From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Friday, 13 Sep 1996 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 02:27:00 EDT Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Friday, 13 Sep 1996 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: Happy Belated Birthday Alive From the Superunknown chicago..... :> Did anyone hear? RE: :> Re: my theroy on SOMMS. Chris Cornell wallet MTV Vid awards '96 Re: SOUNDGARDEN in NYC Chicago Bound! clarification re comment about chicago new sommster HELP NEED INFO! the Devil, blah blah Re: Unusual Request (Sorry, no SG content) Aughhh! caryn's comment and a dumb question rolling stone pic Re: Chris Cornell wallet Seth's birthday Re: Ignorance Chris Cornell Wallet Re: my theroy on SOMMS. BUTOW and Johnny Cash *SOB* WHY DOES THIS *ALWAYS* HAPPEN TO ME??? Pigeonhead ..... Are they gonna come yet?? opening acts...finally! Re: my theroy on SOMMS. soundgarden *blush* Smoking cigars, drinking red meat..... TM Re: and I learned that I was a liar... ------------------------------------------------------------ From: ANGELA.DRUM@firstunion.com Subject: Happy Belated Birthday TO: Softswitch.OAS FROM: ANGELA.DRUM@TAOFUN1 SUBJECT: Happy Belated Birthday Well, as usual, I'm a day late and a dollar short. I'm a "Digest" girl, so I didn't find out about Seth's birthday until today. So - Seth...HAPPY BIRTHDAY]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] You do such a tremendous service for all of us pour souls out here. You should win an award or something] As for Chris looking a little thin lately, I remember when I saw them back in 94 Chris was a little thin then. But when I saw them this year at Lolla, he looked REALLY thin - and I was far away. Anyway, I came into these awesome photos from that show, (which one of these days - SOON - I'm sending to Seth) and he looks absolutely GAUNT. Just terrible. He's still as gorgeous as ever though. Wonder what's up.....nerves perhaps? Also - kind of non-SG related: Did anyone else hear about Pearl Jam doing either Letterman or the Tonight Show (can't remember which) on September 20th, if I remember correctly. Apparently the show has to air without commercials because.... - well duh. Anyway, is this some kind of hoax or is it for real? Anyone? Well, must to go. Must get SOME work done today. Again, Seth - HHHHAAAPPPPPPPPYYYYY BIRTHDAY]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] "We're Frowngarden. We frown upon everything." - C.Cornell Ciao babies....... Ang ------------------------------ From: ANGELA.DRUM@firstunion.com Subject: Alive From the Superunknown TO: Softswitch.OAS FROM: ANGELA.DRUM@TAOFUN1 SUBJECT: Alive From the Superunknown I have a question. In the last issue of Rockabilia, under domestic rock music videos, there's a new SG video "Alive From the Superunknown". This is in addition to Louder Than Live and Motorvision. It's not a bootleg, as there is a separate section for those. I called to get more info, but they really didn't give me any useful information. Apparently it's new, it's an official release, and it's on backorder. It is NOT the CD-Rom, it's a VHS video. It goes for $24.98. Does anyone know anything about this????? ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: chicago..... well, it's an omen: after a phone call from andrea earlier today, i picked up the phone to call tm chicago at the very same moment a sg lunch time music block came on the radio. cheap airfare, a ticket for sunday. all i need is one for SATURDAY and i'm set (hint, hint). c'mon ... you know your lame friends aren't going to get their shit together, give your tickets to US, the KTMS Mobile Squad! - --caryn ------------------------------ From: overfloater@thenexus.com Subject: :> I haven't gotten any mail this morning, WTF is going on? That's not why I'm writing though :> I found a review of Feeling Minnesota in my paper today, check otu the last paragraph: "Not a lot can be said about the convoluted story without spoiling several surprises, many of which stretch credibility to absurd lengths. The title comes from a Soundgarden song, "Outshined," with its lament of "looking California and feeling Minnesota." Whether one finds the picture good for a laugh or a cringe, it is assuredly never boring." I dont even know what that means :> But at least they mentioned Soundgarden, which is something in itself. ------------------------------ From: Mark Miller Subject: Did anyone hear? Did any other San Diego sommsters hear Dave from the Dave, Shelly and Chainsaw morning show on 105.3 call CC a heroin junkie on the basis of the BHS video today? It reminds me why I hate human beings so much. Quick to judge, slow to change. They have a web page and you can let them know how much you love their show if you are into that thing. email them through Chris Boyer at boyer@maximumaccess.com Mark ------------------------------ From: "Phelan, Kate" Subject: RE: :> Yes, I don't know what that means, either. And, is it a "lament"? Is it a sorrowful thing to look CA but feel MN? "I just looked in the mirror, and things aren't looking so good...." Geez, I guess it is a lament. kaitlin ---------- I found a review of Feeling Minnesota in my paper today, check out the last paragraph: "Not a lot can be said about the convoluted story without spoiling several surprises, many of which stretch credibility to absurd lengths. The title comes from a Soundgarden song, "Outshined," with its lament of "looking California and feeling Minnesota." Whether one finds the picture good for a laugh or a cringe, it is assuredly never boring." I dont even know what that means :> But at least they mentioned Soundgarden, which is something in itself. ------------------------------ From: Cornell Subject: Re: my theroy on SOMMS. I took this to mean: Satan oscillate my metallic sonatas The devil spins my metallic songs Get it? They're saying that that the devil listens to SG kinda funny, no? I thought it was Gregg BTW: Literal meaning of sonatas: musical (as opposed to lyrical) compositions On Sat, 24 Aug 1996, Scroggin wrote: > ok, by now im sure we all know what SOMMS means , > satanoscilatemymetalicsonatas > > but what does that "really" mean , i have a theroy , > > satan= devil, lucifer, > > oscilate= to control or make move > > my= (self explanitory) > > metalic= any thing metal, namely guns, knives, swords, or heavy metal > music > > sonatas= a musical thing such as a symphony > > so put them all together and we get.........the devil, controls, my, > metalic , performance of music > so i think that Kim here is trying to tell us that the devil is > telling him something. and the fact that its a palidrome makes it 10 > times better > > all comments are welcome on this and if possible, mabey someone could > get Kim to verify this for me. > -- > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > -what is democracy???? > -i believe it has something to do with sending > young men off to die. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ------------------------------ From: BdMtrFngr Subject: Chris Cornell wallet Anyone else on the list have a wallet made of duct tape that Chris makes and all the guys have and use? I recently made one, but mine is silver, supposedly his is black..I never saw black duct tape, oh well whatever. ------------------------------ From: "Steven Russell Jr." Subject: MTV Vid awards '96 Hey List After watching a few seconds of the MTV awards again... I noticed that the background animation during the beginning of the award nominee clips was the brick 'sewer' tunnel shots from the "Superunknown" video. Did anyone catch this? Steve ------------------------------ From: Moonsta693@aol.com Subject: Re: SOUNDGARDEN in NYC AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA. I couldn't believe it, I was getting ready for school, and I heard it. I went runing downt he stairs screaming, I was so happy. Hopefully, If I get the tix before they sell out(I hope not)that would be my Christams gift. Now my parents can't say no, 'cause a show is on SAt. I could take the bus too, 'cause It's close to the authority! Just pray that my parents say yes. As soon as I get off, I'm callin' My best friend Rachel(Chrissy's wife in th afterlife)and tell her the good news, and also begg, plead, and beg my parents over and over! the original preety noose ------------------------------ From: COCHRAN_BONNIE/SBCTC@ctc.ctc.edu Subject: Chicago Bound! For those of you out there who have their Chicago tickets, or know what I'm talking about, I have a question. I just got my ticket for the Nov. 10 show today (Yaaaay!!!). It says the section is GA (which I thought the whole venue was GA) but it also shows a row and seat number. Does that mean anything at all?? So, I'm happy! I have my ticket in hand, possibly a flight for $86 cheaper than my first inquiry AND hubby has given his approval (you read right Candy and Jamie, I WILL be there)!. Yeah right, like I needed his approval anyway, but hey, it's a whole lot easier going without a small war on my hands!! I'm also looking for a ticket to the Saturday night show as well, if anyone knows anything. AND I'm looking forward to meeting all the Chicago area sommsters and the others who are coming in from all points east and west!! I was out yesterday and was surprised this morning to find out about the Utah and New York shows. Does anyone have a clue as to the method being used to schedule and announce these US dates? Anyone asked the fan club? It seems a little strange to me, but what do I know? Bonnie ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: clarification re comment about chicago i said.. << cheap airfare, a ticket for sunday. all i need is one for SATURDAY and i'm set (hint, hint). c'mon ... you know your lame friends aren't going to get their shit together >> since some people are obviously WAY too uptight lately, let me clarify this statement PUBLICLY. i was ***jokingly*** referring to NON-SOMMS friends of chicago residents who have bought tickets. this was after an email from someone who said that s/he is still waiting to see if his/her friend(s) (in fact, i think they themselves MIGHT have used the word 'lame'). they were referring to LOCAL, REAL-LIFE, NON-SOMMS friends, people they hang out with and probably said 'yeah, sure get me a ticket', but then didn't have the money to give them... this was NOT NOT NOT NOT a comment on ANYONE on this list, a diss on ANYONE'S friends, rl, irc, somms, non-somms, i don't know what. this is really making me regret buying a ticket. gang, if you have a problem with what i said, write and ask me. i may be loud and obnoxious, but i'm not the royal bitch from hell on wheels. stop assuming that. and the worst thing was, this came from people who know me and i THOUGHT were friends. i guess not. - --caryn ------------------------------ From: Deborah Baker <106314.1470@compuserve.com> Subject: new sommster From Deborah Baker 106314.1470@CompuServe.com Hi to all you sommsters and belated birthday greetings to Seth. I'm a newbie to pc's and the net (but not Soundgarden!) and have been lurking through(at?) this mailing list for a few weeks now. Hi Shrroom! Anyway, I just wanted you to know that I have tons of SG articles from 1989 onwards that aren't on Seth's page, so when I get the hang of this thing I will send them all to Seth. It's not always easy to get US mags here apart from Rolling Stone so if some enterprising individual can post the article from Request (Oct 94) and maybe the infamous Sassy interview (!)I would be very grateful. Get Seth to put them on the articles page so everyone can see them! Now, which button do I press now...? ------------------------------ From: Cornell Subject: HELP NEED INFO! Hello I need a little info on the SG shows at Roseland. I apologize if this is on th epage, but i'm having probs w/Netscape Ok here goes: Date: Nov 15, 16 Price: What is the price of the tix? Time: What time? Can anyone help me out here? What time do you guys think they'll be sold out by? (i have to go to school) Anyway, please reply to my address because I'm unsubbed from the list while i catch up on the 1400 messages in my mailbox. Thank you. Gregg ------------------------------ From: Cornell Subject: the Devil, blah blah Anwway, to address some concerns about Kim being a devil worshipper: My bandmates and I kid about the devil a lot. We're not devil worshippers however. Some examples: Date's Father: Do you worship the devil in your band? Dave (guitarist): No, Satan told me never to talk about him in my songs. Dave (answering phone): Hello? Dan (bassist): This is Satan. I need your soul. Dave (talking to woman): No, our mom's Satan. Woman: No, she's not! Dave: Dan, is mommy the devil? Dan: Uh-huh Gregg: I think this college should accept me because I'm the spawn of the devil. End of story. Anyway, I'm a God fearing kinda guy, and Dan and Dave aren't into Devil-worshippers either. We just like to kid about it to kinda shock people. Besides, it's not like he's gonna come up here and claim my soul for his.... AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!! Just kidding, Gregg ------------------------------ From: Cornell Subject: Re: Unusual Request (Sorry, no SG content) This may be a little late but..... YOU'RE GETTING HOSED!!!!! I get $15 (soon to be $20) a month: Unlimited Web Access E-mail 10 megs for user homepages (no xtra fee) Lots of other cool stuff On Wed, 28 Aug 1996, Miguel G. Vrolijk wrote: > Greetings! I'm new to the Net and to this list, and I've a special request for you, so > please bear with me! > > Our Internet Service Provider (who happens to be our state-owned > telecommunications monopoly here in Aruba) is about to change their rates. > Presently, our rate is: US$ 28.57 p/month, unlimited access, US$ 1.10 > p/hour on non-peak hours. > > The new rates (as per September) will be as follows: > > Rate 1: US$ 14.29 p/month, 5 hours free access, US$ 5.14 for each add. hour > Rate 2: US$ 28.57 p/month, 15 hours free access, US$ 3.77 for each add. hour > Rate 3: US$ 57.14 p/month, 40 hours free access, US$ 3.43 for each add. hour > > (Including a one-time US$ 14.29 subscription fee) > > Can you please e-mail to me the rates applying to you? I need this > information in order to launch a protest campaign against the *&%@# ISP of ours. I > wont use your names a/o e-mail addresses. > > I'll make sure my next post will be SG related. Thanks! (BTW great list!) > > > "Hoping to see SG perform live before I meet My Maker" - Miguel > ------------------------------ From: "Joseph E \"Gene\" Candelaria" Subject: Aughhh! You lucky so and so's! I hope this makes the last few week's weather a little more bearable. http://www.ticketmaster.com/events/PERFORMANCES/SOUNDGARDEN/NY/ Our fault line just cracked so I know they gotta be on their way here too. Come on and rock Southern Cal!!!! - -- ; > Joseph E. "Gene" Candelaria http://www.inland.net/~sunishun "Fill the bucket with whatever you got" ----Meat Puppets "Bucket Head" ------------------------------ From: Monica Lewis Subject: caryn's comment and a dumb question Hey Caryn, I don't know about anyone else but I didn't take what you said as a slam or anything. And I don't think you should cancel your plans just because a handful of people are in a bad mood. Just hang out with those of us who want to have fun and aren't trying to be soooooo serious. (Friday the 13th is coming up, maybe that's affecting people.) Anyway, I still am looking forward to meeting all you guys in Chicago. Next, i have a dumb question - - maybe. You know, I was thinking, the woman in the bathtub with the dog in the BHS video looks a lot like the one and only Susan Silver. Does anyone else think that's her? (Maybe you guys already discussed this and I missed it, but please enlighten me.) See ya. Monnica ------------------------------ From: ADDC Subject: rolling stone pic I saw the that new Rolling Stone that people have been talking about. (Man, that picture of Conan 0'Brien is *the funniest* picture I have *ever* seen in my life..I laughed for 10 minutes straight) Anyhoo, seeing Chris with Joey Ramone was cool but he does look skinnier and a little pale. Was that a damn wine bottle in his hand? I am officially worried about the man. He honestly looks sick or something. C'mon Susan, whip your man back into shape. You know what would make a great T-shirt? You know the Rolling Stone cover picture with the whole band in black and white. I can't remember the exact date of the issue but it is on Seth's page. Anyway, imagine that pic on a white t-shirt. Wear a pair of blue jeans and you are all set. That would be very cool. I am seriously thinking about making a shirt like this. Only problem is that I have no idea where to begin. Hey wait, maybe Nothingman knows how to make and design a t-shirt.... nah, nevermind, he is probably uh busy or something. anyway, that's all I got. Vincent UT-Dallas ------------------------------ From: Scroggin Subject: Re: Chris Cornell wallet BdMtrFngr wrote: > > Anyone else on the list have a wallet made of duct tape that Chris makes > and all the guys have and use? I recently made one, but mine is silver, > supposedly his is black..I never saw black duct tape, oh well whatever. yup, i got the wallet , so does my friend . But like you both of ours are silver duct tape , mabey he uses black electrical tape. ? - -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "Just because your winning , don't mean your the lucky one." - axl. rose ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ------------------------------ From: Heather Aston Subject: Seth's birthday first off, could we quit all this carping about the list administrator's birthday? sure, it might be warm and cuddly and everything, but does it really have anything to do with soundgarden? ok, so he might be a good webmaster. he might be a better than average list admin. he could even be passable on the viola (but that is a stretch). but please, no more talk about his 21st birthday. it goes against list policy, and is really getting out of hand. How can you be so mean spirited? Seth has done so much for us-the list, the page. Any little thing we ask for him to add to the page, he does, pretty much. People want to congratualate him on this milestone in his life. Is there really something wrong with that? ------------------------------ From: Scroggin Subject: Re: Ignorance Seth Ward wrote: > > I have been sitting here for the past 1/2 hour or so, reading all of > these tasty tidbits about SG, thinkin', "Alright, there's actually people > out there that are as crazy/obsessed about this band as I am. Maybe, I'm not > just a fruitcake." Well, maybe I didn't get that excited, but right at the > point where I was feelin' pretty good, this girl in the next little cubicle > leans over and goes, "Oh cool, isn't SG that new Black Hole Sun band?" I > could've cried. Was this an isolated incident, or does this happen a lot to > you people out there? > This list is going to be my support group against idiots like that. > A different Seth AHHHHHHH.... SWEET MARY MOTHER OF GOD , GREAT CEASARS GHOST , (and other expelatives) my god , if anyone ever said that to me they would have to remove my hands from their throat. I hope none of the people on the list ever have to face the horror of hearing that and my deepest wishes go out to you on your recovery. - -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "Just because your winning , don't mean your the lucky one." - axl. rose ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ------------------------------ From: Kathy Toth Subject: Chris Cornell Wallet I was wondering if whoever made the wallet out of duck tape could please tell me how you went about making it! Thanks a BUNCH+++ Brian ------------------------------ From: Heather E Jackson Subject: Re: my theroy on SOMMS. > > telling him something. and the fact that its a palidrome makes it 10 > > times better Okay, hate to be the grammatical bitch, SOMMS is not a palindrome....a palindrome has to read the same backwards and forwards "SMMOS" is not the same...just so you know. Heather "waiting for the onslaught of hate mail" Newstead ------------------------------ From: sean@ramoth.unl.edu (Sean McCarthy) Subject: BUTOW and Johnny Cash Hey All- First off, happy belated Seth, ahh....the ability to purchase alcohol is such a liberating experience :) I haven't written in a while cause I don't have any thoughts about SG that I haven't already shared, until today. I was listening to 'Down on the Upside'-has anyone gradually grown into this album like me? Anyway, I used to think Chris could have written better lyrics to 'Blow up the Outside World', then as usual, with a couple good brews, I began to picture the song in other levels. Like.. What if Johnny Cash were to sing this song? It seems tailor made for Cash to sing. Just that bible belt on acid voice. The lyrics don't need to be more complex 'cause Cornell sings them like they're supposed to be sung. It sound weird, but too few times we have artists that do that. Dylan is a brilliant songwriter, but a singer? Cornell has that balance I think. Not comparing the both, too long to do that, just an observation. My thoughts Peace Sean PS-Grote, we must have brews again! So it is written .... ------------------------------ From: overfloater@thenexus.com Subject: *SOB* WHY DOES THIS *ALWAYS* HAPPEN TO ME??? - -- [ From: Soundgarden * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] -- Sorry, no shows outside the NYC shows @ Roseland. As of now, we do not have the go ahead to release the complete list of tour dates for the US. The rest of the shows should be confirmed sometime next week. At that time we will post the whole thing. We can tell you the opening acts will be Rocket From The Crypt and Tenderloin. Ciao, KOTS - -------- REPLY, Original message follows -------- Date: Thursday, 12-Sep-96 03:49 PM From: overfloater@thenexus.com \ Internet: (overfloater@thenexus.com) To: Soundgarden \ Internet: (sgfc@speakeasy.org) Subject: hey.. Sorry to bother you, but I'm going bugshit here :> Umm.. there's rumors abound of SG shows being confirmed, including one in NYC, and well, I was wondering if there was anyplace closer to Albany that SG might be playing (PLEEEEEEEASE), or perhaps a list of tour dates? Inquiring minds wanna know !!! :> - -------- REPLY, End of original message -------- ARRRRRRG!!! I have to call my mother and tell her to get me tickets for this for a birthday present cause I have no money right now and I have to go see Soundgarden in NYC!!!! I'll be able to drive down there myself cause I'll be 18 then, but the question is will my dad let me??? :> Anyway, ARGG!!!!!!! Anyway, did you know that about Rocket From The Crypt and Tenderloin? WHO ARE THEY? I HAVE TO CALL MY MOTHER. ARG!!!! ------------------------------ From: vman@ctdnet.acns.nwu.edu (Vasant Ramamurthy) Subject: Pigeonhead Hey guys, is the Pigeonhead CD worth getting? What does it sound like? Vasant ****************************************************************************** THE REFUGE OF THE DAMNED - Check out lots o' music stuff here!! http://ctdnet.acns.nwu.edu/~vman/me.html vman@ctdnet.acns.nwu.edu "When new damage comes, it's a new word for plague, a new world order, a new word for hate" - New Damage - Soundgarden ------------------------------ From: overfloater@thenexus.com Subject: ..... i go to all the trouble of callign my mother, telling her to get me two tickets for sg's NYC show, cause i have NO money now and it's right around my birthday anyway, so happy birthday right? and i tell my dad about it. i'm gonna be 18 4 days before the show, so i can legally drive down there and everything (new york has the dumbest driving law ever invented.. if you are under 18 years of age and have your license you can't drive past 9pm.) ok, and i have a car. great, i have a car, i wont get arrested for driving that late, let's get in the goddam car and go. but nooo.. "no, you can't go to the show." "why not?" "because you can't." REALLY good fucking reasoning, right? "what if i get a ride?" "no." "why not?" "because you can't." at this point, i'm ready to kill. "what if i get a ride?" "as long as i know em." oh thats just fucking wonderful, isnt it? it just about covers the goddam waterfront. now, if i had any friends who are soundgarden fans, i could get down there no sweat. but the only other person i know from around here who listens to them is all of 15 years old. and he's not even really a big fan. my options are to tell the parental units to fuck off and go anyway, and bring all my possessions with me because i can just forget about coming back, or i can beg my 15 year old friends' mother to drive us down there (i'm buying his ticket so i can have someone to go see em with, why not?) you sommsters who don't have assholes for parents have no clue how lucky you are. i'd love to have my freedom even if it meant paying the goddam bills. money is a small price to pay for sanity. it really pisses me off that there's no one i can turn to on this one, and even when i could do the whole goddam thing myself, i can't, why not? "because you can't." oh ya, really fucking swell, eh? ------------------------------ From: Jentje Subject: Are they gonna come yet?? Okay, seems to me like lots of people in scattered towns across the US will be able to see Soundgarden soon... Whne are they comming to (or close to) Canada?? We're big Soundgarden lovers too!!! I supposed it would kinda be pushing it to ask if they could also come to towns that are NOT the size of Toronto, Vancouver, Montr=E9al....Hey, here's an idea how about= Sudbury??? anyhow, I'm off track, if anybody hears anything about them comming somewhere in or near Ontario, could you let me know? Toodles!!=20 ~>Jenn ------------------------------ From: Eliza J Polly Subject: opening acts...finally! Cool.....very psyched to see RFTC! >We can tell you the opening acts will be Rocket From >The Crypt and Tenderloin. ------------------------------ From: overfloater@thenexus.com Subject: Re: my theroy on SOMMS. HE>> > telling him something. and the fact that its a palidrome makes it 10 HE>> > times better HE>Okay, hate to be the grammatical bitch, SOMMS is not a palindrome....a HE>palindrome has to read the same backwards and forwards "SMMOS" is not HE>the same...just so you know. No, you dont understand :> See, SOMMS is short for Satanoscillatemymetallicsonatas, which you see reads the same forward and over and over and back, but we dont wanna type out Satanoscillatemymetallicsonatas 50,000 times... so.. SOMMS for short.. dig? :> ------------------------------ From: m9412049@polaris.unisc.br (Gilson Helfer) Subject: soundgarden SOUNDGARDEN eh a melhor banda que existe no mundo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Gostaria de saber quando SOUNDGARDEN vem ao Brasil. Aguardo respostas que serao benvindas. Obrigado. ..........Translating......... SOUNDGARDEN is the best band in the world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! When SOUNDGARDEN comes in the Brazil. Expect well come reply. Thanks. My e-mail: m9412049@cquim.unisc.br My name is Gilson Augusto Helfer from Brazil. ------------------------------ From: overfloater@thenexus.com Subject: *blush* Sorry for my earlier rant, but I'm sure you've all felt the same way when your parental units tell you you can't go to the Soundgarden show just "because you can't." *blush* Anyway, the reason I write is because, if I do end up going to this shindig, (Roseland, is that the name of ti? Close enough) How big is this place, I'm curious. And there is a kinda good chance that I can get the ride down there because that friend of mine's mom, she's REALLY nice. So I'm hoping, anyway. But do tell. And sorry again. ------------------------------ From: ASDrum@aol.com Subject: Smoking cigars, drinking red meat..... Hello all.......... Aleko wrote: <> I have heard him sing Slaves & Bulldozers many times, live and on tape, and he nails it EVERY TIME. Whenever he gets to that part, I get extremely anxious, thinking "oh God, his voice is going to crack", and it never does. But I know what you guys are talking about, his "live" voice is just not as great as his recorded voice. But I feel it's due to a few things, #1 being when you have to sing like that, night after night, that puts a LOT of strain on your vocal cords. With Superunknown, he realized (with a little help from Michael Beinhorn), that he didn't have to "scream and wail", like you guys said, to sound good. But live, he still has to cover songs from BMF - and Chris never holds back - to his own detriment. Another thing that is not good on his vocal cords - which has already been brought up on the list a few times - is his smoking. Sad but true. (<---I'm hearing Metallica). Anyway, I used to sing in my younger days, and I was good, until I started smoking and I shot my voice to shit. Oh sure, I can still carry a tune, and I sing better than Courtney Love (I like Hole BTW), but I can not SING sing, and I quit smoking a while ago. And Chris is a SINGER, not a rock star like an Axl or a Trent (which I also like). Which is to say, he could be like a Tony Bennett or a Harry Connick Jr, if those styles were to his liking. Am I making sense here??? (yes - I hear a resounding "NNNOOO!!!"). I mean, he's an extremely talented VOCALIST (yes, in addition to amazing songwriting abilities), and he should take care of his voice.....which I don't feel he does. (You know, smoking cigars and drinking red meat is simply NOT ENOUGH). Shawn wrote: <<.... Now here is where it gets weird. Theyre playing in a very small "arena". Saltaire only holds around 3,000. Last time they played in this area they played in front of over 8,000 (Ogden, golden spike arena). I cant figure this out--have they really lost that much popularity?>>> First of all, I have to say YOU LUCKY ASS!!! You're getting to see them, and I'm not. As for the "small" arena, well, that's good for YOU. I don't think their supposed waning popularity has much to do with it though. When I saw them in 94, at the height of their Superunknown popularity, they played their only show in South Florida at a 4,000 seat theatre. It was sold out too. Don't know what happened with that one, because at that time I think they said they were playing minimum 6,000 seats. Anyway, it was the MOST awesome show. I was right in the front row and it was reserved seating. Security was EXTREMELY tight, with any moshers or body surfers getting their asses promptly kicked out. I was right in front of Ben the whole time, and he didn't spit on me once! In fact, no matter what anyone says about Ben, I will always think he is just beautiful, because you know what he did? Well, they opened with JCP, and as always he had his bass hanging really low, and the stage was only about four feet high, so he hangs his bass over the side of the stage, right in front of me and 2 people next to me, and LET'S US PLAY!!! Is that amazing? We were strumming on Ben's bass!!! My proudest moment. He must have let us play it for about 20 seconds, Ben just holding it there. It was TOO COOL. So I can officially say that I played Jesus Christ Pose live with Soundgarden. (Don't you want my autograph now?!) All my husband has to say about it (he was there) is "very good honey, I'm happy for you". My little sister says "that's very nice Ang". ARGH! They can't even work up a LITTLE excitement. But that's OK, cuz I have YOU guys now, , friends, who care about me and will put up with all my Soundgarden bullshit, (and who are probably all saying "shut the fuck up already"). One last thing and then I WILL shut up. Black Hole Sun came on the radio today, and for the first time I noticed that the guitar intro sounds almost like the intro to Nirvana's Heart Shaped Box. Has anyone else ever noticed that? You people have suffered enough. I'll go now. "We're Frowngarden. We frown upon everything." C.Cornell Ciao babies! Ang ------------------------------ From: Cornell Subject: TM Call me a dickhead, but. . . I was kinda relieved that SG wasn't on the 25 most popular concert list at the TM site. Are tix still availavle for the Chicago show? Gregg ------------------------------ From: The Guitarist-2001 Subject: Re: and I learned that I was a liar... At 12:21 AM 9/12/96 +0000, Blind Dog wrote: > what do other listers think? is the video version of fell on black >days better than the original? I'd have to go with the original. as cool >as it is to hear the band play the song in (I think) just one take, I'm >not sure that the reworked lyric melody really suits the song. Well...in most aspects I'll probably also have to go with the original, but there are some things I do like better about the video version: 1 - Guitarwork . . mostly . . . 2 - The pause after the guitar solo. It's a longer pause than on the original, and I really like it that way better . . . gives you a second to catch your breath after another one of Kim Thayil's mighty guitar solos . . . and the way he goes back into the chorus from that pause . . . especially with the video, I like that camera shot that goes with it . . . . . . ok . . . so "some"=2 . . . oh well . . . > >> Yes that is a good point and i did consider the fact that he is playing guitar >> now. BTW how good is Chris as a guitarist, could he play in a good band on >> the strength of his guitar playing alone? > > I couldn't say, because I don't know enough about guitar playing. >what I do know is that by his own admission chris doesn't think he could >entertain people musically with just a guitar, but that he would also have >to sing. I personally like the way he plays . I'd say he's quite a good guitarist for singing and everything also . . . I mean, songs like BIMH, he's given full credit on for both Music and Words . . . and I think that songs got some pretty darned nifty guitaring in it . . . so I think Chris could live on guitar playing alone . . . as a rythym guitarist, of course, but nonetheless . . . spontaneous thought: Does anybody know for Ben's songs if he also writes the guitar? Or does he just write the bass and words and the actual guitarists throw the guitars in? Because I think some of Ben's songs have some of SG's best guitar riffs . . . for example Head Down . . . Somewhere . .. An Unkind . . . etc. G'nite folks . . . The Guitarist-2001 "The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist" - The Usual Suspects ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 2 Issue 242] ****************************************