From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Tuesday, 12 Nov 1996 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 02:47:31 EST Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Tuesday, 12 Nov 1996 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: holy shit i fondled chris' fork! Stop the chicago stuff...I am going to die here NYC! I need a ticket! WHAT TO SAY, WHAT TO SAY I WANNA GIVE A SHOT OUT TO...... Re: Just A Thought On Chris' Hair..... Record shopping. sitting here like uninvited company... JCP live from CHICAGO!!!!!!!!!! Great News!!! 10 TIMES BETTER THAN MTV!!!! Chicago Shows Chris says: happy birthday to me... Chicago SOMMSfest Rolling Stone, Detroit show Re: Singles. yet another survey Chicago...11/10/96...very cool! What's this? Chicago Trib Review Earplugs up your nose! Chicago shows chicago Crying and smilin Re: Earplugs up your nose! K.T.D.B(Kim Thayil Defense Brigade) Re: Earplugs up your nose! sounds like days... RE: Eavesdroppers? falling from composure... RE: What's this? RE: yet another survey RE: WHAT TO SAY, WHAT TO SAY CHICAGO SHOW!! (Yes, more) RE: holy shit i fondled chris' fork! RE: Chris's Hair The Chicago report Chicago show goers unimaginable luck RE: The Chicago report Re: Earplugs up your nose! Can-Con Sommsfest Toronto :-) Re: ultimate sg setlist People seen in Chicago SOMMSfest: Chicago Soundgarden Tickets (im)perfect analogies... Re: Earplugs up your nose! Re: Chicago Dedication *insanely jealous* - suicide note ;) Swallow My Pride Dogs being blind and such Re: true fan........? Re: People seen in Chicago Newly Damaged Album format. Commands from the man himself... brandeis show true fan........? Re: Record shopping. Chicago Dedication *insanely jealous* - suicide note ;) Re: true fan........? ------------------------------------------------------------ From: "Polly, Eliza" Subject: holy shit i fondled chris' fork! ok, this will be a summary of the BEST FUCKING NIGHT OF MY LIFE!!! i am too brain dead and deaf to go into more detail right now, but here ya go: Meeting the Sommsters at Moody's was awesome (i love you guys!!!)...and then the best surprise came...Erin from Silver Management showed up with *someone*...she walked over to us and said "hi I'm Erin and THIS IS SETH!!!!!" yes, the band flew him in for the show , gave him deluxe accomodations, and he surprised the shit out of us - it was awesome!!! ok, now onto the best thing EVER. When we got to the Aragon, we were each given an official Soundgarden Guest pass (which is never leaving my chest) Then Erin brought us backstage in 2 groups of 10. First we waited by the stage door cuz the guys were watching Tenderloin. When their set ended, the guys walked by and went upstairs to their dressing room - that would have been enough for me, to see them like that...but man was the best yet to come. We walked up to the dressing room, my legs were like jello. Kim came into the room first. He was not very talktative to our group - signed our stuff and walked away. But then the god himself, Mr. Cornell, walked into the room and was standing in front of me. I nearly died. I shook his hand and introduced myself...while holding onto his hand, I said "Thank you thank you...for 8 years i have loved and worshipped everything you have done." And Chris said "Everything? really? Some of it has sucked." That was too cool. Then he signed by BiMH poster, my BiMH single and we chit chatted. Hey Michele - i asked him about the BUGS on the official web site. First he said they mean nothing, then he smiled and said "Well, you are not allowed to know those secrets". Then Matt came in and the first thing he said was "Where's Seth?" Then he asked "So you are all on the list?" i said yeah and asked him if he was still reading it...he said "Yeah i check it out alot". He signed my BiMH poster right on his face, and added a silly smiley face. DeeDee asked straight out to Matt "Can I lick you?" We were dying ;-) He laughed and we talked more. I squeezed his bicep *sigh* and said "Keep reading the list - we are the true fans!" And he smiled and said Yeah, you are the real fans." Then Chris came back over and I asked how the tour was so far and I asked if I could see/touch the fork around his neck. He smirked at me and said sure. It was *really* cool up close. Then someone else must have mentioned licking to Chris, cuz he yelled over to Matt, "Hey Matt, did you get licked yet?" It was hysterical. There was more, but it is a blur. We took tons of pictures with them. Then we had to go. I was the last one out of the room, and went over to Matt and Chris and shook both hands again and said have a great show. I will NEVER NEVER EVER EVER forget that moment cuz they both just smiled at me and said Thanx so nicely and then Matt said have a good time and take care! I could not believe how incredibly sweet those two were - so very very normal and calm - it was almost too normal! And no, our group did not get to meet Ben...i asked Matt where he was and he said "he is in there tuning his bass and just being Ben." It was truly amazing....they were every bit as cool in person as i always hoped they would be....and chris was truly warm and outgoing and really seemed to care about us. He is just beautiful.... I won't even get into the show, cuz it doesn't compare to meeting them, but they ROCKED....Most everyone watched from the VIP balcony but DeeDee, Biff and I made it onto the floor and managed to stay *fairly* safe in the pit. Rusty Cage and OUtshined were the best, imho, as well as a cover of Helter Skelter and a big surprise of Drawing Flies...looks like they are playing different songs at each show on this tour! Who knows what tomorrow nite has in store!! They were having *alot* of fun during the show, watching Chris laughing and smiling was awesome...Ben flipped some people off...Matt just rocked out of control, and Kim brought his dad on stage to introduce him! Chris' voice was o.k. and no shirt came off (tho he pulled it up a few times so we could see his belly ;-) but it was a great show. Tomorrow night we are gonna try to get passes to the balcony and I will go that route next time. Gang,, it is totally impossible to describe in words what this night was like.....Dee Dee, Kathie, Jamie, TOni, Biff, Aaron, Ben, Seth, Kate, Gonzo, Vikki, Andrea, Bonnie, Joe, John, Rita, and everyone else i forgot, it was TRULY wonderful to meet you all and share this experience with you! Being able to thank Chris Cornell for his music was truly one of the most precious moments of my life - and they were soooooo cool!! Gotta go to sleep and get ready to rock again tomorrow night... My only wish is that everyone could know how this all feels!!! eliza, more obsesed with SG than ever (and i did NOT thnk that was possible!!) ------------------------------ From: Lee Christensen Subject: Stop the chicago stuff...I am going to die here Hey ya, Just read DeeDee's review...and OH MY GOD as well....please I don't think I can stand going through the rest of the reviews...AAAARRRRGGGHHHHHH 2 months till Soundgarden play here in Brisbane!!! Can I wait that long!!! No more no more I tell you..I am going to have to run around and let all this energy out!!! Amazing!! I am so glad it went awesome for you lot....and I do feel happy for the lot of you :) The big question!! Justin!!! how did getting tickets go this morning!!! I got to know now :) I'll mail you about picking them up.... I got to wait till Jan!!! ok deep breaths...... seeya you lucky ppl, (oh and thanks for the great review DeeDee it was awesome :) Lee _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ SONIC E-mail ar303921@student.uq.edu.au Turn it UP and Play it LOUD let the blood rush to your head!! I'm sorry I was cruel, I forgot to kiss you..... CD I'm listening to this week: "Milk" single by Garbage ------------------------------ From: "Gail Flowers" Subject: NYC! I need a ticket! Wonderful people of New York and the Tri-State Area. I need a ticket for the Roseland shows. Please, please, please if you have an extra ticket you'd like to get rid of, don't leave me to the mercy of the ticket scalpers, drop me a line. Thanks in advance, Gail gdflower@msn.com ------------------------------ From: "Joseph A. Burnett" Subject: WHAT TO SAY, WHAT TO SAY Ok....I'm sure enough people will have plenty to say, in detail, about the chicago show, so rather than clutter it up, I'll try to sum it up, and let the two-night people give you the whole low-down.......... Well, we met seth, which was cool.........very honored, to say the least. We got backstage, which was cooler.....the band was very laid back.....I asked chris if i could bother him for an autograph, and upon shaking my hand, he said, "no problem, man...." so, attempting to appear somewhat at ease with the fact that i was in THEIR presence, I said to him, "So you guys like jamming at the aragon" (considering the last tour came through here also), and Chris, looking right in my eyes, like a shamen or something, says, "I don't know, I don't really remember the aragon last time....." Very Morisson-esque quality about him (not that i knew morisson or anything) but he had a mysterious aura about him....he looks you right in the face, like he's analyzing every ember of your being......anyway, to keep it relatively short......chatted with ben for quite a while, all in all about 15 minutes in their dressing room.....got one of chris' guitar picks, and my badmotorfinger liner notes signed by the whole band. the show was fucking unbelieveable, they played almost everything, almost forever. They played "The End" by the Doors, which put a very ironic twist on my night, Outshined sounded unbelievable, and whatever...let everyone else have their turn.....It was an experience to say the least. A cool night with cool people and cool music......And I am unfortunately deaf, for that was the LOUDEST fucking concert I have ever been to....but hey, you gotta suffer for you love..... BIg JOe (That's Medium Joe to Moody-goers) TRying To gEt tHaT rIngiNg out Of mY EARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 - --------O But it all makes such Sense to me i need room to breathe I work for the goals that i set Wasted time it weighs on my mind You can bet I can't wait one minute more - -----CIV ------------------------------ From: "Joseph A. Burnett" Subject: I WANNA GIVE A SHOT OUT TO...... Thanks to Erin (who has about the coolest job, with the coolest head about it), Kathie for almost making me want to start writing to santa again (maybe he'll invite me backstage), her husband, a very understanding dead head who understands the concept of cultural relativism, toni for the brew dogs and takin' care of me, seth for being seth, ben and aaron for chillin' with me, and everyone else who made my experience unforgettable. OH, and one more thing....at the expense of lowering myself to the level of an immature, bitter person with a phat doc marten logo on her forehead, who reminds me of a junior high girl who justifies why she isn't dating the most popular boy by saying "He's ugly I didn't like him anyway", CARYN.........rip a joint or something, babe, 'cause you gotta chill!!!!!!!!!!!!Like Op Ivy stressed....UNITY.....you know about it, you thirty year old punk rocker, you!!!!L8RZ all BIg JOe - --------O But it all makes such Sense to me i need room to breathe I work for the goals that i set Wasted time it weighs on my mind You can bet I can't wait one minute more - -----CIV ------------------------------ From: KERAK Subject: Re: Just A Thought On Chris' Hair..... Date sent: 10-NOV-1996 21:39:45 >Hey All You Peoples Out There In SOMMSland, > I was just watching Louder Than Live and what caught my eye, other than >Chris' hair was long, was that Chris had a clean shave, and then I watched >JCP and he had his facial fuzz. I did like Chris' hair when it was long(and >it is a shame that he, a man, got blessed with such beautiful locks)and I >like it equally now that it is short(do you think he has to do anything to >get his hair to stand on end like that), but, to me, he looks most different >when he lacks his face fuzz. I don't know if anyone out there agrees but >that is just my opinion. When you just said that, it reminded me of a part in Wayne's World. It's where they were in the TV studio for Wayne's new show. Garth says: "We're looking down on Wayne's basement, only that's not Wayne's basement. Isn't that weird?" :) > Oh, the weirdest part about Louder Than Live is >when they are singing I Awake and Chris lies on the ground and Jason got on >top of him and they proceeded to do some really weird things. Icky. Now I've got a weird mental picture. :) > And for anyone >who has seen the Hands All Over video; what do you think of it? Give me some >input because I think it is a lame video concept. Well, if I look on the >bright side, you get to see: Chris swing his gorgeous locks around, the >whole band act like monkeys, them blow things up, and them break things. But >if I look on the downside(no pun intended): the video is really stupid. But >hey, who can complain as long as it's SOUNDGARDEN!! Am I right? Plus, they >have moved on to better video concepts. Sorry to ramble on!!!! BYE! Hugz & >Cyber Kisses!! :) Kim hated that video too. He said: "The video for this song was one of the lamest ever made. It really sucked." It sounds like a typical 80s metal video. Soundgarden deserved better than that. Later, Michael Apple 60C Wilson Hall SUNY Plattsburgh Plattsburgh, NY 12901 appl1115@splava.cc.plattsburgh.edu ------------------------------ From: KERAK Subject: Record shopping. Date sent: 10-NOV-1996 22:32:25 I went downtown today to look for Soundgarden records (and a new distortion pedal, but that has nothing to do with this conversation.) First I went to the mall... well both of them anyway. There were four record shops, and all they had were the LPs (Like Ultramega OK, Louder Than Love, Badmotorfinger.) Most of these were in CD format, which I hated, because I prefer cassettes. There was no vinyl anywhere. Then I went to Peacock record shop. (I get a discount there for being a college student. :) ) They had hardly any Soundgarden cassettes, but their CD selection was slightly better. That's where I got Songs From The Superunknown. I have the only copy of that CD left in all of the city of Plattsburgh. I was SO disappointed that I couldn't find any vinyl. If I could just get my mitts on Badmotorfinger/SOMMS or the vinyl Superunknown, I would be happy. All the record shop had was the vinyl copies of Pearl Jam's new album, Metallica: Load, and REM: New Adventures In Hi-Fi. What happened to all the Soundgarden records? I know they exist, because I hear about them all the time. Was a vinyl version of DOTU released? Also, does anyone know where I can get one of the color vinyl EPs? Later, Michael Apple 60C Wilson Hall SUNY Plattsburgh Plattsburgh, NY 12901 appl1115@splava.cc.plattsburgh.edu ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: sitting here like uninvited company... On Thu, 7 Nov 1996, Ross Filipek wrote: > I remember Matt saying Studio D is one of the best rooms in the world for > recording drums. I don't know where the guitars and vocals on > _Badmotorfinger_ were recorded, but I do know that all of the drum tracks > on that album were recorded there. which makes me think it was studio d which didn't quite work for the band. normally the drums are the first instrumented to be recorded, so if makes sense that they were recorded there and then the band moved back to seattle to finish the recording. does that make sense? ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide - words by kim thayil ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: KERAK Subject: JCP Date sent: 10-NOV-1996 23:32:32 Congratulate me everyone! I just learned how to play Jesus Christ Pose! Bah bah bah boom di yay! He's our hero, Mike A.!!!!!!!!!!! :) (Sorry, I'm just really excited. I've had the book for BMF for two years and JCP just clicked tonight. :) ) Later, Michael Apple 60C Wilson Hall SUNY Plattsburgh Plattsburgh, NY 12901 appl1115@splava.cc.plattsburgh.edu ------------------------------ From: Toni M Roark Subject: live from CHICAGO!!!!!!!!!! Somms group- This is Andrea & co. writing from Toni's pc. We've commandered it to post about what went down tonite. AAAAARRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!@!!! CHRIS DEDICATED A SONG TO US!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BLACK HOLE SUNNNNNNNN CC solo)!!!!!!!!! He said,"I'd like to dedicate this to the Sommsters-the fan club mailing list who traveled from all over the country to be here. (insert very LOUD screams.) They're the real true fans..." Needless to say-we're in a good mood. ;) Everyone got to go backstage & meet the band & Just about everyone got to go backstage while they played. They sounded great both nights. Meeting Seth was such a cool bonus. There's much to tell-but we're going to continue with our chicago celebration of everything that happened tonite. The indivdual posts will reveal all. PS- Erin is amazing (thanks again Erin). We're all so indebted to her & Silver management & the members of the band & Seth & Kathie for giving us this opportunity. They outdid themselves & it went beyond our wildest expectations. Later! ------------------------------ From: clmiller@mail.usachoice.net (Chris Miller) Subject: Great News!!! There is a site on the site for the Ultimate Band List. The site you will look for there is called CD NOW. This site (if you look for Soundgarden) will list all CD titles that they can order for you. They have BIMH, BHS, Pretty Noose, DOTU vinyl(which I love) and other pretty SG related merchandise. T-shirts, calendars, you name it, they usually have it. . .they can even list titles that are no longer available. Just thought someone might be interested! I SURE WAS! ------------------------------ From: "Polly, Eliza" Subject: 10 TIMES BETTER THAN MTV!!!! holy fucking god...i can barely write this...no words can describe it...this was the 2nd best fucking night of my life! highlights: I WAS ON STAGE FOR 2.5 SONGS!!!!! Erin brought us each back, one at a time, to stand in the wings and watch the show.... I got to be there for Boot Camp, RUSTY CAGE (DeeDee!!!!!), and half of Outshined. When Chris went to change guitars, he walked right towards me, pointed at me and smiled! Then Erin brought me over to be right behind Matt and watch him during Rusty Cage - the man rocks up close!!! He looked over at us and waved at me with his drumstick and gave me one of those smiles .....And Ben was flipping everyone off and even aimed one in my direction ;-) Almost as amazing as meeting them....watching them on stage was truly mindblowing. THEN, i get back up to the VIP balcony right as CHRIS DEDICATES A SONG TO US!!!!! Holy shit......All of a sudden he said something like "I want to dedicate this song to the Sommsfest - they are the fan club mailing list and they are the real fans" Then he pointed at the crowd and said "Well, you are real fans too but these people came from all over the country and this is for them, this is Black Hole Sun." AHHHHHHHHHHHHH In the middle of the show, he remembered US!!! Thanks Seth, for making us so memorable...meeting you was too cool for words ;-) It was the solo version of BHS, which made it even better, and as Andrea said afterwards "I think we all feel differently about BHS now!!!" On top of all that, as if that wasnt enough, i must say that the band KICKED MAJOR MAJOR ASS tonight!!! Last night was great, but it was a happy and fun show with Chris smiling alot.....tonight was a PISSED OFF show, so DAMN intense....they were all full of rage and played like i have never seen...Ben was out of control, kicking shit and knocking stuff over and he even spit on Seth ;-) Chris was so intense and he came back for the encore shirtless! Tonight I would say Slaves and JCP were the absolute best - so out of control. And they added in Mailman as an encore, which rocked. Chris almost fell off the stage and i *think* i got a picture of it...He told us he had a "swollen liver" hehe...He was hysterical - ranking big time on the Bulls and Michael Jordan and he ended the show with something about the 2nd coming of Christ?? On top of that, the Sommsters RULE!!!! You guys are awesome - i would not have wanted to share this with any other group of people *GROUP HUG AND SCREAM!* And finally, before I pass out from emotional overload, i want to say a HUGE and tremendous THANK YOU THANK YOU to Erin....she truly went way above and beyond what we all could have dreamed of....and all she was concerned about was whether WE were having fun!!! I was more than satisfied yesterday after talking to Chris for 10 minutes...and then we got to go on stage tonight...it was all amazing and thank you Erin for caring so much..... OK, it is getting frustrating trying to convey this in words.....my life will never be the same. Oh and if someone could write me and let me know if my post from last night ever showed up....i heard it did not make it as of today (?) - it was about my touching Chris' fork *deeeeep sigh* not yet believing we had a song dedicated to us, eliza, (obsessed devotee of ALL that is soundgarden...) ------------------------------ Subject: Chicago Shows From: Ben Timberlake Hey everyone, I know everyone who was at Chicago SOMMSfest '96 will post a description of events, so I'll add a couple personal notes. Well, first of all, it was just great to meet everyone and cool to see Toni and Rita again. I got to meet Kim's dad while we were up in the balcony. Kim brought his dad out on stage. Mr. Thayil said he didn't usually like to do that. He said he wasn't a big fan of the music, that it was too loud, but that he liked seeing his son play. He was a really nice guy. Kinda short for producing such large offspring. Maybe Kim's mom is really tall. Anyway, I thanked him for bringing Kim into the world and told him it was nice meeting him. Also, having learned from my awful lolla experience, I tried a different concert strategy than just hanging out up front. On Saturday night, I just hung in the balcony with other sommsters, which was a nice view, but not the energetic concert experience I knew I could have. So, Sunday night I started about midway back the hall from the stage (say, 50 feet). I worked my way up during the show, which wasn't difficult, because the crowd left large pockets of space. By the encores (Mailman, JCP), I was just a couple people from the front. I was squished and couldn't get my arms down, but for just two songs, that was fine. I tried to protect smaller people around me from some of the moshing. Actually, I have to say that there was a lot less moshing and crowd surfing than I expected, which was a GOOD thing. In fact, I was only kicked in the head once (It's kinda sad when you lower your standards, isn't it?). I was on the right side of the stage where Ben hung out most of the time. At the beginning of the show, Ben kicked a stage light in, I think because his cord got caught on it. He then knocked over a couple speakers and then stood on the speakers on which the knocked over ones had rested so that the techs couldn't put the ones he knocked over back up (does that make sense?). I also had a little staring match with him. I won, I think, but maybe he just got bored. Or maybe he was staring at some weaker soul who conceded victory. Suffice to say, It was a great two nights. I'll probably toss in more as people give their various reports of events. -- Ben Ben Timberlake Has anybody here got an Aardvark? Northwestern University Medill School of Journalism CUBS # 1479, 2947, 1109 ***btimlake@nwu.edu*** -30- http://pubweb.acns.nwu.edu/~bft718 "Feel the air now stumbling and wander in the moonshine." -- Chris Cornell, "Switch Opens" ------------------------------ Subject: Chris says: From: Ben Timberlake From Time Off: Jan. 12, 1994 Chris Cornell: "People will go meet their favourite rock star and that person will maybe be rude to them or be drunk or be acting in a way that they don't agree with or dislike and they won't like that artist anymore. I don't think that's fair. I don't think art has anything to do with the individual that creates the art as far as you have to agree with the person to like the art that person creates." (note: chris was discussing Charles Manson previous to this quote. It's on the web page if your interested ) I'm not necessarily agreeing with it. Just tossing in a band member's say via quoted material. Kinda fun, huh? -- Ben Ben Timberlake Has anybody here got an Aardvark? Northwestern University Medill School of Journalism CUBS # 1479, 2947, 1109 ***btimlake@nwu.edu*** -30- http://pubweb.acns.nwu.edu/~bft718 "Feel the air now stumbling and wander in the moonshine." -- Chris Cornell, "Switch Opens" ------------------------------ From: Luck's Last Match Subject: happy birthday to me... Um, first of all, i think Chris played guitar much better with longer hair. He can always wear a ponytail like on the picture inside UMOK. Secondly, thank you dee dee for spelling yall right! Someone else spelt it right as well on Saturday's digest. Yay!!!! what a birthday gift! Ok, how readily available is this details magazine thingy? and i don't want to reiterate a thread that should not be still beating us over the head, but about the lack of security thing: i saw athenaeum at the cradle sat night (they just signed w/ atlantic, yay!!!!)(the opening band, five eight, was really amazing. i had a six minute conversation w/ the guitarist about what kind of strings he used) and there was relatively no security there. the thing was--it wasn't needed! The crowd was respectful of the bands and everything you could ask for from a crowd--and although five eight could have inspired moshing, not enough people got their in time to see them. The place didn't expect anything to be out of hand, and therefore they didn't prepare for it. ok, that's all for today. i think. laters. -j "Stand up and everyone will see your holiness" -Soundgarden. ------------------------------ From: oponfam@cnsnet.com Subject: Chicago SOMMSfest Hopefully you aren't all sick of reading about Chicago yet, but you know how it is. I enjoyed the meeting at Moody's. Its really cool how when you meet people you've been writing to so often it feels really comfortable. I felt like I already knew everyone and felt perfectly comfortable (which for me is unusual when I meet new people). And Erin is really great. She did everything in her power to make this night a fun night to remember, and believe me we all will! I hope Seth writes a full account of all that happened for him. He's got some story! When we got to the Aragon we must have looked like a bunch of real newbies. Sure we've been to concerts, but this was a different routine. After being shuffled from window to door to window several times we finally got our passes. It wasn't that the people at the Aragon weren't helpful, it just seemed like they were irritated that we didn't know exactly what to do. I mean God, we were all so nervous! Anyway, we finally got our passes and then went to walk in. Most of us didn't want to take the passes off the backings and stick them to us because we wanted to save them. But, they made us put them on as we walked in. Then after we got in we stood around again like a bunch of nervous lost souls (it was pretty obvious that none of us had been through a "groupie" period). My husband finally had to go looking for the backstage entrance, but Erin found us and rushed us to where we had to be, telling us we were going to be meeting them in their DRESSING ROOM, reminding us that we needed to be respectful of their space because this wasn't something they did all the time. We were all so in awe of the whole situation that I'm sure none of us would have even thought of being disrespectful, but I guess you never know. This dressing room arrangement made me so nervous my mouth went dry! Erin took us backstage, where we had to wait for the first band to get off the stage (first getting to see OUR guys walk through the shadows to get to their dressing room) all the while staring at the sign handwritten on what looked like typing paper saying "Soundgarden dressing room" with an arrow pointing up the stairs (and yes, we even got pictures of that). Then we walked up the stairs and entered the dressing room. I was kind of disappointed at the way Kim just breezed through, but from where I was standing I could see further into the dressing room and could see him in there relaxing on a couch after he was done with us. But Chris and Matt - they were the absolute best. I always figured Matt as being super nice and he is, but Chris was a very pleasant surprise. He was very much at ease, and totally open and friendly. God he has beautiful eyes, so open and honest. Let me tell you my little moment of glory (thank you Dee Dee for letting us all tell our stories). Friday night I was grinding up the last of my Halloween pumpkins and had decided to make pumpkin bread. I had been wracking my brain trying to think of something to give the guys and then a light bulb went off - maybe they would like some homemade pumkin bread. My husband laughed, saying they'd probably throw it out, afraid of being poisoned. Well, I had the pumpkin bread in a gift bag (security really smirked at that) and after shaking Chris' hand and telling him how much I have always loved his lyrics and how much all of us appreciate Soundgarden's music (Vikki is right, he is a good listener, and was very patient with all of us) I said I had something for him and gave him the bag. He looked inside and I told him what it was and he looked up with a big smile on his face and said "Thank you, that is so nice" and I thought I would absolutely melt! After that I felt like a babbling idiot, but luckily he was moving on. Then I got Matt's autograph and I wanted to shake his hand but both our hands were full and I think he knew I wanted to shake his hand because we kind of went back and forth with our full hands until I finally grabbed the pen and said "Can I shake your hand?" and he smiled and said "Sure". I am still totally blown away at how great Chris and Matt were. I will never forget that. And it made me respect them even more. I really don't think Chris pays much attention to ANY of the web pages, though, because when someone (I won't give away Eliza's part) asked something about the official page he truly looked like he didn't know what anyone was talking about. And I agree with Dee Dee. Chris is definitely perfectly healthy. They all look great. God, just writing this I can feel the excitement all over again. They didn't have to be so nice (Kim and Ben certainly weren't). Watching the show from VIP seating was really nice, not only because I could actually see the band without getting pushed and shoved (I like to listen with my eyes closed at times, to just absorb it all, and getting shoved is a drag when you're lost in the music like that) but we could also see the whole crowd below us. At first I was scared for them, because it seemed like the entire floor was about to explode into a massive mosh pit, but I was impressed to see the crowd itself contain the moshers to two pits, near the center of the floor. People who wanted to just watch and listen were actually able to maintain the area immediately in front of the stage, and they just passed the body surfer's forward into the waiting arms of security, who put them down and sent them on their way. I was glad to be where I was, though, especially when Erin tapped me on the shoulder and told me to follow her. I passed Seth and he said "She's going to take you onstage" and I thought "Oh no, what does that mean!" Erin walked me up onto the side of the stage where the soundboard and extra guitars etc. are. Boy, the floor really vibrates! From where I was standing I could see Chris, Ben and Kim and got to see Chris do a cool monologue about pain (I would love it if someone got all or most of what he said) and then Erin walked me back a bit further so I could see Matt. This was really a cool thing for her to think of doing for us, but I felt totally out of place, until she walked me out and all these people are standing there at the barracades looking at me and wondering who I was to have had that privelege. Then I felt pretty cool. I haven't even mentioned the actual music yet. I have never seen Soundgarden do a better show. Chris was totally on, having fun, bantering with the audience. I am still in awe of his performance - it was incredible! I would have given anything to be able to videotape the whole thing. Even Ben smiled a couple times! He didn't seem as surly as he has at other shows. I haven't seen Soundgarden in concert since 1992 and in those four years they have grown amazingly as performers. This was definitely one of the best concerts I have ever experienced. And thanks to Erin and Silver Management I was able to do something I have dreamed of doing for so many years. And on top of it all I was able to do it with a truly great group of people. I will never forget this concert. Kathie ------------------------------ From: "Dan \"Pop-tart\" Hearsch" Subject: Rolling Stone, Detroit show okay, so what i am seeing here is that the shows have rocked, and that everyone getting to meet the guys has been really cool. that kind of surprises me (pleasantly, of course). i have some friends who just signed with epic, a band called Getaway Cruiser, and they are already a little sick of people coming up and meeting them and saying how great they are, yada yada yada. anyway, a few questions. there seems to be some disagreement, but is the floor general admission or no? are they using a bracelet system for those on the floor if it is, or is it relatively easy to get people down there? we have floor seats, but we have some friends who do not. also, is anyone else going to be in the floor area, or if not, and if it is possible to sneak people onto the floor, maybe we can set something up to get you down there. we have four tickets for the floor area, so maybe you can make it down with our ticket stubs or some such thing. innovation, lets think innovation. also, i was just reading the rolling stone with eddie "wuss" vedder on the cover, and i notcied in an early picture of pearl jam, both jeff ament and mike mccready are wearing SG shirts, although i can't tell which shirt ament is wearing. i know i've seen that graphic before. anyway, if anyone can answer any of these questions for me, i would appreciate it. http://pages.prodigy.com/hearsch/dan1.htm ------------------------------ From: Nancy E Meyers Subject: Re: Singles. On Sat, 9 Nov 1996, KERAK wrote: > Date sent: 9-NOV-1996 22:05:35 > Hi, again. > > I went to the mall today and got myself a copy of the Singles > soundtrack. It is SO good. :) I'm really glad I got it. > Birth Ritual is a really good song too. Too bad, SG didn't put it > on Badmotorfinger, because of the problems they had with the song > arrangement. > Okie, here's question for all of you: In Singles, when Soundgarden is > playing in the club, Chris looks really nervous. I noticed this also when > SG played Pretty Noose and BIMH on Saturday Night Live back in May. Does > he always look that nervous on stage, or was he just really conscious that > 20 million people were watching them perform? > I thought Chris did look nervous when he was on SNL. After he performed Pretty Noose he seemed to breath a sigh of relief. I taped the show and after watching it many times noticed that Chris puts his hand to his chest a gesture that seems to say "It's over. I got thru it without screwing up." I think he was nervous because SG rarely does anything on TV (except for MTV) and SNL is also live. I would be nervous too! I'll have to check out Singles again and see if he is also nervous there. Nancy > > > > > ------------------------------ From: Nancy E Meyers Subject: yet another survey With all the talk about the BUTOW video I wondered what everyone's favorite SG video is and what their least favorite SG video is? Also, to anyone who got to hear Chris on Rock 103.5 on Sunday, what did you think of the interview? I thought it was great. He was only on for 40 minutes or so, but there were no commercials and they only played one SG song. The rest was talk, talk, talk. (And yes, Chris does like to talk a lot. ) It was great to hear what exactly the BUTOW video was about directly from him along with hearing about their past and how success has been to the group. He should do more interviews like this. I always wondered in written articles about the band just how much they actually did say and what was edited out. I only wish they allowed some phone calls. I was all ready to talk to him. BTW, I am extremely jealous of all you people who got to go to the Chicago shows. I couldn't go and was very bummed out about it all weekend. I was feeling slightly better on Monday but when I came to school and read about how great the show was and getting to meet the group, well you made it even worse. Of course if I had met Chris I would have died, so at least I'm still alive now. ------------------------------ From: gwm@starnetinc.com Subject: Chicago...11/10/96...very cool! First, the setlist, favorites marked with a *: Spoonman-a great song to open with! *Searching With my Good Eye Closed *Let Me Drown-This is really where the crowd started going crazy Pretty Noose Burden in my Hand-showed the video(I think, wasn't really paying attention to it)on a screen behind *My Wave *Ty Cobb \ Never Named / announced these two with something like "Ok, we're gonna play Ty Cobb and then we're gonna play Never Named and that's the way it's gonna go!" Fell on Black Days Creatures (?)-announced it with "This is for all the little creatures out there" *Helter Skelter/Boot Camp-One of the most amazing things I've ever heard! *Rusty Cage-outstanding *Black Hole Sun (Chris's solo version)-dedicated to the SOMMSsters!!! *Outshined-amazing *Blow Up the Outside World-I cried *Drawing Flies-I was hoping they'd play this one and I got my wish! Dusty-way better than the album version, with some cool psychedelic images on the video screen *Slaves and Bulldozers-great improv in the middle - --------------------- Encore: *Mailman-OH MY GOD!!! *Jesus Christ Pose-amazing drum solo by Matt leading into the beginning Ok, now that that's over with, here's my review (I did take pictures from really close up): About 2 hours before I left, I checked my mail and found out we were going to get backstage passes for the Sunday show too!(I didn't go to the saturday show, so I almost wet my pants!) When I got to the Aragon, I went to the will call office and they told me to go to the guest list lady. So I went to her and asked her for my backstage pass, and she didn't have any of the Sunday SOMMSsters on the list (I had met up with Andri at this point). I knew something would go wrong like that, not criticizing Silver Management, just criticizing my luck. So I brushed it off feeling happy that I would still be able to see Soundgarden. We got into the ballroom and went to a fairly close position to the stage, dead center. We met a lot of people while waiting for Tenderloin to come on. When Tenderloin came on, I thought it was Blues Traveler! Their lead singer looked just like him when I first caught a glimpse of him. Then, after a while, he reminded me of the fat kid in the movie, 'The Sandlot'. I took like 2 or 3 pictures of them. Overall, Tenderlion was pretty annoying, especially when the singer took his shirt off and started posing his obese body in the spotlight! I got pictures of that! And for one of the last songs that Tenderloin did, Ben Shepard came on stage and played guitar. Next up was Rocket From the Crypt. When they came on stage, I knew I was doomed! They all came out in these shiny matching outfits. I couldn't stand these guys. None of them took off their shirts like the Tenderloin singer, which, in fact, I DIDN'T LIKE! But I didn't really like their style that much. Right after Rocket left the stage, everyone started pushing towards the front. It was mainly these two big guys that were total drunk idiots pushing everyone around so they could get a space for them big enough to fit their huge beer bellies! It was getting tighter and tighter and finally, Soundgarden took the stage. I was about five rows back from the front right in between Kim(sproting a Corrosion of Conformity shirt) and Chris(wearing a plain white t-shirt). When they opened with Spoonman, the crowd went wild. There was a big mosh pit right next to my friends and I so we made our way to the guard rail a few feet away from us (it was tough!). In the middle of SWMGEC, my friends couldn't take the squish anymore, so they left, but I stayed. Let me Drown trough Never Named was the height of the squeezing, but I stayed through it with my lifelong companion, the guard rail. I had a great spot and could see everything. When they announced they were going to play Ty Cobb and Never Named, I was like 'Oh no, I know I'm not going to survive!' But I did. Anybody know what that Creatures song was? Boot Camp was one of the best! I loved singing along to Helter Skelter. It was a great improv in the beginning leading into the song. My total total favorites of the night were Drawing Flies, Mailman, and Jesus Christ Pose. I sang along with every song, even though it's hard to do it with Chris! And guess what for all you woo girls?! (shroom specifically ;)) Chris revealed the mighty chest for the encore! I actually liked the security guards there. They were doing the best job they could do. They gave us lots of water when we needed it, and one security guard was nice enough to take a few pictures for me really close. I thought he was taking it away from me, but he was really cool! Finally, near the end, somebody got so mad that he punched the beer belly guy that I talked about before that was pushing everyone around! Kudos to the guy who did it! The 6'5" beer belly pussy didn't even fight back! He stopped pushing after that. So, after I develop my pictures, I'll tell you guys and I will put them on my web page. This concert was one of the most amazing ones I've been to. I have to give a great thanks to Kathie and Erin (who I talked to for like 5 seconds after the show)who tried to get the Sunday-only SOMMSsters backstage, it was a good effort, but it just didn't pull through. I would have loved to meet Soundgarden, but I am still happy with what I recieved yesterday night-an awesome concert that I will never forget. Dave Miller ********************************************* *I like to trade bootlegs. * *Check out my Pearl Jam homepage at: * *http://pwp.starnetinc.com/gwm/pearl.htm * *You can find my bootlist there * *PEARL JAM AND SOUNDGARDEN RULE! * ********************************************* ------------------------------ From: KERAK Subject: What's this? Date sent: 11-NOV-1996 13:45:53 What's this about Kim not talking to you guys at the Chicago concert? Was he ill of something? I have trouble seeing Kim do that. Ben, sure, but Kim... that's strange. Maybe it was because his dad was there and he didn't want any distractions. I'm glad that all you guys didn't act like total fanboys in front of Chris and Matt. It sounds like they were really nice and patient. :) Too bad I couldn't go. But that's what you get when you are a poor college student. :) I'm glad that all you guys had a lot of fun at the concert. Maybe I'll be able to catch a show when they come up to Canada (it's only an hour away from here.) Does anyone know if they are playing Montreal? And, if so, when? Later, Michael Apple 60C Wilson Hall SUNY Plattsburgh Plattsburgh, NY 12901 appl1115@splava.cc.plattsburgh.edu ------------------------------ From: "Anna Mehrer" Subject: Chicago Trib Review The following is a review from Nov. 11, 1996 Chicago Tribune: "The most headbanging of the major bands to emerge from Seattle in the = early 90s, Soundgarden's success has rested on its ability to rework = familiar Led Zepplin and Black Sabbath formulas with economy, smarts and = introspective tunefulness. At the first of two sold-out Aragon shows, = however, the band's heavy metal thunder weighed down its songs, helped no = doubt by the hall's notoriously muddy acoustics. The buoyancy of 'Dusty' = was reduced to a careening lurch, and band leader Chris Cornell tossed = off an unaccompanied, incomplete version of the band's biggest hit, = 'Black Hole Sun.' Soundgarden instead fell back on sludgy, lumbering = riffasaurs ('Outshined') and bombing raids ('No Attention'). Cornell = mixed stentorian vocals and howls of rage while Kim Thayil added wiggy = guitar licks, and Ben Shepherd and Matt Cameron provided rhythmic wallop. = --Kevin McKeough" Hmmmm--too bad I was unable to go to the Chicago show(s) to agree or = disagree. What do you sommsters think? (Though I have more faith in the = band than in a Trib critic). - --Anna ------------------------------ From: Greg Fox Subject: Earplugs up your nose! I just saw the Hype! soundtrack, and bought it. It is just awesome. It is well worth any cost. I have a few questions though. How many bands have played or recorded "Swallow My Pride"? Which was the first band to record it? Anyone else feel that the overall sound of Hype! sounds a lot like the Sub Pop 200 collection? Also, when was the Self Pollution Radio Broadcast? I guess I am done now. Oh yeah, I got my ticket for the Vancouver show, and I will be counting down pretty soon. Yay! Later. Greg =-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-= |That damn polyphasic frog |Beliefs are Dangerous | | rototillered my beets again! |Beliefs allow the mind to stop functioning.| +-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-|A non-functioning mind is clinically dead. / |gfox@uvic.ca |Believe in nothing ... / |http://gulf.uvic.ca/~gfox \ -Tool from insert to Aenime / |http://www.islandnet.com/~combine\ / =-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-/ ------------------------------ From: Andrew Christensen Subject: Chicago shows Hi, like i said i'm pretty new here so i didn't get to be in on the whole backstage deal but the shows were incredibly anyway. Seth, that was YOU who got spit on while taking the picture on Sunday? I was the guy who said "You're so cool!" and patted you on the back. Man! i am totally in love with Ben Shepherd now! The first night was a great show, i made Ben laugh because i was smiling at him and he smiled and then i made kind of a "Hater" face and he laughed. So i left thinking i was all cool. BUT! The second night i decided to go even further to the right (i got in line about four both nights so i could be up front, but the first night got kind of pushed a little back) and i HELD ON to the bars standing by my little brother and we didnt' let bad mean people push us away. we froze our tushies off to stand where we were! :) but Ben remembered me! he pointed and smiled and stuff. i know that all sounds kind of cheezy but THIS is not: when chris threw out these t-shirts (stupid mancow 103.5 shirts i thought they were the soundgarden caricature shirts) and i didn't get one i looked up and saw that ben was looking at me and i kind of shrugged my shoulders and made an "oh well" face and he laughed and then went back and picked up a shirt and handed it right to me! when everyone grabbed at it he pointed right and (sorry, pointed right at) me and said that's for you! i was so so happy! then at the end of the song (outshined) he leaned about five feet over just to shake my hand! i was so ecsatic because i have been a huge ben fan ever since i realized that he wrote the coolest songs in the band and was in hater which is my second favorite band ever right under sunny day real estate and right past soundgarden. Ben sat there with his hand out waiting patiently for me to reach out and finally be able to grab his hand! it was like he actually liked me or something! :) that was my coolest concert experience ever, and then watching ben knock over that speaker that was taller than he was and totally make fun of the huge bouncer who got scared out of his mind when if fell. it was awesome. and he played bass for an entire song using only his middle finger! i always thought it would be so cool to see him so close and it really was. he kept marching around swinging his entire legs up over his waist like jack pumpkinhead in "a nightmare before christmas" so much fun, so much fun. and he came out and played with tenderloin the second night when people started being mean to them. i completely disagree with anyone who says he is a jerk at concerts! the rest of the band was awesome too i think they just made slaves and bulldozers my favorite song after that sunday night version! alright thanks for reading this sorry i couldn't meet all of you and seth if that was you then i'm glad i kind of got to meet you! i love you all. andrew ------------------------------ From: CAMPBELLCG@bvu.edu Subject: chicago Hey everybody, guess who I got to meet this weekend....SETH!!! oh yeah, I got to meet Soundgarden too. Just kidding! I only got to go to the sat show, but that was more than enough. NW Iowa is a long ways from Chi-town. First I wnat to say that meeting the other SOMMSters was the awsome. Just that we can all come together like that and act like we've known eachother for ever is the coolest. Also huge thanx to Erin, 'cause my dumb ass didn't have ID and left his damn t-shirt in the dressing room 'cause he had his head up his ass. Also thanks to Kathie (need I say why?) and Aaron and Eliza for keeping me off the street. But DeeDee, Ben, John, Eliza, Kathie, Jamie, Gonzo, Big Joe, the Seattle coalition, everybody (sorry if I forgot, it's been a long weekend), and most especially Seth, you guys are too cool!!! SOMMS kicks ass! I don't have any cool stories about the dressing room except for being laughed at about being from Iowa, and I'm almost positive I saw *someone*, but I forget who, slip Matt some contraband in a little napkin. The whole thing was too awsome, words are hard too find. The floor was rough but some of us (huge thumbs up too DeeDee and Liza) braved it and returned alive and almost unscathed. Chris was really wound up, that was cool 'cause we usually don't see that side of him. Everything was really cool, but I gotta say, next to meeting the band, Moody's was the best. Just to meet you all, and see your faces made my weekend. If you were there, lucky you. If you weren't you'll get your chance. See you all later. Biff the most lucky youngster(ha) in the state ------------------------------ From: atnadzri@vax1.tristate.edu Subject: Crying and smilin "This next song..we wanna dedicated to the SOMMsters..they're a group of fans who come from all over to see our shows..this one's called Black Hole Sun.." Chris Cornell, Aragon Ballroom, Nov 10 I can't belive it when i heard it.....I was right in front of the stage when he said those words I mean..Chris acknowlege s us..SOMMSTERS!!!! Anyway..i'm a little tired after driving for 3 hrs.Herer's abrief chronology of yesterday's event. 6.30 pm:Standing outside Aragon..freezing 6.45:Meet Dave Miller..both of us went to the Guest list booth....asked about the SOMMs list The security officer denied us entry.."No..i dont have u guys on the list..sorry..we dont have the SOMMs list..." 6.50:went inside.Dejected.FrustatedAsked if Dave spotted anyone wearing a SOMMs tee. This cannot be happening.FElt like shoutin Eliza's or toni's name so that maybe they'll hear me. 7.15:Hung around at the lobby to see if i could spot someone with a SOMMS tee. 7.30:Tenderloin played.I wast intrested.Went around the place.Still hoping. RFTC played.I gave up.went to the front row.if i wont get to see the band in person,at least i'll see them in front of me.took pics. alot of them. my dissapoitment dissapeared once the opening riff of Spoonman appeared. A great show..a little short..but a great show..BUTOW was ...beautiful.. 12.20:made my way home...Eventhough i did not get to meet the band..it was still an amazing experince...Maybe next time..maybe To Kathie.... Thanx a lot for everthing u've done.And thanx to your hubbie too for the directions. Sorry i couldnt make it to see you all. To Toni.... Soory bout the phone no..yep..i gave a wrong one...anyway..thanx for calling.. i'm abit sad i did not get to meet u guys. To Dave Miller.... Remember me?we were at the guest booth together..u were wearing a pearl jam tee... Did u get inside? To everyone else who was there..hope ya all had a great time.....i did.. soory for the long post...i''l talk later..tired.... Andri ------------------------------ From: MICHAEL APPLE Subject: Re: Earplugs up your nose! Date sent: 11-NOV-1996 16:46:20 >I just saw the Hype! soundtrack, and bought it. It is just awesome. It is >well worth any cost. I have a few questions though. How many bands have >played or recorded "Swallow My Pride"? Which was the first band to record >it? Anyone else feel that the overall sound of Hype! sounds a lot like the >Sub Pop 200 collection? Also, when was the Self Pollution Radio Broadcast? >I guess I am done now. Swallow My Pride was first performed by Green River. I think it's been played by three bands: Green River, Soundgarden, and The Fastbacks. I can't seem to find Sub Pop 200 anywhere. :( THe record shops around here suck. I can't find Hype either. The movie isn't showing around here. Later, Michael Apple 60C Wilson Hall SUNY Plattsburgh Plattsburgh, NY 12901 appl1115@splava.cc.plattsburgh.edu ------------------------------ From: Toni M Roark Subject: K.T.D.B(Kim Thayil Defense Brigade) At 01:49 PM 11/11/96 -0500, you wrote: >Date sent: 11-NOV-1996 13:45:53 >What's this about Kim not talking to you guys at the Chicago concert? Was >he ill of something? I have trouble seeing Kim do that. I haven't got my review of the weekend together yet BUTT I did need to speak up for Kim. Yes, he did come and go quickly but he did sign everything that everyone gave him, he did let me take his picture(I asked first believe me!!) and he even made small talk with me about the name I asked him to sign on my paper. He had family in the back of the dressing room which he returned to after he signed everything. Also, this weekend was Diwali which is a holiday for Indians...prehaps kim doesn't celebrate but his family might and he was visiting and being festive with them. So I don't begrudge him for not staying as long as Chris and Matt!! At least he came out........ more later. Oh Goody!! you're all saying more Chicago gushing....damn straight!!!!!!! toni ------------------------------ From: andrew christensen Subject: Re: Earplugs up your nose! On Mon, 11 Nov 1996, Greg Fox wrote: > I just saw the Hype! soundtrack, and bought it. It is just awesome. It is > well worth any cost. I have a few questions though. How many bands have > played or recorded "Swallow My Pride"? Which was the first band to record > it? Anyone else feel that the overall sound of Hype! sounds a lot like the > Sub Pop 200 collection? Also, when was the Self Pollution Radio Broadcast? > I guess I am done now. > > Oh yeah, I got my ticket for the Vancouver show, and I will be counting > down pretty soon. Yay! Later. > > Greg I always thought that was pretty cool about "Swallow My Pride", i know Green River had two separate versions of it (one on Come on Down and the other on Rehab Doll), then there is Soundgarden's version (of course) and the Fastbacks (on Sub Pop 200) and there is also this version with some of the members of Mudhoney and Pearl Jam after Green River broke up, this live version that is on last year's pearl jam christmas single. And that demo or whatever is on the Hype! soundtrack. i think that is one of Green River's best songs. ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: sounds like days... On Thu, 7 Nov 1996, Helsley, Scott wrote: > survey. Basically what I want to know is: if SG played a live set of 15 > songs, which ones would you want to hear? I will compile the results and > post them at a later date. Here is my list (in no particular order): 1. one of the best that I can come up with is the one I actually saw them perform here in 1994. on january 20 of that year at the roxy in brisbane, soundgarden played in no particular order: jesus christ pose, slaves and bulldozers, I awake, flower, incessant mace, hands all over, gun, rusty cage, get on the snake, spoonman, mind riot, fell on black days, swmgec, room a 1000 years wide, hunted down and somewhere. have any listers been witness to a better set than that? I felt it was a particularly good one because they played stuff from all their records; some of which they haven't performed for a *long* time. there could be a couple of reasons why they did so (first ever show in australia; first show of 94 world tour), but whatever the reason, it certainly made for a great show :) ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide - words by kim thayil ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: eliza Subject: RE: Eavesdroppers? Hey folks - back to the real world, and I am still sick to my stomach from the whole thing.....i have never had such an emotionally draining day as today, driving back from Chicago after the most amazing few days ever.....Everytime I hear Soundgarden now, I cry!!! Anyway, on to the post below.....if you guys read what happened to me in the room with the guys, I mentioned that I asked Matt about the list.... He said he checks it out "alot" - in fact, he knew some people's names because of it...we all knew he had read it in the past but didnt know if he still was, and so I asked. When I left I told him not to give up on reading us, and he said he wouldn't, that he gets a total kick out of it and said "And then I get to meet you people!".........and yes, Chris didnt even know what the bugs were on the official page - he is not into it. But obviously they still care enough to do all they did. We got the red carpet treatment and I don't think it will ever quite sink in....THANK YOU EVERYONE!!!! >Matt has been known to read through the digest archive on Seth's site. Apparently he loves Seth's site. ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: falling from composure... On Mon, 11 Nov 1996, Nancy E Meyers wrote: > Also, to anyone who got to hear Chris on Rock 103.5 on Sunday, what did > you think of the interview? I thought it was great. He was only on for > 40 minutes or so, but there were no commercials and they only played one > SG song. The rest was talk, talk, talk. (And yes, Chris does like to talk > a lot. ) It was great to hear what exactly the BUTOW video was about > directly from him along with hearing about their past and how success has did anyone record this interview? and if you did, mayhap you could transcribe it for sgi.net? ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide - words by kim thayil ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: eliza Subject: RE: What's this? >What's this about Kim not talking to you guys at the Chicago concert? Was he ill of something? I have trouble seeing Kim do that. Ben, sure, but Kim... that's strange. Maybe it was because his dad was there and he didn't want any distractions. Yes, i definitely think it was because his family was there....it was much more than his dad - lots of friends and family cuz he was in Chicago....He was the first one out, so he was not AT ALL rude, he just was hurrying to go deal with his family. He talked to the second group more. As for Ben, well he was not in a social mood for our group, but hung out with the 2nd group so who knows? i think he is psychic, somehow he knew the second group was full of all the Seattle people who were at the Hater show and wanted to talk to him about it!!! (i'll save that scoop for them ;-) >I'm glad that all you guys didn't act like total fanboys in front of Chris and Matt. Um, i don't think anyone would guess we would have.....we all love the band for some very deep reasons - not because they are teen idols and we are star struck.....The Chicago Sommsfest consisted of some of the most wonderful, mature, devoted, and AWESOME people I have ever met, and i think that is why we continued to get the amazing treatment we got.....I hope that *noone* on this list would be a psycho fan in front of this band - they are WAY too cool and normal and nice and they deserve and command a TON of respect........ if you treat them well, they (obviously) treat you well back,,,, Counting down the days till D.C. to do this all again! eliza ------------------------------ From: eliza Subject: RE: yet another survey >Also, to anyone who got to hear Chris on Rock 103.5 on Sunday, what did you think of the interview? I thought it was great. Actually, I thought it kind of sucked.... I didnt learn anything that I hadn't heard already. It did NOT suck because of Chris - I would listen to him talk about anything. But the interviewer was horrible and I think we heard more about HIS life than Chris' life!!! Actually, last night Aaron and I were sitting in the balcony and he was sitting next to the woman from A&M Records who had taken Chris around to the interview. She said that Chris had said that the guy was "dumb". I thought that was funny - and then found out that the guy was sitting right there!!!! The only thing I thought was interesting was that Chris said he is currently reading "tragic rock stories" on the road.... ------------------------------ From: eliza Subject: RE: WHAT TO SAY, WHAT TO SAY >Very Morisson-esque quality about him (not that i knew morisson or anything) but he had a mysterious aura about him....he looks you right in the face, like he's analyzing every ember of your being...... Yessssssss, Medium Joe ;-) I was thinking somewhat of the same thing...the way he looks at you when you talk to him is truly fascinating....kinda ripped my gut in half. The eye contact during our conversation is still haunting me..... Forgive all the posts gang, but i have a zillion messages and am still so geared up! ------------------------------ From: Lauren Simonis Subject: CHICAGO SHOW!! (Yes, more) First I must say that I was really worried about going to the show on Sunday night once I found out (at 4:00 that afternoon) that I would get to meet SG because I had no clue how I was going to know who anybody was or anything. I have to say that all the SOMMStersI had the pleasure of meeting were really sweet and much cooler than I ever could've imagined (including SETH). Next I must thank Erin because she took me back Sunday night BY MYSELF to meet the band. I had them ALL TO MYSELF!!!! And thank you to Vikki for letting be borrow her camera. I owe you one! I am still in a daze and I was so honored that Chris dedicated BHS to US!!!!! He's the coolest (although I thought he was gone after he fell over the speaker during Ty Cobb). I'm sure you'll hear all the details, but I just HAD to mention that I met them all by myself (with Erin of course). (And I was dubbed "THE fan" of the night). Still in a daze . . . - -Lauren ------------------------------ From: eliza Subject: RE: holy shit i fondled chris' fork! i am ding dong.....after all that, i realized i didnt tell the part about the fork - AAAAAH! Here is that scoop, for anyone who can still bear to read about this weekend: When talking to Chris I was staring at the fork for about ten minutes - it was half under his shirt and half sticking out. I was dying to see it up close but too chicken shit to ask. Then at then end, I had about 1 minute alone (it could have been 10 seconds or 10 minutes - i lost all concept of time) with Matt and Chris (I just stood there, ignoring the guy who told us it was time to go) and we were chatting about the list and the show, etc. and I asked Chris if I could see the fork. Dont worry everyone, it was very respectful - i told him that I always thought it was so cool looking in pictures and wondered what it looked like up close and after so much wear and tear. He said "Sure" and smiled a huge and beautiful smile. So I held the fork in my hand and looked at it - it was SO cool. I was so touched as to how warm and open and friendly he was - i expected him to be more of an introvert in a one-on-one situation and he really made me/us feel like we were old friends! ..! .. still completely floored and missing the Chicago sommsters already :-((( eliza ------------------------------ From: eliza Subject: RE: Chris's Hair >After being right next to him last night I can tell you he is just fine the way he is. Yes ma'am, i agree (hi kath!!!!!!).....i had a hard time adjusting to the short hair - such a very different look and style. HOWEVER, after standing there and staring at it and then seeing him perform the way they are now and the songs they are writing now, it absolutely fits - the man is absolutely fine the way he is ;-) eliza, who may stop posting soon ;-) ------------------------------ Subject: The Chicago report From: seth As most of you know by now, I flew to Chicago this weekend to catch both shows and join SOMMSfest '96, thanks to Silver Management. It was great meeting everyone and the experience was unforgettable. I'll try to keep this short, since you've already heard most of the details from other people who were there. November 09 - ----------- I updated the Web page at 3:30am, hoping to reinforce the fact that I wasn't going anywhere so it would be a surprise when I showed up at the gathering. I flew to Chicago later that morning and met Erin at her hotel in the early afternoon, since we were going to show up at the gathering together. I saw Kim and Ben in the hotel and said hello. I think (hope) the surprise worked well when we got the Moody's pub, and I had a great time talking to the list members there. Meeting the band was really cool. Apparently Ben wasn't around for the first group that went upstairs, but he was there for the second group, and so was Kim, though not for very long. Kim walked up, extended his hand, and said "I want to thank you for your accuracy." I asked all 4 band members to sign my Pretty Noose 7" for my brother, which they all did. I got a chance to talk to Matt for a few minutes about the Hater Web page and stuff and I spent the rest of the time running around the room taking pictures of everything (forgetting that one whole wall of the room was a mirror, so I'm sure a whole bunch of my photos are just going to be bright white). Kim left pretty quickly, because as someone else pointed out, his father was at the show. All 4 guys were really nice and I think they signed everything that we brought. After all 20 of us had met the band, Erin gave us the option of watching the show from the balcony to avoid the scene in the pit, which most of us chose to do. She then went far beyond what any of us expected and brought each of us down to the right wing of the stage to watch a few minutes up close. If there's one thing this weekend taught me, it was that the management really does care about the fans. I don't think ay of us expected to be treated as well as we were. The show was amazing. Since the only times I've seen SG prior to Saturday were when they opened for GN'R in 1991 and at Lolla this past summer, the contrast between those shows and this one where they were the headliners was incredible. The sound in the Aragon is horrendous, but the music made its point. All of the guys were really into it, with Ben swinging his bass around like a madman and even Kim moving around and striking some Guitar God poses. The set list was (and I copied most of this from the set list taped to one of the cases when I was on the side of the stage): Spoonman Searching With My Good Eye Closed Let Me Drown Pretty Noose Burden In My Hand My Wave Ty Cobb An Unkind/Never Named Fell On Black Days Waiting For the Sun/Helter Skelter Boot Camp Rusty Cage Black Hole Sun Outshined Blow Up The Outside World Drawing Flies Dusty Slaves & Bulldozers - -------- No Attention Jesus Christ Pose Before Blow Up The Outside World, they show a film with images that I guess are from the video (Mother, Father, Country, Love, Enemy, Happiness, Me). Boot Camp starts with a long jam. The highlight of the show for me came during one of the songs from BMF, I believe (I don't eve remember which one, though) -- Kim, Chris, and Ben all jumped and landed on the beat together in what looked like a perfectly choreographed move. There was a lot of friendly talking and grinning on the part of Ben and Kim, who just seemed surprised that the crowd was enjoying the show so much. Great show. November 10 - ----------- I showed up to the venue early and caught a few minutes of the sound check, including a *thundering* version of Mailman (nobody in the hall to absorb the sound), which I was hoping they would play later. Chris also played through a few seconds of the openings of Burden In My Hand and Black Hole Sun. Erin told me that the guys were more subdued on the bus on the way over to the Aragon than they were the day before, so I assumed the show would be slightly less intense. Boy, was I wrong. Their set was *superb*. They tore through virtually the same set as the previous night (with a few changes; see below), but the energy was much higher. I had a photo pass for Sunday night, which meant I could shoot from the space between the stage and the rail holding the crowd back for the first 4 songs (I shot 47 frames; hopefully, some of them will come out, though I wasn't allowed to use a flash, so we'll see what happens. If I get approval from the management, they will be on the Web page.). And yes, that was Ben spitting on me. I looked up at him and he just grinned and spit at me (he missed). The set list for Sunday's show (which is not exactly what was on the printed set list): Spoonman Searching With My Good Eye Closed Let Me Drown Pretty Noose Burden In My Hand My Wave Ty Cobb Never Named Fell On Black Days Boot Camp Rusty Cage Black Hole Sun Outshined Blow Up The Outside World Drawing Flies Dusty Slaves & Bulldozers - -------- Mailman Jesus Christ Pose They were absolutely fucking *AMAZING* Sunday night. Highlights: * Ben putting his bass down and *tap dancing* in the middle of one of the songs. No explanation. He's crazy. :) * Ben toppling two of the 8-foot venue speakers and standing in their place so the crew couldn't stand them up again. * Ben hiding down behind the toppled speakers during the intro to Jesus Christ Pose, holding his bass like a machine gun. * The 10-minute jam in the middle of Slaves & Bulldozers. Amazing. * Chris telling the crowd to yell "Soundgarden are cocks" and "Seattle basketball sucks" and then replying with "At least our players don't appear in movies with cartoon characters." The true highlight of the weekend for me was watching Matt from the stage on Suday night -- Matt has cymbals roughly arranged (from his perspective) at noon, one, two, and three o'clock, and I was standing at about 2:30, watching his every move. I've never seen anyone stare at an instrument they way he stares at his cymbals. During Blow Up The Outside World, which I previously thought had a pretty simple and uninteresting drum part, Matt showed such poise and restraint that I nearly fell over anticipating each crash. He would turn and glare right at the cymbal at 2:00, then wait until the very last second and hit it with such precision... Same thing during Rusty Cage -- I've never seen such intensity in anyone's eyes before. Of course, watching Matt do Jesus Christ Pose is every Soundgarden fan's dream -- I couldn't fllow all 15 of his limbs at once, but the few that I could see were doing totally different things simultaneously. Amazing. And the best part of all: during one of the songs towards the end of the set, possibly during Drawing Flies or Dusty, the drumstick in his right hand slipped out and flew towards my side of the stage. It seems that Matt keeps extra sticks right in front of his snare just for this reason. Now picture this in slow motion (hopefully I can explain this well): He's beating the snare violently; his right hand comes down and as the stick hits the snare it flies out of his hand; without even blinking or flinching *at all*; his right hand continues its trajectory downward and comes up with a brand new stick. He *DOESN'T MISS A SINGLE BEAT*. I was floored. I can't imagine ever being coordinated enough to pull that off. Incredible. What a weekend. :) More later. seth ------------------------------ From: "Mark" Subject: Chicago show goers unimaginable luck To the Chicago people: You got to watch the show from backstage????Oh, God, I am so jealous/happy for you all. You got to meet and talk with the whole band???Oh, God, I am so jealous/happy for you all. You actually met the illustrious list admin., SETH???Oh, God, I am so jealous/happy for you all. ARGGGGGGHHHHH! My day will come, (I hope), Cathey ------------------------------ From: eliza Subject: RE: The Chicago report >Erin told me that the guys were more subdued on the bus on the way over to the Aragon than they were the day before, so I assumed the show would be slightly less intense. Boy, was I wrong. They were absolutely fucking *AMAZING* Sunday night. Ha - that is funny!! Before the Sunday night show we were all sitting in Moody's saying the same thing about ourselves - totally blah and drained and not really looking too forward to the 2nd show for fear the it might "pale" in comparison - HA!!!! I will speak on behalf of the crew of Sommsters and say that not only was the band more keyed up on Sunday, but so were we!!! Sat. night I was in the pit but barely broke a sweat . Last night in the balcony, i was a mad woman and drenched - we were all rocking out of our minds.......it was SG's energy - they did it to us... and i will totally agree with Seth that they were great Sat, night but last night they were "absolutely fucking *AMAZING* ------------------------------ From: "Andrew Dunn" Subject: Re: Earplugs up your nose! - ---------- > From: Greg Fox > To: somms@MIT.EDU > Subject: Earplugs up your nose! > Date: Monday, November 11, 1996 11:44 AM > > I just saw the Hype! soundtrack, and bought it. It is just awesome. It is > well worth any cost. I have a few questions though. How many bands have > played or recorded "Swallow My Pride"? All I know? Green River <-- origional, Soundgarden, Mudhoney, and Pearl Jam/Mudhoney on a tour once in 1993 It's like... THE Seattle song of the 1980's I think everyone has played it at least once. > Which was the first band to record > it? Green River > Anyone else feel that the overall sound of Hype! sounds a lot like the > Sub Pop 200 collection? Ummmm... no ;) I liked 200 better... All the artists I bought it for already had that material on other CDs, I wish more of the stuff from the movie was included including that version of "Searching..." which is soooooooooooooooooooooo good. And that first version of "Smells like Teen Spirit" > Also, when was the Self Pollution Radio Broadcast? > I guess I am done now. January 8th 1995. nd. ------------------------------ From: "Steven Russell Jr." Subject: Can-Con Sommsfest Toronto :-) Hey list! First, glad to hear the superpositive reports from Chicago. There isnt a list member who isnt totally jealous and happy...well maybe some arent happy...for all of you. ;-) Congrats! Hmmmm...I wonder if anyone booted the show :-) But "the show must go on" - Jefferson Starship So...those attending the Toronto date on Wednesday....A small (but hopefully growing) group from Buffalo will be doing the dinner (the phillie cheesesteak is excellent) and drinks (Molson's of course ;-) thing at the Hard Rock on Yonge St. from about 5-7ish. (or until they reject our visa cards :-) All welcome! You're especially welcome if you're buying a round :-) :-) Anyone from TO that knows about the parking situation...please email me. I've heard the lots are open because of some strike? Fill me in :-) I'd plan on filing a full report Thursday during work :-) but it would be totally anti-climatic and boring compared to the posts these last few days....maybe later ;-) Steve - - Heavy Rotation: winter tires for the cavaileer. ------------------------------ From: Jive Subject: Re: ultimate sg setlist My thoughts on the ultimate sg set list (in no order): 1 Gun 2 JCP 3 New Damage 4 Limo Wreck 5 4th of July 6 Cold Bitch 7 Pretty Noose 8 No Attention 9 BUTOW 10 Loud Love 11 Outshined 12 Rusty Cage 13 Mailman 14 Full On Kev's Mom 15 Fresh Tendrils ------------------------------ From: vman@ctdnet.acns.nwu.edu (Vasant Ramamurthy) Subject: People seen in Chicago I hear some of the Pumpkins were at the SG show in Chicago. Could this be an end to that stupid Billy-Kim feud? I hope so. But then again, I don't know which ones were at the show.... Speaking of the pumpkins, those bastards at MTV and 120 minutes totally lie their asses off. 2 weeks ago, BUTOW was supposed to sneak premiered. It wasn't. Yesterday, D'Arcy and James were supposed to be on. They weren't. Jeez, ya can't trust anybody. Vasant ****************************************************************************** THE REFUGE OF THE DAMNED - Check out lots o' music stuff here!! http://ctdnet.acns.nwu.edu/~vman/me.html vman@ctdnet.acns.nwu.edu "When new damage comes, it's a new word for plague, a new world order, a new word for hate" - New Damage - Soundgarden ------------------------------ From: endless_nameless@prodigy.com (GRRL NIKI FREER) Subject: SOMMSfest: Chicago i think i am speaking for anyone on SOMMS that wasn't able to go to the CHicago concerts (either night) for WHATEVER reasons when i say... ................. NOT FAIR! :) no, j/k. i am too jealous and happy for you guys. totally and completely floored by all of yr reviews and endless ramblings over how fucking awesome chris and matt were (these did seem to me to be the nicest of the 4) and how cute was that about the pumpkin bread! (i'm sorry, i completely forget who that was! please forgive me!) and eliza...you got to touch the infamous fork..*sigh* well, i'm just writing to say a big huge OH MY GOD! for all of you in congratulations. i wish you all could see my pathetic face while reading all of yr incredible experiences. too lucky are you. and too lucky are you guys on the second night to hear Mailman! ARGH! not fair! hopefully... hopefully they'll play this one in Philly... love you guys! ps- nice move seth. :) mind riot ____ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ i'm tied within i'm luck's last match struck in the pouring down wind... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ From: Greg Subject: Soundgarden Tickets Well people I got tickets to the Melbourne Festival Hall show yesterday. I'm a bit disappointed with the spot but what they hey, I'm going to see my first sg show! I went into BASS on Friday and asked about the show and said they knew nothing about it and they would definitely not be on sale on Monday because Bryan Adams was. So I didn't go and line up and all early, I would have of course. I had an exam at lunchtime and when I got home about 3 o'clock I checked my mail and a friend from Melbourne told me she'd just got her tickets that morning. Now that ticked me off that they were on sale! General Admission was sold out so I had to settle for seats. I'd say it'll definitely be totally sold out, probably today. The tickets were $40.50, that's not bad I guess. Anyone else going to see the Jan 26th show then? Well cya later, I can't wait! ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: (im)perfect analogies... On 11 Nov 1996, Anna Mehrer wrote: > "The most headbanging of the major bands to emerge from Seattle in the > early 90s, Soundgarden's success has rested on its ability to rework > familiar Led Zepplin and Black Sabbath formulas with economy, smarts and > introspective tunefulness. At the first of two sold-out Aragon shows, > however, the band's heavy metal thunder weighed down its songs, helped > no doubt by the hall's notoriously muddy acoustics. The buoyancy of > 'Dusty' was reduced to a careening lurch, and band leader Chris Cornell well, we've all seen this sort of thing before. some guy goes to the show or hears the album without really knowing any of the band's songs (or anything about them at all for that matter), and then proceeds to give some lame ass review. maybe I give him too little credit. from his review, it looks like he *did* ask his editor for spending money so he could go out and hear dotu, because he does talk about dusty (maybe the band reworked the song, kevin. did you ever think of that?) and rhinosaur (after a fashion). but that hardly counts. it is his first sentence that really gives everything away, however. if he was truly a critic with some real knowledge of music, he would understand that soundgarden don't simply "rework...familiar led zeppelin and black sabbath formulas" at all. it seems to me that most trashy music journalists just throw their hands up in the air when it comes to describing soundgarden, and tend to rest on their tired old comparisons to led zep and black sabbath. someone should put that to rest (I know that band have been trying to since 1989 or so). while they do have their influences, soundgarden are definitely a singular occurrence in the music world. but then again, he did note that they are intelligent . ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide - words by kim thayil ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Greg Fox Subject: Re: Earplugs up your nose! > I always thought that was pretty cool about "Swallow My Pride", i know > Green River had two separate versions of it (one on Come on Down and the > other on Rehab Doll), then there is Soundgarden's version (of course) and > the Fastbacks (on Sub Pop 200) and there is also this version with some of > the members of Mudhoney and Pearl Jam after Green River broke up, this live > version that is on last year's pearl jam christmas single. And that demo > or whatever is on the Hype! soundtrack. i think that is one of Green > River's best songs. Hmm, good info, thanks. Sounds like you have a few of the Green River albums. WHat sort of music are they any way? Greg =-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-= |That damn polyphasic frog |Beliefs are Dangerous | | rototillered my beets again! |Beliefs allow the mind to stop functioning.| +-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-|A non-functioning mind is clinically dead. / |gfox@uvic.ca |Believe in nothing ... / |http://gulf.uvic.ca/~gfox \ -Tool from insert to Aenime / |http://www.islandnet.com/~combine\ / =-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-=-~-/ ------------------------------ From: MICHAEL APPLE Subject: Re: Chicago Dedication *insanely jealous* - suicide note ;) Date sent: 11-NOV-1996 23:49:50 >OKAY...this is it, I think I'm gonna have to get out the razor blade, I can't >live any more...after missing soundgarden in 1994 because it was raining at >the big day out and my mother wouldn't let her baby out in case she caught >cold...after accepting not being able to see them when they come to Australia >in january cos I will be in the usa, with the added salt in the wound of >having to line up with my friends to buy them tickets...after accepting the >fact that they will probably not tour next year in the usa, especially to NEW >MEXICO...you guys have to make me feel so miserable by telling me that chris >DEDICATED a song to you... :~~~~~~~~~( Never fear, Alex. I was talking to Shannon Hoon this morning (via Ouija board) and he told me that my band will be signed to Epic in a month, and Soundgarden and Rage Against The Machine will open for us on tour next year. Also, we'll be doing a tour of ONLY New Mexico. :) "When you wish upon a star, your dreams can come true!!!!!" :) Hehehe. >Well I don't mean to depress you, I'm really excited for all you guys that >went to the chicago show...just facing the fact that it'll be another 2 or 3 >years before I might even have a chance of seeing my babies live...hey they >will probably break up just after this tour knowing my luck. NEVER EVER DISCUSS SOUNDGARDEN BREAKING UP!!!! (I nearly had a heart attack at the thought!!!!) >Last night, at my last ever schoolgirlie sleepover, we did psychic circle >(which is like a weegee board :) *yes i no thats not how u spell it*, and >River Phoenix (?) told me that I win tickets off the radio to see them, while >I'm in the usa, but I am not allowed to go or I lose them or something...*yeah >as if I would let them out of my sight*...mind you, he also told me that I >have a lesbian relationship with my best friend during the Christmas holidays >and that I marry 7 men and throw up all over my parents... Don't listen to River. He took smack, so he don't know what the fuck he's talking about. :) >So I have my fingers *and various other appendages* Ewwww, icky. Later, Michael Apple 60C Wilson Hall SUNY Plattsburgh Plattsburgh, NY 12901 appl1115@splava.cc.plattsburgh.edu ------------------------------ From: MICHAEL APPLE Subject: Swallow My Pride Date sent: 11-NOV-1996 23:58:03 Hey, guys. SInce we're all talking about Green River's "Swallow My Pride," is their record "Dry as a bone" any good? I saw it at the record shop, and I'm thinking about buying it. I heard Swallow My Pride on Soundgarden: Screaming Life, so I was wondering if all Green River songs were that good. Later, Michael Apple 60C Wilson Hall SUNY Plattsburgh Plattsburgh, NY 12901 appl1115@splava.cc.plattsburgh.edu ------------------------------ From: "Jack Parsons" Subject: Dogs being blind and such Hey list, Any PJ fan will notice Ed's mini "porch" fetish. Well I've noticed "dogs" in SG songs a lot lately. Ex/ "I had a dog, he was a mix..." "The grass is always greener, where the dogs are shedding..." "I'll take the river down to still water and ride a pack of dogs..." "When the dogs are looking for their bones..." and of course the songs Call Me a Dog and Blind Dogs. Just trying to make conversation... Rosee, my favs of Temple are Wooden Jesus, All Night Thing, and Call Me a Dog... Jonathan "Soundgarden is like a loose steering wheel...Mischievious yet playful." - --Mattster ------------------------------ From: MICHAEL APPLE Subject: Re: true fan........? Date sent: 12-NOV-1996 00:20:06 Jamie C, Be careful there. Saying that Soundgarden isn't your favorite band on this list is like begging to be flamed. If SG isn't your favorite band, wheat are you doing here? I don't mean that in a hostile way. I'm just curious. Later, Michael Apple 60C Wilson Hall SUNY Plattsburgh Plattsburgh, NY 12901 appl1115@splava.cc.plattsburgh.edu ------------------------------ From: MICHAEL APPLE Subject: Re: People seen in Chicago Date sent: 12-NOV-1996 00:38:00 >I hear some of the Pumpkins were at the SG show in Chicago. Could this be >an end to that stupid Billy-Kim feud? I hope so. But then again, I don't >know which ones were at the show.... I think that Billy should be mad at Courtney Love, not Kim. After all , he had been dating Courtney, and she cheated on him with Kurt Cobain. Courtney may be a pretty good musician, but she sure treated Billy like crap. Can you think of anything worse that Kim could have done? >Speaking of the pumpkins, those bastards at MTV and 120 minutes totally lie >their asses off. 2 weeks ago, BUTOW was supposed to sneak premiered. It >wasn't. Yesterday, D'Arcy and James were supposed to be on. They weren't. >Jeez, ya can't trust anybody. MTV sucks, forget about that crappy haven of conformity. Who needs it ? Later, Michael Apple 60C Wilson Hall SUNY Plattsburgh Plattsburgh, NY 12901 appl1115@splava.cc.plattsburgh.edu ------------------------------ From: clmiller@mail.usachoice.net (Chris Miller) Subject: Newly Damaged So anyway. . .i AM new to this list. . .how about a little synopsis on how it started. . .who's involved. . .what we are in existence to do. . .you know, the simple questions. I love the fact that I can talk to people who love SG as much as I do. Even though I don't live nearby anywhere where SG plays. . .it's still cool to hear recounts of others' stories of their tour experiences. Keep 'em comin! ------------------------------ From: MICHAEL APPLE Subject: Album format. Date sent: 12-NOV-1996 00:44:50 Alex mentioned that she preferred vinyl records to CDs or cassettes. This is probably because records give a really cool crackly organic sound when you play them. I personally prefer cassettes for a couple of reasons. First of all, cassettes are cheaper than CDs. Secondly, with a CD it's easy to skip to the hit song on the album without listening to the rest of the songs. It's harder to do that with cassettes. Lastly, cassettes are far more durable than CDs. If you even get a scratch on a CD it is ruined. I once accidentally stepped on my Toadies album, crushing the entire side in. THE TAPE STILL WORKS! My Temple Of The Dog tape was thrown against the wall once by a jerk at work. Even though the entire insides are exposed, with a big chuck torn off the front, it works like a charm. That's why I try to get cassettes all the time. I'm a complete klutz. :) (Except on guitar.) I bought my "Songs From The Superunknown" EP in CD format, and I'm constantly worried I'm going to break it by accident. I'm going paranoid from just one CD! Later, Michael Apple 60C Wilson Hall SUNY Plattsburgh Plattsburgh, NY 12901 appl1115@splava.cc.plattsburgh.edu ------------------------------ From: ThNrthFace@aol.com Subject: Commands from the man himself... Howdy! Gee, what can be said that hasn't been said already? Well, I don't care if it's been said already, I'm gonna say it again. Erin is SO FUCKING COOL!!! There should be a national holiday in her honor. Well, we can change today, Veteran's day, to Erin's Day. Now, on to my little stories. Everyone was really cool, which goes without saying though. Anyways, when I met Kim backstage in the dressing room, I said hi and told him I'm the one who started the KTMS. His eyes got real big and he said,"Wow man, that's really cool. You should go out and slap Heather Mifflin for me, she deserves it. She's the kind of woman who is gonna get slapped alot more in her lifetime." HOW COULD YOU NOT LOVE THIS MAN?!?!?!?! Ben: Super Cool. I talked to him the longest. I told him I went to the Hater show and that it was a cool show except for a few assholes in the crowd. I asked if it was actually Daniel House who he beat up and he said, "No, it was just some fuck in the crowd. I feel real bad about Dan, cause when I jumped into the crowd, some girl got pushed and the back of her head busted up his face. I really need to learn to control that. Then some assholes were trying to start shit with my younger brother after the show, so I had to throw their asses out too." Now you know why I made him an honorary member of the KTMS. Ben was super nice and alot of fun. Matt was really cool too. I didn't bother him much because he and Seth had just started talking. But Matt was as nice as ever. Chris was really cool as well. He was really impressed with those of us who flew out from Seattle just to see them. I even think I heard him say "Wow, that's pretty stupid", jokingly of course. Frank from Rocket From The Crypt was really cool. HI FRANK!!! Everyone say hi to Frank. Sharon from A&M was really cool too. Thank you for all you are doing/did Sharon. Well, for me at least. :-P Everyone on the list should have the opportunity to meet Seth. One HELLUVA guy. He's also a babe magnet. If you need a date, go hang out with Seth. Women just flock towards him. (Seriously! I wouldn't lie about anything like this) Ask anyone, they will tell you the same. I'm sure alot more will come back as I regain consciousness. I need a vacation to relax after my vacation in Chicago. Oh yeah, Hi Ben, Medium Joe, Biff, Toni, Kathie, Rita, Eliza, DD, Kate, and the rest of which I WILL remember, just not now, as I am about to pass out. On that note, I'll talk to ya later. The List Thug, Somms Sheriff, and KTMS Founder on a Mission from the man himself, Aaron "I don't have a nipple ring...because they kinda hurt"-Chris Cornell "I can't play with all of the energy that I usually do, I have to conserve it for later, you see, Dennis Rodman is backstage and want's to meet us, so I have to conserve my energy so I can go back and whoop his ass"-C.C. ------------------------------ From: tealyf@ix.netcom.com (Douglas T. Sher) Subject: brandeis show 19 Waltham show which I am looking to unload. Anyone interested please email me (tealyf@ix.netcom.com). I'm also wondering if anyone has extra tix to the Roseland shows for the 15th, 16th or 17th. A few things. First off, I'd like for everyone to quit fretting over Cornell's svelteness. It's so unnecessary. Those of you who express this concern are probably the same people who got all bent out of shape over Kate Moss' appearance. Fathom this concept: SKINNY DOES NOT NECESSARILY EQUAL SICK. As a skinny person myself, I find all the concern rather condescending. So knock it off. Also ... sommsters frequently offer their opinion here of which SG album they consider to be the band's best. Occasionally, not too often but every once in a while, someone will dial in with Louder Than Love as their fave. Now, I'm not saying LTL's not a fine album (it is), but how in the world can anyone say it's their best? Better than BMF? DOTU? SUPERUNKNOWN? I'm baffled at how one can come to that conlusion. On what basis do you award it that distinction? Because it's "raw" and "honest?" In truth, it's probably the most glossy and "produced" album they've made. It's got four really great songs on it, in my opinion (HAO, FOKM, LL and I Awake) but the rest just don't measure up against their newer stuff. If it's so great, why does the band only play 1 song from it (if that) during their sets? It's a good album, but I think even Screaming Life and Ultramega are better than LTL. So get with it. I mean, where do you people get off making statements like that? Has anyone seen the BUTOW single yet? Where the heck is it? And what are the b-sides? Ooh, something live, I hope (how about the "I Want You" finale from the 95 Reading Fest? Hey, we can all dream.) Tealy (Son of Richard) "Ordinary f**kin' people, how I hate 'em ..." -- Budski, "Repo Man" ------------------------------ From: "Jamie C." Subject: true fan........? here's what i read yesterday: > Utah SG "fans" (which they think they are but they are not) are complete > fucking metal; head clueless fuck-heads. > They don't understand the music > or the complexity, the dynamics, nothing, they just want to jump around like > a bunch of fucking retards. > They are fucking concert goers who would be happy with any loud noise! > I fucking hate Utah. There are no true SG fans here (with the exception of > Bill and myself) Thank God I'm going to see SG in Seattle December 11, with > real fans that know the fucking music. umm, not everyone can be as perfect as you, i guess. know what? sg isn't my favorite band. i only have screaming life/fopp,louder than love, bmf, superunknown, and dotu. not ultramega ok. not any of the imported stuff. and i'm not from seattle ('cause if you're from seattle, you're a music expert, right?? give me a break) but i believe i'm still a fan. hey, maybe even a "true" fan, who knows? so get off your pedestal, man. you are no better than anyone else who likes soundgarden. - -- +jamie c.+ ******************************** "You and I are not the same.... you like everything." (I Mother Earth-"Three Days Old") ******************************** "two of us, that's dangerous" (Smashing Pumpkins-"Frail and Bedazzled") ******************************** ------------------------------ From: ahorwood@gil.com.au (Alex Horwood) Subject: Re: Record shopping. Well, for once Australia seems to be winning...we have heaps of vinyl stuff over here, I have only ultramegaok on vinyl, but I have seen um I think all of the other albums on vinyl here in Brisbane. Also some 12", can't remember what I have seen, too broke to buy them :( Also the good thing is that vinyl is almost always cheaper than cds, and usually cheaper than tapes too. *yay* I remember reading somewhere that vinyl records cost more to manufacture than cds, yet cds are usually twice the price (ave cost in Aust for a new cd is $30 or double $40, vinyl $10-$30 for both single and double)... YAY we love rocking horse : D just as a matter of opinion, I *although only 16* much prefer vinyl records to cds and tapes, apart from the price, I have no idea why, it just feels better. Anyone else feel like this? just asking :) Alex ------------------------------ From: ahorwood@gil.com.au (Alex Horwood) Subject: Chicago Dedication *insanely jealous* - suicide note ;) OKAY...this is it, I think I'm gonna have to get out the razor blade, I can't live any more...after missing soundgarden in 1994 because it was raining at the big day out and my mother wouldn't let her baby out in case she caught cold...after accepting not being able to see them when they come to Australia in january cos I will be in the usa, with the added salt in the wound of having to line up with my friends to buy them tickets...after accepting the fact that they will probably not tour next year in the usa, especially to NEW MEXICO...you guys have to make me feel so miserable by telling me that chris DEDICATED a song to you... :~~~~~~~~~( Well I don't mean to depress you, I'm really excited for all you guys that went to the chicago show...just facing the fact that it'll be another 2 or 3 years before I might even have a chance of seeing my babies live...hey they will probably break up just after this tour knowing my luck. Last night, at my last ever schoolgirlie sleepover, we did psychic circle (which is like a weegee board :) *yes i no thats not how u spell it*, and River Phoenix (?) told me that I win tickets off the radio to see them, while I'm in the usa, but I am not allowed to go or I lose them or something...*yeah as if I would let them out of my sight*...mind you, he also told me that I have a lesbian relationship with my best friend during the Christmas holidays and that I marry 7 men and throw up all over my parents... Not the most reliable of spirits perhaps :) So I have my fingers *and various other appendages* crossed that a miracle will happen...YES THATS RIGHT GOD :) ME DOWN HERE!!! remember - she likes suprises :) Suicidally yours Alex ------------------------------ From: ahorwood@gil.com.au (Alex Horwood) Subject: Re: true fan........? > Be careful there. Saying that Soundgarden isn't your favorite band on >this list is like begging to be flamed. > If SG isn't your favorite band, wheat are you doing here? I don't >mean that in a hostile way. I'm just curious. Actually *opening self to flaming also* Soundgarden isn't my favourite band either. They are actually only my third favourite. (after Sonic Youth and Mr Bungle, in case you were wondering). I have every single sg cd, (a hard feat considering my total lack of cash flow) I worship the ground sg walk on, I stick pictures of Chris all over my files and kick people who try to colour in his eyes green. (they actually look quite good, kinda devilish *grin*), I dream about Kim, I would KILL to see them live, I have arguments defending Ben's playing and my prerequisite for the perfect boyfriend is someone who can play the drum part of JCP. However, like I said before, they are only my 3rd favourite band. Dunno why I like the others better, the three bands are kinda different styles and all, but I just prefer them to sg. The only thing that I dont like about soundgarden is their likeability, the way you can wear a soundgarden shirt (of which i have 2) and everybody in the street will have heard of them and can sing the chorus of black hole sun. If black hole sun had never been released as a single, they would be far and away my favourite band. I have no idea why being different is so important to me, some flaw in my vital functioning system or something I guess. Okay, after having completely killed every other sommsters extremely high opinion of me *coff*, I open the way for the flame war that will follow... ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 2 Issue 302] ****************************************