From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Sunday, 22 Sep 1996 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 13:33:24 EDT Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Sunday, 22 Sep 1996 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: Re: Professor Jesus Freak Thoughts and stuff Met Them The Rockview Interview Brixton Show/ Metal Hammer interview fobd tab, poetas de musica. surveys RE: Suddenly Soundgarden RE: fobd Re: Met Them Re: Dusty (remix) information Re: Professor Jesus Freak A bit of SG related news never???? sg covers RE: Met Them :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> well now they better not come here... Re: :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> Re: :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> Re: :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> no more idiotic posts Re: Professor Jesus Freak Re: :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> : Brandies Show Re:and you've got nothing to say... incessant mace no declaration of conformity here... Re: fobd tab, poetas de musica. uhm list Re: no declaration of conformity here... ------------------------------------------------------------ From: Taylor Holmes Subject: Re: Professor Jesus Freak caryn rose wrote: > i would also argue that rock lyrics, though beautiful sometimes, are > not strictly by academic definition, poetry. > > --caryn hmmm... from what I remember, a poem is a composition in verse... and is characterized by a heightenedly developed form and the use of language and rythym to express an imaginative interpretation of the subject... in that case I would say that both SG and SDD are poets... If you want to, you can choose a SG song, define it's meter, ryhme, subject, and use of metaphors to make your point to your teacher... If presented right, it will be a success... Later, Taylor yes, I pulled out my old text... :) ------------------------------ From: "Mo" Subject: Thoughts and stuff I'd love to see an SG b-sides collection, like a lot of other bands do, gather the b-sides and slap them on one CD in a listenable order. I know I'D buy it... Mo. =="Sleep tight for me, I'm gone..."== (Tighter and Tighter - Chris Cornell) http://indigo.ie/~majoc/ majoc@indigo.ie ------------------------------ From: Gemma Lewis Subject: Met Them This is about when I met Soundgarden Thursday night. You know ,Kite?? We both, me and my brother,got to the academy 6.15pm and got 2 passes with VIPs on them from Steve Woods the tour manager. He said we were early as we were meant to meet them at 8pm. He said he could arrange it for earlier, but we said no thanx, as we thought it might piss them off. Then we watched Soundgarden do their soundcheck for about 25 min which was ace! The woman came up to us in the guest bar about 7.45pm and bought us drinks She said that they're 'really shy'. When we walked to the corrider there was Matt Cameron checking out these photos, we were introduced "This is Gemma she won the competition", "CONGRATULATIONS!" he sang. He came up and shook my hand and said 'Hi' smiling. Then we went inside and the room was bright red, and behind the door on a black leather sofa was Chris Cornell, laid out, he looked up and the woman,Val, said the same as before "Hey!" he said and shook my hand with a sly grin. Ben Shepard was on the far left of the room on a chair, with a black net on his head "this is Lawrence of Arabia" Val said he smiled and waved. Then Matt came back in and someone was about to introduce us again when he said "We already met" and Chris said almost laughing "They've exchanged phone numbers". There was a group there called Eleven and Chris asked Matt "What was the crowd like for Eleven?" and Matt said "Pretty good for Eleven" then Chris said "What does that mean?" and Matt replied "I don't know". I met Susan Silver and shook hands, she is really nice and we were talking about the pictures I got them to sign. Kim was missing for a while, but when he came in ,he is a big bloke, he said "Hi" and shook my hand and smiled. Susan asked if there was anything I wanted, like what your life I felt like saying ; ) When Kim signed this picture he said "God i'm ugly" and signed on his face and Ben is a nutter in a funny way. Then Chris asked me if I wanted anything put on the picture of himself and I said "I don't care, anything" so he put ' I CARE '. Susan suggested to take a photo of all of us. So Chris said he couldn't be bothered to get up and asked if I would mind sitting on the floor, IF I WOULD MIND!!. Kim wanted to sit on the arm of the sofa where Chris's head was and Chris said "You'll squash my head" and when Kim sat on the arm Chris went "ARGH" which made us laugh. There were really great guys and not at all miserable as everyone makes them out to be. On the way out Chris shook my hand firmly and for a long time and said "Thanx alot" as we left the room. : ) Hope this weren't too long Kite Damn I forgot to mention the list to the guys, but I told Val and she works with them so maybe she'll tell them. She also works with AIC, what a great job! ------------------------------ From: Deborah Baker <106314.1470@compuserve.com> Subject: The Rockview Interview I've just receive this really weird Soundgarden interview CD called The Rockview Interviews. It's only just been released but is in fact from an interview when Jason was in the band. Soundgarden - mostly Chris - are being interviewed by some weirdo called Crazy Chris Tetley who is apparently on every American rock band's list of people to know in the UK if they want to break worldwide. Never heard of him myself and he's a crap interviewer! Anyway, it's at soundcheck and while Chris is interviewing Chris (!) the others are playing pool - you can hear the cue hit the ball, talking in the background (lot's of 'fuck!'s) - you can even hear a toilet flushing! I heard a female voice in the background (Susan?). It's a little like being there and eavesdropping on someone's conversation. Chris and Jason were talking about skateboarding and how they wish they had brought their boards to Europe. They talked about the Seattle scene - stuff we all know about now, but this interview was pre Nevermind. Chris described Loud Love as sounding like breaking a brick of ice. How it was cool to see Billy Joel perform when they went to the Grammys for Ultramega OK. But the interviewer was so untogether - like he hadn't got his questions prepared - or he was stoned. He looks like one of those guys who is way too old to have long platinum blond hair. UK sommsters can picture Peter Stringfellow meets Pat Cash or Jimmy Savile and they'll get the idea! The pictures of SG on the packaging, including a mini poster, are great. Chris with long hair - mostly pre-goatee. And a very nice sweaty, topless one that Shroom would certainly want to lick! I wondered if anyone else had head of this series of Rockview Interviews and why they've only just got around to releasing the SG one six years later? It only cost me 6.99 (sterling) so even though it's not an absolute must-have, it is worth checking out if you can find it cheap enough. It's on Rockview Records RVCD 214. Deborah ------------------------------ From: Deborah Baker <106314.1470@compuserve.com> Subject: Brixton Show/ Metal Hammer interview Eleven were on before Moby? Shit, I didn't know they were playing or I would have made sure I got there early. The ads in the back of Kerrang only mentioned Moby. Damn damn damn! Also, how did Stephen Russell find out about BUTOW/Dusty remix being released as a single in the UK on October 21? The dreaded Kerrang is about the only music mag that features SG on an almost weekly basis - in the UK - and they haven't mentioned that either. BTW, everyone try and get hold of the October issue of Metal Hammer. There is a killer interview with Chris and a free CD that includes trax from AIC Unplugged and Sponge. I have typed the article up on Wordpad , but haven't found a way to attach it yet. (I've only had a pc for a week, so bear with me. Don't anyone else DARE send it to Seth before me as I gave myself eyestrain and finger damage typing it up!) Do SG have a country song? Well, the mandolin duel on Ty Cobb sounds pretty country to me, but given the trouble someone has already had with JC Pose in the classroom, maybe 'fuck you all' sung 50 billion times is not the way to spread the word. Actually, I like Hank Williams as well. In the above mentioned Metal Hammer interview Chris says he likes T Rex!! So *that's* telling Michael Bortnik not to be such a narrow minded idiot! One more thing, should I stick to one SG subject per email? Am I getting carried away emailing everyday? It's just so good to exchange info/views on SG with other obsessors. People at work think I'm nuts and being very teenage ( I wish!) but I find I need some kind of SG fix at least once a day and checking out the digest and Seth's site is pretty exciting for me. Maybe I'll calm down after a while. Bye for now. Deb ------------------------------ From: "Luck's Last Match" Subject: fobd tab, poetas de musica. Yeah, I have Cherry Lane's original tab book for Superunknown and i wondered why the hell would he move the power chord all the way up to the second fret(w/ open A string) just to get an E power chord when there's already one at the 7th fret on the sixth string. Then I got a guitar world w/ fobd, and they have it right. Cherry Lane gets on my nerves sometimes....like not giving me the lead guitar parts for Cracker's Kerosene Hat book...hell, that book doesn't even have tabs.... And to whoever it is whose teacher thinks Snoop Dogg is more of a poet than Chris Cornell, drop me a line. Your teacher is going to get a three page essay to the contrary. All snoop does is wins the contest for saying fuck and motherfucker the most times in one record. That gets old, unless you're like 13 or 14 and still get excited everytime somebody says a cuss word.... And the guy who said that the world would be a better place w/out 2pac and snoop, wasn't necesarily making a racist comment. These two people are known for hardcore drugs and belittling women, not necesarily the greatest things for the world. And because they are in positions of power, people without minds of their own are influenced by them. Now don't get me wrong i like rap. I even like gangsta rap. Cypress Hill is one of my favorite groups of all time. But the only drug you hear about from them is marijuana, which is not even physically addictive. And how do i feel about 2pacs death? You play with fire, you get burned. Well, back to sg content....everyone hear about Kyle Petty? They tried to charge him with hit and run and reckless driving, when in reality, it wasn't even legally reckless driving...reduced to a lesser charge and paid off a $65 fine....imagine charging son of richard with reckless driving...he might be coming up on their right... And hey, Shroom, i'm hereby starting the NC chapter of KTMS. Besides, it was down in Rockingham where this whole thing started (actually i'm sure it was in some other city near there, considering we drove 5 miles into rockingham and found 1 place to eat...no way there could be a hotel there) And i still have the black asphalt dust on my hat from the speedway! Hehehe...KTMS unite! laters. -j "Stand up and everyone will see your holiness" -Soundgarden. ------------------------------ From: rea47935@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu (hasswipee) Subject: surveys >Enjoyed that, do another one. How about best song or member of the band. >Or how about best b-side or cover done by the band.. Come on Raul, >Hasswipee, Whatever, do another one.. The people have spoken, I shall provide. The best song, best member and best b-sides have already been discussed, so i just made up a survey I hadnt seen before. This is more like a bunch of surveys put into one, so just reply to this individual message (not to the digest unless you want seth to personally kill you!), and i will tally up the results, yaddi yadda you know the drill. Question 1 Which of these Soundgarden videos have you seen? Flower, Hands All Over, Loud Love, Jesus Christ Pose, Rusty Cage, Outshined, Spoonman, Black Hole Sun, Fell On Black Days, My Wave, Superunknown, The Day I Tried To Live, Pretty Noose, Burden In My Hand Question 2 As of right now, have you ever seen soundgarden in concert? And if you haven't, do you have tickets for any of the announced upcoming shows? Question 3 Can you play any soundgarden song on any instrument? If so, tell me which ones. (or just some of them for you guitar players that know like pretty much every song) Question 4 Do you own all six (Down On The Upside, Superunknown, Badmotorfinger, Louder Than Love, Ultramega OK, Screaming Life/Fopp) of soundgarden's albums? Question 5 Approximately how long after you joined the list did you post your first message? That's it. Remember people, send the answers directly to ME! Just in case some people dont know how to hit reply or how to look at my email address at the top of this message if youre on digest, my email address is: rea47935@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu I will take responses until next friday. I hope some of you actually respond to this one, I pretty much had to beg you people to take part in the other one. Raul, Hasswipee, Whatever http://pegasus.cc.ucf.edu/~rea49625/ CD's im obsessed with this week: R.E.M. - New Adventures in Hi-Fi, Screaming Trees - Dust ------------------------------ From: jcho@discovernet.net (Joshua Cho) Subject: RE: Suddenly Soundgarden >Been lurking on this list for many months and been an SG fan for many >years. Saw them live for the 1st time this summer at LOLLA at Randal's >Island, N.Y. Will be seeing them again on 11/17 at Roseland in N.Y.C. I'll be there on the 17th too! See ya there! >Anyway, getting to the subject at hand here; was cable-surfing last >night and came upon a new sitcom by the name of "Suddenly Susan", >starring Brooke Shields. The point at which I entered the story has >her sitting at her work desk (works at advertising agency), nursing a >hangover. In walks some guy, slaps a set of headphones on her head, >causing her tortured brain to do somersaults, and says "I'm reviewing >the latest Soundgarden. What do you think?" >Well, what do you guys think? Is this kind of exposure a good or bad >thing? Does it go towards providing overdue recognition, or towards >trivialization and exploitation? Everything these days is advertising. It's the same thing as going to a movie and seeing brand names flagrantly displayed: someone paid to have SG mentioned in that show. Isn't it interesting that SG is about to launch a major US tour to support their new album around the same time this new show is reaching millions of American households? Trivialization? That's pretty much part and parcel of signing a huge record contact. Exploitation? Yeah, you could call it that. But as long as we all still enjoy their music, what's the diff? Josh ------------------------------ From: jcho@discovernet.net (Joshua Cho) Subject: RE: fobd yeah i had been meaning to mention this to someone.. the only "right" = >tab for fobd was in a g-tar mag.. the ones that have an e chord and then = >a b full chord are wrong.. it's a bend, not a chord.. it's kind of hard = >to explain, fifths i think. and then it goes to c but not the open c = >chord like on the tab on the page... it's really obvious if you see them = >play it.. > It is fifths, that song's tuned to open-D: dadgbe (just tune the low-E string down to D). Just bar the three lowest strings and you gotta a root-fifth-root "power chord" that you can bend, which is what they do. SG loves these so-called "open tunings" In fact, almost the entire DOTU album uses open tunings. (After writing this I realize I'm probably talking about things that are pretty obvious. If so, forgive me.) Josh ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Met Them From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) > "This is Gemma she won the competition", "CONGRATULATIONS!" > he sang. You are a very lucky lady Gemma, not only did you meet the guys, you had Chris sing to you (sort of). :-) > I met Susan Silver and shook hands, she is really nice and we were talking > about the pictures I got them to sign. Is it possible for you to get your pictures scan for the web page??? Would be great to see them. > When Kim signed this picture he said "God i'm ugly" and signed on his face How can some one with such great eyes think that.. Besides it's the music he creates that makes him a beautiful person.. I see nothing ugly about him... > Susan suggested to take a photo of all of us. Again another great picture to see, hope you can get them scanned... >Hope this weren't too long >Kite No note about meeting the guys could be to long. Thank you for sharing your special meeting with us. Jamie (Jealous Village Idiot who wishes she had Val's job) ------------------------------ From: Geoff Kleemola Subject: Re: Dusty (remix) information Yes, I would have to say that everman does prance around like the ultimate butt-rock weenie. A semi-unrelated note reminds me of the Louder Than Live video when Everman is smashing his bass (which was subsequesntly given away in a contest). While everman is swinging the body of his instrument around by the strings, Chris is standing on his guitar, which is face down. It is some of the worse abuse of musical instruments I have ever seen. For people who do not own or have not seen this, I will make an mpeg clip available to Seth sometime next week. Also when I saw them live in '94, Ben charged through Matt's kit at the end of the set. Do they still do this? Geoff ------------------------------ From: "Josh Broedel" Subject: Re: Professor Jesus Freak > On Fri, 20 Sep 1996, Scroggin wrote: > > > FUCKING SHIT... in this situation im reminded of a quote , my friend > > said right after 2pac dies.." well 2pac's dead , and Snoop has aids so > > soon the world will be a better place." > > that comment is disgusting and has no place here. not to mention that > it's racist, which makes it even WORSE (if possible). you don't like rap > music? t hat's fine. that doesn't mean sentiments like this are > appropriate. i may not like them either, but i hardly wish their death. Well caryn, im surprised at you...when you stop and think for a minute before flaming anyone with an opinion, you might see that this might not be racist, just another SG fan that doesn't like rap music, and all the unnecessary violence associated with it. The 2-pac death is a perfect example. I don't think the world will ever see Chris Cornell gunned down by Jonathan Davis just because their record companies don't like each other. For christ sakes, caryn, we are suposed to be a family here, not some dysfunctional band of maniacs who can't agree on anything. the rest of your post, as most of yours are, was very well thought out and chock full of sage remarks ;>) but your constant flaming is just going to get everyone pissed at you. ------------------------------ Subject: A bit of SG related news From: "Matthew Lawrence" Hi, I'm not back on the list or anything (yet) but I thought I'd just share a bit of SG related news.. First off I just saw SG the night before last at the Brixton academy and I'm happy to say that they kicked arse. The new songs sound SO good live.. The mosh for Ty Cobb was incredible. The only problem was that I bought my tickets from a tout (bad planning left me tickless until the night of the gig) for about twice the selling price.. Plus I was buying for me and my sister so I ended up forking out 60 pounds for 2 tickets :( But on the other hand, it was probably the best money I ever spent.. I've never seen SG live before (except at Reading) so this was a new and incredibly rewarding experience. I can't remember the set list, but Chris said it was 7 songs from each of the last 3 albums. I can list them out of order Rusty Cage Outshined Slaves and Bulldozers (last before the encore) Jesus Christ Pose (very last song) Searching with my good eye closed Drawing Flies Let Me Drown My Wave Fell on Black Days Mailman Black Hole Sun (Chris solo) Spoonman (first song they played) Kickstand Pretty Noose Ty Cobb Blow up the Outside World Burden in my Hand Never the Machine Forever (1st encore) Boot Camp (with a funny thing before it that might have been a brand new song) And I think that's it.. Bloody good set. But it doesn't end there, last week I got my hands on another copy of Screaming Lise/Fopp, both versions of the Outshined single, Louder than Live video and the JCP video.. But wait, get this.. They were all signed by every member of the band.. They were going for 100 pounds for the lot from an ex-fan.. I couldn't believe my luck. So there you go.. I'll resubscribe once I'm actually officially back at university and fully able to keep reading it... Matt ------------------------------ From: infinite Subject: never???? did i get that right?? did sg really play never the machine = forever?!?!?! geez... i would pay for a ticket just to see them play = it.. i bet it's a bitch to play.. at least that's what i would expect by = listening to it.. i figured that was never going to see the stage = light.. i like these set lists.. i'm going to be really upset if i miss seeing = them play. did anyone get to hear zero chance? i thought someone said = they played that at lolla, but has it turned up at their own shows?? infinite ps when i said i'd pay for a ticket to see NTMF, i meant cause i bet = it would be hard for them.. pps anyone see pj on letterman?!!?! they were great!! has chris ever been = as snazzy looking as eddie was last night? i mean he was smooth looking = in a king of hip gangsta way. and i could hardly recognize stone and = mike, they look different.. oh well email me privately and i'll fill yer = box w/ my meaningless ramblings ------------------------------ From: infinite Subject: sg covers i know this was brought up a few months ago.. but do you all think Sg = could do a great version of jimi hendrix's burning of the midnight = lamp?? it seems right up kims alley, and i think the lyrics would sound = great coming from chris... just a thought ------------------------------ From: Eliza J Polly Subject: RE: Met Them >Then we went inside and the room was bright red, and behind the door on a >black leather sofa was Chris Cornell, laid out AAAUGGHH! How totally GREEN WITH ENVY can we all be?!?!? Congrats Gemma - sounds like an awesome time and thanks for sharing...it was DEFINITELY not too long, would have liked even more details! ------------------------------ From: overfloater@thenexus.com Subject: :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> HEheheahhehaehehahehehaehea!!!!!!! I ' M G O I N G T O S E E S O U N D G A R D E N ! ! ! ! ! ! ! :> :> Well, let me tell you about my escapade.. I woke up and promptly called Ticketmaster at 10am. It was busy. Very very busy. I ended up calling Brandeis twice, and I couldn't get anything. So in a DESPERATE ATTEMPT (hehehehe... one a my band's songs) I called my friend Johny D, who's mother is SO NICE to drive us to Boston, that I'm payin for Johny's ticket. Anyway.. I call him and blurt out, "Can I borrow fifty dollars?" And he actually did :> So I went off to Coconuts, the nearest Ticketmaster dealer people (I had my mom's credit card number, so I was gonna order from the phone, but one has to pay cash only at record stores, etc.) I was going bugshit because I thought it was going to be sold out definitely. I got to Coconuts, and asked the guy if I can get tickets for Soundgarden in Boston. He's like "Hold on.." so I'm WAITING and WAITING and the guy goes "The computer's kinda slow, it's gonna take a while." "Well, are their tickets available?" He mutters "yea" kinda unintelligibly. So I'm waiting and who comes behind the counter but my old friend Sam who I haven't seen in a couple years and I really turned him onto Soundgarden. So we're catching up on old times and exchanging phone numbers and he says that if he doesn't have to work then he's going to the show, too. And he ended up selling me my tickets.. and so I walked out of there with two tickets to Soundgarden at Brandeis University... :> :> :> Now all I have to do is tell my mother that I owe John forty-six dollars and I have to convince my dad to let me go (he's gonna HAVE to let me cause I got the tickets) :>. SO WHO ELSE IS GOING?!?!?!?!?! SETH!!!!!!!! SETH?!?!?! (in case you can't tell, I'm simply DYING to meet our listadmin) :> Well, everyone who's going to this shindig, by all means mail me and I want to meet all of you, damnit!!!! :> a very happy overfloater :> ------------------------------ From: spierce@mpls.k12.mn.us (Sandy Pierce) Subject: well now they better not come here... i got my hair, so now if soundgarden makes any tour dates here i won't have any money to go! ------------------------------ From: Sachin Trivedi Subject: Re: :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> Hey, I woke up at 9:15 to wait in line at the Tower records here and Boston, and got a ticket for the show!!! So I'm going to be there. Anyone else? Sachin On Sat, 21 Sep 1996 overfloater@thenexus.com wrote: > HEheheahhehaehehahehehaehea!!!!!!! > > > > I ' M G O I N G T O S E E S O U N D G A R D E N ! ! ! ! ! ! ! :> :> > > Well, let me tell you about my escapade.. I woke up and promptly called > Ticketmaster at 10am. It was busy. Very very busy. I ended up calling > Brandeis twice, and I couldn't get anything. So in a DESPERATE ATTEMPT > (hehehehe... one a my band's songs) I called my friend Johny D, who's > mother is SO NICE to drive us to Boston, that I'm payin for Johny's > ticket. Anyway.. I call him and blurt out, "Can I borrow fifty > dollars?" And he actually did :> So I went off to Coconuts, the > nearest Ticketmaster dealer people (I had my mom's credit card number, > so I was gonna order from the phone, but one has to pay cash only at > record stores, etc.) I was going bugshit because I thought it was going > to be sold out definitely. I got to Coconuts, and asked the guy if I > can get tickets for Soundgarden in Boston. He's like "Hold on.." so > I'm WAITING and WAITING and the guy goes "The computer's kinda slow, > it's gonna take a while." "Well, are their tickets available?" He > mutters "yea" kinda unintelligibly. So I'm waiting and who comes behind > the counter but my old friend Sam who I haven't seen in a couple years > and I really turned him onto Soundgarden. So we're catching up on old > times and exchanging phone numbers and he says that if he doesn't have > to work then he's going to the show, too. And he ended up selling me my > tickets.. and so I walked out of there with two tickets to Soundgarden > at Brandeis University... :> :> :> Now all I have to do is tell my > mother that I owe John forty-six dollars and I have to convince my dad > to let me go (he's gonna HAVE to let me cause I got the tickets) :>. > > SO WHO ELSE IS GOING?!?!?!?!?! SETH!!!!!!!! SETH?!?!?! > > (in case you can't tell, I'm simply DYING to meet our listadmin) :> > > Well, everyone who's going to this shindig, by all means mail me and I > want to meet all of you, damnit!!!! :> > > a very happy overfloater :> > > > ------------------------------ Subject: Re: :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> From: seth > SO WHO ELSE IS GOING?!?!?!?!?! SETH!!!!!!!! SETH?!?!?! > > (in case you can't tell, I'm simply DYING to meet our listadmin) :> No, I won't be going unless I can find someone to sell me a ticket, because I could not get through to Ticketmaster this morning. I dialed and dialed until my finers were bloody little stumps, to no avail. Fuck. seth ------------------------------ Subject: Re: :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> From: seth > > SO WHO ELSE IS GOING?!?!?!?!?! SETH!!!!!!!! SETH?!?!?! > > > > (in case you can't tell, I'm simply DYING to meet our listadmin) :> > > No, I won't be going unless I can find someone to sell me a ticket, > because I could not get through to Ticketmaster this morning. I dialed > and dialed until my finers were bloody little stumps, to no avail. (by the way, I meant my *fingers*, not my finers) But anyway, on a tip from Jessie, I just made a call, and I GOT TICKETS! So forget all of that stuff I said before. I'm going. :) seth ------------------------------ From: spierce@mpls.k12.mn.us (Sandy Pierce) Subject: no more idiotic posts sorry about my stupid post earlier. i was bored and needed something to write about. i wont do it anymore. oh, hmmm, soundgarden content.... i love soundgarden!!!! there i hope that's adequate. love you all you crazy soundgarden FANS (i think we are all "real" fans), amanda ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: Re: Professor Jesus Freak On Sat, 21 Sep 1996, Josh Broedel wrote: > > > > On Fri, 20 Sep 1996, Scroggin wrote: > > > > > FUCKING SHIT... in this situation im reminded of a quote , my friend > > > said right after 2pac dies.." well 2pac's dead , and Snoop has aids so > > > soon the world will be a better place." > > > > that comment is disgusting and has no place here. not to mention that > > it's racist, which makes it even WORSE (if possible). you don't like rap > > music? t hat's fine. that doesn't mean sentiments like this are > > appropriate. i may not like them either, but i hardly wish their death. > > Well caryn, im surprised at you...when you stop and think for a minute > before flaming anyone with an opinion, you might see that this might not be > racist, just another SG fan that doesn't like rap music, and all the > unnecessary violence associated with it. The 2-pac death is a perfect > example. I don't think the world will ever see Chris Cornell gunned down > by Jonathan Davis just because their record companies don't like each > other. For christ sakes, caryn, we are suposed to be a family here, not > some dysfunctional band of maniacs who can't agree on anything. > the rest of your post, as most of yours are, was very well thought out > and chock full of sage remarks ;>) but your constant flaming is just going > to get everyone pissed at you. this wasn't a flame. again, i do not like most rap music any more, i used to very much, and again, while i do not like these people's music or their thoughts or way of life, i do NOT wish their death. that is not my place, not my right. i felt that the comments had a racist tone, the individual in question has yet to defend or comment on his words, so perhaps there was some truth to that. and it is my right to say so. period. and it is your right to disagree with me, and say so. but this was not a flame. and i really could care less if i 'get everyone pissed at me'. because one, that's not going to happen, and two, so what? why is this list just full of men trying to tell women what to do and what to say and how to post???? - --caryn ------------------------------ From: overfloater@thenexus.com Subject: Re: :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> :> : SA>> > SO WHO ELSE IS GOING?!?!?!?!?! SETH!!!!!!!! SETH?!?!?! SA>> > SA>> > (in case you can't tell, I'm simply DYING to meet our listadmin) :> SA>> SA>> No, I won't be going unless I can find someone to sell me a ticket, SA>> because I could not get through to Ticketmaster this morning. I dialed SA>> and dialed until my finers were bloody little stumps, to no avail. SA>(by the way, I meant my *fingers*, not my finers) SA>But anyway, on a tip from Jessie, I just made a call, and I GOT SA>TICKETS! So forget all of that stuff I said before. I'm going. SA>:) Woohoo!!!! :> We're gonna have to like umm all meat, er, meet up. :> I can't friggin wait :> This is gonna be the coolest thing since I met Shroom in TX. :> :> BTW, Shroom, where the hell are u?? :> ------------------------------ From: Michael Groark Subject: Brandies Show If anyone didn't get tickets to the Brandies show, I might have extras. Also if anyone knows how to get to Waltham from Boston, let me know. Rock on! ------------------------------ From: Vassilis Theoharis Subject: Re:and you've got nothing to say... Just a few words to end this silly subject: @I don't like Bush, Oasis, Silverchair,... and I do know Mudhoney, Green River... I didn't buy Superuknown first, but Badmotorfinger. And I know that these statements are common for a lot of people in the list. So when HE accuses and attacks everybody the way HE did, HE just makes a stupid generalisation; and this generalisation is one of the worst ways of thinking, not because I say so, but because sociology teaches that. (like: all black people are something or all the people in the list are assholes who like Soundgarden and Oasis and stupid arguments like these) @He may has a point but FUCK YOU is not a good way to express it or persuade me. @He does not have a point because JAMC and Sebadoh and Sonic Youth are not alternative any more because everybody knows them and their music has become sort of mainstream. @The point is not what you KNOW but what you feel/get/learn... @If anyone FEELs/GETs/LEARNs... something from bands (no matter how alternative/unknown/underground/low profile or whatever) the best thing to do is to try to share it with other people by informing them. There are a lot of people everywhere_even in lists_that are able and willing to experiment and open their minds. Just by trying to feel superior to others, [using music] is unacceptable for me. @I could write a long list with bands that some of you do not know {captain beefheart, extreme noise terror, minor threat, fu manchu...}; Will this make me cool to you, Mr Bortnik? @Steven and Deb, I understand what you are trying to say; but opinions are like shit; everyboby 's got one. Both of you for example are clear; but HE ,!"#$^^%&())+~~}{@!"$^(,,```,$6 @Sorry for the long message! ------------------------------ Subject: incessant mace From: Ben Timberlake I was just looking at the tape on which I have my UltramegaOK and Hater dubs. It's a Fuji Extraslim DR-II. The little spindle holders on the case are shaped like the S logo from UMOK. It gave me a little chuckle and I thought I would share. -- Ben Ben Timberlake Why doesn't anyone Northwestern University believe in loneliness? Medill School of Journalism ***btimlake@nwu.edu*** -30- http://pubweb.acns.nwu.edu/~bft718 "I miss you already. I miss you always." -- Pearl Jam, "Smile" ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: no declaration of conformity here... On Sat, 21 Sep 1996, Geoff Kleemola wrote: > Also when I saw them live in '94, Ben charged through Matt's kit at the > end of the set. Do they still do this? you saw this in 94, geoff? I remember reading that ben did the same thing on the lolla tour of 1992 (very soon after he joined the band), because he thought that the band was getting a little too high on themeselves. my memory is foggy, but I think ben thought he was going to get thrown out of the band for hurling himself into matt's kit. not surprisingly, the band loved it and clapped him on the back. I just wonder how often matt would want his cymbals crashing down around his ears? something long-overdue happened last friday - I bought fast stories...from kid coma. that mysterious and far out woman from south australia mailed me a tape of the first truly long-player, and I was impressed from the get-go, and had to buy it last week when I saw it for only $21. now I seem to like it more and more every time I listen to the damn thing. it is an *amazing* album, one I should have been listening to a long time ago. the music is very spacy; hypnotic but still with a garage quality to it (even though it's produced by the team of adam kasper, john agnello and jon auer). to me there are a lot of parallels between this record and the hater one. not clean by any stretch of the imagination, but still entirely listenable. it's a little weird, because I heard the heart and lungs ep, and didn't really like it (sort of like when I first heard the hater record, and only really liked matt's roll towards the end of blistered). maybe I'll have to buy it now :) after hiro left, I think soundgarden's music changed quite a bit. this wasn't something I was able to pin down before, but now that I hear fast stories, I can understand what hiro's part in sg's sound was. I think the original trippiness of their earlier stuff on ultramega and screaming life (let's face it, the band they first were) owed a lot to hiro's musicianship.. in terms of song-writing, I think that kim has always leaned further to the "metal" side, and so has matt (although to a lesser degree recently). chris, on the other hand, seems to be able to write in a lot of styles, but writes straighter songs than hiro ever did. that's why I think ben, with songs like head down and switch opens, was the perfect replacement for hiro. but also in a cool way, I think ben could switch places with hiro now, and truly would still sound pretty much the same. anyhow, back to the truly record. if you already own it, and have owned it for a long time, I applaud you. but if you haven't tried truly out yet, I strongly suggest you do so soon. there are some great songs (blue flame ford, soul slasher, hot summer 1991 and chlorine), and even though they couldn't be thought of as soundgarden songs you can imagine sg playing them. if you like hater or swirly yet trashy music, then you should find the album (now that the wellwater album won't be out (damn lawyers to hell!) till january next year). ok, the ad is over now :) ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide - words by kim thayil ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: "Luck's Last Match" Subject: Re: fobd tab, poetas de musica. On Sat, 21 Sep 1996, Luck's Last Match wrote: > Well, back to sg content....everyone hear about Kyle Petty? They tried > to charge him with hit and run and reckless driving, when in reality, it > wasn't even legally reckless driving...reduced to a lesser charge and > paid off a $65 fine....imagine charging son of richard with reckless > driving...he might be coming up on their right... What a dumbass....that was Richard Petty....what a dumbass... (Yall realize that i am responding to myself, and in effect, just called myself a dumbass...) So i guess there was no SG content there.... Lo siento. Um, let's see, i should put some SG content in here....Yesterday was a Saturday afternoon before a football game and so my whole sweet decided to broadcast their music...so i put in Supermainstream, and then my taped copy of Freash Deadly Rarities....They weren't loud enough until i started singing along. ;) I like my new RA. He doesn't care about noise.... -j "Stand up and everyone will see your holiness" -Soundgarden. ------------------------------ From: overfloater@thenexus.com Subject: uhm list i didnt get any mail at all last night... where iz everyone? :> also, i was hanging otu with a friend of mine last night (who dont like sg, but respects the fact that I do at least) and he said that he has an interview with chris cornell on tape and that chris seems arrogant.. like "i know i'm really good" and all that jazz... i dont know that i agree with that.. maybe just cause I think chris is GOD.. but i mean, he IS good, he's unbelievable, so why not think that? :> it's great to believe in yourself, and i think chris does, but i don't think it's to an extent where he thinks he kicks ass and everyone else sucks (but hey then again i do think chris kicks ass, but i dont think everyone else SUCKS) well anyway, what do you think? :> ------------------------------ From: Geoff Kleemola Subject: Re: no declaration of conformity here... On Sun, 22 Sep 1996, blind dog wrote: > you saw this in 94, geoff? I remember reading that ben did the > same thing on the lolla tour of 1992 (very soon after he joined the band), Yeah, but there's sort of a story to it. It was obvious that the band was not impressed with the crowd. Not that we/they were roudy, but quite the opposite. Everybody in the stands was sitting down! Chris made various comments and unsuccessful attempts to get everybody to stand up. They finished their set, and came back for an encore. They started playing Black Hole Sun and Chris said "Come on! Get up!", and finally most of the crowd stood up. They only played one more song after that, at which point Ben charged through the drumkit. My conclusion is that Ben did that so that they would not, could not, play another song. Sort of like punishment for the crowd. Now I'm interested in this. How many people have seen shows in which they have trashed the drumkit?? Geoff ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 2 Issue 251] ****************************************