to us what every you wanna do is okay by me about three quarters of the way through the show he lost alot of his voice so when he was about to sing black hole sun he asked for help and we all sang along to help him out and I felt he really dug it he said he did at the end any way I know I did . Feeling like I could let go since I had comrades around me was amazing and no matter how well soundgarden played this made the show much better . I would say they played pretty much the same set they had been playing on the tour though they brought out the drummer from Tenderloin to play ty cobb which i thought was a really warm gesture and Chriss even apologized to him for having fucked up during song making him feel good because I guess he felt a little intimidated by the drum part he had to play for that song. They also brought out the singer for Tenderloin and he sang some song I don't think it was a Soundgarden song but I'm sure some else with have that info.The only downer the whole night was during Blow up when this one very wasted guy went under the barricaded and stood next to me which I just let go but he was very out of control and was falling on the others I was with and we finally ended up getting a security guard ( this one was very cool that was nice since alot of them can be very brutal) he got the guy to go back to where he had been previously away from us of course when got there he immediately fell on his face. Chriss's voice was really weak later on god I wonder how he will play tonite unfortunately I won't be there and I know some of the people I was with are there as I write this so I hope its a great show tonite and next time I'll get tickets for more than one show . Well that's one man's opinion . I have enjoyed reading about the chicago experiences as well as others just thought I'd throw mine in. And I also want to thank Seth for his amazing page and for his devotion to the list and the people on it for with out him I would not have gone or know about the shows or met the groovy people I did Surpunk(aka Carl) ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 2 Issue 308] ****************************************