From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Friday, 23 Aug 1996 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 01:59:21 EDT Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Friday, 23 Aug 1996 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: HMV network findings la rock sucks... one last sin... #10, Truly in Oz #11, or I don't mind Manchester Show Re: Shirtless in DC Re: Kim Thayil vs. the Smashing Pumpkins Re: i had a dream the other night The palindrome SOMMS FW: la rock sucks... FW: Death to my CD-ROM!! Courtesty of Alive in the Superunknown . . . Re[2]: Confirmation needed Re: thayil vs. corgan and co... Re: Do I have a problem? Re: FW: la rock sucks... Re: i had a dream the other night RE: thayil vs. corgan and co... Re: la rock sucks... A good laugh Seattle area KTMS meeting Re: la rock sucks... Re: la rock sucks... zing zang ZAP! Weird part of BIMH Holy shitzu!!!!!!! Voices in Boot Camp #SOMMS Chris a movie Star???? Happy Me.... Re: every thing I've held is what I've freed... total dweeb or what? sorry Re: la rock sucks... ------------------------------------------------------------ From: Chris Mackenzie Subject: HMV network findings I went to HMV today (a big record store chain in Canada), just to find out what sort of SG stuff you can order directly through their system. Anyways, apparently, the DOTU Box is already available, the network had it listed for something like $90CDN. This may disappoint some of you, but, 'Loudest Love' had been available on the network for some time but was recently deleted. There is also a book available called "The Making of Superunknown", has anyone heard of this? Both versions of the Burden single are available as well. BTW, does anyone know which Burden single contains the new tracks? Is it Part 1 or Part 2? - -- Chris Mackenzie - cmackenz@spots.ab.ca - The Unofficial Wellwater Conspiracy Homepage - http://www.spots.ab.ca/~cmackenz/ - "Wellwater tastes better than tap water any day!" - SWRJr. ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: la rock sucks... On Tue, 20 Aug 1996, caryn rose wrote: > matt cameron is a very DIFFERENT drummer than jack irons. and if i may > remind the list, the album to be released NEXT WEEK will be the first time > that we will hear jack irons playing pearl jam songs that were written > *with* him. what about mirrorball, caryn? or merkinball, better yet? > matt cameron is the best possible drummer in the world for soundgarden. on > t hat i will agree with you. but you don't think he would improve pearl jam's sound immensely? not only does matt (imho) easily outpace jack in every facet of drumming, but stone (possibly after playing with matt in totd) stated that matt would be the one drummer that he would *love* to be in a band with. I think that says it all, really. ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide - words by kim thayil ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: one last sin... On Thu, 22 Aug 1996, julie sloggett wrote: > 1. Does anybody object to me using this list and its members in my > discussion? I wouldn't use names or email addresses, so no one could be I can't see that something like this would be a problem to any lister worth his or her salt. if you can post to the list, then I'm wouldn't think you could have a problem with it. besides, seth has already done something a lot like this . > 2. Would any of you be willing to firstly answer a questionairre about the > list in general, and Soundgarden in particular for me? a questionaire is a great idea. if I had any spare time myself, I would set up a survey of my own, just to try and gauge the make-up of our list. I think the final results would make for a pretty interesting read. what are you thinking of putting in the questionaire, julie, just so we know in advance. ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide - words by kim thayil ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Eric Gardner Subject: #10, Truly in Oz The Truly cd will soon be winging its way to Ms. Hanel in the land down under. On to #11 Eric ------------------------------ From: Eric Gardner Subject: #11, or I don't mind stealing 10-grain bread from the mouth of a decadent yuppie. I have the cd single (again, just the cd itself, what happened to the case I do not know) for Hunger Strike, which also includes Your Saviour and All Night Thing, on the block for giveaway #11. It isn't time for the essay contest yet, so the usual rules apply.* Eric *The usual rules: email to enter, name picked at random, winner provides an address, que no se que y que no se cuanto... ------------------------------ From: Warren Dyson Subject: Manchester Show I'm going to the gig in Manchester on Sept. 17th with a few mates, so I'll submit a report for ya. If anyone wants to meet up on the day, drop me a line. Laters, Warren. ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Shirtless in DC From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) >Jamie, I'm not trying to rub this in but I got my shirt about a week ago. >Sorry SIS!! :-( > toni ARRRRRRRRGH!! Jamie (Village Idiot) ------------------------------ From: neo zeed Subject: Re: Kim Thayil vs. the Smashing Pumpkins On Wed, 21 Aug 1996, Mark Miller wrote: > Does anyone remember the Rolling Stone or Spin that covered that > huge Aussie day out fest a few years back (2 or 3) when SG and SP played > together. I remember reading the interview with SG and Billy > Corgan came into the room and said some stuff and then Kim and Chris said > some stuff and it didnt sound like they were getting along. Anyone > remember? Doesn't surprise me. As good as SP are (and they are *very* good, Billy Corgan is a very talented musician), they don't seem to like anybody - let alone themselves!! .bug ------------------------------ From: neo zeed Subject: Re: i had a dream the other night On Wed, 21 Aug 1996, MR SEAN M MCELENY wrote: > last night i dreamt i was saw a video on MTV for Never Named, It was > really neat, alot of squirells and bright colors, special effects in > nature and at the end the whole band was sleeping on the floor under > the same blanket! I think Never Named is going to be the next single, > why? because BUTOW is a little too similar to BIMH and NN is alays a > favorite of my non SG liking freinds.seannananana > Cool!! Never Named is one of my favourite songs on the new album. Someone on here said that Ben wrote the song when he was sixteen. Does anybody know if this is true or not? .bug ------------------------------ From: Marianne84@aol.com Subject: The palindrome SOMMS >The question about using SOMMS as an example of a palindrome >reminded me of a lovely experience I had in IRC >recently. I frequent the #chaos channel which, for those of you who >.on't know, is a trivia game in which two teams have one minute to list >the top ten answers to the given questions. In this particular instance, >the question at hand was "well-known palindromes." I of course reeled >off satanoscillatemymetallicsonatas asap. My reward? Not only was it >not one of the answers, but one of the channel ops warned me in a >whisper about using the word "satan" on a "family channel." Sheesh! >Can we say "fascist?" After that encounter, I guess I would be hesitant >to let a 12 year old use it as an example at school. There are still plenty >of people out there lacking that sense of humor gene. This was exactly my point - my son thinks it's funny. My son also had no trouble understanding that 'kill your mother' in Hands All Over was not about killing your mother. In fact, it's his favorite SG song - 'cause it's "A happy environmental song". What's kind of scary to me is that people my own age (28) can't seem to get past those lyrics, the use of the word Satan, or any other lyrics that may take more than a 1 time listen on the radio to understand. That's why I wouldn't let him take it to school. Hell, he takes crap from kids his own age because he has long hair. Anyway, I will let my son listen to just about anything and I only wish that more parents would do the same - then we might not have people freaking about about use of the word 'satan'. a little bit more than my .02 on this topic.... marianne ------------------------------ From: Chris Farley Subject: FW: la rock sucks... - ---------- From: Farley, Chris @ GOI Sent: Thursday, August 22, 1996 8:09 AM To: 'blind dog' Subject: RE: la rock sucks... TOTD is essentially Pearl Jam's musicians with Matt and it is killer!!! Jack's stuff he did with the cilli peppers was OK but the stuff he does = with PJ BLOWS!!!!! I have some boots with him on drums and he just = doesn't have the speed, finesse or skill that Abbruzzezze(sp?) or even = Kruzen have. The songs don't songs don't sound the same, there is = something missing. =20 Matt is a different player than Abbruzzezze(sp?) or even Kruzen, but = would add a hell of lot more to PJ than Irons does. IMHO.... Chris - ---------- From: blind dog[SMTP:s325961@student.uq.edu.au] Sent: Thursday, August 22, 1996 12:50 PM To: the garden Subject: la rock sucks... On Tue, 20 Aug 1996, caryn rose wrote: > matt cameron is a very DIFFERENT drummer than jack irons. and if i = may > remind the list, the album to be released NEXT WEEK will be the first = time > that we will hear jack irons playing pearl jam songs that were written > *with* him. what about mirrorball, caryn? or merkinball, better yet? > matt cameron is the best possible drummer in the world for = soundgarden. on > t hat i will agree with you. =20 but you don't think he would improve pearl jam's sound immensely?=20 not only does matt (imho) easily outpace jack in every facet of = drumming, but stone (possibly after playing with matt in totd) stated that matt would be the one drummer that he would *love* to be in a band with. I think that says it all, really.=20 ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide=20 - words by kim thayil ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Chris Farley Subject: FW: Death to my CD-ROM!! Courtesty of Alive in the Superunknown . . . - ---------- From: Farley, Chris @ GOI Sent: Thursday, August 22, 1996 8:02 AM To: 'The Guitarist-2001' Subject: RE: Death to my CD-ROM!! Courtesty of Alive in the = Superunknown . . .=20 Two discs should have been included. One is a disc of different cd and = video driver you might need to make it work. Try installing them and = see what happens. Chris - ---------- From: The Guitarist-2001[SMTP:Spoonman@worldnet.att.net] Sent: Thursday, August 22, 1996 2:10 AM To: somms@MIT.EDU Subject: Death to my CD-ROM!! Courtesty of Alive in the Superunknown . = . .=20 Well I got it. But of course, my wonderful luck kicked in and my Cd-Rom doesn't even believe that there's a CD in there. From what I've heard, = the only way to get that CD to work would be to get another CD-Rom. Which I can't exactly do at this time. Fortunately, I am able to listen to the = audio tracks (the acoustic version of Like Suicide has convinced me that SG = MUST do an acoustic set!), and my friend let me try it out on his computer . = . . of course now I'm even more angry than before, because that thing's even better than I expected! Why have I never seen the video for The Day I = Tried to Live? That's a damn good video . . . but back to the point: Before I have to return this thing, could anybody tell me where that Badmotorfinger wheel game thingy is? Or is that just the pong-like = thing? Or even better, does anybody know how I could get this thing to WORK?? ARRGH!! The Guitarist-2001 ------------------------------ From: HOLMEST@198.81.231.2.dstm.com Subject: Re[2]: Confirmation needed Seth wrote: 'So I am considering the rumor to officially be false. Sorry to get your pants in a bunch,' Hey, don't fret, Seth... my pants are always bunchy... ;) Later, Mr. Bunchypants ------------------------------ Subject: Re: thayil vs. corgan and co... From: tonerkin@usa.pipeline.com (Tonerkin) On Aug 21, 1996 13:06:00, 'jgrotelu@herbie.unl.edu (grote)' wrote: >thayil vs. corgan and co... I'll put 20 bucks on Thayil. He could whomp'im! First it was Heather to go down......next it will be BILLY!!!!!! toni ------------------------------ From: ar303921@student.uq.edu.au (Lee Christensen) Subject: Re: Do I have a problem? Hey ya A problem not even close :) >Count me in as one of those who always has a SG tape in her car stereo. Because I drive a diesel, my car makes a lot of noise so I end up blasting SG tunes on my speakers. On top of that, I sing along (only when no one else is in the car of course!). I'm sure other drivers think I'm nuts when they see my mouth move but no one sitting next to me! Hmm what do drivers thing of me when they see me bounching off the walls and the roof of my car...and that's when I am driving? Works well to JCP or Kyle Petty, or hell any old Sg seems to make me jump around a fair bit :) > >Alas, I ended up blowing out one of the car speakers, so I have an excuse to upgrade my sound system with speakers and a CD player. If anyone has any suggestions (not too pricey!) give me a shout! LOUD! :) Your not the only one with blown speakers, I would love a new system, but at least only one speaker is buggered so the rest work LOUD :) I bought one of those portalble CD's with car attachment things, it works, but a bit bulky, if you have the cash get a stack in the car, much easier to change cd. Ever try to get on of those bastards out of it's case while driving??? anyway TURN IT UP and shake the car :) Beware the SG listening drivers (this does not mention the SG listening in car = speeding debate we had before tho :) seeya Lee _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ SONIC E-mail ar303921@student.uq.edu.au Turn it UP and Play it LOUD!! Let the blood rush to your head!! CD I'm listening to this week: "YAY or NAY" by Sarbiem, another Bris band kicking butt ------------------------------ From: ar303921@student.uq.edu.au (Lee Christensen) Subject: Re: FW: la rock sucks... Sort of off the ball but about drumming anyway >TOTD is essentially Pearl Jam's musicians with Matt and it is killer!!! >Jack's stuff he did with the cilli peppers was OK but the stuff he does with PJ BLOWS!!!!! I have some boots with him on drums and he just doesn't have the speed, finesse or skill that Abbruzzezze(sp?) or even Kruzen have. The songs don't songs don't sound the same, there is something missing. >Matt is a different player than Abbruzzezze(sp?) or even Kruzen, but would add a hell of lot more to PJ than Irons does. Last PJ tour to OZ, Dave Grohl did drumming in the encore at a few shows, and I would have to say he kicked irons butt all around the stage, it was just so powerfull and amazing the songs just sounded so much better. And as for Matt on drums in some PJ songs, one could only dream, Abbruzzezz(sp?) I think did a better job too, but oh well. When you see two drumers at one show tho, it makes a sharp contrast. ok ok I'll stop the off topic posts Seeya Lee _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ SONIC E-mail ar303921@student.uq.edu.au Turn it UP and Play it LOUD!! Let the blood rush to your head!! CD I'm listening to this week: "YAY or NAY" by Sarbiem, another Bris band kicking butt ------------------------------ From: HQXH39C@prodigy.com (MR SEAN M MCELENY) Subject: Re: i had a dream the other night yeah Ben sia dhe wrote it ewhen he was 16, never named ------------------------------ From: COCHRAN_BONNIE/SBCTC@ctc.ctc.edu Subject: RE: thayil vs. corgan and co... Just to add a little more to the Kim vs SP thread... Below is another excerpt from the May 13 KISW radio transcription. Scott Vanderpool brings up the subject. ****** The Late Kathy Faulkner: When Scott Vanderpool talked to all four members of SG, of course, Lollapalooza came up: Scott Vanderpool: Um, Lollapalooza. Perry Farrell said he was backing out of the thing because he said they were too main stream. Chris Cornell: Uh, bye Perry. Oh yeah. SV: What do you think? CC: I don't know, um... SV: Do you feel like you're really mainstream now, or something? CC: Uh, not because were playing with Metallica. I don't know, there's a lot of main stream bands on Lollapalooza over the years. Kim Thayil: Yeah, they've never had a Smashing Pumpkins or Pearl Jam or the Chili Peppers. CC: Or Green Day (laughter). But then you know, um, Perry made a lot of money off of a lot of those shows... ?: Off of parking. CC: ...and you know.... ?: I think Ferry Apparel is more mainstream than those guys (more laug= hter). SV: Speaking of Billy Corgan. ?: Uhh, ohh... ?: That's what he capitalizes on, to make more money. SV: Kim, did you really make Corgan cry? KT: Uhhh, ask Matt. Matt Cameron: I was there and um... SV: Did he cry? MC: Well, let's put it this way, (he [Billy] was bitching..) he was on the phone all night to his therapist. ?: Yeah that's true. (back in the states) That s actually true. But h= ey... ?: talk to the Ramones.. SV: What happened? MC: Kim was a little bit salty that day and um... ?: We all survived like the worst plane ride of our lives... ?: And we didn t have anything... ?: And we went straight to the bar... KT: We were all very drunk at the time. ?: Yeah, and we had nothing to lose... CC: No, no, no. ?: And the power went out in the control center... KT: We were drinking beer and scotches and Billy was drinking strawberry daiquiris or mai tais. (background stuff hard to make out-they were all shooting out comments at the same time) SV: The old stuff, what stands up, what do like the best out of things you ve done in the past? CC: It all... KT: Gish is our favorite album that we've done to this date. (busts up laughing and everyone else too) SV: Which one? KT: Gish. SV: Gish? ?: Um, I like Abbey Road... KT: Don't say that, you re gonna make me cry. Not nice to pick on me, oh wait, I'm not me. SV: All right. (didn t get something here) CC: They all stand up, they all stand the test of time. Wouldn't you s= ay? KT: See, people aren't gonna like us, that I didn't cry... CC: Scott, where you going? ?: Is the CD over already? KT: They're not sensitive enough. We actually like the Smashing Pumpki= ns. SV: Oh, you say that now. CC: Kim, you re dead, they got it on tape. ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: Re: la rock sucks... On Thu, 22 Aug 1996, blind dog wrote: > On Tue, 20 Aug 1996, caryn rose wrote: > > > matt cameron is a very DIFFERENT drummer than jack irons. and if i may > > remind the list, the album to be released NEXT WEEK will be the first time > > that we will hear jack irons playing pearl jam songs that were written > > *with* him. > > what about mirrorball, caryn? or merkinball, better yet? mirror ball was a *NEIL YOUNG* album. not pearl jam. although having said that, jack's performance in san francisco when eddie got sick and we got two wonderful hours of neil jam instead was brilliant. he played all the neil 'hits' (like you can call 'cortez the killer' a 'hit') beautifully. merkinball was written *before* jack was in the band. those are old songs. and i like his performance on those songs meself. they aren't exactly 'big drum' songs. > > matt cameron is the best possible drummer in the world for soundgarden. on > > t hat i will agree with you. > > but you don't think he would improve pearl jam's sound immensely? > not only does matt (imho) easily outpace jack in every facet of drumming, > but stone (possibly after playing with matt in totd) stated that matt > would be the one drummer that he would *love* to be in a band with. I > think that says it all, really. EVERYONE in their right mind would want to be in a band with matt. every band in seattle tried to get matt,if i'm not mistaken. my only point was, blind dog, that i want to hear jack play on an album of songs written when he was in the band and then see him play live on these songs *BEFORE* raising judgement. jack is m ore of a jazz-type drummer, more buddy rich than anything, and i don't think you can evaluate him against someone like matt cameron, who yes, can play ANYTHING he sets his mind to. matt's a big rock drummer. barrett martin (who i think should have joined PJ) is a big rock drummer. and dave grohl is a HUGE rock drummer (and yes, i've heard those tapes of PJ in australia and i agree wholeheartedly that he would have been great). it's like when keith moon died and kenney jones joined the who. poor kenney. who can stand in keith moon's shoes? no one. but everyone forgets the amazing drumming he did with the faces ... 'every picture tells a story' for one. but still, to measure his playing on songs that were written and recorded with keith almost wasn't fair. (not that i'm comparing jack irons to either of them... matt cameron, yes, i think he will go down in rock history as one of the all-time greats, but no, not jack). and please do not deluge me with your reviews of "no code". it's great that you've heard the record. i'm an old-timer, i can wait, i'll buy it next tuesday and make up my mind then. trust me that i have probably heard more hours of jack irons with pearl jam than most people on here. ;-) (and blind dog, if you REALLY want to read what i think about jack's drumming, go read the pj stuff on my home page, http://www.nwlink.com/~clr). - --caryn can we get off this pearl jam / nirvana thread already??? ------------------------------ From: vman@ctdnet.acns.nwu.edu (Vasant Ramamurthy) Subject: A good laugh Yesterday, I was talking to my brother about music and lyrics and stuff. We were discussing bands that are great musically but suck lyrically, and vice versa. I asked him what he thought about Soundgarden. He said, "Soundgarden is great lyrically, but could be better musically." As you might expect, I rolled on the floor, dying of laughter. It was just so funny. Hope you enjoyed a good laugh too. Vasant ****************************************************************************** THE REFUGE OF THE DAMNED - Check out lots o' music stuff here!! http://ctdnet.acns.nwu.edu/~vman/me.html vman@ctdnet.acns.nwu.edu "When new damage comes, it's a new word for plague, a new world order, a new word for hate" - New Damage - Soundgarden ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: Seattle area KTMS meeting When: Friday, 8/23 (that's tomorrow) Where: Mural Ampitheatre, Seattle Center Why: Free Inflatable Soule concert Time: 6pm Who: myself, the list thug, andrea, bonnie, vikki anselmo and more chris and i arrive between 5-5:30 pm and will set up camp in the usual spot, immediately to the left of the house soundboard (that's house left, not stage left). i'll be wearing the *&^% somms shirt and a tan UOK cap. more info or questions, email me. we'll arrange for some activity around refreshments following the show. - --caryn KTMS sergeant-at-arms ------------------------------ From: "Dan \"Pop-tart\" Hearsch" Subject: Re: la rock sucks... On Thu, 22 Aug 1996, blind dog wrote: > On Tue, 20 Aug 1996, caryn rose wrote: > > > matt cameron is a very DIFFERENT drummer than jack irons. and if i may > > remind the list, the album to be released NEXT WEEK will be the first time > > that we will hear jack irons playing pearl jam songs that were written > > *with* him. > > what about mirrorball, caryn? or merkinball, better yet? > > > matt cameron is the best possible drummer in the world for soundgarden. on > > t hat i will agree with you. > > but you don't think he would improve pearl jam's sound immensely? > not only does matt (imho) easily outpace jack in every facet of drumming, > but stone (possibly after playing with matt in totd) stated that matt > would be the one drummer that he would *love* to be in a band with. I > think that says it all, really. > > ----------------------------------- > a thousand doors, a thousand lies > rooms a thousand years wide > - words by kim thayil > ----------------------------------- > > > but would eddie vedder's musical style mix well with matt's? chris' obviously does, but i'm not sure eddie could handle the syncopation and other quirks of matt's drumming. eddie really isn't much of a musician, so much as he is a song writer, while chris (as well as every other person in the band) has their own stuff (yeah, good english, i know), and have proven themselves individually good musicians in many aspects. eddie just couldn't cut having matt behind him ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: Re: la rock sucks... On Thu, 22 Aug 1996, Dan "Pop-tart" Hearsch wrote: > but would eddie vedder's musical style mix well with matt's? chris' > obviously does, but i'm not sure eddie could handle the syncopation and > other quirks of matt's drumming. eddie really isn't much of a musician, so > much as he is a song writer that sentance is contradictory. perhaps you mean to say that eddie's obvious strength is as a lyricist? > while chris (as well as every other person in > the band) has their own stuff (yeah, good english, i know), and have > proven themselves individually good musicians in many aspects. eddie just > couldn't cut having matt behind him a band is a grouping of individuals who mesh together. if they don't mesh together, then they aren't successful. matt and eddie's styles would probably change if they worked together. eddie's vocals are more subtle than chris', but you can't categorically state that eddie just couldn't cut having matt behind him until it happened, thank you very much. care to give some examples in pearl jam's music that would demonstrate that eddie would be unable to 'cut it' with matt cameron as a drummer? dave a was a very strong 'big rock drummer', not as subtle or as intricate as matt, but just as loud and big imo, and eddie worked VERY well with him. - --caryn ------------------------------ From: Dicknail Subject: zing zang ZAP! hey everyone... yeah yeah yeah you all know a lurker when you see one.. woo hoo heheh anyway... i wuz just woonderin, i found a copy of Subpop 200 yesterday.. its a re-issue and an import.. its on CD not the four record box set of the original but can anyone tell me what else is different about it from the original? i only paid $15 for it so its not a bust even if it isnt a great find hehe anyway woo hoo... im a kim fan... so shoot me.. heheh or just take my camera away.. wow im not making sense!! aacckk i better go before uhh... i die or soemthing nasty like that... bye bye *back to lurkerdom* Justine ___ __ __ ___ __ ____ ___ _____ __ __ __ / __)( )( )/ __) /__\ ( _ \ / __)( _ )( \/ ) /__\ \__ \ )(__)(( (_-. /(__)\ ) /( (__ )(_)( ) ( /(__)\ (___/(______)\___/(__)(__)(_)\_) \___)(_____)(_/\/\_)(__)(__) "I have a pocket full of paper pamphelts I'm spreading my faith out on the concrete I hang my hands from my hips - bite my lip I watch the wind blow trash back in my face." -The GAnDhArvAS ------------------------------ From: Mark Miller Subject: Weird part of BIMH What are the lines right after "follow me into the desert as desperate as you are"? All I can make out is what sounds like moon, picture, heaven, and all the little things... Mark ------------------------------ From: SkyVista96@aol.com Subject: Holy shitzu!!!!!!! Ohmygawd!! They just played "Rhinosaur" on the radio here in Dallas. It's the first SG song off of DOTU besides "Pretty Noose" and "BIMH" that I've heard on the radio here. They were doing a "triple shot" of SG and they played FoBD and another song (I'm so blown away I can't remember which), then they finished with "Rhinosaur". I 'bout shit in my pants, seriously. So what does this mean? Is it the next single? Or is this a really old song on the radio where you are and it doesn't mean didley-squat? I'm just wondering 'cause this station isn't known for releasing anything that isn't released or very soon to be released except for local bands, so what's happening here? Amber ------------------------------ From: Mark Miller Subject: Voices in Boot Camp I think I asked this before but I did not receive any replys. Can anyone make out what is being said in the beginning of Boot Camp right up to the start of the first verse? I have a crappy stereo in lab but it sounds like it is only in the left speaker. Mark ------------------------------ From: Chris Farley Subject: #SOMMS I have finally got through to the undernet. Somebody please go to #SOMMS for chat!!!!! Chris ------------------------------ From: iawake@ix.netcom.com (Chris (SGardnGrl)) Subject: Chris a movie Star???? I was wondering if any of you read the recent article (can't remember which mag I saw it in..) Where Chris says he was asked to be in the movie "Usual Suspects"..? He goes on to say that he never has had any desire to be an actor..but after watching the movie himself, and remembering that he was asked to play the part of "the fence guy??" (don't ask me who this was..I fell asleep during the movie) that he was somewhat admittedly regretful of not taking the part. I don't know about the rest of you...but I would get a great big kick out of seeing Chris act in ANY movie! What do you all think?.... Do you think Chris could believably pull off being an actor??? My husband says NO. (don't compare his part in Singles...that was not acting...so it doesn't count!) I am going to go back and see if I can find the magizine that I read this in, and buy it this time! I will post the paragraph in which he says this... Oh..and Marianne....I think that I might have beat you out.... in the regards of being the list member with the oldest child. My daughter will be 14 this Oct. SGardnGrl. ------------------------------ From: iawake@ix.netcom.com (Chris (SGardnGrl)) Subject: Happy Me.... I had to post and say...that I am Happy Now! I found the new 97' SG calender...to go along with my 96' calender. The new photos are great! Also..found an "autographed" Temple Of the Dog poster. I love it...Chris signed over matts face...Eddie signed over Chris face, Matt signed over Stones face, Stone signed over Jeffs face and Jeff signed over Eddies face. (did you get that?) I only paid $20.00 for it..the guy was asking $38.00 but I buy a lot of SG from him at the record swap meets..so he gave me a break. :) Now...if I can get my hands on the club promo of "Pretty Noose" Ltd. 300. Seth, you could be adding me to that list of lucky people...it pays to have a freind that is a Rep for A&M! He just got me the Burden..single, and last month..he got me "Into the Upside" promo interview CD. And don't forget the...Advanced promo release of "Down On The Upside" almost two weeks before anyone else had it! SGardnGrl. ************************************************************************ "I don't care what you got I don't care what you need Pretty Noose I don't want anything" <<<< Subject: Re: every thing I've held is what I've freed... I was going to reply to Mr. Bunchypants' original, but I deleted it... At 02:59 PM 8/20/96 +0000, Jamie wrote: >> A lot of SG lyrics and song titles seem bind togethter words or >> phrases that protray massively different feelings - on different ends >> of the spectrum. I know there are more examples of this, but these >> are all I could think of right now. Has anyone else noticed this? >> Later, Mr. Bunchypants > >Great list! > >I have always felt Chris's writing was mostly done in metaphors. I like how he gives >you one line and you can use it in many ways. Then you can see one meaning for a >verse and someone else can read something totally different in it. I believe this is >why there is such a diversity of personality with in the Soundgarden fan club. SG >fans are not very stereotyped. We cover a large range of life styles and age range, >because SG music reaches so many different levels... > >Jamie >(Village Idiot) > > Agreeing with both of these, I have always thought of Soundgarden (including all lyric-writers of the band (Matt, write some lyrics!)) as the most poetic band out there . . . I've never been a huge Alice and Chains fan (although I did like them on Unplugged), so I'll avoid that comparison, but people were also comparing SG to Pearl Jam . . . it was mentioned that PJ's songs are more straightforward, whilst SG songs have more "surprises" . . . and this is almost exactly what I mean (lyricwise)...Eddie's lyrics always seem to be quite direct, telling a story (Jeremy, Alive...), or just saying something straightforward (Go, Porch...)...whilst SG songs are really indirect and open to interpretation (keeping in mind our long discussions of the meanings of Burden in My Hand, and now Slaves and Bulldozers...) . . . if you read Pearl Jam lyrics, it's like reading a short story (Jeremy is based on a true story), but with Soundgarden it's like reading poetry (Black Hole Sun, Mind Riot) . . . alrighty I'm done. Oh and contradictions are also I thing I truly love . . . I try to use them myself in my songs etc. . . . my band is actually changing our name right now, and one of our choices is "Organized Insanity" The Guitarist-2001 ------------------------------ From: dbradsh@unity.ncsu.edu Subject: total dweeb or what? you know, i read all these requests to unsubscribe and their reasons are always "too much mail", am i just a total dweeb (be nice now) or does anyone (everyone) else get as much pleasure and amusement out of reading everyones posts...even the flame wars get interesting at times, as does the silliness etc...i cant imagine anymore logging on and not recieving SOMMS mail...if i dont have any, i immediatly think the worlds come to an end...hell sadly enough, most of my personal mail these days is from people i have met on the list...(loser get a life)<------me that is...:) anyway, in a kinda thoughtful mood and thought id share those thoughts... D ******************************************************************************** Dee Dee Bradshaw-Autry "Tie me up and beat me...I'll always beg for more...Just smile so discreetly as you're exiting my door..." Inflatable Soule http://www.angelfire.com/pages1/deedee/index.html "The shortest distance between two points may be a straight line, but the longest distance between them is `life'." SubG "Sleep tight for me...I'm gone..." Sound Garden ******************************************************************************** ------------------------------ From: "Burris, Benjamin CDT " Subject: sorry Soundgarden has always been and will always be my favorite band (with 311 coming in at a very close second). I go to West Point and what sucks is that at West Point you cannot listen to music for the first semester! A freedom has been taken away. Just think no sg for approximately 4 months. i have not listened to a sg song in 8 weeks. That is wrong. We should get a petition or something against it. This is our governnent taking away a right, an art. They are actually taking away an art. Unbelievable. I love music. Music is life music is everything. Music is harmony. It is something to wake up to, to chill to, to study to, and something to go to sleep to. This is a total travesty. All i can ask is why. If you read the lyrics to "Boot Camp" on Down on the Upside it is exactly right. That is exactly what i did this summer. It says, "i must obey the rules/no staring at the clouds/like babies on display/in clusters of the mice. That is exactly what i did. SG coming out with that song was totally appropriate. But i am really pissed about not having music until December. There must be something we can do. Please write back and tell me your views. "Out in the sunshine the sun is mine"--Burden in my Hand Cadet Benjamin Burris USMA ------------------------------ From: "Dan \"Pop-tart\" Hearsch" Subject: Re: la rock sucks... eddie's strength did not lie in intricate or extremely sophisticated vocakls, his strength was in his expression and power, for lack of a better term. his range isn't anything spectacular, and is somewhat limited, although pearl jam do what many bands can't, and that is sound much on stage like they do in the studio, with the ability of not being milli vanilli. and that statement was not at all contradictory, being a musician and being a songwriteare are two entirely different things. ex. green day, songwriters all, but i would hardly call them musicians. they jam together, but i doubt they sit down with pencil and paper and do arrangements and what-not. and don't impose gender roles on me ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 2 Issue 222] ****************************************