From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Saturday, 31 Aug 1996 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Sat, 31 Aug 1996 01:54:16 EDT Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Saturday, 31 Aug 1996 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: fresh deadly rarities goof up Behest from the west Re: age hangups... Re: Launch #12 (video comp+) us tour Re: Age has nothing to do with it Re: um, rhinosaurs y una pregunta. It must be the miracle grow! Music Stores You lucky so and sos Promo Posters Fwd: Soundgarden #somms Re: Music Stores Re: Soundgarden Digest, Friday, 30 Aug 1996 bootlegs....and... #somms Re: fresh deadly rarities goof up hot tub open #somms ------------------------------------------------------------ From: endless_nameless@prodigy.com (GRRL NIKI FREER) Subject: fresh deadly rarities goof up anyone who has fresh deadly rarities- look inside on the insert where it says the band members names and what the play, ect. instead of "chris cornell- vocals/guitar" it says "chris connel- vocal/guitar". anyone ever notice this before? if so and you mentioned it a long time ago OOPS!! :) mind riot ____ "It's a feeling everyone gets. Yr all happy with yr life, everything's going well, things are exciting-- when all of a sudden you realize yr unhappy in the extreme, to the point of being really, really scared. There's no particular event you can pin the feeling down to, it's just that you realize one day that everything in yr life is FUCKED!" chris cornell ------------------------------ From: Tiffany S StClaireMefret Subject: Behest from the west This request is likely totally unnecessary, but I must beg: If anyone hears rumors of upcoming US west coast soundgarden dates, please pass them on. I am most interested in the following cities: Sacramento, Oakland, Mountain View, etc in CA. Portland and Eugene in Oregon. Seattle/Tacoma in WA. Las Vegas and Reno in Nevada. Thanks! RE: interpreting lyrics I enjoy reading other's interpretations of lyrics. I always carry on an internal debate about the meaning of lyrics that I love, but for me the point is not what the author meant when he or she (or Chris Cornell) wrote them. What I really enjoy about interpreting lyrics is first sussing out what is likely meant and then adding meanings of my own. For example: Rhinosaur. Toybox interprets the song in terms of conflict and besting enemies. This is a valid interpretation because the song obviously holds that meaning for toybox. My personal criteria for art is that art, once created, takes on a life of its own. People exposed to the art receive not only the gift of experiencing the art, they also get to participate by contributing to the art. When I listen to a soundgarden song, I always connect ideas and emotions of my own to the ideas and emotions that I imagine the band put there. That is why I love soundgarden so much. The songs allow me to participate: I feel connected. Most of the time I feel really alienated, so it's nice to connect to something. When toybox interprets the lyrics to Rhinosaur, I get even more out of it. I get to see what's in toybox's head too. I'm going on about this because I'm sure that people are a bit shy about interpreting the lyrics. I contend that there is no way to "get it wrong". If you see it, it's there. At the very least, it's there in your head, which is certainly somewhere, isn't it? Ok, to finish off this too-long post, I'll tell you what I think about when I listen to Rhinosaur: #Standing with my enemies/Hung on my horns/With haste and reverie/Killing #with charm......I play, I'm sick and tame/Drawing the hordes/I wait, and #show the lame/The meaning of harm The above lines seem to me to speak of a weariness with give and give of the rock star profession. I imagine the enemies are music industry people, and maybe the hordes are fans and the music industry people that congest the backstage area. Maybe the lame are fans. I don't see this as anti-fan at all, I just mean that everyone probably wants a peice of the author, and it probably sucks dealing with it. One reason I think the industry people would be enemies is because they try to exert artistic control over all artists. If the band is a rhino, they are trying to tame it. #The skulls beneath my feet/Like feathers in the sand/I graze among the #graves/A feeling of peace Picture a concert where you're on stage looking out at the pit. This might look like skulls beneath your feet. If this metaphor holds, then the next lines mean that you are getting a feeling of peace from looking out at all the fans. (see, it's really not anti-fan). I see the two sets of "only" lyrics as being accusatory; in other words, look how contradictory (healthy/dirt, bending/break) and overbearing (swarm) you people are. This may not be what Chris Cornell was thinking when he was writing the lyrics, but anyway... later, Vampyre Cat ------------------------------ From: BTimLake@aol.com Subject: Re: age hangups... I just wanted to say that I am 19 years old and I like Soundgarden. Did that enrich everyone's life? Good. Thanks to Toni Roark, I have agents in Chicago acquiring tickets to one or both of Soundgarden's (soon to be sold out) shows at the Aragon Ballroom. I hear that there will be a ban on metallica and fraternity t-shirts. Metallica fans and frat guys are welcome, of course, but only if they promise to get really drunk and mosh during "Switch Opens." -- Ben Ben Timberlake You know . . . Northwestern University . . . for kids! Medill School of Journalism btimlake@aol.com -30- http://pubweb.acns.nwu.edu/~bft718 "I didn't create this situation, I'm dealing with it." -Steve Buscemi "Reservoir Dogs" "You my friend, I will defend. And if you change, well I love you anyway" -- Alice In Chains, "No Excuses" ------------------------------ From: BTimLake@aol.com Subject: Re: Launch >> Ok, where are all you people finding this launch mag? >> >Its actually a "bi-monthly entertainment CD-ROM". Funny thing, though, >I got mine at a book store (SuperCrown). >Kathie I got Launch the other day and there were two of the CD rom disks! I didn't get the "For your ears only" disk. Did everyone else get the cd-rom and the music sampler? Karaoke is on the CD-rom, but I still feel kind of cheated. -- Ben Ben Timberlake You know . . . Northwestern University . . . for kids! Medill School of Journalism btimlake@aol.com -30- http://pubweb.acns.nwu.edu/~bft718 "I didn't create this situation, I'm dealing with it." -Steve Buscemi "Reservoir Dogs" "You my friend, I will defend. And if you change, well I love you anyway" -- Alice In Chains, "No Excuses" ------------------------------ From: Eric Gardner Subject: #12 (video comp+) Another of the ever popular SG video compilations is the prize this time. The contents include plenty of mtv clips and a couple booted shows. Maybe more. Also we have an SG patch, a small black rectangle that has SOUNDGARDEN (what else!?) embroidered on it in white letters. As usual...email to enter, name drawn totally fucking randomly, only the winner need provide an address, blah blah blah. Entries taken until Tuesday, 3 September. Eric ------------------------------ From: infinite Subject: us tour maybe if we all think happy thoughts they'll come to our specific = corner of the globe..=20 the introspection aplied to rhinosaur was astonding.. never have i = seen a piece of work that well thought out or related to ass kicking..=20 infinite 'only happy when i'm kicking your ass' -twisted lyric ------------------------------ From: oponfam@cnsnet.com Subject: Re: Age has nothing to do with it Lauren said: > It is hard for us (I'm 15) I don't know anyone at my school who even loves sg > as much as I do. I don't know, maybe I'm not looking too hard, but I > wouldn't even have anyone to go to a concert with. Actually its hard for all of us, no matter what age, which is why this list is so great. Now I know other Soundgarden fans, even some in my general vicinity, so I actually have people to go to the concert with this time (my husband has gone in the past, but he's really not a fan). I can't wait for November! The Chicago Sommsters definitely have to meet! Hang in there, Lauren. Kathie ------------------------------ From: Nate Crosswhite Subject: Re: um, rhinosaurs y una pregunta. At 12:28 AM 8/30/96 -0400, toybox@email.unc.edu wrote: >Ok, now, i would like to present my meaningless interpretation of >Rhinosaur. Thie lyrics seem to be about someone so consumed with winning >the battle, with besting their enemies, that they lose themselves in the >process. > That's a pretty good interpretation, IMO, and sums up what I'd been thinking, but couldn't put into words. >But then you get to the chorus, where for the purpose of my lyric >interpratation, i will presume that "I'm" is the missing part of the >following lyrics: My take on the chorus was that it was from a different point of view than the verses. Said another way, the verses are spoken by the "Rhinosaur", while the chorus is said by an observer, giving a new way to look at the Rhinosaur's actions. The Rhinosaur sees itself as a leader, a conqueror, and the observer sees it as a leech or destroyer. Nate ------------------------------ From: "Joseph E \"Gene\" Candelaria" Subject: It must be the miracle grow! Once again, my SG collection is amassing (or is that I'm assing?). Today I acquired: "Flower" CD single. "Pretty Noose, Part 2 of 2" CD single MIT(get it?) excerpts from Kaiser Keller's Cellar Show. In my previous posts I forgot that my collection also contained: "Hater" CD "Pigeonhed" CD Who knows, I may find more in my shrine... Oh yeah, I also picked up: "A Small Circle of Friends" Germs Tribute CD "Sublime" SUBLIME CD "Backwater" MEAT PUPPETS CD single "Independent Days Volumes 1 & 2" HAWKWIND CD (Long live LEMMY!!) Oh yeah (x2), I finally caught on that my return address was incorrect and have taken measures to correct this. And now back to our regularly scheduled program... - -- ; > Joseph E. "Gene" Candelaria http://www.inland.net/~sunishun "This is precisely the sort of thing, my old pa warned me about... ..well I'm already burnt out, so I guess I'll just grow old... ..grow a beard and have no fear 'cuz the festival's just been sold..." --BLOODLOSS, "Face Down In Mud" ------------------------------ From: "Paul" Subject: Music Stores I was wondering if any of you who live in Seattle could tell me if there are any good places to buy rare Soundgarden cds and records. I am going to Seattle this weekend and I thought there would some good music stores. Anyone? Paul ------------------------------ From: "Joseph E \"Gene\" Candelaria" Subject: You lucky so and sos Here's the site w/SG ticket info for the LUCKY Chitowners and Midwesterners. Not just one night but *TWO*: http://www.ticketmaster.com/events/PERFORMANCES/SOUNDGARDEN/ Jealous in So Cal... - -- ; > Joseph E. "Gene" Candelaria http://www.inland.net/~sunishun "This is precisely the sort of thing, my old pa warned me about... ..well I'm already burnt out, so I guess I'll just grow old... ..grow a beard and have no fear 'cuz the festival's just been sold..." --BLOODLOSS, "Face Down In Mud" ------------------------------ From: "Paul" Subject: Promo Posters A couple days ago I was at this skateboard expo. They had a couple of booths set up for local skate shops, and there was this one booth that was giving away free cassette samplers and posters. Much to my surprise they had several SG posters promoting Upside and the best part was they were free. I there was one that looked like the picture from Into the Upside with the red background and said soundgarden across the middle and had a picture of the cover of DotU in one corner. There was also a banner type poster that had the covers of LTL, BMF, Superunknown, and Alive in the Superunknown. It says "also available by soundgarden" above the pictures. There were cardboard pictures of the cover of DotU that were the size of a vinyl sleeve (at first I thought they were giving away free copies of Upside vinyl and grabbed five) and on the back it says Soundgarden Down on the Upside featuring: Pretty Noose, Burden in my Hand, and Blow up the Outside World. The last item I got was a very large poster of the DotU cover that they had set up behind their booth. I asked them if I could have it and the told me that when they left, if I came by they would give it to me. I doubt that this has any importance in your life, but I thought it was cool. If anyone on the list is from the Minnesota (besides McCheese) they might know what I'm talking about. If you went, mail me. Paul "We used to meet every Thursday, Thursday in the afternoon, for a couple of beers and a game of pool." ------------------------------ From: ShRooMGrLz@aol.com Subject: Fwd: Soundgarden Well, I e-mailed the fan club about the new tour itinerary. This is what I got back.. Shroomy "Hey Shroom... Dave (Navarro) and I will be waiting in the hot tub. Hurry, or we'll be forced to start without you..." ~ Chris Cornell (Words not necessarily said in that order...) <~~~ my disclaimer - --------------------- Forwarded message: From: sgfc@speakeasy.org (Soundgarden) To: ShRooMGrLz@aol.com (ShRooMGrLz@aol.com) Date: 96-08-30 18:08:23 EDT - -- [ From: Soundgarden * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] -- Miss Shroom, NONE of the dates are confirmed yet. However, Soundgarden IS planning there US tour right now. We will let you know the minute the dates are finalized. KOTS - -------- REPLY, Original message follows -------- Date: Thursday, 29-Aug-96 10:53 PM From: ShRooMGrLz@aol.com \ America On-Line: (ShRooMGrLz) To: Soundgarden \ Internet: (sgfc@speakeasy.org) Subject: =) I've heard that Soundgarden has confirmed two shows in Chicago for November 9th and 10th. Can you let me know what's on their itinerary for the rest of the tour? Are those the first dates of their next US tour? Thanks! Shroom - -------- REPLY, End of original message -------- ------------------------------ From: "Joseph E \"Gene\" Candelaria" Subject: #somms Hey all, The #somms pool has been checked for chemical balance and is ready for occupation. I have my flippers, mask and snorkel at the ready and will be frolicking for the next 1/2 hour or so. Come on in and have a cool soak... - -- ; > Joseph E. "Gene" Candelaria http://www.inland.net/~sunishun "This is precisely the sort of thing, my old pa warned me about... ..well I'm already burnt out, so I guess I'll just grow old... ..grow a beard and have no fear 'cuz the festival's just been sold..." --BLOODLOSS, "Face Down In Mud" ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: Re: Music Stores On Fri, 30 Aug 1996, Paul wrote: > I was wondering if any of you who live in Seattle could tell me if there are any > good places to buy rare Soundgarden cds and records. I am going to Seattle this > weekend and I thought there would some good music stores. Anyone? in Seattle proper, you can try: Cellophane Square -- U District (on the ave) (u district) Retrospect Records -- Denny and Olive (capitol hill) Orpheum Records - E. Broadway & Roy (capitol hill) if you have transportation out of town, write me and i can recommend others on the east side. - --caryn ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Friday, 30 Aug 1996 welcome new people to the list. if you want to reply to ONE message in the digest, could you please *delete* everything BUT the message you are replying to??? you can delete in EVERY email program known to mankind, even pine, so there's no excuse. ;-) and change the subject header? thanks. - --caryn ------------------------------ From: LoudLove Subject: bootlegs....and... fellow bleeders, am getting my brother, who's in singapore, to get me an sg cd....i've got all the major releases....all 5 of them(sorry but that's all that i have), excluding somms(but that's not a mainstream release, right?)..... just wanna ask for some suggestions....he said he saw some with sg live.....we don't have sources here in the philippines...that's why i wanna maximize the chance and get the best that is available there you guys in oz are really lucky....with sg in bdo......men, sg wont even come close to philippine shores..... ' inalok ako ng isang ahas, pula't matamis na mansanas pilit ko man hindi makaiwas....sa mata ng diyos... '----wolfgang - LoudLove :> ------------------------------ From: infinite Subject: #somms had fun friday night... talk of dust bunnies, computer sex and other such oddities, it's all in #somms, folks! infinite ps dee dee, hook me up with that email address i lost it ------------------------------ From: UnknMan@aol.com Subject: Re: fresh deadly rarities goof up Niki said: >anyone who has fresh deadly rarities- look inside on the insert where >it says the band members names and what the play, ect. instead of >"chris cornell- vocals/guitar" it says "chris connel- vocal/guitar". >anyone ever notice this before? if so and you mentioned it a long >time ago OOPS!! Also notice bassist Ben Sheppard... & even funnier... they credit Mr "Sheppard" with singing Show Me (c: Yes, singing, not writing! Homicidal Suicidal is a a Budgie tune, not a Buzzcocks song also. Then again boot companies aren't normally all that bright. (c: I'm still waiting to hear such Soundgarden songs listed on various boots as: Big Mother, Rusty Lage, Something On You, Tomorrow, Try Being There, Mind Rape, First Heroes, One More Time Around, My Way, Placed Out, Figure This & Drum. ray (c: ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: hot tub open friday night and back from listening to the sex pistols make fools of themself at bumbershoot? no? well, why not join us anyway inthe hot tub! a johnny rotten free zone - --caryn ------------------------------ From: ThNrthFace@aol.com Subject: #somms Hey, After a long Sex Pistol free day at Bumbershoot, it's nice to be able to come home and relax at the #somms spa. So come on in. The bar is fully stocked and happy hour is about to begin. The List Thug, KTMS member, and Chicago bound SOMMS member, Aaron ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 2 Issue 229] ****************************************