From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Saturday, 10 Aug 1996 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Sat, 10 Aug 1996 03:36:46 EDT Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Saturday, 10 Aug 1996 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: Re: SG merchandise FW: DOTU singles number nine song that I would like SG to cover. Re: SG merchandise basketball diaries Re: thoughts on "burden"... Re: SG merchandise Gimme T-shirts and other stuff RE: SG and parents Karaoke Comments/Lyrics somms Re: SG merchandise Re:SG Response WAKE UP!! SG Merchandising desires SG merchandise #somms is on Re: SG Merchandising desires Burden Single Re: Gimme T-shirts and other stuff Re: The "Burden" of parents, I mean, children... Re: THE BeST SG ALBuM Re: SG Merchandising desires dreams Re: Kim Thayil for President!!! Re: SG merchandise Re: SG at the Ramones' farewell A drunkin' Chris on Stage Tighter & Tighter: Is it really that great? Re: SG Merchandising desires ideas for merchandise Re[2]: SG Merchandising desires happy happy Joy Joy Seattle get together? Parents and SG.... career shiftin'... gonna go #sommsing GET YER SG STUFF TODAY!!! Re: SG Merchandising desires (long) Re: SG Merchandising desires RE: SG and parents DotU Billboard chart positions M2 Re: Seattle get together? Chris and surgery? Re: SG Merchandising desires SG ideas My shirt idea . .. RE: M2 merchandise articles...& d' allure thingie sg merchandise Re: SG Merchandising desires (long) SG covers disgusted... ------------------------------------------------------------ From: "stella" Subject: Re: SG merchandise > What else would be interesting to buy? Stuff besides t-shirts and > hats? Any thoughts on any type of merchandise and/or designs are I want some socks with the S logo on it. A keychain with the S logo would be cool too but I'd lose it so what's the point. Um..what else... How about some Pretty Noose shoe laces.Or a rhinosaur stuffed animal. Or rockem-sockem robots with the NTMF machine instead. How bout a watch with a picture of Kim on it with the big hand throwing a fist at you. Or one with Ben Shepard with the big hand giving you the finger. Or one of those pens, that when you turn it upside down, Chris' shirt disappears. Or his pants even. Um...you probably didn't need to know that. God, I'm a marketing genius. Yeah right. Anyways... - --- srogers@fix.net http://www.fix.net/~srogers http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/1534 "Not only is life a bitch, but its always having puppies" ------------------------------ From: Eliza J Polly Subject: FW: DOTU singles >umm id guess the next single would be BUTOW, or tighter and tighter maybe ?? BUTOW is all over the airwaves here already ------------------------------ From: Eric Gardner Subject: number nine Freebie (and the Bean?) time again. This time it is back to vinyl with a 7" of FobD, b-side is My Wave. Regular old black vinyl, btw. On the My Wave side Brendan O'Brien's name has a typo and is listed as "Brendadn". Entries taken until Tuesday, 13 Aug. Email to enter, name drawn at random, only the winner need provide an address, everybody here tonight must boogie, you are no exception to the rule. Eric ------------------------------ From: GeekGirl@aol.com Subject: song that I would like SG to cover. Hey all.... Here's my addtion to the ' songs that SG should( we would like to see) cover tunes. I know that it is a novelty song and all.. But I would totally get a kick out of SG doing " They are coming to take me away"... for the life of me I can't think of the 'real title'... I have the single.. but its packed away somewhere!!! so forgive me!!! " They are coming to take me away.. haha hehe.. to the funny farm where life is beautiful all the time..." Listen to the Frogs!!! Dena :)~ ------------------------------ From: Greg Bensimon Subject: Re: SG merchandise On Thu, 8 Aug 1996, seth wrote: > > What else would be interesting to buy? Stuff besides t-shirts and > > hats? Any thoughts on any type of merchandise and/or designs are Then Stella wrote: > Or rockem-sockem robots with the NTMF machine instead. How about rockem-sockem robots in the form of Kim and Heather Mifflin? Or how about one of those practical joke flowers that squirts water, except that instead of a flower, it's Ben's face spitting at you and calling you a "Metallica loving white-trash mother fucker." How about this... Before I go back to school in the fall, I'm getting a tatoo of the BMF logo on my arm. Maybe we could market the official SG tatoo kit. "Do it yourself in only 15 minutes!" Actually, the best would be SG action figures. But they'd have to be like the old GI Joe action figures. Between 10 and 12" tall, bendable elbows and knees. You know, ACTION figures. Greg "Without ice cream life and fame are meaningless." "I thought it was beer." "Oh yeah, that too..." ------------------------------ From: truth addict Subject: basketball diaries does anyone know the lyrics to the song that soundgarden had on the basketball diaries soundtrack? ======================================================================== JUMP OUT OF THE STARTING BLOCKS AND BURN A TRAIL PAST THOSE INFERIOR NEVER MIND THE TOES YOU TRAMPLE UNRELENTING IN THE PURSUIT OF DOMINANCE ======================================================================= ------------------------------ From: rea47935@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu (hasswipee) Subject: Re: thoughts on "burden"... >am i the only one who has been surprised at the relatively tame >radio/mtv play of "burden in my hand"??? burden is ALL over the radio here you cant listen for 2 hours without listening to it (not that id listen to the radio stations here for 2 hours in a row "up next we got some new bush, new rock from sponge, and aerosmith" yuck!). But whenever I do listen to the radio in the car i always hear it. Burden is also number 16 on emptyv top 20 and on heavy rotation according to their website. >could butow be dotu's "black hole sun???". me and someone else, i forget who it was where talking about this in #somms the other day. I personally do think that BUTOW will be huge. someone in the # even suggested that it would be 'the stairway to heaven of the 90's' I dont think it will be that big, but IMO it has a chance to be as big as BHS was. In my opinion its the catchiest song on the whole cd, and with the phrase 'burrow down in and blow up the outside world' how many depressed alternateens are not gonna like it? Dont get me wrong I love the song a lot..but it will be overplayed and overplayed heavily once it is released. - -Raul ------------------------------ From: HOLMEST@198.81.231.2.dstm.com Subject: Re: SG merchandise My car has a big scratch on the back bumper. A cool SG bumber sticker would cover it up nicely. Later, Mr. Bunchypants (formally Taylor) p.s. Ahhh...Bunchypants...I love it!! ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: SG merchandise Author: saperl@MIT.EDU at Internet Date: 8/9/96 2:01 AM With the talk about the Kickstand t-shirt and having recently seen the Soundgarden shirts that were available at Lolla, I was thinking about potential Soundgarden merchandise for the upcoming tour/tours. If I remember correctly, the only SG-related stuff for sale at Lolla was the shirts, one with the DOTU album cover on it, and one that said "Tour '96-'97" or something like that on it. What would be cool to have for sale at the upcoming shows? Personally, I'd like to see some shirts with the old SST-era "S" logo on them -- like the one Matt wore during the Pink Pop festival -- since it was brought back this year with the PN video. I'd love to have a hat with that logo on it. What else would be interesting to buy? Stuff besides t-shirts and hats? Any thoughts on any type of merchandise and/or designs are welcome... seth ------------------------------ From: SkyVista96@aol.com Subject: Gimme T-shirts and other stuff Hey people! I've been reading some stuff on this list about SG T-shirts. If you know where I can get some, e-mail me. I go back to school next week and I want some shirts that will piss off my teachers. They don't like it when students wear anything besides polo shirts and khakis or roper-type clothes. I'd really like a "Free Kim Thayil" shirt, so if you have one for sale or know where to get one, just don't sit there!!! Tell me about it!!! And another thing, here in Dallas/Fort Worth we have only two lousy radio stations that occasionally play SG. I've talked to some of the people at the radio station and they haven't even heard of BUTOW!!! So to help me out, anytime a new SG song comes on a station in your area, tell me about it so I can call them up and gripe about why we aren't hearing it. It really makes me pissed when the stations don't appreciate SG so I'm not going to let that happen anymore!! Amber ------------------------------ From: dbradsh@unity.ncsu.edu Subject: RE: SG and parents i was babbling incessantly about SG at the dinner table one evening at my parents house... mom asks what they sound like... i reply, babble babble gush, gush they re amazing kinda stuff...but i doubt ya'll would like... dad replies, how do you know what we'd like...arent you stereotyping us...(geez flamed by my dad, no wonder i am so messed up :)..) have you even heard OF them dad? dad: arent they that seattle grundge band? well, hmmmmmm....its a start... Dee Dee Bradshaw-Autry http://www.angelfire.com/pages1/deedee/index.html ------------------------------ From: ansel@morgan.com Subject: Karaoke Comments/Lyrics It's not catchy enough to be 'a hit'; it's not grand enough to be a 'rock anthem by the numbers'; and it isn't sarcastic enough to make its point. -Vikki :( Karaoke (5:57) -------------- (You) Gonna shake your head Gonna shake and spin Gonna pick it up abed with something new (Note: abed is an adverb meaning in bed - I looked it up to make sure. -V) First I heard it in my car Then I saw it on the set It's nothin I can't do IT'S NOTHIN I CAN'T LICK (Note: caps mean shouting -V) Oh, yeah (4x) Chorus 1 (Now) You can hear it in the air You can feel it in your bones You can sing it in your head YOU CAN WEAR IT ON YOUR CLOTHES Oh, yeah (4x) Chorus 2 You can steal it if you dare Just might put you where your goin (where your goin) I'm just a regular man Now I'm a regular mess Doesn't matter how you dress DOESN'T MATTER HOW YOU FIT Oh, yeah (4x) Chorus 1 Chorus 2 I'm gonna show you someday (4x) Chorus 1 Chorus 2 You can hear it in the air You can feel it in your bones You can have it for your own May not miss you when your gone ------------------------------ From: dbradsh@unity.ncsu.edu Subject: somms my CD guru has found somms for me....he is awesome...I HAVE SOMMS!!!!!! finally...or i will when it gets here...groovy...life is good... Dee Dee Bradshaw-Autry http://www.angelfire.com/pages1/deedee/index.html ------------------------------ From: ShRooMGrLz@aol.com Subject: Re: SG merchandise >And another thing, here in Dallas/Fort Worth we have only two lousy radio >stations that occasionally play SG. Yeah, I know... this has nothing to do with SG merchandise... but I had to respond. We have THREE lousy radio stations in DFW that play SG. 94.5, 97.1, and 102.1. I've heard 102.1 play Overfloater and BUTOW before. And they play PN and Burden every hour. I should be shot for listening to the radio at work. >What would be cool to have for sale at the upcoming shows? Personally, >I'd like to see some shirts with the old SST-era "S" logo on them -- Ummm... I saw a shirt at the mall a few weeks ago that had the "S" logo on the front where the shirt pocket would have been. On the back it was a picture of the band. It was pretty rad! >What else would be interesting to buy? Stuff besides t-shirts and >hats? Any thoughts on any type of merchandise and/or designs are >welcome... Personally, I think a Chris Cornell blow-up doll would be a great seller. I can think of QUITE a few people who would be interested in buying one (or MORE). Hmmm... what about those Chris Cornell nude shower curtains? Umm... and how about Chris Cornell satin bed sheets? Mmmm... I'm liking these ideas. Heheheh... Listen to the frogs!!! Shroom Red Haired Devil-Hootchie, Proud member of the Kim Thayil Mercenary Squad, and Seattle-bound-obsessed-SOMMS-psycho (See you in October, Chris and Matt!!!) "Now that Brian has gotten Susan out of the way, Shroom... I'm yours!! Let's go find Dave Navarro and get started on our 'house of sin'!!" ~ Chris Cornell (Words not necessarily said in that order...) <~~~ my disclaimer ------------------------------ From: oponfam@cnsnet.com Subject: Re:SG Response Karen wrote: > > So if Chris decides to drink himself into oblivion sometimes (I certainly do > > not agree with whoever said he is constantly drunk!) that is his choice and > > should really not affect any of his fans. .bug replied: > No-one's "affected" by his choices (as you so put it), but we should all > feel free to have our opinions and speak our minds about it if we want > to. I agree with .bug, but personally I would be devastated if anything happened to Chris or for that matter any of the members of SG, whether it was from drinking or something else. That's why we all care, because we ARE affected by him and his actions. I'll never forget when John Bonham died (as Vasant mentioned). It felt like the end of the world (and I knew it was the end of Led Zep). And that was only the first of many "losses" I have felt over the years when people I admire fuck themselves up. And then, even before my time, there was Janis Joplin, Jimi Hendrix, Jim Morrison, etc. etc. Everyone has the right to do what they want with their life, but Karen, are you saying that if Chris drank himself to death, or choked to death on his own puke, or died in a drunken car crash, that you wouldn't be affected? Kathie ------------------------------ From: "Joseph E \"Gene\" Candelaria" Subject: WAKE UP!! #somms hottub is in service i'm on Monticello.AR.US.Undernet.org come on in - -- ; > Joseph E. "Gene" Candelaria http://www.inland.net/~sunishun My place in time is a big nada history. But, my place in time with you is shown symbolically. -----Mike Watt ------------------------------ From: mansruin@sirius.com (Man's Ruin Inc.) Subject: SG Merchandising desires Hello Sommsters, Well,I have been officially asked to come up with some designs for the new Soundgarden merch line...T-shirts,hats,stuff in general.While I have a few ideas of my own,it seems to me that the members of this list do a pretty damn good job of representing a wide cross-section of Sg fans and are the perfect 'Demographic' for my research into what y'all want to wear in relation to Sg stuff...so,I would like to poll you as to your ideas for designs...graphic drawings,weird photographic stuff...what says Soundgarden to you?Post your replies on the list or directly to me at mansruin@sirius.com.If anyones suggestions end up getting used I will make sure they are suitably recompensed. There's about a 10 day 'window of opportunity" here.. Frank Kozik ------------------------------ Subject: SG merchandise From: seth You'd think Kozik and I were in cahoots with this merchandise thing, but we're not. Really. seth ------------------------------ From: "Joseph E \"Gene\" Candelaria" Subject: #somms is on Kiptiluini is stolking the fires. Come one in...the party continues.... - -- ; > Joseph E. "Gene" Candelaria http://www.inland.net/~sunishun My place in time is a big nada history. But, my place in time with you is shown symbolically. -----Mike Watt ------------------------------ From: ansel@morgan.com Subject: Re: SG Merchandising desires PEZ DISPENSERS!!! A Frank Kozik original cartoon rendering of each band member! -Vikki :) ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: SG Merchandising desires Author: mansruin@sirius.com (Man's Ruin Inc.) at nylanr01 Date: 8/9/96 9:51 AM Hello Sommsters, Well,I have been officially asked to come up with some designs for the new Soundgarden merch line...T-shirts,hats,stuff in general.While I have a few ideas of my own,it seems to me that the members of this list do a pretty damn good job of representing a wide cross-section of Sg fans and are the perfect 'Demographic' for my research into what y'all want to wear in relation to Sg stuff...so,I would like to poll you as to your ideas for designs...graphic drawings,weird photographic stuff...what says Soundgarden to you?Post your replies on the list or directly to me at mansruin@sirius.com.If anyones suggestions end up getting used I will make sure they are suitably recompensed. There's about a 10 day 'window of opportunity" here.. Frank Kozik ------------------------------ From: "Greg Dunbar" Subject: Burden Single Hey gang. I was at the local record store today trying to see if I could back-order Soundgarden singles and they had Burden In My Hand listed. The single was listed as being 3 tracks and those tracks being: 1. Burden In My Hand 2. Birth Ritual (Demo Version) 3. Bleed Together So there ya go. Whether or not this is what it will be remains to be seen but what I saw is what I saw. - ------------------------------------------------------------- Loosely or tightly Everything Fits Even The Wrist On Your Arm Applebite - Soundgarden - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ GD - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ From: HOLMEST@198.81.231.2.dstm.com Subject: Re: Gimme T-shirts and other stuff Amber wrote: So to help me out, anytime a new SG song comes on a station in your area, tell me about it so I can call them up and gripe about why we aren't hearing it. It really makes me pissed when the stations don't appreciate SG so I'm not going to let that happen anymore!! Uh Oh... We've got another fiesty lady who is taking action in the community. Caryn, is Amber related? ;-) Later, Mr. Bunchypants ------------------------------ From: danabt@ix.netcom.com (Dana Born-Thomsen) Subject: Re: The "Burden" of parents, I mean, children... Toni said: "Gee, that's funny, my five year old daughter tells me to turn Soundgarden down all the time!" Oh T! You've got to play it consistently until they give up, it works! This morning on the way to the daycare we were listening to the Deep Six compilation and all of a sudden Nikki, my six year old, starts smiling, pounding her fist in the air and yelling "wrapped like a cat, with my head in a sack, and I feel like I'm tied to a railroad track!" I couldn't stop laughing, maybe we'll get rid of those Janet Jackson tapes yet! Overfloater/champagne/foreshocks if you still can't find "Launch" just e-mail me, I know Vikki has already generously offered to send copies to those who can't find it, I also know where there alot them. Same price, $9.98. To the person who met Kim in a San Jose club, you lucky #$%*&%!! On their tour bus, and you don't want to post more about it?? Gee, thanks! Don't worry about Chris, he's shy, and see you guys??!! He wasn't out getting shitfaced! Enough about his drinking! Belated "Happy Birthday" Ray (Unknown Man)!! Pretend it was Kim buying YOU a drink!! ------------------------------ From: The Guitarist-2001 Subject: Re: THE BeST SG ALBuM At 07:07 AM 8/6/96 +0000, Gregg wrote: > >>>> The songs aren't hard to figure out chordwise. >> >>In my opinion, that isn't good. SG should be complex enough where few can >>play their chords. > >Wait, just a sec, bro. Since when does super complex = good ? Since never. >Though complex can sometimes interesting, a lot of times it adds up to a lot >of weird sounds together. Ahem, noise, if you will. Think about how ear >pleasing >FoBD's main riff is...it's based upon two power chords....what's more, one's >right >above the other one...not really mind bending stuff. > >Sure, there are extremely complex songs that are popular (Stairway to >Heaven), but >these are rarities, and marks of true songwriting genius in one moment of >inspiration. No offense to CC, but he is no Jimmy Page. > >I just think you're off the mark on that comment. > >Gregg I must agree/back up this comment . . . it seems to me that SG specifically writes their songs so that the chords are simple . . . for example, all their wacky tunings, usually set up so that most all of the chords simply barred . . . try playing BIMH in normal tuning (just change the key from c to e) and then you'll have your complexity! Their songs are complex, they just make them easy! IMO, it doesn't matter how "complex" it is, as long as it sounds good . . . The Guitarist-2001 ------------------------------ From: ansel@morgan.com Subject: Re: SG Merchandising desires We've all seen the movie 'Singles', right? Remember the single-line, pencil drawing the fake foreign dude sketched at the beginning of the flick? I've always thought a minimalist sketch of the guy's faces would be great for dedicated fans. You'd either know who it was immediately, or be so drawn in by the personality that inevitably comes through in quality renderings of this nature (like the John Lennon one), that you couldn't resist at least wondering who they were. This type of art is not really your style Frank, but it is beautiful, simple and to-the-point. No band name would appear on the shirt or poster. Just the UOK or BMF symbols, if anything. -Vikki :) btw: I was serious about designing PEZ dispensers of the guys. It is the apex of novelty item merchandising! Ridiculous, unique and fun. (BEER flavored pez must be included with the Kim dispenser!) ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Well,I have been officially asked to come up with some designs for the new Soundgarden merch line..Frank Kozik ------------------------------ From: spierce@ties.k12.mn.us (Sandy Pierce) Subject: dreams i dreamt about soundgarden once again... this one i was actually at a concert and they were playing songs from a long time ago (like Tears to Forget and Hunted Down) and chris had long hair again (sigh...) and during one song matt was dancing around the stage but there was still drums playing so i looked back and jenny mccarthy was playing the drums and she was really good. i got to sit on the corner of the stage cuz everyone is bigger than me at concerts. then soundgarden left after only a couple songs and all the animals were being brought onto the stage. i had to leave cuz there were cows trying to go where i was sitting. it was kind of cool :) i highly recomend dreaming about soundgarden. amanda ------------------------------ From: Moonsta693@aol.com Subject: Re: Kim Thayil for President!!! Kim all the way baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! the original preety noose ------------------------------ From: "B. Kinser" Subject: Re: SG merchandise I wouldlove to find one of those BMF spark plug lighters but the chances of that are prettyslim. Otherwise I would like them to sell a vest made of flannel or the material that sweatshirts are made of and have it hooded. Type O Negative sold something like this at their shows. The only band stuff on it would be a logo or "Soundgarden" on the leaft breast pocket. BK ------------------------------ From: cynsir@village.ios.com Subject: Re: SG at the Ramones' farewell COOL!!! "Chinese Rocks", written by Dee Dee Ramone and the late Johnny Thunders is one of my all time fave tunes. Aah, how I miss the old days of "real" punk. Long live CBGB's - R.I.P. Max's Kansas City. The Ramones will ALWAYS be closest to my heart. And no, Matt playing guitar doesn't surprise me 'cause he is such a talented musician. Cyn seth wrote: > > A small excerpt from today's ATN: > > "When the band split after 50 minutes, Soundgarden's Chris Cornell had > to come on-stage to rouse the completely drained gathering to shout > for an encore, as the Seattle band's drummer Matt Cameron played > guitar on "Chinese Rocks," the Ramones' tribute to the joys/horrors of > heroin." > > I just can't picture Matt playing guitar... > > seth ------------------------------ From: Moonsta693@aol.com Subject: A drunkin' Chris on Stage I got something to say about this. 1. We all know that Chris is loosing the same voice that he had about 10 years ago. It's changing faster every day. Drinking has, really, nothing to do with it. He's getting older, and quoting what Billy Corgan said "Chris Cornell won't be a screamer 10 to 20 years from now." 2. Smoking does have some effect to the vocal cords, yes, you can tell a chain smoker just form the way they talk. Yes, i do smoke, but I am not a chain smoker, but I still have some idea on how much a toll it is taking on his voice. If he can do it like i can, lasting at least 5 weeks without lighting up, his voice probably wouldn't get much worse. 3. Chris never learned exactly how to sing. there is a right way and a wrong way, and right now he is doing it the wrong way. If he was doing it the right way, yes, he would not sound the way he does now. he probably wouldn't have the range he has. All Chris has to do is stop chain smoking, and put less strain on his vocal cords. it would be hard not only for him, but for us, but at least we know that he would not have to go through the pain of surgery. the original preety noose ------------------------------ From: BlackRose Subject: Tighter & Tighter: Is it really that great? I just bought DOTU a few days ago and it quickly became my favorite album, but I'm wondering why everyone makes such a big deal about Tighter & Tighter. It's a good song but it's not THAT great! Everyone's saying, "Oh, this is definately going to be the next single!! It's SOOOOO good!!" But it's not really all it's cracked up to be I think. Don't get me wrong, I like the song, but I don't get why everyone talks about it so much. Personally I think Ty Cobb should be the next single, but they probably couldn't play it on the radio cause of the lyrics oh well!! Itll probably be Blow Up the Outside World. LATER ------------------------------ From: Moonsta693@aol.com Subject: Re: SG Merchandising desires I'm glad this came along. Just the other day, A friend and I were making ideas up for shirts. Color: Black Front: a picture of earth with a mushroom cloud over it Back: Soundgarden logo and "Blow up the outside world" Color:White Front: a hand(palm up) with a smoking gun laid upon it Back: the soundgarden S with the words "I shot my love today, would you cry for me?" Color: white Front: Dead flowers with music notes coming out of the garden(the notes spell soundgarden) Back: the words "down on the upside" Color: Black Front: a box higly decorated with preety wraping paper, with the end of a noose hanging out of it. Back: Soundgarden logo and the words"Preety Noose" the orginial preety noose ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: ideas for merchandise well, i got my fan club package the other day with that cheesy plastic superunk. keychain. chris thought it would be much cooler if they had metal keychains with either the UOK logo or the BMF wheel. personally, i think the BMF wheel is such an amazing, timeless design -- a true icon -- that i'd like to see more stuff. i never got a BMF shirt and i would die for one. socks would be cool; the cap i got at lolla is GREAT. (seth, it sounds like exactly what you want -- the UOK "s" on the front) personally, i'd like something i could wear to work. a polo shirt or something with a small embroidered logo.. some high-quality enamel pins/badges. tank tops are nice for the summer. i prefer a nice selection of designs, some small and 'tasteful', some large and overpowering. i like the hat because it isn't obvious it's a soundgarden hat -- just has the UOK logo on the front. not obvious. i really liked the sg denim jacket because it fell into that category, but $86 for a denim jacket is j ust OUT OF THE QUESTION. i'm personally going to be blowing up the BMF wheel, transferring it to an embroidery grid and embroidering the back of my denim vest, or something... no "soundgarden", just the wheel. (i love that wheel. it's so basic and primal and iconographic... reminds me of the spirals at newgrange. that's pretty heavy). [/me knows she's not making any sense] posters. i'd love some posters that are NOT just stock photos of the band. something tasteful, artistic. the DoTU artwork was wonderful imo. i'd also say designs and logos are better than band photos. this isn't a cheesecake band. we don't need to see their faces on our chests/backs. [calm down shroom, you know what i mean ;-)] i guess that's what says soundgarden to me: out of the ordinary. not standard. not obvious. they obviously aren't trying to create brand equity in the faces of the band members, it would be nice to have one or two repetitive icons that would mean 'soundgarden', like the BMF wheel or the UOK "s". while i like the 'pretty noose' shirt i have, as well as my european superunk tour shirt and the 'spacey' shirt from the 94 tour, i kind of expect something above and beyond, again, the obvious. pearl jam have done that with *most* of their merchandise. frank, how about some limited-edition lithographs? (says the older sg fan with money and lots of empty wall space) - --caryn ------------------------------ From: HOLMEST@198.81.231.2.dstm.com Subject: Re[2]: SG Merchandising desires OK... I'l throw out some shirt ideas. If they are stupid it's because I'm thinking them up 30 minutes before a meeting. Start by thinking of the statement that the shirt is to portray (because most people, knowingly or not, wear these type of shirts to make statements) 1) Color: Off White Front: A modest font SOUNDGARDEN logo above a picture of the earth being grasped by a huge hand (if the hand could be portrayed as a corporate type, maybe showing a business suit cuff, it would be cool) Back: In modest font "Put your hands Away. Your gonna kill your mother." Statement being portrayed: 'I'm a rocker who has high natural values. I care about what is being done to the earth by irresponsible corporations/gov't.' 2) Color: Black Front: Again, a modest Soundgarden logo above a picture of a female hand and forearm raised out of a desert like floor. (Picture the hand in the sand in the BIMH video). The hand should be female in form and grasping the air. Back: "There she goes. Out in the sunshine. The sun is mine" Statement being portrayed: 'I've been hurt by someone and I'm still hurting.' Or, how bout a shirt with a SG logo and a picture of Theodore Kozinsky on the front and BUTOW on the back. You could spell it out or keep it 'BUTOW'. Ok, I gotta hit this meeting. Later, Mr.Bunchypants (AKA Taylor) "My pants? Well they are kind of...well...how would you say...BUNCHY?" >:-) ------------------------------ From: Stolen.Prayers@helix.xiii.com Subject: happy happy Joy Joy Oh happy day! This is a great day for Soundgarden fans... We're being asked for input on Soundgarden merchandise. What a blessing. I used to have tons of great ideas for Soundgarden shirts.. But I forgot em all =( Although the task of coming up with Soundgarden merchandise is in Frank Kozik's hands, so we oughta be getting some great SG stuff in our hands sometime =) I've been racking my brain, trying to come up with something to contribute, but i have zilch.. I did come up with an idea, but i dont think its very good... How about a shirt with a noose around the neck and then the rope part comes down the front of the shirt.. and then it says Soundgarden or whatever.. but they already have a pretty noose shirt.. sigh, oh well. Damnit, i had a bunch of cool ideas, too. I wish I knew wherethe hell they all went to.. But I cant wait to see the new SG shirts when they come out. chow unkind@cowland.com ------------------------------ From: iawake@ix.netcom.com (Chris (SGardnGrl)) Subject: Seattle get together? Well, can anyone tell me if this little Seattle swarray' is a definate at the end of Oct? Caryn, Dena, Shroom, ect...(oh no..Shroom??? Chris, Susan, "call the police!) Because if it is, can one of you email me regarding the details... Caryn, did you say something along the lines of.."come to lovely Seattle?" Well, now that I have your premission, I will come again! No... just kidding, but I am Seattle bound nevertheless. I would like to plan on going up there if a few of you are getting together around then. Caryn, are you still renting a van??? If so, will bring all of my kids! Ha! Did that get your attention? No......once again, kidding. I am going to Seattle for a BREAK from my kids! Sounds cold and heartless, I know...but I really need a vacation, otherwise I might turn into a raving lunatic! Don't you all feel sorry for me...??? I know that Tonerkins does! right Toner???? I must have been on heavy drugs when my husband and I talked about having kids???? See what sexual impulses can do to ya! Even Mr. Cornell hates them! Christy (SGardnGrl) ------------------------------ From: iawake@ix.netcom.com (Chris (SGardnGrl)) Subject: Parents and SG.... Parents!....they can really drive ya nuts with the SG put downs can't they! Some of you have posted about how your parents ask if SG are any good. Well, consider yourself lucky. My father comes to visit and he walks in my house and says..."I don't see what you like about this Chris Cornell fella...I think he is sort of homely!" "Oh, my god Dad! How did you even know what his name was???" "Well, his face is plastered all over your house...I couldn't help but know!" You know your obsessed with SG when even your parents know the names of the guys in the band! Christy (SGardnGrl) ------------------------------ From: jgrotelu@herbie.unl.edu (grote) Subject: career shiftin'... > Brian wrote: > Ok, kids, its official. The list is no too damn big! There are no not one > but two admitted attorneys on this list, (not counting Grote, who will > abandon yellow journalism for law school anyday). HA! sorry...give up my muckrakin' yellow journalism? how could i turn my back on a career that allows me to be wretched, thoughtless, conniving and manipulative while basking in the glory of a highly visible position??? why, if i were to become an attorney, i wouldn't be... hey, wait...you may be on to something here, brian... >;-> *kidding* > This is bad. While there > are a disproportionate number of lawyers in American society, there should > not be two attorneys COOL enough to actually have subscribed to this list. good point...WHERE ARE ALL THE MUCKRAKERS!?!?!? (i know ben t. is a journalism guy...and sean m...others?) > Therefore, the list has reached maximum density. It's all over. Everyone > out of the pool. Don't make me pull this car over. ah, the long winding car ride that is somms@mit.edu... ARE WE THERE YET?!?!? ARE WE THERE YET!?!?!? ARE WE THERE YET!?!?!? BRIIIAAAAN!!! CARYN'S PICKIN' ON ME AGAIN! AND SHROOM IS DOING FUNNY STUFF WITH HER HANDS!!! AND AARON KEEPS PUNCHING ME IN THE HEAD!!! MAKE 'EM STOP!!! I HAVE TO GO TO THE BATHROOM!!! AAAAAH!!! SETH KEEPS WHISPERING "don't post to the digest, dummy-head" IN MY EAR!!! ARE WE THERE YET?!?!? :) > Can you tell I've been working too hard lately .....? me too, my friend...me too... %-( - -- ######################################################################## # GROTE!!!!! "I don't remember half the time # # If I'm hiding or I'm lost # # jgrotelu@herbie.unl.edu But I'm on my way....." -Chris Cornell # ######################################################################## ------------------------------ From: "Joseph E \"Gene\" Candelaria" Subject: gonna go #sommsing if anyone wants a 90-second .wav sample of Karaoke, come join the party.... - -- ; > Joseph E. "Gene" Candelaria http://www.inland.net/~sunishun you're gonna shake your head gonna shake and spit gonna pick it up a bit with something new.... -- KARAOKE ------------------------------ From: jgrotelu@herbie.unl.edu (grote) Subject: GET YER SG STUFF TODAY!!! good thread idea, seth...it's about time you contributed something around here... *kidding!!! you da man.* just remember that you asked for the madness that is about to follow...you know i can't just make a quick response to a thread idea like this...it's friday afternoon and i don't feel like doing any work whatsoever, so let the rambling begin... GROTE'S PROPOSED SG MERCHANDISE/ENDORSED PRODUCTS-- - -- The Official Kim Thayil Artificial Beard - -- "Like Suicide" home kit...co-endorsed by Dr. Jack Kevorkian - -- t-shirts, in ladies' sizes, printed with a profile of chris on front and "WATCH OUT, SUSAN!!!" on the back - -- Ben's Best (an entire line of quality food products endorsed with this reassuring seal of approval) - -- "Big Dumb Sex" condoms - -- Kim Thayil's Wacky Handcuffs (fun for all ages! good for surprise trips to "the big house") - -- "Black Hole Sun" Waterproof Sunscreen - -- Chris Cornell's Throat Lozenges (with retsin...a must-have on long summer tours...OH CHRIST...i just realized the inevitable connection that our dear shroom will make between "chris cornell" and "throat lozenges..." eeew. :) ) - -- baseball caps embroidered with the universal yellow happy face, signed by ben - -- "Hands All Over" designer perfume - -- Kim Krunch (part of your nutritious breakfast, fortified with nine vitamins and minerals with names you can't spell, just like the words in kim's vocabulary!!!) - -- "Overfloater" Life Preservers and Aquatic Safety Equipment - -- Matt Cameron's Electronic Hit Stix (remember these??? the toy drum sticks that make noise when you pretend to drum in mid-air???) - -- "Drawing Flies" Insect Repellant - -- Duct Tape Wallets and Fashionable Accessories--by Chris (of course!!!!) - -- "Superunknown" Trivial Pursuit...for the sg fan who knows it all... - -- Brian and Grote's pulitzer prize-winning masterpieces "SO SUE ME: A GUIDE TO MAKING ENEMIES" and "HOW TO MAKE MILLIONS FROM HAPLESS HOOTCHIES." (ok, ok...not sg-related but a viable commodity, nonetheless... :) ) ok, that's enough for now, but I'LL BE BACK!!! i have not yet begun to explore the possibilities of this budding niche market... heh heh... later... - -- ######################################################################## # GROTE!!!!! "I don't remember half the time # # If I'm hiding or I'm lost # # jgrotelu@herbie.unl.edu But I'm on my way....." -Chris Cornell # ######################################################################## ------------------------------ From: "stella" Subject: Re: SG Merchandising desires (long) > At 09:51 AM 08/09/96 -0700, you wrote: [snip, snip] > Ty Cobb: > > Inspiration: That racist redneck bastard who played baseball. > Design: a baseball jersey similar to the authentic baseball jersey's. On > the front...buttons fully down the middle with Soundgarden along the chest > in a arc shape (similar to existing teams designs). On the back Ty Cobb's > jersey number with the name "Cobb" along the shoulder. This would be a really cool jersey! I haven't seen a lot of bands do that kind of stuff and I think this would be an original thing to see. I aslo liked the idea for the boot camp tee! - --- srogers@fix.net http://www.fix.net/~srogers http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/1534 "Not only is life a bitch, but its always having puppies" ------------------------------ Subject: Re: SG Merchandising desires From: tonerkin@usa.pipeline.com (Tonerkin) I would like a Soundgarden coffee cup! Yeah! I know that's kind of a weird thing but at my job I don't have a personal space to put up my things so a coffee mug would be nice to show off proudly!!!! I also agree with Caryn on the BMF logo being a fave image that I would like to see on some things. How about something with flowers(OK, dead ones if that goes with image better) entwined in the name Soundgarden. It would cool to have an image of Ty Cobb with a Soundgarden baseball shirt on. toni ------------------------------ From: Eliza J Polly Subject: RE: SG and parents Funny you shud bring that up dee! I saw my mom last week (yes she actually made the big trek from the Big Apple to nowhere land Ohio) and I had DOTU on (which she knew I was waiting for more than any family event ever!). Zero Chance came on, and my mom looked at me and said "Is that that Garden band or that Purple Jam band - sounds like that Purple Jam guy." I have never been in such shock in my life....i have new respect for my elders - ---------- From: dbradsh@unity.ncsu.edu Sent: Friday, August 09, 1996 11:31 AM To: somms@MIT.EDU Subject: RE: SG and parents i was babbling incessantly about SG at the dinner table one evening at my parents house... mom asks what they sound like... i reply, babble babble gush, gush they re amazing kinda stuff...but i doubt ya'll would like... dad replies, how do you know what we'd like...arent you stereotyping us...(geez flamed by my dad, no wonder i am so messed up :)..) have you even heard OF them dad? dad: arent they that seattle grundge band? well, hmmmmmm....its a start... Dee Dee Bradshaw-Autry http://www.angelfire.com/pages1/deedee/index.html ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: DotU Billboard chart positions well, a big drop for our boys this week: #23 last week we were #18 two weeks ago #17 *sigh* - --caryn ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: M2 info on M2 is available at... http://www.mtv.com/tubescan/m2/ anyone out there seen this yet? (and not the hour or so that was on MTV) - --caryn ------------------------------ From: ShRooMGrLz@aol.com Subject: Re: Seattle get together? >Well, can anyone tell me if this little Seattle swarray' is a definate >at the end of Oct? Caryn, Dena, Shroom, ect...(oh no..Shroom??? Chris, >Susan, "call the police!) Because if it is, can one of you email me >regarding the details... Heheheh... yes, the date is set!! No one in the Seattle are make any plans for the evening of Friday, October 25th (Bonnie, Caryn, Vikki, Aaron, Chris, Andrea... this means you!!). Dena and I would like to meet everyone in the bar at the OK Hotel. And in case MATT is reading this... umm, we promise not to get too rambunctious if you just HAPPEN to show up. ;-) Well... wait. That depends on how drunk we are. Anyway... I'm COMPLETELY excited to be going up there, and I hope I hope I hope that the guys will be back from Europe by then. Stalking plans are in the works. =) Ummm... just kidding!! Heheheh... or am I? Shroom Red Haired Devil-Hootchie, Proud member of the Kim Thayil Mercenary Squad, and Seattle-bound-obsessed-SOMMS-psycho (See you in October, Chris and Matt!!!) "Hey Shroom... let's get naked." ~ Chris Cornell (Words not necessarily said in that order...) <~~~ my disclaimer ------------------------------ From: ShRooMGrLz@aol.com Subject: Chris and surgery? >All Chris has to do is stop chain smoking, and put less strain on his >vocal cords. it would be hard not only for him, but for us, but at least >we know that he would not have to go through the pain of surgery. Good point, Moony. This is interesting. Do you guys think that Chris WOULD go through surgery, if it became necessary to continue his career as a vocalist? I mean, we all know he could just go on writing and playing music forever... but would he be satisified with that? Anyone? Anyone? Shroom Red Haired Devil-Hootchie, Proud member of the Kim Thayil Mercenary Squad, and Seattle-bound-obsessed-SOMMS-psycho (See you in October, Chris and Matt!!!) "Shall I put on my tinkerbell outfit, mistress Shroom?" ~ Chris Cornell (Words not necessarily said in that order...) <~~~ my disclaimer ------------------------------ From: Mayor McCheese Subject: Re: SG Merchandising desires Just so I think I'm the first . . . I'm working on an image that I think would make a great shirt . . Here is what I have so far: Back of shirt "Soundgarden" but the letters are like this: "S" = the ultra mega unknown logo. "O" = The Badmotorfinger wheel. "U" = The "U" in the band's name from the "Songs from the Superunknown"ep. "N" = Backwards "N" from "Superunknown" "D" = The "D" in the band's name on Down on the Upside's cover. "G" = The UltraMega Unknown logo again (looks like a S/G). "A" = The "A" from the band's name on "Badmotorfinger" "R" = The "R" from the word "Ultra" on the Ultramega OK cover. "D" = The triangle from the badmotorfinger wheel rotated 15 degrees or so with the word "Badmoterfinger" and the Sparkplug. "E" = The "E" from the bands's name on "Badmotorfinger" "N" = Make it from sparkplugs (I stole the one from the front of the wood box set). I am also trying to incorporate the "O" from "UltraMega Ok", but I like the badmoterfinger wheel better . . . On the front: On the web page, I think caryn gave seth a picture of the Soundgarden Magnusson Park Sculpture they took their name from. It's a really dark, awe-inspiring pic . . . It would look cool . . . Well, that's my idea, Mayor McCheese XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX *** Time to Play the McCheese "Name the Fav" Game *** Just Reply to me with the Song Title and Artist And I'll tell you your cool or something "Hubba Hubba Zoot Zoot Hubba Hubba Zot Zot A Nam Nam" *** If you know who sings this song, e-mail me now, you're cooler than anyone I've ever met *** ------------------------------ From: SkyVista96@aol.com Subject: SG ideas I was just drivin' home from my friends house and I came up with some ideas for SG merchandise. Everyone else may think these things suck, but I'm going to speak my mind anyway. My new goal is to turn my car into a Soundgardenmobile so that's where some of these ideas came from: 1. I want some kind of SG thing to hang from my rearview mirror. That way I'll have something else on there besides my parking lot pass. 2. A Soundgarden sunshade. The one I have now is one of those silver reflective ones. I'd like one with a picture of the band or something like that on the window side of the sunshade. 3. An SG license plate. In TX we have to have the plates on both front and back of the car, but people in other states could enjoy them. That's all for now. Please tell me if all of these just suck or if they have promise. Amber ------------------------------ From: Mayor McCheese Subject: My shirt idea . .. I have to thank seth for the pics I'm using in making this image . . . Thanks for everything, seth . . . And thanks whoever took that great pic of the Magnusson Park Statue posted on the page. Even if it never makes a shirt . . . it's a damn good pic. Mayor McCheese XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX *** Time to Play the McCheese "Name the Fav" Game *** Just Reply to me with the Song Title and Artist And I'll tell you your cool or something "Hubba Hubba Zoot Zoot Hubba Hubba Zot Zot A Nam Nam" *** If you know who sings this song, e-mail me now, you're cooler than anyone I've ever met *** ------------------------------ From: Daryn Gibson Subject: Dear Soundgarden Land I am a new member to the digest and I was wondering if someone could answer a question for me. I am thinging about starting to play the guitar and I was wondering what kind of guitar Chris Cornell plays. If someone could tell me it would be appreciated. Daryn ------------------------------ From: Eliza J Polly Subject: RE: M2 yeah, watched for a few hours when i was home in new york.. it's o.k. Matt Pinfield is cool. Reminded me a little (just a little) of the original days of MTV..... - --eliza >info on M2 is available at... >http://www.mtv.com/tubescan/m2/ >anyone out there seen this yet? (and not the hour or so that was on MTV) >--caryn ------------------------------ From: Lisa Moran Subject: merchandise Hey out there in Soundgarden Land. I am new to this list and I am ready to jump in and get my feet wet. First of all, has anyone else thought about magnets for the fridge? I find that to be a pretty neat idea, going to the fridge after a night out and passing Chris's face. I also dig puzzles, and I think that the band in a puzzle would entertain...well me! A SG clock would go nicely on the wall. Not quite enough letters to go all the way around, but let us improvise here with something in the 12 position, like the SG S or something. And what trip to the beach would be complete without a soundgarden beach towel? Right, in this tiny town of Moscow, Idaho good luck finding a beach. Hell, I would just lay on it in my apartment. I also liked the car shade and shower curtin idea. What a way to wake up in the morning! Down on the Up Side is very much my favorite album. If it is possible to wear out a CD, I just my do that. Burden in my hand is my personal favorite since the first time that I heard it. Then the video comes along and it just keeps getting better and better. But tighter and tighter and blow up the outside world are excellent. They should definately make it to single status. Let me know if my ideas seem lame or not. Just sounded fun to me. Later Days & Love! - --mora-- "Soundgarden is a tear from an eye...dreaming." --Chris Cornell ------------------------------ From: LikeSuicide Subject: articles...& d' allure thingie fellow bleeders, h'all.....i've noticed a lot of magazines have been featuring sg for the past couple of months....me being bleedin' starving and all...i can't afford to buy a copy...or is it because i don't really like buying stuff that features other 'artist' besides sg.....can anybody send me excerpts from different mags that you have read.....i've seen cc in rolling stone ( june).....spin(july)....etc...and caryn what's in the allure article .....thanx... ' inalok ako ng isang ahas pula't matamis na mansanas, pilit ko man hindi makaiwas... ...sa mata ng diyos... '----Wolfgang - rvn ------------------------------ From: erin@planet.eon.net Subject: sg merchandise I know people on the list want something deep or thought provoking for SG merchandise, but realistically, I think they want to sell to more than just people on the list. The general population may like SG enough to buy a shirt or something but not to be considered a fanatic. Anyway, here are my ideas. They're all for t-shirts.. 1) FRONT: A race track (like from the Indy or something) with a bunch of race cars on it. One of the cars has hit the wall and is now in flames. Soundgarden can be written on the wall like it was an ad for a corporate sponsor. BACK: words "Hot Rod Death Toll" in italic, racing type letters 2) FRONT: The earth with a HUGE pile of dynamite on it (on the arctic circle, I guess). The dynamite is tied in a ribbon with the word Soundgarden on it. The fuse trails away from the earth and down near the bottom corner of the shirt, you can see that it is lit. BACK: words Blow Up The Outside World with bits of exploded things flying around the letters, the i is actually a stick of dynamite with the fuse lit 3) FRONT: An old, gnarled tree with a guy hanging from a noose on one of its branches. The guy is still alive, and gripping the rope to keep it from strangling him. The name Soundgarden is carved into the tree. BACK: words 'I don't like what you got me hanging from' forming a noose 4) FRONT: Two bulls butting heads while a matador stands by. The matador is holding a red cape with the word Soundgarden on it. BACK: words 'Hard headed fuck you all' 5) FRONT: An apple with a bite taken out of it. There's an oval grocery store-like sticker stuck to the apple. The word Soundgarden is written along the top curve of the oval and the Soundgarden S is underneath the word (on the sticker). Those are all I have right now. Sorry if they're really pathetic, but I'd wear them... I'm not known for my really common tastes though.. Oh well. Erin. ------------------------------ From: "Steven Russell Jr." Subject: Re: SG Merchandising desires (long) At 09:51 AM 08/09/96 -0700, you wrote: so,I would like to poll you as to your ideas for designs...graphic >drawings,weird photographic stuff...what says Soundgarden to you? Note: Hey Kids...drugs kill. Down on the Upside Designs: Pretty Noose: Inspiration: The old tall tale "The Headless Horseman". Design: A motorcycle riding into moonlight along a dirt road. It's approaching one of those old one lane New England bridges made of wood with a hangman's noose attached to the top. The headless horseman with the pumpkin head is lurking in the distance. Rhinosaur: Inspiration: something similar to the Kickstand shirt of last tour. Design: Front: a stampeding herd of rhino's Back: "Only Deadly in a Swarm" Dusty: Inspiration: a carefree southerner walking barefoot down a dirt road whistling... Design: A rather dufuss-y looking character walking down a road. Ty Cobb: Inspiration: That racist redneck bastard who played baseball. Design: a baseball jersey similar to the authentic baseball jersey's. On the front...buttons fully down the middle with Soundgarden along the chest in a arc shape (similar to existing teams designs). On the back Ty Cobb's jersey number with the name "Cobb" along the shoulder. Burden in My Hand: Inspiration: "Hey Joe...you shot your lady down..." Design: a female hand holding a smoking gun. Note: if you're wondering why I picked a female hand; refer to Spinal Tap's artwork debate about _Smell the Glove_. Never the Machine Forever: no design...I just think the song is about time and the image would be a clock, either digital or analog. No Attention: Inspiration: Chautauqua County Design: An evil looking kid with a mohawk, dressed in an Ultramega OK t-shirt...carrying a hatchet. Walking into the woods (trees: pines). Overfloater: Inspiration: the scene of Val Kilmer (J. Morrison) in the bathtub at the end of the _Doors_. Design: a side shot of a bathtub with just someone's head (in a very relaxed facial shot), arms and feet visible. Smoke surrounds the entire image. Back: "Nothings gonna pinch this nerve of mine". Bootcamp: Inspiration: Be all that you can be...Also; the indian crying in those 70's PSA's for a cleaner america. Design: A saluting soldier in a propoganda motif. A tear is falling down the soldiers face across his cheek. Back: "I must obey the rules" Tigher and Tighter: a shot of a spacecraft leaving Earth's orbit. Planets and a prominent picture of the sun is also involved in this design. Blow Up the Outside World: Note: I have a vision for the video of this song. My 'merchandise' idea would be an offshoot of some visual involved in it. I'm thinking the keyhole would be the proper symbolic item. Images: (needs work) A greyish grainy shot of guy sitting at a table staring at a door. He's scruffed up and sweating. There's a table in front of him and on it...is a whiskey bottle and a handgun. The camera pans into the direction he's staring at. It becomes apparent he's staring at a keyhole. The camera slowly gets closer and closer to the keyhole until you can see through the hole to the outside. From a distance the hole glows orange. While all this is going on... the first verse of the song is playing "Nothing to seems to kill me no matter how hard I try Nothing is closing my eyes Nothing can beat me down for your pain or delight And nothing seems to break me No matter how hard I fall nothing can break me at all Not one for giving up though not invincible I know" As the chorus kicks in...the camera slams into the keyhole! Visions of Screaming People, Fires, and general mayhem appears on the walls of the keyhole. Everything that is bothering the guy appears on the sides of the keyhole. The end of the keyhole is black while the torturous demons of this guy appear before him. Maybe a shot of just his eyes viewing this would suffice. As the verse Butow is sung....the guy does a silent scream. "I've givin everything I need I'd give you everything I own I'd give in if it could at least be ours alone I've given everything I could To blow it to hell and gone Burrow down in and Blow up the Outside World" Second verse: A woman is sitting at a table in an old rundown house. There's a journal on the table with the word Diary written on it. There is also a letter half in an envelope beside the journal. She is holding a pen and nervously playing with it she's also just staring hard at that keyhole. The camera does the same thing as above and pans into the keyhole. The second verse is playing: "Someone tried to tell me something Don't let the world bring you down Nothing can do me in before I do myself So save it for your own and the ones you can help" Chorus starts up again...this time visions of *her* demon's appear on the walls. He's screaming at her...visions of her parents...a small child screaming etc. "I've givin everything I need I'd give you everything I own I'd give in if it could at least be ours alone I've given everything I could To blow it to hell and gone Burrow down in and Blow up the Outside World" during the music only break...you can see both of them walking towards each other in a driving rain storm. The meet each other and start screaming at each other, they then slowly start talking to each other all the while mouthing the lyrics below...finally as CC screams Butow...they embrace in a kiss and the camera pans around them....all the while the fires and catastophies surround them. "Want to make it understood Wanting though I never would Trying though I know it's wrong Blowing it to hell and gone Wishing though I never could Blow up the outside world" The end of my 'vision' is the two of them walking hand in hand through the fire into the black. With maybe images of the two of them, um *taking care of unfinished business*. well...it was either this idea or beavis and butthead setting off dynamite inside frogs butts! :-) Steve ------------------------------ From: GeekGirl@aol.com Subject: SG covers >>anyway mayor Mc. Cheese's wish covers gave me the idea to post a few of my >>own >>Dire Straights, Money For Nothing: >>now I know at first glance you might think this a strange song for them to >>cover but if they slowed it down a little, gave it a new beat and a steady >>bass line, you would have >>a realy kewl song Yes I can hear it now.. Chris singing " I *DONT* want my MTV!!!" Sorry..I could'nt help it.. this is not a flame.. K! Dena :)~ ------------------------------ From: Stolen.Prayers@helix.xiii.com Subject: disgusted... ..by karaoke and by launch... not by soundgarden, i mean, i really dig the song karaoke.. what i could hear of it, that is.. the first time i put the goddam thing in the shitting cd rom the fucking thing starts skipping on karaoke.. the one reason why i shelled out ten bucks. i'm going to take it back to waldenbooks tomorrow and they better exchange it or i'm going to go crazy and wipe out the entire bookstore.. and if they don't exchange it, i'm going to come home and play it on my mom's cd player (the one cd player in the world that will play cds without skipping) and make a million copies of it so i don't have to worry about the damn cd but it still pisses me off. i mean, the way it's packaged.. in the cardboard with the playing side of the cd exposed to dust and scratches and god knows what else.. it just really pisses me off.. it's a neat concept, the magazine, but the way the cd was packaged and that karaoke skipped the first time i played it is really pissing me off. but what i could hear of the song, i liked.. i think it will grow on me... i can listen to it and think about all the trendy assholes i've encountered in my lifetime.. and btw, when i said that it wouldn't play in my cd rom but it'll play in my mom's stereo, it probly makes it sound like the cd rom is the culprit.. but i also tried it in my discman and it skipped in there.. so that means it's going to skip in every cd player i put it in.. but my mom's got a really nice one, it played my subpop 200 cd after i scratched the shit out of it.. and the one track that skipped was sub pop rock city.. dont you just know it.. but anyway.. i'm just really pissed.. and i like the shirt ideas that have been floating around the list.. i dunno.. makes me wish i could remember all those neat ideas for soundgarden shirts i had before.. sigh.. oh well.. but im just really pissed off by this whole launch thign and i really needed to vent.. sorry.. and i cant wait for the bimh single.. im dying to hear bleed together, i mean its got a great title, so it's gotta be a great song =) well i'll shut up now. rambling.. chow unkind@cowland.com ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 2 Issue 210] ****************************************