From: somms@mit.edu
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Today's Topics:
 

                           Re: my theroy on SOMMS.
                             My theory on SOMMS
                                   #somms
                                  the list
                           Re: my theroy on SOMMS.
                           Re: Weird Part in BIMH
                                 MA CORNELL
                       Re(3): S.O.M.M.S/BMF band shirt
                                SG in Launch
                                SG Parodies?
                       Re(3): S.O.M.M.S/BMF band shirt
                     Re: Re(3): S.O.M.M.S/BMF band shirt
                               Re: MA CORNELL
                     you can wear it on your clothes...
                   Re: you can wear it on your clothes...
                      I can leave but I can't forget...
                     Re: Re(3): S.O.M.M.S/BMF band shirt
                     Re: Re(3): S.O.M.M.S/BMF band shirt
                   Re(2): Re(3): S.O.M.M.S/BMF band shirt
                   Re: you can wear it on your clothes...
                              FW: SG Parodies?
                           who's the guy on viola?
                            a call to arms......
                         final word on SOMMS theroy.
                                ohhhh Seth??
                          Re: a call to arms......
                          Re: a call to arms......
                          Re: a call to arms......
                           Johnny Cash Rusty Cage
                              OUTSHINED single
                               Re: MA CORNELL
                   Re(2): Re(3): S.O.M.M.S/BMF band shirt
                          Re: a call to arms......
                   Re: Soundgarden at the big day out 97'
                           RE: speaking of shirts
                           RE: speaking of shirts
                                  Next Song
              Re: Re(2): Re(2): Re(3): S.O.M.M.S/BMF band shirt
                             speaking of shirts
                              homemade forks..
                Re(2): Re(2): Re(3): S.O.M.M.S/BMF band shirt

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Subject: Re: my theroy on SOMMS. 
From: seth <saperl@MIT.EDU>


> -ahem-  Actually sonata means: "a musical composition for solo instrument or
> instruments, usually in 3 or 4 movements having unity of subject but
> differing in tempo, rhythm, etc."  That's from a musical 'theory' text book.
>  SOOOOO...
> 
> This would mean a grouping of 3 to 4 songs that connect in today's modern
> rock... nothing to do with a quartet of musicians.  Will seth (music major,
> right?) care to back me up here?  The word is also taken from the latin root
> _sonare_ which means 'to sound.'  Sonaregarden... has a ring to it  (c:

You are correct, Ray. A sonata is most frequently a 3-movement piece
for solo pianoforte or an instrument with pianoforte accompaniment
(violin sonata, flute sonata, whatever). The 3-movement Vienniese
classical sonata is the most common because it is the version that was
most used by Hadyn, Mozart, and Beethoven in the late 18th and early
19th centuries.  Before that era, in the 17th century, sonatas were
compositions for instrumental ensembles that were divided into 5 or
more contrasting sections; later, Baroque sonatas had 3-6 movements
and existed in 2 different forms, the chamber sonata and church
sonata, the latter being the more 'serious' of the two.

There is the occasional 4-movement sonata, and more recently -- as in
20th century -- there have been sonatas for larger groups of
instruments, like Walton's Sonata For Strings. The Oxford Dictionary
of Music even argues that a symphony is a sonata for orchestra, a
quartet is a sonata for 4 string instruments, etc.

To tie this all to Soundgarden (how the hell am I going to do this?),
I would agree that Satanoscillatemymetallicsonatas is more likely a
joke than anything. I don't think the 'sonatas' part of it is
referring to the band, though I suppose it could refer to a song...

Whatever.

seth


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From: Chris Farley <hannibal@tiac.net>
Subject: My theory on SOMMS

Oscillate does not mean to rotate:
Webster Definition for "oscillate"

Cross references:=20

1.swing=20



os.cil.late \'a:s-*-.la-t\ \a:-'sil-*-.to-r-e-, -.to.r-\ vi [L =
oscillatus, pp. of oscillare to swing, fr. oscillum swing] 1a: to swing =
backward and forward like a pendulum : VIBRATE 1b: to move or travel =
back and forth between two points 2: to vary between opposing beliefs, =
feelings, or theories : FLUCTUATE 3: to vary above and below a mean =
value - os.cil.la.to.ry aj=20

Chris


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From: DashosheE <dashoshe@neca.com>
Subject: #somms

I'm here, you're not, why?
- -- 

"I am the one, a GOD with a gun
          I am LEGEND!"  
                        -White Zombie

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http://www.neca.com/~dashoshe

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From: DashosheE <dashoshe@neca.com>
Subject: the list

this is nothing at all against seth, but I hate getting unreturnable
mail messages everytime I post, I get about 10 everytime.  Ithink that
people should notify seth if they are going to lose their acc.  That way
I dont get pissed.  Thanks for coming have a nice day.
- -- 

"I am the one, a GOD with a gun
          I am LEGEND!"  
                        -White Zombie

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dashoshe@neca.com
http://www.neca.com/~dashoshe

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Subject: Re: my theroy on SOMMS.
From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson)

> To tie this all to Soundgarden (how the hell am I going to do this?),
> I would agree that Satanoscillatemymetallicsonatas is more likely a
> joke than anything. I don't think the 'sonatas' part of it is
> referring to the band, though I suppose it could refer to a song...
> seth

Wowwwww, the list master agrees with the Village Idiot..  See great
minds work alike, well one great mind and one that's been around long
enough to have build up a fairly good knowledge bank.

Jamie
(Village Idiot)
 


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From: BlackRose <blkrose@gaianet.net>
Subject: Re: Weird Part in BIMH

>         What are the lines right after "follow me into the desert as
> desperate as you are"?  All I can make out is what sounds like
> moon, picture, heaven, and all the little things...
> Mark

The line is:
"Where the moon is glued to a picture of heaven and all the little pigs 
have god."

I was trying to figure out what that was too it was driving me crazy, 
and then when I bought the Cherry Lane guitar tab book for DOTU it said 
it in there.  =]



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From: iawake@ix.netcom.com (Chris (SGardnGrl))
Subject: MA CORNELL

I found the recent issue of Kerrange....

featuring Karen Cornell...here is some of the article:

BLACK HOLE MUM-She's Soundgarden singer Chris Cornells Mom. She can 
predict the future.
 
A GUIDE TO THE SUPERUNKNOWN
How Karen Cornell predicts the future.

Karen Cornell is an Intuitive Consultant. She specialises in 
numerology. In English, this means she studies the "key numbers" in a 
persons life to determine their future. We popped along to Karen's 
Seattle office with the names and birthdates of a selection of rock 
star-types. She pored over them and then revealed if they're in for an 
ace or an arse time over the next few years.

CHRIS CORNELL

He is: Soundgardens enormo-voiced frontman. Son of Karen.

Date of Birth: Ma Cornell knows, but she isn't saying boo.

Ma Cornell's personality profile: "I haven't done a reading for Chris 
in a long time. He has an "11" the number of the visionary, someone who 
sees the bigger picture-as he did when he was 16, when he set his mind 
on becoming a musician. All in all, Chris is doing what he was put here 
to do."

Chris' future-Ace or Arse??:
"There's a lot of energy around him until 1999. He's in Year Seven of 
his cycle, which means a lot of soul-searching and introspection. He 
might be feeling unsocial, which could make touring difficult. But he's 
always been like that."

Well, there you have it....

I have to say... I feel that if Chris himself saw the article....and 
knew that the media was publisizing his mothers chosen career..(only 
for the fact that it's HIS mom) he might not be too happy about it. I 
think that it might embarrass him somewhat. It's already evident, 
whenever he is asked about how he feels towards what his mother does 
for a living....  

Just my .02 cents...

SGardnGrl.

     

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From: Josh_Garza@teachnet.edb.utexas.edu (Josh Garza)
Subject: Re(3): S.O.M.M.S/BMF band shirt

overfloater@thenexus.com,Internet TeachNet Gatew writes:

well, hope i could help =)



Thanx a whole lot !!!!!!!!

that BT GUN one is the one i was looking for, had no idea it could be the
bmf/somms one
thanks again

- -pencapchew


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From: FrkShow911@aol.com
Subject: SG in Launch

 I picked up this thing I saw at the newstand called Launch today. On the
cover they've got SG, and what it is is a cd-plus type thing with an
additional music cd. If you pop the cd-rom cd into a cd player, out comes the
song Karaoke from your speakers. On the cd-rom they've got this whole thing
on SG including Kim and Chris sitting there in interview position lifeless.
Every couple of seconds or so one will say something...Check it out.

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From: Badmotorfinger@nrunner.mil.wi.us
Subject: SG Parodies?

Hmm...I wonder If Weird Al would ever do an SG parody? Here's a little
something to start him off...

"Pretty Goose"

I caught the goose today
Pick it up
And chop it away all right
I got the cutting steel
A cleaning glove
With the feathers peeled all right
Fallout and take the guts
Eat the meat
And kiss the tummy goodnight

No...I don't have a life or anyhthing better to do in my spare time (except
listen to SG) :P


BMF





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From: Josh_Garza@teachnet.edb.utexas.edu (Josh Garza)
Subject: Re(3): S.O.M.M.S/BMF band shirt

kool, could you please describe the shirt..?

- -pencapchew

_________________________________________________________________
erin@planet.eon.net,Internet writes:
I'll let you know when we're on the net, or you could just do it by snail
mail... The shirt costs $25.63 (including tax) Canadian.. I'm not sure how
much that is in American, but the postage would be a lot I know because I
sent 2 SG posters to a girl on the list in New York and the postage was
like $3.. So...





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From: Scroggin <metalica@roanoke.infi.net>
Subject: Re: Re(3): S.O.M.M.S/BMF band shirt

Josh Garza wrote:
> 
> kool, could you please describe the shirt..?
> 
> -pencapchew

are we refering to the shirt with the SOMMS thing on the back and the 
smoking gun in the center , if so then i have this shirt and its well 
worth the money just for the reason that it has the smoking revolver 
on the back and it says satanoscilatemymetalicsonatas encircled 
around the gun

go buy it now , you woln't regret it.

- -- 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
- -what is democracy????
- -i believe it has something to do with sending 
young men off to die.
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From: caryn rose <clr@nwlink.com>
Subject: Re: MA CORNELL

At 10:24 AM 8/25/96 -0700, Chris (SGardnGrl) wrote:
>I have to say... I feel that if Chris himself saw the article....and 
>knew that the media was publisizing his mothers chosen career..(only 
>for the fact that it's HIS mom) he might not be too happy about it. I 
>think that it might embarrass him somewhat. It's already evident, 
>whenever he is asked about how he feels towards what his mother does 
>for a living....  

i don't know where you got that idea from, because Karen's appeared on local
Seattle radio for *years*, doing readings for whatever rock star was in
town.  She takes out ads in the newspaper and does readings at the Showbox,
a club here in Seattle.  This is what Karen does.  It's her 'profession'.
It's to her advantage to have the media publicize it -- how else would she
get paying customers????

I don't recall Chris ever being embarassed about his mother's career --
perhaps private and not talking about it, which is a different thing.  and
also, it is HER life.... *shrug* i could be wrong here, i'm just asking...

- --caryn


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From: blind dog <s325961@student.uq.edu.au>
Subject: you can wear it on your clothes...

On Sun, 25 Aug 1996, Josh Garza wrote:

> and anyone konw wat the INdian Dancer shirt and animal collage have to do with
> any songs/albums/anything?

	the indian dancer shirt (the version I have seen) is pretty much
the pacific rim tour t-shirt, with the cities written on the back, but no
tour dates.  the animal collage is taken from the inside of the superunk
booklet (which looks a little pukey on grey imho). btw, has anyone ever
noticed that the trike on the kickstand shirt couldn't possibly move, on
account of the straight pedal-stalk? 

	speaking of the animal collage, I found a really cool 1994
soundgarden u.s tour poster on the weekend. it has an extended collage
reaching to all borders, with soundgarden in weird jimi hendrix-type
written in blue at the top.  below this are the names of the various
support acts from the tour (tad, you am I, eleven and the rev. horton),
and in small white type around the edges are all the tour dates. already
laminated, it only cost $18, and as an early christmas present it's tough
to beat :)

                       -----------------------------------
                        a thousand doors, a thousand lies
                           rooms a thousand years wide 
			      - words by kim thayil
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From: caryn rose <clr@nwlink.com>
Subject: Re: you can wear it on your clothes...

At 08:56 AM 8/26/96 +1000, blind dog wrote:
>On Sun, 25 Aug 1996, Josh Garza wrote:
>
>> and anyone konw wat the INdian Dancer shirt and animal collage have to do
with
>> any songs/albums/anything?
>
>	the indian dancer shirt (the version I have seen) is pretty much
>the pacific rim tour t-shirt, with the cities written on the back, but no
>tour dates.  

fyi, the same indian dancer (which i *love* -- it's durga if i'm not
mistaken) -- is also on the ancient sg poster for a performance at the Vogue
that i got at the record fair about a month ago.  clearly it's just an image
they were taken with.

- --caryn


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From: blind dog <s325961@student.uq.edu.au>
Subject: I can leave but I can't forget...

On Sun, 25 Aug 1996, Jamesetta Simpson wrote:

> > To tie this all to Soundgarden (how the hell am I going to do this?),
> > I would agree that Satanoscillatemymetallicsonatas is more likely a >
> joke than anything. I don't think the 'sonatas' part of it is > >

> Wowwwww, the list master agrees with the Village Idiot..  See great minds
> work  alike, well one great mind and one that's been around long enough

	I agree (not about the great minds thing, mind you), but just to
add to it a little, I'm sure that I read somewhere that they also used
'somms' because it is the longest known palindrome. it was just lucky that
it fit in with their music and sense of adventure :)


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                        a thousand doors, a thousand lies
                           rooms a thousand years wide 
			      - words by kim thayil
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From: endless_nameless@prodigy.com (GRRL NIKI   FREER)
Subject: Re: Re(3): S.O.M.M.S/BMF band shirt

Scroggin wrote:

>are we referring to the shirt with the SOMMS thing on the back and 
the
>smoking gun in the center <snip>

 where did you find this shirt? the only shirt i've ever found with 
anything to do with SOMMS is a black BMF shirt with the BMF/SOMMS 
photo from the album insert and the back says "the wreck is going 
down" in white. 

  mind riot

____
"It's a feeling everyone gets. Yr all happy with yr life, 
everything's going well, things are exciting-- when all of a sudden 
you realize yr unhappy in the extreme, to the point of being really, 
really scared. There's no particular event you can pin the feeling 
down to, it's just that you realize one day that everything in yr 
life is FUCKED!"  
 chris cornell

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From: Scroggin <metalica@roanoke.infi.net>
Subject: Re: Re(3): S.O.M.M.S/BMF band shirt

GRRL NIKI FREER wrote:
> 
> Scroggin wrote:
> 
> >are we referring to the shirt with the SOMMS thing on the back and
> the
> >smoking gun in the center <snip>
> 
>  where did you find this shirt? the only shirt i've ever found with
> anything to do with SOMMS is a black BMF shirt with the BMF/SOMMS
> photo from the album insert and the back says "the wreck is going
> down" in white.
> 
ok, i own 2 SOMMS related shirts , theres "the wreck is going down
shirt" which is a favorite of mine , and there is another shirt, on the
front of the other shirt is the BMF wheel encircled by the word
SOUNDGARDEN and on the back the words satanoscilatemymetalicsonatas are
encircled except in the center of the SOMMS is a smoking revolver....im
pretty sure i can dig up a picture of this one if you want to see it.

and i really need conformation from Seth or someone about that "louder
than fuck" shirt i mentioned.

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- -what is democracy????
- -i believe it has something to do with sending 
young men off to die.
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From: Josh_Garza@teachnet.edb.utexas.edu (Josh Garza)
Subject: Re(2): Re(3): S.O.M.M.S/BMF band shirt

hell yeh, gonna get it. wats the gun mean anyway? just wondering, cuz like a
gun on a shirt is termed 'bad' over here, not that i care though..

anyway any other shirts with the SOMMS thing on it? 
______________________________________________________________

metalica@roanoke.infi.net,Internet TeachNet Gatew writes:
are we refering to the shirt with the SOMMS thing on the back and the 
smoking gun in the center , if so then i have this shirt and its well 
worth the money just for the reason that it has the smoking revolver 
on the back and it says satanoscilatemymetalicsonatas encircled 
around the gun

go buy it now , you woln't regret it.




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From: erin@planet.eon.net
Subject: Re: you can wear it on your clothes...

>	the indian dancer shirt (the version I have seen) is pretty much
>the pacific rim tour t-shirt, with the cities written on the back, but no
>tour dates.
The one I sell has the dates on the back. I remember because one of the
dates was my birthday... Two different backs with the same front print?

>	speaking of the animal collage, I found a really cool 1994
>soundgarden u.s tour poster on the weekend. it has an extended collage
>reaching to all borders, with soundgarden in weird jimi hendrix-type
>written in blue at the top.  below this are the names of the various
>support acts from the tour (tad, you am I, eleven and the rev. horton),
>and in small white type around the edges are all the tour dates. already
>laminated, it only cost $18, and as an early christmas present it's tough
>to beat :)
We carry that poster where I work. We've had them for about a year, and
we've only sold 2. What's wrong with this world? (They're only $6.99
Canadian but they're not laminated.)



Erin.



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From: Chris Farley <hannibal@tiac.net>
Subject: FW: SG Parodies?


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From: 	Chris Farley[SMTP:hannibal@tiac.net]
Sent: 	Sunday, August 25, 1996 4:28 PM
To: 	'Badmotorfinger@nrunner.mil.wi.us'
Subject: 	RE: SG Parodies?



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From: 	Badmotorfinger@nrunner.mil.wi.us[SMTP:Badmotorfinger@nrunner.mil.wi.us]
Sent: 	Sunday, August 25, 1996 5:12 PM
To: 	somms@MIT.EDU
Subject: 	SG Parodies?


No...I don't have a life or anyhthing better to do in my spare time (except
listen to SG) :P


BMF

That is real apparent!!!!







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From: blind dog <s325961@student.uq.edu.au>
Subject: who's the guy on viola?

On Sat, 24 Aug 1996, The Guitarist-2001 wrote:

> Chronicle, for the sake of references...) in which they mentioned that while
> Superunknown sounded good, they didn't really like recording it . . . too
> technical ("...will take the simple act of recording a guitar and make it
> really complicated.") . . . they said they "sacrificed a lot of motivation
> as far as performance went." This is why Down On The Upside has a more raw
> sound to it. They just wanted to play and record without all the technical
> stuff.

	that's perfectly understandable. who would want to play the same 
guitar part twenty times in a row? it would quickly lose any spontaneity 
or meaning whatsoever.  but I still think that the production work on 
superunk is better than that on dotu.  dotu by itself has a good sound to 
it, but when I play it right after superunk, there seems to be something 
missing.

	there seems to be a couple of reasons as to why they wanted to do 
most of the production on dotu. the biggest one was that they felt that 
they didn't really *need* a producer, because for many bands a producer 
not only gets all the tones and stuff right, but actually assists in the 
arrangment of the music itself. the band obviously doesn't need any help 
in that department at this stage of their career. 

	rawness and spontaneity also seems to be high on their agenda. 
they must not have been able to feel the amount of energy in their last
few records that they wanted, on account of things like taking three days
to get a certain guitar tone on a single passage just right. that is more 
than fair enough, imho. it's their music, after all.

	one other reason I think they are moving to total control over
their sound is matt's drum sound.  on ltl, the drums are mixed pretty low,
with only the snare standing out at all.  since that record, they have
been focusing more attention on the drum sound. bmf was an improvement
(try holy water, for instance).  then came superunk, where the spotlight
fell fully on matt. his drums are *perfect* on that album.  I can't get
over how good his whole set sounds on songs like tdittl, limo wreck and
like suicide.  the same is true on dotu, but to a lesser degree. his drum
sound is great, but maybe I don't like it as much because it isn't coupled
with those loud and cruching riffs from bmf and superunk. 

	in the end, I think it will come down to experience. the band has
been co-producing/producing (or had some small part in the process) since
louder than love, so it will certainly come.  but I think they still have
a way to go before they can get the sorts of sounds that beinhorn and
brendan o'brien were able to make. but a case in point would be where I
first listened to undertow by tool, and then put on bleed together
straight after. the difference was, unfortunately, wide. 

	(perhaps) interesting point: while the band didn't like going
through parts over and over with beinhorn on superunk, I read that chris
kind of liked beinhorn because he was meticulous with the vocals. so even
though chris does smoke and drink (maybe to excess), he does care about
how he sounds on record. 

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                        a thousand doors, a thousand lies
                           rooms a thousand years wide 
			      - words by kim thayil
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From: Scroggin <metalica@roanoke.infi.net>
Subject: a call to arms......

THIS IS A CALL TO ARMS.

i vote that we all make an effort to find any or all members of 
SOUNDGARDENS home phone. Im sure you've all atempted this before 
but i think that as a group effort we have a better chance.

now WHEN we get there # we must then AS A GROUP decided who is going 
to call and what are they going to say.

i have faith that us crazed fans can find out a simple # 
so let me know who( besides me ) is up for the challenge. 

good luck and god speed.
- -- 
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- -what is democracy????
- -i believe it has something to do with sending 
young men off to die.
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From: Scroggin <metalica@roanoke.infi.net>
Subject: final word on SOMMS theroy.

well that post sure opened my eyes.=20

i think the joke theroy is a viable one also, you know SG always the=20
kidders. :=A4)
- --=20
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- -what is democracy????
- -i believe it has something to do with sending=20
young men off to die.
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From: Scroggin <metalica@roanoke.infi.net>
Subject: ohhhh Seth??

i need some conformation about a SG shirt that said "louder than fuck" 
on it ..
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- -what is democracy????
- -i believe it has something to do with sending 
young men off to die.
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From: caryn rose <clr@nwlink.com>
Subject: Re: a call to arms......

At 08:33 PM 8/25/96 -0400, Scroggin wrote:
>THIS IS A CALL TO ARMS.
>
>i vote that we all make an effort to find any or all members of 
>SOUNDGARDENS home phone. Im sure you've all atempted this before 

no, we haven't.  shroom asked for it as a joke.  why the hell would you want
to bother the members of the band at home?? do you realize what an intrusion
that would be?  who the hell are you to bother them at home?  

>now WHEN we get there # we must then AS A GROUP decided who is going 
>to call and what are they going to say.

just don't mention this list is all i have to say.  we don't want to be
associated with this kind of thing.  (i'm speaking for a lot of us, i hope
to hell).

it's one thing to try to get backstage, or even if you waited in the lobby
of their hotel politely, or if you see them out at a show, but to call them
at home is the lowest thing you could do.  why the hell do you think they
have to have unlisted numbers?

this isn't funny, this isn't a joke, this is immature and stupid.  leave the
poor men alone.  they don't owe you anything.  grow up.

- --caryn


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Subject: Re: a call to arms...... 
From: seth <saperl@MIT.EDU>


> i vote that we all make an effort to find any or all members of 
> SOUNDGARDENS home phone. Im sure you've all atempted this before 
> but i think that as a group effort we have a better chance.

i think a better idea would be to leave them alone. if they want to
hear from us, they'll ask. i'm reasonably sure soundgarden has enough
to do without having to deal with phone calls from "crazed fans."

seth


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From: Scroggin <metalica@roanoke.infi.net>
Subject: Re: a call to arms......

caryn rose wrote:
> 
> At 08:33 PM 8/25/96 -0400, Scroggin wrote:
> >THIS IS A CALL TO ARMS.
> >
> >i vote that we all make an effort to find any or all members of
> >SOUNDGARDENS home phone. Im sure you've all atempted this before
> 
> no, we haven't.  shroom asked for it as a joke.  why the hell would you want
> to bother the members of the band at home?? do you realize what an intrusion
> that would be?  who the hell are you to bother them at home?
> 
> >now WHEN we get there # we must then AS A GROUP decided who is going
> >to call and what are they going to say.
> 
> just don't mention this list is all i have to say.  we don't want to be
> associated with this kind of thing.  (i'm speaking for a lot of us, i hope
> to hell).
> 
> it's one thing to try to get backstage, or even if you waited in the lobby
> of their hotel politely, or if you see them out at a show, but to call them
> at home is the lowest thing you could do.  why the hell do you think they
> have to have unlisted numbers?
> 
> this isn't funny, this isn't a joke, this is immature and stupid.  leave the
> poor men alone.  they don't owe you anything.  grow up.
> 
> --caryn

(sniff, sniff) i thought it would be kinda neat just to call up and 
say i love soundgarden bla bla for about 5min and that would be that.
Im sorry i didn't mean anything by it , so sue me if i think it would 
be neat to call up the band and chat. (going off to impale himself on 
a rusty cage ....i mean nail)

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From: Chris Farley <hannibal@tiac.net>
Subject: Johnny Cash Rusty Cage

I thought that Johnny Cash version of Rusty Cage was great.  Do you have =
the full version of that on file?  If you do, could you please send it =
to me.  If you don't, could you tell me where I might find it?  Does =
American Records have their own page that might have it?

Thanks

Chris


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From: Josh_Garza@teachnet.edb.utexas.edu (Josh Garza)
Subject: OUTSHINED single

well i went to this store to buy the Burden In My Hand single, which they
didn't have, after i decided not to buy Launch because i didn't have money to
spend 10 bucks on a type of magazine..
anywAY..... i went into the used section, and like hidden from view under and
behind other CDS, i was lucky enough to find an OUtshinEd single.  i think its
pretty kool but anyway, i know there is more than one outshined single, so is
the one i have rare or anythign special?
its from Australia, its like silverish and has two tracks:Outshined and Cold
Bitch..
just a cardboard envelope around a cd disc is all it is basically
 just wondering some info about it because i can't get on the web and look for
it on the page...

thanx
laterz
- -pencapchew


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From: iawake@ix.netcom.com (Chris (SGardnGrl))
Subject: Re: MA CORNELL

You wrote: 
>
>At 10:24 AM 8/25/96 -0700, Chris (SGardnGrl) wrote:
>>I have to say... I feel that if Chris himself saw the article....and 
>>knew that the media was publisizing his mothers chosen career..(only 
>>for the fact that it's HIS mom) he might not be too happy about it. I 
  think that it might embarrass him somewhat. It's already evident, 
>>whenever he is asked about how he feels towards what his mother does 
>>for a living....  
>
>i don't know where you got that idea from
>This is what Karen does.  It's her 'profession'.
>It's to her advantage to have the media publicize it -- how else would 
she get paying customers????
>
It seems that you have taken what I said out of context...I am 
referring to how *Chris* might feel regarding the media attention 
toward his mom. Not about how it is to *her* advantage to have media 
attention. 
As to any quoted feelings that Chris may have made to the media 
regarding his moms 'profession, well, if I had actually been quoting 
him, then I would have used quotation marks in my statement. It was 
just an observation on my part.
 Yes, I agree totally, that it is to her advantage, but part of my 
point was... that it is also apparent that she would not be getting 
*such* media attention by doing her... 'profession', if she wasn't the 
mother of Soundgardens Chris Cornell. Now can you see my point.? 

>I don't recall Chris ever being embarassed about his mother's career 
perhaps private and not talking about it, which is a different thing.  
and also, it is HER life.... *shrug* i could be wrong here, i'm just 
asking...
>Caryn-- 

>Well, to answer your question, the quote never came out of his mouth, 
as far as I know... but in referance to his moms 'profession'....Chris 
has stated something along the lines as to *not really being into all 
that stuff*  Therefore, it was just *my own* observation, as to how 
Chris may react to seeing such a silly British tabloid article 
entitled: "Black Hole Mum."  ...I could easily see him rolling his eyes 
to such an article. As you can clearly see, I used the words: "I feel" 
and "I think that it might..." And that, being the other point I was 
trying to convey. Then again, we *both* could be wrong..........

SGardnGrl.

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From: Josh_Garza@teachnet.edb.utexas.edu (Josh Garza)
Subject: Re(2): Re(3): S.O.M.M.S/BMF band shirt

could u describe that more, how it looks....... you may already have, but did
but does it say satanoscillatemymetallicsonatas anywehre on there..?

- -pencapchew
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metalica@roanoke.infi.net,Internet TeachNet Gatew writes:
ok, i own 2 SOMMS related shirts , theres "the wreck is going down
shirt" which is a favorite of mine





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From: overfloater@thenexus.com
Subject: Re: a call to arms......

CL>just don't mention this list is all i have to say.  we don't want to be
CL>associated with this kind of thing.  (i'm speaking for a lot of us, i hope
CL>to hell).


well youre speaking for me =)  Hell, i wouldn't mind talking to sg on
the fone, but I wouldn't wanna bother them at home... I get scared
enough as it is going up to em for their autographs =)

CL>it's one thing to try to get backstage, or even if you waited in the lobby
CL>of their hotel politely, or if you see them out at a show, but to call them
CL>at home is the lowest thing you could do.  why the hell do you think they
CL>have to have unlisted numbers?

good lord i dont even have the nerve to go up to kim and chris and ask
em for their autographs when theyre standing on the sidewalk in front of
me =)  (true story... i'm still kicking myself to this day for not at
least TRYING to get their autografs)

well, my $.04.  why $.04?  cause i like bein different =)

chow..



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From: Aleko <alyberop@socs.uts.EDU.AU>
Subject: Re: Soundgarden at the big day out 97'

AAALLLLLLRRIGGGHHHTTT!!!!!!

WHOO HOO! 

YEAH!

HAPPY HAPPY JOY JOY!

Okay I'm calm now. Here is hoping that they play their own shows, i think
they will, and i hope  that their Sydney shows are NOT at Selinas. Maybe
the Metro? This is going to be one of the best Big Day Out's ever. 
If we decided to do the shirt thing again would i have mine before Jan 97?


On Sun, 25 Aug 1996, Stephen wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> Just got the news from the soundgarden fanclub that soundgarden
> *will* be at the Australian Big day out!!
> 
> Anyone else from the list going to the Melbourne one??
> 
> Stephen>
> 
> 



	"Rock n' roll doesn't have a soul, just a dick and a wallet"
			--- Kim Thayil


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From: Eliza J Polly <epolly@one.net>
Subject: RE: speaking of shirts

hey gang--

i used to work for a promotion company that makes t-shirts by the
zillions, many moons ago.....i could probably get a good deal (if i
can find my old boss) and i know they would be great quality.....if
you all decide to do it again, i'd be happy to check into it, if
anyone is interested.

since i wasn't around during that mess, how much did you each pay?  i
still remember what we used to charge, so i can compare.

- -eliza

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From: Eliza J Polly <epolly@one.net>
Subject: RE: speaking of shirts

actually, how many were made?  that is the bigger question...

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From: 	Eliza J Polly[SMTP:mail.one.net]
Sent: 	Monday, August 26, 1996 12:23 AM
To: 	'overfloater@thenexus.com'; 'somms@MIT.EDU'
Subject: 	RE: speaking of shirts
Importance: 	High

hey gang--

i used to work for a promotion company that makes t-shirts by the zillions, many moons ago.....i could probably get a good deal (if i can find my old boss) and i know they would be great quality.....if you all decide to do it again, i'd be happy to check into it, if anyone is interested.

since i wasn't around during that mess, how much did you each pay?  i still remember what we used to charge, so i can compare.

- -eliza

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From: SCOTT  MICHAEL MORROW <smmorrow@deakin.edu.au>
Subject: Next Song

Im not sure about you lot but on my dotu cover it had a sticker saying 
what singles feature on it and the only one not to be released which was 
listed was butow, like it or not it will be the next one.

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From: Scroggin <metalica@roanoke.infi.net>
Subject: Re: Re(2): Re(2): Re(3): S.O.M.M.S/BMF band shirt

Josh Garza wrote:
> 
> hey, thanx for drawing the picture, but errrr i can't see it. sorry, guess my
> mailbox won't allow it


yea well shit happens, the picture sucked anyway.

> but i do have a pretty good idea of what the shirt looks like, but i'm talking
> about the other one
> 
>  >this is probably the shirt you want, the other one im refering to has <
> >the picture from SOMMS on the front and says "the wreck is going <
> >down" on the back and it also has a little curly-q thing on the <
> >sleeve ,,,but im pretty sure the above shirt is the one your talking <
> >about.
> 
> wat exactly is the PICTure from SOMMS ..??
> and do you know where i could get this one? cuz the one with the BMF wheel on
> the front and the gun i can find, i just figured that out, but wondering if
> its possible to find the second one too.....
> 
> -pencapchew
> 

ok on to shirt #2 this is a real cool one and ive got an idea on how 
everyone can see this shirt 

im going to scan it then you go to the url where i put it, this way i 
don't end up confusing myself and everyone else.

ill have the picture done in about an hour .
the you get the url

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From: overfloater@thenexus.com
Subject: speaking of shirts

i agree, we should do em over again, and get em silkscreened and the
whole bit, with that funky dymo tape font over the left breast =)  and
make the 'posting with my good eye closed' a lil easier to read this
time.. the shirt that it's on, whatever brand it is, is a nice shirt,
it's good quality (better quality than a lot of the soundgarden
shirts are i think) and we should go withthe same brand shirts if we do
it again... hell, i'd do the shirts if i had a clue of how to go about
it.. =)  i have no life, and i could dedicate a lot of time to getting
shirts made, but i have no clue. =)  and btw, did someone say something
about the shirts being sent in boxes?  i got mine in some sort of
priority mail cardboard envelope.. like i care what type of container
its sent in, but im curious.. =)

chow



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From: Scroggin <metalica@roanoke.infi.net>
Subject: homemade forks..

just curious but does anyone other than me have a homemade fork 
necklace.
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From: Josh_Garza@teachnet.edb.utexas.edu (Josh Garza)
Subject: Re(2): Re(2): Re(3): S.O.M.M.S/BMF band shirt

hey, thanx for drawing the picture, but errrr i can't see it. sorry,
guess my mailbox won't allow it but i do have a pretty good idea of
what the shirt looks like, but i'm talking about the other one

 >this is probably the shirt you want, the other one im refering to has <
>the picture from SOMMS on the front and says "the wreck is going <
>down" on the back and it also has a little curly-q thing on the <
>sleeve ,,,but im pretty sure the above shirt is the one your talking <
>about.

wat exactly is the PICTure from SOMMS ..??
and do you know where i could get this one? cuz the one with the BMF wheel on
the front and the gun i can find, i just figured that out, but wondering if
its possible to find the second one too.....

- -pencapchew




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