From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Sunday, 27 Oct 1996 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 15:17:03 EST Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Sunday, 27 Oct 1996 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: My thoughts on a SG Unplugged DOTU Hal Leonard Book? Big Bottom Good news and a SOMMS shirt--all in one day! AAAUUUGGHHHH!!!! don't excite me....... never mind, i'm not excited, i'm just dumb (i think) cover versions See the World by Candlelight... mpeg player Cop Killer Re: MOSHING Fairfax show & Amazing MPEGs at Seth's Site Female SG fans Strong SG women Re: Cop Killer Halloween, SG style girls list more thread jumping... related BOTOW VIDEO!! Rock and the Environment Motorvision ------------------------------------------------------------ From: Greg Fox Subject: My thoughts on a SG Unplugged Everyone keeps going on about how SG may or may not do an eMpTyV Unplugged, AIC did one yadda yadda ya. My thoughts: If SG did decide to do an Unplugged session, it would be on their terms. IE they would not even consider talking to MTV. Is it really that hard to book a concert hall, tell people they are going to do this unplugged thing, sit down with some guitars and drums and play? I don't know, if I am crazy, just tell me, bu the only was I see SG doing an unplugged is by themselves. Greg PS I wonder what Outshined would sound like unplugged? ------------------------------ From: dumo13@erols.com Subject: DOTU Hal Leonard Book? Hi, I realize that the DOTU book is out and was wondering if anyone has it. Since the tabs on seth's page are so good, I'm not going to go out and spend 20 bucks on it, BUT... No one seems to have transcribed "Switch Opens." If someone could tab it out, or send me anything, I'd appreciate it. Private response please. THank YOU CHris ------------------------------ From: Tiffany S StClaireMefret Subject: Big Bottom For those of you who hate the song Big Bottom: Have you seen Spinal Tap? It's quite funny. ------------------------------ From: Candy Haun Subject: Good news and a SOMMS shirt--all in one day! Friday was truly the most excellent Soundgarden day! I arrive at work bright and early, check my email only to learn that I get to meet Soundgarden! Fortunately I was the only one in the office at the time so nobody witnessed me jumping around and squealing like a fool! Then, later that day as I am leaving my house, the first song that comes on the car radio is FOBD. I take this as a good omen. I stop at my mailbox and lo and behold, there is my SOMMS shirt! I drive off, weaving from side to side as I rip open the package with Soundgarden blaring away on the radio. I had my dog in the car with me and he kept trying to lay on my new shirt so I had to hide it from him. Yes, even my dog is a SG fan. The shirt looks great!! Thanks to Dena for all her hard work! And thanks to Seth and anyone else involved in the design! Dena, you certainly earned your vacation in Seattle! I can picture you and Shroom, under cover of darkness, crouching in the shrubs outside the Cornell home. "Susan, did you hear something out in the yard? Maybe I should get the flashlight and check it out?" "No, Chris, you-know-who is in town! You let me handle this." Chicago, here I come! Toni, didn't you mention something about some naked dancing CC look alikes that you have lined up for our viewing pleasure? Candy ------------------------------ From: ShRooMGrLz@aol.com Subject: AAAUUUGGHHHH!!!! Tonight was one of the BEST times I've had EVER!! Dena and I met most of the Seattle SOMMSters! I love ALL OF THEM! I want to take them all home with me! And guess what else?!? I MET HIRO!!! YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!!! Ryan and Vikki snagged the Truly set list for me, and Ryan went with me to get Hiro to SIGN IT!!! AAAUUUUGGHHH!!! I TOUCHED HIRO!! I TALKED TO HIRO!! Man, I was so jazzed after I talked to him the first time!! My eyes kept watering, and I was just going fucking nuts! It's so odd! I've met 'rock stars' before... but not SOUNDGARDEN, y'know?!? And Hiro is JUST THE BEGINNING!! Heheheh... Matt and Ben are next!! I love Seattle, and I don't wanna go home. Don't get me wrong... I love Dallas, and I think that it has one of the BEST music scenes in the world right now... but this city is too fucking GORGEOUS! Even the seedy parts of town are beautiful. If I could move Trees up here, I would MOVE HERE AND NEVER LEAVE AGAIN. Heheheh... I'm sure that Silver Mgmt is just loving this. "Don't let that hootchie back into the city!!" Did I mention that we went to IHOP after Truly and I ate WHIPPED CREAM in the SAME CITY that CHRIS CORNELL was UNCONSCIOUS IN?!?!?? Oh yeah, life is sooooo good! Am I babbling? Well, it's 4:40am, so I guess I'll pass out now. I LOVE YOU SEATTLE PEOPLE!! Shroomy - - I'm too brain dead to think of a quote tonight. I'll put two new ones next time. Mmmm... Chris and whipped cream. Can you people imagine it?? ------------------------------ From: "Joseph A. Burnett" Subject: don't excite me....... whoever wrote this...... But wait... doesn't the >fact that I'm within MILES of Chris' sexy body count for anything? ;-) >Hey... isn't their rehearsal space here on Aurora somewhere? now, i might not have gotten this in context, but, I live in Aurora, IL, and if someone knows something i don't, please inform me, so i can go poop my pants in excitement..................................................... Big JOe ps toni write me....... - --------O But it all makes such Sense to me i need room to breathe I work for the goals that i set Wasted time it weighs on my mind You can bet I can't wait one minute more - -----CIV ------------------------------ From: "Joseph A. Burnett" Subject: never mind, i'm not excited, i'm just dumb (i think) But wait... doesn't the >fact that I'm within MILES of Chris' sexy body count for anything? ;-) >Hey... isn't their rehearsal space here on Aurora somewhere? woops, i think you're talking about the seattle show....excuse me for wasting your time, I was temporarily partiallly blinded by the notion that chris was in my town or something....ok, i'm gonna stop now. Here I go. Stop. BIg JOe - --------O But it all makes such Sense to me i need room to breathe I work for the goals that i set Wasted time it weighs on my mind You can bet I can't wait one minute more - -----CIV ------------------------------ From: Deborah Baker Subject: cover versions Sabrina asked for opinions on Soundgarden covering other people's songs... The only cover version I have seen them do live was Waiting For The Sun, at Reading, which was great. Didn't Chris, Kim and Hiro do Doors covers in The Shemps? Maybe this one was of them. Favourite cover version on record has to be Fopp. It makes me laugh. Worst - Touch me. I don't know who it was by and why they covered it, but if they wanted to sound raunchy they failed miserably. And I am speaking as someone who would usually find Chris singing the multiplication tables sexy! And I have to agree that Alice Cooper made a complete ballsup of Chris' songs on The Last Temptation. Early Alice was great, but these days the guy should stick to golf! UK Deb ------------------------------ From: "Steven Russell Jr." Subject: See the World by Candlelight... Hey List! While searching the web, I found this on somebody's site. It's a complete list of SG cover songs! I know for a fact that not all of these songs were performed in their entirety; so I've put a * next to those that were included as a snippet inside some other song (Hands All Over, Slaves and Bulldozers etc). Since I've heard all but three of these...I'd say the best cover version was "Into the Void (Sealth)". It is physically and emotionally impossible to play this song loud enough. Coming in a close second for reason describe above is "Communication Breakdown". To me this sums up the early SG experience; Loud, Sloppy and Music for your Soul. As for the worst...I'd have to say "One Minute of Silence" since they obviously stole the idea from John Cage's 4:33 and they forgot to include Yoko's part. VIII. Cover Songs: AC-DC - Problem Child *Beatles - Hey Jude Beatles - Come Together Beatles - Helter Skelter Beatles - Everybody's got something to hide except me and my monkee Beatles - I Want You (She's So Heavy) *Bee Gee's - Stayin' Alive Black Sabbath - Into The Void (Sealth) Body Count - Cop Killer Budgie - Homicidal Suicidal Captain Beefheart - Drop Out Boogie Cheech & Chong - Earache My Eye *Alice Cooper - Eighteen Devo - Girl U Want *Doobie Brothers - Jesus Is Just Alright The Doors - Waiting For The Sun *The Doors - Roadhouse Blues Fancy - Touch Me Fear - I Don't Care About You Green River - Swallow My Pride *Guess Who - American Woman Jimi Hendrix - Can You See Me *Howlin' Wolf - Smokestack Lightnin' *Howlin' Wolf - Backdoor Man *Iron Butterfly - In-A-Gadda Da-Vida Led Zeppelin - Communication Breakdown *Led Zeppelin - Stairway To Heaven John Lennon - One Minute Of Silence *Nirvana - Smells Like Teen Spirit *Ted Nugent - Stranglehold Ohio Players - Fopp *Pearl Jam - Alive Ramones - I Can't Give You Anything Rolling Stones - Stray Cat Blues *Rush - Working Man Sly and the Family Stone - Thank You (Falletin Me Be Mice Elf Agin) Spinal Tap - Big Bottom Stooges - Search and Destroy Also, I got my official unofficial somms shirt yesterday. Dena did a fantastic job! Though the slogan is still lame. Those of you that ordered your shirts definitely got a quality product. Big group shout out to Dena! :-) Note: If you havent recieved yours yet...and were wondering how they sized up...the XL is running a little big which is good since it's 100% preshrunk cotton. hehe I just noticed that the tag say "Made in the USA"...you get bonus point from the list imperialists. :-) Steve Heavy Rotation: Vince Guaraldi - "Linus and Lucy", Steve Vai - "The Attitude Song", U2 - "Seconds", Superchunk - "Driveway to Driveway" and Ministry - "Stigmata". ------------------------------ From: "Paul" Subject: mpeg player Hello I have a computer question to ask all of you. The other day I downloaded some SG mpeg videos from Seth's page. The only problem is that I have a Mac and I don't know what program I need to play them. I got Sparkle 245, but that dosen't work because it says it won't play a video with both audio and video. If any of you know what program I should get and where I should get it, I would be very happy. I have a Mac PowerPC. paul ------------------------------ From: JIve Subject: Cop Killer Hi I've been lurking on the list for months now, but I finally have a question. I saw sg at lolla in '92 at Montage Mountain in PA, and they did a cover of Cop Killer by Body Count. Did they do this frequently back then, or was this a unique night? Does anyone have a bootleg of it? Also, I went to see Blind Melon and Neil Young a couple of years ago at the Garden State Theater (I'm not sure if that's what the place was really called- it's an outdoor amphitheater in New Jersey), and to my great surprise, Soundgarden made an unannounced appearance and played a whole set. The set included some stuff from bmf and ltl, but most importantly, stuff from su that hadn't been released yet, which really made my day (particularly since I couldn't have cared less about Neil Young-- sorry). Was anyone else there or know anything about that show? Any bootlegs? Also, I got my stuff from Dena yesterday, and it looks great! I'll be wearing the shirt to the Electric Factory in Phila! - ---Aaron (obviously not the list thug/sheriff) ------------------------------ From: Joe Cennamo Subject: Re: MOSHING On Fri, 25 Oct 1996, mcinturff, dylan wrote: > I have a great topic that some people will get fired up about...mosh > pits. I had a great time at Lollapalooza this summer, but the people > who had to start a pit (especially for the songs played on MTV) were > the shittiest thing I had to put up with all day. Most people who > mosh could just as easily go off to a room somewhere and destroy each > other to a Silverchair tape or something. I would never suggest that > nobody "get their groove on," but DON'T RUIN THE CONCERT FOR OTHER > PEOPLE BY BEATING THE FUCK OUT OF THEM! There is NOTHING I hate more > than not being able to see a band because all I can see is the floor > or some fucker's boot in my face. GROW UP. Enjoy the music and the > musicians on stage. There is no excuse for hurting other people. > Dylan I totally agree, at lollapollza I only got to see half of soundgarden because a bunch of rednecks would stop moshing werever I went. I had to fight my way out, then I watch 5 minites and start fighting again it sucked. Soundgarden I wanted to watch play, not big rednecks. I missed all of metalica because of this. Nothing against moshing though, just when the band is good I like to watch. joec ------------------------------ From: "S. Mohanty" Subject: Fairfax show & Amazing MPEGs at Seth's Site Hey everybody, I just resubscribed to the list yesterday and its been a few months since I posted here last summer. Got tickets to see SG at the Fairfax, Virginia show on the Nov. 20th and this show will *definitely* be better than the 7/16/96 lolla show in Charles Town! Just wondering if there's going to be a SOMMS meeting or a SOMMS Fest type of thing going on at the Fairfax show?? Please let me know, it would be really cool to meet and hang out other people from this list! Anyways, after leaving the computer on for nearly eight hours, I finally finished downloading the ENTIRE 17 megabyte MPEG movie of Jesus Christ Pose from seth's web site and man it is fucking amazing! I'd never seen the video before since MTV had banned in 1991 and after viewing it I have to say this is the best Soundgarden video ever made. The quality of the MPEG movie is excellent. Thanks to Geoff Kleemola for digitizing this video, it was definitely worth his effort and time. I also got the live video of Birth Ritual from "Singles" which was also pretty cool. The video page at seth's web site has an excellent collection of clips, so anyone who has the time should check these movies out! I finally got the australian version of the burden in my hand single yesterday at Tower Records and some of these b-sides should have been included on Down on the Upside. I can't believe that "Bleed Together" was not put on the album this song absolutely rocks. "Karoake" is another great song, Matt just goes totally crazy on the drums near the end. And the demo version of Birth Ritual is the rawest sound that you can get in an SG song. I hope the new "Blow Up..." singles have the same great b-sides that the burden single does... Later, Siva ------------------------------ From: oponfam@cnsnet.com Subject: Female SG fans Taylor wrote: > I can only guess that most women, who > still adhere to society's constraints, will not get into SG because they > believe that SG is too aggressive... Personally, I think it is a great > way to relieve anyone's (Male or female) frustrations/aggressions by > blaring Rusty Cage in the middle of a traffic jam and trying to keep up > with Chris's vocals. That makes sense. Even my husband has asked, "doesn't that music make you feel tense?" Actually I also use music to release frustration, and really aggressive music relaxes me (weird as that might sound). Its like just listening removes the tension. Dancing is good for that too, but unfortunately I don't do as much of that anymore. > Without making a rash generalization, I would > think that most women who really enjoy SG are strong in terms of > expressing their individuality... Why thank you, couldn't agree with you more. Kathie ------------------------------ From: oponfam@cnsnet.com Subject: Strong SG women Eliza wrote: > I must say though, that SG is not only about aggression to > me. They are also about unbelievable imagery and expression of intense > emotion....expressing things that we could not find words for > ourselves.....I mean the emotion of the songs (lyrics especially) is > something that I think most women would be able to relate and respond to > (being the emotional beings that we are!).. however, since the lyrics are > often paired with some harder edged r&r, many women shy away from their > music, or have not yet allowed themselves to relate to it. I agree 100%. If the music were only about aggression I wouldn't be interested. Of course the word aggression doesn't necessarily have to mean violent lyrics, it could also describe the strength and vitality of the music. Anyway, I'm definitely a lyric person and respond particularly stongly to Chris' lyrics. I don't know that I've come across too many men who can write such emotional lyrics. The first time I heard Say Hello to Heaven I cried. I had never heard a song describe the feelings of losing someone you love so perfectly. I think alot of times both men and women don't take the time to really listen to lyrics. Thats probably why SG fans, at least those on this list, seem to be so intelligent and insightful. Kathie ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: Re: Cop Killer At 11:36 AM 10/26/96 -0400, JIve wrote: >Hi >I've been lurking on the list for months now, but I finally have a >question. I saw sg at lolla in '92 at Montage Mountain in PA, and they >did a cover of Cop Killer by Body Count. Did they do this frequently >back then, or was this a unique night? they did this frequently back then. i could give you specific dates but i'm too tired because i went out DRINKING last night with a certain red-headed hootchie and then got up at 5:30am to get SOUNDGARDEN TICKETS> yes, we got 'em. thankyou,thankyou. and shroomandena are coming to my house tonight. what will they think of next? ;-> - --caryn ------------------------------ From: Soundmetal@aol.com Subject: Halloween, SG style I'm going to a Halloween party were you have to dress up. I couldn't think of anything cool to be, then I got the idea to go as someone from SG. I would be able to wear my regular clothes, but I would have to change my hair. I got three of my friends to do this with me so we would have the whole SG band at the party. We don't know who's going to be who yet though. I'm thinking Chris or Matt since I like those two the best, but who do you guys think I should be? I want to be the one who most of you guys tell me to be. ~~~~~~Later Ronda ------------------------------ From: infinite Subject: girls list i was very happy to NOT see my name on the list of women on the list.. thank you!! ------------------------------ From: infinite Subject: more thread jumping... people have been talking about moshing... i don't really know what = moshing is.. i know what slam dancing is, and jumping up and down (go to = a primus show) but moshing is kind of silly...(what is it??) some = bands like it, it shows people ARE enjoying the music.. i know older = people who like to do that kind of stuff... it depends on the music, and = the people in the audience.. i can't imagine doing anything at a pj = show... why?.... i nearly got kicked out of a bob dylan concert for = crowd surfing (another word i don't quite get), but you would have had = to been there to understand... megadeath was different, i was there to = see the band and only to see the band, that's why they have opening = acts!!! heehhe... the only people i know of who bitch about it are = almost thirty... weird how age affects something like that.. i the silly = people at the local violent shows... the bitch and whine about people = moving around so they can't stand still and watch a band they'll be = making fun of in the next 5minutes... it's stupid.. plus this stuff has = nothingto do w/ the list... i shouldn't send this, but i want to say = something too... shoot me.. ------------------------------ From: infinite Subject: related just wondering if anyone thinks the beginning of the MACC song on stone = free sounds like 1983 (a merman i should be...) 's beginning? or does = land of the new rising sun just sound like that song to begin with..?? ------------------------------ From: Jentje Subject: BOTOW VIDEO!! I can't believe it!! On Seth's page it says that the Blow Up video will premiere on Sunday, Oct. 27th. But here I am, on SATURDAY, and I just saw the video on Muchmusic's START ME UP (it plays again at 4 am. for those who want to know, and it's the first video that they show!). I find that it is one of their BEST videos. It is so good, during the whole thing it looks like Chris is being given all sorts of weird tests by scientist, and well, he does look good on it!!!! Okay, I'm finished my ranting, I just had to tell sombody!!!!! Toodles!!! ~>Jenn ~~>I'm not obsessed with Soundgarden, really, I'm not. ;) ------------------------------ From: VALAHOVIC Subject: Rock and the Environment I was looking around imusic a couple days ago and came across Rock & the Environment, however it doesn't say anymore than what I have in my message. I was wondering if anyone had more information about this? http://imusic.interserv.com/rockearth/show.html "The Album Network presents Rock & the Environment, a syndicated, nationwide radio program featuring today's hottest musicians, talking about their environmental concerns. Hosted by Tim and Mike Cross of Sponge, Rock and the Environment contains lots of music as well as thoughts from the artists on what they believe we can do to solve many of the ecological problems facing the world." " Featured artists in this segment of Rock & the Environment include: Kim Thayil of Soundgarden Jerry Cantrell of Alice in Chains Eddie Vedder of Pearl Jam Peter Garrett of Midnight Oil Krist Novoselic of Nirvana plus Gin Blossoms, Blues Traveler, The Verve Pipe and More!" "Rock & the Environment will be broadcast on radio in over 100 markets across the US through October 27. Tune in to iMusic the entire month of November for an on-demand rebroadcast of Rock & the Environment via the Internet, featuring NEW INTERVIEWS & BAND INFO." Stephanie Valahovic ------------------------------ From: Jeremiah Emison Subject: Motorvision I think there has been a lot of people asking about getting the Motorvision video, so i'll make an offer. There is this video store in the mall that has a new copy of it, and because i don't have a vcr, i'd be glad to get it for somebody on the list. If you're interested, e-mail me. Jeremiah ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 2 Issue 286] ****************************************