From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Tuesday, 24 Sep 1996 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 01:56:44 EDT Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Tuesday, 24 Sep 1996 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: Articles Re: dont like, hate Re: and you've got nothing to say.... DOTU metal??? Re: dont like, hate unholy war... Brixton Superunknown Singles Re: List Idiot Re: dont like, hate Re: dont like, hate Ben's Bass RE: dont like, hate Re: Professor Jesus Freak Theme Songs just dont like Re: Shroom e-bow debate... RE: S. Life Book - Poster ok ok ok ok Re: reply to demon/deep6 Article comments... =) Re: ok ok ok ok the whole e-bow thing Re: Article comments... =) Re: Met Them random stuff Re:RAMBLINGS, COMPLIMENTS, AND CRITICISMS Chris Arrogant? Soundgarden Dream RE: ok ok ok ok Videos Re: dont like, hate like god's eyes in my headlights... Re: Professor Jesus Freak RE: Sg & Agriculrure Re: Professor Jesus Freak how can you buy or sell the sky... Re: ok ok ok ok Re: Chris/Layne duet type thing Fett at Brandeis Re: please get me off i am still waiting Searching for an intro . . . wasting time #14 goes to... circle of power TAbs Re: Superunknown Singles Re: Ben's Bass i speak... RE: like god's eyes in my headlights... Re: best b-side and best album Re: best SG line Re: Professor Jesus Freak Re: Chris/Layne duet type thing ------------------------------------------------------------ Subject: Articles From: seth First, I was just HTMLizing 5 new articles for the Web page, and came across this quote: "The sun is out, the sky is blue, and Chris Cornell is smiling like a Cheshire Cat who has just discovered it can lick its own testicles." How can you not want to read the articles after reading that? Second, those of you who read SPIN magazine probably noticed that in this month's Point Blank (letters), there are 4 responses to the Soundgarden cover story SPIN ran a couple of months ago. For those of you who don't read SPIN, here are the responses: - --------------------------------------------------------------------- When I first got a load of Soundgarden in 1989, I thought I was a really cool guy. Then the rest of the world found out about my grungy little secret, and, like many other pretentious bastards, I quickly dropped them from my favorite-band list. But after reading Mike Rubin's interview ["The Real Thing," July], I remembered why I liked those guys so much. Thanks for a great article and for ending my regressions. - Mark Cline via Internet Mike Rubin's Soundgarden article was indeed a genuinely accurate reflection of the band: It was just as slow and boring as their most recent album. Surviving a dry history of Seattle only to learn the names of Chris Cornell's dogs, I felt the same urge to take a big fat nap as I did when listening to Down On The Upside. - Sarah Habibi via Internet I sure wish Soundgarden would stop lying to convey whatever image they want at the moment. Chris Cornell used to swear up and down that he was straight, but now that Soundgarden is on the road with Metallica (once nicknamed Alcoholica), he's saying he's an alkie, too. And in how many interviews did they formerly claim, "We're not a metal band!" while their current album is nothing but metal? If they ever decide to go rap, they'll probably brag about being arrested for drive-by shootings and rape! - Lynne Falcone, Brooklyn, New York Chris Cornell and Kim Thayil may have gray hairs, but so do I, and I'm only 22. Soundgarden, like a fine wine, only get better with age. - April D. Peters, Butler, Kentucky - --------------------------------------------------------------------- There you have it, folks. My only comment is in reference to Soundgarden's current album being "nothing but metal": that's a strong statement, and songs like "Applebite" certainly disprove it. On the other hand, the guitar solo in "Rhinosaur" is about the most buttrockish, straight-ahead metal thing I've ever heard SG do. Not to go off on a tangent here, but there's far, far too much straight-ahead rocking out on DOTU anyway. This fast, punky side to Soundgarden is not the one I like, and the new slower-tempo songs are far too thin; I much prefer the sounds of Ultramega OK and Badmotorfinger (and much of Louder Than Love). It just makes it worse that the b-sides from the DOTU singles have also been fast rockers rather than slow mind-blowers. Yeah, maybe I'm living in the past, and the band has "matured" (whatever that means), and the band is finally doing what they want to do, but if that's the case, then ship me back to 1991 when they were immature. I mean, can you put on "Slaves & Bulldozers" or "Room A Thousand Years Wide" or "Beyond The Wheel" or "Flower" or "Toy Box" or "Gun" or "4th of July" or "Holy Water" or "Searching With My Good Eye Closed" or "Like Suicide" and then put on "No Attention" or "Never Named" or "Dusty" or "An Unkind" or "Rhinosaur" or "Pretty Noose" and not want to cry? Tangentially yours, seth ------------------------------ Subject: Re: dont like, hate From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) >is it possible for a list member to not like or even hate a recorded >soundgarden song. Personally i do not, but it would be interesting to >hear if anyone does, please give reasons to your hatred. Don't like Circle of Power. To much screaming with no control. It always sounded like a space needed filled on the CD and they did it for a lark. Jamie (Village Idiot) ------------------------------ From: Mercyhurst Prep Library Subject: Re: and you've got nothing to say.... Just me again w/ a few cents to add again. I want to thank Taylor for his excellent comments about what used to be indie is now mainstream! That was amazing, man, b/c a year ago I was going thru that same phase of trying to define stuff! What amazes me is that he got that our of Bortnik's flame to the list. I was stunned....and yet I do see where he's coming from as well. And like Taylor said, it would be plain childish to retaliate. I think this list is above all that negative stuff. Slightly non-Sg related.....ATTENTION TO ANY PJ FANS ON THIS LIST: A friend and I have decided to get rid of alot of our PJ stuff, just selling it for what we paid for it. Posted an ad in a PJ zine and got 2 buyers, so we're stuck w/ alot of stuff. Before I run an ad in Goldmine I thought I'd offer it to my Sg list family to see if there are any interested parties. Just email me privately for the addie. I hate to put this stuff in the garbage b/c someone out there might want the stuff! Back to Sg--this thought just crossed my mind--call it a mini-survey or something, but out of curiousity, how many members of the list have ever met Sg? Is anyone interested in hearing any past tales? The new ones made me curious! all fer now...ciao...deb ------------------------------ From: dbradsh@unity.ncsu.edu Subject: DOTU metal??? " "We're not a metal band!" while their current album is nothing but metal?" <----is this person referring to DOTU??? i would never consider this album metal...did he/she even listen to it i wonder... ******************************************************************************** Dee Dee Bradshaw-Autry "Be careful with me...I am fragile. Im a bitch babe...and Im on fire" Garbage http://www.infochase.com/ent/deedee/index.html "The shortest distance between two points may be a straight line, but the longest distance between them is `life'." SubG "Sleep tight for me...I'm gone..." Sound Garden ******************************************************************************** ------------------------------ From: Sachin Trivedi Subject: Re: dont like, hate On Mon, 23 Sep 1996, Jamesetta Simpson wrote: > >is it possible for a list member to not like or even hate a recorded > >soundgarden song. Personally i do not, but it would be interesting to > >hear if anyone does, please give reasons to your hatred. > > Don't like Circle of Power. To much screaming with no control. It always > sounded like a space needed filled on the CD and they did it for a lark. > > Jamie > (Village Idiot) > > Soundgarden songs I really don't like: Half Fopp Never Named Kyle Petty She Likes surprises Show Me Never the Machine Forever That's about all I think. Everything else is pretty much amazing. Sachin ------------------------------ From: "Luck's Last Match" Subject: unholy war... Eliza, yes, my copy of Supermainstream also has Unholy war fading in and out....that's ok, my voice doesn't fade when i scream along....Badmotorfinger hurts to scream along with...the whole way through anyway...all the b-sides are fun though, because no non SG fan thinks soundgarden does so many different songs...Did anyone else think Black Cat was the most annoying song? I used to think that when i first heard it, but now i love it, and i'm sure it annoys the rest of my suite...well, it'll grow on them ;) All you people seeing SG and even you who met them; you people are making me very jealous. -j "My sins are etched in stone, never to erase" -Soundgarden. ------------------------------ From: "R. Kingsnorth" Subject: Brixton OK...I dunno if anyone remembers me because I haven't been near a computer for about ten million years and I'm not actually subscribed to the list anymore, but I had some things to say......... 1. Thursday night!!! BRIXTON!!! HA!!!!! 2. Why the hell did I forget to take my wallet????? I missed out on getting one of those ace dinosaur t-shirts!!!! BOLLOCKS!!!! Beck (still buzzing) ------------------------------ From: Seth Ward Subject: Superunknown Singles Greetings and Salutations, Does anyone know for sure how to tell which SU singles go into the collectors box? So far I've got 8 or 9, but the little black box only fits 6. Also, if any of you have made any mix tapes with just SG songs (for your car or whatever) that you are particularly happy with, E-mail me privately with a song list...please...thank you. I am having trouble deciding. Finally, I say enough quibbling about who's more alternative than who. I got enough of that in high school to last a decade. Mr. Bortnick has gotten more attention than he deserves. Besides, even though I've only been on this list for a month or so, everything I've read so far has been important or at least mildly interesting, so what else matters? Whether you dig Green River, Green Day, or even Green Jelly (god save us) we are all *one nation under Soundgarden*, and that is that. (How's that for a quote, huh?) Enough for now A Different Seth ------------------------------ From: oponfam@cnsnet.com Subject: Re: List Idiot You wrote: > Listen, right now I seem to be in a minority, but I say leave the guy alone. > He does have a right to his own opinion, this IS still a free country, I > think. There are times when the list bugs me and all I do is find the > delete key. So just ignore him, chalk it up to experience and all that. Is > that fair enough? Flaming him w/ multiple messages is only going to tell > him that this list IS a bunch of phonies and whatever else he said. Ya > gotta be like Sg and let it roll off your back, doncha think? I agree. Why let such an idiot get you so upset. I didn't even finish reading his original post - I didn't like what I did read, so I just moved on. He's not worth it. And besides, I agree that responding with multiple messages, etc. just makes us look shallow, which I know we aren't. > I'm sure, as > usual, this message will fall on deaf ears, since no one ever replies or > picks up on stuff I say, but at least I've had my say for the month. I know the feeling deb. But rest assured, some of us dutifully read ALL the posts (especially those from people we respect, like you). I'm so behind on my digests that I haven't been responding to anything. Chin up and all. Kathie ------------------------------ From: mukor rules all galaxies Subject: Re: dont like, hate On Mon, 23 Sep 1996, SCOTT MICHAEL MORROW wrote: > is it possible for a list member to not like or even hate a recorded > soundgarden song. Personally i do not, but it would be interesting to > hear if anyone does, please give reasons to your hatred. > As SG are one of my favourite bands, I never thought there would ever be a Soundgarden song I did not like, but "Half" from Superunknown has to be (IMHO) the worst song they have ever ewritten. I do not know how anybody could possibly like it. It sounds like Indian resturant background music. - -me ------------------------------ From: new wave biscuit Subject: Re: dont like, hate On Mon, 23 Sep 1996, Aleko wrote: > Well i don't like I awake and the one Hiro sings Circle of Power (i > think). Hate is too strong a word to use really, i hate Billy Ray Cyrus' > music but i could never hate any Soundgarden songs. Well i could > but i don't see it ever happening. "Circle.." is cool and "I Awake" is one of the best songs on LtL. - -me ------------------------------ From: Paul_Faraguna@dbna.com (Paul Faraguna) Subject: Ben's Bass Greetings, Went to the local music store today and was thumbing through a copy of the DOTU guitar and voice sheet music booklet. The first couple of pages were pictures of the guys in the studio; and judging by the length of Chris's hair, I'd say that the pics were from the DOTU sessions, but I digress. Anyway, in these pics, Ben is playing a Hoffner Bass. The very same, violin-shaped, bass guitar played by Paul McCartney. Being a major Beatles fan from wwwway back, I was very pleasantly surprised. I've been a SG fan for years, and now I have an added reason to like them. Does anybody know if Ben or any of the other lads has ever expressed any appreciation for, or inspiration by, the Fab Four? Maybe he just likes the sound of it, or maybe it's more than that. Also, can it be assumed that much of the bass work on DOTU is done on that Hoffner bass? Paul ------------------------------ From: Monnica Lewis Subject: RE: dont like, hate Well, I wouldn't say that I hate some songs but I do get tired of the songs that get a lot of airplay, ie Black Hole Sun, Burden in My Hand etc. MTV plays the hell out of stuff and the local "new rock alternative" station X103 certainly plays stuff too much. In a way, I'm glad that Soundgarden is not one of X103's "favored children" like say the Smashing Pumpkins or Alannis because I'm sure I would hate them by now. (Either that or change to a country station). You can get too much of a good thing. ---------- From: SCOTT MICHAEL MORROW To: somms Subject: dont like, hate Date: Monday, September 23, 1996 3:44PM is it possible for a list member to not like or even hate a recorded soundgarden song. Personally i do not, but it would be interesting to hear if anyone does, please give reasons to your hatred. smmorrow@deakin.edu.au ------------------------------ From: Monnica Lewis Subject: Re: Professor Jesus Freak You're ignorant. ---------- From: Joe Cennamo To: Scroggin Cc: somms@MIT.EDU Subject: Re: Professor Jesus Freak Date: Sunday, September 22, 1996 8:05PM When I heard 2 pak was dead I put a big smile on face. best news that I had heard all day. Burn in hell 2 pak. joec ------------------------------ From: marcm Subject: Theme Songs During the UF-UT game this last weekend, it occurred to me that "Zero Chance" may be a better song for Tenessee than "Rocky Top." Just kidding. Send all flames to marcm@grove.ufl.edu, and not the list. I don't want to make anyone angry. i'm just in a really good mood. Marc p.s. If you don't understand this, just ignore it. Does Peyton Manning look like a bitch? Then why are you letting the UF Defensive line fuck him like a bitch? -half time in the UT locker room during the UF-UT game ------------------------------ Subject: just dont like From: Ben Timberlake >Half >Fopp >Never Named >Kyle Petty >She Likes surprises >Show Me >Never the Machine Forever Hm. I really like "half". It's one of my favorite sg songs. I also really like KP, SLS and Show Me. I sometimes skip "room a thousand years wide" but it's grown on me. I also occasionaly skip "reach down" on ToTD, but it has also become more interesting, esp. that orgasmic guitar solo. I never skip it, but "tighter and tighter" would be down there on my list. I guess I'm not a big fan of the slow, long songs. I suppose it's evidence of my mtv, fast-clip, no-attention-span mind. Then again, I can listen to "il trovatore" straight through without moving. -- Ben Ben Timberlake Why doesn't anyone Northwestern University believe in loneliness? Medill School of Journalism ***btimlake@nwu.edu*** -30- http://pubweb.acns.nwu.edu/~bft718 "Sure, sure. The music plays, the wheel turns . . . . . . and our spin ain't over yet." -- Paul Newman, "The Hudsucker Proxy" ------------------------------ From: ShRooMGrLz@aol.com Subject: Re: Shroom >Shroom- you're not dead, are you? Haven't heard from the >loudest SOMMS member in a while. I must be the quietist. Nope, not dead. I've just been really busy licking pictures of Chris, that's all. Oh yeah, and working. My life is too exciting, let me tell you. Well, at least there's the Seattle trip and HATER show in October to look forward to. =))) Ummm... as to hating SG's music... nope, don't hate any of it. Even "Circle of Power" (which seems to be alot of people's least fave SG song) isn't hateable. Is hateable a word? Oh well... I'm running on a caffeine buzz right now, so I might now be all that coherent. I think my second least favorite SG song would be "Karaoke." Ack... AAAAUUUUUGGHHH!!! I just realized that I haven't wished Ben a happy birthday yet!! Benmeister... a most happy belated birthday to you!!!!!!!!! Damn me straight to hell for forgetting it. Jeez... he's a youngster compared to the rest of the guys, isn't he? ;-) JUST KIDDING!!!! Man, I'm tired. I just want to add one more thing before I go back to work. Ok, two more things. Yes, I STILL haven't caught up on my correspondence, so if you haven't heard from me in the past couple of weeks, don't worry... I haven't forgotten about you. I'll be writing SOON, I promise. Ok, and as to the last thing... Dena and I were discussing this on the phone the other night... wouldn't it be strange to see someone other than Chris on the cover of a bootleg? Every SG boot that there is, they either have all of SG, or else just Chris. It would really shock the hell out of me to come across a boot with just Ben, Kim or Matt on the cover, y'know? Why am I writing this? I don't know. Caffeine must be wearing off. Love me, bye-bye... Shroom Red Haired Devil-Hootchie, Proud member of the Kim Thayil Mercenary Squad, and Seattle-bound-obsessed-SOMMS-psycho (See you in October, Chris and Matt!!!) A re-run, 'cuz I'm too tired to think up new stuff: "Hey!! You're that Shroom girl, aren't you?!?!? How'd you get in my room? SUSAN, HELP ME!!! Oh wait, I forgot... she's out of town on business!! What are you doing with those handcuffs, Shroom?!? What's with the whipped cream??!? Oh my God... CALL THE POLICE!!!!!!!" ~ Chris Cornell (Words not necessarily said in that order...) <~~~ my disclaimer ------------------------------ From: jgrotelu@herbie.unl.edu (grote) Subject: e-bow debate... hey all... in regards to the discussion about thayil using an e-bow on black hole sun... i'm assuming the intro is the part in question...it's my understanding that kim played through a leslie cabinet (a cool 60s-type cabinet effect with a big whirling propeller-thing) for all of the "clean" parts in the song...and it sounds as if he's doing some funky stuff with the leslie on the intro. i don't know. i guess it could be an e-bow, but i can't see kim using one of those things. has anyone ever used an e-bow before? my friend brought one over a few months ago while i was jamming in our basement and let me try it out. it's kind of a cool effect, but it's like using a phaser or a massive delay or anything like that...it gets old and it has very limited uses. plus i felt like some techno-geek U2-type guitar nerd while I was using it. I wanked around with it a little then shrugged my shoulders, tossed it aside, yelled at my drummer with a four-count and busted into "beat on the brat" by the ramones. (i knew joey and tommy wouldn't approve of any modern technology whatsoever in a ramones cover tune...of course, they also wouldn't approve of anything in excess of three chords, but that's another issue... :) ) and so ended my e-bow experience... :) later... - -- ######################################################################## # GROTE!!!!! "I don't remember half the time # # If I'm hiding or I'm lost # # jgrotelu@herbie.unl.edu But I'm on my way....." -Chris Cornell # ######################################################################## ------------------------------ From: "Phelan, Kate" Subject: RE: S. Life Book - Poster I would like to thank everyone who expressed interest in receiving this poster. I had to do the random pick thing, the way the giveaways had been done, and it will go to: Never_Named So please email me privately with your mailing address, and you shall receive. BTW, I had to take the train to Milwaukee over the weekend, and finally got to use my personal CD player. I brought BMF, SU, and DOTU, and the worst sound quality has to go to Superunknown. I wish to GOD it was produced clearer; it was almost painful to hear "mailman" with all the static on CC's voice, when he screams "riding....all the way", just was frustrating. But the music makes the trip go so fast... kate ------------------------------ From: Scroggin Subject: ok ok ok ok no im not a racist , i mearly detest all rap stars and wish they were dead white, black , hispanic, blue, green now as for this joe guy who keeps posting all of his KKK propaganda , go get a life . - -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Cause, fear is strong, & loves for everyone who isn't me." - Chris Cornell ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ From: "Paul" Subject: Re: reply to demon/deep6 >> Deep Six album >> >> if youre referring to the first released SG recording put out on CZ >> records, its out of print. i did some digging about 3 years ago and came >> up empty. no help from CZ records and no help from a record store that >> can usually find anything. im sure a copy of that is worth its weight in >> gold. > >The original vinyl release is out of print, but it was re-released on >CD in 1994 as a joint project of C/Z and A&M. You should be able to >find the CD pretty easily. > >seth That is what I had thought too, but I have not been able to find the CD anywhere. If anyone knows where to get the CD, please tell me. Thanks, - -paul ------------------------------ From: ShRooMGrLz@aol.com Subject: Article comments... =) Just read through a few of the new articles on the page. Damn... I know that alot of people don't like Kerrang, but I personally think they write some of the BEST and most entertaining articles out there. If I were talented enough to write for a living... I'd want to do stuff like Kerrang puts out. > Q: Last time you danced in a club? >CC: That would be on the Australian 'Big Day Out' tour. We went to a >bar and the highly effeminate Urge Overkill were being very critical of >the fact that we were too macho to dance. But then as soon as we got >up and started dancing, they started making fun of us. I think they had >that in mind all along. Heheheh... can you picture Chris and Kim out on the dance floor? That reminds me of that MTV interview with them where they were showing Tabitha Sorren around Seattle. Standing out front of one of the clubs, Chris was talking about it, and Matt, Kim and Ben were acting out a club scene behind him. Matt was getting down (disco dancing), and Ben was lighting Kim's cigarette. Kim..."What's YOUR sign?" Heheheh... the closest I've seen Chris come to dancing was on a tape of SG from '87, methinks? They did Fopp, and Chris pulls his shirt off and is kinda bouncing around/dancing across the stage. Funneeeee!!! AAAUUGGGHH!! I love it! He looks SO silly, it's great!! >Last time you wanted something you couldn't have? >CC: I didn't want to wake up this morning, but I had to. Otherwise, >being a rich and successful rock star, I can have anything I want. >World peace? I can have that, but I have to be a politician first and >get everyone to believe my rhetoric. If all the policians in the world >got stoned and mellow, they'd stop bombing each other and start >buying pastries and candy. God, I love him. He might be getting spoiled (or should I say MORE spoiled)... but at least he's usually honest, and he's not as hypocritcal as alot of people. Heheheh... I say this after I flamed him a couple months ago for being a hypocrite. Go me... >Last time you did something embarrassing onstage? >CC: It's usually something I say. You say something that you think >people will remember or think is cool, and they just look at you like, >'Idiot, just play a song!'. Heheheh... or from the hootchie brigade..."Idiot, just take off your shirt!" ;) I've never really heard Chris say anything stupid onstage... has anyone else? It kinda surprises me to hear him admit to trying to say something that he thinks people will remember or think cool, though. >How long can you last? >CC: Two litres or 15 minutes. I could comment on this... but I think you people already know basically what I'd say. Heheheh... ;) >The sun is out, the sky is blue, and Chris Cornell is smiling like a >Cheshire Cat who has just discovered it can lick its own testicles. You're right, Seth... this is a good one. Heheheh... see what I mean about Kerrang?!? God, I love that magazine... >When grounded, he'd watch Popeye or cool futuristic Japanese >cartoons like Gigantor and Speed Racer and dream of being a >professional American footballer. Unfortunately, he knew that he >was too small and, in reality, too crap to reach the top playing >gridiron. But there had to be something better than this... Chris wanted to be a pro football player?!?!? I didn't know that!! AAAUUGGHHH!!!! God, I'm glad he didn't! I can't imagine what my world would be like without SG's music. Yeah, that sounds kinda pathetic... but I really don't care. SG is a huge part of my life, and it gives me the willies to think of life without them. I love them to death. Heheheh... now if THAT isn't a psycho comment... >He figured that some day a big band would roll into Seattle, take one >look at his flamboyant style, and promptly whisk him off to indulge in >all the sex, drugs and rock'n'roll his young body could handle. Heheheh... shut up, Shroom. >"People hated us in the beginning," Chris laughs. "I'd come on stage >with no shirt on, whipping my hair around and generally being a sweaty >young rock guy. I used to have about 50 ribbons in my hair, which didn't >exactly please the jocks in the audience. They were probably worried >because they found me a little too attractive." Ha! Can you really BLAME them?!? "Sweaty young rock guy..." Chris, you are such a poet! ;) I love it when people describe Chris. The following is my all time FAVORITE description of Chris (it came from Seconds magazine): >Frontman Chris Cornell is the musical icon/sex symbol that defines >post-Alternative Pop Culture - supercool to male fans and dreamy to the >women, especially back in the day when he was the longhaired, brooding, >bare-chested boy toy with the Doc Martens and the droopy shorts. I WOULD type up that article for the page, but even though I love the way the writer described Chris... he spoke VERY derogatorily of Andy Wood. I HATE it when people do that, and I e-mailed the shit out of the guy... but SURPRISE!!! I got no response. Fucking idiot. Anyway... >But his fame has engendered curious side-effects. Where once the >streets of LA were peopled by Axl Rose lookalikes, these days you >can't spit without hitting a Chris Cornell wannabe. The Soundgarden >singer finds this a little unnerving. Heheheh... and the hootchies find it quite intriguing. I've never been to California, but methinks I'm about due for a visit. Anyone wanna join me? ;) >HAVE YOU EVER BEEN STALKED BY FANS, OR DO PEOPLE HANG >AROUND OUTSIDE YOUR HOUSE? >"Not as far as I know. I'm sure there is, but nobody comes knocking. If >I was a 15 year old kid and I lived in Seattle and knew where Ben Shepherd >lived, I wouldn't fucking knock on his door, I'd be afraid. If I didn't know him, >he seems like someone who would put a shotgun in my mouth if I was a >stranger. Heheheh... that's true. Ben does come across like that. Stalked by fans? Ummmm... heheheh... SHUT UP ALREADY, SHROOM!!!!! You're gonna get yourself in trouble again. Ummm... ok. Heheheh... Shroom Red Haired Devil-Hootchie, Proud member of the Kim Thayil Mercenary Squad, and Seattle-bound-obsessed-SOMMS-psycho (See you in October, Chris and Matt!!!) "Shroom, I know that you're not stalking me. You just want me to autograph your favorite picture of me. Damn, I look sexy in this picture! But I always look sexy, so that's no surprise. Here, I'll sign it right across my super-ultra-gorgeous half naked body. Ummmm... why is this picture wet?" ~ Chris Cornell (Words not necessarily said in that order...) <~~~ my disclaimer ------------------------------ From: Moonsta693@aol.com Subject: Re: ok ok ok ok Kay......this is what I mean. We are all here for one reason. to support each other with the same common bond. (forgive me while I borrow this quote:) "SOMMS.....ONE NATION UNDER SOUNDGARDEN!" When we joined, we weren't asked to check off a box about what our background is. WHO THE HELL CARES!!!! So, no one has any idea on wht the hell anyone looks like, and I think we should just not care! One reason is why we are all together...keep it that way! A flower in the garden of sound, the original preety noose ------------------------------ From: overfloater@thenexus.com Subject: the whole e-bow thing i guess there are some transcriptions of Loud Love where it says to use an E-bow, but Kim was asked about that in an interview and he says that he did no such thing and "I've never even SEEN an E-bow." He does the Loud Love thing by getting feedback or something and then dragging his finger up the string or some weird shit :> I don't know exactly :> So I don't know where the hell he uses an E-bow but he didnt use one on anything before or including Superunknown.. so maybe the incorrect Loud Love transcriptions led to this whole Kim Thayil e-bow thing... :> ------------------------------ From: Moonsta693@aol.com Subject: Re: Article comments... =) 15 min. Hehe, they should have asked Susan.....BUt anyway I think that was beautiful....really. All I can picture now is how those guys would get up and dance. I'd just laugh my head off. Kay to all those gals out there....anyone ever date a C.C. look-alike? I am....Dave. I sware, he's not trying to be, but, since he cut his hair, he looks exactly like Chris without the goatee! The world(my world especially)would come to an end if there wasn't Soundgarden. But Chris wanting to be a football player? Makes me want to whip out my blue and white cheerleading skirt! Chris, Chris, he's our man, if he can't do it, know one can! well, ya know. I can't stalk anyone...not only being so far away for Seattle, but I couldn't.....but I am 15, so that counts for somethin'! What else...oh ya....the thing is that the man is my inspiration. As a fellow poet.....I think he is pure poetry when he speaks. It's true. He puts words that match my life situations. Like Preety Noose. but that's a long story. November is not too far away, and Roseland is going to be very hot and sweaty...so most likely he has to go shirtless.....any advice to keep a 17 year old girl off of him?(Rachel..love ya dear!) A flower in a garden of sound, The original preety noose ------------------------------ From: oponfam@cnsnet.com Subject: Re: Met Them What a great story! Man are you lucky. Your description of the meeting was so cool, just like a bunch of regular guys. What a trip to walk in and see Chris sprawled on a couch - I got a chill just reading it, I can imagine what it must have been like to actually be there! Thanks so much for sharing an experience most of us will only be able to dream of. Kathie ------------------------------ From: SkyVista96@aol.com Subject: random stuff Hey everyone. I just wanted to ramble about some stuff, so this post has absolutely no order or thought. First of all, if you will recall, I requested your opinions on SG in ag. Well, I went with BIMH. Just 'cause it's fairly recent and it's not too loud, or at least I thought. My teacher ended up letting me listen to the whole tape in class. I don't know what his problem was. I had Seasons on this tape and when it came on he started wincing as if in pain! And that is one of the quietest songs on the tape. Oh, well. He's a loser anyway so why try to figure him out. Next subject- SNL. I saw it AGAIN on Saturday. Has Chris cut his hair since then? I never noticed it before, but with his hair that length and that style, it made his head look way too big for his body. I know I'm stupid, but that's the first thing I thought of when they switched to those side shots. Last subject (I think)- I got my OnSat (satellite mag. kinda like TV guide) last week for the week of Sept 30-Oct 6. The movie "Singles" is supposed to be on October 3 on Cinemax. It's the first time I have seen it listed for cable and I've never seen the movie so I was happy. OK, this is the last one- I am now known as the MUSIC FREAK of my class. This is what I am refered to in all but one of my classes. I dunno about this title. SG freak maybe, but "music" covers a lot of territory and I don't know shit about country or rap. Oh, well. I wonder if there is an award for this or something. Goodbye now Amber P.S. Shroom- glad to hear your not dead. I was wondering. ------------------------------ From: mshaw@lib.occ.cccd.edu (Misty Shaw) Subject: Re:RAMBLINGS, COMPLIMENTS, AND CRITICISMS This is my very first time here. I got a whole bunch of e-mail from SOMMS that I found interesting to talk about To those in Europe who saw Soundgarden, you excite me from each word you type. You see, I'm way across the ocean in Southern California, and I am desperately waiting for Soundgarden to announce tour dates for Los Angeles and maybe some Orange County dates. In L.A., I don't think Soundgarden is as popular as Smashing Pumpkins, but that would be a good thing, wouldn't it? That means I would have a better chance of getting tickets! To all of you on the eastern coast of the United States who can't get tickets, I feel bad for you. Mucho sympathy. Did anyone see the rerun of Saturday Night Live? Not only was Soundgarden the guest musical perfomers, but Jim Carrey was also a special guest. I'm not a HUGE Carrey fan, but his skits were hilarious!! To Emily, if your reading this: I have some Soundgarden song suggestions for you. I love it when Soundgarden ROCKS, but since you're dealing with your predominately "country music" crowd, so maybe you should play Chris's "Seasons". Try mellow songs from Superunknown, Badmotorfinger, or Down On The Upside. I would give you more song titles, but I'm not at home right now...sorry! To Natalie: I can't believe you would even mention ALANIS MORRISETTE in SOMMS. I don't mind you liking other bands, but I really CAN'T understand what some people actually like Alanis. Okay, Mr. Bortnik, Oasis, Bush, And STP do suck, but we people of SOMMS do have the right to like other bands. Soundgarden is excellent, but we can't talk about Soundgarden all the time. Every band that you listed I know about, though. That's simply because I read all sorts of information and live in a city where underground music, indie bands, and non-popular bands are known(the city of Rodney on the Roq!) Get your stuff straight before you diss us, man! Even though I'm not a 2Pac fan, I don't think he should be wished dead.(That's like me wishing Alanis Morisette dead.) Hey, everyone's entitled to their comments of the death of 2Pac. Just expressing my opinion! HAPPY BIRTDAY TO BEN(IS HE REALLY HAPPY ABOUT GETTING OLDER?) RoseeMisst - -- Orange Coast College Costa Mesa California ------------------------------ From: oponfam@cnsnet.com Subject: Chris Arrogant? Overfloater wrote: > also, i was hanging otu with a friend of mine last night (who dont like > sg, but respects the fact that I do at least) and he said that he has an > interview with chris cornell on tape and that chris seems arrogant. . what do you think? :> I've always considered Chris to have an almost "majestic" way of carrying himself, which could be perceived as arrogance, but I don't think it is. I think he has this great tall body that he has learned to use well. In every interview I've seen with Chris he always seems really humble to me. Sometimes shyness and/or being introverted is seen by people as being arrogant. I know what you mean, though. Its hard to be objective about someone you feel so strongly for (this is coming from someone who once told shroom I couldn't vote to convict Chris if I was on a jury and knew he was guilty). So I guess only those of us who get lucky enough to actually meet him (how about it Gemma?) will know for sure. Kathie ------------------------------ From: oponfam@cnsnet.com Subject: Soundgarden Dream Its me again. Sorry for so many posts, but I'm finally catching up on my digests and I'm on a posting frenzy. I finally had another Soundgarden dream last night. Unfortunately I didn't jump up and write it down, so this won't be as detailed as some of your dreams have been, but I thought it was cool anyway. A bunch of us sommsters were staying in a hotel across the street from a place Soundgarden was playing. It was kind of like a dorm situation and we were all hanging out, looking forward to the concert. When I walked into the venue it was set up where there were chairs all the way up to the stage (no place to mosh, awww) and in the front row I found Caryn. Now this is weird, because I've never met Caryn and don't even know what she looks like, but in my dream it was Caryn (I also met Ben Timberlake in the dream, who I've also never seen). Anyway, when the show started we were right up there. Chris came to the edge of the stage as he was singing and crouched down, gripping the edge of the stage with one hand. I couldn't resist - he was just too close - I reached out and touched his hand. And he seemed to get pissed! I have conveniently blocked out the horrible details, but I think he said or did something rude. I must have looked so devastated, though, that during a break I was called over to the side of the stage and guess who was there - Chris. He said he was sorry and asked if I was with the mailing list (don't ask me, it was a dream) and I said yeah, so we all got to go backstage after the show. I don't remember any more details; I'm just glad to have had a Soundgarden dream again - its been a long time. Kathie ------------------------------ From: Monnica Lewis Subject: RE: ok ok ok ok why exactly do you hate all rap stars? have they done something to you personally? did they all kick your dog or kill your mother? It's ok to not like or even hate the music. You might not like the rap star as an individual based on what you know of them but, to wish them dead simply based on what they do for a living?! That's biggoted buddy. I'll admit, I don't like what 2Pac stood for or what he had to say because he did nothing but tear down black people and further the myth that we are all gang bangers, or junkies or hos. (I'm black by the way.) I think his music was destructive and did more to make things harder for people like myself rather than "speak for me or represent my life". But I didn't sit around saying "boy, I'm glad he's dead". Actually, I believe I remember an instance when Chris or Kim or somebody in SG gave a positive mention about a couple of rap acts. And I definitely remember Chris saying he liked the work of En Vogue (eventhough they aren't rap they certainly aren't rock). I sure hope SG is not as biggoted and narrowminded and meanspirited as some of their fans seem to be. PS I know there was'nt much SG content there but I just had to say something. Please keep me on the list Now, can we talk about something else? :-) ---------- From: Scroggin To: somms@MIT.EDU Subject: ok ok ok ok Date: Monday, September 23, 1996 4:52PM no im not a racist , i mearly detest all rap stars and wish they were dead white, black , hispanic, blue, green now as for this joe guy who keeps posting all of his KKK propaganda , go get a life . -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Cause, fear is strong, & loves for everyone who isn't me." - Chris Cornell ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ From: "Paul" Subject: Videos This weekend I got to see a Soundgarden video I had never seen before. One of my friends had come over and we were watching a skate vid compilation that one of his cousins had made for him a while ago. This cousin is 21 ad had some old stuff on it. Then at the end to fill up space he had put in several music videos including Rusty Cage, JCP and LOUD LOVE! I had thought it was cool that he had those BMF vids, but I had already seen those. But I was thrilled to see Loud Love on it because I had never seen it in my whole life. I will stop now. Paul ------------------------------ From: alisa brozena Subject: Re: dont like, hate I was just wondering if anyone was attending the show at Roseland in NYC on November 15? If so send me a line, maybe we can meet at the show. lee ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: like god's eyes in my headlights... On Mon, 23 Sep 1996, Paul Faraguna wrote: > Does anybody know if Ben or any of the other lads has ever expressed > any appreciation for, or inspiration by, the Fab Four? Maybe he just > likes the sound of it, or maybe it's more than that. Also, can it be I'm not sure if anyone in the band has actually said out loud that they admire the beatles as musicians, but my memory is patchy at best. the connection was, however, mentioned to kim by some writer, who asked about the similarities between butow and a beatles song called so sad (or something like that). I agree that the vocal effects make me think john lennon, but I don't know about lyrical similarities. in the end, though, I think it would be difficult for just about any contemporary musician to *not* be influenced by the beatles. ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide - words by kim thayil ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Joe Cennamo Subject: Re: Professor Jesus Freak On Sun, 22 Sep 1996, GRRL NIKI FREER wrote: > OKay, before we all flame this bastard Joe C-something, let's just > remember that he's probably some dork 12 year old desperate for > attention. > > mind riot > > ____ > "It's a feeling everyone gets. Yr all happy with yr life, > everything's going well, things are exciting-- when all of a sudden > you realize yr unhappy in the extreme, to the point of being really, > really scared. There's no particular event you can pin the feeling > down to, it's just that you realize one day that everything in yr > life is FUCKED!" > chris cornell Actually I am 15, I have plenty of friends. Dork huh, All I know is that when I call this list every couple of days I have about 1000 messages in my mail box mostly from the same people. They would appear to be the ones with no life. I actually am A good guy, I play drums and guitar.My favorite band is soundgarden, and I listen to them constantly. I think that they are the coolest band ever. Matt is the best drummer I have ever heard, I don't iknow how he does it, it's amazing! I saw soundgarden play at lolla and loved it, I had a good laugh making fun of the mettalica crowd. So if you want to flame me cool, but I am one of you like it are not. joec ------------------------------ From: "Joseph E \"Gene\" Candelaria" Subject: RE: Sg & Agriculrure I have a tape of Johnny Cash doing "Rusty Cage". I think it would be cool to play the BMF version of "Rusty Cage", then the Johnny Cash version, and then the Motorvision version. This would definately get some of them good ol' boys 'n' girls back on the true path. If'n you'd like, I could mosey a copy to ya'll. If'n you like... > So now I'm trying to think of ONE SG song > that people who are usually country freaks would actually listen to the whole > way through. - -- ; > Joseph E. "Gene" Candelaria http://www.inland.net/~sunishun He who recieves a prophet because he is a prophet Will recieve the prophet's reward He who recieves a righteous man because he is a righteous man Will recieve a righteous man's reward (a year's subscription to Superman Comics) -----Derrick Bostrom My place in time is a big nada history. But, my place in time with you is shown symbolically. -----Mike Watt ------------------------------ From: Joe Cennamo Subject: Re: Professor Jesus Freak On Mon, 23 Sep 1996, Monnica Lewis wrote: > > You're ignorant. > ---------- > From: Joe Cennamo > To: Scroggin > Cc: somms@MIT.EDU > Subject: Re: Professor Jesus Freak > Date: Sunday, September 22, 1996 8:05PM > > When I heard 2 pak was dead I put a big smile on face. best news that I > had heard all day. Burn in hell 2 pak. > > joec > > > > > please tell me how I am ignorant. It is not racist to hate a style of music. And I was kidding. joec ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: how can you buy or sell the sky... On Mon, 23 Sep 1996, grote wrote: > i'm assuming the intro is the part in question...it's my understanding > that kim played through a leslie cabinet (a cool 60s-type cabinet > effect with a big whirling propeller-thing) for all of the "clean" > parts in the song...and it sounds as if he's doing some funky stuff I pretty certain that it isn't kim playing the intro to black hole sun. in "guitar world" of may 1994 there is an interview/guitar lesson with kim, and he says that there was no way he was going to play the intro because it (the guitar phrase through the leslie, I assume) sounded too dinky, which would leave him with only the chorus guitar part. in the end the intro must have been played by chris, which makes the bhs clip a bit of a sham :) ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide - words by kim thayil ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Joe Cennamo Subject: Re: ok ok ok ok On Mon, 23 Sep 1996, Scroggin wrote: > no im not a racist , i mearly detest all rap stars and wish they were > dead white, black , hispanic, blue, green > > now as for this joe guy who keeps posting all of his KKK propaganda , > go get a life . > -- > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > "Cause, fear is strong, & loves for > everyone who isn't me." - Chris Cornell > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ kkk propaganda, huh? Did you happon to read my message? I just said I was happy that he was dead, and that he had got what he deserved. I was talking about rap not black people. The kkk would probably kill me too, If you could take a look at me you would see that. Tell me what kkk propaganda I ever said. I would like to know. IF you think I like the kkk, look at my last name, and then think about what the kkk would do to me. joec ------------------------------ From: Sachin Trivedi Subject: Re: Chris/Layne duet type thing On Tue, 24 Sep 1996, Jody wrote: > HEY! > Does anyone know about a song called "Right Turn"? A friend that's no > longer a friend taped a copy of it for me and it's supposed to be Chris > singing with Layne Staley. I'm not sure if it's with Alice In Chains or > with SG but I'd like to know a little more about this song if anyone > knows about it. > Later, Jody > The song Right Turn is on the Alice In Chains EP called SAP. It has Layne Staley, Chris Cornell and Mark Arm(of mudhoney) singing on it. It is an amazing song. I especially like the way Chris' vocal completely blow away Layne's and Mark's and the end of the song. It's listed as being performed by Alice Mudgarden. Hope that helps. Sachin ------------------------------ From: Fett81@aol.com Subject: Fett at Brandeis Howdy! Oh yeah!!! Waited in line for two hours outside of Tower Records, But I got them!! If anyone else is going, drop me a line, and maybe I'll see you there! -Fett ------------------------------ From: Michael Bortnik Subject: Re: please get me off i am still waiting On Sun, 22 Sep 1996, Cornell wrote: > Michael Bortnik wrote: > > > > listen, all of you jerks diversity in music is great but not when phonie > > hack bads who rip off the hard work some bands put forth! how the hell > > can say you are a real sg fan and listen to stp who exploited them for > > all they are worth. how many of u even know who green river is or > > mudhoney,the melvins a very small majority, but you all like bush. fuck > > you! diversity, you don't know shit about it! how many of you know blues > > explosion or sebadoh or hovercraft or sonic youth or helium or jesus and > > mary chain? huh skrew off go listen to korn and oasis, hum along to bush > > and siverchair, learn all the lyrics to better than ezra and stp. but > > don't for a second consider your self a sg fan! now please get me off the > > list! you all ran out and bought superunkown and now you're sg fans, well > > my ass! > > > > Well, it looks like you are the God of music once again. Forgive us. > What musical instrument do you play? Do you play one? If you did, > I don't think you'd have this goddamn attitude. If you recall, > way back in Scr Life days, SG wasn't exactly a multitude of swirling > sound. They were a power chord playing, 4/4 timin' rock band. Sure, > they kicked ass, but they got WAY better. > And we know who Green River and Mudhoney are, but what the hell do they > have to do with Soundgarden, besides the fact that they all come from > SEattle? Green River broke up, members become MlB, then Wood died, > then some members became PJ. Wow. There's nothing of Soundgarden in > there, huh? Unless, of course, you're trying to say that SEattle is > the only place where good music comes from. That's a pretty elitest > thing to say. I guess everyone who has a band, but doesn't live in > Seattle should quit according to you. > I think you should try to remember that music is based on opinion. I > don't remember a survey being taken among the list of "who likes bush". > I don't think that really matters when it comes to Soundgarden. Maybe > you're just bitter because the best sonic youth can do is make a bunch > of fucking noise. I wonder if they ever check to see if their strings > are in tune. > And yes, I wouldn't doubt that some of us became fans post-Superunknown. > But most of these people probably went out and bought Ultramega OK, LtL > and BmF very soon after. I'm willing to bet that these people hunt down > rare vinyl pressings such as HIV Baby with a passion. These people > are not lesser fans than anyone just because they discovered Soundgarden > later on in their careers. Maybe I'm not such a big Led Zeppelin fan > because they broke up when I was 2, and I only started to buy their > albums when I was 11. In this idiotic assesment, you've attempted > to prove that you only you are a true Soundgarden fan, but in truth > you've proved that you are an ignorant moron. > Thank you I'm done. > Gregg > > ps don't bother replying. We're all stupider for having listened to you > the first time. > > pps I have satanoscillatemymetallicsonatas. do you? > -- > > "Fall into single file line" -- S. Weiland > > HEAVY ROTATION-"Rubberneck" toadies > "Pretty Hate Machine" nine inch nails > ______________________________________________________ > | | > | O V E R S O U L | > |______________________________________________________| > D E M O -- due to be completed mid-October > hey dick i got somms now fuck off ------------------------------ From: The Guitarist-2001 Subject: Searching for an intro . . . Question (yet another!): Those of you who have seen SG live, and have seen them perform Searching with My Good Eye Closed, I was wondering (as someone who hasn't) - Do they play the intro? Or do they just go straight into the verse? Yes, it's the ducks again . . . The Guitarist-2001 "The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist" - The Usual Suspects http://members.aol.com/dczoner - Soundgarden=band of the month! (not my page...friend's...w/ soon-to-be a little help from me...any suggestions for a guitar page?) ------------------------------ From: spierce@mpls.k12.mn.us (Sandy Pierce) Subject: wasting time i'm sorry to bring this up cuz i'm sure you all are sick of hearing about people like this, but i have to say i am very offended by the guy who is wishing death on rap artists. if someone were to say that they wanted someone in soundgarden to die i would be very upset, so , being a fan of a variety of music, i feel bad to be in the presence of someone who so easily can write about wanting another person to die... not only is this stupid and annoying, his posts contain no soundgarden content. i mean, i don't always write the most interesting or totally soundgarden related things, but i try not to write something w/out even mentioning them. we should have some kind of screening system to pluck out the bad seeds before they start to grow into the list. i think that if someone says something that more than half the list finds offensive, then continues to make such idiotic comments again and again, they should be dropped right away. i'm sure seth has these things as best under control as he can... but it seems like they (the evil ones) keep seeping in... unnerved in mpls. amanda ------------------------------ From: Eric Gardner Subject: #14 goes to... Filter191@aol.scam whoever he or she may be. The votes on what to do w/ the phone were pretty evenly split, with two people suggesting that the phone itself be the prize for #15. Naturally, I returned the phone to the dude that lost it and declined all his offers of a reward...until he mentioned beer.:) My thanks, as always, to all who participated. Eric ------------------------------ From: infinite Subject: circle of power i never have figured out why some people have a problem with this = song... i personally like it, (watch me misspell more words) especially = the way (it's hiro, isn't it?) the vocals are done.. it's loads of fun = in the car.. about the e-bow.. i haven't heard of an instance that kim (or chris) = have used an e-bow... sometimes it's hard to tell the difference between = what is feedback and what is an ebow (mostly because it's the same = idea).. that's why the songbooks for LTL have an ebow line for loud = love.. but i think it's just feedback in BHS.. not positive, but pretty = sure infinite don't you just LOVE acronyms???!!? ------------------------------ From: BdMtrFngr Subject: TAbs Hey whats up there everyone? Just wondering if anyone has a tab of No Attention. Its a pretty cool song, so I may as well learn how to play it Later Jay ------------------------------ From: UnknMan@aol.com Subject: Re: Superunknown Singles Seth 2 writes: > Does anyone know for sure how to tell which SU singles go into the >collectors box? This box is designed for the "UK Superunknown singles" which are: Spoonman - Spoonman / Fresh Tendrils / Cold Bitch / Exit Stonehenge The Day I Tried To Live - TDITTL / Like Suicide (acoustic) / Kickstand (live) Black Hole Sun #1 - BHS / JCP (live) / My Wave (live) / Spoonman (remix) Black Hole Sun #2 - BHS / BtW (live) / FOBD (live) / Birth Ritual (demo) Fell On Black Days #1 - FOBD / Kyle Petty / FOBD (video) Fell On Black Days #2 - FOBD / Girl U Want / FOBD (demo) That's the scoop on that. This brings me to a few questions as well: Any news on the DOTU Japanese full-length cd with 'extra track' - total of 16 ? Yeah, so it's NORMALLY a 16 cut album... I'm just wondering (c: Anyone seen the German cd single for Spoonman? I can order it but I'm afraid it's the same as the UK... Also has anyone ever SEEN the second disc for the BHS box set released in Germany? Not the UK #2 I mentioned above but this one: Tracks are BHS / JCP (live) / BtW (live) & it's A&M number 580-623-(2). Disc one I have; it comes in a strange package which I've never seen done before. Tracks are BHS / Like Suicide (acoustic) / Kickstand (live) . The packaging would best be described as digipak because the spine is held together simply by cardboard as each side is designed to hold a disc. Disc one comes with a cut-out that is placed on the eventual site of BHS (if it exists). My guess it that it's a pic disc with a purple sun that is so often related to the BHS singles: ie: UK disc #2: both the cd cover & cd itself / German #1: pic cd. Anyway... if anyone knows the whereabouts of any of these records please call their mother's because they're worried; oh, & tell me too (c: ray (c: ------------------------------ From: UnknMan@aol.com Subject: Re: Ben's Bass In a message dated 96-09-23 13:53:27 EDT, you write: > Anyway, in these pics, Ben is playing a Hoffner Bass. The very same, > violin-shaped, bass guitar played by Paul McCartney. Being a major > Beatles fan from wwwway back, I was very pleasantly surprised. I've > been a SG fan for years, and now I have an added reason to like them. > Does anybody know if Ben or any of the other lads has ever expressed > any appreciation for, or inspiration by, the Fab Four? Maybe he just > likes the sound of it, or maybe it's more than that. Also, can it be > assumed that much of the bass work on DOTU is done on that Hoffner > bass? The guys have been known to in the past play the occassional Beatles tune or at least use lyrics. They recorded "Come Together" & it appears on several Louder Than Love-era singles / eps. I have a boot of a 1990 show when Cornell sings "Hey Jude" during some other song (I think). They recorded Lennon's "One Minute Of Silence" (omitting Oko's minute) for Ultramega OK & "Everybody's Got Something To Hide Except Me & My Monkee" from The White Album @ the 1989 Peel Session... so yeah, I guess they appreciate & are inspired by the Beatles. Also I think that songs like "Head Down", B"low Up The Outside World" & all the Bmf studio covers feel like Beatles songs... just in how they were recorded... then again, many of those covers were done by the British BBC which would be synonymous for Beatle sounding recordings. But too be honest... I don't think Ben really likes Paul (c: I see a character clash here. Then again if Hater covers "Yesterday" on the new (!?!) album (like Cat Stevens) I'll start to wonder! the posting fool, ray (c: ------------------------------ From: "Limo Wreck" Subject: i speak... In seth's last tangent... i unfortunately agreed with most of what he was saying about the newer material. My fav album will always be "Badmotorfinger". Yes, some of it resides in the fact that it wasn't too popular. But the main reasons are that it wasn't straight forward rock. It was like dreamy metal with twisted giutars and a message, but only if you read too far into the lyrics. The intensity of "1000 rooms wide" strikes me everytime. I still love "Searching" live... its simply awesome. Although the newer material is still good, it doesn't strike me with the same unchanneled ferocity as "badmotorfinger." And for those of you that have been here long enough, you know my views on the "black hole sun" debacle. Interestingly enough, my fav songs off the last two albums respectively are "Head down" and "swith opens".... and the best solo ever scorched by Kim has to be (IMHO) "like suicide". enough for now, the jerm - -- Jeremy Crocker, A.K.A unGod j_crocke@eos.ncsu.edu http://www4.ncsu.edu/eos/users/j/j_crocke/WWW/home.html "So I take what is mine,and hold what is mine, suffocate what is mine, and bury what's mine. Soon the water will come and claim what is mine. I must leave it behind, and climb to a new place now." -"Flood", TOOL ------------------------------ From: Eliza J Polly Subject: RE: like god's eyes in my headlights... the boys actually did cover John Lennon's One Minute of Silence.....(as a joke, according to CC) >I'm not sure if anyone in the band has actually said >out loud that they admire the beatles as musicians ------------------------------ From: Aldrich Subject: Re: best b-side and best album >From: alexander ebora >Subject: best b-side and best album > >my vote for best b-side song is BIRTH RITUAL...that song rocks, awesome riffs >and Chris's vocal range is extremely high on this song...the best album as >everybody knows is still BADMOTORFINGER...hmmm, i wonder if BMF is better >than BMF/SOMMS...i still haven't heard the songs from SOMMS...i wonder what >i can do about it.... I Love Birth Ritual! I have let it be known before that it is tied w/ JCP for my absolute favorite SG song. I haven't really heard that much praise for it. Does anyone feel the same way? ---Ryland ------------------------------ From: Aldrich Subject: Re: best SG line >I would have to say that the best SG line in a song would be, "Light a >Roman candle and hold it in your hand" from 4th of July. I love: "If this isn't making sense, It doesn't make it lies." From Superunknown. I'm planning to put that in a sig file if I ever get around to it. Hopefully no one already used that one or Rules Bitch Grote will yell at me. @ @ ' \_/ ---Ryland ------------------------------ From: Jody Subject: Re: Professor Jesus Freak Joe Cennamo wrote: > > When I heard 2 pak was dead I put a big smile on face. best news that I > had heard all day. Burn in hell 2 pak. > > joec First of all it's Tupac/2pac not 2 pak. Second, if you knew anything about him or his music I doubt you'd be happy he was dead. Third, this is a mailing list about Soundgarden and not an "I'm glad 'Pac is dead" mailing list. Lastly, stop wasting our time with non-SG messages because I really doubt that anyone cares. ------------------------------ From: Jody Subject: Re: Chris/Layne duet type thing HEY! Does anyone know about a song called "Right Turn"? A friend that's no longer a friend taped a copy of it for me and it's supposed to be Chris singing with Layne Staley. I'm not sure if it's with Alice In Chains or with SG but I'd like to know a little more about this song if anyone knows about it. Later, Jody ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 2 Issue 253] ****************************************