From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Thursday, 26 Sep 1996 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 01:28:20 EDT Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Thursday, 26 Sep 1996 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: #15...swallow my fries Mellowgarden Re: All this flamin' [Not much Sg] Please Read. RE: Searching as an Intro..... Re: like dying soldiers... Ben Shepherd->Mr.Full, Have, or Empty Hand? THE GARDENERS Re: old, new fav Re: best SG line dotu upside.. puns are fun Re: Bowling with Riki Re: Mellowgarden Tickets for DC Re: like dying soldiers... Re: dotu upside.. puns are fun RE: Seth's remarks RE: THE GARDENERS Re: like dying soldiers... Re: Searching as an Intro..... Re: Kozik, etc. Re: Kozik, etc. DOTU does not suck Matt's Druming Re: like dying soldiers... Re: Matt's Druming Re: Matt's Druming Re: old, new fav 5-3 = unity RE: no declaration of conformity here...Truly knights of the soundtable i got the urge to ride yr trike... One Metric Bevy of Topics: A Lurker Speaks Out! I talked to Chris. Re: Matt's Druming Re: old, new fav Re: Matt's Druming Re: old, new fav Moby Remix of "Dusty"-?? Re: Matt's Druming NY Soundgarden fanclub members RE: old, new fav Re: Moby Remix of "Dusty"-?? http://www.brandeis.edu Re: One Metric Bevy of Topics: A Lurker Speaks Out! Re: NY Soundgarden fanclub members Re: NY Soundgarden fanclub members Re: random stuff New York Shows RE: Some Stories... RE: dont like, hate - HA HA! ------------------------------------------------------------ From: Eric Gardner Subject: #15...swallow my fries Freebie #15 consists of an SG BMF logo postcard and an audio tape of the Rockview interview cd (watch out for that "Crazy" Chris Tetley, besides SG he has interviewed Bon fuckin' Jovi, for chrissakes:) As usual: email to enter, name drawn at random, only the winner need provide an address, void where prohibited. If Seth would not allow any new subscribers I wouldn't have to repeat this over and over again.:) Eric ------------------------------ From: Warren Dyson Subject: Mellowgarden There seems to be a lot of discussion on the list about some of the material on DOTU lacking depth. Ahem.... Bollocks. Soundgarden are simply chilling out. Music is directly linked to emotion, thus ONLY angry people can write angry songs (with any sincerity). Just think how difficult it must be to continue that trend when you've got stacks of fans & shed loads of cash. Metallica tried it this time after having a 5 year break (during this time I would guess that they may have enjoyed themselves sightly), and the result..... LOAD (of wank, mostly) Compare it to 'And justice for all....', No contest. It is inevitable that artists must change direction eventually, or they end up writing crap material just for the sake of crowd pleasing. I would prefer it if bands wrote songs about things they understand, Soundgarden do just that. I also fail to see how anyone could view DOTU as 'shallow', rather than just 'different' & 'perfect'. Laters, Warren. "The only kind of gardening I like is.... SOUNDGARDENING" - W.D. ------------------------------ From: Mercyhurst Prep Library Subject: Re: All this flamin' [Not much Sg] Please Read. At 07:37 PM 9/24/96 -0700, you wrote: > >I would like to say something to hopefully put to rest this flame war. I am >aware of the fact that this is not SG related but it is list related and I >think it should be said. Please do not flame me for this. > >I would like to speak up in the defense of Joe Cennamo. I think that >everyone has the right to live and would never wish death and/or >pain/eternal pain on anyone but I think that what Joe said was only a joke >in very bad taste. Joe has admirably spoken up in his defense saying that >it was only a joke and I believe that everyone should be able to forgive him >for his comments. > >What I am very disturbed by are the comments being made that Joe is making >racist remarks and (this apawls me greatly) "spreading KKK propaganda." How >dare someone say that one of our fellow Soundgarden Listmembers is >"spreading KKK propaganda" by making a comment, no matter in how >questionable of taste, that he was glad that a certain "Gangsta'" rap artist >was dead. The Ku Klux Klan are a group of Evil, Racist people that believe >that is their duty to murder non white-arayn people. This is a Huge insult, >especially to a 15 year old boy that is still maturing and who's comments >from his peers can greatly influence his life. > >I believe that all parties are at fault and that apologies could have easily >remedied this situation a while ago. I do not see any reason why Joe should >be kicked off the list. > >Thank you for allowing me to express my opinions. > > ---Ryland Aldrich > aldrich@nwlink.com And I'd like to second this also! This list should be about being able to say what we wish about alot of things! I've found some good friends on this list w/ whom I can share NONSg stuff and we talk about alot of things. Hey, until the Republicans have their way, this is a free country--VOTE CLINTON. Plus, as Joe C. himself said, look at his last name--he has probably been the target of race related comments himself. I don't like rap, it's violent and sexist, but if someone on the list does like it, that's their choice. The Tupak thing was regretable, but there's a heck of a lot of stuff going on that the public doesn't know about in that case. Anyway.....dear fellow listers....we are not about flaming each other over things we personally don't like! There is that good ol' delete key on everyone's email. And I bet someone just deleted my message! Thanks, dear family, for letting me add my 2 liras worth! deb ------------------------------ From: "Christopher M. Farley" Subject: RE: Searching as an Intro..... The Spoonman clip isn't really acoustic, more of a raw demo. It appears = when they are stapling a sign for CITIZEN DICK on the telephone pole. Chris - ---------- From: Kazam Ali[SMTP:Kazam.Ali@nsc.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 1996 12:47 AM To: somms@MIT.EDU Subject: Searching as an Intro..... Hey everyone, I don't post very often, but here are a few of my blurps... Does ANY avid guitar player out there have a comprehensive TAB of Birth=20 Ritual???!!! If so, can I get a copy? Second question...I think I asked this before, but no one replied...A=20 friend of mine keeps on telling me that there is a quick sound clip of an acoustic "Spoonman" in the=20 movie, "Singles." Is this true? and if it is, where in the hell does it play?? I rented it a few weeks ago, = but couldn't hear the track, the only acoustic number was "Seasons."! In response to The Guitarist's question about SG's using Searching as an = intro....In the last two times I've seen SG in concert, Chris usually=20 sings softly (almost whispers) the first verse"a-capella", if you will,=20 over the top of that unmistakeable ringing G-string. Truly awesome. =20 I've never heard them play that Speak and Spell? part, "Do you hear a=20 cow?", "The devil says",though........I have a boot from a '94 San Jose=20 show where they used the song in the middle of the set, BUT Chris's=20 voice is exceptional, because of the aforementioned great opening and=20 when he yells, not screams, at the top of his lungs, the line, "Stop=20 your trying to bruise my mind......" Sends chills down my spine=20 everytime! Oh yeah. By far, SG's best number is Birth Ritual. Hands down. =20 Chris's voice is phenomenal and as someone may have mentioned before,=20 the main guitar riff is absolutely addicting!! Worst song....Exit Stonehenge---need I say more. Thanks for readin'! Kazam ------------------------------ Subject: Re: like dying soldiers... From: tonerkin@usa.pipeline.com (Tonerkin) On Sep 25, 1996 10:24:09, 'blind dog ' wrote: >I >wonder if the band can ever record another album that can, within the >confines of only 12 songs, be as comprehensive or concise as the >masterwork that badmotorfinger surely is. I think Soundgarden is capable of it.... whether it happens no one knows. I think alot of musicians fall into this is our "masterpiece" trap. If you feel you have reached a pinnacle where can you go after that. Why is it that great artists i.e. Da Vinci, Raphael had more than one masterpiece but you will here people talk about a group's definitive Album and/or CD singular. A majority of fans are fickle(I'm not talking sommsters here) and the ones that think BMF or SU are their best work may close their minds to different material. I think it must be very frustrating for musicians to explore and experiment with new sounds and rhythms and than have *fans* tell them it sucks and they don't want to listen to it. At my age I have lived and died with many bands. And there is nothing more sad than have a favorite band disappear from the music scene for whatever reason(death, disharmony or lack of units sold) and never hear another note of music from them. It breaks your heart. I just hope Soundgarden can continue to give all of us the pleasure of hearing their music and seeing it performed live. toni ------------------------------ From: dumo13@erols.com Subject: Ben Shepherd->Mr.Full, Have, or Empty Hand? Hello. Well, for some reason, I didn't get a tuesday digest. So, if I missed it you all will have to forgive me. This is the first time I've been able to post for a while so; H H A PPPP PPPP Y Y BBBB DDDD AA Y Y H H A A P P P P Y Y B B D D A A Y Y HHHH AAAAA PPPP PPPP YYY BBBB #### D D AAAAAA YYY H H A A P P Y B B D D A A Y H H A A P P Y BBBB DDDD A A Y ### ### # BBBBBBBBBBBBB EEEEEEEEEEEEEE NNNN NNNNN #### BBBBBBBBBBBBBB EEEEEEEEEEEEEE NNNNN NNNNN #### BBB BBB EEEE NNNNNN NNNNN #### BBB BBBB EEEE NNNNNNN NNNNN #### BBB BBBBB EEEEEEEEEEEEEE NNN NNNN NNNNN #### BBB BBBBB EEEEEEEEEEEEEE NNN NNNN NNNNN #### BBBBBBBBBBBBBBB EEEE NNN NNNN NNNNN #### BBBBBBBBBBBBBB EEEE NNN NNNN NNNNN #### BBB BBBBB EEEE NNN NNNN NNNNN #### BBB BBBBB EEEE NNN NNNNNNNNN #### BBB BBBBB EEEE NNN NNNNNNNN #### BBB BBBBBB EEEE NNN NNNNNNN #### BBB BBBBB EEEE NNN NNNNNN #### BBB BBBBB EEEEEEEEEEEEEEE NNN NNNNN BBBBBBBBBBBBBBB EEEEEEEEEEEEEEE NNN NNNNN #### C'mon, where are all the Ben Shepherd freaks? Does anyone know how he got his voice so high on HALF? Did they use and octaver? I think Ben has been the single greatest influence in SG in the past five years. He's a fantastic musician and truly original. Chris PS If all goes well, i shall have pit seats (oxymoron) to the Washington, DC show in my hot little hands by noon tomorrow! ------------------------------ From: CHRIS L MILLER Subject: THE GARDENERS i notice a lot of pissed off longtime fans of sg on the lines. it seems as though today no one is allowed the privilege of being a true fan unless they have been supportive of the band from day 0. what the fuck's up with that? haven't you ever DISCOVERED something new and exciting that opened your good eye and made your heart shake with anticipation? i too became a sg fan with the release of sUPErUnkNOwn. i am not ashamed of this in the least. living in a small town did not allow me the luxury of going to clubs and seeing these bands when they were just in their infancy. when i heard from some of my college friends talking about super... , i went out and risked the sale. my brain swam in the lyrics and my ears cried to the peals of sg's melancholy riffs and straining melodies. i became thirsty for more, so i bought BADMOTORFINGER, LOUDER THAN LOVE and anything i could get my sweaty little palms on. i DID NOT (not that i need to justify my actions to anyone), be- come a sg fan because of the "popularity" factor or because of any MTV mindfuck. i love head down and half just as much, if not better, than black hole sun. my life (as pathetic as it sounds) would not be the same had i not been privy to sg's pouring their sounds into my skull. i do not need to gratify anyone by buying any sellout band's stuff just because i want to be in a fucking CK1 ad. i am a fan because i can somehow, in some intangible way, relate to the lyrics and sometimes muddled messages that sg place in my system. i need their strength to sustain mine. if it's true that "the lives we make never seem to ever get us anywhere but dead", then i will make the most of mine. and if being a new sg fan (2 yrs) makes living worthwhile, then no one will tell me otherwise. Chris ------------------------------ From: new wave biscuit Subject: Re: old, new fav On Tue, 24 Sep 1996, infinite wrote: > ps > seth, i was kind of surprised at yer message about newer sg songs.. it just surprised me... i do see what yer talking about though.. since i've gotten all of the earlier sg albums.. i don't listen to DOTU as much.. it just doesn't seem to hold up to earlier stuff, it's weird, and i'm not sure i like it... > *sigh!* I really don't see why everybody's picking on DotU all of a sudden. I'm a big SG fan and I like ALL of their albums. I think each one represents a stage in the band's career and outlines what they, as individuals are going through at the time. I can't see how anybody can call any of the newer songs "weak" or "thin". There's a lot of songs on DotU which are just as good as the older ones. There seems to be this attitude in the world of Rock music of late where people immediately criticize a band's most recent album regardless of what it sounds like, beacause they think that by doing so, it makes them proper fans or something, especially if they start saying "I prefer their old stuff better". The way I see it is this: Whether its new stuff or old stuff Soungarden is Soundagrden and its ALL excellent. It may all be different, but its all good. Quite frankly, if SG had put out another two Badmotorfingers since 1991, I would've gotten bored and stopped listening to them by now. - -me ------------------------------ From: new wave biscuit Subject: Re: best SG line On Tue, 24 Sep 1996, Josh Broedel wrote: > come on now 8>) "words you say, never seem to live up to the ones inside > your head" from TDITTL has got to be the best line, in fact, that song is > full of great lyrics. > My favourite lyric is also from that song: "The day I tried to live/I stole a thousand beggars change and gave it to the rich..." - -me ------------------------------ From: infinite Subject: dotu upside.. puns are fun anyone remember when DOTU came out, everyone was saying it was = incredible? i just thought it was funny people are having second = thoughts or something.. as far as songs that stand up to previous matierial, i think pretty = noose is still a smooth song, even w/ the amount of airplay it got.. = burden is really good.. and applebite is one of the neatest songs i've = ever heard.. they all have good qualities about them.. earlier work from = sg takes time (in most cases) to grow on you, these songs seem to grab = ahold and stay there for me.. i know i said somehting to the contrary, = but then i thought about it, and realized i didn't feel that way.. (it = took a listening to DOTU to convince me i was wrong) and as far as i'm = concerned this album has some of ben's best work.. musically, lyrically, = if only he had sang. what could be better than DOTU?? ti goes for a = different feel than previous albums.. doesn't anyone remember the = threads about listening to it and feeling like yer the only person = left?? i've completely changed my mind, this is damn close to my = favorite sg album.. i love the way it sounds.. production is exactly = where it needs to be, g-tars have very good tones (argue this, if you = can), and chris's voice beats the pants off of bmf... not that that is a = bad album, but it's just old.. this is where they are now, and it is = good.. infinite ------------------------------ From: Taylor Holmes Subject: Re: Bowling with Riki Scroggin wrote: > > Misty Shaw wrote: > > > > Another piece of Soundgarden history: Does anybody remember when > > Soundgarden was on Headbanger's Ball?(months before it went off the air) > > Chris and the Gang were bowling with Riki Rachtman. It was an episode that > > made you feel good, because the episode showed Soundgarden as a humble > > band, with goofy antics. Oh yes... that's the first time I saw Chris sporting the fork... What a great HB episode that was... Latrt, Taylor ------------------------------ From: new wave biscuit Subject: Re: Mellowgarden On Wed, 25 Sep 1996, Warren Dyson wrote: > There seems to be a lot of discussion on the list about some of the material > on DOTU lacking depth. Ahem.... Bollocks. Soundgarden are simply chilling out. > > Music is directly linked to emotion, thus ONLY angry people can write angry > songs (with any sincerity). Just think how difficult it must be to continue > that trend when you've got stacks of fans & shed loads of cash. Metallica > tried it this time after having a 5 year break (during this time I would > guess that they may have enjoyed themselves sightly), and the result..... > > LOAD (of wank, mostly) > > Compare it to 'And justice for all....', No contest. > > It is inevitable that artists must change direction eventually, or they end > up writing crap material just for the sake of crowd pleasing. I would prefer > it if bands wrote songs about things they understand, Soundgarden do just > that. I also fail to see how anyone could view DOTU as 'shallow', rather > than just 'different' & 'perfect'. > > Laters, > Warren. > > "The only kind of gardening I like is.... SOUNDGARDENING" - W.D. Although I agree with your appraisal of DotU not being a weak album (as many have said it to be), I wouldn't say that they're "chilling out" as such (I hate that term!!). Again people say this about ANY band's most recent album. I'd just put it down to the fact that they're different people now. Its not necessarily money and fans that have affected them (that viewpoint is overly cynical - if what you say is true then how is it that bands like Sepultura and Pantera still make very "angry" music despite their huge fanbase and "shed loads of cash"? See?), its just life. As you go through life you change, mature, evolve, you LEARN and as things around you shape and change you, your whole outlook on life changes and this is reflected in everything you do due to the fact that one's personality is echoed and refleceted in everything an individual does. Chiefly, I'd agree with a comment Caryn made earlier about Soundgarden finally coming into their own after all these years - it has only just started. Basically, Soundgarden have gotten older, they don't have anything to prove to anyone anymore, they're not out to give the little Rock-kids something to bang their heads to in the privacy of their own bedroom (or whatever), they're simply doing what THEY want to do, making the music THEY want to make - and as I said before elsewhere - fair play to 'em. If I was in a band, I'd do exaclty the same thing. If people can't appreciate the fact that SG want to do something different, and can't accept the fact that they're different people now, then they can move on to something else. Nobody's forcing anybody to keep on listening to a band they're so disillusioned with - least of all the band themselves, as I'm quite sure that, despite most people's criticisms of their new direction. They really couldn't care less. - -me ------------------------------ Subject: Tickets for DC From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) Seth and other in the Washington, DC area.... Tickets go on sell tomorrow at 10:00 AM (Sept 26th). Toni, Eliza do you want tickets???? Jamie (Village Idiot) ------------------------------ From: new wave biscuit Subject: Re: like dying soldiers... On Wed, 25 Sep 1996, Tonerkin wrote: > I think Soundgarden is capable of it.... whether it happens no one > knows. I think alot of musicians fall into this is our "masterpiece" trap. > If you feel you have reached a pinnacle where can you go after that. Why > is it that great artists i.e. Da Vinci, Raphael had more than one > masterpiece but you will here people talk about a group's definitive Album > and/or CD singular. A majority of fans are fickle(I'm not talking > sommsters here) and the ones that think BMF or SU are their best work may > close their minds to different material. I think it must be very > frustrating for musicians to explore and experiment with new sounds and > rhythms and than have *fans* tell them it sucks and they don't want to > listen to it. I couldn't agree with you more!! I remember Ministry saying in an interview (with good ol' Kerrang(!)) before Filth Pig (their latest album) came out that many of the fans who got into them through Psalm 69 wouldn't like it because it was different and experimental (and it was). Al Jourgensen simply stated that if they didn't like their new material, they could just "...get off their bandwagon...". He was right. The way I see it, if a band wants to experiment and try out different things it is entirely up to them. Nobody wants to play the same kind of stuff over and over again ad infinitum. In fact, some fans can be very scathing in the way they make bands feel guilty for wanting to diversify, by throuwing around remarks like the band's "selling out" or something stupid like that. > At my age I have lived and died with many bands. And there > is nothing more sad than have a favorite band disappear from the music > scene for whatever reason(death, disharmony or lack of units sold) and > never hear another note of music from them. It breaks your heart. That's exactly how I felt when Kyuss split up last year... :( > I just > hope Soundgarden can continue to give all of us the pleasure of hearing > their music and seeing it performed live. toni Oh... I think they will... In fact, I just *know* they will... - -me ------------------------------ From: new wave biscuit Subject: Re: dotu upside.. puns are fun On Wed, 25 Sep 1996, infinite wrote: and applebite is one of the neatest songs i've ever heard.. they all have g= ood qualities about them.. earlier work from sg takes time (in most cases) = to grow on you, these songs seem to grab ahold and stay there for me.. i kn= ow i said somehting to the contrary, but then i thought about it, and reali= zed i didn't feel that way.. (it took a listening to DOTU to convince me i = was wrong) and as far as i'm concerned this album has some of ben's best wo= rk.. musically, lyrically, if only he had sang. what could be better than D= OTU?? ti goes for a different feel than previous albums.. doesn't anyone re= member the threads about listening to it and feeling like yer the only pers= on left?? i've completely changed my mind, this is damn close to my favorit= e sg album.. i love the way it sounds.. production is exactly where it need= s to be, g-tars have very good tones (argue this, if you can), and chris's = voice beats the pants off of bmf... not that that is a bad album, but it's = just old.. this is where they are now, and it is good.. When I first heard Applebite, that songs sent shivers down my spine and=20 made the hairs at the back of my head stand on end. Its a SG masterpiece. - -me ------------------------------ From: Monnica Lewis Subject: RE: Seth's remarks I like BMF or SU best, depending on my mood. I'm 27 if that means anything. I think in general there are two "styles" of songs that I really like. I like the really aggressive stuff sometimes, like Gun or JCP or Room 1000 YW but I also like the kinda "trippy" (my word for it) stuff like Blind Dogs, 4th of July and Like Suicide. I kind of agree with Seth in a way. I think DOTU sounds much more smoothed out. I remember reading or hearing that they were going for a rawer sound but I think its the opposite. My opinion. Monnica : - ) ---------- From: James D Seymour To: somms Subject: Seth's remarks Date: Tuesday, September 24, 1996 12:57PM What I am interested in knowing is which people like which albums and why. I wonder if there is a trend say in peoples age and which album they enjoy the most. For instance I am 24 (not too old and not too young) and I prefer BMF. I am curious to see if younger listers enjoy the more recent albums. Just curious. Jamie ---Chris Cornell would have made a decent football player. The grief and agression have to be vented somewhere!---- ------------------------------ From: Monnica Lewis Subject: RE: THE GARDENERS Hi. I think maybe I made a comment along these lines but maybe it was taken the wrong way. I'm not pissed. I have mixed feelings about it. I was referring to the "trendy" people who just like something because it's "in" not because they sincerely like or understand it. I believe people can discover bands they really enjoy after they've done a few albums, I only discovered SG in '91 myself. But it's the trendies y'know. It's like I know a lot of people who BN,(before Nirvana), were really into say Madonna or Bon Jovi and their opinions and interests change w the wind. And I'm sure that when the "alternative rock" thing stops being the in thing, they will move on to whatever else comes down the pike. I don't know, maybe that's just the way people are in Indiana. Hoosiers aren't to big on anything new or different until EVERYONE ELSE IS DOING IT and then they all quickly try to conform to this new image. Am I making sense? Anyway, that's all I meant. Monnica : - ) ---------- From: S_CLMILLER To: SOMMS Subject: THE GARDENERS Date: Wednesday, September 25, 1996 10:37AM i notice a lot of pissed off longtime fans of sg on the lines. it seems as though today no one is allowed the privilege of being a true fan unless they have been supportive of the band from day 0. what the fuck's up with that? haven't you ever DISCOVERED something new and exciting that opened your good eye and made your heart shake with anticipation? i too became a sg fan with the release of sUPErUnkNOwn. i am not ashamed of this in the least. living in a small town did not allow me the luxury of going to clubs and seeing these bands when they were just in their infancy. when i heard from some of my college friends talking about super... , i went out and risked the sale. my brain swam in the lyrics and my ears cried to the peals of sg's melancholy riffs and straining melodies. i became thirsty for more, so i bought BADMOTORFINGER, LOUDER THAN LOVE and anything i could get my sweaty little palms on. i DID NOT (not that i need to justify my actions to anyone), be- come a sg fan because of the "popularity" factor or because of any MTV mindfuck. i love head down and half just as much, if not better, than black hole sun. ------------------------------ Subject: Re: like dying soldiers... From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) >I just >hope Soundgarden can continue to give all of us the pleasure of hearing >their music and seeing it performed live. toni Agree 100% Toni, but it is also frustrating to hear a band go on and on without creating new sounds or do this lets put the old band back together and see if we can squeeze a few more $$ out of people. Don't get me wrong, if you could put the original members of the Doors or Led Zep on stage and have them do "NEW" songs that thrill you like the old one did - great. I really hope Soundgarden can keep giving us music on a continuous wave.. Do you think you (those of you who are in your 20's) can or will be willing to go to a Soundgarden show in 25 or 30 years. Now remember Kim and Chris will be in their 50/60's!!!! I'm sure Toni and I will be there, we may need our canes, wheelchairs, walkers, and maybe someone younger to help us.. Unless we are watching Morrison, Hendrix, Gallagher, Keith Moon, Janis and associated others in a jam session at Club Purgatory! :-) Jamie (Village Idiot - who will never be too old to Rock 'n' roll) ------------------------------ From: Dicknail@aol.com Subject: Re: Searching as an Intro..... In a message dated 96-09-25 02:02:30 EDT, you write: >Second question...I think I asked this before, but no one replied...A >friend of mine keeps on telling >me that there is a quick sound clip of an acoustic "Spoonman" in the >movie, "Singles." Is this true? and >if it is, where in the hell does it play?? I rented it a few weeks ago, >but couldn't hear the track, the only acoustic >number was "Seasons."! its where jeff [maybe?justa guess] is pinning up poster for Citizen Dick.... its very short, right before the PJ scene i think.... [im gonna go watch it now so if im wrong ill tell you all in approximately 97 mnutes =) ] DykeNail ------------------------------ From: mshaw@lib.occ.cccd.edu (Misty Shaw) Subject: Re: Kozik, etc. Anybody who's a soundgarden fan saw the video "pretty noose". Before the video aired, I heard rumors that a graphic poster artist was doing the video. I'm a big fan of Frank Kozik's posters, and I assumed that he would be the best candidate of directing the video. If any of you have seen his work, you can compare it to the video. The video's full of these dark, swirling images. Anyway, for those of you not familiar with Kozik(or just want to get a kick out of some bitching graphics), check out these sites: (for a kickass silkscreen involving Soundgarden/Pearl Jam:) http://www.hooked.net/julianne/info-k1.html others: www.fanasylum.com/kozik/kozikposter.html (or, you could just search for the name "Frank Kozik") Here's something kinda interesting. De La Soul has a sort of parallel to Soundgarden. On their 3rd CD, Buhloone Mind State, they say in the intro, "It might blow up, but it won't go POP." Being that De La Soul had a few hits and have never been popular like Snoop Doggy Dogg, they never sold out and in my opinion, still bring kickass beats and eccentric lyrics to their fans. I was just thinking that Soundgarden is becoming ever more popular. Let's hope that they DO NOT go the Smashing Pumpkins route. (I don't really hate Smashing Pumpkins, but they are definitely overexposed). Someone posted a note recently that Chris was wearing some designer clothes(Donna Karan) which is all fine and dandy, but let's hope that we don't see him in a magazine ad for Georgio Armani(even though he is extremely FINE!) - -- Orange Coast College Costa Mesa California ------------------------------ From: "Dee Dee Bradshaw-autry" Subject: Re: Kozik, etc. On Sep 25, 10:19am, Misty Shaw wrote: > Subject: Re: Kozik, etc. > Anybody who's a soundgarden fan saw the video "pretty noose". actually that is a pretty big assumption...i am a SG fan...and not only have i not seen the pretty noose video, i havent seen any video ever of SG...for that matter, i havent ever seen any video by any band...not all music fans watch TV or have cable...in fact...ive never even seen MTV...and judging from what i have heard i havent missed a thing...my point being...what was my point anyway? oh...i dont understand why one has to meet certain criteria to be considered a "fan"... DeeDee...apparently not a "real" fan :) - -- ******************************************************************************** Dee Dee Bradshaw-Autry "Be careful with me...I am fragile. Im a bitch babe...and Im on fire" Garbage http://www.infochase.com/ent/deedee/index.html "The shortest distance between two points may be a straight line, but the longest distance between them is `life'." SubG "Sleep tight for me...I'm gone..." Sound Garden ******************************************************************************** ------------------------------ From: "mcinturff, dylan" Subject: DOTU does not suck SOMMS people- I just wanted to make a statement in reference to all the DOTU bashing I've heard lately. Frankly, I like it a whole lot no matter what anyone else thinks. Seth, don't kick me off the list for this, but you CANNOT expect a band to put out the same album again and agin and again. I get this from people who used to like Pearl Jam and are upset that No Code isn't exactly like Ten. Get the fuck over it! I am a musician, and although I like songs that myself and members of my band have written in the past, I'm also REALLY GLAD that we write songs that are different now. I'm sure SG feels the same way. And I think everyone on the list should turn up Ty Cobb really loud and sing along, and then talk about how weak it is. Hard headed, fuck you all... Dylan ------------------------------ From: Joe Cennamo Subject: Matt's Druming I think that I mentioned in a earlier post that I was a drummer, I think thought that Matt was the best drumer I had ever heard. I was wondering if there were any other members on the list who felt the same way about Matt. joec ------------------------------ Subject: Re: like dying soldiers... From: tonerkin@usa.pipeline.com (Tonerkin) On Sep 25, 1996 12:48:02, 'jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson)' wrote: >I'm sure Toni and I will be there, we may need our canes, wheelchairs, >walkers, and maybe someone younger to help us.. Unless we are watching >Morrison, Hendrix, Gallagher, Keith Moon, Janis and associated others in a >jam session at Club Purgatory! :-) Speak for yourself heathen woman.......... I plan on using my tix to go right through those Pearly Gates. Gee! does that mean I get to hear Karen Carpenter, Dinah Shore, Lawrence Welk and Pearl Bailey jam????? Oh shit, I better start sinning right away. toni ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Matt's Druming From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) > I think that I mentioned in a earlier post that I was a drummer, I think >thought that Matt was the best drumer I had ever heard. >I was wondering if there were any other members on the list who felt the >same way about Matt. > >joec There has only been one other drummer who has held my attention, only one other who I consider a better drummer than Matt. And today is the anniversary of his death. He die after consuming 40 shots of vodka at the home of the lead guitarist for the band he was in. Do you know who it was? Jamie (Village Idiot) ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: Re: Matt's Druming On Wed, 25 Sep 1996, Jamesetta Simpson wrote: > There has only been one other drummer who has held my attention, only one > other who I consider a better drummer than Matt. And today is the > anniversary of his death. He die after consuming 40 shots of vodka at the > home of the lead guitarist for the band he was in. Do you know who it was? the one and only John Bonham of led zep. I'll agree he was an amazing powerhouse, however Keith Moon will always stay in my heart as my favorite drummer of all time... ;-) they were kindred souls, though, jamie, dontcha think? - --caryn ------------------------------ Subject: Re: old, new fav From: seth > I really don't see why everybody's picking on DotU all of a sudden. I'm > a big SG fan and I like ALL of their albums. I think each one represents > a stage in the band's career and outlines what they, as individuals are > going through at the time. I can't see how anybody can call any of the > newer songs "weak" or "thin". There's a lot of songs on DotU which are > just as good as the older ones. Give some examples. Tell us which elements of which songs on DOTU please you the most. Those who really like DOTU seem to be giving reasons such as (and I'm paraphrasing here) "this is where the band is right now" and "this is what the band wants to tell us right now" and "DOTU is far more mature than their past work." Give me an example of a song on DOTU that's "more mature" than some of their other work (note: you may not include "665->667," "One Minute Of Silence," or "Big Dumb Sex" in your comparison :) ). I'm not saying there "isn't* an example, I'm just saying I'd like to hear what you think. One of the reasons I ask this is because in order for me to enjoy music, it has to do something to me, it has to move me in some way. If it moves the band and they're thrilled with it, that's all fine and good, but it doesn't mean it affects me in the least and therefore doesn't mean I haev to enjoy it. The songs on Badmotorfinger have this incredible, powerful quality about them that just blows me away every time I listen to them. They're on a level above "rock songs." When I hear the intro to "Room A Thousand Years Wide" or "Searching With My Good Eye Closed" or "Jesus Christ Pose" I'm absolutely *glued* to the speakers. I can't shift my focus to anything else while the music is playing. About all I can do is stand there and shake my head in awe. Nothing on DOTU has that effect on me. The songs are not *bad*, don't get me wrong, but there's just something lacking. > There seems to be this attitude in the world of Rock music of > late where people immediately criticize a band's most recent album > regardless of what it sounds like, beacause they think that by doing so, > it makes them proper fans or something, especially if they start saying > "I prefer their old stuff better". I couldn't care less if I'm a "proper fan" or not: I prefer their older stuff better. > The way I see it is this: Whether > its new stuff or old stuff Soungarden is Soundagrden and its ALL > excellent. It > may all be different, but its all good. Quite frankly, if SG > had put out another two Badmotorfingers since 1991, I would've gotten > bored and stopped listening to them by now. Each time a new Soundgarden record comes out, someone says "Wow, this is their most diverse collection of songs to date." (Actually, since I only got into the band in 1992, I can only say this about the last 3 records, but whatever) And then when the next album comes out, the previous album is suddenly considered a collection of 12 or 15 of the same songs. Granted, each album has a certain "sound" to it, but I would argue much of this is due to production. Badmotorfinger is an incredibly diverse collection of songs: compare "Jesus Christ Pose" to "New Damage," for example. I don't see how I could get tired of 2 more records filled with music like this... seth ------------------------------ From: "Steven Russell Jr." Subject: 5-3 = unity Hey List! Could someone tell me if this is a book or a CD. If it's a CD, is it interview? Interview - Music? etc. etc. etc. >SOUNDGARDEN MAKING OF SUPERUNKNOWN 09/25 [$10] $8.99 I've been deleting my IGG e-catalogs lately...(for good reasons)...Can you preorder the BUtOW single yet? I'm dying to *waste* more of my money on SG. :) Has anyone seen Frank Kozik's new line of SG merch yet? Any ideas what we can expect at the souvenier stands during the North American tour besides the standard black n white t-shirts? Steve - - Can-SOMMSfest '96 (49 days left) ------------------------------ From: Carolyn Hanel Subject: RE: no declaration of conformity here...Truly Blind Dog wrote: >> something long-overdue happened last friday - I bought fast stories...from kid coma. that mysterious and far out woman from south australia mailed me a tape of the first truly long-player...... I'm so glad you liked it, Justin! :-) Remember, you also owe thanks to = Eric - for when he infomed me I'd won the Truly CD he suggested I send = you a copy, since you had wanted it so much........ >> the music is very spacy; hypnotic but still with a garage = quality....... >>.....they couldn't be thought of as soundgarden songs you can imagine = sg playing them. if you like hater or swirly yet trashy music, then you should find the album Actually, I must back up Blind Dog here. Yes, Truly is TRULY a cool = sounding band. Cheers all, Carolyn the Mysterious and Far out (actually very sick right now - too sick to think of a quote) ------------------------------ From: spierce@mpls.k12.mn.us (Sandy Pierce) Subject: knights of the soundtable i got a message from the soundgarden fan club today that said there will be more tour dates and that if you are a member of the fan club there will be a way to get tickets for the concerts even if they are sold out. it said there will be details in october about all this. i am so excited!!!! and for soundgarden songs i don't like- i don't like the chorus of fresh deadly roses, but i like the rest of the song. i just think it sounds geeky "you gave me! fresh deadly roses...". and sometimes i skip over some songs like, kickstand, circle of power, hmm, that's about it. (i just don't like kickstand for stupid reasons. i'm an animal rights activist and i hate the line "i got a saddle made of leather". i know, it's wierd. it just bugs me :)) well, i bet i had more to say, but i forgot. goodbye, amanda ------------------------------ From: endless_nameless@prodigy.com (GRRL NIKI FREER) Subject: i got the urge to ride yr trike... today i saw some kid at school with a soundgarden shirt on, and i got excited cause there are NO SG fans in my school at all, let alone in my state perhaps. so when he walked by me, as any over-excited SG fan would do, i asked him where he got his shirt. it was a SU shirt, like a tanish orange and had a superman looking thing on the front with a big "?" in it. was kinda ugly, but hey, it was SG. so the kid looks down his snotty nose at me and goes "i don't KNOW...i got it a LONG time ago..." so i snorted back at him "i wasn't being an ASSHOLE! i LIKE soundgarden!" but he didn't answer me. it's always so disenchanting when a fellow SG fan turns out to not have the same energy and excitement about them as you do. i'm the only freak in my school... how disappointing. :) thanks fer listening! mind riot ____ "It's a feeling everyone gets. Yr all happy with yr life, everything's going well, things are exciting-- when all of a sudden you realize yr unhappy in the extreme, to the point of being really, really scared. There's no particular event you can pin the feeling down to, it's just that you realize one day that everything in yr life is FUCKED!" chris cornell ------------------------------ From: clindz@wavenet.com (chris) Subject: One Metric Bevy of Topics: A Lurker Speaks Out! Best lyric: "I had a dog / he was a mix / he loved me like a god / though I was just a kid" - this perfectly captures looking back on childhood... it's not as showy or as dark as y'all's picks, but it grabs me by the back of the neck, slaps me in Captain America Underoos and flings me back to the '70s. Rap music: Wouldn't wish death or racism or being called a racist on anyone, but the words "rap" and "music" should never be used together - it's an oxymoron like "jumbo shrimp" or "military intelligence." This is not to say rap isn't a valid art form, there's just nothing "musical" about most of it, at least most that I've heard - but I should check out the new Dogg Pound before I say anything, huh? The Progression of a band: It can sometimes feel like a betrayal when a band matures or redefines their sound... it's kind of like tuning in "ER" one week to find out that it's all the same actors and characters but now they're doing "Full House." ("Little Michelle is gagging on a chicken bone! I need 10ccs of sodium pentathol on an IV push and prep for a peritoneal lavage! Stat!") But you gotta trust the band to know what they're doing. Sometimes the change is good (SG, Alice, and PJ are all growing up and better and more interesting and stuff) sometimes not so good (Metallica went from The Best Band In The World to The Big Stinky faster than you can say "Dave Navarro Haircut"). But the beauty of recorded music is that if you like the old stuff, you can listen to it as many times as your little heart desires. At no time in the history of music have people who only like the old stuff had it so good. (1600 AD: "What the f**k is this Beethoven moron doing - he used to rule when he only wrote shorter, harder stuff, and now he sucks!") New Wave Biscuit wrote: >In fact, listeniing to most SG when you're stoned is cool ** On the other hand, TYPING while stoned... Just for the record, listening to SG not stoned is also cool. In fact, doing most things not stoned is also cool. Please don't flame me, I'm not calling anyone a junkie or anything (you damn junk junkies on junk!), but drugs don't add anything you can't get by having an open mind and an active imagination (or by standing up, looking at the ceiling, and spinning around really really fast). Peace, chris * * * * * * * * * * "Dope - you are what you smoke.": Frank Zappa ------------------------------ From: Fett81@aol.com Subject: I talked to Chris. Howdy! I talked to Chris when the band was on Rockline. If anyone remembers it, or taped it, I'm Dave from Boston. I asked Kim AND Chris what weird recording methods they used on DOTUS. I was quite dissapointed when Kim didn't talk to me. Oh well.... -Fett ------------------------------ From: Ross Filipek Subject: Re: Matt's Druming Matt plays with a better "feel" than *any* other drummer I've heard (even John Bonham). He may not be a technical wizard like Neil Peart, but he's got this uncanny ability to really make the song "breathe." And when you can can tackle odd time signatures like Matt does, who needs monster technique? Do any of the other drummers on the list notice any similarity between Matt's playing and Mitch Mitchell's? Ross - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Wed, 25 Sep 1996, Joe Cennamo wrote: > I think that I mentioned in a earlier post that I was a drummer, I think > thought that Matt was the best drumer I had ever heard. > I was wondering if there were any other members on the list who felt the > same way about Matt. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "It's 106 miles to Chicago. We've got a full tank of gas, half a packet of cigarettes, it's dark and we're wearing sunglasses. Hit it." --Joliet Jake and Elwood Blues ------------------------------ From: Ross Filipek Subject: Re: old, new fav I think _Badmotorfinger_ has a much "darker" quality to it than the last two albums do. That's why I like it more. The instrumentation just seems to blend together everywhere, as opposed to on the last two records where individual parts stand out more. For example, there aren't any "Rhinosaur" guitar solos on _Badmotorfinger_, are there? That's what I think, at least. Ross - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Wed, 25 Sep 1996, seth wrote: > The songs on Badmotorfinger have this incredible, powerful quality > about them that just blows me away every time I listen to them. > They're on a level above "rock songs." When I hear the intro to "Room > A Thousand Years Wide" or "Searching With My Good Eye Closed" or > "Jesus Christ Pose" I'm absolutely *glued* to the speakers. I can't > shift my focus to anything else while the music is playing. About all > I can do is stand there and shake my head in awe. Nothing on DOTU has > that effect on me. The songs are not *bad*, don't get me wrong, but > there's just something lacking. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "It's 106 miles to Chicago. We've got a full tank of gas, half a packet of cigarettes, it's dark and we're wearing sunglasses. Hit it." --Joliet Jake and Elwood Blues ------------------------------ From: Badmotorfinger@nrunner.mil.wi.us Subject: Re: Matt's Druming Matt is without a doubt one of the best drummers of SG's style, but I'd have to say that Neil Peart of RUSH is much better overall...(And I get to go to their concert in a month!! YES!, DRUM SOLO!) BMF ------------------------------ Subject: Re: old, new fav From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) > The songs on Badmotorfinger have this incredible, powerful quality > about them that just blows me away every time I listen to them. > They're on a level above "rock songs." When I hear the intro to "Room > A Thousand Years Wide" or "Searching With My Good Eye Closed" or > "Jesus Christ Pose" I'm absolutely *glued* to the speakers. I can't > shift my focus to anything else while the music is playing. About all > I can do is stand there and shake my head in awe. Nothing on DOTU has > that effect on me. The songs are not *bad*, don't get me wrong, but > there's just something lacking. >seth Yep, that's the ticket.. This is just what I said to the list a few weeks ago. The radio station I was listening to had back to back Soundgarden. BiMH first - I could hear it but my work kept most of my attention. Then the second SG song, I think it was Outshined. I had to stop my work and just sit there and listen to each and every note. There is just a magical pull to some of the old songs. Jamie (Village Idiot) ------------------------------ From: ssssp@ix.netcom.com (S. Mohanty) Subject: Moby Remix of "Dusty"-?? I heard that Moby will be remixing Dusty as a b-side for the new Blow Up the Outside World single. Isn't this kind of stupid though?? Why is Moby remixing a Soundgarden song and more importantly an _acoustic_ rock song at that? The remix that he did of Metallica's Until It Sleeps was really fucked up and now he's going to screw up one of my favorites on the new SG album. I mean sure Moby can do some cool remixes, such as 1979 by the Smashing Pumpkins, but that song has a lot of techno vibes in it and Dusty IS NOT supposed to be a techo song! Siva "Miscommunication Disinformation A perfect waste Bite the sacred apple Suck the poison Enjoy the taste....."-Shirley Manson ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Matt's Druming From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) > On Wed, 25 Sep 1996, Jamesetta Simpson wrote: > > Do you know who it was? > > the one and only John Bonham of led zep. I'll agree he was an amazing > powerhouse, however Keith Moon will always stay in my heart as my favorite > drummer of all time... ;-) they were kindred souls, though, jamie, > dontcha think? > > --caryn Right on the money Caryn.. I'm very happy to say I saw both Bonham and Keith Moon do their stuff. There is power that only a few drummers have. I used to hate going to a show and have to sit through a 15 or 20 min. solo by the drummer. I usually used this time to hit the bathroom. But when you find a drummer who can hold you in your place, mesmerizing you with every beat then you have a true talent. There are only a few names that fit this Buddy Rich, Gene Koupa (I know spelled wrong, sorry Seth), Bonham, and the wild and crazy Keith Moon. And now we can add the name Matt Cameron to this list... I love the drums in "Karaoke". Jamie (Village Idiot) ------------------------------ From: BdMtrFngr Subject: NY Soundgarden fanclub members Can any ny area fanlub member who does not need tickets to the roseland shows please email me so that i can get tickets to the show. Unfortunately i am not in the fanclub and i am in desperate need of tickets. thanks j ------------------------------ From: Eliza J Polly Subject: RE: old, new fav I have been tempted to leave this thread alone...but there is one thing i just want to say. Can we all agree that we will not agree on this issue? People have different tastes (thank god)....there are certain things about music that you can actually say are "good or "bad" (like prod. quality, etc.) HOWEVER, whether or not someone is moved or effected by the music or whatever is a very personal and INDIVIDUAL thing.....what Seth is moved by, is not what everyone else will be moved by and vica-versa. There are no right or wrong answers...When I was in my band, we had songs that some members hated while other members loved 'em. Five years later we had a very different sound...it pleased some, didnt please others.....we all have different tastes and with music, alot of that is related to the experiences we have had. Several songs on DOTU get to me because I can relate to the mood and lyrics of many....but a year ago, my life fit better with BMF.... Anyway, i am not knocking this thread - it is nice to see some good ole SG chat - but I think we are barking up the wrong try tree by trying to determine if the album is really "good" or not.. just my $.05 (cuz i talk alot)-- eliza - --Chi SOMMS Fest "96 (44 days left!! hehe, gotcha steve)-- and btw, Dee Dee you are a REAL fan ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Moby Remix of "Dusty"-?? From: seth > I heard that Moby will be remixing Dusty as a b-side for the new Blow > Up the Outside World single. Isn't this kind of stupid though?? Decide for yourself; there's a clip of it on the official SG website. And things keep getting weirder and weirder...the ex-drummer for Ministry, Bill Rieflin, remixed "Rhinosaur," though there's no word on whether or not it will appear as a b-side to a single in the future. seth ------------------------------ From: overfloater@thenexus.com Subject: http://www.brandeis.edu i was on their web page, looking for info, how to get my butt there, etc :>, and i found something about a graduation they had there, and it was kinda vague but it gave me an idea of how big this place is... like "Mr. So and so addressed the crowd of 6,500 assembled in the Gosman Center" so its kinda small, but I'd like to see Soundgarden in something even smaller :> It's probably the smallest place I've seen em in though.. not that I've seen em yet.. Any idea how much the Rochester War Memorial holds? :> Also does anyone know how hard it is to find the Gosman Center once you get to Brandeis? I'm gonna have no clue when I get there... so.. :> It's pretty easy to get there from Albany, thankfully... Well, if you can answer my questions, I'll steal a brownie for you :> chow.. ------------------------------ Subject: Re: One Metric Bevy of Topics: A Lurker Speaks Out! From: seth > (1600 AD: "What the f**k is this Beethoven moron doing - he used to rule > when he only wrote shorter, harder stuff, and now he sucks!") But we can assume that the members of Soundgarden aren't suffering from near-total deafness at this point in their lives, right? :) seth PS - Don't send messages to the digest. Unsubscribe requests go to me directly. If you are consistently off-topic, you'll be removed from the list. Don't send chain mail to the list. ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: Re: NY Soundgarden fanclub members and i would hope that fanclub members would NOT abuse their memberships by getting tickets for anyone other than themselves. pearl jam fans are doing this now and it's disgusting and will probably cause the band to discontinue this privledge in future. get your act together!! join the fan club!! don't ask someone to abuse their membership because you couldn't join the fan club in time... - --caryn who sent in her membership the day after the showbox show... ;-) On Wed, 25 Sep 1996, BdMtrFngr wrote: > Can any ny area fanlub member who does not need tickets to the roseland > shows please email me so that i can get tickets to the show. > Unfortunately i am not in the fanclub and i am in desperate need of > tickets. > thanks > j > > ------------------------------ From: BdMtrFngr Subject: Re: NY Soundgarden fanclub members and i would hope that fanclub members would abuse their memberships so thhat I can go to a show, thank you. And by the way i put in my money for the fan club last month, but i still havent gotton anything, so thanks for the tip. On Wed, 25 Sep 1996, caryn rose wrote: > > and i would hope that fanclub members would NOT abuse their memberships by > getting tickets for anyone other than themselves. pearl jam fans are > doing this now and it's disgusting and will probably cause the band to > discontinue this privledge in future. > > get your act together!! join the fan club!! don't ask someone to abuse > their membership because you couldn't join the fan club in time... > > --caryn > who sent in her membership the day after the showbox show... ;-) > > On Wed, 25 Sep 1996, BdMtrFngr wrote: > > > Can any ny area fanlub member who does not need tickets to the roseland > > shows please email me so that i can get tickets to the show. > > Unfortunately i am not in the fanclub and i am in desperate need of > > tickets. > > thanks > > j > > > > > > ------------------------------ From: The Guitarist-2001 Subject: Re: random stuff At 10:00 PM 9/23/96 +0000, Amber wrote: >I had Seasons on this tape and when it came on he started >wincing as if in pain! And that is one of the quietest songs on the tape. I have noticed that even though it is soft and quiet and acoustic, some people don't like this song (aka - wincing in pain) due to the lack of bass . . . Thank you and you're welcome. The Guitarist-2001 "The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist" - The Usual Suspects Check out CORE - The Ultimate Site For Teens: http://members.aol.com/dczoner/index.html - Soundgarden=band of the month! (...any suggestions for a guitar page?) (please visit! We beg you! It's good, trust me!) ------------------------------ From: Mandy Crook Subject: New York Shows Hi all, now I know you have all been through this but Im one of those poor suckers that doesnt have access to the Internet so I cant look up the archives. Anyway some friends of mine from here in Sydney are going to be in NY at the time Soundgarden are going to be on (lucky bitches I hate them, Oh god to think I was actually contemplating going with them but decided I couldnt afford it.......sob sob sob). Now I have to wait until January for them to get to Australia, and that hasnt even been confirmed. Sooooo......... could someone let me know the exact dates and any info on ticket availability? Im not sure why Im doing this for them, I'll ask them to pick me up a t-shirt or something. Thanks, Mandy ------------------------------ From: Carolyn Hanel Subject: RE: Some Stories... Bonnie wrote: >>.........So he tells me about being in downtown Olympia by the Capitol Theater. He's drinking a beer and some guy walks up to him and asks if he'd like to get in to see the show. He says yeah. The guy says, if you give me your beer I'll give you a ticket. My friend Chris says sure and gives the guy a beer, who proceeds to chug it and throw the can over his shoulder. Once he's inside and the band takes the stage, he realizes that it was CC himself who gave him the ticket and chugged his beer. I thought that was cool. Bonnie, so do I!! I like hearing these sorts of anecdotes. As Deb = suggested, anyone who has met (or even knows someone who has met) any of = the band - please write and share it with us! =20 To me, Chris sounds like an alright guy - not arrogant as Overfloater's = friend thinks. And this is refreshing to know - I can enjoy music much = more if I think those who play it are decent people! BTW, hang in there, Bonnie - I'm sure (hope) people won't jump down your = throat if you ask questions that could be answered by looking on the = web! There are several of us in your same boat, after all........... Carolyn the Most Ferocious I can't get any lower; still I feel I'm sinking,......Soundgarden ------------------------------ From: Carolyn Hanel Subject: RE: dont like, hate - HA HA! >From: Aleko >Well i don't like I awake and the one Hiro sings Circle of Power..... Vasant then replied: >>Oh man, Circle of Power?! You just stabbed me in the heart! :-) I love = that song! >>I'd hafta say mine are Mood For Trouble, Drawing Flies, and that's = about it. Ha ha - Vasant! Drawing Flies?! YOU just stabbed ME in the heart! :-) = I love THAT Song! It's true. I do. But you see, we could keep going on around and around in circles here. = Of course some of us will dislike songs that other people like. I think = when (uh oh, I can't even remember who it was now - sorry) the person = originally asked for people to speak up on which SG songs they don't = like, he/she was interested in seeing that only. As I am. I think it's = interesting to see what makes us all tick. There's no need to take = someone else's opinion personally if they name a song you don't like!! = :-) For me, I can't really think of ANY Soundgarden song I really dislike. = But if there is one, it would probably come from Ultramega Ok, my least = favourite album..........maybe because it sounds like it was produced = without much technical help - all screechy and noisy.......... Carolyn the Melodic Fantasia It seems that no matter how young I am, I seem to still feel = older...Violent Femmes ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 2 Issue 255] ****************************************