From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Tuesday, 10 Sep 1996 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 01:53:54 EDT Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Tuesday, 10 Sep 1996 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: SL/ LOPP!!?? hello cleveland! burn me your fuse, throw me your stones... Re: First timer Live sound Re: burn me your fuse, throw me your stones... i think unrelated hey what is a... soundgarden thoughts An early warning about the website #13...Jesus I can't feel my... Madwoman of Chicago! Re: Soundgarden Digest, Monday, 9 Sep 1996 jerky SG fan please take me back to my healing home... RE: searching.. heretic, burn at the stake... Re: Madwoman of Chicago! - And other strange places Re: i think unrelated Re: heretic, burn at the stake... Re: Soundgarden Digest, Monday, 9 Sep 1996 "you don't get nothing for free"... well maybe so (c: chris + joey ramone in RS Screaming Life cool Re: First timer Re: Madwoman of Chicago! - And other strange places Re: heretic, burn at the stake... Re: chris + joey ramone in RS ------------------------------------------------------------ From: Badmotorfinger@nrunner.mil.wi.us Subject: SL/ LOPP!!?? Ive got SL/FOPP, and I love it. My friend has seen the cover many times. He claims that last week at Circuit City he saw it for sale, but it was Screaming Life/LOPP on the cover ! LOPP? Anyone know what the deal is? I don't think he's shittin me either, I haven't had a chance to go see for myself... ------------------------------ Subject: hello cleveland! From: seth it looks like our work is to be featured on the radio in cleveland. 107.9 fm - wenz - is supposedly going to be talking about the unofficial soundgarden homepage during an episode of their website show. the show is going to be recorded this wednesday night (9/11), but i don't know when it's going to air. i've never heard a show about websites on the radio, but i'm only telling you what they told me. if any cleveland sommsters want to call the station and try to find out exactly when the show is airing, that would be cool. and if anyone could tape it, that would be even cooler... seth ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: burn me your fuse, throw me your stones... On Mon, 9 Sep 1996, Mandy Crook wrote: > Now Soundgarden content..... For Ozsommsters......... Why doesnt RAGE ever > have a SG retrospective?????? They have a Pearl Jam one at the drop of a > hat, but they didnt even have one when DOTU came out! (or did they? Im sure rage (the australian music television program) didn't do anything for the release of down on the upside mandy, so you didn't miss anything. rage did, however, have a "soundgarden special" when the band toured back in 1994. but it was a little different to how things normally run. usually, the given musician or band will program the three or so hours of the music they want to see and hear (layne of aic played four prince songs. eek!). the clips are interspersed with the musician/band talking about why they chose the song. then at the end they play all the clips by the particular band. anyway, someone decided that when it was chris' turn to program the show, instead of having him talk about whatever he played (I wish I would have kept the list) they had him talk about his views on soundgarden's videos and music videos in general. imho, it turned out to be a much better choice. seth's superior webpage has a transcript, if you missed it. speaking of the pearl jam retrospective, they played something that was out of the ordinary - a promo sort of thing which had the band playing spin the black circle, lukin and something else in the same vein. if any listers know what I am talking about and can give me more information, please mail me privately. it was live and had jack irons on drums. lastly, could any american listers tell me how to pronounce puget sound? is it pew-get or pew-jet? dumb question, I know, but I met a guy from the university there and probably embarrassed myself by saying it wrong :) ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide - words by kim thayil ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: wworth@intex.net (courtney w.) Subject: Re: First timer > Bye darlings, > Margret... Hammett-Cornell hammett? does this mean i've found another person on earth who thinks kirk hammett's hot?? or is it just my imagination? i just joined the list... i live in dallas, tx and i DID go to lolla in ferris. i wouldn't have missed that thing for my life cuz 3 of my fave bands were there (metallica, soundgarden, rancid). it fucken RULED!!! my poor ears were killing me when i left, but it was worth it!! cyallz... courtney ------------------------------ From: Taylor Holmes Subject: Live sound Well I have heard that Chris has on and off days voice wise... However, when I saw them live, he must have been on because it was great. Also, Do you think, when they are in the studio, that they lay down the music tracks first and let Chris sing over them?.. or do you think Chris plays and sings when they are recording? Sometimes it fascinates me how the hell he plays those riffs and sings at the same time... By the way, my little brother visited me this weekend and was sending messages to people from my account without my knowing. If anyone was offended by his little wise ass, I apologize... Later, Mr. Bunchypants - who can't get rid of his old girlfriend... ------------------------------ From: Ross Filipek Subject: Re: burn me your fuse, throw me your stones... The last I heard it was pew-jet. What's up, Justin? And a hearty 'hello' to everyone else. Ross - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Mon, 9 Sep 1996, blind dog wrote: > lastly, could any american listers tell me how to pronounce puget > sound? is it pew-get or pew-jet? dumb question, I know, but I met a guy > from the university there and probably embarrassed myself by saying it > wrong :) - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "If you were mine to give I might throw it away." --C. Cornell ------------------------------ From: infinite Subject: i think unrelated just a question, people keep mentioning something called RAGE, in relation to videos. what is this? ------------------------------ From: endless_nameless@prodigy.com (GRRL NIKI FREER) Subject: hey what is a... guys, in Overfloater, for the credits on the song, around where it says lyrics & music: chris cornell, it says Rhodes piano : chris cornell. what's a Rhodes piano? and what sound is it making, so i can figure it out when i'm listening to overfloater. mind riot ____ "It's a feeling everyone gets. Yr all happy with yr life, everything's going well, things are exciting-- when all of a sudden you realize yr unhappy in the extreme, to the point of being really, really scared. There's no particular event you can pin the feeling down to, it's just that you realize one day that everything in yr life is FUCKED!" chris cornell ------------------------------ From: ADDC Subject: soundgarden thoughts I was scattershooting one day when my mind started to wander... How may somms subscribers are in or near Dallas? How many of y'all are from Texas for that matter? There seems to be an influx of Texans on the list lately, which I think is great. Maybe when SG comes to Dallas, we "Dallas area sommsters" can have our own little sommsfest. Does anyone have any more info on this Moby thing with SG? Where is that girl who was going to send out pictures of her fork necklace? I haven't heard anything else from her about it. I bought this Soundgarden t-Shirt the other day. It is black, with the front picture on the Pretty Noose single on the front of the shirt...and on the back is a picture of the CD itself. Does anyone have this shirt and if you do, what do you think of it? later. - -vincent - -when she kissed me, it seemed like she was trying to suck my soul right out of me...and I let her - ------------------------------ Subject: An early warning about the website From: seth Just wanted to let everyone know that the SG website might be down temporarily at the end of the week, so if you try to access it and it's not there or half the links don't work, fear not, it will return. Stargate Industries (sgi.net) is changing their server hardware again (from a Silicon Graphics Indigo2 to dual Silicon Graphics Challenge S servers and redundant disk vaults (and they finally got their T3 up and running, too)), and last time they did it I didn't sleep for 3 days because they left half the site on the old server ("Oh, we didn't realize you had subdirectories"). Anyway, with any luck the transition will go smoothly and the server should be faster than before. But then again, they did choose Friday the 13th as the big day, so we'll see what happens... seth ------------------------------ From: Eric Gardner Subject: #13...Jesus I can't feel my... Because Soundgarden is the greatest band the world has seen to date, I must persist with these ridiculous giveaways. Up for grabs: The German import Pretty Noose cd single, with Applebite, An Unkind and the interview excerpt (with Boris and Natasha from Eleven:) The usual crap: Email to enter, name drawn at random, only the winner need provide an address, entries taken until Friday, 13 September. Bribery not generally encouraged, but if somebody wants to Fedex me a keg I promise to put their name in twice. What a deal, eh? Eric ------------------------------ Subject: Madwoman of Chicago! From: tonerkin@usa.pipeline.com (Tonerkin) Hi guys! Over the weekend I got the first opportunity to listen to DOTU with headphones. I was outside, trying to ignore 4 five and six year old girls squealing(volume up way high for that)and working in my garden. It was just fantastic!! Sounded so good and I'm sure I established my reputation as neighborhood kook as I butt slid in time to Ben along the sidewalk pulling weeds, singing the chorus to Ty Cobb or sitting in a trance trowel in hand swaying to Dusty." My god, look at that crazy woman will ya, herbert!" I think that comment came when the solo to rhinosaur came on and I swear it sounded like a big ass bee was swarming around me. I jumped and swatted and slapped like a maniac!! Maybe it was that mushroom I found in the grass and ate earlier in the day! Off to Seattle for VACATION in the a.m.! See ya on the screen later, gators toni ------------------------------ From: James D Seymour Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Monday, 9 Sep 1996 In response to Aleko's comments about Chris performing live.. I can agree with you on one front. The live rendition of "Pretty Noose" has left me with kind of an "ehh.." reaction if you will. I have seen it 3 times performed live now and I haven't been impressed with a performance yet. However, the remaining songs are always performed fairly well in my opinion and are often times better. I really enjoy JCP live and I think Chris' solo rendition of "Mind Riot" on the Superunknown tour was fantastic. Check out some bootlegs with "good" quality and see for yourself. Don't worry about getting flamed around here. Intelligent comments and the courage to speak out is always appreciated by true fans. Jamie ------------------------------ From: spierce@mpls.k12.mn.us (Sandy Pierce) Subject: jerky SG fan here's the story- today i walked into my drawing class. there was a kid standing around with a pretty cool badmotorfinger shirt on...so being the friendly person i am i said "wow...did you make that?" and he said "yeah, in mr. wold's class" (our school's graphic arts teacher). i happened to be carrying my very favorite soundgarden shirt of all time (my black long sleeve bmf shirt) cuz i was wearing it but got too hot, and i held it up and said "this is my favorite shirt in the world!" and he looked at me like i'm a fool and said "yeah well it's a pretty good album too." then he just walked away!!! i guess he couldn't feel the excitement of actually speaking to another soundgarden fan in school (something i've never done) that i was feeling. i felt insulted. i always react in a positive way when i find things in common with people. i don't know what his problem was. the end :) has anyone else come across jerky fellow fans? amanda@boredgirl.home - -not a real address- MY disclaimer. p.s. where is dee dee?? ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: please take me back to my healing home... On Mon, 9 Sep 1996, GRRL NIKI FREER wrote: > guys, in Overfloater, for the credits on the song, around where it > says lyrics & music: chris cornell, it says Rhodes piano : chris > cornell. what's a Rhodes piano? and what sound is it making, so i can > figure it out when i'm listening to overfloater. I'm not sure what a rhodes piano is (other than the obvious), but if you listen to overfloater through the left speaker, you will hear the (somewhat) piano version of said song. without kim's guitar, it sounds fairly different. I think chris' vocals also come through a little clearer. ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide - words by kim thayil ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Carolyn Hanel Subject: RE: searching.. Aleko wrote: >>Does Chris hit a higher note? >> I have seen local bands with great vocalists that do it live (Naiad, Powderfinger)=20 Alex, I think you've brought up a good point. I have never seen = Soundgarden live, so I won't buy into the conversation (but I'm looking = forward to reading others' views), but I couldn't pass up the = opportunity to publicly agree with you on the brilliant vocals of = Bernard Fanning of Australia's own Powderfinger. Vikki & Jamie can = vouch for his talent (any other non-Aussies out there want me to = introduce you to this great band?) - I put him right up there with CC. I would have thought Chris is just as good live as not, but then I might = be wrong. Anyone else out there care to agree or disagree with Alex? Cheers, Carolyn the Music Freak I'm on a cloud and I won't come down......Tumbleweed ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: heretic, burn at the stake... On Mon, 9 Sep 1996, Aleko wrote: > Chris is a little overrated as a vocalist. Hear me out before you kill me > though. The reason i say this is the many songs they have recorded live > (as Bsides or form SOMMS) and to be honest he never matches his vocals on > the Albums (exception being Beyond the Wheel). Infact on some songs he I think there are a couple of reasons as to why chris' vocals may not sound as good live as they do on record. I don't know if you have seen them live, but I don't think boot recordings do him justice. he was *great* here in brisbane (keep in mind that was a small club show, which may suit his singing more than arena-type shows); I can't remember any part where he didn't match the vocals from any song, and they did play songs from all their albums. having said that, I think it would be difficult for chris to reproduce (note-perfect) on stage what he does in the studio. let's face it, even *he* would find it hard to re-record his vocals note for note on older songs like beyond the wheel and jesus christ pose. not that he is some sort of flash in the pan, but those performances were pretty special. live, they would be even more difficult. I think age (band and individual musical evolution, not his grey hair) may have something to do with it. soundgarden are beginning to get together a pretty large catalogue of material, and up until dotu (and selected tracks on superunk), chris' singing has been mainly in the stratosphere, lots of wailing, screaming and general shaking of foundations/buildings. but since recording head down, applebite and blow up the outside world, I think chris has begun to vary his singing style more. on earlier records like ultramega and bmf, I would wager that there weren't more than three types of microphone used for recording. but on applebite we hear him moaning, on blow up we hear watery-lennon type verses and on kyle petty we get super-distorted vocal hammerings. is chris getting bored with singing the house down all the time? take fell on black days, for example. the album version was great. but when they re-recorded it for release, the vocals were markedly different. I know this would have been a conscious effort, but whether it was because of his throat problems at the time (which may also have had a huge impact upon how he now sings both live and in the studio) or because he just wanted to shed some sort of new light on the song I don't know. but in the end, this revised melody is how he now sings the song. lastly, I think because chris is playing more guitar at gigs may have something to do with his vocal "problems". correct me if I'm wrong, but just about the only older song which called for two live guitar parts was rusty cage. I would guess that now over half of the material the band plays needs chris to play guitar. was this the case at the lolla performances? anyhow, playing guitar, no matter how simple the part, would have to in some way take away from his vocals. > I have seen local bands with great vocalists that do it live (Naiad, > Powderfinger) and for an example you would know how about the singer from > Tool Maynard. His live performances are sometimes better then the album > recordings and he hits every note spot on. Also past vocalists like Robert with reference to powderfinger, I think their lead singer's style is a lot more subdued than chris' singing. as good as he sounds, fanning is no banshee (sorry carolyn) and as for maynard, he is a different story. to me, maynard has two singing voices - full flight and melodic whispering - - and he doesn't do much in between. this is completely dissimilar to chris, who to me has a lot more gears and can do more with his voice. speaking of tool, I am currently listening to a show they did last new year's. five of the songs they performed are from their soon to be released record aenima (oct 1). the tape is probably third or fourth generation, so the sound is a little patchy. but have no fear tool-fans, the new record should sound wonderful. the first single - stinkfist - sounds great, and is already getting airplay in the states, so set your tapes :) ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide - words by kim thayil ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Madwoman of Chicago! - And other strange places From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) > Sounded so good and I'm sure I established my > reputation as neighborhood kook as I butt slid in time to Ben along the > sidewalk pulling weeds, singing the chorus to Ty Cobb or sitting in a > trance trowel in hand swaying to Dusty." My god, look at that crazy woman > will ya, herbert!" Want to talk neighbors pegging you as the kook on the block. I live on the first floor of a "U" shaped apartment complex. There are four very large picture windows that face into the center of the court. Saturday morning is cleaning day and the windows are open wide and the CD player is packed with SG. I sing, dance, and play a very bad air guitar as I clean. There has been several times when I would look out and see a group of neighbors standing out side my windows, mouths hanging open, eyes glazed.. They just don't understand that SG is the "FORCE"... Okay anyone else out there been seen during strange things to the sound of SG. Oh, wait one other strange place I listen to SG tunes is when I'm in the Dentist office. My dentist lets us wear headphones when he works on you. I let Chris do my screaming for me.... :-) Jamie (Village Idiot with the perfect "Crest" smile) SOMMSfest 96' ------------------------------ From: Lee Christensen Subject: Re: i think unrelated At 10:27 AM 9/9/96 -0500, infinite wrote: > > > just a question, people keep mentioning something called RAGE, in relation to videos. what is this? Hey ya, RAGE is an Australian program that screens on Friday and Saturday nights down here. From about 12am till 8am or so. No commercials just videos :) They do special events ie they did a night where all they played was Soundgarden, Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains, Stone Temple Pilots and Nirvana. They also have guessed VJ's from touring bands to come in and play favourite videos. And because it is non-commercial it plays everything and anything :) It's the only place we in Aust get any decent videos other then top 40 crap. Well that should answer some questions :) seeya Lee ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: Re: heretic, burn at the stake... On Tue, 10 Sep 1996, blind dog wrote: > lastly, I think because chris is playing more guitar at gigs may > have something to do with his vocal "problems". correct me if I'm wrong, > but just about the only older song which called for two live guitar parts > was rusty cage. I would guess that now over half of the material the band > plays needs chris to play guitar. was this the case at the lolla > performances? anyhow, playing guitar, no matter how simple the part, > would have to in some way take away from his vocals. i agree -- hence caryn's rule #8: "lead singers should NOT play guitar (unless it's a three piece)" to qualify that, i mean lead singers wehre vocals are a particular strength. obviously, neil young has to sing. but i think people like roger daltrey, mick jagger or eddie vedder -- it's superflous, and detracts from their concentration. actually, sg was one of the few bands that i thought transcended that rule, because chris' guitar work was so clearly essential to the sound (unlike those listed above, where it's just showing off imo). - --caryn ------------------------------ From: DiMarrzio@aol.com Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Monday, 9 Sep 1996 Kim Thayil is the Almighty Everything That Ever Was And Ever WIll Be, The equipment he uses are Mesa-Boogie Solo 100 Heads, Mesa 4x12s, Guild S100's, Gibson Les Paul Customs,Gibson Firebird. He also used a Fender Jazzmaster on upside. As for pedals, I think he uses a Vox wah, a dod bifet preamp, and thats all i can think of right now. Is anyone else obsessed with Thayil? Has anyone heard anything else on the arrest thing? DiMarrzio ------------------------------ From: UnknMan@aol.com Subject: "you don't get nothing for free"... well maybe so (c: BUSINESS:I was patrolling one of my competion's fine record stores & found tons of good import cds for bargain basement prices. Most singles were 4.99 so I picked up a few including all the available Soundgarden (which I of course already had). Anyway, since I have 3, I'll give 1 away every week or so like some of the other wonderful SOMMS people (Eric & Ang). The first item up for grabs is: Soundgarden - My Wave - Australian cd single w/ cardboard case - 4 tracks that include: My Wave (lp version), Spoonman (remix), Birth Ritual (demo), My Wave (live). It's still in the shrink wrap so I'll leave it that way. I only ask that if you already have this item or plan to do anything other than keep it for yourself or give to a friend please don't enter. Send me only your entry & the deadline for entries will be Friday the 13th. Instead of drawing out of a hat I'll draw out of a bag or something... just to be different. Oh, & please don't send me underpants for bribery, unless they're boxers & my size I guess /c: Never mind, long story (c: >How many of y'all are from Texas for that matter? I'm from Texas, Dallas originally, but I currently reside in Gulfport, MS about an hour from New Orleans, LA. Thanks go out to Eric (for the lovely FODB / My Wave 45), Seth (for putting up with me for the last year & for the great page work), everyone on the list (for being SOMMS subscribers) & the milkman for being my biological father (c: Never mind that as well! ray (c: ------------------------------ From: endless_nameless@prodigy.com (GRRL NIKI FREER) Subject: chris + joey ramone in RS i don't know who it was that said that this was a great picture, but i strongly disagree. i can't figured out why chris looks like he does, red, almost bloodshot looking eyes, sullen, tight skin on his face, way scrawnier that i remember seeing him last. does anyone have any explanations? i mean, i know he's been hitting the bottle more often, but can that do that to someone? i'm 17, so i've not yet experienced the joys of seeing really drunken people or alcoholics. so i'm really worried about chris, cause i care for him and the band and i'd hate to see anything happen... i dunno, so sue me, but i got scared when i saw this picture. anyone else have it and agree? mind riot ____ "It's a feeling everyone gets. Yr all happy with yr life, everything's going well, things are exciting-- when all of a sudden you realize yr unhappy in the extreme, to the point of being really, really scared. There's no particular event you can pin the feeling down to, it's just that you realize one day that everything in yr life is FUCKED!" chris cornell ------------------------------ Subject: Screaming Life From: mind_riot@juno.com (Susan Silver) um, hi, this is Mind Riot, i have two addys, but if you reply to this PLEASE DON'T REPLY TO THIS ID. for some reason, my juno account doesn't pick mail up, but it sends it. oh well. okay, well, this is something i wrote today at school in study hall. just a little something to express what soundgarden and the lyrics chris (kim and ben sometimes too) writes mean to me and make me feel. it's called Screaming Life. Piercing pools of azure sky haunting with their solemn stare feelings and images thrust forth deep into imaginations last reaches. Once a flowing, swirling mane of black with its twists and turns and tangled tresses tendrils now reduced and straightened standing on end in halo-like fashion. Close your eyes and open your mind the eagle's shriek cries out in anguish switching to a slow, seductive croon that penetrates a driving force to break even stone hearts. Angry words of pain and darkness each emotion wrapped in a perfect scheme speaking for one who he has never met "Remember everything is just black or burning sun." - -- niki freer september 9, 1996 (last line written by chris cornell and taken from "tighter & tighter") PLEASE don't take this and call it yr own, it means a lot to me. and if you want to reply to me about this writing, please reply to ENDLESS_NAMELESS@PRODIGY.COM. that's where i read my mail from. thanks and don't flame me. mind riot "the wreck is going down, get out before you drown..." ------------------------------ From: "Burris, Benjamin CDT " Subject: cool I'm feeling Outshined ------------------------------ From: Heather E Jackson Subject: Re: First timer On Mon, 9 Sep 1996, courtney w. wrote: > > Bye darlings, > > Margret... Hammett-Cornell > > hammett? does this mean i've found another person on earth who thinks kirk > hammett's hot?? or is it just my imagination? i just joined the list... i > live in dallas, tx and i DID go to lolla in ferris. i wouldn't have missed > that thing for my life cuz 3 of my fave bands were there (metallica, > soundgarden, rancid). it fucken RULED!!! my poor ears were killing me when i > left, but it was worth it!! > > cyallz... > > > courtney > > OH MY GOD!!!!!!! You are not the only person who thinks Kirk Hammett is one fine looking man, don't ask me why he describes himself as ugly and smelly! I posted a whole dissertation as to why I love him on a bulletin board on Aol! Ok, so this isn't a Metallica page, so i'll shut up. But I HAD to respond to that!!! however if you do wanna talk further just reply to me! Heather ------------------------------ From: Heather E Jackson Subject: Re: Madwoman of Chicago! - And other strange places > just don't understand that SG is the "FORCE"... Okay anyone else out there > been seen during strange things to the sound of SG. > > Oh, wait one other strange place I listen to SG tunes is when I'm in the > Dentist office. My dentist lets us wear headphones when he works on you. > I let Chris do my screaming for me.... :-) > > Jamie > (Village Idiot with the perfect "Crest" smile) > > SOMMSfest 96' > > Yes, i have been walked in on..stared at by nosy neighbors...living in New york, there window happens to be right against mine!...all while listening to my favorite band!...some people just don't get it!! And yes...Listening to Pretty Noose while having a tooth filled was just too funny to be painful!! Doesn't Chris just make everything better?? Heather ------------------------------ From: Ross Filipek Subject: Re: heretic, burn at the stake... I'd have to agree. I think I'll also add that the adrenaline flowing through Chris' body on stage is most likely a hell of a lot more than that which flows in the studio. The raucous energy produced by playing live might suppress what we'll call "vocal precision." That's what I think, at least. Not that I can sing. . . Ross - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Tue, 10 Sep 1996, blind dog wrote: > I think there are a couple of reasons as to why chris' vocals may > not sound as good live as they do on record. I don't know if you have seen - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "If you were mine to give I might throw it away." --C. Cornell ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: Re: chris + joey ramone in RS At 09:58 PM 9/9/96 -0500, GRRL NIKI FREER wrote: >i don't know who it was that said that this was a great picture, but >i strongly disagree. it was me... i thought it was great because it was like 'hey ma, look! i'm with fuckin' JOEY RAMONE!', with his arm around him, taken at the aftershow party. i can't figured out why chris looks like he does, > red, almost bloodshot looking eyes, sullen, tight skin on his face, >way scrawnier that i remember seeing him last. does anyone have any >explanations? i mean, i know he's been hitting the bottle more often, >but can that do that to someone? i'm 17, so i've not yet experienced >the joys of seeing really drunken people or alcoholics. so i'm really >worried about chris, cause i care for him and the band and i'd hate >to see anything happen... i dunno, so sue me, but i got scared when i >saw this picture. anyone else have it and agree? i just thought he had a great time at the aftershow party. *shrug* ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 2 Issue 239] ****************************************