From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Thursday, 24 Oct 1996 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 02:55:29 EDT Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Thursday, 24 Oct 1996 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: You heard it here first! (possibly) Re: Hater show on Halloween Duets acoustic Page 17 of the Kama Sutra, anyone? Soundgarden Unplugged Sisters in Soundgarden RE: Soundgarden Digest, Tuesday, 22 Oct 1996 ok that's it Jason Everman Re: Soundgarden Digest, Tuesday, 22 Oct 1996 SG Going Acoutic... Eat the shroom and kiss the snake goodnight... Tool Aragon nov 9 tickets,Jason E. Hats and shirts and Geeks, oh my!! seattle weather report I'm together with your plan Re: Jason Everman Re: Jason Everman shrooms story RE: boys n girls...... i'll try to meet you by the old highway.... girls and SG... Re: Subject: Acoustic Tues, Oct 22, 96 Re:hmmmm current thread Re: In a striking motion, trees fall down........a (new?) thread Re: In a striking motion, trees fall down........a (new?) thread Re: Do we have to just like Barbie or what??? Re: Acoustic Re: Jason Everman Re: Duets Re: Duets Re: Sisters in Soundgarden Unplugged would kick ass!! I'M JUST A BABY WHO LOOKS LIKE A GIRL... Re: Acoustic San Diego tickets geoff kleemola take the word and pass it on... Real Fan or Not!!! Re: Acoustic faq updates... ------------------------------------------------------------ From: Deborah Baker Subject: You heard it here first! (possibly) Just returned bleary eyed from the newsagent (it's 6.30am) with the latest Kerrang and news of Soundgarden... "Soundgarden are the latest band to play Monopoly for real, Messrs Cornell, Thayil, Cameron and Shepherd having just invested in a new jazz venue, Local 121. The club is also being funded with help from several other local investors, including the Sub Pop mainmen Jonathan Ponemen and Bruce Pavitt. Described as 'a spine of jazz', the venue has Critters Buggin's manager as a booker and aims to work in tandem with the Knitting Factory in New York, the aim being to bring some of the East Coast's top talent over to this side of the States." So now we know the direction of Soundgarden's next album :-) and Shroom has another place she will just have to visit next week! Also...the UK release of BUTOW is now 4th November and anyone in Europe with Sky One or Two can see them on tv on October 26th. Kerrang also reports that SG are on The Hit Mix at 1.00pm (UK time) on Sky One and 11pm (UK time) on Sky Two. So set your videos! UK Deb ------------------------------ From: Ryan Subject: Re: Hater show on Halloween At 05:05 PM 10/22/96 -0700, you wrote: > >where did you find tickets? andrea spent the weekend going to the ok and >trying to deal with cellophane square. neither location had any tickets. i got my tix at the o.k on saturday, so as far as i know they are still selling them there... Ryan ------------------------------ From: Deborah Baker Subject: Duets I don't know if this is an new topic, Seth, (or whether after six weeks of posts I am still a newbie - what's the cut off date?) but can anyone imagine Chris ever recording a duet? Who would it be and what song, and why? Eddie Vedder once said he'd like to duet with Chris. An obvious choice, I guess, but I don't know what they would sing. For myself, I think Bonnie Raitt would be perfect, as she also has a very sexy voice and singing style. Most of the stuff that has been written for duets is pretty cheesy, so I think they would have to sing an as yet unwritten Chris song. Or what about Shroom and Chris?!!! Je T'aime Moi Non Plus, perhaps, complete with..er..sound effects? Of course, Chris would probably want to take advantage of the latest recording techniques so that he did his bit in Seattle and Shroom did hers in Dallas. ;-) BTW, can anyone tell me, who is Stephanie Barber who sings guest vocals on Touch Me? Finally, does anyone else out there besides me like the SG cover of Fopp? It certainly gets me shaking my booty (when I've had a few drinks anyway!) and I just love how Chris sings, "Fopped so hard that I lost my shoe". Bye UK Deb ------------------------------ From: Dan Murphy Subject: acoustic funny you should bring this up, seth. i had an argument with someone about possibility of an unplugged show just before i found out about alice being on the show. i was quick to say that i would immediately dispose of any and all sg albums if they decided to do that show...i think that they would kick some ass, but i am pretty hesistant about the reaction that this would get from the rest of the universe. this latest album is already problematic enough for me because the new fans have tuned into a different (IMO 'inferior' - oh, i can feel the flames already) soundgarden than did i when i was turned on to them by 'slaves and bulldozers' so many years ago. now what would it turn into? i don't know, i wouldn't like it. now i guess i wouldn't throw away my SG (esp now that i have SOMMS) but i don't think i would race out and buy this. maybe if chris put out a solo project with polished versions of black cat, flutter girl, and like suicide...that'd be cool. i think that he is probably just sitting on a pile of material waiting to be released, much like jerry cantrell. but i just don't think this show would 'lend itself' or whatever to what i/we expect of soundgarden. funny, i usually don't give a shit what others think (such as what my neighbor might think of the volume of my trees' album right about now) but i get the sense that i am not alone in my protectiveness of "our band." dan please direct flames to: danno@wood.net ------------------------------ From: Deborah Baker Subject: Page 17 of the Kama Sutra, anyone? Tonerkin (Hi Toni!) wrote: >Soundgarden on Loveline now that has interesting possibilities!! Mr >Thayil of course would be the prime choice for answering questions. His >"my dancing partner keeps throwing up" line on the DOTU pre-release radio >show is a classic! He could quote the Karma Sutra. Believe it or not, Kim has given sex advice! There's apparently some book published in the US (where else?:->)where rock stars give their advice on sexual matters and Kim was mentioned as a contributor. God knows what he wrote, but I bet it will be tongue in cheek! (no pun intended, honest) In a Melody Maker interview in '92, when asked if BMF is a record you can have sex to without causing permanent injuries, Kim sez: " I think it's a strictly shaggable record for the more athletic and creative. That's what Soundgarden is all about; it makes people go, 'I really want to to this, but I have absolutely no idea how, it's 69 minus 32 and page 17 of the Kama Sutra...' " BTW, Toni, I don't think Chris would give those teenage boys the answer they'd really want ie 'Go for it, kid!' UK Deb ------------------------------ From: Deborah Baker Subject: Soundgarden Unplugged The other Seth wrote: >1) Do you think SG would ever do an Unplugged show? >2) Would that make you happy, or would it dissappoint you? >3) What would be a good set list for such a show? 1)I think they *could* do Unplugged but I don't think they *would* do one. They have said in the past that they don't think their songs would translate into acoustic versions, but then we've heard Like Suicide, Mind Riot and Black Hole Sun that way. 2) I would love it if they did - but I would love it if they were on TV more often, full stop. 3) Set list - the three above mentioned tracks, of course. FOBD is another obvious one. Dusty's another. But I think they are inventive enough and adventurous enough musically to make a success of any of their songs, although I suppose it might be weighted a bit towards Chris' contribtions. I think they would definitely set out to surprise! UK Deb ------------------------------ From: Deborah Baker Subject: Sisters in Soundgarden Following on from Taylor's thread about the lack of female Soundgarden fans, can Seth tell us what percentage of somms members are female? It seems to me that a lot of the regular posts are from women Eliza Toni Deb Servey Caryn Sabrina Dee Dee Shroom Kathie Jamie Monnica Roseemist (?) ME!!! to name but a few!(Sorry if I've missed anyone). I certainly didn't get into Soundgarden through my partner - he got into them through me! There's also quite a few of us in our thirties and forties. Maybe that's something to do with our strong aggressive personalities!!:-) Soundgarden themselves seem to think their fan base is 60/40 in terms of male/female and that they don't appeal to 'girls' or 'housewives'. Hey Chris, Kim, Ben and Matt, not all teenaged girls are into Bon Jovi and Take That and not all older women are into Michael Bolton! And Ms Silver is 37/38 - - I am sure she appreciates you! UK Deb ------------------------------ From: "ALLEN, NANDI MS (G6 SECRETARY)" Subject: RE: Soundgarden Digest, Tuesday, 22 Oct 1996 >Re: Subject: Just killing your time and spilling mine... >From: seth > >We seem to have a lull in list activity recently, so let me take this >opportunity to urge newcomers to start some discussion. Those of us >who've been on the list for more than a year are likely finding it >difficult to come up with topics we haven't heard before - I know I >certainly am. I know many of you joined the list and then saw a whole >bunch of flames and ont a lot of SG content, so it's up to you to >change that. > >Surely some of you lurkers went to see Soundgarden in Europe, but we >only got a few reviews from list members so far; how was it? Tell us >everything. Tell us what we in the US can expect to see on the >setlist. Hell, tell us how many times Ben spit on the crowd, but say >*something*. > >seth > >PS - Bonus credit to the first person to identify the lyric in the >subject of this message. :) > >------------------------------ I went to see Soundgarden here in Germany at Hugonottenhalle 03 October 1996. I must say perhaps it's cause I'm an old fart (24) I just could not get in to a concert that most of the *&ucking German KIDS pushed so hard and did such stupid shit that I went out in to the hallway and listened rather than stay up front 3 feet from Chris and Ben because had I stayed I would have seriously hurt someone. I was just about to knock my first Kraut out when Chris said hi to me and I yelled hi back and life was grand again. I left for the hallway. I suppose concerts are pretty much like that everywhere, but next time I want to go see them I'll wait for someplace with assigned seats. Hugonottenhalle was so damn small comfortably it could fit 50, but there was about 300 people in this one %^cking room. I don't even know why they chose to have it in such a small place when they could have easily sold out a way bigger place. I'll probably get a lot of flack for this letter but I don't give a shit. The atmosphere, people, lack of room, and just general rudeness left me with a great big desire to never, ever go see a Soundgarden concert or any other concert for that matter. Overall they kinda rocked, Chris really did, Ben looked stoned out of his gourd. By the way "Black Hole Sun" does not sound great acoustically. I hurt for Chris when the band left off and he attempted that song. One great highlight of the concert was their intro bands. Moby was excellent, Eleven and Sponge kinda bit. Any way, Tchuss for now from Groovy ol' Deutscheland. Love Soundgarden, the concert Sucked. By the way I am American and do know what the hell I'm talking about. A lot of foreigners like the ripping chords and awesome vocals, but somehow they loose out a lot on the meaning and the feelings that go with the music so that's why they thrashed around and acted stupid so much. They look at a lot of American videos and they try to act and dress like us, but the effect the accomplish is kinda warped. (Think Bob Dole dressed like Super Fly) (UHHGG) Peace, love, and hair grease Tallen P.S. I'm female and I got into Soundgarden because a lot of my male friends listened. I got rid of these male friends, but Soundgarden stayed. >Re: Are there female Soundgarden fans? ------------------------------ From: "John Gomes" Subject: Has anyone been to a recent SG show and knows the songs that they played? Just curious, going to my first SG show on Nov. 19 at Brandeis University. Thanks...John ------------------------------ From: infinite Subject: ok that's it i sent feedback concerning jason everman to the people w/ the faq, but = i guess i'm ignored or something..=20 jason everman played GUITAR in nirvana, chris novewhatever was the = band's only bassist... he played GUITAR.... six, count em six, = strings.... that's my only problem w/ the faq ------------------------------ Subject: Jason Everman From: Brydon Cheyney CS95 > Which brings up a few questions, Was Jason Everman in the Band? If so for > how long, he wasn't on any of the albums, did he tour with them? Is it the > same Jason Everman who played drums for Nirvana? Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Jason the back-up *GUITARIST* for Nirvana? Dale Crover and Chad Channing both drummed in early Nirvana, but I'm pretty sure that wasn't Jason's post. I'm fairly sure he's credited with rhythm guitar on some Nirvana release, 'Bleach' maybe? I'm sure there are four members listed on the back of the album cover... Later, Brydon - 'I wanna ride upon a five mile tide of surprise and oblivion, Come rain or shine I'm waiting at the front line... ' ------------------------------ From: "T. George" Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Tuesday, 22 Oct 1996 I was reading the list a couple of days ago and read that KT made Billy Corgan cry. I was just wondering if anyone knew what he said to make the tears start flowin'. looking for some good material ------------------------------ Subject: SG Going Acoutic... From: Brydon Cheyney CS95 I think it's a pretty cool idea, but I can't see it happening... I don't know why but when I think of SG going unplugged I get contrasting views of a sell-out 'trad' unplugged and a total 'fuck em all' preformance which defies the usual unplugged cliches. If the guys DID do a performance I can't help but think it would be something special - they should use the performance to fuck with MTV conventions - I can see an inspired concert! But then again going unplugged is all the rage just now, fortunately it works for most band - - AIC and Nirvana in particular, but SG are very much their own band. It's hard to think about, SG are so powerful when they rip into something like JCP live, or Full On Kevins Mom, but also capture a different raw emotion on stuff like Mind Riot or Stolen Prayers... It could be huge, but then again... As for a set-list, I have to mostly agree with lance (?) who posted a list yesterday. I wouldn't like to see SG cover any Nirvana though, it's too overdone just now... if anything I'd love to see a cover of 'Cloe Dancer/Crown of Thorns' or 'Man of Golden Words'. And some Temple of the Dog covers would be great - 'All Night Thing' would be a great mellow set closer... and they could do 'Stolen Prayers'... ... and 'Seasons'... ... .. . This acoustic thread is a pretty hard subject to comment on - it's doing my fucking head in! I'm too full of contradictions! Later, Brydon - 'I wanna ride upon a five mile tide of surprise and oblivion, Come rain or shine I'm waiting at the front line... ' ------------------------------ From: ShRooMGrLz@aol.com Subject: Eat the shroom and kiss the snake goodnight... Heheheh... that's the line that SHOULD have been in PN. Anyway, I hadn't posted in a few days, so I thought I'd check in. Guess what kiddies? I leave for Seattle in exactly 11 hours! Go me! I'm FINALLY on my way to the promised land! And (of course) I'm going to be imagining rock stars in EVERY corner. Heheheheh... ;-) I'll keep my eyes open for silver Porsches and red cargo vans. And don't worry... if I spot anything interesting, you people will be the first to find out. I'll be carrying my computer with me EVERYWHERE. Heheheh... ;-) Oh yeah, I wanted to tell you people the latest parental/Soundgarden/insult thing to have happened. Yesterday I went with my parents to the mall for the first time in three years. They had offered to be so kind as to pick me up a few things for my trip. And of course I got the whole "We're the best parents in the whole world, and you should get down on your knees every hour and thank God that you were born to us. Say that we're the best parents in the world. Say it again. Heheheh... it's fun to have parental power." speech. Jeez, and you people wonder just WHY I'm twisted. Anyway, I had stopped in a Halloween store to check out the costume stuff, and what's the first thing my padre grabbed? This caveman looking mask thingy with lots of spiky longish hair and facial fuzzies. I *KNEW* what was coming as soon as he picked it up. He snickers, holds the mask high above his head, and yells across the store to me "HEY SHROOMY!! IS THIS WHO I THINK IT IS??" I CRINGE and try to make myself invisible. I would have left the store, but I was in the back... and Padre was blocking the exit. He spots me trying to hide, and yells "ISN'T THIS THAT HAIRBALL THAT YOU'RE SO IN LOVE WITH, SHROOMY? THAT SOUNDGARDEN GUY?" Of course, by now EVERYONE in the store is staring at both Padre and I. I finally run over to him and try to grab the mask. He waves it around with this completely EVIL grin on his face, and KEEPS yelling (even though I'm right in front of him) "WHAT'S THAT SOUNDGARDEN GUYS NAME?? ISN'T IT CHRIS CORNBALL?? YEAH, ISN'T THIS THAT CHRIS CORNBALL FROM SOUNDGARDEN THAT YOU'RE IN LOVE WITH?" Oh please, just shoot me now. Put me out of my misery. AAAUUUGGHHH!! And where is my mother during all this? Standing to the side, LAUGHING like this was the funniest thing she's ever seen in her whole life. Finally I just ran out of the store, and went to hide in the food court. They caught up with me while I was trying to drown my sorrows in egg rolls and lemonade. And as soon as I begin to gripe them out for embarrassing me, they start with the "You can't be mad at us, we took you to the mall and bought you stuff. And besides, we're your parents. We're entitled to a little fun for all the years of trouble you gave us when you were a teenager. Don't think of this as torture, think of it as retribution." spiel. WHAT TROUBLE?!? I was a MODEL teenager! I never gave them a MOMENT of trouble in my LIFE!!! Anyway, I just wanted to share that little moment with you people, as you guys are the only ones who would understand. I REALLY want to know why my parents are the ONLY people who can manage to embarrass me like that? AAAUUUUGGHHHHH!! Heheheh... oh well... only 11 hours until I leave!!! YAAAAAAAY!!! Shroom Red Haired Devil-Hootchie, Proud member of the Kim Thayil Mercenary Squad, and Seattle-bound-obsessed-SOMMS-psycho (See you in a couple days Chris, Kim, Ben, Matt and Hiro!!!) HEY MATT!!! Y'know, a bunch of us SOMMSters will be at the Truly show on Friday night (the 25th)... and a few of us are STILL planning on being at the OK Hotel on the evening of the 28th. If you are so kind as to show up, we PROMISE to get you highly inebriated and take advantage of yo... ummm... get you highly inebriated. Heheheh... "Shroom, what in the hell is going on here? Why is my drummer tied to his drum kit like that? And what's Caryn doing with that chocolate sauce?? I THOUGHT YOU WORSHIPPED *MY* SEXY BODY!!! This is sooooo wrong! Matt, get the hell out of here! Tie ME up instead! AND WHERE'S THE WHIPPED CREAM??!?" ~ Chris Cornell (Words not necessarily said in that order...) <~~~ my disclaimer ------------------------------ From: Todd Yowell Subject: Tool I know that tool is playing kansas city ks. on nov.11th but they are not opening for SG. on that night unless someone has 411 on wheather SG is coming also that night because they sure in the hell havn't said any thing about coming here yet. TODD ------------------------------ From: Gonzo Subject: Aragon nov 9 tickets,Jason E. e-mail me at jgg@pilot.msu.edu if you need 1 or 2 Tickets for soundgarden at the Aragon ballroom on Sat. Nov.9.I just received my ticket from this guy who has 2 tickets left to sell. Gonzo ------------------------------ From: ShRooMGrLz@aol.com Subject: Hats and shirts and Geeks, oh my!! Ok kiddies... here's the scoop on your SOMMS merchandise. Dena just called me a few minutes ago and told me (she threatened to kick me if I refused. Just kidding!) to write the list and tell all of y'all that your merchandise in IN THE MAIL. Everything turned out EXCELLENT, so everyone should be very pleased with it all. She WOULD write to you herself, but those wild fires in her neighborhood seem to have affected her phone lines. Of couse, the lines WOULD fuck up right while we were talking last night. Hey, she lives in California. What do you expect? Heheheh... anyway, be watching your mail for your hats and shirts and Chris Cornell inflatable dolls. Ummm... oops... mybad. I forgot that the CC dolls were limited edition, so not all of you could get them. ;-) Damn me. Ok, forget I mentioned the dolls. But keep your eyes open for the next line of SOMMS merchandise: - - Chris Cornell shower curtains - - Matt Cameron snap-on arms (For the drummer who can't hang with the big dogs.) - - Ben Shepherd's "10-step guide to hawking the perfect loogy, and aiming instructions" - - Kim Thayil fake beards (They're acrylic. No actual beards or rock stars were harmed in the making of this product.) - - Nothingman shirts (Preferred by nudists everywhere!) Shroomy "Can I get one of those inflatable dolls of myself, Shroom? I'm so sexy, how could I NOT want one? Now that I have one... I'll probably never leave the house again!!" ~ Chris Cornell (Words not necessarily said in that order...) <~~~ my disclaimer - - And who could blame the guy? I wouldn't leave the house if I had a CC doll, either. Heheheh... ;-) ------------------------------ From: Caryn Rose Subject: seattle weather report On Wed, 23 Oct 1996 ShRooMGrLz@aol.com wrote: > Heheheh... that's the line that SHOULD have been in PN. Anyway, I > hadn't posted in a few days, so I thought I'd check in. Guess what kiddies? > I leave for Seattle in exactly 11 hours! Go me! I'm FINALLY on my way to > the promised land! a warning to the hordes who are decending up on our fair city: IT'S COLD! argh! we skipped fall and went directly into winter. ;-( and it's fucking raining EVERY DAY, i suppose some of you are saying, 'of course it is, it's seattle' but the truth is that it rains more in New York than it does here and right now it's feeling exactly like NYC. so dress warmly; bring sweaters & raingear. regarding deborah's report of the guys buying into a bar with the sub pop honchos, i wonder if that isn't the entertainment complex that they've been talking about for a while now? i know that jonathan bought an old building on capitol hill, near the comet/moe axis. this seems to be a trend - mike mc cready recently partnered with pearl jam's manager, kelly curtis (as well as someone else) to open a pool hall/restaurant called the garage (also near the comet/moe axis). hell, if i was a rock star and got rich, i'd sure as hell open some kind of bar or club too. ;-) later, - --caryn ------------------------------ From: Seth Ward Subject: I'm together with your plan Hello Again! Many thanks for the input regarding my Soundgarden Unplugged curiousities. I guess I never really expected it to be something they would do, but hey, it would be fun. Just for the record, no one really thought that it would be a bad idea, so that's cool. Someone also mentioned that a SG unplugged would stand to reason (within eMpTyV logic, anyway!) because of the previous PJ, AIC, and Nirvana shows. There are other bands from that genre that I would love to see do a show like that (SCREAMING TREES!!!!! yesyesyes...please?), but most of them don't get very much, if any, air time on that filthy station anyway, so that's out. Besides, I think that Seattle is *untrendy* now, isn't it? God forbid that MTV do something daring and break from this pop-radio mold that we seem to be stuck in. WHOA, I'd better stop before I get agitated. Okay, that's better. Maybe some humor would help. Here goes...Last week I was listening to DOTU when my mom came home for lunch. When she walked in, Boot Camp was just starting. After about a minute of this (BTW my mom is 42 and grooves on SG and Nirvana in a big way) she looks at the stereo for a second, and then looks at me and says, "Since when do you listen to Pink Floyd?" I laughed my ass off. I guess for not really knowing any better, it wasn't _that_ big of a motherly misconception (it does kinda have that sound) but it was still pretty damn funny the way she said it! Have a nice Day A different Seth "The past is gone, and now my heart must live..." From 'Distress' by Palindrome Lyrics by Kevin Jones ------------------------------ From: Joe Cennamo Subject: Re: Jason Everman My nirvana friend claimed he was the drummer for Nirvana. Sometime before Chad, and dave. I thought that Chris always played bass for Nirvana. joec ------------------------------ From: Joe Cennamo Subject: Re: Jason Everman On Wed, 23 Oct 1996, Brydon Cheyney CS95 wrote: > > > Which brings up a few questions, Was Jason Everman in the Band? If so for > > how long, he wasn't on any of the albums, did he tour with them? Is it the > > same Jason Everman who played drums for Nirvana? > > Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Jason the back-up *GUITARIST* for Nirvana? > Dale Crover and Chad Channing both drummed in early Nirvana, but I'm pretty > sure that wasn't Jason's post. I'm fairly sure he's credited with rhythm > guitar on some Nirvana release, 'Bleach' maybe? I'm sure there are four > members listed on the back of the album cover... > > Later, > Brydon > - 'I wanna ride upon a five mile tide of surprise and oblivion, > Come rain or shine I'm waiting at the front line... ' > I'm still confused, Is anyone really sure about what he did in Nirvana? joec ------------------------------ From: CAMPBELLCG@bvu.edu Subject: shrooms story I've been in this exclusive club now for 3 days and it has suddenly come to my attention that shroom is a freakin nut. That's so cool! As for the unplugged, why the hell not, although I think MTV is shying away from the over(their words not mine) Seattle scene. If you ask me it's not over, just expanded to cover most of northwest Washington, and the rest of the universe. But anyway, I thing they could put on a hell of an unplugged in two ways. One: Make everything really dark and focus on slower, heavier, songs, with a really dark background (Imean really dark, like one candle for each member) and be kind of quiet. Or they could Two: take faster song and slow the hell out of them. Like a slow, acoustic Rusty Cage. I know it sounds weird at first, but think about what Nirvana did with Meat Puppets Lake of Fire. Mostly I agree with the set lists so far, but I would want to hear a little Zero Chance, which isn't all that far off on DOTUS. Well gotta go going to the Pumpkins in Ames(yes I'm from Iowa) tonight. Biff ------------------------------ From: al589314@campus.cegs.itesm.mx (Alba) Subject: RE: boys n girls...... >I think I am just the opposite. I think I like SG and a lot of the other >bands that I like who play what I consider heavy aggressive music because I >have trouble expressing my own aggression or whatever. Well, you are not the only one who feels in that way. I think music (any music) express what we are. In my case, music helps me to get out of my troubles and it gets me out of bad moods... >I see the future, menopause will hit, I'll run amok (picture the movie >Serial Mom), and everyone who knows me will say, "gee, she was always so >quiet, and nice". wow, how optimistic you are girl!!! BTW, I'm female and don't you think that I'm 20 'cause I'm 15 ( some people think that I'm older....) Alba atte. Yo Mera ------------------------------ From: Luck's Last Match Subject: i'll try to meet you by the old highway.... What's the most obscure sg song i've heard on the radio? Let's see, there was "Girl U Want", "Come Together" (sg's versiion), "Into the Void (Stealth)", "Fresh Deadly Roses", "Stray Cat Blues", and i'm sure there were some more. The day of Lolla in Rockingham, while i was driving out of Raleigh towards Rockingham on old Highway 1, The NSCU station, WKNC decided to have a lolla day and played a bunch of RAGE and then a bunch of sg bsides. Unfortunately, WKNC (88.1) faded away before sg's set was finished. :( But that was ok because i knew i would see sg later that day. Adrenalin rocks. Except on a two lane no passing road. laters. -j "Stand up and everyone will see your holiness" -Soundgarden. ------------------------------ From: endless_nameless@prodigy.com (GRRL NIKI FREER) Subject: girls and SG... > Without making a rash generalization, I would think that most women who really enjoy SG are strong in terms of expressing their individuality... wow, i totally agree here on this one. and on the other comment about the lack of female SG fans. well, there might be a lack, but i personally don't think that it has anything to do with the band's aggression or anything of that sort. most people just think of SG as the "black hole sun" band, sadly!, but they do. so when i rant and rave about how there's only 29 days until i see SG in philly (!!!!!!!!), really none of my girl friends get it. so, but, since that made no sense, i'll say this: i love the way SG sounds. they are pure beauty to me, just what a band really should be in a sense of chemistry and friendship (for lack of better descriptions at this time). and i am totally into the lyrics that ALL of them write, not just chris's. i love Kim's and matt's and ben's as well. they (SG) make you think, they keep you on yr toes, wondering what this means and that could stand for. wondering how in hell did chris get his voice to do THAT! it's just one of the things that can hold my attention longer than most other stuff. SG just intrigues me infinately. and that's why i'm a female fan. :) (not just cause chris is one sexy man) ;) mind riot ____ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ i'm tied within i'm luck's last match struck in the pouring down wind... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ From: Stephanie Valahovic Subject: Re: Subject: Acoustic Tues, Oct 22, 96 About the Unplugged thing..... > From: Seth Ward > >...I am the rest of you SOMMSsters have to say. > > 1) Do you think SG would ever do an Unplugged show? Nope, not as long as Kim is their guitarist. Don't get me wrong I think Kim is capable of it. I just don't think his particular approach to the guitar would lend itself very well to an Unplugged performance. What do you Think? > 2) Would that make you happy, or would it > disappoint you? It really wouldn't affect me either way. I like Soundgarden alot, but I don't get upset about what they say or do or don't do. It's their ballgame, if they think it's a good idea, and their up to it they'll do it. Stephanie Valahovic P.S If you haven't seen my name on the Mailing list, it's because I'm new and I'm a digest version type individual. ------------------------------ From: stimpy1@netvision.net.il Subject: Re:hmmmm Hi cornell i think u can get the single in the shops but i think u should w8 about a week till the shops will get it ok??? take care now byebye then!!! - ------------------------------------- E-mail: stimpy1@netvision.net.il Date: 10/23/96 Time: 2:15:07 PM This message was sent by Chameleon - ------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: "Jen Kern" Subject: current thread Well, being a female I thought I would respond to the female SG fan comment. I would have to say in describing myself I am far from being overly outgoing. I've always been more reserved, quiet, more of an observer than the actual go getter.........yet I love loud, heavy, thick music. To me, SG is very passionate music--it's very soulful and even though my meanings and interpretations maybe different than others or what the band intended...it means a lot to me personally. The music takes me away to wherever I want to be at that moment (much better than a Calgon bath) the lyrics....(sometimes I pay attention to them, sometimes I don't) are just kind of like my tour guide on this journey the music is taking me on. If I may quote our favorite band here "If this isn't making sense, it doesn't make it lies....." and "First it steals your mind and then it steals your soul." Amen to that! Wow. Okay. I guess I kind of lied. I am a very kicked back, usually pretty mellow person, but SG does get me going. Well, I gotta run.......I think I'm in need of a little SG care... I.better go put in JCP, kick back and get ready to be taken away! JEN ------------------------------ From: mshaw@lib.occ.cccd.edu (RoseeMisst) Subject: Re: In a striking motion, trees fall down........a (new?) thread >Hi everyone, > >Today was a remarkable one, for a while, anyway. On the radio, sometime >around 1.30 pm, "Hands All Over" was played! (on Triple J, for Aussie >listers). This was the first time I'd heard a song from pre-BMF on the >radio. It really gave me a thrill to hear it, and to hear it announced >after the song. A couple of weeks ago, at about the same time of day, >"Rusty Cage" came on. I thought that was excellent too, it being my >favourite Soundgarden song and all. > >Hearing those pre-Black Hole Sun/Spoonman songs got me wondering - what is >the most "unmainstream"/oldest SG song YOU'VE heard within the last year >on radio? And what kind of a buzz did it give YOU to hear it? Were you >like me, feeling proud, as if this were a song you had created yourself? >Did you feel like saying, "hey - this band is just BRILLIANT! This is MY >band!" :-) I feel that way when I hear songs on the radio by only two >bands in this world - Violent Femmes, and Soundgarden. Does any other >band give YOU the same feeling as Soundgarden when you hear their songs >played in public? > >I'd be interested in some feedback here, folks! :-) > >Cheers >Carolyn the la Muy Fuerte [welcome back, Urbano] >Hands all over the words I utter - change them into what you want >to.....Soundgarden Oh, the luck of some people. I'm from Southern California, and I know I've mentioned this before, but we lost our hard rock radio station more than a year ago. I no longer get to hear Soundgarden songs that aren't mainstream on commercial radio. I remember hearing Loud Love, Jesus Christ Pose and Outshined, before SG got more mainstream with Superunknown. I think it's amazing that you get to hear "Hands All Over" on the radio. I have the SG CD's, but it does give me an unexplained feeling when a radio station I like plays my favorite songs that no one else plays. That's what my old radio station(KNAC 105.5) did for me. NO ONE ELSE on LA radio played Metallica, Rollins Band, or hardcore Nirvana. I'm stuck with commericial radio, until someone in LA comes up with a good radio station. By the way, other artists who give me an "overwhelming feeling" when I hear them on the radio are most new wave '80s bands, Jeff Buckley, Pearl Jam, Tool, Ambient artists with crazy technical creativity, A Tribe Called Quest, and many other bands, too many to name as not to bore you all with my list. RoseeMisst - -- Orange Coast College Costa Mesa California ------------------------------ From: mshaw@lib.occ.cccd.edu (RoseeMisst) Subject: Re: In a striking motion, trees fall down........a (new?) thread >on a side note....has any one else noticed that there is a deficite of >female fans, not on the list but in the world in general...it seems like >women just dont get into them like guys do and i wonder why that is... Yeah, it seems that way. It seems like a lot of females are into more mellow bands like Smashing Pumpkins or The Cranberries. I don't want to sound stereotyping, but that's just the way it seems. Now, there may be some girls out there just recently getting into Soundgarden just because Chris is a babe(whooo, mama!) but really, the band is outstanding. They sound like no one else. I'ts a wonder that there aren't too many SG clones out there like there were for Nirvana. I am more into SG than some guys I know... RoseeMisst - -- Orange Coast College Costa Mesa California ------------------------------ From: mshaw@lib.occ.cccd.edu (RoseeMisst) Subject: Re: Do we have to just like Barbie or what??? >On Oct 22, 1996 08:30:14, 'Dee Dee ' wrote: > > >>i bring that up in part because a friend of mine introduced me to his >>girlfriend the other day...and to my amazement she is into SG. > > This summer a friend's brother's stayed with us and I met his wife for >the first time. I really liked her from the start and late the first >evening she was here she said out of the clear blue,"Do you like Chris with >long hair or short?" I knew she was good people. We watched Soundgarden >videos, drank beer and had a great time!! Too bad she lives far away! > As far as Soundgarden on the radio. One of our stations has free form >friday and will play whatever people request. A couple of Fridays ago I had >one of those mornings when everything went wrong, I had to work on my day >off and I was stuck in traffic on the way to work. I was in a terrible >mood. some caller says, "could you play Rusty Cage by Soundgarden?" My >heart leapt when I heard the opening notes of one of my fave songs. I >swear to you the traffic opened up and I was whizzing along at 65mph head >bangin all the way(OK as much as my old neck muscles can head bang) Once >again the Soundgarden gods had smiled down upon me! toni Now, this is mail that makes me feel really good. RoseeMisst - -- Orange Coast College Costa Mesa California ------------------------------ From: mshaw@lib.occ.cccd.edu (RoseeMisst) Subject: Re: Acoustic >Anyway, that is my opinion, and I am quite interested to hear what the the >rest of you SOMMSsters have to say. > 1) Do you think SG would ever do an Unplugged show? > 2) Would that make you happy, or would it >dissappoint you? > 3) What would be a good set list for such a show? > >This is not an official survey, just something to feed my curiousity. If >anyone wants to keep track, feel free. > > All for now, > A Different Seth > > "If the sky fell down on me, I'd be an astronaut" From 'Maybe' by >Palindrome Since MTV had Oasis(who really suck, in my opinion) and Alice In Chains do Unplugged, I have been thinking about SG doing unplugged. I hardly watch MTV anymore; they don't play videos! But I would DEFINITELY WATCH SG do Unplugged! I would give you a set list--an idea of what I would like them to play, but I like suprises! RoseeMisst - -- Orange Coast College Costa Mesa California ------------------------------ From: Josh_Garza@teachnet.edb.utexas.edu (Josh Garza) Subject: Re: Jason Everman Yes its the same Jason Everman who played as a second guitarist in Nirvana for a short time.. Even Ben was a part of nirvana as a guitarist for a short tour... correct me if i'm wrong... though i don't think he actually got to play with them... kind of weird... I never knew Jason was also part of the link between the early days of SG and Nirvana.... - -- - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- TeachNet, College of Education, University of Texas, Austin Texas - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ From: Caryn Rose Subject: Re: Duets On Wed, 23 Oct 1996, RoseeMisst wrote: > >Eddie Vedder once said he'd like to duet with Chris. An obvious choice, I > >guess, but I don't know what they would sing. > > Well, there was Temple of The Dog, and Vedder sang background on Hunger > Strike, but that really wasn't a duet. It would be nice if there was > another mixing-of-the-bands like TOTD, but this time, have Kim on lead > guitar, keep Jeff Ament on bass, involve any other possible PJ/SG members, > but definitely get Cornell and Vedder to sing TOGETHER. Just a thought. well, they *have* dueted... during lolla '92, eddie would often come out and sing backup (okay, not really a duet) on stuff like 'outshined', and chris would often return the favor during pj's set. every time it happened, it was magical. ;-) i know that everyone in the pj camp was a-buzz about a possible ToTD reunion at lolla this summer. PJ specifically said that it would NOT happen. and hell, eddie was at the washington state lolla! oh well. - --caryn ------------------------------ From: mshaw@lib.occ.cccd.edu (RoseeMisst) Subject: Re: Duets >I don't know if this is an new topic, Seth, (or whether after six weeks of >posts I am still a newbie - what's the cut off date?) but can anyone imagine >Chris ever recording a duet? Who would it be and what song, and why? > >Eddie Vedder once said he'd like to duet with Chris. An obvious choice, I >guess, but I don't know what they would sing. >UK Deb Well, there was Temple of The Dog, and Vedder sang background on Hunger Strike, but that really wasn't a duet. It would be nice if there was another mixing-of-the-bands like TOTD, but this time, have Kim on lead guitar, keep Jeff Ament on bass, involve any other possible PJ/SG members, but definitely get Cornell and Vedder to sing TOGETHER. Just a thought. RoseeMisst - -- Orange Coast College Costa Mesa California ------------------------------ From: mshaw@lib.occ.cccd.edu (RoseeMisst) Subject: Re: Sisters in Soundgarden >Following on from Taylor's thread about the lack of female Soundgarden fans, >can Seth tell us what percentage of somms members are female? It seems to >me that a lot of the regular posts are from women > >Eliza >Toni >Deb Servey >Caryn >Sabrina >Dee Dee >Shroom >Kathie >Jamie >Monnica >Roseemist (?) >ME!!! >UK Deb Hey, thank you for putting me on the list. I thought it was funny that you questioned my sex. I was very much female the last time I checked! RoseeMisst - -- Orange Coast College Costa Mesa California ------------------------------ From: Johnathan Tanner Subject: Unplugged would kick ass!! I have been saying every since the Unplugged show started that = Soundgarden should do it. They have the talent and the popularity to do = this show if MTV would give them the chance. I think if they did it the = playlist should include some of their lesser known stuff ( in other = words not Blackhole Sun and Spoonman) maybe some of these would work Outshined Zero Chance Fell on Black Days 4th of July Burden in MY Hand Rusty Cage Slaves and Bulldozers Room a Thousand Years Wide Mailman Overflaoter Limo Wreck Hunger Strike (special guest Eddie Vedder) ------------------------------ From: mshaw@lib.occ.cccd.edu (RoseeMisst) Subject: I'M JUST A BABY WHO LOOKS LIKE A GIRL... Forgive me if the message was already sent...my computer froze and I had to restart it. Macs are terrible when it comes to technical problems. Anyway, the song "Never Named" has been on my mind lately. Whenever I hear that song nowadays, I think of Seth's pix of Chris as a child: (www.sgi.net/soungdgarden/images/1969.jpg). I know it's a cliche saying, but I can't help it: HE'S SOOO CUTE! Of all of the SG songs that I can hardly decipher, Never Named is a straitforward song for me. This is how I interpret the lyrics: NOW I'M BIG LIKE THE SKY AND I'M DOWN SIZED INSIDE... I'M JUST A BABY WHO LOOKS LIKE A BOY Yeah, I feel like that too nowadays. I'm 19, legally an adult, but I still feel small, with no significant authority. AND I'LL KEEP HANGING FROM YOUR HAIR AND I'LL KEEP PLAYING IN THE SAND JUST AS LONG AS I CAN Ah, I'm still blessed with being young. I want to do things in my life to keep a fresh mind--not to grow up how society wants me to be, for society's teachings condition us, and make us think that growing up is growing old (at least in the US). RoseeMisst - -- Orange Coast College Costa Mesa California ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Acoustic From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) > 1) Do you think SG would ever do an Unplugged show? YES, YES, YES, and I want to be in the front row.. :-) > 2) Would that make you happy, or would it > dissappoint you? Happy, happy, happy day!!! To hear and see the band playing without all the distraction that goes on doing a normal concert would be so fine. It would be like drowning in the sound of their music. > 3) What would be a good set list for such a show? Flutter Girl Outshined Into the Void (Sealth) Girl U Want Fell On Black Days Overfloater Karaoke Missing Seasons All Night Thing (TOTD cover) Mountain (Tonic cover) Jamie (Village Idiot working way to late) ------------------------------ Subject: San Diego tickets From: seth I've been told by several people that San Diego tickets go on sale October 26, so I'm adding that date to the Web page. If anyone has heard otherwise, please let me know. seth ------------------------------ From: Caryn Rose Subject: geoff kleemola (sorry seth, but his email address from the member directory bounced) geoff, could you pls write me privately? i have an offer to make you ;-) - --caryn ------------------------------ From: eliza Subject: take the word and pass it on... >>if anything I'd love to see a cover of 'Cloe Dancer/Crown of Thorns' - 'All Night Thing' would be a great mellow set closer... and they could do 'Stolen Prayers'... ... and 'Seasons'... ... Brydon chose 4 of my absolute pics for an unplugged show....Chloe/Crown is one of the most beautiful songs ever, All Night Thing would be an amazing mood setter (particularly with the candles someone mentioned), and SP and Seasons would be killers....i think? who knows? will we ever know? inquisitive minds wanna know! I have no idea where or when, but I definitely once heard or read Chris say they would never do it....but that was then, so who knows. Oh, and Zero Chance would have to be in there....As another thought, i would LOVE to see Chris do a solo acoustic performance of the entire "Songs for Ozzy" "....now talk about dream come true - --eliza "It's 106 miles to Chicago. We've got a full tank of gas, half a packet of cigarettes, it's dark and we're wearing sunglasses. Hit it." --Joliet Jake and Elwood Blues hehe, thanks Ross.....15 days to go!! ------------------------------ Subject: Real Fan or Not!!! From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) Is there a law that states that you're not a real fan if you don't have everything a band puts out??? I purchased the Australia single (yeah mine has the birth control mistake) and I'm thinking "WHY"!!! I mean I have all the songs on this single why should I have it again. Will I be drummed out of the SOMMs mailing list if I don't have each and every CD/vinyl that Soundgarden puts out?? And why did I have to have tapes of all their CD (original tapes not copies). If that's not bad enough I'm going to fly to Chicago (probable get trampled in the mosh pit) to see SG for two nights, then come home and see them again in a week. This is not normal for someone of my advanced years and so call intelligence's. Of course my family has been considering having me committed - especially after they learned of my Chicago and Christmas plans hahahahaha. I'm really fine Mom I've been taking all of my medications - got to get the " BUtOW" UK CD singles and vinyl 7" hahahaha!!!! And to put the icing on the old (yep Toni I'm older than you ;-P) cake one of the guards here at work just made his 10:00PM tour of a supportively empty building only to find me and my sound blasting PC screaming and singing alone with Soundgarden and Tonic... He wanted to know if I was okay - Why sure haha!!! Now about this females who like Soundgarden are out going thingy.. I want you all to know I'm a respectable, shy, upper middle class (is that politically correct any more), mature lady who loves her music loud, raw, and poetic. Now ya all (that in my best southern accent) must excuse me I'm going home - got the old maze gun in hand and heading out into the dark of the night... Jamie (Chicago Bound Village Idiot - Writer of Crap and Wonder Wall Lover) ------------------------------ From: Aleko Subject: Re: Acoustic I think Soundgarden could do a great Unpluged show. They have said they wouldn't do it but they may change their minds. It would mean another Soundgarden release, that's always good. "Rock n' roll doesn't have a soul, just a dick and a wallet" --- Kim Thayil ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: faq updates... On Wed, 23 Oct 1996, infinite wrote: > i sent feedback concerning jason everman to the people w/ the > faq, but i guess i'm ignored or something.. you weren't ignored. I just haven't gotten around to replying to your query yet. the correction (my thanks to all the people who pointed this one out) will definitely be in the first update, which will hit the shelves around november 15. hope that helps. ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide - words by kim thayil ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 2 Issue 283] ****************************************