From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Monday, 23 Sep 1996 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 03:06:19 EDT Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Monday, 23 Sep 1996 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: Re: E-Bow Re: Guitar Smashing Brandies Show Re: Sg & Agriculrure Brixton review from The Independent newspaper Our shadow's taller than our soul.... tix Re: Brandies Show tba's overwhelmed.... satanoscillatemymetallicsonatas oops.. E-Bow Guitar Smashing superfuckingunbelievable Hi Everybody! Re: please no more mail! Re: please get me off i am still waiting Re: Professor Jesus Freak Re: Professor Jesus Freak :> :> :> :> :> :> My Poignant Story Re: Professor Jesus Freak hey.. European Setlists... Shroom 'cuz I need the sleep, I've been wide awake dont like, hate Re: dont like, hate ------------------------------------------------------------ From: Chris Mackenzie Subject: Re: E-Bow Here's a quote from the March 1994 issue of Guitar School: "The intro was a feedback melody. Many people think we used an E-bow. I've seen transcriptions that have said to use an E-bow. The truth is, I've never even seen an E-bow. I simply stood in front of the amp, got the note ringing until it was feeding back, and slid my finger up the fret on the string and dragged the feedback with it." - Kim Thayil. The E-bow homepage (http://www.ebow.com) says that an E-bow was used in Black Hole Sun, but this is highly doubtful seeing as the above interview was performed just prior to the release of Superunknown. I'd be very quick to say that Soundgarden has never used an E-bow... I hope that helps. - -- Chris Mackenzie - cmackenz@spots.ab.ca - The Unofficial Wellwater Conspiracy Homepage - http://www.spots.ab.ca/~cmackenz/ - "Wellwater tastes better than tap water any day!" - SWRJr. ------------------------------ From: Chris Mackenzie Subject: Re: Guitar Smashing Brian L Orlinsky wrote: > I really did not understand the point of killing his instroments. Does the word "fun" come to mind? :) - -- Chris Mackenzie - cmackenz@spots.ab.ca - The Unofficial Wellwater Conspiracy Homepage - http://www.spots.ab.ca/~cmackenz/ - "Wellwater tastes better than tap water any day!" - SWRJr. ------------------------------ From: cgoodman@maine.com (Carole Goodman) Subject: Brandies Show I am going to the brandies show. I know all of you are really excited but someone was asking so I'd thoght I'd tell you. Maybe by some odd chance I'll meet one of you. Ivy "If you're tired of a whitehouse that's always smoking hemp. Vote for the future, vote Dole-Kemp." ------------------------------ From: The Guitarist-2001 Subject: Re: Sg & Agriculrure At 10:05 PM 9/20/96 +0000, Amber wrote: > So to summarize this- I >need a song that will get them interested without scaring them off. I >dunno. Help! Does anybody on this list NOT know what song I would suggest? Good. Then there ya have it. The Guitarist-2001 P.S. I think FOBD isn't a bad choice either . . . if you're trying to get something lighter . . . or Seasons if you got it . . . except that's not complete SG . . . "The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist" - The Usual Suspects ------------------------------ From: Deborah Baker <106314.1470@compuserve.com> Subject: Brixton review from The Independent newspaper Just found this review of the Brixton gig in The Independent On Sunday. Following on from reviewing a Power Station gig, Nicholas Barber writes.. 'After All, Seattle's Grammy-winning Soundgarden do the heavy thing metal thing with five times the creativity, 10 times the speed and 20 times the volume. But heavy metal it remains. I positively identified at least two instances of headbanging at the Brixton Acadamy on Thursday, and one of somebody making devil's horns hand gestures. I don't care if Chris Cornell does have spikey hair, I'd recognise his throat-lacerating howl anywhere: it's Bruce Dickinson as I live and breathe. To think it was only half a decade ago that grunge seemd to be metal's cooler, smarter, less posturing little brother. Now Soundgarden simply purvey heavy metal's breast-beating bombast while omitting the studded codpieces and the avian decapitation. And it's so self-aggrandisingly gloomy. Whine, whine, pseudo-poetic whine. "I play, I'm sick and lame," goes 'Rhinosaur.' "Drawing the hordes/I wait, and show the lame/The meaning of harm/ The skulls beneath my feet..." Doesn't this juvenile morbidity make you want to tickle them, or at least give their goatee beards a good tug? And Chris, what's with the line "Nothing seems to kill me no matter how hard I try"? Isn't that a bit sick, as well as being crassly untrue,bearing in mind that your fellow Seattle grunge star found that a shotgun did the trick quite effectively?' Nicholas Barber must have REALLY hated Power Station! And it's not my typing, the article really did say "sick and lame". Deborah ------------------------------ From: "Steven Russell Jr." Subject: Our shadow's taller than our soul.... Hey List! While reading the PJam whinegroup...er, newsgroup....I'm wondering if SG is planning a Letterman appearance? They'll be in Toronto on a Wednesday night and the first of three NYC dates is on a Friday...leaving Thursday open for an appearance :-) Industry lurkers is this a possibility? (Like you'd answer) Actually this would be a great time for SG to get some more pub. The video for BUtOW (Stairway '96) should be in heavy *crush* (love that word frank :) rotation in the middle of November plus they'll be in the middle of a tour about to be playin NYC...etc. etc. etc. I checked the Late Night homepage and they give guest until the first week of October. I wonder if Dave will be on Vacation at that time? Hmmm....Maybe if this post is prophetic and SG does do Letterman...we'll finally know the real identity of "Dave" from the lyric: "Been stuck inside and up all night at Dave's" :) Steve - - sudden Michigan fan since Mr. Collins is starting today 'gainst da cowboyz. ------------------------------ From: "Josh Broedel" Subject: tix You are now reading the message of a very happy man. He has just aquired tix for the Nov. 19 show in Boston. YYYYEEEEEAAAAHHHH!!!! Ok, now that that is out, i feel much better. I really can't believe this. I have been waiting years to see SG live and now that chance is here, i am so excited I can hardly control myself. I think i will go make a web page dedicated to my happiness. ______________ Come on in and take me on an override ______________ dashoshe@neca.com http://www.neca.com/~dashoshe ------------------------------ From: Sachin Trivedi Subject: Re: Brandies Show Hey, I'm from BU too, so if anyone knows how to get to Waltham from Boston, or can give me a ride or something, let me know too. Sachin On Sat, 21 Sep 1996, Michael Groark wrote: > If anyone didn't get tickets to the Brandies show, I might have > extras. Also if anyone knows how to get to Waltham from Boston, let me know. > Rock on! > > ------------------------------ From: infinite Subject: tba's have any of the tba's been cleared up yet?!!? ------------------------------ From: Eliza J Polly Subject: overwhelmed.... i just came home with a stack of CDs and i don't know where to begin - i need a week off of work to listen to this stuff.... okay, sorry if i am boring you all with my shopping trips, but i gotta tell you what i got today (most SG related): 1. The Burden Single - finally! The store only had 3, so I bought all three (Brian, one will come your way kiddo...) and they are all different (UK, US..)! Bleed Together kicks ass! I have the box set with an awesome poster and then two others - they each have different stuff, some with Birth Ritual, some with the CC interview, Karaoke, She's A Politican, Birth Ritual.... 2. SUPERMAINSTREAM - aaaaaah! Been looking for this work quite awhile. 3. SuperUnInterview - don't know if this is worth it, but had to own it, any chance to hear the boys talk.... 4. Hater - had heard it but never bought it, finally did 5. Fast Stories...from Kid Coma: Thank you Justin - i would have teetered on whether to buy it today, but thanks to your review, i had to! 6. Brad - another one I finally bought 7. Green River - found an import of outtakes (sorry Bortnik - but i have been listening to Green River since you were probably in diapers..) 8. Escape from LA Soundtrack - has some great stuff, Stabbing Westward, Tool, Butthole Surfers, White Zombie, Deftones, etc. Well, between today and Chicago i am broke and I DONT CARE.... going to plant myself at my CD player, hasta kids- eliza ------------------------------ From: Geoff Kleemola Subject: satanoscillatemymetallicsonatas I crazy thing happened this summer. My school account expired right before school started, and to make a long story short I lost the most current list of somms owners on the list. I think we were up to 50, but I have only until 37. Please check the list, especially if you obtained somms or joined the list since April of this year, to see if you are counted. Following are the instructions on what info I need, and the list of somms-owning list-members. Thanks, Geoff If anybody else has a copy, email me preferably with the word SOMMS in the subject. I'll only count genuine copies, and assume they are on CD unless you tell me. (there are some on vinyl I believe) A name followed by (+1) indicates that that person also know people who own it. I know one person myself. A number in brackets without a '+' indicates that they own that number of copies. Clear? I hope so. See you down on the upside.... (list of somms owners follows) The list of owners includes: Laughing Boy Kelly Christa Jones Seth (+3) (including 1 radio-only promo) Chris Mackenzie euphoric Aaron Jennifer L. York (+2) B. Kinser Cornell Vikki Lee James Ingram Little Joe Blind Dog Stephen Fox (2) (including special somms-only copy given to radio stations) Myself (Geoff Kleemola)(+1) Dwayne Bryant Dallis Toybox Caryn Rose Chris Farley (2) John Freeman Eric Gardner HasNoName Audrey Hillyard Jizzwack Nate Crosswhite nancy e phend Eric Lanning OponFam Kerri Char Saracen Stuart Davies Alyssa Kent Alex (BrthRitual@aol.com) Darren L Kochersperger Kazam Ali -Geoff ------------------------------ From: Eliza J Polly Subject: oops.. one more thing..... has anyone seen a CD by Book of Love called "Love Bubble"? Well, i stumbled upon it today, it is from '93 i think, and i was stunned when i saw the package - the front is just like No Code! Different images, but way too similar to be a coincedence...i held it up to No Code and showed the guy in the store and he said, "Damn, PJ ripped them off!" I dont know if I would go that far (cuz i dont give a hoot about Book of Love), but it was interesting... back to the music, eliza ------------------------------ From: Tiffany S StClaireMefret Subject: E-Bow If this was already mentioned, I missed it: I bought an E-Bow for a guitar playing friend last ChrisTmas, and inside the box was a list of bands that have used the E-Bow. Listed there was Soundgarden. I think that Kim Thayil may use the E-Bow during BHS, but I wouldn'd bet my life on it. BTW, E-Bow is sort of an electronic "bow". You wave it over the strings to get slurred/slidey effects, among other things. If anyone knows the name of the airport in Salem Ore, could they send me private email (if there is an airport there)? Thanks. I can't find an airline out of Sacramento CA that goes there. ------------------------------ From: Brian L Orlinsky Subject: Guitar Smashing When I saw SG in Chicagi in '94 Chris smashed more then one of his guitars. At the end of the set CC violently pounded one of his guitars into an amp. He went on with the destruction for about ten mins. I really did not understand the point of killing his instroments. Brian ------------------------------ From: Eliza J Polly Subject: superfuckingunbelievable forgive me list, for posting once again today, but, i have to say this..... Supermainstream is unbelievable!!! One of the best things i have ever ever ever ever bought! If i didnt before believe (which I did) that SG is one of the most diverse bands around, it is now an undisputable fact. I have never heard so many different styles on one CD in my life. I listened to Heart Fist about 12 times...and i almost died and went to heaven when i heard chris start to sing "Stranglehold" However, after watching SNL again last night, and whincing once again at CC's voice....and now hearing this CD, i am longing to press some magic button to take me back to the early '90s (for music purposes only, thank ya very much)... One question, anyone else who has this (Steve or the guy with the new RA he likes - sorry I forgot your name...or anyone) does the sound on Unholy War fade in and out on yours too, or did I get a crappy CD? To anyone who has ever pondered spending the $$$ for this CD, go to the store right now - it is truly amazing. going to calm down somewhere and count the days to chicago (46 i think?), *sigh* - --eliza (the psycho-shopper whose checkbook is gonna get put under lock and key by her favorite ListThug) ------------------------------ From: Natalie De Rojas Subject: Hi Everybody! Hey guys!....I've been on the list for a couple of weeks, and i just thought i would say hi to all of you!....................HI!..........I'm from Miami, Florida, and i have a SG story for you. I went to the Alanis Morissette concert in West Palm Beach on Friday....it was wicked if anyone wants details just email me personally....anyways, we were waiting for her to come on stage and the opening act was already done so, they started playing misc. music.... well, they played one or two songs from SG....im pretty sure they played Burden in My Hand...and they played one before that, but i was way wasted and i can't remember which one it was. Just thought i'd share with you guys! I thought it was pretty cool:) Nat ------------------------------ From: Cornell Subject: Re: please no more mail! Michael Bortnik wrote: > > your system has to be the most annoying message sevice, please > UNSUBSCRIBE ME NOW!!!!!! you are nothing but a bunch of phonies, how can > ypu be sg fans and listen to oasis,bush,stp and all the other assorted > crap that sneaks in through. get me off the list now Gee...I guess someone's a better Soundgarden fan than all of us combined. Forgive us, O lord, for having the audacity to like other bands. Gregg - -- "Fall into single file line" -- S. Weiland HEAVY ROTATION-"Rubberneck" toadies "Pretty Hate Machine" nine inch nails ______________________________________________________ | | | O V E R S O U L | |______________________________________________________| D E M O -- due to be completed mid-October ------------------------------ From: Cornell Subject: Re: please get me off i am still waiting Michael Bortnik wrote: > > listen, all of you jerks diversity in music is great but not when phonie > hack bads who rip off the hard work some bands put forth! how the hell > can say you are a real sg fan and listen to stp who exploited them for > all they are worth. how many of u even know who green river is or > mudhoney,the melvins a very small majority, but you all like bush. fuck > you! diversity, you don't know shit about it! how many of you know blues > explosion or sebadoh or hovercraft or sonic youth or helium or jesus and > mary chain? huh skrew off go listen to korn and oasis, hum along to bush > and siverchair, learn all the lyrics to better than ezra and stp. but > don't for a second consider your self a sg fan! now please get me off the > list! you all ran out and bought superunkown and now you're sg fans, well > my ass! Well, it looks like you are the God of music once again. Forgive us. What musical instrument do you play? Do you play one? If you did, I don't think you'd have this goddamn attitude. If you recall, way back in Scr Life days, SG wasn't exactly a multitude of swirling sound. They were a power chord playing, 4/4 timin' rock band. Sure, they kicked ass, but they got WAY better. And we know who Green River and Mudhoney are, but what the hell do they have to do with Soundgarden, besides the fact that they all come from SEattle? Green River broke up, members become MlB, then Wood died, then some members became PJ. Wow. There's nothing of Soundgarden in there, huh? Unless, of course, you're trying to say that SEattle is the only place where good music comes from. That's a pretty elitest thing to say. I guess everyone who has a band, but doesn't live in Seattle should quit according to you. I think you should try to remember that music is based on opinion. I don't remember a survey being taken among the list of "who likes bush". I don't think that really matters when it comes to Soundgarden. Maybe you're just bitter because the best sonic youth can do is make a bunch of fucking noise. I wonder if they ever check to see if their strings are in tune. And yes, I wouldn't doubt that some of us became fans post-Superunknown. But most of these people probably went out and bought Ultramega OK, LtL and BmF very soon after. I'm willing to bet that these people hunt down rare vinyl pressings such as HIV Baby with a passion. These people are not lesser fans than anyone just because they discovered Soundgarden later on in their careers. Maybe I'm not such a big Led Zeppelin fan because they broke up when I was 2, and I only started to buy their albums when I was 11. In this idiotic assesment, you've attempted to prove that you only you are a true Soundgarden fan, but in truth you've proved that you are an ignorant moron. Thank you I'm done. Gregg ps don't bother replying. We're all stupider for having listened to you the first time. pps I have satanoscillatemymetallicsonatas. do you? - -- "Fall into single file line" -- S. Weiland HEAVY ROTATION-"Rubberneck" toadies "Pretty Hate Machine" nine inch nails ______________________________________________________ | | | O V E R S O U L | |______________________________________________________| D E M O -- due to be completed mid-October ------------------------------ From: Joe Cennamo Subject: Re: Professor Jesus Freak When I heard 2 pak was dead I put a big smile on face. best news that I had heard all day. Burn in hell 2 pak. joec ------------------------------ From: Joe Cennamo Subject: Re: Professor Jesus Freak It is not racist to wish rap stars dead. I would like to see Vanilla Ice die too. joec ------------------------------ From: overfloater@thenexus.com Subject: :> :> :> :> :> :> I was talking to that old friend of mine Sam, whose favorite band also happens to be Soundgarden (and I'm gonn get him on the list as soon as he gets a computer). He mentioned his girlfriend's friend, who does security for certain shows, and she did Lolla 96 and got to meet Soundgarden and got Chris Cornell's autografed towel... so I told him to tell her to do the Brandeis show and get us backstage :> :> :> :> I don't know if sh actually can but it sure as hell is worth a try :> And it's REALLY nice to have a friend to hang out with whose favorite band is also Soundgarden.. the only time I experienced that was when I met Shroom.. it was neat, we didn't fight over what music to listen to in the car :> Sigh... this is cool :> Oh well.. I'll try to get a scan of that towel for tha page somehow :> btw, she said that Chris is like the nicest guy in the world, I'm gonn have to meet this lady and get details. :> ------------------------------ From: jsk@tiac.net Subject: My Poignant Story A Poignant Family Soundgarden Story by Jezebel ...So my Mom calls me the other day (I'm at work) and shrieks, "Rocket From The Crypt is opening for Soundgarden on Nov. 19 at Brandeis! Guess what I want for my 48th birthday?" No, you must be mistaken, I say, calmly, since I work in a cubicle. That's just too good to be true. "Well, I heard it on the radio. Now you find out from that list where and when to get tickets, that's what I want." (I keep telling my mom to join the list, but she got annoyed with the AIC list which is apparently a young hip incrowd talking mostly to each other, and justifying any and all rude behavior of the band members because they are gods and can do no wrong...and she's turned off lists now) Hm. So I write to Seth, apologetically asking him for information that is surely in my unread list pile somewhere (sorry! I just caught up today, and yes it was), offering him a ride to the show as trade for the info. He gives me the phone number for ticketbastard (I DO like that name) and I actually woke up at 10am on a Saturday, disentangled myself from someone, and dialled for half an hour before I woke up enough to think: Gee. if this number ends in -2000, then dialling -2001 is most likely going to be ticketbastard still...a long shot, but I found myself, happily, instantly on hold instead of being deafened by that "dee dee DEEEE--all circuits are busy now" woman (don't you ever wonder what she looks like? For some reason I'm convinced that she has a beehive). It worked for Seth too! Try it! I listened to an obnoxious repeating ad for fifteen long minutes and then yay! I got tickets and then of course had to call my mom for another half hour (busy--she was calling too, with my credit card number) because tickets are non-refundable! Yikes. It was a close one. After trying to intercept the line through the operator was unsuccesful, I'd given up but then got her as she was taking a break to use the bathroom (sorry, more info than you needed). She was in a foul mood. "I've been calling for an hour," she griped. "I'm just not lucky. I've never been lucky." "Thank God. I got em," I said. "I knew it! You're lucky. I should've known! It's because you're a Leo with a Pisces moon and and Aries rising and blah blah blah...." Whatever. So if I'm so lucky, how come I don't have my SOMMS tee shirt yet? (This should explain why I didn't buy more tickets and sell them to list members, for which I feel guilty, but I'm a bit more cautious now...) see you New Englanders Nov.19th, Jezebel p.s. I can wholeheartedly recommend Rocket From The Crypt's 'Circa...Now!.' I saw them live once and it was a ball....but I don't like their new stuff quite so much...oh well... ------------------------------ From: endless_nameless@prodigy.com (GRRL NIKI FREER) Subject: Re: Professor Jesus Freak OKay, before we all flame this bastard Joe C-something, let's just remember that he's probably some dork 12 year old desperate for attention. mind riot ____ "It's a feeling everyone gets. Yr all happy with yr life, everything's going well, things are exciting-- when all of a sudden you realize yr unhappy in the extreme, to the point of being really, really scared. There's no particular event you can pin the feeling down to, it's just that you realize one day that everything in yr life is FUCKED!" chris cornell ------------------------------ From: overfloater@thenexus.com Subject: hey.. if anything bounced off thenexus.com, i am deeply sorry.. but dont unsubscribe me cause it wont happen agian :> but onto soundgarden news.. umm.. i really like 'em :> i just wanted to apologize to the list in case any mail bounced :> so i dont have anything else to say sorry. ------------------------------ From: endless_nameless@prodigy.com (GRRL NIKI FREER) Subject: European Setlists... to those of you who have gone to shows in the UK or Europe, i know that they've reportedly played about 7 songs from each album, but can someone personally e-mail me a set list? it doesn't have to be in any type of order, just a general list of the live songs. oh, and have they played "waiting for the sun" yet? i'm DYING to hear this song, i've never even heard the original version by the doors. can't wait for November 21!! see you in Philly Matt!! mind riot ____ "It's a feeling everyone gets. Yr all happy with yr life, everything's going well, things are exciting-- when all of a sudden you realize yr unhappy in the extreme, to the point of being really, really scared. There's no particular event you can pin the feeling down to, it's just that you realize one day that everything in yr life is FUCKED!" chris cornell ------------------------------ From: Paul Thompson Subject: Shroom Shroom- you're not dead, are you? Haven't heard from the loudest SOMMS member in a while. I must be the quietist. - -- Paul beatnik@prairienet.org - -- ------------------------------ Subject: 'cuz I need the sleep, I've been wide awake From: Ben Timberlake I talked to a friend of mine today who interned for MTV news this summer. She told me she got to call Silver Mngmt. about the Kim/Heather Mifflin incident. She didn't elaborate very much but I plan on getting more details. She's a big AiC fan, so she was pretty excited and the uniqueness was not wasted on one who didn't appreciate it. -- Ben Ben Timberlake Why doesn't anyone Northwestern University believe in loneliness? Medill School of Journalism ***btimlake@nwu.edu*** -30- http://pubweb.acns.nwu.edu/~bft718 "Sure, sure. The music plays, the wheel turns . . . . . . and our spin ain't over yet." -- Paul Newman, "The Hudsucker Proxy" ------------------------------ From: SCOTT MICHAEL MORROW Subject: dont like, hate is it possible for a list member to not like or even hate a recorded soundgarden song. Personally i do not, but it would be interesting to hear if anyone does, please give reasons to your hatred. smmorrow@deakin.edu.au ------------------------------ From: Aleko Subject: Re: dont like, hate Well i don't like I awake and the one Hiro sings Circle of Power (i think). Hate is too strong a word to use really, i hate Billy Ray Cyrus' music but i could never hate any Soundgarden songs. Well i could but i don't see it ever happening. On Mon, 23 Sep 1996, SCOTT MICHAEL MORROW wrote: > is it possible for a list member to not like or even hate a recorded > soundgarden song. Personally i do not, but it would be interesting to > hear if anyone does, please give reasons to your hatred. > > smmorrow@deakin.edu.au > > > "Rock n' roll doesn't have a soul, just a dick and a wallet" --- Kim Thayil ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 2 Issue 252] ****************************************