From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Wednesday, 6 Nov 1996 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Wed, 06 Nov 1996 02:19:54 EST Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Wednesday, 6 Nov 1996 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: Re: TV ad sgfc ticket offer TV ad Overfloater.......Up all nite at Dave's Re: TV ad JCP on MTV!!! D.C. SOMMSFest Update Re: JCP on MTV!!! stuff Austin Concret,Botw,SG videos Who Do I Kill... Chicago Tix Available video/UNmoshing touchy propaganda Fallen heros feed the ground... more pit stuff blowing up the outside world in my jesus christ pose entomology hater SOMMS available... BUTOW - but not just yet! bugs brian wood Brian Wood & Hater & STuFF butow I'm blistered... Just another happy customer! Rock and the Environment part 2 sg at Planet Hollywood nothing (really) to say... Moshing... More on Hater... Stu Hallerman Re: brian wood / trading makes me think about a stray cat gettin' fed... RE: hater, assholes and the real other side of the moshing coin lets take a survey walpurgis or something in search of... RE: Soundgarden Digest, Tuesday, 5 Nov 1996 Re: sg at Planet Hollywood 'hype!' sdtk boxed set It WAS a happy day.........Johnny Cash, BiMH.......... Sorry - off the track - but I need an answer!!......Pennywise RE: Johnny Cash/Rusty Cage ------------------------------------------------------------ From: al639266@sun1.ur.mx (Robin Brookeneck) Subject: Re: TV ad >Since I have nothing to say about tours and such, >let me tell you that I just saw a TV commercial >for a magazine ("switch" I think was the name) >that featured a bit of Dusty as a background theme. > >That's how exciting SG related life is here in Mexico. > > l8r... > urbano el apestoso > > > That's right!! and don't forget RHINOSAUR!!! at the beginning of the commercial... I can't stop to have the same feeling has yours..IT WAS EXCITING!!! :) Rob Love's like suicide ------------------------------ From: "D. Murphy" Subject: sgfc ticket offer well, everyone, i called the number today. and it appears as though i have a good shot at getting tickets for the 10th show here in seattle. they're supposed to call me back this week with a definite answer....i would recommend that you call them up to try to get your tickets, they're quite friendly! oh, and for those who didn't know, Silver Mgmt runs SGKOTS. and it turns out that the For Lease signs for were for a tenant downstairs. they're not going anywhere.... i guess that's all for now... holy christ! it's 2:30am! dan =========================================================================== danno@wood.net / levitan@u.washington.edu "would it pay you more to walk on water than to wear a crown of thorns? it wouldn't pain me more to bury you rich than to bury you poor..." ============================================================================ ------------------------------ From: urbano Subject: TV ad Since I have nothing to say about tours and such, let me tell you that I just saw a TV commercial for a magazine ("switch" I think was the name) that featured a bit of Dusty as a background theme. That's how exciting SG related life is here in Mexico. l8r... urbano el apestoso ------------------------------ From: KAISERVRBL@aol.com Subject: Overfloater.......Up all nite at Dave's Well, I can't sleep. I feel like a fucking little kid on Christmas eve. SG is 2 days away and I can't believe I'm so fucking excited to meet them that I can't even sleep. (I'm almost 30 years old for Crissakes) Anyway, while I'm up I thought I'd throw out a question: here goes In the opening lines of "Overfloater" Chris sings "Stuck inside and up all night at Dave's" QUESTION: What the hell or who the hell is Dave? Just a question from a raving insommniac. - -Lance- P.S. Did I mention I'm in love with JEN? I owe her my deepest gratitudes for my Seattle SG tix. Thanx JEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ------------------------------ From: Toni M Roark Subject: Re: TV ad Hey Urbano, long time no see! Where have you been hiding?? Nice to see that name again in the list of mail. Hey, cold nasty winter weather is coming, time to start making those offers to have Ben, Chris, Matt and Kim come on down to sunny Mexico and stay at your place. And of course a few select sommsters could come down around the same time. I love Mexico in February!!! Actually I love anywhere south of Memphis come February!! toni ------------------------------ From: Greg Bensimon Subject: JCP on MTV!!! O.K., not really. But during MTV's 30 minute plug of the new Romeo and Juliet movie, I definitely heard the opening of JCP overlaid on a clip from the movie. Has anyone seen the new flick? Is JCP part of the soundtrack for the film, or was this the just the working of someone at MTV. (Maybe someone who thinks it was stupid for MTV to ban the video...) Greg ------------------------------ From: Greg Bensimon Subject: D.C. SOMMSFest Update Well, the D.C. show is now only 15 days away. Here's a list of the folks who have written me to sign up for the party: Greg Bensimon (No, I didn't actually write to myself...) Jamsetta Simpson Kevin Persiko Pat Daly Siva Mohanty Laura Weinstein Karen Monoker Dylan Mcinturff Beverly Wise Andrea Pepin Eliza Polly Toni Roark Did I miss anyone? If so, I apologize. With the problems the mail server at MIT has had during the last couple of weeks, I haven't necessarily been reading every e-mail message from the list. So if I missed you, please drop me a line and I'll add you to the list. You should start hearing about real plan (meeting place, time, etc.) next week, so stay tuned! Greg ------------------------------ From: Toni M Roark Subject: Re: JCP on MTV!!! At 07:50 AM 11/5/96 -0500, Greg Bensimon wrote: I definitely heard the opening of JCP overlaid on a clip from >the movie. I heard it also. I was working in another room when I heard the music and came running just to see. It was the show about Romeo and Juliet. I think MTV just likes that song(not the video). I have heard it used before on shows. My friend, Rita was watching MTV last night with my daughter(She isn't suppose to watch MTV but I wasn't home) when the BUTOW came on. She said they had a short talk with Chris on. Said he had Red and blue not black and looked pretty good. Didn't get it on tape because my Soundgarden tape that is suppose to stay in the VCR at all times when no one is watching a movie(rule #1 concerning VCR) was not in there having been replaced by "The Return of the Jedi". Oh well at least the kid has good taste and loves Star Wars!!! toni ------------------------------ From: Karen Lane Subject: stuff Hello everyone. This is my first posting. Just returned to work from maternity leave. (It's been nice to see some other mothers are posting). I have a couple questions: 1. Can I still obtain one of the SOMMS T-shirts and if so what do I need to do? 2. Are there people going to the Sunday show in Chicago? This will be my first time to see them since the original Lallapalooza tour. (Was a little too pregnant to survive a mosh pit this year) I'd love to hear from anyone going to 11/10 show. I must also note that I think Chris looks a bit on the thin side in the BOTOW video. Someone asked me the other day what I would want it to say on my gravestone. My reply was "Alive in the Superunknown" . Karen ------------------------------ From: "Jesus G. Sifuentes" Subject: Austin Concret,Botw,SG videos I have been on the list for about 3 months now, but never had the guts to write to the digest. But it is a special reason. I just got tickets for the Austin show in Tejas!!! It's the first time I will see them in concret and I know it's going to kick ass!!! The other reason I wrote was to express my feeling on BOTOW video. I personally think it was one of the most artistic,abstract,and beautiful video that Soundgarden has made (That one and" Fell on Black Days ") I love the touch of surrealism it had.I think Chris was haveing a little bit of the " old ultravoilence "!!! One last thing. I would also pay good money to have the collection of all the Soundgarden videos!!! Soundgarden por vida!!! " Cause I know I'm heading for the bottom " ------------------------------ Subject: Who Do I Kill... From: Brydon Cheyney CS95 >If it is Ben who is in the crowd, no need for worry there. He's probably >beating the living shit out of someone who tried to spit on him and threw >lemon wedges at him. *Take special note: DO NOT THROW STUFF OR SPIT ON >BEN!!!* He will not tolerate that and you WILL pay. I wish Ben had done the same in Glasgow, some prick hurled a pint in his direction soaking him - and me as I was right in front of him - in the process! Mind you, I wouldnt've enjoyed the kick in head as he vaulted the barrier... >Now, I would like to thank Chris Mansfield for restraining me when I was >going after the fuckhead at the Hater show wearing the glasses and the >leather jacket. >Two thumbs up to Shroom for grabbing the guys glasses and dutifully stomping >on them. The look on his face was *PRICELESS*. Great form in the stomping >action too. I gave it a perfect 10. Now, I'm not a violent guy, but after hearing about the shit that went down at the Hater show I'd concede that if I was there I'd have no qualms against beating fuck out of these guys, and I'm not the most physical of guys. They sounded like real dicks and I'm just sorry it detracted from the SOMMSters enjoyment - especially Caryns. It's a real shame that it was ruined by some brainless meatheads who decided to fuck around in a real irresponsible manner. Crucifixion would be too good for them. Later Brydon - 'I wanna ride upon a five mile tide of surprise and oblivion, Come rain or shine I'm waiting at the front line... ' ------------------------------ From: "Charles M. Croslin" Subject: Chicago Tix Available Gonzo was good enough to get me info. on the two tickets he knew of for the Nov. 9th Chicago show. Unfortunately, lack of funds and a family gathering prevents my exodus to the Windy City...If anyone wants them, e-mail the person below... < If you decide to not buy these tickets,then post Ben's e-mail address on the list so some one else can get them.Ben really wants to unload these . I am sure there are plenty of other people who would like to get them. << Happy showgoing, Chicago native and bound. I'll have to settle for catching them in Detroit next Tuesday (at a HUGE venue-yuk). Chas ------------------------------ From: Seth Ward Subject: video/UNmoshing Hey 1) eMpTyV finally played BUTOW for me!!! I was so excited...and they played it at MIDNIGHT (Central Standard Time, US...maybe not exactly 12:00, but I was a tad inebriated) on Halloween! How cool can you get? If they played it a few more times, they might redeem themselves for sucking. Canadian SOMMSters or anybody with a DSS...does Much Music play more SG than MTV? If they did, I could stop watching MTV for good and finally stop bitching about it. :) 2) My friend from the UK mentioned that people don't really Mosh at shows over there, they mostly just jump, which is also what happens at local shows in my area. I don't know about the Brits, but I've been in both types of crowds and I'd have to say that substituting jumping for getting your head kicked in is a really good fucking idea. Not only is it safer, but it's tons-o-fun, and you don't get all exhausted just trying to have a good time. Besides, at bigger shows, you get this really cool wave effect in the crowd. There is a good example of this in G-n-r's Paradise City video if you haven't selectively blocked it from your memory ;-p Anyway I vote that we should direct our collective crowd energy in that direction (the vertical one, ha!) and we might all have a better concert experience. Speaking of voting, I hope everyone eligible remembers (rememberED) to do so. Later, A Different Seth **"Go ye Pharoahs, let us walk across this barren desert in search of truth, and some pointy boots...and maybe a few snack crackers..."~~Camel Walk, by SCOTS~~** ------------------------------ From: Luck's Last Match Subject: touchy propaganda I want no debates about who should win, but what i want to know is, who do you think Soundgarden is voting for? Seattle people, give us the ticket....And if you turn this into a discussion about who's a better choice for president or senate or whatever, you will have me, seth, and hopefully list thug breathing fire down your neck. And i wouldn't want that even for myself, and i usually like adventure. ok, i'm done. laters. -j "Stand up and everyone will see your holiness" -Soundgarden. ------------------------------ From: Mark Miller Subject: Fallen heros feed the ground... I hate it when your heros (who never asked to be your heros) let you down. Trust nobody. Sorry to here about your concert experience Caryn. Mark ------------------------------ From: "mcinturff, dylan" Subject: more pit stuff A lot of people seem to be saying pits are uncontrollable. FUGAZI does an exceptional job of stopping them. A friend of mine has seen them fifteen times and they always stop playing as soon as the first crowd surfer goes up, or when it looks like anyone might get hurt. Dylan ------------------------------ From: Michele Subject: blowing up the outside world in my jesus christ pose Hi, I have seen the BUTOW video twice now. I couldn't believe it at frist but Chris is in a symblolic Jesus Christ Pose, notice at the end where if you look at the shadow on the floor it looks just like a cross n someone being on that cross. That was really far out because the shadow is coming into that room were they are not going out like it should, depending wear the light is. Maybe I have just been studing shadows too long.(or maybe I am just confused.) I think somehow SG vidoes are being linked to other SG videos. But this may just be my pyscho weird opinion, but as I see it there are alot of things related in Bimh you see that tree light on fire n Chris looks as if he has some kind of telepathic type power n he did it with his mind in BUTOW he seems to blow up the the screen those doctor or whoever they are are forcing him to look at. Some people say Why the hell do they have chris in a chair. Well it could be they are testing him for telepathic powers or maybe becuz he did kill that girl in the PN video somehow it all links together for me. But this is just all my warped point of veiw. I was just wondering if any one noticed the shadow on the floor? I am just a babbling fool really, Michele ------------------------------ From: Michele Subject: entomology Hi I have another comment you know that other SG webpage the so called offical one? I was wondering what is with all the bugs does someone in SG want to be an emtomologist? I also noticed if you click on the bugs why does it in some places in links you to other web sites on bugs? This is weird is there a reason for this or is it just for fun? maybe someone in SG has a bug fetish? I understood the mantis part but the rest I just want them to get off my screen becuz they are annoying. I am just a babbling fool really, Michele ------------------------------ Subject: hater From: "Shawn David Kennedy" I was wondering, was Brian Wood with Hater on Halloween? I haven't read anything about him in posts from people that were at the show.(Unless I missed the post) Also, you people going to the Soundgarden shows early in November better be giving in-depth reviews (set lists, significant occurances) because I want to know what they might be playing on Nov. 12 when I see them. By the way, I have never heard Tenderloin. I have heard Rocket From the Crypt, and they are alright. Anyway people, give us some reviews! ------------------------------ From: "Jennifer L. Wilson" Subject: SOMMS available... Hi, I have a copy of SOMMS that I found for $30 and I want to sell it to a nice list member at cost. So, if you are interested please e-mail me. Jenn ------------------------------ From: Deborah Baker Subject: BUTOW - but not just yet! The UK release of BUTOW has been delayed till 18th November. Don't know why. but that probably explains why MTV Europe has not been playing the video. BTW I *love* these multiple digests after no digests at all for a week and a half. I missed buying a copy of the duct tape LTL at the weekend because I didn't know what it was (I have the regular version) until someone mentioned it in a recent digest. UK Deb ------------------------------ From: "Polly, Eliza" Subject: bugs >maybe someone in SG has a bug fetish? Hehe michele, that is something I was thinking about asking Erin when we meet her and the band in FOUR DAYS!!!!! Since she works on the official page, she should know the meaning (if there is any) of the bugs and I'll be sure to fill everyone in if I get any kind of an answer. (For those of you who dont know, Erin is going to be in Chicago for the shows and wants to meet us all beforehand and take us to meet the band with our hot backstage passes - ok, group scream "AAAAAAAAAAAAHHH") My list of things to ask the band: 1. What is the deal with the bugs? 2. Does BiMH have anything to do with that awful murder in CA that Dena told us about? 3. Who has the sci-f space fetish? 4. Will Chris autograph my shirt while I am wearing it?!?!?!? HAHA - just kidding, i don't think I would have the guts for that.... but a girl can dream cant she?!?!? --eliza your Chicago, ChrisCornell hand-shakin-bound Somms Deputy ------------------------------ From: ThNrthFace@aol.com Subject: brian wood Regarding Brian Wood, From what I understand, he was the one Ben beat the shit out of during the show. He is no longer a member of the band, and goes to Hater shows trying to cause trouble. Just a wealth of information, Aaron the Chicago bound List Thug and Somms Sheriff. ------------------------------ From: ShRooMGrLz@aol.com Subject: Brian Wood & Hater & STuFF No, Brian's not in Hater anymore. From reliable sources, I guess the guy has some problems (like a wife, a new baby, and an attitude from hell). He WAS at the show, though. Like Aaron said, he likes to show up at Hater shows and harass the band. For what purpose, I have no idea. There's a new guy in the band called Allen (who plays bass). No, I have no information other than that. But I DO know that Brian wasn't the guy that Ben beat the crap out of. I was told the guys name, but as my short term memory is shot to hell... I can't remember it. Supposedly CC and sometimes Eddie Vedder show up to shows like that ('cuz they can do it incognito), but Chris bailed on it... and PJ is on tour, so ... we only had a handful of rock stars to mingle with that evening. (Ben, Matt, John McBain, Mark Arm, Beth Liebling, Mike Inez, etc, etc...) Heheheh... makes you wanna just smack me, doesn't it?!? ;-) And we thought we weren't gonna meet anyone in Seattle. What were WE thinking?? Heheheh... ;-) Shroomy "Hey look! I could reach out and touch Ben's butt right now if I wanted to!!" ~ Various SOMMS members while sitting at a table right next to the bar where Ben Shepherd was standing in his oh-so-tight and well-filled-out black jeans. ------------------------------ From: spierce@mpls.k12.mn.us (Sandy Pierce) Subject: butow i saw the new video last night. it was very cool, because i was up in my room and i thought to myself "i will not end this day without seeing that video" and i walked down the stairs and turned on the t.v. and there it was at about the second verse. so totally cool. it's a good video. i like the funny expressions on chris's face. i am making a movie for my film class and it has a soundgarden theme. it's cool. maybe i'll type up a portion of the script sometime if anyones interested. i will tell you all how responsive my class is to it. amanda (two hours from now i will be watching ani difranco and loving it, but still wishing it's soundgarden!) ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: I'm blistered... On Tue, 5 Nov 1996 ShRooMGrLz@aol.com wrote: > No, Brian's not in Hater anymore. From reliable sources, I guess the > guy has some problems (like a wife, a new baby, and an attitude from hell). > He WAS at the show, though. Like Aaron said, he likes to show up at Hater > shows and harass the band. For what purpose, I have no idea. There's a new > guy in the band called Allen (who plays bass). No, I have no information could someone who was at the show please fill me in on two things: 1. who exactly *is* in the band? and 2. what was the performance like? (a setlist would be great) I understand that a lot of things went wrong at the show, but I'm still interested in hearing how the band played. since there is a new record to be released some time in the near future, were any new songs featured, or were all the songs taken from their debut album? did they play 'sad mcbain' and did matt provide the vocals? and did anyone ask matt if he still reads the somms digest? any info would be appreciated. ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide - words by kim thayil ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: "Kazam Ali" Subject: Just another happy customer! Dena, Dena, Dena!!!!!! Thank you so much for the shirt and hat. They actually came in last week, but I was in a state of euphoria for a while! I am *VERY* impressed with the quality and design. I'm just lovin' life now 'cause everytime I wear the hat or shirt, I get these really wierd stares from people. Feels great!!! Thanks again, Kazam ------------------------------ From: Valahovic Subject: Rock and the Environment part 2 PART 2 Transcribed and edited (this one I had to) by (Stephanie Valahovic) from imusics rebroadcast (in R.A. at 28,000 BPS) The transcript features Kim Thayil, and his viewpoints on: Political Borders Intoduction: "Kim Thayil of Soundgarden also talks about the environmental big picture and what he believes is causing many of the problems facing the planet, he talks of political boarders and environmental boarders and how individuals can get involved in solving some of these issues." Kim Thayil: "I suppose as U.S. citizens we can watch our buying and consumption habits but, the more U.S., international, multi-national industries have to find other markets to make up the slack, if we are not able to buy a certain products or allowed to use a certain products or produce a certain products , theyll produce them in Korea or Mexico. Large corporations and industries like that are not going to want to be told what they can and can not sell. If that happens repeatedly, then certain chemical products that are or not allowed to be sold or produced or utilized here, theyll manufacture them in Mexico or another third world country. National boarders are just that national boarders, political boarders not environmental boarders. Whether we control how we protect our environment here in the U.S. or whether we are able to control that, is not going to leave us free us free of that kind of contamination. When we export our waste or contamination to neighboring countries or to other nations or in the ocean, its one world and regardless of multi-boarders or political boarders, we are still going to have to deal with the consequences of anything form radiation leaks to nuclear testing. oil spills, and/or various chemical toxic waste that is dumped in the oceans, lakes or into the soil. Political boarders we have between countries only stand upwards air edge as far as air travel systems. Our air is not bound to the shape of the U.S. just over our heads. We definitely have to face the consequences of air pollution at the other end of the world. Its one thing to learn about the environment, but also you need to learn about biology and ecosystems, maybe zoology. If your not going to be educated by biological sciences or about the environmental issues then it would be a good idea to educate oneself about trade, international trade, economic polices, political polices, regulation of trade, because allot of this has to do with environmental quality issues." ------------------------------ From: KJack35917@aol.com Subject: sg at Planet Hollywood Hi everybody, I just returned from my Seattle trek, too. Unfortunately, I was not organized enough to plan to meet everybody - sounds like a good time was had by all [except those victims of the pit at Hater :( I had fully intended to go see Hater but jet lag got the best of us - we arrived in Seattle about noon (having gotten up at 4am) and went to the hotel for a nap before the show. Well I went to sleep at 6pm and didn't wake up until 530 the next morning!!! You have to remember that KY is 3 hours later. Oh well on to the point of my post. We tried to go to the Sonics game on Sat night (their home opener) but literally could not find a parking place and finally gave up after driving around for an hour. So the next night we went to Planet Hollywood and the guy at the shirt counter was telling me about the celebs who had been there (Stallone and Bruce Willis when it opened, etc) and the night before they had a party for the Sonics and a lot of sports celebs showed up and members of Alice in Chains and Soundgarden!!! Am I a day late and a dollar short or what? I just had a feeling that they might show up at the game since they're such big fans. I drove by the office of Silver mgmt. several times, and got an interview disc at the Subpop mega mart, however, I know I missed many sg landmarks. Also, at the risk of being a copycat, I'm thinking of contacting Silver Mgmt. about passes for us listmembers who are going to the Atlanta show. So what do you think and how many of you are going? Karen ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: nothing (really) to say... just wondering if anyone has bought the soundgarden interview cd I saw in a record store yesterday. it is a picture disc, and contains a small poster and guitar pick (the company's name is on the tip of my tongue, but I just can't quite get it out). the cd itself was sealed, so I couldn't inspect the contents, but the girl behind the counter agreed with me that the pick would probably just have "soundgarden" stamped on it in some fashion. has anyone picked it up? I'm interested in what the interview has to say for itself. btw, if any brisbane listers or lurkers will be lining up early on monday morning for tickets to see you-know-who at festival hall (they go on sale at 9am), I'll be somewhere near the head of the queue, probably sporting a white jimi hendrix shirt (if nothingdick had ever come through like I knew he wouldn't, I would be in a somms shirt. but that is another story...) feel free to come up and say hi :) ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide - words by kim thayil ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: jbellace@cosi.stockton.edu (John Bellace, Jr.) Subject: Moshing... I haven't been on the list in a while, and when I come back I see all this negativity about moshing. Personally, I like moshing but I can totally see where everyone is coming from. Last week, I saw Korn at the Electric Factory in Philly (same place I'll see SG). The show was great but the crowd was at least 80% assholes, and they kind of ruined it for my friends. This is what you have to understand about moshing. It is these macho, motherfuckers who get in there and start throwing elbows and trying to hurt people. These are the people who don't let anyone up off the floor or out of the pit. They don't get it. Moshing, in its essence, is just a way to get into the music. It isn't just for guys, it isn't about trying to hurt people. It is rough, and no one should be forced into it. And, you can see the show, because most people go in and out of the pit, and more than likely spend more time out watching the show. Trust me, you'd have to be Superman to mosh for the entire show. To sum up, at the Korn show, myself and the guys around me were going out of our way helping people out of the pit and off of the floor. Most people are like this. On the other hand, it seems as more younger punks start showing up at the shows, they don't understand what the music is about and understand even less what the scene (including moshing) is about. These are the ones who show up to hurt people. If you think moshing is about hurting anyone or yourself, stay out of the pit or, better yet, stay home. If this applies to anyone on here, do me and the true Sg fans in Philly a favor, PLEASE don't come on Nov. 21. Go lift weights or do something constructive with your strength. -J- ------------------------------ From: ShRooMGrLz@aol.com Subject: More on Hater... Blind Dog wrote: >could someone who was at the show please fill me in on two things: > 1. who exactly *is* in the band? Ben Shepherd (vocals and rhythym guitar) Matt Cameron (drums and backing vocals, methinks) John McBain (lead guitar and no vocals) Some guy named Allen (bass guitar) That's it, kiddies. I'm sure SOMEBODY must know Allen's last name, but I'll be darned if I can remember it. >2. what was the performance like? (a setlist would be great) The show was AMAZING! Ben makes an EXCELLENT frontman, and his vocals were terrific. Other than the moshing and Ben/Caryn incident... I'd have to say that it was one of the best shows I've ever seen. Hater definitely puts on one hell of a show. As to the setlist, Vikki managed to snag it... complete with Ben spit and everything. I imagine it might be kinda crusty by now. ;-) Ewww!! That was SICK, Shroomy. Sorry about that, kiddies. Ummm... they only played a few songs from the album. Most of the material was new stuff, which I thought was great. There were a bunch of us screaming for "Sad McBain" but Matt wouldn't oblige us... damn him. Also, I *KNOW* there was a cover song in there somewhere... but I can't remember what it was. I could have sworn that it was on the Backbeat Band soundtrack. Can someone help me out with this? I know most of us were busy trying to kill or be killed, but I'd really like to know what song that was. (BTW, yes they did play "Who Do I Kill?"... and it was fucking GREAT!!) I didn't ask Matt if he still reads the digest, or not... damn ME. But I did ask him if that was him on the cover of "Donny Desmond's Pubert Love" in Attack of the Killer Tomatoes. He said (and I quote)... "Nope!" Heheheh... it was really groovy meeting him. He introduced me to Stuart Hallerman, who was alot of fun talking to. (Check your liner notes to Louder Than Love to find out who he is.) One last note to everyone who's going to the SOMMS/SG meeting this weekend... DON'T FORGET TO TOUCH CHRIS FOR ME!!! I don't care if it's just his hand (although if you get a chance to fondle his shoulder or something, that would be really cool)... I WANT A FULL REPORT!! Heheheh... damn, y'all are smooth! Well, someday I'll get to meet the man. I might have to go all the way back up to Seattle to do it, though. ;-) Well, there's always Spring Break I guess. They'll be off tour by then, I'm sure. {S stalk} JUST KIDDING!! Shroomy "Sure you could work in a studio! All you have to do is pick a pattern, and push buttons! It's easy!" ~ Stuart Hallerman giving me job advice ------------------------------ From: UnknMan@aol.com Subject: Stu Hallerman Suz.. er 'Shroom' writes: >He introduced me to Stuart >Hallerman, who was alot of fun talking to. (Check your liner notes to Louder >Than Love to find out who he is.) Also check out half of Sg's b-sides since then. He's had a hand in recording them live & in studio in just about every era of Soundgarden (LtL-era, Bmf-era, Super-era). Anyway... sorry for the boring bit of trivia. Ray (c: ------------------------------ From: UnknMan@aol.com Subject: Re: brian wood / trading Aaron writes: > >Regarding Brian Wood, > >From what I understand, he was the one Ben beat the shit out of during the >show. He is no longer a member of the band, and goes to Hater shows trying to >cause trouble. I'm actually glad to hear that. I don't like the songs that Wood sings on the record. His vocals just annoy me. I normally just skip to the songs that Ben (& Matt) sings. Hopefully the new Hater record (did anyone confirm it's release date) will feature Ben on vocals only. Well... if Matt got the guts to sing on another "track" I wouldn't mind either. non-Soundgarden-related info: Anyone with a tape of the Pearl Jam show broadcast on radio from Germany last week & wants to make a trade let me know. It wasn't broadcast here. Actually, anyone that wants to trade Soundgarden shows give me a message as well (c: Ray (c: ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: makes me think about a stray cat gettin' fed... On Tue, 5 Nov 1996 UnknMan@aol.com wrote: > I'm actually glad to hear that. I don't like the songs that Wood sings on > the record. His vocals just annoy me. I normally just skip to the songs > that Ben (& Matt) sings. Hopefully the new Hater record (did anyone confirm > it's release date) will feature Ben on vocals only. Well... if Matt got the > guts to sing on another "track" I wouldn't mind either. good call, ray. brian wood easily wins my award for "most annoying vocal performance on the hater record"; that being his little adjunct at the end of 'blistered' (when the song changes abruptly). believe me, I *love* the roll matt does there at the end, where he makes use of just about his entire kit (which conflicts mightily with the rest of the album, btw). but when ben hands the microphone to brian and he cranks up that nasal "torn my soul apart...", I wince every time. come to think of it, most of my favourite songs off the hater record are sung by ben (circles being my current favourite). the only song sung by brian that I genuinely shake my booty to is 'roadside', which seems to be the only one where he isn't shaking his own booty like some seattle-version of axl rose. but perhaps that is because of that ultra-cool riff ben worked up for the song :) so now that he is out of the band, my best guess is that ben will do the lion's share of singing on the next record. of course, that only works if they record it in the same way (if you write the lyrics, you sing on the song). perhaps the drummer will sing on a couple of tracks from the impending wwc record...? fyi, matt has actually sung 'sad mcbain' *live*, when hater was playing support to pearl jam a couple of years ago. he was nervous, but the crowd's chant of "eddie, eddie" took away from the overall performance :) ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide - words by kim thayil ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: jcho@discovernet.net (Joshua Cho) Subject: RE: hater, assholes and the real other side of the moshing coin >From: "Christopher Farley" > >PS - Ben looks like he could be a dick anyway. I've always thought that Ben looks (and acts) like a prick. Fuck him. Caryn, I hope you feel better by the time you read this post. Josh ------------------------------ From: AMMENDOZA@SCUACC.SCU.EDU Subject: lets take a survey i was listening to soundgarden the other day, as i usually do, and really realized for the first time that chris cornell has two different voices he sings with. there is the deep voice (fell on black days, black hole sun), and then there is his more high pitched voice (jesus christ pose, pretty noose). i was just wondering which voice you people out there preferred. anthony ------------------------------ From: infinite Subject: walpurgis or something i think "puberty love" IS the work of the devil.... kevin ------------------------------ From: "D. Murphy" Subject: in search of... does anyone in the seattle area have a copy of the BiMH single and/or the Basketball Diaries sndtk that he or she could part with on Thursday night for a little while? I am three tracks away from a complete b-side compilation. all i need is karaoke, bleed together and blind dogs. i'd owe you big time and would be sure to make good on it. please reply ASAP! thanks! dan "i voted for Dave Kovik" murphy =========================================================================== danno@wood.net / levitan@u.washington.edu "would it pay you more to walk on water than to wear a crown of thorns? it wouldn't pain me more to bury you rich than to bury you poor..." ============================================================================ ------------------------------ From: "Kelly Lee" Subject: RE: Soundgarden Digest, Tuesday, 5 Nov 1996 To everyone who went to the Hater show: Hi! I'm never in life been close to any member of Soundgarden, so I was wondering if you could enlighten me. What was it like talking with Matt Cameron? I never hear much about him, it's usually always Kim and Chris. I would love to hear all you can tell me about him. Thanks! -Kelly ------------------------------ Subject: Re: sg at Planet Hollywood From: seth > Also, at the risk of being a copycat, I'm thinking of contacting Silver Mgmt. > about passes for us listmembers who are going to the Atlanta show. So what > do you think and how many of you are going? I would strongly advise that anyone who is planning to do this think twice. It's miraculous enough that Silver Management even acknowledged this list in the first place, and even more amazing that they agreed to set something up specifically for list members. I'm very much of the opinion that we shouldn't push our luck. I imagine they have more than enough to do right now without people asking for more favors. If people write and say "You did it for the Chicago shows, why won't you do it for X?" they're more likely to get annoyed than to start granting all kinds of access to people all over the world just for the sake of being "fair." Just my opinion. seth ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: 'hype!' sdtk boxed set sub pop has released a box set for the 'hype' soundtrack. the box contains four colored vinyl(!) 7" singles, as follows: purple (1) a side: the u-men - dig it a hole b side: soundgarden - nothing to say also in the box set are: green (2) a side: the wipers - return of the rat b side: mudhoney - touch me i'm sick (live)/nirvana - negative creep grey (3) a side: girl trouble - my hometown b side: gas huffer - hotcakes (live)/mono men = watch outside (live) lt blue (4) a side: the fastbacks - k street (live)/flop - julie francavilla b side: young fresh fellows - dark corner of the world the sleeves are nice paper and the set comes w/a poster. the usual high quality sub pop product. ;-) serial number SP 378, price $20. if you're interested in this treasure, call and order it NOW because when i was there they only had three and i bought two. yes, i realize that i bought it at the subpop mega mart and they do sell their stuff elsewhere, but this is a limited-edition and people who don't even care buy it because it's a sub pop ltd edition 7" single box set. seth, i'll scan the sg single for you at some point for the discog. or would that be for mr. russell? whoever. it shall be done. ;-) SEATTLE KTMS: the movie ***STARTS*** friday, nov. 8. that is NOT the only day it is playing. so don't worry, relax, pack leisurely -- we'll go see it en masse when you return from the group grope in chicago. - --caryn injured list semi-hootchie ------------------------------ From: Carolyn Hanel Subject: It WAS a happy day.........Johnny Cash, BiMH.......... Hi all, SOUNDGARDEN IS COMING TO AUSTRALIA!!!!!! Phew. I have to keep telling myself that - it brings a smile to my face = immediately!! Yesterday, after hearing the Femmes on the radio, and then seeing the = Aus SG dates, I actually finally heard Johnny Cash's rendition of "Rusty = Cage" on the radio. Twice. The second tmie followed by BiMH. What a = day. Cash really does a good job, I think! I'm one who usually doesn't = like the cover version of anything (except for UB40/Chrissie Hyde's = version of "I Got U, Babe", and Marilyn Manson's version of "Sweet = Dreams" - those versions are BETTER than the real thing, imo), but I = like his laid-back "Rusty Cage"! It's just so DIFFERENT from the = original, it's possible to love them both. He has such a great, deep = voice. Well done, Johnny!! Carolyn the Mate's Friend I'm on a cloud and I won't come down.......Tumbleweed ------------------------------ From: Carolyn Hanel Subject: Sorry - off the track - but I need an answer!!......Pennywise I need your expertise. (please!) A while back someone on the list mentioned singers who had died, and = among them they mentioned the singer of Pennywise. I asked for more = info, and that someone (and Steven Russell Jnr as well??) wrote back to = me to let me know he had shot himself in the head. Is this really true? Because Pennywise are coming to Australia next month! =20 What's going on here? Can anyone tell me??????? Carolyn the Mixed-up and conFused Can't shake these images, no matter what I do.......Pennywise ------------------------------ From: Carolyn Hanel Subject: RE: Johnny Cash/Rusty Cage Scott Helsley wrote: >>Has anyone heard the Johnny Cash cover of Rusty Cage? A radio station = here=20 in Buffalo played them both back to back for a comparison. I have got = to say=20 the Johnny Cash version blows. Not that I have anything against Johnny = Cash,=20 but it just doesn't work. He should have covered something else like = Fell on=20 Black Days, that might work. What do you think? I've just sent a post about this, not having seen this post first. I = LIKE Cash's version! He has really made it DIFFERENT from = Soundgarden's, yet keeping with the same tune. To me, why cover a song = if you're going to make it sound the same? Or similar? If that's the = case, then people will usually prefer the original, surely. But to make = it totally different, then people might actually be able to like BOTH! = I think I like Cash's version because when he sings it, you can easily = hear the lyrics, rather than having to listen for them. =20 And yet Rusty Cage is my favourite SG song of all time - of course I = prefer that to Cash's. Cheers, Carolyn the Mystic Fumbler And the forest burns along the road, like God's eyes in my = headlights.......Soundgarden ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 2 Issue 296] ****************************************