From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Monday, 19 Aug 1996 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 15:56:55 EDT Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Monday, 19 Aug 1996 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: Re: sg on vacation Soundgarden themes Family AUGH Re: boycott #somms Re: RE: One of the banned #10 Re: boycott #somms #somms Sg stuff... maybe.. if you're good... Re:Undernet application the subject of the week kyuss into the void. Fwd: RE: Come on get happy! grote's arrival... record fairs and #somms It's not the heat...It's the humidity We have a winner..../SOMMS despite all my rage... Re: despite all my rage... Re:Undernet application T-shirt tub is bubblin Re:Undernet application do we all bleed together? Re: record fairs and #somms ------------------------------------------------------------ From: ShRooMGrLz@aol.com Subject: Re: sg on vacation The evil list monster writes: ;-) >so, what does everyone think the band is doing with their time off? >doing laundry? sitting on the beach? going fishing? renewing their >passports? Laundry? You mean all three of the shirts that Kim takes on tour with him? Quite possibly. Killing fish? Maybe. Rolling around in the sand? Hmmm... let's just take a moment to ponder that one... mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm... umm, oops... sorry. Passport renewal? Nah, I think you only have to get your passport renewed every ten years, or something. Doubt that they're up for that just yet. Kim is probably hanging out with friends, drinking beer, and maybe attending a court date. Ben is probably dreaming of all the European people he's gonna be able to spit on in the next couple months. Matt is probably sitting in front of his computer, reading our posts, and laughing his ass off at us. Chris is probably spending quality time with Susan before he leaves (while secretly dreaming of one red-haired devil, of course... heheheheh). Ummm... when exactly ARE they leaving? The European dates run from September 16 to October 18th, right? Heheheh... oh yeeeeeaaaahhh... they'll have plenty of time to get back to Seattle before I get up there. =) Life is good sometimes. HEY MATT!! You're still invited to hang out with us at the OK!!! And you can even bring along Wolfboy, if you wish. We're nice like that. ;-) Shroom Red Haired Devil-Hootchie, Proud member of the Kim Thayil Mercenary Squad, and Seattle-bound-obsessed-SOMMS-psycho (See you in October, Chris and Matt!!!) "My Porsche is a deluxe model. It has all the amenities... not to mention RECLINING leather seats. Hey Shroom, wanna go for a... ride?" ~ Chris Cornell (Words not necessarily said in that order...) <~~~ my disclaimer ------------------------------ From: Chris Farley Subject: Soundgarden themes http://www.95themes.com/music.html They have all kinds of themes for win95, and a SG one too! Chris ------------------------------ From: cgoodman@maine.com (Carole Goodman) Subject: Family AUGH Does any kind generous person out there be will to copy the videos for Hunger Strike, 1st pretty noose, 2nd pretty noose and BIMH for me? None of those get alot of airplay and I don't have the time to watch mtv. I had them all but then my dumbfuck sister recorded over it. Halfway through Hunger Strike. I see starwars. I can't say anything to her because my parents will sat "there's more to life than Soundgarden" So I have been throwing things. Just venting my frustration. Please and thank you if anyone can do that for me. Ivy =20 GIF87a=D4=01/ ------------------------------ From: Badmotorfinger@nrunner.mil.wi.us Subject: Re: boycott #somms Damnit, I want to boycott the channel too, but i don't know the server adress I'm supposed to be boycotting :) BMF ------------------------------ From: Badmotorfinger@nrunner.mil.wi.us Subject: Re: RE: One of the banned See, I'm not understanding this. Why do we NEED Jason? I mean, irc-2.mit.edu works fine, why doesn't everyone point their damn (Im saying damn a lot today) irc client to that or another server adress, and pick a time and post it to the list. Why is channel registration neccesary? You can see my great knowledge of the damned irc :-) BMF ------------------------------ From: Eric Gardner Subject: #10 Be-cause I'm Truleeeeeeeeeeeeeee....(sorry, bad memories) This giveaway is for all the Hiro Yamamoto fans out there. It is the Truly cd, Fast Stories...From Kid Coma. Musical comments aside, I think "Leslie's Coughing Up Blood" is one of the greatest song titles ever.:) Usual rules apply: Email to enter Name picked at random Winner (only) provides an address Preference given to members of the somms list:) Eric ------------------------------ From: Mayor McCheese Subject: Re: boycott #somms From what I've heard, this is fucking sick . . . . Obviously this guy is just out to play. I recently downloaded a war/protection script for IRC and I plan on learning it ASAP . . . and I WILL retake that god forsaken channel. The channel was set up for extraneous conversation to keep it off the list . . . If nothing else, I plan on filing a complaint with the IRCops to get him booted off of it. Unfortunately, ettique isn't abound on IRC and the last vestage of power it seems rests on IRCops. Mayor McCheese XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX *** Time to Play the McCheese "Name the Fav" Game *** Just Reply to me with the Song Title and Artist And I'll tell you your cool or something "Hubba Hubba Zoot Zoot Hubba Hubba Zot Zot A Nam Nam" *** If you know who sings this song, e-mail me now, you're cooler than anyone I've ever met *** ------------------------------ From: "Steven Russell Jr." Subject: #somms Hey list! straight from the undernet channel service guidelines: > Objections > ~~~~~~~~~~ > > (i) Users have 14 days in which to make an objection to the Channel > Service being placed on a channel email: cservice@undernet.org tell them you don't want Maliki to register the channel. > Registering a channel > ===================== > > (i) Make sure that you have read these guidelines carefully, and are > willing to use the channel service (X) in conjunction with the > rules of use. > (ii) Fill out the form below (copy available by anonymous ftp to: > ca.undernet.org:/pub/undernet/CS > (iii) Post this to cservice@undernet.org I can register the channel #somms (I think?), if so...I'll need 10 people's nicknames and email address's (send them to srussell@epix.net or swr@acsu.buffalo.edu). Once I recieve 10 people's nick's and address (I won't make them up like you know who)...I will post a message saying I sent the document. If someone else has started this...email me and I'll post any info that should be passed on. Remember to email the IRCops to voice your displeasure over Maliki's registration. Anything else? Are we too late? Steve ------------------------------ From: infinite Subject: Sg stuff... maybe.. if you're good... first, i thought nothingman's personal address was still on the page = under the ordering info in the list page.. hmmm..=20 i still can't believe all of you haven't got your shirts.. i wasn't = around to order them (or maybe i was and didn't realize it) but it's = been quite a long time.. you all should go complain to the post office = people.. they can be slow, but this is ridiculous..=20 once again i'll ask.. does anyone know anything about a us tour?? = maybe i'll hear something another thing, is the burden single not in the us? import only? infinite ps i took my GED test saturday, it was easy!! took like 4 hrs though ------------------------------ From: oponfam@cnsnet.com Subject: Re:Undernet application I withdraw my support from the application too. Kathie ------------------------------ From: Eliza J Polly Subject: the subject of the week Um, okay, since everyone and their mom is emailing me to get the latest scoop on #somms, I will try to take care of it in one shot. For anyone who doesn't care, my apologies. As of last night, we were allowed back into #somms, the regular original #somms. Jason was in there, but allowed us in (what a gift....um, sorry, i am done fuming). Aaron and I attempted to make some sort of peace with him so that he wud leave us alone. He didn't respond, but eventually gave us ops (another almighty gift). He never said a word, but eventually left the room. He did return, however, later on and never said a thing but was ever-present. Eventually he took off. So, i guess, ignoring an attention-starved idiot works!! It sucks that he even exists on undernet, but at least we did not have to keep running from the loser. OK, enuf said, that is the current news for any who care. - --eliza epolly@one.net And I've been caught in a mind riot I'm tied within I'm luck's last match struck In the pouring down wind ------------------------------ From: Enrique Olavarria Subject: kyuss into the void. i read on the kyuss homepage that Man's Ruin Records is releasing a kyuss 2 song album which includes a cover of Black Sabbath's "Into the Void". this should be interesting. anyone got it? is it as good as the soundgarden version? i already emailed Mr. Kozik to see if there's any chance i can get a copy. adios. enrique. - -holiday in chaco ------------------------------ From: iawake@ix.netcom.com (Chris (SGardnGrl)) Subject: Fwd: RE: Come on get happy! - ---- Begin Forwarded Message Return-Path: Received: from dove.mtx.net.au (root@dove.mtx.net.au [203.15.24.1]) by ixmail1.ix.netcom.com (8.7.5/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id DAA04272; Sun, 18 Aug 1996 03:47:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ppp02n.mtx.net.au (ppp02n.mtx.net.au [203.15.26.102]) by dove.mtx.net.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id UAA29457 for ; Sun, 18 Aug 1996 20:20:12 +0930 Received: by ppp02n.mtx.net.au with Microsoft Mail id <01BB8D42.7FFA7920@ppp02n.mtx.net.au>; Sun, 18 Aug 1996 20:19:03 +-9-30 Message-ID: <01BB8D42.7FFA7920@ppp02n.mtx.net.au> From: Carolyn Hanel To: "'Chris (SGardnGrl)'" Subject: RE: Come on get happy! Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 20:19:00 +-9-30 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>just some pretending to be more high & mighty, that they feel they won't lower themselves to answer any "newbies" questions...It's the "OH Honey, where have YOU been???"... Syndrome. Quite frankly, IT IS SAD! Lets just get off our high horses shall we?????? Hey Chris, you said it better than I did in the couple of posts I made!! :-) What a champ you are......... Cheers, Carolyn. Carolyn, I was glad you, Terry and Niki agree with me.....Your posts were on the mark too! I don't want to start a flame war..we have had TOO many of those already, but I just was so sick and tired of people being so cruel and hostile towards others. I wanted to convey the feelings of others like me who feel this kind of unprovoked maliciousness should stop. Also, this IRC #Somms power trip thing is very disheartening as well. Why do people feel they need to be superior over others...(a human instinct that we can all do without, as for as I'm concerned. At times , I feel a bit embarrased to know that Matt Cameron reads the digest...reading how immature some of their fans can be....all I know is...I don't want to be lumped into that catagory, just for being a proud member of the digest. I'm sure many others feel the same way. I just hope that people can start being a little nicer to each other in the respect of having a common interest. Seth- Sorry for this non Soundgarden related post... SGardnGrl ------------------------------ From: jgrotelu@herbie.unl.edu (grote) Subject: grote's arrival... hey all... on the subject of subscribing to the list via means other than the web page (i think caryn was involved with this discussion, if i'm not mistaken...) i was one of the original subscribers to the list back in summer '95, and i subscribed after seeing some sort of message about it in the newsgroup. (seth, do you remember anything about this? i can't recall if it was a promo message from you or someone else, or just a mention of the list in someone's post or what...any recollections???) i didn't get web access until mid-fall '95, and i don't think i even looked at the page until early december. (i know, i know, bad grote...bad grote...) :) ANYWAY...the point is that i found out about the list in a newsgroup and subscribed via a direct message to seth saying something like: "hey...uhh...you're cool. subscribe me to your cool mailing list or something." all without any web access whatsoever... and that's the truth, PBTHPBTHPBTH!!! (picture a girl in an oversized rocking chair. sesame street. anyone? anyone?) :) later... - -- ######################################################################## # GROTE!!!!! "I don't remember half the time # # If I'm hiding or I'm lost # # jgrotelu@herbie.unl.edu But I'm on my way....." -Chris Cornell # ######################################################################## ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: record fairs and #somms well, not too great today, but not too bad. BMF on vinyl, a great two-sided bmf poster.. (and a husker du record for $3, if you must know. ;-) ). pretty slim pickings this time around. cellophane square here in seattle has a copy of louder than live for **$75**. sheesh! if you're desparate, they have a web site : http://www.cellophane.com. it's there, which is all i can say about it... and as to the channel, gang, fuckface is probably reading the digests off the web site, so by talking about it here we're continuing it. i suggest a cc list for anyone who is active on irc. - --caryn ------------------------------ From: "Steven Russell Jr." Subject: It's not the heat...It's the humidity Hey list Just wanted to share a nugget of info about why SG never gets the deluxe boot treatment. Here is a quote from a personal email sent to me this week. ..."who made Pearl Jams "Hallucingenic >Recipe", Nirvana's "Into the Black" and Tori Amos's "Tori Stories" ( the >best and most complete) box sets; but everytime I ask him about >Soundgarden he goes off about how Soundgarden doesn't boot well and they >dont sell well..." In a way, you can be thankful that SG hasnt recieved the deluxe bootleg treatment. I've seen copies of the 3 boots listed above for as high as $120 for a 5CD set. Remember: Keep your money out of the bootleggers pockets and join the trading circles. Steve - - Heavy Rotation: Radiohead 6/6/95, The Goops - _Lucky_, Soundgarden - _Fopp_ (original S>P vinyl version), Satchel - _The Family_, Prodigy - "Firestarter" EP ------------------------------ From: ASDrum@aol.com Subject: We have a winner..../SOMMS Jeez people. I'm gone for a week and this is what I come back to? Anyway, I see I came back on the tail end of it, HOPEFULLY, which is good. CAN'T WE ALL BE FRIENDS???!!! To those of us who like to see ourselves as being well versed in all things Soundgarden, a little patience and compassion towards newbies, please. We were all there once. If I were new to this list, I'd be TERRIFIED to post after reading some of the latest replies. While these are not (for the most part) personal affronts, to drip with sarcasm is the same difference. Whatever happened to peace, love and understanding??!! <---is that how it goes? never was a big Costello fan :-) My apologies to those who entered my t-shirt give-away - the drawing was supposed to be Thursday, but I had a family emergency out of town - but better late than never. The envelope please........and the proud new owner of a shiny, new, one-of-a-kind SG t-shirt is....DAVID SEARLE. A big round of applause please. But I don't want too many people to go away empty handed, so the following runners-up can choose one item from the following (supplies limited reserve your preference ASAP) - Postcard - Flower early band shot w/Hiro (6) - Postcard - BMF w/ band photo (1) - Postcard - band faces w/yellow SG in the middle (2) - SG Air Freshener for the car - scent=patchouli (whatever that is) (1) The runners-up (runner-ups?!) are: Shroom, SGardnGrl, Stolen Prayers, The Guitarist, Paul (synha001), Varkey, Vasant, MandyC, Brian (br12062), and Raul. If you guys already have all of the above stuff, I apologize. What else.....oh yeah. While in NC last week, I found a copy of Somms. They were asking $40, but I jewed 'em down to $30. So whoever wants it for $30 plus postage, let me know and it's yours. It's brand new, still in the original box. I bought it for whoever on this list may not have it yet - I already have mine. Oh - all this talk of trumpets and horns reminds me - I had bought Spin's Alternative Record Guide (seemed like a good reference tool). I'll type up the SG stuff for the page if it's not already there, but here's something interesting: talking about Screaming Life "...most of the space above was occupied by the powerful, piercing cry of singer Chris Cornell, who sounded like a goddamn trumpet." Ain't that the truth! Reminds me of Loud Love - the awesome wailing at the beginning that melts so smoothly into guitar you can't even tell the difference. sigh Vasant said: "I think we should have SG merchandise like mousepads, screensavers...." Well, do what I did. I bought one of those picture pads for $11, popped a SG and NIN photo in, and voila, instant mousepad. I change the Chris photo in there every so often, depending on my mood. Well, that's it. That's all. I'm done. Ciao babies...... Ang ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: despite all my rage... On Sat, 17 Aug 1996, Lee Christensen wrote: > Just heard that the Presidents are programming RAGE tonight, thought I might > let everyone know, and the small SG content, well Kim did that song on the > album and well we just might get a few SG clips in tonights rage. Hope so the presidents were good enough to play pretty noose on saturday night. and it didn't take them long (song 7 of 41). the odd thing was that the version was a little different to the one I already have on tape. at the very end, there was no woman under the sheets on the bed and there was no rope coiling across the screen, leaving chris staring into the camera for longer. so does that mean that I have been seeing the unedited version all along? ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide - words by kim thayil ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: ar303921@student.uq.edu.au (Lee Christensen) Subject: Re: despite all my rage... Hey ya, >at the very end, there was no woman under the sheets on the bed and there >was no rope coiling across the screen, leaving chris staring into the >camera for longer. so does that mean that I have been seeing the unedited >version all along? It does indeed. You don't think Aust. would be as stupid as MTV and edit something like that out of a film clip! I still wonder what is sooo bad about it that MTV cut it out, I mean she doesn't even look dead! I was hoping they would play some more or a different song, but oh well :) At least they played Outshined on the radio one night :) seeya Lee _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ SONIC E-mail ar303921@student.uq.edu.au Turn it UP and Play it LOUD!! Let the blood rush to your head!! CD I'm listening to this week: "YAY or NAY" by Sarbiem, another Bris band kicking butt ------------------------------ From: Stolen.Prayers@helix.xiii.com Subject: Re:Undernet application OP>I withdraw my support from the application too. OP>Kathie put me down on that list as well... normally i like giving peopel benefit of the doubt and whatnot, but after all the shit thats been flying around this list.. sigh.. oh well. ------------------------------ From: Heather Aston Subject: T-shirt I still haven't gotten my T-shirt. Mayor McCheese, if you are in contact with Nothing man, ask him if he sent mine out. Thanks. ------------------------------ From: dbradsh@unity.ncsu.edu Subject: tub is bubblin *You Are Invited!* To: a party Where: #somms When: Now Dee Dee Bradshaw-Autry http://www.angelfire.com/pages1/deedee/index.html ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: Re:Undernet application please send email to cservice@undernet.org. tell them something like this: >i would like to voice my objection to the registration of the channel #somms by Jason Little, nick "Maliki", email >address jlittle@together.net. the channel was the gathering place for people from the soundgarden mailing >list, and jason volunteered to register it. i withdraw my sponsorship of this registration. this way it counts... if enough people do this, he'll get in trouble At 07:50 PM 8/18/96 CST, Stolen.Prayers@helix.xiii.com wrote: >OP>I withdraw my support from the application too. > >OP>Kathie > >put me down on that list as well... normally i like giving peopel >benefit of the doubt and whatnot, but after all the shit thats been >flying around this list.. sigh.. oh well. > > ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: do we all bleed together? I have to apologise to you all. my post the other day was wrong. wrong wrong wrong. well, maybe just uninformed. but still kind of wrong. so if you are reading this matt, I will repent. bleed together flat out rocks. no two ways about it. the song is fantastic. it represents soundgarden in absolute full flight, and it is surely a wonder to behold. true, it doesn't crunch like kyle petty, wail like cold bitch or hypnotise like my namesake, but like all soundgarden songs before it, it has a charm all its own. but firstly, the lyrics (I will use caps for your sake seth): Bleed Together I know you're half awake And no hate and I know how to do it Hold the door and let it out Don't get it right or wrong No I don't get it I know you're half afraid Half amazed, all insane I know it's all a cage And all the rage And all together gone You and me we're average With simple minds and lungs, eyes and skin You and me we're hopeless We're nowhere hearts so tear it out And open it I'm giving blood tonight I don't care how, don't care why I'm giving blood tonight I'm feeling just like I could give it all I know you're sick and alone Mothers and circles alike We can bleed together Show me and hand me down And hang me up along the golden (?) Show me and throw me out And hold me down, air me out And wind me Repeat verse 2 Chorus (I know you're sick and alone...) Too altogether cool/cold Too altogether numb I know you're sick and alone I know you're sick and alone Chorus (End). this song is all about the groove created by ben and matt, and its dynamic with chris' vocals. ben's bass work is great, easily keeping pace with the guitars through some fairly snappy phrases. there are a number of soundgarden songs that call for ben to stick to a mostly plodding bass-line, but on bleed together he shines, driving the songs the whole way. matt's drumming is pretty much straight down the line (something like everyone's favourite never named), but the song doesn't ask for anything wacky, so that's cool (but by no means is the drumming pedestrian in any shpar or form). what is truly cool is hearing matt almost puncture all his skins during the final chorus, especially after so carefully constructing the buildup in the bridge which leads to the outro. kim's role in bleed together suffers from a sort of jekyll and hyde complex. he adds a couple of one or two note embellishments here and there, but seems content to leave chris almost all riff-responsibility, both verse and chorus. only twice does he appear to remember where he is - during his short five second solo, and (magnificently) during the last chorus, where he snaps out of his reverie to deliver a truly astounding lead break (alongside chris' singing). it is more inspired than some of his stuff from dotu, but maybe because it's a bside release the pressure is off. each time I listen to it, I'm stunned. it makes me think kim has been listening to his johhny winter. as he wrote both the music and lyrics, chris knows exactly where to take this song vocally. unlike karaoke, chris isn't hiding behind any filters or processors here. his voice is topnotch throughout, his phrasing a little like no attention, but slower and more controlled. the way he handles the chorus, particularly the last, is perfect, providing a soaring stability to the bouncy guitars. his guitar work is also well-paced, pushing ben most of the way. his tone is kind of similar to that trashy sort of guns n' roses sound (but *way* better, of course). also of note is the ty cobb voicebox, which makes a couple of appearances. it accompanies chris on the chorus, bleating "we can bleed" in answer to chris' supersonic wail. it also adds some distorted mumblings to the final chorus, but I can't quite make out what it is saying (maybe "come and bleed"?). so after around thirty airings this weekend, bleed together has become one of my favourite soundgarden bsides. the song is perfectly arranged and conceived. and despite the mixing being a little dead, the space between the individual instruments is what makes it so good. all four guys feed off one another, and don't step on each other's toes in the process. all in all, a more than worthwhile addition to the soundgarden catalogue. now this is probably just my own wild imaginings, but if you read through the lyrics with a certain mailing list in mind, you can start to see a connection. in the middle of the night, I actually start believing that bleed together is about us, chris' commentary on our commentary. on how we ruminate and pontificate on everything soundgarden, and maybe how he's laughing at us. and to tell you the truth, they could find much worse subject matter :) ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide - words by kim thayil ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ Subject: Re: record fairs and #somms From: seth > and as to the channel, gang, fuckface is probably reading the digests off > the web site, so by talking about it here we're continuing it. i suggest a > cc list for anyone who is active on irc. a ha! what fuckface didn't take into account is that i'm so lazy i haven't added any of the digests since this little (no pun intended) situation was created! how's *that* for strategy? i'm in the middle of moving again, i might someday be able to hook up my computer again and work on the web page. to those of you who are waiting for replies from me about this or that, i'll get to it asap, i promise. seth ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 2 Issue 218] ****************************************