From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Tuesday, 13 Aug 1996 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 02:51:22 EDT Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Tuesday, 13 Aug 1996 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: somms hot tub t&t Re:Smoke and SG and parents us concert Re: Tighter & Tighter: Is it really that great? Re: Quasi-Soundgarden Related Trivia the niners to go all the way... tuning bmf artwork The 1997 Calendar boys... Third DOTU single RE: SG and parents Re: SG and parents Re: Soundgarden Covers & Unplugged Re: Soundgarden Covers & Unplugged RE: SG and parents. 1994 SJSU Concert Video SG in SI ***1994 SJSU Concert Video*** #somms Re: SG Merchandising desires Tighter & Tighter single SG Merchandise / What not.... Mind Riot solo version RE: SG and parents they saw you today as you were leaving... Re: giveaway #7 hung on my horns... Re: the magazines the housewives read... #somms spa and health club Re: The 1997 Calendar boys... SOMMS Needs a loving home........ I have something you don't have! Karaoke Rarest of the rare ------------------------------------------------------------ From: fopp Subject: somms hot tub somms hot tub?what is it, and where is it at? - -fopp(and rock) ------------------------------ From: "stella" Subject: t&t I was just listening to the local rockradio station here in podunk SLO, ca where they barely ever play anything by Soundgarden and the DJ came on and said, "In the next hour you'll be hearing ...blah blah blah...and a new one from Soundgarden." That got me excited so I kept on listening only expecting it to be either pretty noose or burden, but it was niether! They played Tighter and Tighter! Which totally blew the hell out of me! Maybe they cued the wrong song or maybe they just decided that would be a cool song to play. Oh well I don't care, that song is one of my favorites and it was just my good luck i guess that they even played it all. Yeah, anyways, I thought that I would just share my joy with all of you and I pray that you can experience the same kind of joy that I just experienced just now :) Sleep tight for me, I'm gone... stella - --- srogers@fix.net http://www.fix.net/~srogers http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/1534 "Not only is life a bitch, but its always having puppies" ------------------------------ From: cgoodman@maine.com (Carole Goodman) Subject: Re:Smoke and SG and parents Hmmm. I think I recal seeing interviews w/kim having either Reds or lights. Chris smokes camels. (spin interview). Ben smokes winstons. Matt ???. My parents hate my music they refer to it as "hate music". My father also dances to SG. Very annoying at times. If you're in a car w/him and spoonman comes on the radio. He bounces up and down to the drum solo. Note: in a rented car w/o a tape deck otherwise it would be delbert maclinton. Blah. He will also bash them by saying they have no musical talent. They are aff key so on and so forth. Oh yeah. He always bashes Matt's drumming. But that is because he used to be a drummer in a band and he probably feels resentment because Matt puts him to shame. Just thought I'd share. Also a pround member of the KTMS, Ivy GIF87a=D4=01/ ------------------------------ From: infinite Subject: us concert since there's been mention of cornell having problems with his voice, = will this set back the european tour and possibly keep them from coming = to the us?? has anyone heard anthing about a us tour? infinite C G A Crawling around the carnival ------------------------------ From: Aleko Subject: Re: Tighter & Tighter: Is it really that great? On Fri, 9 Aug 1996, BlackRose wrote: I use to only like it a bit until i heard it really stoned. I realised what a great song it was and has grown on me since. It's not as immediate as BUTOW or Burden but it passes them before the finish line > I just bought DOTU a few days ago and it quickly became my favorite > album, but I'm wondering why everyone makes such a big deal about > Tighter & Tighter. It's a good song but it's not THAT great! > Everyone's saying, "Oh, this is definately going to be the next > single!! It's SOOOOO good!!" But it's not really all it's cracked up > to be I think. Don't get me wrong, I like the song, but I don't get > why everyone talks about it so much. Personally I think Ty Cobb > should be the next single, but they probably couldn't play it on the > radio cause of the lyrics oh well!! Itll probably be Blow Up the > Outside World. LATER > > > "Happiness is not for us to find but for us to search for" ------------------------------ From: The Guitarist-2001 Subject: Re: Quasi-Soundgarden Related Trivia At 05:01 PM 8/6/96 +0000, Eric wrote: >At 10:00 AM 8/6/96 -0200, you wrote: >>>>I have another little trivia queston: Name bands that have songs written >>>>that are the same as the band's name. >>> >>>Ummm Porno For Pyros on Porno For Pyros' cd Porno For Pyros. >>>-Raul >>> >> >>Am I giving away a bit of my past music if I add Living in a Box by Living >>in a Box off >>the album Living in a Box? > >I'm only 16, so I haven't heard of them, but doesn't Bad Company have a song >called Bad Company? I think the albums called Bad Company too, I'm not sure. > >The Lyrical Gangsta, > Eric Ok, in fear of talking about what is probably a forbidden band, I believe that Green Day has a song Green Day on 1039 Smoothed Out Slappy Hours . . . probably the only Green Day album with any decent guitar work . . . but I'll stop now before I start. The Guitarist-2001 ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: the niners to go all the way... On Sun, 11 Aug 1996, Greg Dunbar wrote: > With the next SG single coming into discussion, my bet is definitely > Blow Up The Outside World. I mean, the sticker on DOTU said, > "Featuring Pretty Noose, Burden In My Hand and Blow Up The Outside > World". Those stickers suck but I think that is a bit of a hint yeah, those lame stickers really do suck. but I saw an advertisment in kerrang (which was similar to sticker-talk) for down on the upside, and instead of it saying the usual "contains the songs pn, burden and blow up", it had "contains the songs pn and ty cobb". so if you assume that the sticker knows all, then ty cobb will be released as a single in the uk at some point. maybe they have to release a song like that to be heard above all the brit pop? ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide - words by kim thayil ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: DashosheE Subject: tuning ANyone know why SG uses such weird tuning...a lot of their songs (such as My Wave) are just as easy to play in standard tuning. Just wondering _______________________________ "I am the one, a GOD with a gun I am LEGEND!" -White Zombie _______________________________ dashoshe@neca.com ------------------------------ From: BTimLake@aol.com Subject: bmf artwork I queried in a post a few days ago if anyone knew who had come up with the bmf logo design. Something in a blind dog post made my dumb ass realize I could just look in the liner notes. duh! But as searches often do, the answer to this question produced another. The bmf liner notes credit art direction to "Len Peltier." Does anyone know if this is _the_ Leonard Peltier, infamous american indian prisoner? It would chalk up another mark to the band's sympathies with amerindians. It kinda seems to fit. Also, does anyone know of any other Mark Dancey design products? I would be interested to see what else he's done. I would check some of this stuff on the web, if I had some decent web access. And finally, Steve mentioned a program called Juno a couple months ago. It's a free email program, where (i think) you receive advertisements, but pay no fee. Anyway, if anyone is interested in that, Blockbuster Video (my employer) is giving out free disks for Windows (blech) with any rental. So go rent Motorvision or Louder than Live (though I wouldn't be surprised if you're local store had neither) and get hooked up. If your local store doesn't have the disks and you _really_ want one, i might be able to help out. -- Ben p.s. Go see _trainspotting_ RIGHT NOW! Fantastic new movie about scottish heroin addicts from the director of _shallow grave_ Ben Timberlake You know . . . Northwestern University . . . For kids! Medill School of Journalism btimlake@aol.com -30- http://pubweb.acns.nwu.edu/~bft718 "I didn't create this situation, I'm dealing with it." -Steve Buscemi "Reservoir Dogs" "Only happy when you hurt / Only deadly in a swarm Only healthy in the dirt / Only empty in your arms" -- Chris Cornell, "Rhinosaur" ------------------------------ From: danabt@ix.netcom.com (Dana Born-Thomsen) Subject: The 1997 Calendar boys... I found the 1997 SG calendar already on sale at CDNow, anyone else seen it in stores? Anyway, if you want it, can't find it, now you know where to order it from. ------------------------------ From: Warren Dyson Subject: Third DOTU single I'm pretty sure that the 3rd single from DOTU is gonna be 'Blow up the outside world', reason.... ??? My local record shop has getting copies of DOTU with stickers on them (much like the ones on Superunknown) which read..... Featuring the singles :- Pretty Noose Burden in my hand ~AND~ Blow up the outside world. Q.E.D. Laters, Waz. P.S. Manchester United F.C. for everything in Europe next season !!! ------------------------------ From: neo zeed Subject: RE: SG and parents On Fri, 9 Aug 1996 dbradsh@unity.ncsu.edu wrote: > dad: arent they that seattle grundge band? Soundgarden are not Grunge. .bug ------------------------------ From: neo zeed Subject: Re: SG and parents On Sat, 10 Aug 1996, Heather Aston wrote: > My Mom seems to associate SG with "d" words. When I played them for her > in the car, she found them "disturbing", then "distressing." Then she told > me that maybe I wouldn't be depressed if I listened to some different kind > of music. Somehow, I doubt it. > Parents always say things like that. My Mum beleives that most of the music I listen to has corrupted my mind and turned me into some kind of monster. .bug ------------------------------ From: neo zeed Subject: Re: Soundgarden Covers & Unplugged On Sun, 11 Aug 1996, Greg Dunbar wrote: > 9. My Wave (jazzy version! - a bit like Swing On This by AIC) > I reckon it would soon unreal. With trumpets and stuff! Yuk!! Trumpets and other such instruments spoil Rick music, IMHO. The sound of a guitar married to the flatulent sound of a horned instrument never bodes well... > 10. Power Trip Ooh, one of my favourite SG tracks, from my favourite SG album as well!! .bug ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Soundgarden Covers & Unplugged From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) >Yuk!! Trumpets and other such instruments spoil Rock music, IMHO. The >sound of a guitar married to the flatulent sound of a horned instrument >never bodes well... Interesting! I can't agree or disagree with you on this. A part of me wants to hear a full blown version of a SG song done with full instrumental backing. There is something grand about hearing a so called "rock" music piece orchestrated into a classical and powerful selection. Jon Lord of Deep Purple use to do this all the time. But then I love nothing better than the hard driving sound of guitars and drums. To say one or the other is good or bad just isn't ease. I would love to hear "Into the Void (Sealth)" done with a full orchestra.. Jamie (The Alternative and Classical Village Idiot) ------------------------------ From: pepin@earthlink.net (Mark Pepin) Subject: RE: SG and parents. Wow that must suck for you guys my parents like SG and my aunt and grandmother thinks that Chris wants them....................they need help. Alright just thought I should share that! Andrea ------------------------------ From: Malvol7@aol.com Subject: 1994 SJSU Concert Video I have an old concert video that I'm giving away if anyone is interested. It's called "Soundgarden -A Night to Remember-Live in Concert at the San Jose State University 1994." I don't have the time to list everything on it...but it starts off with JCP...running time is116 minutes...Chris talks to the audience quite often (and if I remember correctly he tosses out his guitar at the end of the concert)...the visuals aren't *great* but it's a nice video to add to your collection if your an avid fan. E-mail me at Malvol7@aol.com ------------------------------ From: Icarus (Icarus) Subject: SG in SI Just reading the commemorative issue of Sports Illustrated on the Olympics. In a contrasting Brooke Beenet and Janet Evans. Everything's a little more raffish these days, so it figures that our new swim queen, Brooke Bennett the distance darling, would be more MTV tahn easy listening. Not that Janet Evans, her predecessor, was ever Muzak in the pool. ... [Her exuberance] was a wholesome sound and ... decidedly more Sousa than Soundgarden." - -yu ________________________ aluta continua Fight the fight In this war In this revolution You got to know what you're fighting for ------------------------------ From: Malvol7@aol.com Subject: ***1994 SJSU Concert Video*** I couldn't believe the responses I got to this...and so quickly too. I got over 100 replies just a few hours after I posted about the 1994 SG video. Sorry...but I gave it to the first person on the list. I have a few other things that are duplicates...I'll try to list them when I get a chance. Mal7 ------------------------------ From: "Joseph E \"Gene\" Candelaria" Subject: #somms Hey Sommsters & Sommsettes, come on into the hot tub...there's fresh chlorine.. ;> - -- ; > Joseph E. "Gene" Candelaria ------------------------------ From: vman@ctdnet.acns.nwu.edu (Vasant Ramamurthy) Subject: Re: SG Merchandising desires >3a) Soundgarden trading cards... this may be another nifty way to have >an official discography... a card for every release!!! a card for >every song!!! a card for every band member!!! > >3b) while on the topic of trading cards... "The Soundgarden >collectible Card Game". Ever hear of "Magic"? ex. "Chris Cornell >uses his 'Pretty Noose card' on the 'Cold Bitch character card', 'Cold >Bitch' counters with an 'Applebite card' (loosely and tightly, >everything fits, even a Pretty Noose!!)" Yes, I know, its a stupid >idea... Trading cards don't sound like a bad idea. I know that Pearl Jam is including trading cards with their new album coming out the 27th of this month. There will be different cards in every album. Obligatory SG content: I think we should have SG computer merchandise, like mousepads, screensavers, and the like. Vasant ****************************************************************************** THE REFUGE OF THE DAMNED - Check out lots o' music stuff here!! http://ctdnet.acns.nwu.edu/~vman/me.html vman@ctdnet.acns.nwu.edu "When new damage comes, it's a new word for plague, a new world order, a new word for hate" - New Damage - Soundgarden ------------------------------ From: endless_nameless@prodigy.com (GRRL NIKI FREER) Subject: Tighter & Tighter single i don't know about this. i don't see how T&T would be released as a single, it doesn't sound like a radio song to me. i could hear something like, oh, maybe rhinosaur or even dusty and yeah BUTOW on the radio, but T&T sounds too.... different, i guess for that radio. i don't think it would go over very well. I personally love the song to death and the lyrics mean a hall of a lot to me, so a release would be kinda depressing to me, but i really don't think it would go over with the same people that listen to bush and no doubt. it's too complex and deep for them. $.02 from me. endless nameless "candles burning yesterday, somebody's best friend died..." -- mind riot ____ the lives we make never seem to ever get us anywhere but dead... - --chris cornell "the day i tried to live" ------------------------------ From: ANGELA.DRUM@firstunion.com Subject: SG Merchandise / What not.... TO: Softswitch.OAS FROM: ANGELA.DRUM@TAOFUN1 SUBJECT: SG Merchandise / What not.... While I don't have specific ideas for T-shirts at the moment, I do have some thoughts. I love the SG caricature idea. My favorite PJ shirt is the white World Tour w/caricature. A little SG humor would be a nice contrast, don't you think? Also, actual band photo t-shirts are kind of cheesy, IMHO. I also have to agree with Rainman in that black and white shirts (not white so much) are old. Especially black - it's SO heavy metal. I love my grey SG Lolla T. Song lyrics are good - ESPECIALLY SG lyrics. Just think of the awesome images that come to mind when reading their lyrics. I also prefer tees with Soundgarden spelled out clearly on the back. Oh sure, it's fun to try and have people wonder and guess what you're wearing, but around these parts, people don't have a clue. (The front plate on my car is a large "NIN". I pull into a parking lot and a young lady parking near me says "What's NIN? Is that a sorority?"). As for other SG merchandise ideas, I'm with SkyVista on the car stuff. SG plates or plate frames would be cool, especially for those of us who don't like to put stickers on the car. As for the SG air fresheners, they make those already. I have a couple that I bought a couple of years ago. If I see anymore, I'll scoop them up for anyone that wants them (although I haven't seen any for a while). I was at a record show Saturday, and my photo-man is now making those cheesy plastic photo key rings. So I picked out a great Lolla 92 Chris shot for one side, and an awesome Lolla 96 Chris shot for the other side, and hung it in the car from the visor. Beautiful. Makes those long commutes just a little bit easier. OH - and here's some weird stuff that already exists: When I get home from work, I toss the car keys on the SG BMF KEYRING, take off my suit and slip into my SG BOXERS, pour some wine into my SG BEER MUG, and check the date on my 1996 SG CALENDAR. And at Christmas, don't we all hang our SG FAN CLUB ORNAMENTS on our trees?] I'm sure there are lots of weird things already out there. Anyone??]] I love Rainman's survey idea. I think it would be so cool to know all the different kinds of people that make up this list. Anyway, enough rambling. Ciao babies....... Ang ------------------------------ From: endless_nameless@prodigy.com (GRRL NIKI FREER) Subject: Mind Riot solo version has anyone else heard the mind riot solo version chris does? i have a bootleg video from august 4 1994, i'm not sure where, but they keep complaining about having decibil limiting laws so they can't be any louder. it's just chris and the guiter (duh...) and it's really really pretty. endless nameless "the wreck is going down, get out before you drown..." --new damage ____ the lives we make never seem to ever get us anywhere but dead... - --chris cornell "the day i tried to live" ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: RE: SG and parents On Mon, 12 Aug 1996, neo zeed wrote: > On Fri, 9 Aug 1996 dbradsh@unity.ncsu.edu wrote: > > > dad: arent they that seattle grundge band? > > Soundgarden are not Grunge. in case you didn't notice, this was dee dee's *FATHER* speaking. if you can figure out a way to explain soundgarden quickly to someone who doesn't understand and really doesn't care that doesn't use that word, then please enlighten us. jeez louise. lighten up. - --caryn ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: they saw you today as you were leaving... On Mon, 12 Aug 1996, neo zeed wrote: > Yuk!! Trumpets and other such instruments spoil Rick music, IMHO. The > sound of a guitar married to the flatulent sound of a horned instrument > never bodes well... did you think that the trumpet and saxophones on badmotorfinger spoiled the album? ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide - words by kim thayil ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ Subject: Re: giveaway #7 From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) Thanks Eric, got the "Rusty Cage" giveaway today. Love it!!! You're one good guy..... :-) Jamie (Village Idiot - Breaking her rusty cage) ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: hung on my horns... On Thu, 8 Aug 1996, caryn rose wrote: > time for all of us to go vote for the Unofficial Soundgarden Home Page as > the Cool Site of the Year! > http://cool.infi.net/csoty.html call me blind, but I don't think you can vote for sgi.net here. voting seems to be limited to a bunch of nominees, which have already been determined :( ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide - words by kim thayil ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: ansel@morgan.com Subject: Re: the magazines the housewives read... Sorry about the incomplete review of Karaoke the other day. The song begins with a 'fake' intro -- imagine your younger brother's band pretending they're playing a sold out gig at The Garden. The hype. The hoopla. The false grandeur. The cymbal crashing, guitar wielding mess stops after 30 seconds and the smoother, poppier, pedestrian body of the tune kicks in. PROBLEM...They needed to either take it in a Spinal Tap direction or go all out quality pop like they did with 'Big Dumb Sex'. The theme of the lyrics is similar to Dire Straits' 'Money for Nothing', but we never feel SG's sarcasm or thorough disgust. To the 'outside world' (non- SOMMSers), 'Karaoke' presents SG as a REALLY BAD pop band with a great vocalist. (Still, 12 cheesy 'oh, yeahs' in a single tune is too many, no matter who's singing.) After 5 minutes, 'Karaoke' builds back to the 'false into' grandeur and takes a boring 60 seconds to end. I was disappointed with this terminally mediocre tune, but was delighted that the guys were smart enough producers to realize it could have added nothing to DOTU. (The sound is obviously from the DOTU period with a faint echo used throughout most of the vocals.) -Vikki :( ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Author: blind dog at nylanr01 Date: 8/12/96 12:34 PM what other sg song does it most sound like vikki? ------------------------------ From: ThNrthFace@aol.com Subject: #somms spa and health club Hey, The List Thug and certified masseur is at the spa and will be sitting poolside for a while. At least until PJ tickets are to go on sale. :) Come in for a swim or a facial or a steam bath. Whatever is your pleasure. The hot tub is empty too, it's too damn hot to go in there today. List Thug and pround KTMS member, Aaron ------------------------------ Subject: Re: The 1997 Calendar boys... From: tonerkin@usa.pipeline.com (Tonerkin) On Aug 12, 1996 01:22:38, 'danabt@ix.netcom.com (Dana Born-Thomsen)' wrote: >I found the 1997 SG calendar already on sale at CDNow, anyone else seen >it in stores? Hey girl, why don't I just send you a blank check for all the cool soundgarden stuff you are finding and I am not!!!! YOU know I need that new calander as I gaze up at Chris(this month's calander boy!) that you so graciously send me for christmas last year!! You are a lady and a scholar my dear!! toni ------------------------------ From: BTimLake@aol.com Subject: SOMMS I feel like Arthur when he finally found the holy grail. Granted, Arthur probably didn't have the blessed grail goddess he met on the internet send him the vessel, but it's the end of an epic adventure for me. I now possess SOMMS. One I can cradle in my arms and call my own. All thanks to the blessed SOMMS goddess/finder herself, dena. So, add me to the little list of owners and add on 2 for people I know who have it. A big thanks to dena, the academy, and all the little people who made this possible! -- Ben Ben Timberlake You know . . . Northwestern University . . . For kids! Medill School of Journalism btimlake@aol.com -30- http://pubweb.acns.nwu.edu/~bft718 "I didn't create this situation, I'm dealing with it." -Steve Buscemi "Reservoir Dogs" "Only happy when you hurt / Only deadly in a swarm Only healthy in the dirt / Only empty in your arms" -- Chris Cornell, "Rhinosaur" ------------------------------ From: ASDrum@aol.com Subject: Needs a loving home........ Am I allowed to have my own giveaway? Eric? Anyway, all this talk about t-shirts reminded me of a SG t-shirt I bought at a hole-in-the-wall record store (the best kind!) in Miami about two years ago. It's light light tan, with a square collage type thing on the front that shows the covers of Screaming Life /Fopp, Ultramega OK, LTL, and BMF, plus some cd singles like JCP, Outshined, Rusty Cage, and Loudest Love. There's nothing on the back (which is the main reason I never wore it). It's a Hanes Heavyweight pre-shrunk and it's brand spanking new. I've never seen it anywhere else. I've had it tucked away, but I think it's time I try to find it a loving home, with someone who will wear it and take good care of it. If anyone out there would like to have it, e-mail me directly and I'll draw a name this Thursday night. Winner need not be present to win. Got my Launch this weekend. Pretty good, pretty good. I kind of like having all that power over Soundgarden at my fingertips. "Chris, you may speak now". I had bought the last Launch, with Bush on the cover, because it said it had some kind of Soundgarden interactive doo-hickey on it that turned out to be total bullshit. But I love the whole concept - definitely worth $10. And this month's Launch has a double bonus - Kevin Spacey! Too cool. ANYWAY, I'm listening to Karaoke, and thinking "now I know why it wasn't on the album". Before you flame........I just think it's one of those songs that has to grow on you. It's a GREAT song compared to the sludge that's released these days. And Matt gives it the JCP work-out towards the end. Definite potential - I just have to give it a few more listens. Incidentally, for those of you who haven't purchased Launch yet, they're having some kind of contest - all you have to do is fill out their survey and either mail, fax, or e-mail it by Sept 30, 1996 - one entry per person, no purchase necessary. The grand prize is.....a drum roll please......a trip for two to Seattle for the premiere of "Hype!" (hey, you never know who will be there), plus a special VIP tour of the Seattle mucic scene. This would be cool to win, just to finally get to go Seattle - for free. Anyway, if anyone needs further details, let me know. ~ You know you're obsessed with Soundgarden when the boss' s 10 year old daughter comes to work for the day, comes to see you in your cube, and it's only the 2nd time you've ever seen this child in your life, and she says to you "I thought of you the other day when they played Burden in My Hand on MTV - - I know how much you love Soundgarden". sigh "We're Frowngarden. We frown upon everything." - Chris Cornell Ciao babies...... Ang ------------------------------ From: "Joseph A. Burnett" Subject: I have something you don't have! Well, maybe somebody on somms does, but if you don't, I'd be willing to share.......one of my buddies older brothers knows some guy that works for A&M records...well anyways, for a joint and five bucks, he gave me a promotional CD called "Into the Upside"......A Soundgarden interview with Eleven's Alain and Natasha....the Cd has the band talking about every song on DOTU, what the meaning of each song was, the inspiration for each song, etc......then the end is them commenting on Lollapalooza and the Ramones... Does anyone else have this? If not, email me privately for a trade....I'll also give excerpts if anyone has questions about songs......L8RZ Big Joe P.S. Hey Tonerkins (Tony)....any good shows coming to chicago soon? email me privately........ - --------O But it all makes such Sense to me i need room to breathe I work for the goals that i set Wasted time it weighs on my mind You can bet I can't wait one minute more - -----CIV ------------------------------ Subject: Karaoke From: seth I've been reading the opinions of "Karaoke" and I think I agree with parts of each one. It's an incredibly catchy song, much like many of the songs on DOTU, though it's different in that it's made up of a bunch of sections that sound strikingly dissimilar (contrast: "Burden In My Hand" is catchy but sounds pretty much continuous). I don't think it's a disappointment, which is a relief after my inability to enjoy DOTU -- the one part of the song that sounds anything like DOTU sounds like my favorite song from that album. It starts with a frenzy and dies into one note. This one note leads into the "quiet" section, which sounds very much like "Applebite" -- a similarity which definitely places it in the DOTU era. Chris' voice is not natural here, it's going through some sort of processor. The verse ends with Chris screaming on top of himself and leads into what surely must be the joke, with a repeated "Oh yeah." The choruses (see Vikki's lyrics) are some of the most catchy music Soundgarden has ever written, which makes sense if this is a commentary on the armies of bands that do nothing except release hook-laden pop that all sounds the same. The last time that the two choruses appear, the parts get more and more active until the final variation on the chorus, which disappears into a frenzy that mirrors the opening. One good thing about this track is that Matt is really going all-out, whereas the drum parts sound pretty simple and -- dare I say it? -- uninteresting on most of DOTU. As was pointed out in a previous review, he gives the song the JCP workout towards the end. I also like Chris' harmonies with himself: one low part and one screaming high part with effects. No, it doesn't even come close to stacking up against anything from Badmotorfinger, but it has its good moments, and people in the know (like us) will definitely get the joke when they hear the "Oh yeah" sections. seth ------------------------------ Subject: Rarest of the rare From: seth I know we have some lists of people on the mailing list who own certain Soundgarden rarities. Geoff's been compiling the list of people that own SOMMS, and Ray was (are you still, Ray?) compiling the list of people that own the "Pretty Noose" 7" on red vinyl so we can see what percentage of the total issue we have. These items were limited to 100,000 copies and 5,000 copies, respectively. [If you guys could post those lists to the list again, that would be great. If anyone doesn't see their name on either the SOMMS or PN ownership lists when they're posted, email the right person and get yourself added.]. Anyway, I would like to start a new list for what I believe is the rarest of the Soundgarden rarities: the "Pretty Noose" Limited Edition Club Promo CD, which was limited to 300 (yes, three hundred) copies. The disc has the black band silhouettes on the white background, and it comes in clear plastic sleeve, sealed with a large red sticker that includes the number out of 300 (I've got 168). If anyone else has this, please email me. There are pictures of the disc on the website. Also, if I'm an idiot and there are rarer Soundgarden items to be had, please let me know. Things that don't count: - The Pyrrhic Victory cassette (250 copies), because it's a compilation. That's right, it's only a compilation, you don't want it. It's probably just taking up space on your shelf. Reduce clutter -- send it to me. I'll make the sacrifice. - The CDC boys 7" (100 copies?), because it's not Soundgarden. Again, it's probably just taking up space in your home. I'm feeling generous and would be more than willing to help you tidy up by taking the thing off your hands. seth ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 2 Issue 213] ****************************************