From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Saturday, 12 Oct 1996 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Sat, 12 Oct 1996 04:25:50 EDT Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Saturday, 12 Oct 1996 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: heroin in Cornell's music. Re: STuFF Re: importance of lyrics? Re: heroin in Cornell's music. Re: *Poetry class* The mystery of the vanishing rock god - continued Re: importance of lyrics? Re:BMF/SOMMS cd somms disk Lyrics and dreams seattle-bound sommsters RE: Fave Food LONG!! SG Concert - Glasgow 16th Sept comment on "people who are pierced/tatooed are fake" Re: heroin in Cornell's music. Re: Found this on the SG newsgroup today :> Found this on the SG newsgroup today :> SG coming to KCMO Re: Found this on the SG newsgroup today :> apology Bargain shopper? Sheryl Crow... Internet Message Re: Found this on the SG newsgroup today :> SG SHOW IN THE MONTH OF GIVING THANKS Re: BIMH Re: Found this on the SG newsgroup today :> Hey Artists/Musicans/Bands !!! Re: importance of lyrics? Re: *Poetry class* electshun hey Seattle, Hater on Halloween Re: heroin in Cornell's music. hype! chicago opening ------------------------------------------------------------ From: UnknMan@aol.com Subject: heroin in Cornell's music. In a message dated 96-10-10 18:34:58 EDT, you write: >> from the january 12, 1995 issue of Rolling Stone: >> "I don't have any heroin songs." -chris cornell > >with all due respect to mr. cornell, 'say hello 2 heaven' is about the >death of andrew wood, who died from a heroin overdose. therefore it is >TANGENTIALLY a heroin song, but a heroin song nonetheless. Don't forget 'Times Of Trouble'. 'when the spoon is hot & the needle's sharp' etc... It's about the negative aspects of heroin of course, but in fact a heroin-related song. I also still believe that 'Spoonman' has heroin overtones as well... no matter what Cornell says. It's not his right to tell me what I think about songs, even if he did write them. ray (c: ------------------------------ From: rkcndy Subject: Re: STuFF At 10:49 PM 10/10/96 -0700, you wrote: > > >On Fri, 11 Oct 1996 ShRooMGrLz@aol.com wrote: > >> LIST THUG FOR SOMMS SHERIFF!!! > >amen, sister! there's no better man for the job... hey, isn't the sheriff >(and his brother) going to be 21 soon??? hehehe yeah *wicked grin* this is the sheriff's brother, and yeah, we're 21 now :) Had a great time at Moe's tonight..if any of you come to seattle, go and see The Chauffuer, they play a great show.."truly and hater all in a weeks time...damn thats gonna be cool" <---sorta sg related, wouldn't wanna piss of seth :)" Ryan ------------------------------ From: phreak Subject: Re: importance of lyrics? On Wed, 9 Oct 1996, Kendrick Kay wrote: > Do most of you SG fans pay much attention to the lyrics of SG's songs? I > love SG because their music is energetic...not really because of the > lyrics. When I do pay attention to them, I find that they are sort of > despairing, but vigorous and violent as well... For me, the lyrics are just "there". You can take them or leave them. They mean whatever you want them to mean to you... - -me ------------------------------ From: phang Subject: Re: heroin in Cornell's music. On Fri, 11 Oct 1996 UnknMan@aol.com wrote: > overtones as well... no matter what Cornell says. It's not his right to tell > me what I think about songs, even if he did write them. But surely, if he wrote the songs he should know better than anyone else what they're actually about!?! - -me ------------------------------ From: Jovica Popovic Subject: Re: *Poetry class* On Thu, 10 Oct 1996, ONE & ONLY ALI-G wrote: > However...I still say Chris is a poet........I'm in the process of trying to > get back in the class ....If I can get enough support for Chris's lyrics as a > form of poetry....then I'll get back in the class....So I ask that each of you > email me...and support Chris's lyrics as poetry....Please.... What's there to support? Of course his lyrics are poetry. That's an undenieable fact, and also a major part of why I enjoy SG so much. 'Teachers' of the world will have to recognice great poets of rock music sooner or later, but they'll definitely have to do it. Yeah, they deliver poetry diferently from 'the norm', but that doesn't make it any less artistical. I suggest you print out some of his best work and show it to him/her. My suggestions would be the slower/darker songs (4th of July, Zero Chance and the like). - --- jpop@fly.cc.fer.hr --- Sit back and watch my divine spark flash... -- jovica.popovic@fer.hr -- Disclaimer: I didn't do it, nobody saw me do - Jovica Popovic - it, can't prove anything! ------------------------------ From: Deborah Baker Subject: The mystery of the vanishing rock god - continued Kathie wrote >Which brings me to the Chris Cornell pictures again. This little thread has really bugged me. >... he looks different than he did during his Sex >God days. Does that mean he's sick, though? Maybe sick of the continued >focus on his looks. Sorry Kathie, I am continuing this thread, but its because I agree with you! I have to admit when I first saw the latest pics of Chris, I was 'concerned' and spent many an hour when I should have been working pondering on the reasons and scaring myself silly. But I think you could be right - we're all over-reacting. I saw him at Brixton and - together with Gemma and Vikki's pics of him smiling - I have to say he at least looks happier than he has at some points in the past. And he still occasionally takes off his shirt - so *he's* obviously not bothered by his skinnier frame. If there *is* anything ' wrong',there's nothing we can do about it anyway. >We've had the >discussion of the Chris Cornell as Sex God phenomenon and some people >think he has been subjected to this against his will. I've thought and >thought about this, and I agree with shroom. I think this image was a >carefully calculated one which started with the decision to take him out >from behind the drums. I also think he probably thought it was fun in the beginning, especially as he wasn't/isn't up for grabs. And in the early days, Soundgarden did say a lot of what they did was parody ( I don't think they think of themselves that way now). Trouble was, the whole sexgod, hair shaking parody backfired - - the media focused on it too much and didn't get the humour. So it started taking over and overshadowing Soundgarden as musicians. Plus he's bound to change his attiude over a period of 12 years. >I've gone through a real evolution over the last six months in my >Soundgarden mania, and it was very difficult at first. I have all these >old articles and old interviews, etc. and shortly before DOTU came out I >started seeing inconsistencies in the newer interviews. At first I had a >hard time with that, but because I love Soundgarden so much I've come to >accept that they are just human. Without selling out, or becoming >commercial they have evolved and changed, too, but I think they have in >many ways become MORE true to themselves, because now they have the >financial and fan backing to at last totally drop any pretense. I admire >and love Soundgarden with all my heart, but I've become more realistic >in my expectations of them as people. Exactly. I'm a 'newer' fan than Kathie, but I've got a vast amount of articles going back to 89 when they started getting attention in Britain, and you wouldn't necessarily think you were reading about the same band. But I'm not just talking about the difference between 89 and 96. One minute they're Frowngarden, or they're sensitive intelligent souls, the next minute they are pissing on food, shouting abuse at old ladies and taking AIDS tests. At first it got me thinking, 'Will the real Soundgarden please stand up! I'm confused!' Now I just accept that they are human, they are fallible (and Chris is allowed to have bloodshot eyes and the odd blemish now and then :-)!. And they probably even make stuff up sometimes either out of self-defence, their weird sense of humour or because they are not exactly fond of interviews. And I try not to read *too much* into how they look or act, or what they say. Whatever happens, they're still one of the most interesting bands around - both on and off stage. Okay, I'm done. You can all WAKE UP now. UK Deb PS Clare from the UK who was looking for fellow British sommsters, I wrote your email address down and promptly lost it! If you want to write(probably not after reading that lot!)please do. ------------------------------ From: KAISERVRBL@aol.com Subject: Re: importance of lyrics? Hey everybody!!!!!! I will gladly trade anyone a recorded version of Stolen Prayers, Deep Six & Louder Love for one copy of SOMMS!!!!!!!!!!!! Please, Mother Mercy?????????? - -lance- ------------------------------ From: Gonzo Subject: Re:BMF/SOMMS cd Good mourning Soundgarden fans read this if you are interested in purchasing the out of print BMF/SOMMS cd.Yodelin' Pig CD & Collectables 2 copies for sale. copy 1 is SG BMF USA/2cd/Ltd.Ed. 17trks A&M VG+..............$20.00 copy 2 is SG BMF USA/Ltd.Ed. 2-cd 17trks A&M M...............$25.00 also advertised is the Pretty noose Pt.1 Ger./3 Lp Trks +interview A&M new...$11.00 and Pretty Noose Pt.2 Eng./Ltd Ed.Slip Box W/Poster 4Trks A&M SS.............$11.00 VG+=very good,M=mint,SS=Still Sealed. Address but no web site or e-mail address available. Yodelin Pig CD & Collectables 10435 Reisterstown Road,Bld 3 Owings Mills MD 21117 Fax-410-654-0751 PH-410-654-0516 Gonzo ------------------------------ Subject: somms disk From: "Shawn David Kennedy" To everyone who doesn't currently own the SOMMS disk, check out any available used CD places in your area. You may not have any hope of finding it there, but you could be surprised. I have seen a perfect copy of this disk in a used CD store in my area. Some people are just dumb. How could you give up that disk. Also, I have the Fresh Deadly Rarities bootleg, and that has all the songs from SOMMS (minus the live version of Slaves and Bulldozers) and that bootleg is fairly common now. If there is a Wherehouse records near you, ask them to order it if you don't have these songs. Anyway, just thought I would help out anyone who doesn't have a clue how to get that kind of thing. ------------------------------ From: Jeremiah Emison Subject: Lyrics and dreams Just to clarify what I wrote about CC and the magic fish. It was a dream, and I can't control what I dream(if I could, it wouldn't have been CC on the bed). Also, the magic fish part of the dream was probably influenced by reading THE HITCHHIKER'S GUIDE TO THE GALAXY(you know, the little babel fish that he puts in his ear for a translator). Now that that is done, let me add my own comments and feelings as to the meaning of lyrics. I think that many of Soundgarden's songs have deep meaning, both intended by the writer and inferred by the listener. What I mean to say is that, even though the writer may intend the lyrics to mean one thing, to the listener, they could mean an entirely different thing. That's what's great about art--You have the right to interpret the work as it makes you feel, not just solely by what the artist is trying to express(although admittedly, that is important as well). Everybody has his or her own view upon the meaning, none of them being more or less valid. It doesn't really sound like I'm making sense, so i'll stop now. "If this isn't making sense, it doesn't make it lies." Chris Cornell the most important fool Jeremiah ------------------------------ From: Andrea Pinto Subject: seattle-bound sommsters I lost track of who is going to be in Seattle on Oct 25th, but I read that Truly will be playing a show at Sit&Spin on that night. Sit&Spin is a restaurant/laundrymat (only in Seattle). Recently they just opened up the back room for bands to play. It's a great place to see a show. I've never heard Truly play live-but there last album is amazing. Sorry if this was posted already-I'm on digest. ------------------------------ From: Monnica Lewis Subject: RE: Fave Food I remember reading somewhere that Chris likes oysters on the half shelve . But that's all I know about. Monnica ---------- From: alexander ebora To: somms Subject: Fave Food Date: Thursday, October 10, 1996 6:05PM does anyone know what the bands' favorite foods are?...could someone make a list telling which band member likes what kind of food. ------------------------------ Subject: LONG!! SG Concert - Glasgow 16th Sept From: Stephen Johnston CS93 Soundgarden - Glagow Barrowlands - Monday 16th September ==================================================== What can I say... totally fucking excellent!! This is the first time I'd ever seen SG live and I was totally speechless. Brydon Cheyney (famous SOMMS bloke!) phoned me up and we met up at a pub in Glasgow... which was a bit shit for me seeing as the way things worked out I ended up driving :( ( I just can't handle seeing other people having a nice, long pint when I'm sipping on a glass of Coke!!) Brydon met up with one of his mates from Shetland and we stayed for a few drinks then headed on down to the Barrowlands. We didn't get there till a bit later... the doors were open at 7:30 but we made it up there for about 8:30 ish. Caught the last 4 or 5 songs from Moby, who I've gotta say, has changed his style a _lot_ from the last time I heard any Moby stuff. I'd heard he'd discovered the guitar, but I thought we'd just have the old dancy bit with a bit of guitar thrown in.... not even close. He was heavy! VERY heavy!! SG came on about half 9 and I managed to get to about 3-4 rows back from the front. The minute they walked on the stage I realised I had a complete arsehole behind me who just liked shoving his elbows between my shoulder blades and pushing hard to see if he could get past... no chance! Matt came on first, then Kim, Chris and Ben. I dunno if I agree with all the talk about Chris being ill - he _did_ look pretty thin right enough, but he's also one tall bastard and it's think it's just that that makes it look like something worse. I tried to look at what everyone was wearing (cos I know some people like that sorta thing!!) so here's what I remember. Chris had on black jeans, a black T-Shirt and this dark brown leather jacket. Matt had a T-Shirt (couldn't see what was on it) and shorts (I think) and I can't really remember what the rest of them had on (sorry!!) Here's what they played (not sure about the order here - Brydon tried to get the setlist at the end, but some clever bastard had already got it.... DAMN!) I just couldn't take it in for the first few songs that I had actually managed to get a ticket to see them live and was standing right in front of these guys whose music, I've gotta say, I've done a fair bit of growing up while listening to. It was really strange! So if I get the songs all screwed up here I'm sure Brydon'll put you right! Anyways... here's the list: Spoonman Searching With My Good Eye Closed Burden In My Hand Let Me Drown Ty Cobb Head Down Pretty Noose Black Hole Sun (solo) My Wave Boot Camp (extended) Waiting For The Sun Never Named Fell On Black Days Rusty Cage Blow Up The OUtside World Mailman Rhinosaur Drawing Flies Encore ====== Captain Beefheart cover?? (haven't a clue... Brydon said !!) Full On Kevin's Mom One wierd thing was there was no sign of the fork round Chris' neck... hmmm. There were the usual load of tossers there chucking stuff. I got a pint of beer chucked from behind me, which skimmed across the top of my head, emptied half of itself over Brydon, my face and my left arm (knackering my watch... oops!) then it kept going and hit Ben on the legs. He didn't look too pleased at all. In fact, he wasn't moving about much at all. He had that snarl on all night! I definitely would NOT get in his way. Saying that, he played bloody brilliantly. I was right up the front from just after halfway through the set to the end. Near the end of Black Hole Sun someone hit Chris with a cup full of water. He just kept playing!! Totally unaffected... what a pro! The minute he'd finished up with BHS tho', he looked down, kicked the cup away and shot a 'fucking wanker' look out into the crowd where the cup came from. I couldn't see what Kim was doing cos I couldn't see past one of the 'built like a brick shithouse' security guards. Matt was bloody amazing. Every time I looked over there he was looking out in the crowd, and drumming away at an unreal speed. How the hell can you do that?? I put the idea to Brydon at one point that we should wait for a gap between songs and shout out a message from Shroom, but we kinda chickened out, and anyway, we wouldn't want to make Chris _too_ paranoid - well not on the first date of the tour anyway ;) I mean, he might've chickened out and missed out 'Shroom-land' altogether when they tour over there!! There were a few songs I'd _really_ wanted to hear live... I'd have loved to hear Jesus Christ Pose (I know - I've already got about a million live versions... but still!), Little Joe woulda been great too, and Loud Love would've been better than I could've hoped for. But they played Ty Cobb (YES!) and when they played Full On Kevin's Mom in the encore that _more_ than made up for the fact they never did Jesus Christ Pose. It was _amazing_! The best part about it was that hardly anyone knew it, so it made it all the better! I'm not sure what he was up to, but near the end of the main set, at the end of one of the songs (I've forgotten which one) Ben walked right up to the edge of the stage and locked his hands together and did that butterfly thing you can do with your hands. Anyway, he put his hands up to his chest and stood there looking straight out at the crowd doing this for about 20 - - 30 seconds. I don't have a clue what he was doing, but it looked as cool as fuck! Oh - I got a T-shirt and an SG baseball cap - decent quality too! It's a darkish green with the word Soundgarden stitched on the back in the same font as the album (or maybe I shouldn't be talking about fonts and T-Shirts in the same sentence here.... ;) ) It's got the Soundgarden 'S' on the front (from UMOK). I've gotta agree with whoever said it a couple o month back tho' - it's amazing how many people only half look at it and then accuse you of having a swastika. Silly bastards... need their eyes tested :) Chris voice was superb. Any doubts I'd ever had about his voice after any voice problems were just blown away. Never faltered once, and didn't even look like he was straining to get those high notes. He was hitting the end part of Rusty Cage as easily as he sung the the start of Black Hole Sun. Blow up the Outside World was actually BETTER than the version on the album. Maybe it's just cos I never liked that horrible Lennon-ish filtering on the singing in the verses, but hearing it without any filtering - I just can't describe it. It was sooooo much better - and it was one of the top songs on the album as it was! We all poured out at the end, wrung out our T-shirts (me & Brydon still totally amazed they'd played Full On Kevin's Mom). We even managed to get into Tower Records and get the BIMH singles on the way back. Not bad, eh?! After a disgusting hour's drive home slipping about in a sweaty seat, I got in the house, switched on the stereo and relaxed to the sounds of Karaoke and Bleed Together. I woke up in the morning and realised I'd been asleep on the floor in front of the stereo all night!! Hmmm... I've gotta say it tho' - in case I haven't made it clear yet... IT WAS ONE OF THE BEST FUCKING NIGHTS OF MY LIFE!!! Cheers, - Steve btw - Sorry for the long post but I guessed that seeing as I've been on the list for well over a year and only been able to post twice, it was time to start making up for it!! He he he... ------------------------------ From: Eileen Subject: comment on "people who are pierced/tatooed are fake" to that person who made that ignorant comment, on "most people who are pierced/tattooed are all fake". well, i have a couple of words for you, and i won't be rude about it either, even though i would like to... but i am a nice person, who dresses nice, makes money>>> (and let me point this out, does not make me any better than any other person) AND happens to have a tattoo, one being that of the soundgarden "badmotorfinger" wheel, and yes, I am proud & branded for life!!! just words of wisdom, "don't judge a book by it's cover!". just because there are people who express their individuality more than you, does not make you any better!!! why don't you get to know a person before stereotyping them because they are out of the norm!!! ciao for now, eileen "branded for life and f*cken proud of it!" :-) ------------------------------ From: Caryn Rose Subject: Re: heroin in Cornell's music. On Fri, 11 Oct 1996, phang wrote: > On Fri, 11 Oct 1996 UnknMan@aol.com wrote: > > > overtones as well... no matter what Cornell says. It's not his right to tell > > me what I think about songs, even if he did write them. > > But surely, if he wrote the songs he should know better than anyone else > what they're actually about!?! all lyricists, poets have the same concept of their work: once it's out there, e.g., recorded and released, it takes on a life of their own. sometimes you can write something and as you work with it you find out it has other meanings that go way beyond what the original spark was. i once worked with a band back in their baby-band days who were/are particularly known for refusing to state what their lyrics meant or even including lyrics with albums. it was amazing the people w ho would come up to the band with their questions and interpretations about the songs -- the members would stop sometimes and say, 'wow, no, that wasn't at all what i was thinking of, but you know, i totally understand where you're coming from'. there are many many forces at work during creation of art, and not just conscious ones. i agree with ray, btw. what he was trying to say (i think) is that chris cornell cannot tell ME what a song means to me, even if HE wrote it. why would he want to? what's the beauty in that? - --caryn ------------------------------ From: Caryn Rose Subject: Re: Found this on the SG newsgroup today :> On Fri, 11 Oct 1996 overfloater@thenexus.com wrote: > A Friend of mine met this bouncer who worked backstage at > a Soundgarden concert. Know what his job was??? He had to hold > a big box a condoms and distribute them to the line of girls > waiting to screw Cornell. THey just went in, one after another, > like an assembly line or something. So, ladies, if your into > that kinda action, get backstage passes to a SG concert! this is not a flame... DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE THIS???? DO ANY OF YOU FOR A SECOND REALLY BELIEVE THIS??? i'm REALLY surprised at the source of this... you K NOW better!!! - --caryn ------------------------------ From: overfloater@thenexus.com Subject: Found this on the SG newsgroup today :> Subject: Chris Cornell is a sex maniac!!! From: JILL <945@cyberstreet.com> Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 00:58:56 -0400 Message-ID: <325C8290.2D82@cyberstreet.com> A Friend of mine met this bouncer who worked backstage at a Soundgarden concert. Know what his job was??? He had to hold a big box a condoms and distribute them to the line of girls waiting to screw Cornell. THey just went in, one after another, like an assembly line or something. So, ladies, if your into that kinda action, get backstage passes to a SG concert! Jill Oh my.. thats all i have to say, oh my. Pretty interesting stuff... oh BTW, I finally told me dad about going to Boston. He dint even scream at me :> ------------------------------ From: Todd Yowell Subject: SG coming to KCMO Does anyone know fo sure that SG is not going to come to Kansas City! I really want to see them again, because my opinion is that Lolla did not do them the justice they would have being out on the tour they are on by them selves. Also, even this has nothing to do with SG but are there any other radio stations giving away a trip to Frankfurt, Germany to see METALLICA. ------------------------------ From: Mercyhurst Prep Library Subject: Re: Found this on the SG newsgroup today :> At 01:16 PM 10/11/96 -0500, you wrote: > Subject: Chris Cornell is a sex maniac!!! >From: JILL <945@cyberstreet.com> >Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 00:58:56 -0400 >Message-ID: <325C8290.2D82@cyberstreet.com> > >A Friend of mine met this bouncer who worked backstage at >a Soundgarden concert. Know what his job was??? He had to hold >a big box a condoms and distribute them to the line of girls >waiting to screw Cornell. THey just went in, one after another, >like an assembly line or something. So, ladies, if your into >that kinda action, get backstage passes to a SG concert! > >Jill > > >Oh my.. thats all i have to say, oh my. Pretty interesting stuff... > >oh BTW, I finally told me dad about going to Boston. He dint even >scream at me :> > That is so pathetic. Not sg! imho, just a nasty rumor people are passing around, you know, an urban myth. ------------------------------ From: Caryn Rose Subject: apology i overreacted to overfloater's message about the post on the newsgroup. i didn't see the humor in it. i was concerned about other people also not seeing the humor in it and then having a month of discussion about chris' alleged behavior with groupies. i apologized privately, and to seth as well, so the lot of you get it too. it happens. ;-} - --caryn ------------------------------ From: "Jennifer L. Kern" Subject: Bargain shopper? I am so happy!!!!! I went out last night looking for some SG imports and misc. things--didn't get what I REALLY wanted ("Louder than Live" was $75!)Anyway, I did get 'Songs from the Superunkown' for only $4.99! What a deal (or atleast I think so, compared to how much they are charging for eveything else). It makes me SICK how much they ask for music now. It is insane!! You would need to win the lottery to afford everything. Anyway, I also was able to get another copy of Ultramega OK (my first one mysteriously disappeared several years ago)!! I was feeling fairly satisfied since I had to go to 5 different places just to find a small sample of SG albums and CD's. I have to say that the one and only thing that I HATE about Seattle (and believe me this is the only thing) It is so damn hard to find anything SG. (Unless you got major bucks to spend) Several stores I went to were completely sold out of everything they had that was SG related. I had better luck finding rareties in Idaho. Well, if anyone in the area has any suggestions of places to go where they won't totally rip you off--please let me know. I'm still looking for a SOMMS CD (I can't afford $60 which is what they are asking at Cellophane Square) and a BIMH single CD. I would appreciate any help I could get. Just one more thing---- have a mentioned that Ben kicks ass!!!! JEN ------------------------------ Subject: Sheryl Crow... From: soundgrdn3@juno.com (M R) Does that photographer guy in the new Sheryl Crow video remind anyone else of Matt Cameron, or is it just me? ------------------------------ From: endless_nameless@prodigy.com (GRRL NIKI FREER) Subject: Internet Message overfloater wrote: >A Friend of mine met this bouncer who worked backstage at >a Soundgarden concert. Know what his job was??? He had to hold >a big box of condoms and distribute them to the line of girls >waiting to screw Cornell. THey just went in, one after another, woah, wait a minute. i thought we had more respect for CC than that. come one people he is a married man! and, as Kim once said "we're sex, drugs and rock n' roll...without the sex and the drugs." please tell me you DON'T believe this cause it's a load and a half of bullshit. mind riot ____ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ i'm tied within i'm luck's last match struck in the pouring down wind... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ From: overfloater@thenexus.com Subject: Re: Found this on the SG newsgroup today :> CL>> a Soundgarden concert. Know what his job was??? He had to hold CL>> a big box a condoms and distribute them to the line of girls CL>> waiting to screw Cornell. THey just went in, one after another, CL>> like an assembly line or something. So, ladies, if your into CL>> that kinda action, get backstage passes to a SG concert! CL>this is not a flame... CL>DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE THIS???? DO ANY OF YOU FOR A SECOND REALLY BELIEVE CL>THIS??? ok, this isn't a flame either... OF COURSE I DON'T BELIEVE IT! IF ANYONE DOES BELIEVE THAT, THEIR IQ IS BELOW, SAY, FOUR! L>i'm REALLY surprised at the source of this... you K NOW better!!! I DO know better. And I've had a fucking shitty week and reading this made me laugh, including that the girl actually BELIEVED it. I figured the rest of you could use a laugh too. Sorry I forgot to mention that OF COURSE I KNOW IT'S NOT TRUE, but I forgot, what can I say, I'm human. Next time I find something amusing on the newsgroup, you can bet your ass I won't make the mistake of posting it. CL>originate as a result of this post> sigh... I give up, I truly, truly give up. Goodbye. ------------------------------ From: mshaw@lib.occ.cccd.edu (RoseeMisst) Subject: SG SHOW IN THE MONTH OF GIVING THANKS Hey, are there any Southern Californians going to the Irvine show? The Irvine show has not really been confirmed yet, but I really don't want to see SG in the Universal Amphitheater. The Irvine Bren Center has less seats and therefore more personal. E-mail me! RoseeMisst mshaw@lib.occ.cccd.edu - -- Orange Coast College Costa Mesa California ------------------------------ From: rea47935@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu (hasswipee) Subject: Re: BIMH >> from the january 12, 1995 issue of Rolling Stone: >> "I don't have any heroin songs." -chris cornell > >with all due respect to mr. cornell, 'say hello 2 heaven' is about the >death of andrew wood, who died from a heroin overdose. therefore it is >TANGENTIALLY a heroin song, but a heroin song nonetheless. >Let's not forget "When the spoon is hot & the needle's sharp, and you drift >away" Times of Trouble on Temple ok ok i kinda expected that to happen. i thought of the temple of the dog songs when i posted but i was thinking that 1) they werent about chris, but andy doing heroin..and mostly i just thought id post and put the quote in because of what i thought was an innacurate interpretation of the lyrics to Burden.. >could we have the context of that quote, please? the context of the qoute is that the interviewer is talking to chris about kurt, and kristen (hole), and andy and drugs and seattle, and then later on he asks chris if 'the day i tried to live' was a heroin song. then chris responded with the quote. its a really good article, its on seth's page if anyone wants to read it. its january 12, 1995 rolling stone. ------------------------------ From: mshaw@lib.occ.cccd.edu (RoseeMisst) Subject: Re: Found this on the SG newsgroup today :> > Subject: Chris Cornell is a sex maniac!!! >From: JILL <945@cyberstreet.com> >Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 00:58:56 -0400 >Message-ID: <325C8290.2D82@cyberstreet.com> > >A Friend of mine met this bouncer who worked backstage at >a Soundgarden concert. Know what his job was??? He had to hold >a big box a condoms and distribute them to the line of girls >waiting to screw Cornell. THey just went in, one after another, >like an assembly line or something. So, ladies, if your into >that kinda action, get backstage passes to a SG concert! > >Jill > > DAMN...me and my mom were just discussing how women are perceived in society. That's just plain sick when you think about it. Chris is a married man, dammit! He's so damn fine, but those girls don't have a chance in hell to be screwed by Chris! - -- Orange Coast College Costa Mesa California ------------------------------ From: Challand Subject: Hey Artists/Musicans/Bands !!! Hey Soundgarden Dudes! I'm working on a webpage called 'Fire' http://www.angelfire/sc/fire You can go to it but you won't find much 'cause i'm not done yet. 'Fire' is a Art and Music Gallery. If you are an artist in some way (i'm looking for cool photos, drawings, paintings, sound clips, video clips, music clips, poems, etc.) and if you would like your stuff to be Fire's Art Gallery, (for free!!!!) please send me your stuff, mailto:sky_fire@hotmail.com I'm also having a section for music. If you have a band, you could be the Fire Feature Band of The Month. Please mailto:sskylar@hotmail.com for more info. Thanks alot! - -Skylar Challand ------------------------------ From: The Guitarist-2001 Subject: Re: importance of lyrics? At 03:55 AM 10/11/96 +0000, Lance wrote: >Chris >Cornell is a masterful and soulful poet. . . . > Just check out Flutter Girl, >Overfloater, Searching with my Good Eye Closed, Holy Water, Room A Thousand >Years Wide. The man is brilliant. Note that Chris did not write Room a Thousand Years Wide, Kim did . . . :-) The Guitarist-2001, standing up for the guitarist (Kim, that is) SATRIANI=TOMORROW!!! (probably today by the time I actually send this) "The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist" - The Usual Suspects Did you check out CORE yet? CORE - The Ultimate Site For Teens: http://members.aol.com/dczoner/index.html - Soundgarden=band of the month! (...any suggestions for a guitar page?) ------------------------------ From: The Guitarist-2001 Subject: Re: *Poetry class* At 04:08 PM 10/10/96 +0000, ONE & ONLY ALI-G wrote: >Well you may or many not remember my incident with Jesus Christ Pose... > >But my professor finally kicked me out of the class.... > >However...I still say Chris is a poet........I'm in the process of trying to >get back in the class ....If I can get enough support for Chris's lyrics as a >form of poetry....then I'll get back in the class....So I ask that each of you >email me...and support Chris's lyrics as poetry....Please.... > I DO NOT F---ING BELIEVE THIS!!! You got kicked out of the class?!?! For CHRIS CORNELL'S BEAUTIFUL WRITING?! Ok, your teacher is insane . . . as for supporting: Well, I don't know if JCP was exactly the best selection for poetry, since it isn't exactly one of Chris' deeper songs, due to the fact that it's really just about the pose, and not really much deeper than that. But if you'd taken in a song like: Room a Thousand Years Wide (even though it's Kim), Black Hole Sun, THE DAY I TRIED TO LIVE, SEASONS, SEARCHING WITH MY GOOD EYE CLOSED, Mind Riot, Fell on Black Days, FOURTH OF JULY, BURDEN IN MY HAND, or BOOT CAMP (and a # of others, but I think those are probably the MOST poetic, especially the capitalized ones), and your teacher STILL objected, then there would be definately something wrong. In the case of these listed songs, and many others, I believe that Chris is a better poet than some of the world's more distinguished poets. Especially those capitalized songs, they have all the qualities of good poetry, similies/metaphors ("Like angels in a cage"), descriptive scenes ("Shower in the dark day, clean sparks diving down, cool in the waterway, where the baptized drown, naked in the cold sun, breathing life like fire, thought I was the only one, but that was just a lie"), open to interpretation for thousands of meanings (I mean, just look at all the discussions we've had here about the meanings of songs like Burden in My Hand and Slaves & Bulldozers!), and many other things! (I'm in kind of a hurry so I gotta sum this up) - CHRIS CORNELL IS MORE POETIC THAN MANY POETS THAT I HAVE READ, and I'm talking about poems in my English class poetry book! none of those poems have inspired me so much as: "Words we say never seem to live up to the ones inside our head, Lives we make never seem to ever get us anywhere but dead" and assorted other lyrics! That man is one of the most poetic people that has ever lived! Long live k(s)ing(er)! ummm yeah . . . . . .oh, and just because I'm special, I'm also going to send this to the list ;-) The Guitarist-2001 SATRIANI = yeah, you probably all know by now . . . "The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist" - The Usual Suspects Did you check out CORE yet? CORE - The Ultimate Site For Teens: http://members.aol.com/dczoner/index.html - Soundgarden=band of the month! (...any suggestions for a guitar page?) ------------------------------ From: "Michael Kruse" Subject: electshun THUG 4 SHERRIFF THUG 4 SHERRIFF ------------------------------ From: Eliza J Polly Subject: hey >Not only is he the meanest hombre this side of... somewhere... but he's also a tyrant,... who else would you rather have performing that full cavity body search on ya? ;-) Hey now - none of that! Hehe, this made me laugh .. a tyrant!!!!! ;-) Anywho....hey listers...been out of town on business, to the "rocking' land of the home of John Cougar Mellencamp (saw his house, and no, it is NOT little or pink;-).....anyway, there is pretty god awful radio in those parts of Indiana (sorry fellow IN listers) , but believe it or not, I was flipping around and actually heard "DUSTY" on the radio - yes...Dusty!!! I think it was some small college station, but it made my trip a hell of a lot better!! And to those who have written me, I am not ignoring you - I have 110 emails to get thru and I will write all back. As for the election, I have already stated my obvious support for Aaron as SOMMS Sherrif and I have an added announcement to make ... I just spoke to him and he (assuming victory..) has appointed me as his official SOMMS Deputy :-) I took the Oath and everything. But don't worry, I am not nearly as much of a "mean tryant' as he is , hehe ;-) But I will uphold the details of my Oath (not to be disclosed here) and will infinitely enjoy this election way more than Nov. 4ths... c-ya! - --Eliza, your newly appointed Somms Deputy ------------------------------ From: Heather Aston Subject: Seattle, Hater on Halloween Here is my tale of woe (pronounce the word "woe" like Joey Lawrence to get the right effect) I was looking forward to going to Seattle this month. Meeting Caryn, Shroom, Dena, seeing Hater at the OK Hotel, and most importantly, to see whether this was a city I could live in. I am currently having cold water thrown on my plans by my mom and my grandmother. A little background-I graduated in May and was promised a trip as a graduation present. So this is what I wanted for the trip. I don't have a job, so this trip is courtesy of my family. But I made the mistake of saying that I was going to meet some people who I had met from this mailing list. My grandmother is now convinced that Caryn, Shroom et. al are luring me to Seattle and will kill me. I kid you not. She keeps saying that if I go she will plan her funeral because if something happens to me, it will kill her. My mom doesn't want me to go because 1)it's upsetting her mother 2)it bothers her that I'm meeting people who "have something to do with some band." Why, oh, why didn't I say this list was about art or something? That's what I get for being honest. Well, I am going to figure something out. One other problem. I was going to stay at the Moore hotel-I figured it couldn't be too bad if Shroom and Dena were staying there. But now they aren't. Caryn, other Seattle people, where can I stay? Such is my tale of woh! ------------------------------ From: UnknMan@aol.com Subject: Re: heroin in Cornell's music. 'me' wrote: >But surely, if he wrote the songs he should know better than anyone else >what they're actually about!?! Good art can mean more than what the artist intended. I get totally different ideas from music, poerty, prose, etc than what the artist did because I think freely. I don't let anyone's views crowd mine. I can take other's opinions & (maybe) incorporate them into mine but only if I agree with them. To be honest I don't really care what an artist meant by a particular song (generally speaking) because I normally don't know this person, don't relate to them directly, nor do I expect to be able to discuss the lyrics with them on a personal basis. Now if Thayil came over for an afternoon & asked my opinion on what 'NTMF' meant, I'd expect his feelings as well otherwise I think my view of the song's pretty cool. I'd actually be upset to find out that it's simply a string of words that sound good together. ray (c: ------------------------------ Subject: hype! chicago opening From: Ben Timberlake Ben here, from the web page. >Subject: hype! distribution > >there are two official hype! websites out there, one on subpop and one at >http://www.leonardo.net/hype! neither have much interesting stuff there >(yet), but what is of interest is the distribution schedule. > >in the interest of the webless, i'll relate some of it here: > >november 8: seattle and nyc >nov. 22: boston (kendall square - you don't have far to walk, seth) >san francisco >berkeley >san jose >santa cruz >austin, tx >portland, or >olympia, wa (BONNIE) Nov. 22 is also the Chicago premiere. Any listers interested in getting together for such an event? We can talk about it when we meet up for the shows. We _are_ still doing that, right? Btw, Did anyone hear Bob Dole mention "Chris Cornell of Soundgarden" during the debate last week? I couldn't believe that. Course, it may have been the fertilizer I was inhaling that made me hear it, but it sounded _so_ appropriate. -- Ben Ben Timberlake About suffering they were Northwestern University never wrong, The Old Masters... Medill School of Journalism CUBS # 1479 ***btimlake@nwu.edu*** -30- http://pubweb.acns.nwu.edu/~bft718 "I can't think of anything that would sound guiltier than a man who hasn't been accused of anything protesting his innocence." -- Ralph Fiennes, "Quiz Show" ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 2 Issue 271] ****************************************