From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Sunday, 13 Oct 1996 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Sun, 13 Oct 1996 03:07:36 EDT Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Sunday, 13 Oct 1996 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: European Tour Diary You'd think by now... Barrowlands gig re: poetry class Re: European Tour Diary Re: European Tour Diary Re: European Tour Diary Re: European Tour Diary Re: Seattle, Hater on Halloween my first time.... bob dole and stuff got tickets got tickets got tickets! Re: European Tour Diary Re: Soundgarden Digest, Saturday, 12 Oct 1996 Re: You'd think by now... i'm a big dummy Re: uuuhhhh..... newbies Soundgarden is coming to San Francisco!! Telecomunications Act Re: uuuhhhh..... newbies Happy happy Shroom Girl... Re: uuuhhhh..... newbies DoTU digipack RE: somms 'no code' poll More Salt Lake City tickets needed Sounds like........ RE: Peace and Love RE: Shirtgate revisited #34 ------------------------------------------------------------ From: seth Subject: European Tour Diary OK everyone, this is Vikki's (vikki@u.washington.edu) tour diary from her travels in Europe. She sent it to me as a Word document and asked me to convert it to plain text and send it to the list, so here it is. If you don't read every last word of this, it will be your loss. Vikki, this is an *amazing* journal; thanks for sharing it with all of us. Read on... WOLVERHAMPTON (18/09/96) 5:30pm I'm standing at the stage entrance of the Civic Hall with six SG fans and three 'autograph seekers'. Ben, Matt and Chris have only been inside for minutes -- I've just missed them. I'm told Ben went straight inside, Matt smiled easily as he signed and Chris was accommodating until the seekers swamped him, at which point he threw his hands in the air, shook his head 'no' and abruptly left. Twenty minutes pass and security cautions us that Kim is about to be escorted into the venue: 'Don't approach him - he's tired and not in the mood for autograph signing or pictures. Step back and maybe he'll come out after soundcheck.' Security spread eagle to form a human barrier as Kim steps from the bus zipping a thin black jacket for the twenty five foot journey from tour bus to stage door. He's got on his 'Mr. Grumpy Face' and removes a fist from its jacket pocket. He lifts the fist to his face and begins rubbing his sleepy eyes like a small child. (Aw, Kimmy is so adawable.) As he comes nearer, I say, "Hi, Kim" and we all wave. He lifts his head quickly and the Sun offends him. Bleary-eyed and squinting, he responds to us with a nod of acknowledgment and a return wave as he's guided through the doorway. Fifteen seconds later, security leans halfway out the door and says, "Thanks guys." (...a very professional/polite staff.) Meanwhile, an enthusiastic gothic girl absorbs the KT encounter and flips out, screaming, "Kim Thayil waved to me! My God! Kim waved to me!" Streaming from the crevices of the venue, it is evident that Chris's voice is, as they say in the U.K., 'brilliant'. A miraculous moment of the preparatory jamming was hearing 'Kristi' used as a segue into 'Slaves & Bulldozers' (a transition I was disappointed they didn't utilize during the show). Alas, soundcheck is over. It's getting late and no second coming of Kim. 7:00pm Doors open. I'm searched and handed a flyer warning that surfers will be fined and/or prosecuted so I opt for a barrier position between Chris and Ben. 7:30pm Eleven perform a solid 30 minute set. 8:10pm Moby is a surprise crowd pleaser. I'm pulled on stage to dance with him and temporarily lose my place at the barrier. 9:25pm The photographer from Kerrang is set up. We spot Kim hovering stage right and go nuts. The rest of the guys pour onto the stage and Chris, amused at the enthusiasm for Kim, begins the show with, "Ladies and gentleman, Kim Thayil!" They launch into 'Spoonman' and I'm lifted off my feet. The crush against the barrier flexes my rib cage like a thigh master. My hips and knees are bruising. I can't breathe. Chris said, "Nobody's going to get hurt tonight." I'm not as sure as he is. It takes me 'Spoonman', 'Searching...' and 'Let Me Drown' to get past the fact that Chris is thinner than he was for Lollapalooza. My eyes are fixed on his slim, bare fingers. He isn't wearing his wedding bands and I find his hands strangely unsettling without the marital loops. I watch him intently and find relief in the strong vocals and energy he projected throughout the show. (So he looks like Hell spit him up like a shot of tequila and sour milk but the man is healthy.) His feigning of emotion during 'BHS' is impressive and he graciously takes in the fact that the beauty of the extended 'Boot Camp' is lost on the crowd with a broad smile and an 'oh, well, I tried' shake of his head. Matt's sticks escape him a couple of times (or he intentionally tossed them?). In either case, he recovered with precision. Ben wasn't especially mobile on the small stage so he occupied himself and amused us by staring down his speakers with cross-eyed contortions. He also gave us his water. (THANK YOU BEN!) Chris found a Mother Love Bone T-shirt tossed to his feet which he displayed for us high above his head. There also seemed to be a lot of inside jokes passing between the guys. Lastly, the only thing I heard before I almost died was Chris say, "Matthew". Take note that this is the bands cue for the 'JCP' finale and a clue to pit participants to call into play they're survival instincts and common sense. It means, 'HOLD THE FUCK ON FOR YOUR LIFE'. The stellar set is over, they're gone. A helpful security guard requests the set list for me from a roadie but we're told firmly, "It stays with the band." It's time to check out the T-shirt stand and I think to myself, 'Frank Kozik had no part in creating any of this.' Nonetheless, I had to buy the navy blue knapsack with the silver, white and black 'Pretty Noose' silhouettes sewn into the flap so I'd have something to carry all the boring T-shirts home in. 12:00am It's nearly an hour after the show and a decreasing posse of fans are huddled in the doorway of the Civic Hall stage entrance seeking autographs and shelter from the wind. We're told the band will not be exiting for some time and that when they do it will not be from this stairwell. The door is sealed with a steal gate and latch to reinforce the point. Although I'm unsure of the exit door they'll use, I do in fact know they'll be coming out shortly. I know this because a roadie just deposited a large cardboard tray in their tour bus. As he disembarks and passes me I say, "That was beer for the band, wasn't it." He smiles widely, "Yes it was." FACT: Where there is beer, there is Soundgarden. So I wait. Ten eternal minutes pass. The driver flips on the engine of the large bus and heads around the venue. We follow. We wait. Security emerges. 'The band is coming out. Form an orderly line. One thing signed. One photo. If we swarm, they go.' We stand anxiously in our orderly line for ten more minutes. I've lost my motor functions to the weather. I can't feel my fingers, my nose is running and my knees and jaw are chattering independently of my will. But I see Chris and Kim being ushered down the small staircase toward us. The door is held open for them. Chris is bent deep at the waist, quickly dragging twice on a new cigarette before tossing it to the pavement. He steps forward like the guest of honor at a surprise party -- with an embarrassed smile and an exaggerated wave. Before he's through the door a camera flash blinds him. He stops short and Kim rear-ends him like a caboose. Kim, attached to Chris' back, is trying to make it around him through the doorway. He puts a flat left palm on Chris's back and a firm right hand on his shoulder and gives Chris a guiding shove to the left tip of our line. Kim takes the right tip - that would be me. We exchange 'hellos' and I hand Kim my ticket stub. He flips it front to back, searching for an appropriate place to sign. He checks with me before writing, (pointing to the face of the stub), "Here?" Me: "Sure." Kim: "OK" (signs quickly) The girl next to me hands Kim a T-shirt. Kim: (sarcastic and smiling) "These are always fun to sign." (he makes an unsuccessful attempt) "I need somebody's back." (I spin and flip my hair forward.) As he smoothes the T-shirt over my back he insinuatingly says, "Oow, I'm using her back." I take the opportunity to say, "I'm Vikki from SOMMS." Kim: "Do I know SOMMS?" Me: "Of course you do. Seth's list." Kim: "Oh, I do know SOMMS." (finishes signing and slowly repeats my introduction) "Vikki...from...SOMMS." (Kim Thayil said my name! My God! Kim said my name! I'm fine.) Me: "Everybody says 'thank you' and the KTMS, Kim Thayil Mercenary Squad, says 'hi'." Kim: (bug eyed and smiling) "The Kim Thayil Mercenary Squad, they're crazy!" Me: (nodding) "You saw the sign at Lollapalooza?" Kim: (still smiling) "Yeah, 'Free Kim Thayil'. That was funny. I was already free, but it was cool." Chris is mid-line and about to encounter Mr. Drunk Dude who hands Chris a boomerang. (I have no idea. Neither does Chris.) Chris is bent close to inspect the unusual item and with immaculate care to detail, attaches his name to the object. He unslouches (which means, 'I'm done') and holds it up for MDD to approve. MDD: "Cool." Chris waits for MDD to reach for the boomerang and with a grin of pure mischief -- SWISH! -- Chris flings the thing through the air and down the block. MDD: (holding his head) "Oh no, man!" Kim, Chris, security and the ten of us all intently watch the precision toss carry the boomerang to the end of the dark street where it pitches high-left. We lose sight of it. It's either on the roof of the building next door or in the street behind the bus. Kim, like an enthusiastic kid, tries to run into the street behind the tour bus to find out but security block him like football defenders, saying "He'll get it. He'll go get it." The boomerang is, in fact, recovered from behind the bus by one of MDD's more sober friends much to the dismay of T-shirt girl. Kim (with raised eyebrows to her confusion), enlightens her with a clear explanation of the phenomenon, saying slowly, "It's...a...boomerang." (The man cracks me up.) Chris is signing his way toward me. I watch his dimples flex in-and-out of existence as he scrunches his tight-skinned cheeks for better concentration. His new-found dimples are precious but he's so thin. We exchange 'hellos' and I hand him my ticket stub. I continue examining his exaggerated features and say, "Your voice sounds great, the show was wonderful." In a low, sincere tone (concentrating on his signature), he said, "Thank you." Chris has got a very specific way of speaking and I finally understand why he's so often misperceived. He uses eye contact as punctuation. 'Comma' eye contact is to check if your following what he's saying and 'period' eye-contact is to confirm that you've understood him as well as an indication that it's your turn to speak or respond. The lack of eye contact could come off as 'arrogant' but I found Chris to be a very attentive person. He listens well, absorbs what you've said, responds and then may or may not look at you depending on what he's doing (like signing a tiny ticket stub). Chris also has a constant flirtatious tone he doesn't seem to be aware of. No matter what he says it sounds like, 'I know somewhere we can go to be alone.' His breathy voice is hushed and smooth and your forced to lean in close to hear his comments. Maybe some people perceive the intimate tone as patronizing because the actual words coming out of his mouth aren't anything more than congenial. (Yes, I got all this from "Thank you.") If I thought he was speaking in a flirtatious manner to be sarcastic or insincere I'd be hurt and insulted. But it's just how he speaks. Unique...but it takes getting used to. Anyway, I'm still studying him do the dimple flexing thing when in my most 'will somebody get this man a sandwich' tone of voice, I hear myself say, "You lost, like, 50 pounds." (Augh!!) I know how much Chris hates attention to his appearance and I'm stunned to have let this fall out of my mouth. Chris freezes. He's motionless but I can see the wheels of his brain processing a response. I assume I've insulted him and literally hold my breathe. He nods final approval of his signature on my stub and as I take it from his hand his cheeks are overcome with that Mona Lisa smirk he usually reserves for idiot reporters. As he begins to sign T-shirt girl's item, he shakes his head and glances at me sideways, confirming that I'm listening. He looks back down at the T-shirt and in an almost embarrassed tone says, "I didn't know I had 50 pounds to lose." I interpret this to mean either, 'Was I ever that heavy?' or the more likely, 'I can't believe how fans perceive me.' He's not insulted, just dumbfounded. It seems he took my exaggeration of a 50 pound weight loss literally. I think about clarifying what I meant but decide to leave the subject alone. I thank him again for his time and the performance. Chris still has my favorite pen and is frustrating himself by trying to scrub some ink out of it onto the pain-in-the-ass T-shirt. Next thing I know he's holding my pen high in the air repeatedly saying, "Does anybody have a good pen? Does anybody have a pen that works?" He's squinting and his eyebrowse are twitching and furrowed and I think maybe my beloved pen is going to be the next item he'll fling down the block. I try to take it from his hand but end up with only the cap. A marker is found. I recover the pen. The T-shirt is signed and Chris quickly lifts his head like he just realized he forgot to walk the dogs. In actuality, it just occurred to him that it's 50 degrees and windy. Rubbing his arms, he starts jumping up-and-down doing a hip-swiveling pogo. He hugs himself and says, "It got COLD out here, didn't it!" Even Mr. Drunk Dude knows this means, 'I wanna get on the nice warm bus with the cold beer.' So MDD runs up behind Chris and clings to him. You all know that famous photo of Yoko Ono and a naked John Lennon clutching her in a fetal position, right? Well, Chris is Yoko and MDD is tucked under Chris' left armpit like John. Chris is blushing, his eyebrows are raised high on his forehead and he's overcome with a goofy smile that screamed, 'He's touching me!' MDD's friends snatch Chris' waist from the right in their zealousness for a group photo. Chris handles this torso tug-of-war with humor and grace. He centers himself, encompasses the gathering with his long arms and offers a huge smile. The photo is snapped, the group peals off of Chris and as most people do when they're feeling awkward, he attempts a silly joke. Swiftly patting down his pockets in mock suspicion, Chris says, "Hey, where's my wallet!?" He and Kim (laughing AT Chris) wave goodnight as they head into the bus. After a few lingering moments the ten of us deduce that Matt and Ben are long gone and we reluctantly disperse. A bright flickering from the sidewalk catches my eye. It's Chris's unextinguished cigarette. I picked it up gently and watch it glow as I stroll contentedly back to my hotel. BRIXTON (19/09/96) 7:10 pm It's raining. Susan gets out of a taxi just as we're being admitted to the venue. She nondiscretely looks us over and heads to the stage entrance. 7:20 pm I claim a front-and-center seat in the balcony and I'm thankful not to have to endure the crush of the pit on my fresh bruises from Wolverhampton. 9:25 pm An instrumental tune similar to 'Night Surf' is filtered through the speakers before the guys take the stage. Chris says something about 'riding a bike to that music.' (Night Surf II, perhaps?) Ben repeatedly did his 'March of the Wooden Soldiers' walk and Chris smashed his mic stand with, as Seth says, 'a cheese metal move' that disembodied the base. He concluded 'My Wave' with twenty quick repetitions of 'MyWaveMyWaveMyWave' which he explained with a wide smile and "I just wanted to reiterate, it's mine." He also tested our allegiance by shouting, "Bob Dole!" The British masses cheered. Chris concluded the results of his experiment to be, "I can say anything in these gigs." He also concluded something to the effect of, 'I assume your all Soundgarden fans since your not forced to be here now that the grunge thing has past.' My favorite overheard comment was, "That show was absolutely bullocks!" (That's a good thing, right?) BARCELONA (21/09/96) The set is identical to the previous two nights but the crowd always makes the difference. Picture it: 2,500 Barcelona natives not able to speak English well or at all raised cigarette lighters and in halting unison fill the pavilion with, "Blah Jol Sun, Wunt U Come". Chris completely loses it. I'm talking about audible belly giggles into the mic. He tried to regain composure but managed only a few broken words before relinquishing the song to the audience, saying, "Please" (with an open hand gesture, as in, 'Go ahead, you take it from here.') He stepped back from the mic and let them have their sing-along. Susan fixed her focus on Chris and swayed to much of the set from the soundboard. Chris speaks Spanish very poorly. You can tell he feels silly even trying to attempt it. 'Gracias' even comes out like a little kid saying his first 'bad' word. I met the guys again (where I took the pictures that Seth recently added to the page). I apologize for finishing my film with only pictures of Chris and Kim. I thought once Matt and Ben boarded the tour bus that that meant they wouldn't be meeting and greeting. I was very wrong. I'm sorry. Chris actually held that 'surprised' pose for me for quite a while. I asked if I could take a picture of him before he got on the bus and he said, "You can take one now if you'd like." When I stepped back to snap the shot, the fans behind me took that as a signal that I had my autograph and that it was their turn. He held that pose while I literally slapped peoples hands out of his face. (Thank you so very much, Chris. That was above and beyond generous.) I also asked permission from Kim to take a picture of him and the soundman, Mark, said, "How about a picture WITH Kim." He pulled me behind the barricade and, holding my camera UPSIDE DOWN, snapped the picture of me and Kim. Kim squeezed the hell out of me. He was actually hurting my arm but I wasn't about to remove his hold on me. And may I just say in the name of Ben...WOW. He's matured into quite a handsome man. He's also very easy to chat with (he thinks Barcelona is a great city). And he even knelt for an extended time while signing posters, so as not to wrinkle them. As for Matt, I got the opportunity to say to him, "I'm Vikki from SOMMS." He said, "What?" (thinking he heard me correctly, but surprised) Me: "I'm Vikki from SOMMS." His face lit up with the brightest eyes and most glowing smile I've ever seen. I had to consciously force myself to listen to him - it was nearly impossible to detach myself from such an encompassing expression. I continued with "Thanks for acknowledging us. It means a lot." He nodded, gave me a thumbs up and said, "GROOVY." (Yes you did, Matt. Don't try to deny it.) I was so wrapped in his expression it took about four seconds for me to process this. I thought, 'What did he just say? Groovy?' I wanted to reach over and pinch his cheeks so very badly. Matt, I'll be at the Hater show at the O.K. Hotel this Halloween. I think it only fair to warn you that if you look at me so warmly again or come close to saying something as quirky as 'groovy', your gonna find your face squished in my hands. Matt also took Polaroids of us (How'd I come out Matt?) after the autographing was done. I'm still spinning. -Vikki :) ------------------------------ Subject: You'd think by now... From: seth ...they'd decide when the hell the US shows are going to be. If you've checked the official site as of earlier this evening (complete with hidden joke), you've noticed that the only remaining link is to the tour dates, and *once again* we've got TBAs all over the place. Nov 30, Dec 1, Dec 2, Dec 3, Dec 4, Dec 5, and Dec 7 are back to being mysteries, which means the Irvine, San Francisco, and Vancouver dates are up in the air as of now. On another note, I've been told that tickets for the Houston show go on sale Oct 12, the same day as the Austin tickets. If someone could call Ticketbastard or whoever is doing sales and confirm this for me, I'd appreciate it. Also, if someone can find out from TM when the Nashville tickets go on sale and email me, that would be great. seth ------------------------------ From: Deborah Baker Subject: Barrowlands gig Just found two differing reviews of the Glasgow gig in this month's Metal Hammer, which make interesting reading. One from a fan and one 'offical' Metal Hammer review. Here's a couple of snippets. "To anyone who experienced this wonderful occasion, I'm sure you'll agree that it kicked arse with a passion. From older tunes like Full On Kevin's Mom to recent masterpieces such as Burden In My Hand and Blow Up The Outside World, Soundgarden performed with such vigour and precision that they proved they are musical geniuses." (Matthew John Palmer, letters page) And from Grahame Bent, reviewer.. "Tonight proved that when Soundgarden aren't in the mood, they can be one of the most statically opaque attractions on the major league rock circuit... communication with the crowd is limited to an aplogy to the Barrowland owners for trashing their dressing room during an impromptu baseball match on their last visit...The way overlong, sub Pink Floyd wandering veg-out of Boot Camp works overtime to boost the yawn factor...the 'Garden strike for home with Full on Kevin's Mom before hurriedly filing off stage. who knows, maybe the prospect of another shot of backstage baseball was just too hard to resist?" Hmm, makes me glad I'm a music fan and not a music journalist. I never want to get that jaded. UK Deb ------------------------------ From: surfpunk@walrus.com Subject: re: poetry class =46irst of all I'm really mad now which will come off in my writing so I take responsibility for it right now. I have been following this thread on your college delema since it started and have had may thoughts on it. First of all either you your parents or even a student loan is paying for school which means it's not free and you should have major input into what you are and are not doing there.Anybody who tells you different is trying to control you, period. Second do you really want to be in that class if the teacher is so narrow minded or maybe you should consider that his requirements just don't fit in with your vision and feelings of poetry ( a big indication that it's not for you ) and the fact that he spoke of blasphemey in a state school boy last time I heard church and state were separate in this country not to mention free speech talk about P.C. of course you may just not want to rock the boat and just go along with the program " be another clone" to quote another great poet but I feel that Chiss's music and lyrics are about the exact opposite a song like "hands all over" is a revolutionary statement period.Just look at the trouble the environmental movements are having in the world to see how hated that message really is by a lot of powerful people and obviously your teacher is in power here( though he may be freaking out inside and not know how to deal with it so he suppresses you). Can you imagine if some of those dead and even live poets came to poetry class and saw how it was being taught most every where they would probably lose it. Once you put art in the academic environment its probably dead anyway. Of course there are those who speak of structure in language and such but great art redefines structure no matter what form ( I can hear many reasons for his views as I type this) Personally I wouldn't ignore it however at your age( I am assuming your in your early twenties) I would have because I did not have a very good self image at that time and listening to bands like Soundgarden does help there in letting me know I'm not alone in how I feel which is one reason I listen to them . It was suggested in the thread that there would be bigger battles to fight in life but will you be prepared to face them if you ignore the small but important ones? Only you can decide that . Good luck and also realize though I know it's hard you are facing some unrecognized opposition in yourself in this situation as well and your teacher is reflecting that to you so you may not win on this issue but you will and obviously have learned some things here. God when I remember listening to the genius of "Temple of the Dog" both the music and the lyrics it makes what happened to you that much more of a bitter pill to swallow. I fully support you here. Surfpunk ------------------------------ Subject: Re: European Tour Diary From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) Here I sit it's 8:30AM and I have been at work (Saturday) since 6AM and more than likely be here for another 5 or 6 hours.. I'm the only one in the building, it's cold and very dark (my office is at the end of a hall and the lights are off). My only consolations is this wonderful review written by our very own Vikki. Vikki - Thank you!! I have been so excited about seeing SG in Nov. for the first time and now after reading you review my excitement has double. In my many years of going to concerts and meeting bands I have learned that there are bands you want to meet and bands you just stay the devil away from. I really feel that if you approach SG with a sensible attitude they will be more than receptive to you. As I read your story this point was proven over and over again. Again thank you Vikki for the review and thank you Soundgarden for making music that gives so much to so many people.. Jamie (Village Idiot - will Nov. and Dec. ever come!!!!) ------------------------------ From: KAISERVRBL@aol.com Subject: Re: European Tour Diary So excited!!!!!!!! Last night I found a SU LP on blue vinyl! It was only $10!!!!!!!!!!! Can you believe that? I'm going to see SG live for my 2nd time on November 6 @ Salt Aire in Utah! I work for an advertising agency in Salt Lake & I have two radio station reps,plus a friend who writes for a local alternative music magazine working to get me Back Stage Passes, if there is a God (Besides Chris that is) I will meet my idol!!!!!! I;m taking the whole day off from work to go out there hoping to get meet them regardless! Are there any other SOMMsters from Utah? Any that are going? Anybody coming into town for the show? I'd love to hook up with anyone if you are! - -lance- ------------------------------ From: KAISERVRBL@aol.com Subject: Re: European Tour Diary TO ANYONE WHO'S INTERESTED!!!!!! Last night I stumbled across a British interview CD with SG. It's called "Soundgarden - The Upside Talk" I haven't had a chance to listen to it yet, but if anyone is interested in a copy E-mail me! - -lance- ------------------------------ From: KAISERVRBL@aol.com Subject: Re: European Tour Diary Has anyone heard when and if Johnny Cash is releasing his new album with his cover of "Rusty Cage"? I'd like to know. What I've heard of it is kinda cool. - -lance- ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Seattle, Hater on Halloween From: tonerkin@usa.pipeline.com (Tonerkin) On Oct 12, 1996 00:12:45, 'Heather Aston ' wrote: >My grandmother is now convinced >that Caryn, Shroom et. al are luring me to Seattle and will kill me. Tell your Grandma that I went to Seattle twice(once all alone) met with some of the Seattle sommsters and lived to tell it!! Although I did have some tiny little puncture wounds in my neck upon my return and I have been craving flies all summer!!!! toni ------------------------------ From: Eliza J Polly Subject: my first time.... well, listers, i just woke up from my very first SG dream (yes, first, after being a major fan for 8 years!!)....it is not nearly as wild as some of the others i have seen here, but i think my brain was too tired to be real creative.....anyway, it was funny, and had some interesting List twists,so i will post it.. I was writing an article for some local music rag...and I was invited to interview SG at an underground garage where they lived, rehearsed, etc. When I got there for my appointment, Chris greeted me at the door and said "It's about time" with a big grin (I guess I was late, per usual!). Now here is a funny list moment: Matt walked into the room (the place was like a dungeon), looked at me (I was in a suit) and said, "Hey, you look too normal to write an article on us!" and he was laughing...Then about 100 other people showed up, which was NOT supposed to be the case, so I was roaming around trying to figure out what was going on. (I felt like Lois Lane, pen and pad in hand). I stumbled upon Ben in one of the rooms - i know this is very weird, but he looked like Matt Dillon in Singles (which is additionally funny because Matt Dillon grew up very near me and we went to the same high school for a year - lord knows why i was dreaming about him)! And now comes another lis! t ! reference....Ben told me he had this awesome seafood goulash he made for me but we had to go for a long walk to get it. (Yes, I read some of my mail last night and saw the food question and the clams on the 1/2 shell response....you guys have taken over my brain ;-) So Ben/Matt Dillon and I go on this long walk thru the woods - it was kinda creepy- and we wind up in this beat up shack. We go inside and Ben walks to the fridge and takes out this Tupperware thing of seafood goulash and hands it to me. This is so silly - there was a label on it that said For Eliza. Anyway, then we trekked back to the "garage" and when we got there, there were still all these people there. So Chris asked me if I wanted to reschedule the interview and I said yes. I came back a couple of days later, in really torn up clothes with Docs on, and Matt opened the door this time, looked at me and said "Ah, that's more like it. " I was about to sit down with them and start the interview, when I realized that the List had a bunch of things they would die to be able to ask the band. So what did I do? I told them to wait, and went to a pay phone (yes, in their garage) and tried to call some List friends. I know I spoke to Michele's mom, and she wasnt home, and i got Aaron and Ryan's dad (whose voice i know ;-) and they were not home, and then I think I made a 1-800 call to the List , yes a List hotline, to find out what the questions were. I couldnt get a hold of anyone, so I made my own list - asking about BiMH and that awful story Dena told us, and the damn tour dates, and what they smoke and eat, and about Applebite being about MLB, etc. etc. So I made my own list and was heading back to the garage to interview them, and I WOKE UP DAMMIT!! Doesnt that always happen.....Anyway, it was funny and I feel, um, de-virginized in a way (for lack of a better word), since the boys finally made it into a dream I remembered, and i dont remember many. Anyway, that is all for now. Oh, and Kim was never there, which was weird. SG was a trio!! God forbid, no KT!!! thanks to those who have read this far- - --eliza Your Somms Deputy ------------------------------ From: infinite Subject: bob dole and stuff whoa, did bob dole really mention chris cornell? that would be = funny.... or do you mean the vice-guys? another thing, where do i apply for that job w/ the box??? i think i = could handle that. "please take one, thank you. don't be greedy, there's = enough for everybody." any idea what that would pay??=20 kevin ps eheheheheheheee ------------------------------ From: Josh_Garza@teachnet.edb.utexas.edu (Josh Garza) Subject: got tickets got tickets got tickets! After only waiting for about half an hour in line, got soundgarden tickets heh thatmakes my day..... anyway anyone who is going to the austin show that got tickets too, email me......... thanx laterz, pencapchew - -- - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- TeachNet, College of Education, University of Texas, Austin Texas - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ From: ThNrthFace@aol.com Subject: Re: European Tour Diary In a message dated 96-10-12 04:56:49 EDT, Vikki wrote: << "Everybody says 'thank you' and the KTMS, Kim Thayil Mercenary Squad, says 'hi'." Kim: (bug eyed and smiling) "The Kim Thayil Mercenary Squad, they're crazy!" >> WOW!!! I feel like a proud parent. Kudos to Vikki on the amazing diary. Two thumbs up. Your Chicago bound Somms Sheriff, KTMS/KTMSPAC founder, List Thug, and Mean Tyrant, Aaron ------------------------------ From: "SARAH F. THOMAS" Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Saturday, 12 Oct 1996 - ---To Stephen Johnston: Thank you so much for your detailed and lengthy description of the SG concert in Glasgow! I really enjoyed reading it and it has re-enkindled my desire to see them live. Hopefully one day that will happen.--- Now as for the rest of it, it looks like most people are obsessing much over Cornell. Let us not forget that there are other vital members of the band. Matt Cameron is a brilliant drummer. Kim Thayil is a cornerstone with his quirky, ripping guitar riffs and iron-clad style. And Ben Shepherd is a talented song writer as well as a skilled bassist - i.e. Head Down, Zero Chance, Unkind.....the combination of these four musicians is what makes Soundgarden the powerhouse of music that it is. So let's recognize it for what it is in its entirety. ------------------------------ From: ROGER SLATER Subject: Re: You'd think by now... seth wrote: > > ...they'd decide when the hell the US shows are going to be. If you've > checked the official site as of earlier this evening (complete with > hidden joke), you've noticed that the only remaining link is to the > tour dates, and *once again* we've got TBAs all over the place. Nov > 30, Dec 1, Dec 2, Dec 3, Dec 4, Dec 5, and Dec 7 are back to being > mysteries, which means the Irvine, San Francisco, and Vancouver dates > are up in the air as of now. > > On another note, I've been told that tickets for the Houston show go > on sale Oct 12, the same day as the Austin tickets. If someone could > call Ticketbastard or whoever is doing sales and confirm this for me, > I'd appreciate it. Also, if someone can find out from TM when the > Nashville tickets go on sale and email me, that would be great. > > seth The tickets went on sale today (oct.12) for the 2 LA shows. They are on Dec. 1st and 2nd at the universal ampitheatre. This is confirmed cause I just got tickets. :) I hope that helped. Lisa ------------------------------ From: endless_nameless@prodigy.com (GRRL NIKI FREER) Subject: i'm a big dummy guys, i'm a huge moron and i accidentally deleted Vikki's beautiful ramblings. so, if anyone is kind enough, can you just forward the message to my ID? thanks, i know i'm an idiot. mind riot ------------------------------ From: Kendrick Kay Subject: Re: uuuhhhh..... newbies >> > "If you're tired of a whitehouse that's always smoking hemp. >> > Vote for the future, vote Dole-Kemp." >> >> The future? Yea, right. Betcha Dole doesn't live the next 4 >>years.....thank >> god he's gonna lose. > >Wow..so you'd rather have big government intervening in your everyday >affairs, controlling the Internet among other things? Remember this >when you vote: Bill Clinton signed the Telecommunications Act. well, conservative Republicans supported the act, too...and Clinton is not really a liberal anymore anyway (well, on the outside he isn't). Real liberals (e.g. the ACLU) opposed the Telecommunications Act. ------------------------------ From: AMMENDOZA@SCUACC.SCU.EDU Subject: Soundgarden is coming to San Francisco!! i just found out the soundgarden will be playing the Warfield in San Francisco on December 4 and 5. i don't know how many of you out there are familiar with the Warfield, but it absolutely the best venue i have been to. Nirvana played there during the Nevermind days, but unfortunately i missed that. i did see foo fighters there, and they kicked ass. anyway, i really looking forward to seeing soundgarden. i saw them over the summer at Spartan stadium in san jose for lollapolloza, but they kind of sucked. i don't know if it was the hot weather or the fact that it wasn't a sold out crowd, but they didn't seem like they were enjoying themselves. they just kind of did there set and left, although chris did a real cool solo version of black hole sun. kim seemed pretty out of it. someone threw a shoe right at his face, and he almost got hit because he wasn't really paying attention. he was zoned out. but the show was still cool. i crowd surfed to fell on black days, and did some heavy moshing. i am expecting alot more out of them, however, when i see them december 5. anyone else out there planning to go to that show????? ------------------------------ From: ThNrthFace@aol.com Subject: Telecomunications Act Kim Thayil, Presidential Candidate of the THUG party opposes the Telecommunications Act and crowd surfing. So does the SOMMS Sheriff. The List Thug, Aaron "Those guys are crazy!!!"-Kim Thayil ------------------------------ Subject: Re: uuuhhhh..... newbies From: seth Before this gets out of hand, END IT NOW. This is not a political discussion list. This is a Soundgarden list. seth (listadmin) > >> > "If you're tired of a whitehouse that's always smoking hemp. > >> > Vote for the future, vote Dole-Kemp." > >> > >> The future? Yea, right. Betcha Dole doesn't live the next 4 > >>years.....thank > >> god he's gonna lose. > > > >Wow..so you'd rather have big government intervening in your everyday > >affairs, controlling the Internet among other things? Remember this > >when you vote: Bill Clinton signed the Telecommunications Act. > > well, conservative Republicans supported the act, too...and Clinton is not > really a liberal anymore anyway (well, on the outside he isn't). Real > liberals (e.g. the ACLU) opposed the Telecommunications Act. > > > ------------------------------ From: ShRooMGrLz@aol.com Subject: Happy happy Shroom Girl... Steve writes: >I dunno if I agree with all the talk about Chris being ill - he _did_ >look pretty thin right enough, but he's also one tall bastard and >it's think it's just that that makes it look like something worse. That'd be something interesting to say to Chris, if you ever had a chance to meet him. "Hey Chris, you look pretty damn skinny... but you're also one tall bastard, so I guess it's ok." I'm sure that would go over grrrreat. ;-) Heheheh... >I put the idea to Brydon at one point that we should wait for a gap >between songs and shout out a message from Shroom, but we >kinda chickened out, and anyway, we wouldn't want to make Chris >_too_ paranoid - well not on the first date of the tour anyway ;) I >mean, he might've chickened out and missed out 'Shroom-land' >altogether when they tour over there!! I LOVE YOU GUYS!!! Thank you thank you thank you for thinking of me during the show!! Heheheh... wow, that's pretty groovy to consider *ME* intimidating Chris. Yeah, right!! But think of all the possibilities... heheheh... Ahhh, the power. ;-) Think I could intimidate him right into a hot tub? And as to the whole 'Vikki tour journal'... I'm in AWE. Vikki, you write SO well... it's almost like being there! Chris speaks in a flirtatious voice?? All I can say about that is: AAAAUUUUUGGGGHHHH!!!! AAAAAUUUUGGGHHHHH!!! I'm sure most of you understand. I've GOTTA meet the guy! It's imperative to what's left of my mental health. Heheheh... and I can't wait for the Hater show! Can I take a picture of you squishing Mattster's cheeks inbetween your hands, Vikki? "This is Vikki showing her Sicilian side to our favorite drummer..." Heheheh... that's going to be so awesome!! Seth, if they let us take my video camera in, you're going to be overrun with images of Matt and Ben... and not to mention images of them and us SOMMSters. "This is Dena and Shroom having a fist fight over who gets Ben's autograph first..." (inside joke, had to do it, sorry) "This is Caryn getting another drum stick from Matt so see can have a matching set." "This is Shroom frisking Matt in search of naked pictures of Chris..." Oh yes, it's going to be too cool! Am I babbling? Sorry... let me tell you why I'm so happy: I GOT TICKETS TO SEE SG IN HOUSTON AND AUSTIN!! The Houston show I snagged at 10am, and the Austin show I got at 10:15am. Oh bliss!! I just wish they were doing more TX shows, dammit! Oh well... I'll live, I guess. ;-) Ain't life grand, kiddies? Ummm... I had an interesting SG dream last night, too... but I think that Seth would probably get REALLY mad at me if I posted it here. Let's just say that it involved a SG concert, very little clothing (except for a pair of nylon running pants, a pink shirt, and a pair of grey bikini briefs), and Matt was the vocalist. My dreams are getting weirder and weirder. Just thought I'd share all this with y'all. You're welcome!! Love me, bye-bye... Shroomy "Oh THERE you are, Shroom! I've been looking all over for you! I have these naked pictures of myself that I've been wanting to give you. Tell me what you think of them. I personally like the ones that were taken in the shower. But if they don't meet with your approval, I'll let you take some new ones. Oh, and do you think that Seth will post them to the unofficial page? I asked Susan to put them on the official, but she threw me out of the house. I've been staying at Matt's since then, so he and I have become especially... close. Ummm... can he be in the new pictures? Pretty please?" ~ Chris Cornell (Words not necessarily said in that order...) <~~~ my disclaimer ...oh man, I'm twisted. Good thing Matt's not in the US to read THAT quote. Heheheh... =) ------------------------------ From: Cornell Subject: Re: uuuhhhh..... newbies Neuromute@aol.com wrote: > No, Teenagers generally prove beyond a reasonable doubt that they are > ignorant....I should know, I was a pretty fucking smart ignorant teenager.... wow...can you be more blatantly disrespectfl? I thought this list would be the LAST place I would be judged because of my age. I'm sick of teachers and other people treating me like I'm five when I'm intelligent enough to be treated as an equal. I'm sorry I just have to take Ivy's side due to the fact that we get treated this way all the time. > > "If you're tired of a whitehouse that's always smoking hemp. > > Vote for the future, vote Dole-Kemp." > > The future? Yea, right. Betcha Dole doesn't live the next 4 years.....thank > god he's gonna lose. Wow..so you'd rather have big government intervening in your everyday affairs, controlling the Internet among other things? Remember this when you vote: Bill Clinton signed the Telecommunications Act. Gregg ------------------------------ From: Cornell Subject: DoTU digipack If anyone wants a digipack copy of DotU let me know. I think I can wrangle some. E-mail me. Gregg ------------------------------ From: Carolyn Hanel Subject: RE: somms 'no code' poll Caryn wrote: >>okay, for those of you who own 'no code', (and ESPECIALLY those of you who own the LP), let's take a poll here: Am I too late to answer this? (I still have 306 posts to read) >>in the booklet/inside photos, there's a closeup picture of eddie sitting down against a wall, talking with a dark haired individual (who is out of focus and blurry). my first thought was: dave grohl, taken during the SPR session. Naaa, too blonde for him - that person doesn't look so dark haired to me - rather it's just shadow. >>my second thought (and chris' thought too): matt cameron. could *also* have been taken during SPR. Hmmm, I think you might be right! >>if you don't know what i'm talking about, or don't have the album, delete this. if you do, lemme know what you think. ;-) Done. Carolyn the Mirthful Fairy "Do you see the way that tree bends? - does it inspire? Leaning out to catch the sun's rays - a lesson to reapply"........Pearl Jam ------------------------------ From: Stefanie McCracken Subject: More Salt Lake City tickets needed Hi....Thanks to those who put me in contact with someone who had tickets and now can't go to the concert, I got 2 of them and I am really jazzed. I need 2 more....Does anyone out there know of anyone else who got tickets and now won't be attending? 4 of us were planning to go but procrastinated buying the tickets....then they were sold out. Thanks in advance for any help! Stefanie ------------------------------ Subject: Sounds like........ From: tonerkin@usa.pipeline.com (Tonerkin) In looking through a local music paper tonight (Illinois Entertainer) I noticed all the tribute bands that are playing in bars. Revalation(Iron Maiden) Prezence(Led Zepplin) War Pigs(Black Sabbath) Gerry's Kids (Grateful Dead) Strutter (KISS) Battery(Metallica) It made me curious. Are there any Soundgarden tribute bands out there?? Has anyone ever heard a band do a SG song in a club or bar? If so, what song did they do? And if you were going to put together a Soundgarden Tribute band what would you call it?????? How about GOODMANUALDIGIT or Shitty Well Knowns? toni ------------------------------ From: Carolyn Hanel Subject: RE: Peace and Love Toni wrote: >> Wow! We have a list social phenomenon!! It's like a twin = thing(when one twin gets hurt the other feels the pain). The entire membership of = the list collectively woke up crabby on the wrong side of the world = today!! Except Carolyn who is still reading 18 digests back :-) .=20 [madly treading water trying to keep my head above the waves that keep = washing over me] BUT I only have 186 unread messages to go now! Yahoo - down to less = than 200!!! :-) [getting serious] However, I've now read all the sadness posts so I'm not so happy any = more. :-( I agree with you Toni, I think we should leave it all as = water under the bridge. SMILE, PEOPLES!! If you want to take out your frustrations, you could = always go for our dear buddy Nothingman! :-) =20 >>Oh...... that's right shealways wakes up on the other side of the world!!! (Please don't flame me Aussies I didn't say wrong side I said other side!). =20 Ha ha!! Don't forget we're a day AHEAD of you northerners - you should = know you're behind the times up there! Hell, if I were a day behind I'd = probably have DOUBLE the posts to catch up on! >>If we reduce ourselves to the level of verbal spiting(I kept it SG related Seth by making a Ben reference) = at each other than yes, Caryn's dire predictions of the lists' demise will come to fruition. I don't think any of us want that! =20 I certainly don't. Then what would I do with all my spare time?! Cheers and Beers to you all, Carolyn the Masquerading Femm-fatale I'm just sitting in my chair, wearing a smile......Violent Femmes ------------------------------ From: Carolyn Hanel Subject: RE: Shirtgate revisited Geoff wrote: >>Ok, so a few weeks ago, I inquired about the list-members who ordered = and=20 received, or did not receive tshirts from Nothinghead......... >>Seth 5/5 "1 for me and 4 for the band and they all look terrible" Greg Bensimon 1/1 "I don't know if that makes me a lucky one, or unlucky = one" Nate Crosswhite 0 Jamesetta 0/4 Eric Gardner 0/2 Lee Christensen 0/1 Sachin Trivedi 1/1 Overfloater 1/1 (**1/2) Carolyn Hanel 0 Ben Timberlake 1/2 Tonerkin 1/1 "thumbs down" Mariana 0 Bonnie Cochran 0 Shroom 0/2 Firebug 0 Kathie 0 Kazam Ali 0 Nigel Wilks 0 McCheese 0 Greg Fox 0 Deb 1/1 Willard Robinson 0 At about the same time, I also made the same enquiry of the list (not = realising Geoff had done so). And so here are a few more to add to = Geoff's list: Blind Dog 0 Little Joe 0 jsk@tiac.net 0 GeekGirl 0 Caryn Rose 0 Liesl Asiu 0 Added to Geoff's list, that makes 21 people who got no shirts. And then = Ben got one but ordered 2, Jamie ordered 4, and both Eric and Shroom = ordered 2. So that's 27 shirts in total that should have been delivered = and weren't. At $8 US per shirt plus postage at between $3.30 = (Americans) to $7.60 (us poor Australians) that makes a MINIMUM profit = to Nothingman of $305.10!!!! (actually more because many of the shirts = not received were supposed to go overseas - those people paid him a lot = more than $11.30). AAAAAAUUUUGGGHHHHH! NOTHINGMAN, I HOPE YOU FEEL BLOODY GUILTY, YOU = THIEVING MONGREL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Carolyn the Majorly Frustrated I've got an idea of something we can do with a gun........Soundgarden ------------------------------ From: Eric Gardner Subject: #34 #17, actually. 34 is how old I am today...one more year and I jump off the Golden Gate Bridge (note for the humor impaired...that was a joke). #17 is a BiMH 7" single, one of those white vinyl devices that finally showed up in the mail after Mr. Russell showed me how to lean on IGG.:) The usual crap: email to enter, winner picked at random. Winner (only) must provide a shipping address. Once notified, the winner has 5 days to claim his/her prize. Entries taken until Thursday (17 Oct). ***Make sure you understand all of the above before entering*** Eric ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 2 Issue 272] ****************************************